2506WHP 5.0L Coyote Engine Teardown with Jay! What BROKE AFTER 50+ Runs?! (6.52@212MPH)
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- 2506WHP 5.0L Coyote Engine Teardown with Jay! What BROKE AFTER 50+ Runs?! (6.52@215MPH)
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An OEM block supporting 2500hp and running bottom 6s in a 3k+ pound car 🤯 great time to be alive
with sleeves, still insanely impressive
This engine is probably the nicest best maintained coyote engine in the United States period. 2800+ crank hp with such reliability and well built. You have a one of a kind engine it shows when built right you can't beat a ford. Oh yeah with factory block crank and heads.
Popcorn ready to watch 😃🍿 🏁
Love how my man really said "65 pounds isn't crazy!"
Nice to see the coyote engine doing so well
Jay calling out the dude for saying 100% 13 times is hilarious!
Edit: I think there’s some other RUclipsrs out there that need to listen to Jay’s recap at the end! Smart and methodical vs just throwing all the boost at it.
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Jay! Thanks for taking the time to autograph this sweet Real St banner! It's the favorite thing hanging on my wall at my new shop! Love what you do, and digging this TRC collab! Sincerely, unbiased Coyote owner and Real St banner recipient.
I love seeing the candid and honest approach to the video. I'm not ignoring a fantastic engine program, which you have, but you can easily diminish great content with bad video production. Thanks for a great video!
Like David Keith Duckworth said. “In any racing engine, the nearer you are to it disintegrating, the better it’s performance will be.” 😂 so send it boys! 💯💪🏼
Those rod bearings looked beautiful
The approach to finding the edge, treating it like a bomb that could end you, like a sniper crawling, creeping for days to get into position, move to quick and your gone. Jay's take and explanation was on point.
That motor and the car and driver’s performance at TX2K was legendary. Anyone who had any doubt about the Coyote platforms durability and performance are surely put to bed. Coyote > LS or SBC. Think the only rub on Coyotes are they can be a bit costly at times due to their increasing race car and motor swap popularity.
Look at pricing and it will be a good time before those 5.0s are as cheep as an LS
@@ImRacer1 doubt 5.0 can be as cheap as LS since it has more parts.
But 5.0’s are expensive as hell you could go to the junkyard grab a 4.8 change the ring gaps and boost it 1000 horsepower blow it up and do again for less than a fully built 5.0
@@bigboreracing356 bro I’m a ford tech I work on ford diesel’s daily and have been in ford dealers and shops for over 8 years I’ve seen all the ford engines and ford really doesn’t care you should see what goes on day to day in the dealers what crap ford puts out not knocking the engine but if you can make that type of horsepower for cheaper and it’s more reliable why not like it what’s so wrong with LS and LT engine platforms I don’t think any thing cause the next thing everybody is going to be on is the 7.3 and that’s nothing but an ls but the oil pump design is stupid
@@bigboreracing356 ok gotcha but how many people have a stock block 2500 horsepower 5.0? I have this conversation with a friend of mine cause he used to be a Chevy tech and he loves that 5.0 we have either a gen 2 or 3 just sitting in the shop cause it was knocking and he wants to build it to put in his mustang but it’s going to take at least 7 grand in cams bearings chains and lockout plates not to mention tuning and work not being included in that price that we would do guess it just comes down to what you want to do and put your time and effort into seems like it takes a lot more heartbreak and effort to make those things comparable to the cheap LS platform
Jay and the crew working smarter not harder 💯🇺🇸
I love these technical videos! Thank you for taking the time to edit and upload these!
Crazy stock block stock head casting factory crankshaft wtfFord! Damn that's amazing
There’s always excellent information coming from this channel! I appreciate the content y’all put out. Real ST and FFRE’s engine program is king daddy! Coyote FTW!!😮💨🔥🔥
Great video. Thanks Brett, Jay and the guys at fast forward for their analysis!
Can't think of a more interesting engine to showcase ! I've been dying to know how it held up!
4.6L terminator is an AMAZING 4v mod motor.
Mihovetz ultimately took the 4.6 4V to a 5.88 @ 256mph highest trap on oe block, heads, and timing components, factory Kellogg crank. 60 psi a tad over 3,000 hp @ 10,000. The twin cam 5.4L GT holds the standing mile world record of 300.4 mph. Ford's twin cam engines > everyone else
@@chadkent1241 100%!
“She’s a party girl 😏🤓
That’s how I like em 😏”
Footage like this is awesome!
Seriously… how many teams / programs will show you behind the scenes data / footage like this 😏 Very critical to success
Everything is usually kept hush hush 🤫 This team (Real Street, FFRE, MSR, Plaza, Manley, ARP, OneE, etc.) have literally turned this into an art 💯 I & many others I’m sure are extremely grateful for this footage / critical data
How’s it feel to be one of the people taking the platform further?
Great video Ford power forever baby keep on doing the great work you fellas do congratulations on your win and proving to everyone just how great the Ford engine is
MMR has made over 4,000 rwhp with a 351 in³ billet block and GT350 heads. 5.67 @ 265mph
@@chadkent1241 billet block*** 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@chadkent1241 borowski billet LS engine made 4500 btw
Great Vid and a real eye opener to those who don't know of believe...Coyote The World!!!
Another great motor from Ford motor company!!!
Great video!!
Love your channel!!
As a S197 owner, huge fan of Bret! And Snot Rocket!!
I have fell in love with the coyote for sure my 2019 has a 5.0 and for 300ci amazed me the capability of it
@@bigboreracing356 I’m pushing 280k on my coyote. I’ve only had to replace the water pump. Maintenance is key.
Cleetus pinched a boost line and it cost him a motor. The coyote is a monster ! Thanks for the view!
“Idk what to do with my hands”😅😂 the guys on the left and right nervous as hell!
Since the engine is tore down and you are upgrading some parts to make it stronger you should upgrade from the wire in the block and the receiver groove in the heads you should upgrade to the top fuel hoops so you know for a fact that the heads are completely sealed to the block and I would put billet main caps in it as well and maybe eventually go to an aftermarket block but if you don't have Darton sleeves in your current block I would do that as well and make your current block completely bullet proof and that way you know you always have a great back up engine for when you do build an engine with an aftermarket block and heads
Kudos to these guys for what they've accomplished but personally I f'n hate modular v8's, but they do make some power lol.
this car and crew is always a beast do work
Not to take anything away from the Coyote but MMR were getting 3400hp from a 4.6L (281ci) years ago and running 5s all season long on the same engine. 4.6 mod motor was no joke if you know what your doing.
MMR never got 3400hp from a 4.6. MMR was running a sleeved and filled 5.4 based motor with billet crank and it was around 3000hp. They have been running a billet coyote block motor for the past few years. Mihovetz was was running a stock 4.6 block making around 3000hp.many years ago.
Mmr is a joke. Make great shit for themselves, sell snake oil and garbage to the consumer
And this block is t filled like MMR and Johns race engines were either, take away the fill and poof...ashes
@@young11984 mihovetz blocks weren't filled. Just MMR
@@mikealbert728 I know the decks were welded solid but no fill as you say, that's interesting. I remember reading about them balancing the cams, the amount of harmonics was crazy.
Y’all gotta try out that new 7.3 Godzilla engine and do some development on that
Would LOVE to see them play with a 'Zilla - but I think Jay may be allergic to pushrods LOL
So "Real St McFlurry" then😂
??? when did he blow up the f150?
Nah the coyote is way better for peak power. DOHC is king.
Very interesting teardown and discussion, love the methodical and scientific approach to building and modifying this Coyote engine. The horsepower and torque numbers are far beyond what I thought was possible for this relatively small displacement DOHC V8. The fact that the engine is in such good condition after all the runs at this ridicules power level is a testament not only to the original design but the modifications, setup and tuning. The broken cam cap could have been a manufacturing defect since the others were fine. Great work, thanks for sharing this video.
@@bigboreracing356 From the description of the build that was not the case.
Great video!! Loved the way you all explained everything!!
That camshaft cap could have had an impurity in it the whole time, maybe having an extremely thin layer over it that eventually wore through and allowed it to break free, it could have had a porous area, basically having many many extremely small gas bubbles in the casting, or instead of gases, it could have been aluminum oxides, which are so hard they can be used as the grit on sand paper, it also could be that it was not treated properly and it had internal stresses, which can be amplified by heating and cooling, a combination of things like internal stresses, heat and cooling cycles, high rpm, fast changing vibrations, with an impurity that expands at a different rate than the parent metal and it can start a crack which ends in heartbreak when its on a connecting rod 😢
Real pros. And I guess FORD no longer stands for Found On Roadside Dead these days?
When they are you can usually look back at owners maintenance or EPAs required junk that causes constant issues. That engine would pass an emissions test as good as one with all the mandated garbage, get better mpg and longevity imo
Cap broke first then the load went to the next cap and overwhelmed it.
Are they factory ford primary guides and tensioners?
Things have progressed such along way since the old foxbody 5.0 push rod bock design.
I’ve been waiting for this video.
Lol at the butt hurt Chevy boys in the comments.
Great build. Thank you for the updates. Looking forward to your next race win. 😎
I love engine builds ❤
I looked for the stage 4 coyote engine on the website is it available?
Would love to see a 2900whp dyno run 😮
I like how Jay is wearing a Supra shirt while helping them.
Good Ear Mr. Brett. Saved it !
Brett had on the now and later gators 🐊
Chains and brains!
I run the Ls Next aluminum block which is aftermarket and for you to make that kind of power with just changing really a few things is crazy. I’ve not had no problems really either I’ve got a pretty solid program and I think it’s a testiment to your program and how good those engines really are. That’s pretty much what you have to do is go slow and have data everywhere and see what’s going on record it before it’s pushed but dammit man brava on keeping it together and running good awesome job guys.
lean on the Cam cap clearance
Braze weld a skirt support too the bottom of the bore. Quarter inch addition would do it
I think I heard you fellows mention a billet cam bearing cap. I am pretty sure if you look it up they will not wear as good as the cast silicon aluminum.
Update..... now a 6.33 @ 225mph
Blue loctite the balancer and flywheel. just put it on all mating surfaces outside the fasteners. As well as fasteners.
Awesome video! Thanks guys!
Great video! Joe / FFRE sure make a good engine!
I would like to see how far we can go with the GT350 5.2 Engine I don't see much out there that push the block on the 5.2.
5.0L, 5.2L predator or voodoo are pretty much the same.
Awesome!! Good stuff
Need a “100%” shirt made
It was like watching an episode of ER.
Sooo awesome.
Any thought on a timing belt conversion?
The guy talking about seats knows his shit!
Fords 4valve head, modular engine design has been around for decades!!
Exactly why Ford is dominating, this class!!
Over head cam design, is fair superior!! To push rod motors,
Ford is decades ahead of its competitors!!!
Snot Rocket is proof of just that!!!
Not to mention Ford Mustang has never missed a production year, since it’s introducing!!!
The other car companies can’t say that!! About their performance cars!!
That's a long long way from my old pushrod 302 :)
I would say it’s time for billet cam caps.
I'm imagining destroking it, then revving that bad boy up to 9k.
Is this the motor out of green snot?
Yes
What's really amazing is GTR's making that kinda power with ac, full interior, power steering, power windows, all glass, and with only 6 CYLINDERS!!!!,😮
2jz and RB still kill the Mustang.
@@definitionmedia1130 Stock for stock, no it doesn't. Mod for mod, it all varies on what you do.
Hi why don't you make the sleeves a bit longer so it doesn't hurt the pistons so much? Really cool build, what would this spec engine cost?
I don't think there's enough clearance to the crank to allow it.
Outstanding !
A+ video, very informative 👌🏾
Great video, lots of information. Great engine.
Very cool tech info - seen this car run at Orlando - definite beast.
Ford , and
Ford performance vehicles in Australia, sold a few different badged/model cars with a factory supercharged coyote engine!! (315kw) (Ford Australia developed the supercharger kit)
The code name for them is 'Miami'
I have seen them get 500+rwhp with just a Bigger water/air intercooler and pulley change (not the party one)
You are Guaranteed to find them here in Australia..
Happy hunting. Lol
Congrats to those guys putting the time and effort and money into making that coyote into what it is never really seen a lot of crazy horsepower 5.0s
What a great video. Thanks
Had same failure running 2000hp boss 2013 engine. The problem was not enough oil pressure going over there.
This is great. Thank you 🙏
Curious question for you guys at Real St. I see you do K20 Honda builds and Coyote Ford builds. Have you ever done a EA888 VW build?
Jay is a GD legend!!! #REALS**T!!
Why does he talk about ring tension?
You can buy low tension rings for competition.
Then there is the gas bypass that push the rings onto the bore (gas porting for instance).
Dohc pentroof vs Ohc hemi🤔
it time to move full billet aluminum block
It's hard to tell but is this block sleeved?
At that power level, I'd assume it's sleeved.
They said “stock block, crank and head castings” it looks stock to me
@@young11984it's hard to tell just looking cause the deck isn't clean. The stock predator has plasma sprayed bores.
Yes its sleeved
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. That not a Coyote engine. That is a Predator engine. They even said it's a GT 500 block that means it's a Predator based engine not full Gen3 Coyote based. I understand that it's still a ford performance block but facts are facts.
Not a mustang guy couldn't really care less,BUT from its teacher Jay in class..I have to sit my ass DOWN...
maybe one day you'll understand the make and model is irrelevant and you can stand to learn a lot from anything
@Varg as I said from its Teacher Jay...could be a bycicle...
Jay's super Jelly 😂. 👌 come to the dark side
Mill couple thousand of all the head gasket surface that isn’t needed. this increases clamp on the areas that matter
Great content 👍🏼
Never to much power.....or is there?
Informative
100%.
Excellent video!🤟❤
Ford power ftw 💪🇺🇲
65 PSI isn’t crazy lol
Amazing motor 💪
Excellent video TY....what tranny do you run in SR ? Curious after video
Murder nova you need this setup for your f150
he’s got a whipple on his
What fuel is used to run that type of boost ###?
Dude looks like a thinner Justin Swanstorm even uses a torque wrench the same way that's crazy I bet he gets a lot of 🐱 too!