Well technically yeah, but APPP (the guys who made the part 1 movie and part 3 ova) did plan to make a part 2 animation, with some scenes being drawn out, which included Speedwagon, so IG the SWF could in theory still exist, but that would change nothing, so I excluded him like in the original movie, so basically it is what if Speedwagon didn't exist kinda.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 The worst timeline. Also the "part 2 movie storyboards" were actually part of a recap thing that was part of the OVA DVDs to help those not previously familiar with the series catch up on the context behind DIO and the Joestars. EDIT: Also yeah, their screwed. No Speedwagon Foundation and no Lisa Lisa means that Joseph might not even be born, and assuming he is born to a different mother, he and Caesar would stand absolutely no chance against the pillarmen. So basically, the Pillarmen win.
@@theultimatememelord5494 Unless George II finds a wife with hamon experience, then yeah part 2 is basically screwed, but also if the new wife is experienced hamon she could also have a different view on stuff from Lisa Lisa, so maybe she agrees with Caesar and they go to fight Wamuu together instead if Joseph's new mom who has hamon can save the day.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573Nope, they're still fucked. Here's how it would go in my opinion: With no Speedwagon foundation or Straizo, the Nazis are the ones who first find Santana, and when he awakens, he slaughters everyone with no Joseph to stop him. He then goes looking for the other 3 Pillarmen. Speaking of which, when those 4 wake up, they would be searching for the Red stone of Aja, and assuming it's at the hamon temple in tibet in this timeline, the Pillarmen eventually find it and slaughter all of the hamon users at the temple. After this, Kars (and maybe Esidisi and Wammu) would become ultimate lifeforms. Definitely not Santana, since the others view him as nothing but a guard dog. Afterwards, the Pillarmen began a campaign of wiping out humanity. This would likely end up resulting in the allies in this timeline forming not to fight the Axis powers, but to fight the Pillarmen. Unfortunately they stand no chance against 3 ultimate lifeforms and 1 vampiric pillarman, and they don't have time to research nukes. The Pillarmen eventually wipe out every human on Earth, with the Joestars being completely none the wiser until it was already too late due to a lack of Speedwagon to kick things off for them. TLDR; No Speedwagon = the Pillarmen winning. Seems reasonable.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573I guess my original response to this comment got deleted cause I mentioned the *National Socialists.* But did you read it before it got deleted?
I actually have a what if suggestion. Since I just finished watching Part 3's judgement arc on Netflix, my suggestion is: What if Hol Horse actually killed Avdol?
The most amazing thing of the phantom blood film, is that they apprently want to make a Battle Tendency movie, like the video said, there whould be no speedwagon, straizo or lisa lisa, so the part 2 movie chould be WORSE than the part 1 movie
Yeah I find the idea of a part without Lisa Lisa, Speedwagon, and Straitzo interesting, hence why I did the video (plus it also being requested.) but the Battle Tendency thing was meant to be a clip show to sum up 2, it was never meant to be a movie, which is what one of my commenters told me.
@@valtube6728 I mean it's normally common with movie sequels. Very rarely the sequel surpasses the OG on the big screen. But minus from good animation, the JoJo films feel destined to flop if we excluded Speedwagon, Lisa Lisa, and Straitzo IMO. But then again I know a fan made up an OC wife for George II with hamon so maybe instead she can play an important role, and he said that she would instead agree with Caesar's plan which would save Caesar from getting crushed by the giant rock from Wamuu most likely. But if interested I can explore that timeline IG, where George II has a new wife that is different from Lisa Lisa but has hamon?
Yeah but it's lost media because APPP, the guys who made this, and the Stardust Crusaders OVA from the 90's. But around the time the film was being published in theaters, they got sued because in the OVA we had a scene of Dio was reading the Quran, which got a lot of Muslims angry and it basically killed APPP, and that's why they never published the movie on DVD or VHS or any other streaming services.
Well TBF, the fact it's a Kakyoin surviving timeline makes me a little happier about this timeline. BTW, if your interested, I can tell you who lives and dies?
@@IceEpikFace IMO. Part 1: Speedwagon, Straitzo, Lisa Lisa, Dire, and Poco don't exist anymore, Will dies against Dio in Dire's place, and Jonathan would still die but Erina is the only one to escape the boat and Lisa Lisa doesn't exist (or worst case scenario, she dies on the boat.) but that's it. Part 1.5: Excluding Speedwagon and Straitzo, everything else goes the same, but Joseph has a different mother instead. Part 2: Joseph know about the Pillar Men until much later, Caesar would likely be the one who kills Santana instead but Stroheim would actually die in this fight, I think Caesar and Joseph can eventually meet somehow, but I don't think 2 would change much, but Caesar would have to train Joseph more, but he would still run in to fight Wamuu and die IMO (since Joseph was against the idea in the canon.) but Joseph can still kill Wamuu, and realistically Kars would likely win unless Joseph outsmarts Kars and is an extra step ahead, which I doubt it TBH, but we'll say he somehow defeats Kars in Lisa Lisa's spot. Part 3: So I don't think much would change until the second half, where Iggy is never found so he's out of the story, Kakyoin would be out for the rest of the part as the only reason he was able to get his injury treated was because of the Speedwagon Foundation, and since Speedwagon doesn't exist, no SWF, meaning Kakyoin is gone. Avdol has his canon death, but when Polnareff was almost killed by Vanilla Ice at the end he would actually die here since no Iggy meaning Polnareff does die to Ice, but Joseph and Jotaro can defeat Dio together instead. And for the rest of SDC, Joseph would be the one to die revealing The World's power instead of Kakyoin (since he would be out longer because no SWF.) but I think Jotaro should still win IMO, but Joseph isn't brought back because he has a massive hole in his stomach which Jotaro wouldn't be able to bring him back with the heart thing. So basically Jotaro lives, Kakyoin also lives but because he would be injured by N'doul, and Avdol, Polnareff, and Joseph are killed by Vanilla Ice and Dio. Part 4: So I assume Jotaro can find out Josuke's existence in a different way instead, but he does, and IMO, I think the part mostly goes the same but instead Akira wouldn't be caught untill much later, and maybe he could work together with Kira and his father instead, which would would make Kira an even bigger threat since Akira would be able to give him intel on people who are looking into his identity. But IMO, I think instead Akira and Kira can be defeated by Josuke and Okuyasu together instead, which I would have Okuyasu kill Akira, and after that still take Kira's bomb blast, but instead Josuke would actually kill Kira in this timeline, so Josuke and Okuyasu both actually get to kill the people they hated the most (which I still kinda wish they did, or at least have Akira join the Duwang gang TBH.) but I think we may have an additional Morioh character die TBH (IMO, I'd have Hazumada or Yuya or (if you wanna get risky) Rohan or Okuyasu die TBH, but IMO Hazumada can die to Akira probably.) Part 5: So the part's start off would be hard since the SWF were what found out about Giorno, but IMO, Jotaro maybe finds him because of fate and stuff, but IMO, Koichi still goes, and for the final arc, I would replace Polnareff for Kakyoin instead, since Kakyoin would still be alive and would've finally recovered from the cuts on his eyes, but instead I think Kakyoin would've not lost any limbs since he was a lot more careful then Polnareff was, but I do think Diavolo might hurt Kakyoin though, and I believe part 5 would probably be Kakyoin in the Coliseum instead, and he can get Hierophant Green Requiem and instead it can be HGR (Hierophant Green Requiem for short.) to do the body swap instead, and IMO, Abbacchio, Narancia, and Bruno would still die in the final fight to Diavolo, but Giorno, Mista, and Trish are still alive, and the only real change is that we would be getting Kakyoin turtle memes instead of Polnareff turtle memes (which I'm 100% fine with as long as my favorite cherry gamer is safe TBH.) but that's it for 5 IMO. Part 6: So I still think the part starts off the same, but instead I think that Kakyoin would still have Tenmei, and instead we would not only get the part 4 but the part 5 cast to help, which I would have Giorno stay with Jotaro and keep him alive with his life giving while also creating the bird to deliver the Star Platinum disc back to instead. But for arc changes, I think it would be similar to the what if's with Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, Rohan, and Tenmei in Stone Ocean, but maybe Mista can be here which would be fun to see how he interacts with the SO team, but IMO, Mista would probably die in the part IMO, but I think the universe reset could be pervented since we have Jotaro, the OG Stone Ocean crew, and the survivors of part's 4 and 5 here, and I think the universe reset is pervented here if that happens. But if we remove Tenmei and the others, then Jolyne gets stuck without being able to give Jotaro back Star Platinum's disc, and Pucci would likely reset the universe at the ending. So thoughts, and any changes to the parts?
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Part 1: Agreed Part 1.5: Agreed Part 2: Agreed, however I think Messina, Loggins, and Suzi Q can be here because it’s never explained how they met Lisa Lisa. Part 2.5: Not apart of your response, but I honestly disagree with Holly existing without Suzi Q, I honestly think you need both Joseph and Suzi Q to create Holly because Holly represents both of them and it’s shown a lot, so if Joseph still isn’t gonna meet Suzi Q, I doubt Holly would exist honestly. Part 3: Agreed, disagree with Joseph getting the donut because his whole body is covered in Hermit Purple, plus DIO did try to attack Joseph but he resisted because it would harm DIO’s vampiric body. So other words if DIO tries to donut Joseph, DIO is gonna die or likely get harmed but Joseph would not be harmed. Part 4: Agreed Part 5: Agreed Part 6: Agreed
@@IceEpikFace Ok, so IG my response for the Joseph is that the only reason he did actually did cover his body with Hermit Purple was because he knew Dio was capable of punching someone through the stomach, as he seen it happen to Kakyoin. So basically, without Kakyoin getting donut (since his eye injury did play a big role in him missing out in this timeline) then Joseph would not know about it, unless he finds Dio donut a bystander instead, and if that's the case, then Joseph would still be alive, but assuming he was, then I think DIU goes the same except that it wouldn't be the Speedwagon Foundation and instead Joseph hires his own boat driver to take him to Morioh instead, and that basically means Akira gets defeated when he originally would, and maybe in this timeline Joseph can be the one who uses Hermit Purple to tell Jotaro about Giorno instead (like how he found out about Josuke and Angelo.) so instead that can happen here with GW/VA mostly being the same but instead Kakyoin would fulfill the role of the guy to deliver the arrow to Team Bucciarati and become the one stuck inside of Coco Jumbo instead of Polnareff (which I think Kakyoin would fit that role a little better TBH since he's always took threats more serious then Polnareff did.) and by Stone Ocean, I think instead the role of keeping Jotaro alive can go to Giorno, with Giorno using his life giving to keep Jotaro's body in perfect condition, while also creating the bird that takes the stand disc back to Jotaro, and instead it would mean Jolyne calls him instead. But I think that happens, and I can see the part 5 crew actually being here to fight Pucci, and I think it be cool to maybe have a call back to Dio walking on the mansion walls by having Giorno walk on the ground after Pucci used C-Moon to manipulate gravity. But IMO, Passione can replace the Speedwagon Foundation when it comes to part 6 IMO so that Jotaro can still come back at the end.
The phantom Blood Movie looked Almost Good and Great and it's Shame it didn't Release and Jonathan and zeppeli designs in the movie are much better than both their. manga and Anime Designs I kinda Hoped Jonathan in the anime would Have looked like the one in the Cancelled OVA ( makes him look like Kenishro and Guts ) as well but The only things I don't like about it is that I heard that They cut off Speedwagon ( The G.O.A.T ) and baby Lisa Lisa unfortunately
They also removed Dire, Straitzo, Poco, and his sister, which is why I made the video, because Speedwagon, Lisa Lisa, and Straitzo played a huge role in Battle Tendency, and onwards.
Also here is the timeline if your interested in knowing what happens IMO. Part 1: Speedwagon, Straitzo, Lisa Lisa, Dire, and Poco don't exist anymore, Will dies against Dio in Dire's place, and Jonathan would still die but Erina is the only one to escape the boat and Lisa Lisa doesn't exist (or worst case scenario, she dies on the boat.) but that's it. Part 1.5: Excluding Speedwagon and Straitzo, everything else goes the same, but Joseph has a different mother instead. Part 2: Joseph know about the Pillar Men until much later, Caesar would likely be the one who kills Santana instead but Stroheim would actually die in this fight, I think Caesar and Joseph can eventually meet somehow, but I don't think 2 would change much, but Caesar would have to train Joseph more, but he would still run in to fight Wamuu and die IMO (since Joseph was against the idea in the canon.) but Joseph can still kill Wamuu, and realistically Kars would likely win unless Joseph outsmarts Kars and is an extra step ahead, which I doubt it TBH, but we'll say he somehow defeats Kars in Lisa Lisa's spot. Part 3: So I don't think much would change until the second half, where Iggy is never found so he's out of the story, Kakyoin would be out for the rest of the part as the only reason he was able to get his injury treated was because of the Speedwagon Foundation, and since Speedwagon doesn't exist, no SWF, meaning Kakyoin is gone. Avdol has his canon death, but when Polnareff was almost killed by Vanilla Ice at the end he would actually die here since no Iggy meaning Polnareff does die to Ice, but Joseph and Jotaro can defeat Dio together instead. And for the rest of SDC, Joseph would be the one to die revealing The World's power instead of Kakyoin (since he would be out longer because no SWF.) but I think Jotaro should still win IMO, but Joseph isn't brought back because he has a massive hole in his stomach which Jotaro wouldn't be able to bring him back with the heart thing. So basically Jotaro lives, Kakyoin also lives but because he would be injured by N'doul, and Avdol, Polnareff, and Joseph are killed by Vanilla Ice and Dio. Part 4: So I assume Jotaro can find out Josuke's existence in a different way instead, but he does, and IMO, I think the part mostly goes the same but instead Akira wouldn't be caught untill much later, and maybe he could work together with Kira and his father instead, which would would make Kira an even bigger threat since Akira would be able to give him intel on people who are looking into his identity. But IMO, I think instead Akira and Kira can be defeated by Josuke and Okuyasu together instead, which I would have Okuyasu kill Akira, and after that still take Kira's bomb blast, but instead Josuke would actually kill Kira in this timeline, so Josuke and Okuyasu both actually get to kill the people they hated the most (which I still kinda wish they did, or at least have Akira join the Duwang gang TBH.) but I think we may have an additional Morioh character die TBH (IMO, I'd have Hazumada or Yuya or (if you wanna get risky) Rohan or Okuyasu die TBH, but IMO Hazumada can die to Akira probably.) Part 5: So the part's start off would be hard since the SWF were what found out about Giorno, but IMO, Jotaro maybe finds him because of fate and stuff, but IMO, Koichi still goes, and for the final arc, I would replace Polnareff for Kakyoin instead, since Kakyoin would still be alive and would've finally recovered from the cuts on his eyes, but instead I think Kakyoin would've not lost any limbs since he was a lot more careful then Polnareff was, but I do think Diavolo might hurt Kakyoin though, and I believe part 5 would probably be Kakyoin in the Coliseum instead, and he can get Hierophant Green Requiem and instead it can be HGR (Hierophant Green Requiem for short.) to do the body swap instead, and IMO, Abbacchio, Narancia, and Bruno would still die in the final fight to Diavolo, but Giorno, Mista, and Trish are still alive, and the only real change is that we would be getting Kakyoin turtle memes instead of Polnareff turtle memes (which I'm 100% fine with as long as my favorite cherry gamer is safe TBH.) but that's it for 5 IMO. Part 6: So I still think the part starts off the same, but instead I think that Kakyoin would still have Tenmei, and instead we would not only get the part 4 but the part 5 cast to help, which I would have Giorno stay with Jotaro and keep him alive with his life giving while also creating the bird to deliver the Star Platinum disc back to instead. But for arc changes, I think it would be similar to the what if's with Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, Rohan, and Tenmei in Stone Ocean, but maybe Mista can be here which would be fun to see how he interacts with the SO team, but IMO, Mista would probably die in the part IMO, but I think the universe reset could be pervented since we have Jotaro, the OG Stone Ocean crew, and the survivors of part's 4 and 5 here, and I think the universe reset is pervented here if that happens. But if we remove Tenmei and the others, then Jolyne gets stuck without being able to give Jotaro back Star Platinum's disc, and Pucci would likely reset the universe at the ending. So thoughts, and any changes to the parts?
@@VampireStraizo If I remember correctly, the Speedwagon Foundation was what helped them with the UV lights, so since we are removing Speedwagon, this logically means the Speedwagon Foundation has to go, and that means Stroheim and the Nazi's likely don't have UV lights.
No Speedwagon? No dignity.
Also, I guess this video could technically be considered a "Fan-Sequel" to the Phantom Blood movie.
Well technically yeah, but APPP (the guys who made the part 1 movie and part 3 ova) did plan to make a part 2 animation, with some scenes being drawn out, which included Speedwagon, so IG the SWF could in theory still exist, but that would change nothing, so I excluded him like in the original movie, so basically it is what if Speedwagon didn't exist kinda.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 The worst timeline. Also the "part 2 movie storyboards" were actually part of a recap thing that was part of the OVA DVDs to help those not previously familiar with the series catch up on the context behind DIO and the Joestars.
EDIT: Also yeah, their screwed. No Speedwagon Foundation and no Lisa Lisa means that Joseph might not even be born, and assuming he is born to a different mother, he and Caesar would stand absolutely no chance against the pillarmen. So basically, the Pillarmen win.
@@theultimatememelord5494 Unless George II finds a wife with hamon experience, then yeah part 2 is basically screwed, but also if the new wife is experienced hamon she could also have a different view on stuff from Lisa Lisa, so maybe she agrees with Caesar and they go to fight Wamuu together instead if Joseph's new mom who has hamon can save the day.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573Nope, they're still fucked. Here's how it would go in my opinion: With no Speedwagon foundation or Straizo, the Nazis are the ones who first find Santana, and when he awakens, he slaughters everyone with no Joseph to stop him. He then goes looking for the other 3 Pillarmen.
Speaking of which, when those 4 wake up, they would be searching for the Red stone of Aja, and assuming it's at the hamon temple in tibet in this timeline, the Pillarmen eventually find it and slaughter all of the hamon users at the temple.
After this, Kars (and maybe Esidisi and Wammu) would become ultimate lifeforms. Definitely not Santana, since the others view him as nothing but a guard dog. Afterwards, the Pillarmen began a campaign of wiping out humanity.
This would likely end up resulting in the allies in this timeline forming not to fight the Axis powers, but to fight the Pillarmen. Unfortunately they stand no chance against 3 ultimate lifeforms and 1 vampiric pillarman, and they don't have time to research nukes.
The Pillarmen eventually wipe out every human on Earth, with the Joestars being completely none the wiser until it was already too late due to a lack of Speedwagon to kick things off for them.
TLDR; No Speedwagon = the Pillarmen winning. Seems reasonable.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573I guess my original response to this comment got deleted cause I mentioned the *National Socialists.* But did you read it before it got deleted?
I actually have a what if suggestion. Since I just finished watching Part 3's judgement arc on Netflix, my suggestion is: What if Hol Horse actually killed Avdol?
I might do it if I do shorts (since I plan to do short what if's.) but I can't see this being a full length video, but a short can work though.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Cool.
The most amazing thing of the phantom blood film, is that they apprently want to make a Battle Tendency movie, like the video said, there whould be no speedwagon, straizo or lisa lisa, so the part 2 movie chould be WORSE than the part 1 movie
Yeah I find the idea of a part without Lisa Lisa, Speedwagon, and Straitzo interesting, hence why I did the video (plus it also being requested.) but the Battle Tendency thing was meant to be a clip show to sum up 2, it was never meant to be a movie, which is what one of my commenters told me.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 i still thinks than a second movie that’s is worst than the first one is still hilarious
@@valtube6728 I mean it's normally common with movie sequels. Very rarely the sequel surpasses the OG on the big screen. But minus from good animation, the JoJo films feel destined to flop if we excluded Speedwagon, Lisa Lisa, and Straitzo IMO. But then again I know a fan made up an OC wife for George II with hamon so maybe instead she can play an important role, and he said that she would instead agree with Caesar's plan which would save Caesar from getting crushed by the giant rock from Wamuu most likely. But if interested I can explore that timeline IG, where George II has a new wife that is different from Lisa Lisa but has hamon?
I didn't even know phantom blood had a movie. I wished i could of watched it.
Yeah but it's lost media because APPP, the guys who made this, and the Stardust Crusaders OVA from the 90's. But around the time the film was being published in theaters, they got sued because in the OVA we had a scene of Dio was reading the Quran, which got a lot of Muslims angry and it basically killed APPP, and that's why they never published the movie on DVD or VHS or any other streaming services.
Oh....I didn't know that.....
Interesting timeline ngl
Well TBF, the fact it's a Kakyoin surviving timeline makes me a little happier about this timeline. BTW, if your interested, I can tell you who lives and dies?
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Sure
@@IceEpikFace IMO.
Part 1: Speedwagon, Straitzo, Lisa Lisa, Dire, and Poco don't exist anymore, Will dies against Dio in Dire's place, and Jonathan would still die but Erina is the only one to escape the boat and Lisa Lisa doesn't exist (or worst case scenario, she dies on the boat.) but that's it.
Part 1.5: Excluding Speedwagon and Straitzo, everything else goes the same, but Joseph has a different mother instead.
Part 2: Joseph know about the Pillar Men until much later, Caesar would likely be the one who kills Santana instead but Stroheim would actually die in this fight, I think Caesar and Joseph can eventually meet somehow, but I don't think 2 would change much, but Caesar would have to train Joseph more, but he would still run in to fight Wamuu and die IMO (since Joseph was against the idea in the canon.) but Joseph can still kill Wamuu, and realistically Kars would likely win unless Joseph outsmarts Kars and is an extra step ahead, which I doubt it TBH, but we'll say he somehow defeats Kars in Lisa Lisa's spot.
Part 3: So I don't think much would change until the second half, where Iggy is never found so he's out of the story, Kakyoin would be out for the rest of the part as the only reason he was able to get his injury treated was because of the Speedwagon Foundation, and since Speedwagon doesn't exist, no SWF, meaning Kakyoin is gone. Avdol has his canon death, but when Polnareff was almost killed by Vanilla Ice at the end he would actually die here since no Iggy meaning Polnareff does die to Ice, but Joseph and Jotaro can defeat Dio together instead. And for the rest of SDC, Joseph would be the one to die revealing The World's power instead of Kakyoin (since he would be out longer because no SWF.) but I think Jotaro should still win IMO, but Joseph isn't brought back because he has a massive hole in his stomach which Jotaro wouldn't be able to bring him back with the heart thing. So basically Jotaro lives, Kakyoin also lives but because he would be injured by N'doul, and Avdol, Polnareff, and Joseph are killed by Vanilla Ice and Dio.
Part 4: So I assume Jotaro can find out Josuke's existence in a different way instead, but he does, and IMO, I think the part mostly goes the same but instead Akira wouldn't be caught untill much later, and maybe he could work together with Kira and his father instead, which would would make Kira an even bigger threat since Akira would be able to give him intel on people who are looking into his identity. But IMO, I think instead Akira and Kira can be defeated by Josuke and Okuyasu together instead, which I would have Okuyasu kill Akira, and after that still take Kira's bomb blast, but instead Josuke would actually kill Kira in this timeline, so Josuke and Okuyasu both actually get to kill the people they hated the most (which I still kinda wish they did, or at least have Akira join the Duwang gang TBH.) but I think we may have an additional Morioh character die TBH (IMO, I'd have Hazumada or Yuya or (if you wanna get risky) Rohan or Okuyasu die TBH, but IMO Hazumada can die to Akira probably.)
Part 5: So the part's start off would be hard since the SWF were what found out about Giorno, but IMO, Jotaro maybe finds him because of fate and stuff, but IMO, Koichi still goes, and for the final arc, I would replace Polnareff for Kakyoin instead, since Kakyoin would still be alive and would've finally recovered from the cuts on his eyes, but instead I think Kakyoin would've not lost any limbs since he was a lot more careful then Polnareff was, but I do think Diavolo might hurt Kakyoin though, and I believe part 5 would probably be Kakyoin in the Coliseum instead, and he can get Hierophant Green Requiem and instead it can be HGR (Hierophant Green Requiem for short.) to do the body swap instead, and IMO, Abbacchio, Narancia, and Bruno would still die in the final fight to Diavolo, but Giorno, Mista, and Trish are still alive, and the only real change is that we would be getting Kakyoin turtle memes instead of Polnareff turtle memes (which I'm 100% fine with as long as my favorite cherry gamer is safe TBH.) but that's it for 5 IMO.
Part 6: So I still think the part starts off the same, but instead I think that Kakyoin would still have Tenmei, and instead we would not only get the part 4 but the part 5 cast to help, which I would have Giorno stay with Jotaro and keep him alive with his life giving while also creating the bird to deliver the Star Platinum disc back to instead. But for arc changes, I think it would be similar to the what if's with Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, Rohan, and Tenmei in Stone Ocean, but maybe Mista can be here which would be fun to see how he interacts with the SO team, but IMO, Mista would probably die in the part IMO, but I think the universe reset could be pervented since we have Jotaro, the OG Stone Ocean crew, and the survivors of part's 4 and 5 here, and I think the universe reset is pervented here if that happens. But if we remove Tenmei and the others, then Jolyne gets stuck without being able to give Jotaro back Star Platinum's disc, and Pucci would likely reset the universe at the ending.
So thoughts, and any changes to the parts?
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 Part 1: Agreed
Part 1.5: Agreed
Part 2: Agreed, however I think Messina, Loggins, and Suzi Q can be here because it’s never explained how they met Lisa Lisa.
Part 2.5: Not apart of your response, but I honestly disagree with Holly existing without Suzi Q, I honestly think you need both Joseph and Suzi Q to create Holly because Holly represents both of them and it’s shown a lot, so if Joseph still isn’t gonna meet Suzi Q, I doubt Holly would exist honestly.
Part 3: Agreed, disagree with Joseph getting the donut because his whole body is covered in Hermit Purple, plus DIO did try to attack Joseph but he resisted because it would harm DIO’s vampiric body. So other words if DIO tries to donut Joseph, DIO is gonna die or likely get harmed but Joseph would not be harmed.
Part 4: Agreed
Part 5: Agreed
Part 6: Agreed
@@IceEpikFace Ok, so IG my response for the Joseph is that the only reason he did actually did cover his body with Hermit Purple was because he knew Dio was capable of punching someone through the stomach, as he seen it happen to Kakyoin. So basically, without Kakyoin getting donut (since his eye injury did play a big role in him missing out in this timeline) then Joseph would not know about it, unless he finds Dio donut a bystander instead, and if that's the case, then Joseph would still be alive, but assuming he was, then I think DIU goes the same except that it wouldn't be the Speedwagon Foundation and instead Joseph hires his own boat driver to take him to Morioh instead, and that basically means Akira gets defeated when he originally would, and maybe in this timeline Joseph can be the one who uses Hermit Purple to tell Jotaro about Giorno instead (like how he found out about Josuke and Angelo.) so instead that can happen here with GW/VA mostly being the same but instead Kakyoin would fulfill the role of the guy to deliver the arrow to Team Bucciarati and become the one stuck inside of Coco Jumbo instead of Polnareff (which I think Kakyoin would fit that role a little better TBH since he's always took threats more serious then Polnareff did.) and by Stone Ocean, I think instead the role of keeping Jotaro alive can go to Giorno, with Giorno using his life giving to keep Jotaro's body in perfect condition, while also creating the bird that takes the stand disc back to Jotaro, and instead it would mean Jolyne calls him instead. But I think that happens, and I can see the part 5 crew actually being here to fight Pucci, and I think it be cool to maybe have a call back to Dio walking on the mansion walls by having Giorno walk on the ground after Pucci used C-Moon to manipulate gravity. But IMO, Passione can replace the Speedwagon Foundation when it comes to part 6 IMO so that Jotaro can still come back at the end.
What if Dio had a son after Phantom Blood story?
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The phantom Blood Movie looked Almost Good and Great and it's Shame it didn't Release and Jonathan and zeppeli designs in the movie are much better than both their. manga and Anime Designs I kinda Hoped Jonathan in the anime would Have looked like the one in the Cancelled OVA ( makes him look like Kenishro and Guts ) as well but The only things I don't like about it is that I heard that They cut off Speedwagon ( The G.O.A.T ) and baby Lisa Lisa unfortunately
They also removed Dire, Straitzo, Poco, and his sister, which is why I made the video, because Speedwagon, Lisa Lisa, and Straitzo played a huge role in Battle Tendency, and onwards.
Also here is the timeline if your interested in knowing what happens IMO.
Part 1: Speedwagon, Straitzo, Lisa Lisa, Dire, and Poco don't exist anymore, Will dies against Dio in Dire's place, and Jonathan would still die but Erina is the only one to escape the boat and Lisa Lisa doesn't exist (or worst case scenario, she dies on the boat.) but that's it.
Part 1.5: Excluding Speedwagon and Straitzo, everything else goes the same, but Joseph has a different mother instead.
Part 2: Joseph know about the Pillar Men until much later, Caesar would likely be the one who kills Santana instead but Stroheim would actually die in this fight, I think Caesar and Joseph can eventually meet somehow, but I don't think 2 would change much, but Caesar would have to train Joseph more, but he would still run in to fight Wamuu and die IMO (since Joseph was against the idea in the canon.) but Joseph can still kill Wamuu, and realistically Kars would likely win unless Joseph outsmarts Kars and is an extra step ahead, which I doubt it TBH, but we'll say he somehow defeats Kars in Lisa Lisa's spot.
Part 3: So I don't think much would change until the second half, where Iggy is never found so he's out of the story, Kakyoin would be out for the rest of the part as the only reason he was able to get his injury treated was because of the Speedwagon Foundation, and since Speedwagon doesn't exist, no SWF, meaning Kakyoin is gone. Avdol has his canon death, but when Polnareff was almost killed by Vanilla Ice at the end he would actually die here since no Iggy meaning Polnareff does die to Ice, but Joseph and Jotaro can defeat Dio together instead. And for the rest of SDC, Joseph would be the one to die revealing The World's power instead of Kakyoin (since he would be out longer because no SWF.) but I think Jotaro should still win IMO, but Joseph isn't brought back because he has a massive hole in his stomach which Jotaro wouldn't be able to bring him back with the heart thing. So basically Jotaro lives, Kakyoin also lives but because he would be injured by N'doul, and Avdol, Polnareff, and Joseph are killed by Vanilla Ice and Dio.
Part 4: So I assume Jotaro can find out Josuke's existence in a different way instead, but he does, and IMO, I think the part mostly goes the same but instead Akira wouldn't be caught untill much later, and maybe he could work together with Kira and his father instead, which would would make Kira an even bigger threat since Akira would be able to give him intel on people who are looking into his identity. But IMO, I think instead Akira and Kira can be defeated by Josuke and Okuyasu together instead, which I would have Okuyasu kill Akira, and after that still take Kira's bomb blast, but instead Josuke would actually kill Kira in this timeline, so Josuke and Okuyasu both actually get to kill the people they hated the most (which I still kinda wish they did, or at least have Akira join the Duwang gang TBH.) but I think we may have an additional Morioh character die TBH (IMO, I'd have Hazumada or Yuya or (if you wanna get risky) Rohan or Okuyasu die TBH, but IMO Hazumada can die to Akira probably.)
Part 5: So the part's start off would be hard since the SWF were what found out about Giorno, but IMO, Jotaro maybe finds him because of fate and stuff, but IMO, Koichi still goes, and for the final arc, I would replace Polnareff for Kakyoin instead, since Kakyoin would still be alive and would've finally recovered from the cuts on his eyes, but instead I think Kakyoin would've not lost any limbs since he was a lot more careful then Polnareff was, but I do think Diavolo might hurt Kakyoin though, and I believe part 5 would probably be Kakyoin in the Coliseum instead, and he can get Hierophant Green Requiem and instead it can be HGR (Hierophant Green Requiem for short.) to do the body swap instead, and IMO, Abbacchio, Narancia, and Bruno would still die in the final fight to Diavolo, but Giorno, Mista, and Trish are still alive, and the only real change is that we would be getting Kakyoin turtle memes instead of Polnareff turtle memes (which I'm 100% fine with as long as my favorite cherry gamer is safe TBH.) but that's it for 5 IMO.
Part 6: So I still think the part starts off the same, but instead I think that Kakyoin would still have Tenmei, and instead we would not only get the part 4 but the part 5 cast to help, which I would have Giorno stay with Jotaro and keep him alive with his life giving while also creating the bird to deliver the Star Platinum disc back to instead. But for arc changes, I think it would be similar to the what if's with Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, Rohan, and Tenmei in Stone Ocean, but maybe Mista can be here which would be fun to see how he interacts with the SO team, but IMO, Mista would probably die in the part IMO, but I think the universe reset could be pervented since we have Jotaro, the OG Stone Ocean crew, and the survivors of part's 4 and 5 here, and I think the universe reset is pervented here if that happens. But if we remove Tenmei and the others, then Jolyne gets stuck without being able to give Jotaro back Star Platinum's disc, and Pucci would likely reset the universe at the ending.
So thoughts, and any changes to the parts?
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573 I liked it and I don't think It needs any Changes
Why would Stroheim die if his death is the same and German science is the same?
@@VampireStraizo If I remember correctly, the Speedwagon Foundation was what helped them with the UV lights, so since we are removing Speedwagon, this logically means the Speedwagon Foundation has to go, and that means Stroheim and the Nazi's likely don't have UV lights.