Newfoundlanders fished for centuries as inshore seasonal fisherman. There was never a danger in cod stocks. Then, in the 60s commercial fishing came along with long liners, factory freezer trawlers, etc., and totally killed the fish stocks in a couple of decades. Sad reality, that the commercial fishery killed an entire way of life and culture in about 20 years. That's politics and greed for ya.
That is sort of correct, but it does lead to biomass decrease, which in turn leads to lower fish stocks anyway. If you think about it from an evolutionary standpoint, if smaller fish are more likely to survive, then fish with those genes are passed on as they live to maturity. Eventually all the fish with the genes to make them larger are fished away and all you are left with is commercially nonviable fish. Unfortunately really the only solution is to stop fishing in some cases.
Should be only jigging machines on commercial boats,with a jigging machine you select what you catch and you can release the fish and it will likely survive also when you had enough you just go home.A good fisherman on a 25 ft boat with 3 jigging machines can catch 2 tons in less than 4 hours with zero waste.
@@cofishfinder7269 I have a boat and I go fishing a lot bro,cod is a hard core fish it can survive easy and also u dont fish it in deep water.I had halibut at 150 meters that was under the legal size and it just went away no problem, only fish that wont make it is redfish but like I said,if I catch some, i just move to another spot but if I had a net or longline the fish would be all doomed . Btw i know for a fact on big trawls they dump tons of dead fish back in the sea when its like small saithe or tusk
The fishermen in Massachusetts say that the researchers don't have a clue.They say they check the same few areas to determine our Cod stocks.They have been saying they are fish and swim all over the North Atlantic all the time.
I am grateful we are getting out of the EU. I only hope the UK fisheries minister takes a leaf out of Norways book and preserve the stocks we have left.
this problem will never be solved as long as politicans have a say. politicans go into office as minor criminals and advance their criminal ways. the e.u. commission has made 1000's of decesions over the yrs and 1 or 2 were shown to be correct. follow the money. those making money will never help solve the problem.
A partial answer to the question of controlling the catch and yet avoiding the wastage caused by having to dump fish is to strictly control the size of the fleet, its tonnage (to prevent the use of monster fishing boats) and the equipment used rather than merely control the tonnage of fish by specie.
The state of Alaska opened the west Aleutian islands to trawlers 100 feet and smaller. So, we pull into Adak, to see a company boat with it's bow chopped off to get under 100 feet. They caught so much fish, that they welded the bow back on afterward, and continued on with their federal pollack quota yet to fill. And us small family operations? We were done, and had to head home.
We all need to copy what Norway has done, not only have they got a very healthy fishery but now they have angling tourism which brings in a lot money. One thing that I noticed about this film is how small 90% of Cod the are! I was fishing in Norway in March and out of the 100+ cod I caught that week the smallest was about 15lb! Ps 95% of the cod I caught went back alive
How about reducing the demand by starting compaigns encouraging all to drastically reduce their consumption of seafood in general and cod in particular.
The stupidity of forcing a fisherman to throw away a catch that was over his quota in idiotic.The video explains that those fish will die anyways from decompression.This is not a solution,but creates a huge problem.The big trawler /factory ships should have been banned for a time.The draggers are ripping up the bottom of the ocean's habitat that the fish live in. Plus listen to the fisherman.They may not have Ph.D.'s but they know fish.That's what they do, their fathers and grandfathers did.That knowledge has been passed down by generations.The smaller boats are much less damaging to the amount of fish caught and fish habitat. Let's face it small boats do not have the sophisticated fish finding equipment the big ships have.
People should me more aware of this issue. In most European countries cod is cheap and people buy it like buying chicken or pork. If they just knew everything behind this food staple they would value more this fish and the environmental catastrophe that is behind it.
Im getting more frustated the more i watch ! So some guy is now buying more litle boats so he can claim more money from the EU a month 2500 per boat. So this guy fishes illigaly and is next going to be scamming the system.....And they wonder why things are going bad for them. With mentality like that and greed like that you can see why its all gone wrong.
34:20 They should do a seasonal take rate, Were only select boats are allowed to get a certain poundage then they are done for that season. That would eliminate wasting fish before you go back to the docks.
The world will have to stop fishing for 50 years in order for the ocean to recover to "sustainable" level. With fishing stock collapses across the globe, the notion that humans can treat the ocean as a garbage dump, sewage drain, and food basket simultaneously will simply baffle future generations to come.
horrible that we, as people, view short term financial gain above long term sustainability and environmental health.... we are doomed and are taking everything with us
-Regulate how large the boats get to be (little tug-boats, not floating factories plz) -Regulate how many boats every country gets to deploy -Set a quota not for how many fish get to be brought to land, but how many every boat gets to catch per year (or whatever length of time is appropriate) so that if you fill your quota early, you have to stop stop fishing early. If you can't live off of that: tough shit, get a second job or convince the EU to take your neighbor's job away; both of you will be out of a job anyway once you mutually drive the cod to extinction. -Increase mesh-size so only large fish get caught OR make it compulsory to bring every fish you catch to land, where they could be sold as "irregular" stock (just like irregularly shaped vegetables) if they do not comply to EU norms. HOW IS THIS DIFFICULT?!
America has pretty good fishing laws its Japan and other countries that don't. The EU sucks for most countries in it. That's why Britain left. How have they been arguing for so long about discarding... with no solution that's just useless.
lukkyluciano You're right it's too bad however there's some data to show the population is recovering it may not happen in our lifetimes. Look at the buffalo it was down to double digits 100 years ago and now there's 500 thousand.
There are milion of people who cannot afford to buy fish on a regular base in europe. Why europe is allowing to through all this ? Why it does not, if it is unable to not be corrupted by fishing industry, set a non commercial subsidized industry to give these products to unemployed or to international help, instead of polluting the sea bottom ?
What waste.We dont do that over here in the states,even though we dont have much.We at least try and conserve,especially rec guys,we through back what we dont need or ones that are too small.They need an american to solve this problem,not europeans who dont know shit.If i were there i would make nets smaller and boats smaller,those who dont comply have their shit impounded and have to pay a fine,half a euro for for every fish at max capacity of the boat.Trust me,that would actually work,and theres little waste.
theres so many ways of addressing these issues,,, and large scale trawlers are NOT the answer,,, smaller vessels,, more jobs,, more selectivity and rod/ line caught catch,,no by catch,,, as all caught and dad to be landed and used in ways that are more benficial tha throwin it away to rot, ,
All fisheries need to stop for a few years. I went haddock fishing a couple months ago nothing we pulled up from 250 ft would've survived, I myself caught a couple cod by hook n line and by law we had to release them but they don't survive it goes wasted. Salmon, cod, haddock, all these Coldwater fisheries are worth saving for once let's think of something other than ourselves n $. Let's limit the fishing season period, no more dumping if a fisherman catches way too much he can keep his catch but no fishing for one quota cycle
Dear LORD !!! YOU THREW AWAY 7 TONNS OF FISH FOR THE SAKE OF 1.5 TONES ! I hope these fishermen learn the hard way ! The laws of COMMON SENSE will get them..... The only defence they have is the fact the scientists cant directly SEE the fish. If there are less fish boats then yes you are going to catch more fish. When there was lots of boats you caught less fish ! They will all end up like that old man who slipped. And they will have no one else to blame but themselves !
net fishing circumference MUST be Dramatically Reduce in Size so that fishes would NOT die because of Pressure from other fishes. Freaking Moronic Huge-Net using fishermen.
WTG Norway! Leave it to a small, "backwoods" country to show the rest of the world common-sense! I had no idea we (European-Union countries) were wasting so much fish BY LAW! I hope this documentary is truthful, I will have to do more research to see how much merit this movie holds. But in the meanwhile, this film SEEMS to "ring true" with MY common-sense!
p.s.- I thought it was hilarious that fishermen were going out to buy more boats to up their subsidy from the government! That's using your head, lol! If the government is going to be so stupid as to pay fishermen for each boat NOT to fish, then I hope each and every fisherman is running out to buy 10x rowboats and rafts each! Maybe they TAX the government in to wiser solutions that way. At least I HOPE the government sees the error in its ways. If we go by history though, they'll probably find some other way to screw over those poor fishermen...
One would think that todays fishermen would have nets that could be opened while trolling and cams in the net so the captain could see if the net was full of the wrong catch. Then he could open and release without killing all the fish in the net. Mankind needs to open its eyes, the only reason anything in the ocean is having trouble is because of something Mankind has done. The nuclear dumping that took place in the Atlantic needs to be cleaned up by the EU. May God have mercy on us all.
obviously hvnt popped over to England and seen where the increase is havin effect,,,as with many northern European countries,, the numbers are goin up,,, what ever the cause,, longevity/ migration..
You think that's bad. EU boats were high grading in Irish waters and dumping anything they didn want. when Irish boats followed behind them their nets were full of dead fish. What did the EU boats do.. put in massive blenders to turn discarded fish into pulp
total waist , european union marionette only looks like is doing something respect norway , and every country should thing are we idiots to dump good fish as 1 billion persons are suffering from hunger in 2013 these are the real hunger games....how can you catch and than throw away fish that dies it;s like we are in idiocracy not democracy ....UE go ahead respect your promises and settle this
All netting any trawler boats should be stopped., fisherman should take it in their own hands n sink any mass murder machine they see afloat then they have habitat aswell from sunken vessels WIN WIN
Brilliant idea! Did you think that up all by yourself? It's genius! Sink boats, kill crew, destroy families, destroy people's livelihoods, cause major pollution, kill more marine & bird life, end up in Jail for a very long time. Are you a Sea Shepherd snowflake by any chance?
This problems dosuent start from over fishing, the fisherman, and the fishing metods, are the one´s, ther is blamed from EU´s side, but rely, is that the major resun, I dont think so at all, what about all the waist, ther was dumt in the Baltic Sea after world war 2, bombs of many kinds, and much much other stof of shit, and what about the waist from the industrey, ther has been running out in the Baltic Sea for years, do EU´s siens rely think, that this havent head, any infects at all, I think that EU´s so caled siens in marina life, schoud lift ther fath good payed arses, from ther chers, and com out on the sea, on som of this comersial fishing wessels, and realy see, what is infecting, the life at sea.
Ban net fishing fishing, let the price of fish go up like a Rocket, the ones who can afford it can buy it and the ones who can't, let them catch it with hook and line, and the trawler men can catch with hook and line to sell it,, they won't go out of business, the market will stabilise, i am a angler and i don't like net fishing..
Why not use the bycatch in fish meal or fertilizer it's just dumb to throw it back into the ocean when it's dead the money raised from that could be used in research on the cod to see if they can be farmed and take a little bit of pressure off wild cod stocks.
Newfoundlanders fished for centuries as inshore seasonal fisherman. There was never a danger in cod stocks. Then, in the 60s commercial fishing came along with long liners, factory freezer trawlers, etc., and totally killed the fish stocks in a couple of decades. Sad reality, that the commercial fishery killed an entire way of life and culture in about 20 years. That's politics and greed for ya.
It is about time for part two of this great documentary ;)
one way to preserve cod stocks is to increase the net mesh size, the undersized fish will be able to swim straight through..
Long lining using circle hooks would probably help too.
Another way is to prevent fishing in some areas, ensuring lots of the cod completely avoid fishers throughout their entire life cycle.
GMick Rob
That is sort of correct, but it does lead to biomass decrease, which in turn leads to lower fish stocks anyway. If you think about it from an evolutionary standpoint, if smaller fish are more likely to survive, then fish with those genes are passed on as they live to maturity. Eventually all the fish with the genes to make them larger are fished away and all you are left with is commercially nonviable fish. Unfortunately really the only solution is to stop fishing in some cases.
I think they already do that.
My family is from nfld. The ocean was scraped up from us and the surrounding country's outside
Should be only jigging machines on commercial boats,with a jigging machine you select what you catch and you can release the fish and it will likely survive also when you had enough you just go home.A good fisherman on a 25 ft boat with 3 jigging machines can catch 2 tons in less than 4 hours with zero waste.
I don’t know how deep they bring those cod up from but if it’s super deep the likelihood of the fish surviving is pretty slim.
@@cofishfinder7269 I have a boat and I go fishing a lot bro,cod is a hard core fish it can survive easy and also u dont fish it in deep water.I had halibut at 150 meters that was under the legal size and it just went away no problem, only fish that wont make it is redfish but like I said,if I catch some, i just move to another spot but if I had a net or longline the fish would be all doomed .
Btw i know for a fact on big trawls they dump tons of dead fish back in the sea when its like small saithe or tusk
The fishermen in Massachusetts say that the researchers don't have a clue.They say they check the same few areas to determine our Cod stocks.They have been saying they are fish and swim all over the North Atlantic all the time.
The world needs to learn to eat by catch...
I am grateful we are getting out of the EU. I only hope the UK fisheries minister takes a leaf out of Norways book and preserve the stocks we have left.
UK companies are some of the biggest fishers in the world.
I very much doubt we will take a leaf out of Norway's book but we can dream I suppose
You're going to be rather disappointed then. Exactly the same issues exist in other fisheries outside of the Eu.
I hate how they dump fish too
this problem will never be solved as long as politicans have a say. politicans go into office as minor criminals and advance their criminal ways. the e.u. commission has made 1000's of decesions over the yrs and 1 or 2 were shown to be correct. follow the money. those making money will never help solve the problem.
A partial answer to the question of controlling the catch and yet avoiding the wastage caused by having to dump fish is to strictly control the size of the fleet, its tonnage (to prevent the use of monster fishing boats) and the equipment used rather than merely control the tonnage of fish by specie.
The state of Alaska opened the west Aleutian islands to trawlers 100 feet and smaller. So, we pull into Adak, to see a company boat with it's bow chopped off to get under 100 feet. They caught so much fish, that they welded the bow back on afterward, and continued on with their federal pollack quota yet to fill. And us small family operations? We were done, and had to head home.
Smaller nets, bigger net mesh size :/ smaller fish can swim through and you won't have to discard as many fish if your net is full
We all need to copy what Norway has done, not only have they got a very healthy fishery but now they have angling tourism which brings in a lot money. One thing that I noticed about this film is how small 90% of Cod the are! I was fishing in Norway in March and out of the 100+ cod I caught that week the smallest was about 15lb! Ps 95% of the cod I caught went back alive
For Cods Sake!
How about reducing the demand by starting compaigns encouraging all to drastically reduce their consumption of seafood in general and cod in particular.
The stupidity of forcing a fisherman to throw away a catch that was over his quota in idiotic.The video explains that those fish will die anyways from decompression.This is not a solution,but creates a huge problem.The big trawler /factory ships should have been banned for a time.The draggers are ripping up the bottom of the ocean's habitat that the fish live in. Plus listen to the fisherman.They may not have Ph.D.'s but they know fish.That's what they do, their fathers and grandfathers did.That knowledge has been passed down by generations.The smaller boats are much less damaging to the amount of fish caught and fish habitat. Let's face it small boats do not have the sophisticated fish finding equipment the big ships have.
They should ban cod fishing completely and save the fish
People should me more aware of this issue. In most European countries cod is cheap and people buy it like buying chicken or pork. If they just knew everything behind this food staple they would value more this fish and the environmental catastrophe that is behind it.
Im getting more frustated the more i watch ! So some guy is now buying more litle boats so he can claim more money from the EU a month 2500 per boat. So this guy fishes illigaly and is next going to be scamming the system.....And they wonder why things are going bad for them. With mentality like that and greed like that you can see why its all gone wrong.
I'm going to eat some while I watch this
34:20 They should do a seasonal take rate, Were only select boats are allowed to get a certain poundage then they are done for that season. That would eliminate wasting fish before you go back to the docks.
I wonder how the EU's fishing effort ($/kilo) compares with other fisheries.
How can they just sit there and watch this wanting waste ! What are they going to do when the fish are gone for ever ?!
The world will have to stop fishing for 50 years in order for the ocean to recover to "sustainable" level. With fishing stock collapses across the globe, the notion that humans can treat the ocean as a garbage dump, sewage drain, and food basket simultaneously will simply baffle future generations to come.
Our little Pole fisherman just isn't too bright.
oh my cod. I didnt know there was such a plaice.
Oh dear!
with increasing population of northern Europe and the rest of the world,,,, reducing demand will sadly not be in the frame .
Gotta love the hopeful fish; I say he would be a good diplomat, but not for long. Bigger fish would eat... !!
High-grading is illegal here ! Which it should be
horrible that we, as people, view short term financial gain above long term sustainability and environmental health.... we are doomed and are taking everything with us
2024 - All recreational cod fishing prohibited in Baltic sea. Fuck industrial fishing!
-Regulate how large the boats get to be (little tug-boats, not floating factories plz)
-Regulate how many boats every country gets to deploy
-Set a quota not for how many fish get to be brought to land, but how many every boat gets to catch per year (or whatever length of time is appropriate) so that if you fill your quota early, you have to stop stop fishing early. If you can't live off of that: tough shit, get a second job or convince the EU to take your neighbor's job away; both of you will be out of a job anyway once you mutually drive the cod to extinction.
-Increase mesh-size so only large fish get caught OR make it compulsory to bring every fish you catch to land, where they could be sold as "irregular" stock (just like irregularly shaped vegetables) if they do not comply to EU norms.
HOW IS THIS DIFFICULT?!
America has pretty good fishing laws its Japan and other countries that don't. The EU sucks for most countries in it. That's why Britain left. How have they been arguing for so long about discarding... with no solution that's just useless.
our laws were too late, the Grand Banks cod population still hasnt recovered 25 years later and likely never will.
lukkyluciano You're right it's too bad however there's some data to show the population is recovering it may not happen in our lifetimes. Look at the buffalo it was down to double digits 100 years ago and now there's 500 thousand.
There are milion of people who cannot afford to buy fish on a regular base in europe. Why europe is allowing to through all this ? Why it does not, if it is unable to not be corrupted by fishing industry, set a non commercial subsidized industry to give these products to unemployed or to international help, instead of polluting the sea bottom ?
In canada the cod knew what to do maybe they migrated to ireland because irish people dont eat much fish
What waste.We dont do that over here in the states,even though we dont have much.We at least try and conserve,especially rec guys,we through back what we dont need or ones that are too small.They need an american to solve this problem,not europeans who dont know shit.If i were there i would make nets smaller and boats smaller,those who dont comply have their shit impounded and have to pay a fine,half a euro for for every fish at max capacity of the boat.Trust me,that would actually work,and theres little waste.
theres so many ways of addressing these issues,,, and large scale trawlers are NOT the answer,,, smaller vessels,, more jobs,, more selectivity and rod/ line caught catch,,no by catch,,, as all caught and dad to be landed and used in ways that are more benficial tha throwin it away to rot,
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NOW WHATS FUKUSHIMA;;
kevin blanch THE WAY OF THIS SICK WORLD BIG FISH EAT LITTLE FISH,, and the big fish keep getting bigger, and the little fish DIE,,,,
It is the fisherman throwing away the fish because they are greedy for money ! No one is telling them to throw the fish away but themselves !
Simple to say that when you clearly dont understand how the quota system works
Stop trawling full stop killing the sea beds use long lines or large nets only it’s simple
Hav you ever seen long lining at work. Not as eco friendly as you think.
All fisheries need to stop for a few years. I went haddock fishing a couple months ago nothing we pulled up from 250 ft would've survived, I myself caught a couple cod by hook n line and by law we had to release them but they don't survive it goes wasted. Salmon, cod, haddock, all these Coldwater fisheries are worth saving for once let's think of something other than ourselves n $. Let's limit the fishing season period, no more dumping if a fisherman catches way too much he can keep his catch but no fishing for one quota cycle
EU How can so many do so little EU
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Dear LORD !!! YOU THREW AWAY 7 TONNS OF FISH FOR THE SAKE OF 1.5 TONES ! I hope these fishermen learn the hard way ! The laws of COMMON SENSE will get them..... The only defence they have is the fact the scientists cant directly SEE the fish. If there are less fish boats then yes you are going to catch more fish. When there was lots of boats you caught less fish ! They will all end up like that old man who slipped. And they will have no one else to blame but themselves !
I think we need a new view in our green thinking, greenpeace is clearly not enough. The new way should be like green terrorists and real fights.
net fishing circumference MUST be Dramatically Reduce in Size so that fishes would NOT die because of Pressure from other fishes. Freaking Moronic Huge-Net using fishermen.
WTG Norway! Leave it to a small, "backwoods" country to show the rest of the world common-sense! I had no idea we (European-Union countries) were wasting so much fish BY LAW! I hope this documentary is truthful, I will have to do more research to see how much merit this movie holds. But in the meanwhile, this film SEEMS to "ring true" with MY common-sense!
p.s.- I thought it was hilarious that fishermen were going out to buy more boats to up their subsidy from the government! That's using your head, lol! If the government is going to be so stupid as to pay fishermen for each boat NOT to fish, then I hope each and every fisherman is running out to buy 10x rowboats and rafts each! Maybe they TAX the government in to wiser solutions that way. At least I HOPE the government sees the error in its ways. If we go by history though, they'll probably find some other way to screw over those poor fishermen...
Backwoods? i take it you have never been to Norway ?lol
One would think that todays fishermen would have nets that could be opened while trolling and cams in the net so the captain could see if the net was full of the wrong catch. Then he could open and release without killing all the fish in the net. Mankind needs to open its eyes, the only reason anything in the ocean is having trouble is because of something Mankind has done. The nuclear dumping that took place in the Atlantic needs to be cleaned up by the EU. May God have mercy on us all.
obviously hvnt popped over to England and seen where the increase is havin effect,,,as with many northern European countries,, the numbers are goin up,,, what ever the cause,, longevity/ migration..
Fishermen should have to bring all bycatch back.... then we know what is being caught and a lot of it is edible.... it is the only way to go....
That dumping is most idiotic things i have ever heard
You think that's bad.
EU boats were high grading in Irish waters and dumping anything they didn want.
when Irish boats followed behind them their nets were full of dead fish.
What did the EU boats do.. put in massive blenders to turn discarded fish into pulp
If the EU disintegrates, will each country go back to catching as many fish as it can?
No... They will have individual government regulations.
no isnt the right answer. It will be a free for all
lukkyluciano Please explain how it will be "free for all". Do you mean a free for all as in everyone against everyone else?
+Zaes666 how does, for example, shared fishing grounds get governed in that case? In places like the north sea it would be a free for all.
total waist , european union marionette only looks like is doing something respect norway , and every country should thing are we idiots to dump good fish as 1 billion persons are suffering from hunger in 2013 these are the real hunger games....how can you catch and than throw away fish that dies it;s like we are in idiocracy not democracy ....UE go ahead respect your promises and settle this
sickening
OH The White Man The Indians Would be Proud
All netting any trawler boats should be stopped., fisherman should take it in their own hands n sink any mass murder machine they see afloat then they have habitat aswell from sunken vessels WIN WIN
Brilliant idea! Did you think that up all by yourself? It's genius! Sink boats, kill crew, destroy families, destroy people's livelihoods, cause major pollution, kill more marine & bird life, end up in Jail for a very long time.
Are you a Sea Shepherd snowflake by any chance?
cod fish are better then any human government on this flat earth
This problems dosuent start from over fishing, the fisherman, and the fishing metods, are the one´s, ther is blamed from EU´s side, but rely, is that the major resun, I dont think so at all, what about all the waist, ther was dumt in the Baltic Sea after world war 2, bombs of many kinds, and much much other stof of shit, and what about the waist from the industrey, ther has been running out in the Baltic Sea for years, do EU´s siens rely think, that this havent head, any infects at all, I think that EU´s so caled siens in marina life, schoud lift ther fath good payed arses, from ther chers, and com out on the sea, on som of this comersial fishing wessels, and realy see, what is infecting, the life at sea.
Ban net fishing fishing, let the price of fish go up like a Rocket, the ones who can afford it can buy it and the ones who can't, let them catch it with hook and line, and the trawler men can catch with hook and line to sell it,, they won't go out of business, the market will stabilise, i am a angler and i don't like net fishing..
This type of fishing should be ban tons of babies died ..that's how u extinct the fish
THE EU AGAIN ALL FOR THEM
that is discusting
Why not use the bycatch in fish meal or fertilizer it's just dumb to throw it back into the ocean when it's dead the money raised from that could be used in research on the cod to see if they can be farmed and take a little bit of pressure off wild cod stocks.
Too many people,obviously.