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This study was done in 2017, things have gotten worse since then. Now you got myocarditis and COVID injuries.
99.9% "vaccine" related I imagine. "Covid" was pathetic.
Pure truths
Why would anyone sign up for the same military that poisoned people with the jab?
“..worse..”?? I feel sure THAT’S an extreme understatement.🇺🇸
Meanwhile physically fit men have been entering the country in droves for years. Too many of them are also trained in guerilla combat, at the very least.
And/or are sociopathic at best.
Never been in the military, but I can speak to how physically fit (or unfit) kids today are. I teach auto mechanics. I'm 48 years old. I have 17 year old students who can't even stand on concrete for 2 hours without complaining or having to sit down. When I'm 48 years old, and I can run circles around 17 and 18 year old guys, something is very wrong.
Hell I'm 67 and much younger people can't keep up with me
And they are weak. They have no muscles. It’s really weird.
@@user-zv3fe4nz8o Wow, so weird, it's almost like when there's no need for intense activity the body adjusts accordingly!! How crazy... Lol.
Kids probably wearing bad Chinese made shoes. Found that out myself after 15 years of cement factory floors.
Fifty years ago most jobs in America were physical in nature - factory manual labor and construction. Probably 50% more operating farms then too. Today 80% (shooting off the top of my head) of American jobs are office or 'sit on your ass at home' jobs that require ZERO physical effort - all mental. That's progress - I get it. However without the discipline to exercise and be active to 'make up' for ass sittin' time - the body wastes away. It drops to the lowest energy level required to function - science there! This same applies to kids. Again 50 years ago PONG was a prototype and cartoons were only on Saturday morning. Get your damn kids outside people! America is a mere shadow of itself today. Where's the self reliant hard working independent American spirit that saved the world just 80 years ago? Have you seen how China raises 'their' kids today? We better get busy.
When I was in my late 30s or early 40s I got in the ring with an 18 year old and beat his ass easily boxing. It was not a challenge. We were taking boxing lessons and the instructor would challenge us to fight people bigger or even multiple people. The 18 year old was bigger, looked like a high school athlete, but it turned out he had never been in a fight before.
When I joined up , I was motivated to join. I wanted to do my part and serve the country I was born in and proud of.
I worked my butt off to lose 60lbs to be able to reach the minimum requirements to even go to basic training.
I went, I served my time, I got a dd214 and continued on with life.
Today I probably wouldn't make the same choice if I had to do it all over again.
I don't think the true problem is people being to fat to join , I think the true problem is people are fat because they don't believe in joining anymore.
Fat and unfit is not the problem, it's the symptom of a larger problem. I bet Quite a few of you reading and watching this already have a good idea of what those problems might be.
@@Jesuslovesyou-nt8rf Don't join, there is no duty to country, no evil at the door. Our government has nothing but contempt for its citizens and bends over backwards for corporate oligarchs, and oil companies. The leadership is garbage, they will fuck you over at every turn just to help themselves, and once you get out, there is no support. You have to fight harder to get the benefits they promised would be available once you left the service than to get a mortgage. Go to trade school, become a plumber, electrician, welder, brick mason, HVAC technician, or a carpenter. Useful trades that you can do wherever in the world and make six figures doing.
@@Jesuslovesyou-nt8rf It's not likely the US will stay out of war for very long - the world has changed - even since 9/11. Only 25% of people in the military are ever put in harms way - get shot at or bombed. The vast majority of the military supports those doing the fighting. For example the Air Force - only the pilots, aircrews and PJs are in harms way while everyone else is fixing jets, loading bombs on jets, watching radar screens, etc. POGs - People Other than Grunts make up the vast majority of the US military. Many of these jobs require technical training (if you qualify) and may lead to a good career back in the civilian world. I'm just saying if you want to serve your country in the military you don't need to get 'shot at' to do it. Still have to get through some kind of basic training though.
It's the communist unconventional warfare that has convinced (manipulated) even the most right-wing and patriotic Americans to hate America.
Yuri Bezmenov warned about this. He was 100% correct. Watch his interviews from the 80's. He never said it would be JUST the leftwing that would fall to a communist insurgency.
Society is like a wool sweater. Pull at the right threads in the right way at the right time and the whole sweater falls apart.
This is what is happening.
It's an unconventional warfare that has been happening for over 70 years.
Our nation has been utterly ruined from the inside out.
@@ItsShradinTime It's your country when all the fighting generations are gone. Have fun speaking chinese or whatever may come. Look at porn and anime to your hearts content.
My son is going into the 9th grade. He’s a very fit and active young man. I asked him about the presidential fitness test in school. He informed me it was discontinued in 2009 so that fat kids feeling wouldn’t get hurt.
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That's simply false. The presidential fitness test was discontinued in 2013.
@@nathanwilliams3877might depend where one is.
That's not the point anyway, the point is it's been DISCONTINUED at all.
I graduated in 2007, never had to do a presidential fitness test.
Have him run cross country and wrestle….cant beat it.
The real problem is the U.S. military, even with lowering their standards can't fill recruitment quotas because of the awful leadership at the top. Right now I wouldn't recommend any young person to join the military.
I am the perfect example. 200lb straight out of boot camp 30 yrs ago. I let myself get to 355lbs 3 months ago. Down to 309lbs currently as I get ready to be ready to fight when necessary. Goal is 250lbs, good fighting weight.
Gotta admit, the shit you talk is what shamed me into action. So Thanks.
If you're 6'10"!!!!!!!
You should weight 355 lbs if you're 7' and up.
I'm 250 at 6'4" and I've gotta lose. As I'm aging it is less athletic and more pudge. The only answer is lose that weight.
Different build. At 250 I will be at prob 10% bodyfat and require a fair amount of work to maintain. I am very muscular with 20"arms when I am not a fat beast. So 250 at 5'11' is good for me.@@notmyname3883
I'm in construction.. we're aging out..kids don't want to work..
Also work for military instructor ..said Young guys are soft..meaning they're breaking bones..not jumping outta planes and getting hurt..running breaking thigh bones..doing push ups and breaking collar bones..comes from sitting around on computer..not getting outside.
And mental gotta watch what you say you may hurt their feelings..lol.
The older I get, the less I feel bad about not "serving" - because ultimately you're not serving your fellow countryman, but rather some banker / politician / suit who would happily send you off to die without thinking twice about it. We all see the theater of "countries" threatening each others' sovereignty but if you go up high enough the people who are pulling the levers of change do not hold allegiance to lines on a map. There are those who have power and those who do not - "serving" the interests of those in a position do as they please with your life is a poor choice. I don't disagree that it's sad to see the people we share this land with becoming more fat, lazy, drug addicted, and apathetic by the day but I would argue that the motivation to get in shape and be physically and mentally fit should come from a desire to look over your own flock and not some arbitrary fitness test that the government has created. That all being said I respect the hell out of every man who has served this country and I am sorry that the reasons you did so have turned out to be less than ideal.
TL;DR - Get in shape for your family, not ZOG.
I remember, back when I was homeless, I would watch protestors, sipping on their overpriced lattes, and scrolling through their overpriced macbooks...
And I realized, they weren't the team I wanted to be on. Useless, pointless, ineffective, forever poor...
I joined the banker's side. I traded in their system, used their equities, got their houses, etc.
Any of those protestors who are still even alive (they love their drugs and their depression), are probably all exactly where they were all those years ago, worth nothing, struggling day-to-day. I have gen 4 night vision and a bunch of properties to fight for. I have a vast array of skills, simply because I always am thinking and doing.
I'm only allegiant to myself and this country, but I am happy I sided with the bankers. I am in a very good position, should anything catastrophic befall this civilization.
To add to that, I don't know of any vets IRL who are doing well. They were chewed up and spat out by a soulless, abusive system so that BAE and Raytheon shares could be propped up for generals and politicians.
So, I'm glad I didn't join the military, either. For all my failures and weaknesses, I have always been good at seeing ahead.
I agree. Most people who served claim they fought to defend our freedom. They served the military industrial
complex. The only people trying to take my freedom
Is our own government and neighbors.
Found the nazi
I enlisted in 78 and served in light infantry and mechanized units until I retired in '08. I rucked 3 days a week until 2 years ago when a disc collapsed and nearly severed my sciatic nerve. At 62, I often have trouble walking. If you're going to do the road work, keep after your core or your back will suffer. My 2 cents worth.
Yeah getting older sucks. I'm with ya.
The lack of physical fitness among Americans is troubling but it’s the lack of mental toughness that worries me. Our education system has produced two generations of wimpy youths.
years of single mothers and used up boomer fuck boys
Same thing here in Canada too. Arguably worse here TBH.
It’s not all of the people on those generations. I don’t have many friends because I don’t like to sit inside and send snapchats to someone sitting next to me. I’d rather be in the woods sleeping next to a fire. Not all of the younger people in America are wimpy and unfit. Some of us are ready.
I served as a millennial. I was a 68W. I got sick and tired of the useless o line training and the constant sui*cide awareness training (had to censor so the RUclips KGB doesn't remove my comment). Not to mention how coddled females are in the military in addition to the fat body officers walking around.
Not the education system ,but social media.
Basic is the minimum requirement, we used to do it in grade school pt class everyday! We did not have one obese kid in school, maybe a couple of “ chubby”kids, but we all did gym class, then hockey or football at lunch and recess, then more after school. Every day! Nobody was on drugs for ADHD or anxiety and that carried through to high school for the most part. Basic, infantry,and advance infantry were relatively a breeze because you just got into better and better shape.
The one thing that gets me about our current DoD policies is the woke BS.
Our adversaries sure aren't concerned about it!
There are reasons that God hates that nonsense. It's abomination in His eyes.
The meds most people are taking for anxiety depression etc is my concern. The physical fitness part can be gruelingly grunt instilled accomplished with time. The psychological damage due to society, family collapse, meds scares the crap out of me with the current 18 to 35 group 1 in 3 are taking psychotropic drugs for mental health issues.
Amen
I declined taking them. Doctor recommended I be on antidepressants.
@@autisticANDarmed love your user name! Mr. Wizard would kick bill nyes ass
Stinking sad,and it's due to just plain laziness.Get off your asses america and fight for the good cause.MAGA.God bless.
Why would anyone sign up to forcefully enact the policies of the 'people' currently in charge?
Benefits and “camaraderie”
@@autisticANDarmed benefits??????
@@macnasty2740free heath care free college
True, it used to be when Americans put their life on the line it was ultimately for the US or its values. Now our troops are increasingly put in harms way for corporate interests or New World Ideology.
Exactly.. why defend a government that hates you?
Pro-tip: The ones that are fit enough would not sign up for any reason. Period, end of. If you can't figure out why, well, I don't know what to tell you.
Social contract is broken, simple as.
exactly
I tried to join the Army during the GWOT after graduating highschool in 2005. I was told I couldn't join because I had bone fusions, plates and screws in my feet and legs from a motorcycle accident when I was 17. I went on to do MMA and work on a garbage truck for years after being rejected with no issues, but they didn't even give me a chance to prove myself. Should have tried the Air Force, but I was too proud as a young man.
Joined USMC in mid 80's at 24 YO. I was running 5Ks (3.1 miles) regularly and taking lessons in two different martial art styles. I trained push ups (USMC specialty) until I could do 60 clean. Still - Marine boot camp was no joke and pushed me to my limits. Loved every minute!
I'm 62 and run/jog/rucksack hilly trails 10K (6 miles) 3 times a week whether it's 100F or -10F.
When I ruck (30-40lbs of sand), I do 10 squats every 0.65 mile (60 weighted squats in a 6 mile rucksack).
@@ronlanter6906 Impressive! I'm 63 and couldn't touch that. I'm not completely out of shape as I still do some part time construction work but need some work to get in 'grunt shape'!
I passed basic by the skin of my teeth, physically. I was 23, had asthma most of my childhood, and was always a skinny kid with zero athletic ability. When I got to my first command, I was at my physical peak, and still could only do the bare minimum of push-ups. Sit-ups and running however I could do for days. The fact that I'm 31, haven't done a push-up, sit-up, or a serious run in 3 years and somehow be more fit than people in their teens makes me feel both sick and proud. Sick at how I embarrassed myself the other day failing to do a single pull-up, but proud that attempt was still better than 75% of men between the ages of 18-35. God, we're fucked for WW3
Don't worry WWIII will only last 30 minutes. No one wins that one.
i am currently active duty marine corps and I have the same problem with you, minus the asthma. before the military i didnt do any sports except a little wrestling so I was very weak. On top of that, I have flat feet so I can't run as fast. I am barely a 2nd class PFT now which is way better than when I was in bootcamp but I am still way more fit than most of my civilian friends back home.
they are poisoning the youth
Get at it
"We 've got work to do". Truer words were Nevers spoken.
Well Done.
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Singing up for a billionaire's war is a fail..
Went to Army Basic 1984, 22 years old and worked as a landscaper so I was pretty fit, raced bicycles, had been a backpacker for many years already. We did HUNDREDS of push-up, sit ups, mountain climbers, etc, every day. Before you walked into the barracks the first week it was 10 sit ups, 10 push ups, 2nd week 20, etc. Stopped at 70 each. Don’t forget something and have to go back in 😂. We only had one fat guy and they worked the fat off of him pretty quick. Did that for 4 months, gained 20 pounds. I slowly dropped back down to my natural size and weight. At almost 61 it gets harder and harder to maintain weight and fitness. It sounds like I could outwork many youngsters these days. Good luck to us all.
As an old guy that farts dust, I would agree.
I am more fit than most people I see around me.
I watched a friends grandson a few weeks ago, we went fishing.
took that boy (13) a half hour to walk a half mile. he was mad cause i ditched him and wouldn't wait for him to catch up.
Wait, did you leave a 13 yo kid in the woods that was under your watch?
@@redactedcanceledcensored6890 the beach idiot. he is 13 the soy is strong with you. wood either way.... I was gone all day in the woods at half that age.
@nedkelly3436 yes, it is down the freaking beach. LOL...
That doesn't seem physically possible to be that slow. Was he just lazy?
Did my basic and AIT in 1987 at Ft Benning and loved the physical part. I was a skinny little 17 year old when I started and gained over 30 lbs of muscle by the time I left, just before my 18th birthday. I’ve noticed a decline in our kids over the years, but I can’t really give a good reason for it. It is truly scary, and a real threat to national security.
I was in Panama during 89-90 in the 1/508th INF (AIRBORNE). This unit was no joke, Airborne Infantry training and humping out in the jungles of Panama carrying a case of MREs and 7 quarts of water per man. That can last for 3-4 days for food, water maybe 2 days because you will be drinking and sweating. Going to the field was a parachute jump and jumping with equipment close to 3/4 of your body weight then being out in the jungle for 2 to 3 weeks. You will walk all the time after landing. Unit PT was very tough in my unit being Paratroopers because your body will take a beating when you land so it's necessary to do PT. Later that year my battalion did the Panama Invasion, yep PT did help carrying all your gear, ammo, water, food, and weapons. The fear and adrenaline rush will exhaust you in 72 hours with no or little sleep from pure fear in combat.
Well said, rain hard and train hard. Everybody can't be Airborne.
This guy says a mouth full. He is so accurate in his assessment.
Go to the supermarket. Pick up any bottled, canned or packaged food. There's about a pretty good chance that sugar will be one of the major ingredients. That'll go up to a _real good_ chance if you include high-fructose corn syrup. Why does beef jerky need sugar in it? Why does salad dressing need sugar it it? Ketchup? Steak sauce? Canned beans?
You may have to look close and do some interpreting because sometimes they try to hide it behind big or innocuous-sounding words. Go to your favorite search engine and type in "names for sugar in disguise." There will be links to articles that give you a list of the *_60 plus_* sneaky names that manufacturers use to hide the sugar that they're putting into your food, knowing that people are looking for "sugar" and "high-fructose corn syrup" and are buying items without those ingredients. So they use other ingredients that are just as much sugar but have a different name.
Also understand that ingredients on food packaging are listed by amount, so if the manufacturers use two or more different _types_ of sugar, each of those types can be listed separately and their individual amounts go down, allowing them to be further down the list of ingredients, misleading you into thinking that there's less sugar in what you're eating than there actually is.
We're often told about how lazy younger generations are, they're addicted to video games and their smartphones and they never exercise. Maybe that's true. But kids (and adults) of generations past didn't have to deal with all the sugars that are crammed into foods these days and then hidden from sight by deceptive labeling practices.
At 60 years old with previously herniated disks, I could pass the Army PT Test and the USMC PFT.
My Grandpa drove a tank in the Korean War and continued his calisthenics and weight training until he passed at 87. He told me as a 7 year old…eat right and workout the rest of your life and at 42, I have kept that going.
Same in the British army. Basic training is simply there to weed out the cripples. The physical for the Metropolitan Police is harder for that of any of the armed services. The fact is, the army wants recruits. They leave it to the regiments, once they get to their regiments, to grind out the real soldiers. It is then that the real drop-out happens. Of course, it is not like the old days. This is a generation that thinks playing 'Call of Duty' standing up is physical fitness.
I'm one of the ones that wasn't even allowed to try. I have a heart problem that was listed on a piece of paper that the recruiter had in his office and so it didn't matter what I was capable of. No hiding it either; I have one of the loudest heart murmurs most doctors have ever heard and a foot-long scar on my chest from surgery. That didn't/doesn't stop me from working out, but that wasn't enough for Uncle Sam.
There is a reason for excluding things...it is not about what you can do at the time of recruiting...it is about the weak link you are in the chain. That said, the fact that you pushed to have a crack speaks volumes about you. Keep working out.
Truer words have never been spoken, Randall. (was also a guitar playing metal head when that existed) I grew up in the country, so not being outside was just foreign to me, and still is. You mention going outside today, and kids look at you like you like they've never heard of it. Not my kid. My daughter is 10, and does a 6 day a week one hour PT session. She is ripped, and yes I'm bragging, but to listen to her stories about school mates is crazy to me, and scary, like you said. We need to bring back P.E. in school like back when. Real P.E. graded, and recorded twice a year to monitor progress. That's my two cents. Love the content, gear, and clothing recommendations, and brutal honesty. Subscriber for life!
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He's so right about looking back and thinking that basic is easy. If you're in a combat MOS. The training definitely gets harder when you get to your unit. I actually feel like they are doing kids a disservice by making it easy for them now. They get to their unit being under-trained and realize they weren't fully prepared. Then its your job to get them up to speed on the basics. Gheee its almost like we got a special camp that was supposed to take care of that.
Dude I’m 40. Worst shape of my life. I got off anti depressants and anxiety meds and started trt in January. I’m 6’1 245. I starting off with 3 mile walks daily. Now I’m doing between 3-4.5 miles a day and trying to slow jog too. It’s insane. I used to work 60 hours a week, commute an hour each way, lift weights then jog 2 miles. Maybe I need to quit drinking too. Lol. Small steps I guess.
Keep pushing dude
It's exactly that, baby steps. Take you poison little, by little. We're not young anymore, but there are things we can do at our age to be active and get fit. Can't do pullups anymore due to shoulder injury, but started off with just walking. Now every other day I do 25min strength training and alternate with rucking with a 30lb on my back twice a week (one 2 miler and one 4 miler). Developed planter faucitis cause I wasn't training smart, that's why you have to be mindful of your age, but don't stop. Train smart and get better. Nutrition is also a big part. Stopped drinking sugary juice and rice and grain based foods and started to eat only meat and vegetables and going two months and feeling great!
Try adding a weighted ruck…I am 63 and started at 25 pounds and started doing about 3 miles every other day……great workout and I am in the best shape I’ve been in 25 years
Good deal. Keep pushing, Bro.
@nedkelly3436 I stopped for 2 months. The only thing I noticed was that my poop seemed more predictable and I had less anxiety. I didn’t miss the booze as much as I thought I Would. I’m debating on taking 6 months off or something. When I drank for the first time after taking time off I was drunk quick and felt terrible the next day. I used to never get hungover.
I remember being at the recruiting office where there were some kids returning to retake the mock ASVAB because their previous scores were too low. I also recall being in bootcamp and losing 12 of my fellow recruits almost immediately because the results of their urinalysis from MEPS came back positive for drugs -- and that was back in 1994. I'd wager that it's likely worse now.
At my daughter's high school, with a body of less than 500 students, I'd estimate that almost half are either overweight or obese.
I grew up in a time where if you were to visit any neighborhood (in the US) where children lived, you'd see them outside riding bikes, climbing trees, playing army, building forts, building dams in a creek, catching crawdads, catching insects, blowing stuff up, or playing a sport. Even after sundown we'd still be out, perhaps catching fireflies, lighting fireworks, or throwing small rocks into the air to watch the bats go after them. Our parents would always have to hunt us down to come back home. We'd return with new holes in the knees of our pants, scrapes on our elbows and knees, and we were dirty and sweaty and likely smelled like wet dogs -- but it was fun. We were healthy and happy.
Fast forward to today, neighborhoods with children are devoid of any evidence that they're there -- because they're inside, tethered to their digital devices, either playing video games or brain-rotting social media platforms like TikTok, etc.
Yeah, this nation is fucked.
Heart breaking to see how many young men cannot even run a mile or do push ups. Easy bootcamp is only making bullet catchers. Not combat ready men.
One of the ways they mess with sleep time at Fort Benning was fire alarm drills at 0200. Everyone has to get up out of their racks and get down to the PT pit for formation and do a head count. Only after the all clear is given could we go back into the barracks and get back to sleep. This whole process would take at least 40 minutes.
We did the same. That sucked
The hardest part of serving in a fighting battalion, was sleep deprivation. A typical FTX was 5 days (Mon-Fri), contantly moving, seldom getting more than an occasional cat nap. Our 2-28th Infantry was a mechanized battalion, so we mostly rode in vehicles, seldom marching long distances. But getting our jobs done with little sleep and only C-rations to eat was much more difficult than Basic Combat Training.
Only 5 days? I must be old.
@@BeardedChieftain We went to the field for 90 days straight during "Gold Cycle" when I was in the 101ST.
It used to be tough. Not surprised at how times have changed from the 80s to now. My grown children still can't keep up.
Facts!
The real "fun" begins when you get to your unit. Even AIT/Tech school can be somewhat more demanding than basic. What makes basic training "difficult" or stressful is that it's a shock to your system and you're dealing with sleep and food deprivation that is out of your control.
'And all the time-such is the tragi-comedy of our situation-we continue to clamour for those very qualities we are rendering impossible. You can hardly open a periodical without coming across the statement that what our civilization needs is more ‘drive’, or dynamism, or self-sacrifice, or ‘creativity’. In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.' -- CS Lewis.
Boot was tied for the easiest physical training alongside my secondary MOS school. The difficulty from Boot to infantry training was like getting out of the 7th-grade and going straight into a Master's program.
USMC Boot Camp in 2003 was light compared to being in the fleet in a weapons platoon. Being in the fleet in weapons platoon was light compared to what I've been doing in my late 30's for PT. Progressive overload is a great metaphor.
Former Marine and was stationed in Hawaii, kaneohe! Humping the mountains with a pack, weapons platoon humping your guns. Done a PFT drunk as hell! You are right boot camp was a breeze!
One of the perks is all the free inoculations
I joined in 1999, I was 30 years old, father of 3 and I was firefighter, I was out performing 18 year old kids in PT running, bro I know what you mean. Hoooaahh!
Thanks for the motivation to stay fit
What's the point of not letting trainees sleep? I barely got any sleep for about a year and I'm not sure if it taught me anything that could be useful.
If they put a dress on they'll let them right in.
Facts. Just identify as a woman and you only have to high 1 third qualifications
Hahah
The old Reverse-Klinger Trick. Classic.
😂😂😂 You're probably absolutely...at for the 2 to 3 years but, hopefully not after the next admin get in.
Back then the dress was a way out @@hithere4719
I couldn't do all that running these days. Much respect to the men who do this every day
I enlisted in 69, I was a four sport high school athlete. Basic physical training was ridiculously easy. No one in my basic platoon seemed to have physical issues. Some had motivational problems but the DIs sorted those out quickly. My technical school was difficult if you wanted to score in the top 5%. Not a real problem. Walking everywhere was just how one got around. I never saw a bus for an everyday commute. Once on my first PCS work was mental and physical, long hours in all weather conditions. Lots of drills, inspections, and simulated combat missions. We all knew we were going to war. All my contemporaries were volunteers. No draftees. 12 hours on 7 days a week no real guaranteed sleep. Food was pretty good, except while working, then we ate C-rations. 1969-73 USAF m Crew Chief. Yes we had it much easier than the Grunts, or Mud Marines.
At 37, Im in better shape now than when I was in the Army.
My dad was in the U.S. Marines for 23 years from 1945 until 1968 when he retired i was just graduating nursing school at Baylor. I ran track in junior high, high and college. I ran 1 and 2 mile. I remember when i got my commission most we're fit. But notice NCOs probably couldn't pass a fitness test if their lives depended on it. Especially E-6 and above. I did 250 setups 250 pushups and 1,500 flutter kicks every morning before class. I'm 73 and stil run 10 miles a day 200 setups 200 pushups and 1,500 flutter kicks. I still weigh 121 pounds. I use to swim everyday until i retired and came back home to Texas. The only thing I loved about San Diego was the water.
Where the is a fat NCo there is a weak officer.
This sucks for some. My son is High functioning autistic and he has been disqualified. He wants to go in but it’s not an option. Otherwise he is physically in great shape.
In the midst of our shared concerns about the potential for the military to be wielded against its citizenry, we are faced with a profound juxtaposition. On one side, there is trepidation surrounding an armed force that is perceived as ever vigilant, possessing an undeterred spirit. On the opposite end, we observe what some might describe as a less resolute, less disciplined cadre, potentially uncertain of their purpose and direction.
When contemplating the daunting specter of our own armed forces being deployed against us, one is prompted to ponder: Would it be more desirable to face a disciplined, unwavering phalanx, or an assembly less resolute in their convictions, perhaps following orders without fully grasping their implications?
It is the duty of every citizen to seek personal betterment and fortitude. One need not pledge fealty to sovereigns or deities to attain physical and moral strength. Embrace a wholesome diet, engage in rigorous physical training, nurture a family, and discover one's path to personal valor and virtue within our nation's borders. If our citizenry were to adopt such a collective ethos, the might of the American individual would surpass any formally organized military in the annals of history.
For those contemplating service, it is essential to weigh the potential cost, both physically and morally, especially when acting on the orders of transient leadership (You know that if you go die overseas that Joe Biden and his cabinet are sending you right?). Instead, consider a noble path: strengthen oneself to be a beacon of hard work, adherence to the law, and moral rectitude. Become not just a soldier, but a guardian of one's own kin and hearth. For in defending one's immediate community and home, one truly serves the nation
And yes, i did 20 years.
That’s one long ass driveway.
Facts, facts, and more facts. The training never ends, nor should it. I still think the Army needs to do a combination of APFT, ACFT, and an Obstacle Course for a consistent and continual Fitness Test/ Assessment. Good stuff brother!!!
Preach brother!!
Truth. After Basic, (in which we did a grand total of three 5 mile runs) AIT, and jump school, all at Ft. Benning, when i arrived to my first unit my first morning PT was a TWELVE MILE RUN up Kolekole Pass!! That was a rude awakening...
Great countries always die by some form of decadence, that hinders them from being able to take on their peers. Sloth and Gluttony are two forms of decadence this country is dying by
1984 Ft. Benning. Harmony Church. We were told regulations said we had to get 2 hours sleep per night. But it didn't have to be consecutive, they could just add up 15 minutes at a time, and it still counted. Lol. We had 'fire drills' in the middle of the night where we ran outside with our canteens and sprinkled water on the wooden barracks, then went back inside, refilled the canteens and back to sleep...then back up again, several times. Because the 'fire guard' had fallen asleep. 11-H. (TOW heavy weapons crewman, and yeah, they were heavy).
Yeah when I went through we didn't actually do that much pt in basic, the vast majority of exercise was from getting smoked for being idiots. But still way easier than expected.
Good insight 👍
"it's not that hard" mentality is important, when you are in training you just keep doing it because your fellow trainees is also doing it. you are getting stronger without you realizing it if you are keep doing it
It hast too be that tough! We want/need our strongest in the military! This isn't a game!
That's funny, I tell people all the time " I was always starving, I went to bed hungry every night" lol
tore my ACL a month before basic and AIT training... I knew I coundn't get out of it, so I just roughed it. Yeah... It was tough as hell.
When I was in school 60's 70's my PE teachers were X MILITARY and worked us like dogs but we were all in great shape ill tell that !!
When I joined I had played football, wrestled and lifted hard all year round for all of high school... our form wasn't perfect, but we did sets of 50 pushups, I benched 300 and squated 500. I lost weight, muscle, and was weaker after basic then when I entered. The only thing that was a challenge was running the long runs, I enlisted in 83, we did some 5 mile runs, which was longer then I had run before... but that was nothing compared to AD, where we often went for 5-7 mile runs, or 12 miles rucks for pt, then worked all day.
Gained 20lbs of muscle in boot camp. Loved the food :)
You don't have to be superman. You just have to be able to move and more importantly think!
Thr drill sergeants in my basic would pull the fire alarms at night so we couldnt get enough sleep haha
It’s absolutely ridiculous how far basic fitness has slipped in America. Spent the last 5 years working to undo the eating habits of my teens and early 20s. I appreciate the honest perspective grunt.
Enlisted in 74. One mile run out of basic. Two mile run out of AIT. Infantry OSUT. Three mile run out of jump school. Thought we’d cut back to two mile runs at the unit. Got a new post commander who wanted everyone to do 4 miles in 32 minutes.
This was pre APFT, so we also had the horizontal ladder, run, dodge, and jump, and inverted crawl with the run, sit up’s, and push ups.
I gained 30 lbs in five months of training.
It’s an issue of the value system.
Like any reputable counselor would say, the first step in solving the problem, is to first recognize the problem, but the step behind the step to recognizing the problem (which most people don’t address but simply assume as a given) is that your value system you adopt needs to be such that it would/should recognize the problem being a problem in the first place.
So with the example of the lack of fitness in American society, yes, it would be a problem if America if we are a society that values physical fitness and serving your country but what if our societal culture is that of valuing sitting on your ass and being pampered (which being physically fit is the opposite of), and it is only the people at the very bottom of the social hierarchy that does the hard stuff such as serving your country; and that value is accepted on all classes top to bottom (as we see with alot of east asian cultures).
Then the social incentive to be physically fit or serve your country would be low, because the average person’s attitude would be “why do hard things when you can hire people to do your hard stuff that needs to get done for you?”
And you’ll notice that that’s the attitude and value system that has been adopted by the metropolitan corporate & political elites of the country.
Coming from 1st ID here as a Fister, at a mechanized unit there is a lot of fat people in Arti and Inf. Forget the armored guys. However, the fat people do not have a fat time… why? All they care about is getting out and they get that profile to where they can’t do PT and they coast by so… I wouldn’t recommend getting fat in the military because there will be a time where you’ll need not to be fat and you’ll get screamed at and etc but you could pass by I’ve seen it. Unfortunate
I guess the army will probably have to have a 6-12 month pre-basic training fitness program to get them into shap.
Did my basic training in the summer of 81 not used to the south but I was a kid I could have done anything back then and did whenever challenged. Have fun stay safe.
The metal song in the end has to be playing in your head. The older I get the less motivation there is to voluntarily suffer.
With all due respect to the Army, I can tell you from experience that Marine Corps boot camp at MCRD Parris Island is no joke. None of the recruits in my Platoon were laughing at the training that we endured. We lost over a dozen recruits who washed out due to injuries or inability to perform to the standards set by our Senior Drill Instructor and our Drill Instructors. One recruit in our Series committed suicide by shooting himself on the rifle range. You are right about it getting tougher after boot camp, it never got easier.
👍Boots and utes in those old full leather black combat boots. Good times.
I live next to a huge military base and many of those are 4XXL
Well we grew up base ball hockey foot ball .and mountain climing horse riding always out in the bush .great show thanks you tell it like it is man .
11B 1978-1982. Basic was a breeze. AIT was harder. Both paled in comparison to what we had to deal with in my regular unit in Germany. Daily 5 mile runs. The occasional 2 mile run with gas mask after lunch (two beer limit), you can imagine what that was like and an occasional 25 miler in full kit just for the hell of it. Then there was the field. Wet, cold, snow and force march/run to the objective to shoot and move. All in all, one of the best times of my life. Stayed in “soldier shape” .up into my fifties. Paying for it now after multiple surgeries and arthritis, but wouldn’t change a thing. Keep on keeping on, gentlemen. No one said life was supposed to be easy.
I'm 59 years old and can do 15 chin-ups still lol, my friend's son who's 21, can't even lift 25 lbs.? Skinny no muscle development, lives off his grandmother's credit card.
Sounds like a target rich environment of loot boxes to me.
If more men with your attitude and tenacity had a platform with a wider audience we would have less problems like the ones you speak of. It is too common men with mindsets like yours are shut down and not allowed the reach they deserve. Got my sub
when i went through bootcamp. it was winter so everyone was sick with pneumonia, the flu, and even tuberculosis. even though i was in san diego, it would be 50 degrees on a good day, with lots of wind and rain so we were freezing every day, even in the squad bays. Imagine making that same disease ridden, cold, and tired 18 year old to run a PFT or hike 6 miles with a 60 pound pack. The majority of civilians would struggle.
When I served in the Army, it was the late 80's. Back then the Drill Instructors were allowed to get in your face and cuss you out left and right. They could put their hands on you at certain times. Sure, it was very physically demanding in Boot Camp/Basic Training. But looking back, It was 50% physical and 50% mental. Because the Drill Instructors wanted you mentally tough as well as physically tough. With so many overweight youths these days, and due to the WOKE culture we live in, so many youths are weak-minded too. So, it's no wonder that the Military is finding it hard to find recruits to join that can pass a physical test. But honestly saying, looking back on Basic Training, it really wasn't that tough at all. Back then, Basic was only 8 weeks long. Those 8 weeks compared to the entire enlistment time at your Duty Station, is nothing. It was a cake walk.
This trend starts way before work culture. No one wants to cook nor parent. That’s the real issue.
🤷🏾♂️Just drop the standards” to same as female standards! HONESTY
I remember when I moved up to TC on my M1A1, I upgraded to a 32oz coffee mug. That was hard-core. Have fun grunts.
what kind of rain jacket is that? always looking for good suggestions- Thanks
Damn! I am glad I joined the NAVY!!!!
No question when my generation joined up in the 70s we had been working at manual labor blue collar jobs, working on cars, and playing hard outside all year long. Basic Training PT was not hard. Yeah we had a few guys on the fat man program. But they completed the PT requirements, obstacle course, and graduated with the rest of us. Having a pre boot camp program is just plain sad. Need to bring back Gunny Ermy. Our Sergeants knew how to motivate individuals.
Israel has something similar at the end of basic training called the beret march which is even more intense i have personal stories of people who have died during the beret march
I was an 88m, 1988 to 1991, permanent party was V Corps, tac/cp. Training and pt was alot harder in a corps HQ than bct at Ft Leonard Wood.
When at your unit or deployed, were you living in a constant state of tiredness?
THAT is the truth .
Hell yeah & well said! If youre a youngman or an older one and are offended or realize that he is talking to you don't hang your head, I don't think this was said to put you down, but rather wake your ass up & challenge yo to do better, & be better. We all need to be striving to get better every day.
The drill sergeant in basic dogged the crap out of our platoon. That was 1983 though
They gonna be drafting people so don’t worry about who is fit or not.
OSUT was tough at the time but looking back they babied us quite a bit. First unit was a wake up call for sure.
Only did one OIF tour. I know I could count on one hand the number of times I got to sleep for more than three hours straight on that deployment.