Mean Gene: Preserving & Regenerating Cannabis Legacy Genetics / Derek Gilman / Ganjier
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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"We might start seeing cultivars we haven't seen in decades coming out."
Renowned cannabis breeder & cultivator Mean Gene of Mendocino joins Ganjier Director Derek Gilman for an in-depth discussion on preserving and resurrecting legacy and heirloom cannabis genetics using seed and tissue culture regenerative techniques.
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Just wanted to give a shout out to this channel for making such awesome and informative material for those of us who love the details of it ALL!!! Thank you! ✌️
Greetings from an old guerrilla gardener in Europe ! 🙏
You are happy over there in CA - nobody hassles you, and you can persue your work freely !
Be grateful for that !
Great stuff. Always going to pull ups a chair when Mean Gene is talking. Thank you :)
Big up Chad!
Respect.
Real knowledge of the jungle, far from the naive & narrow lab knowledge of the concrete jungle mindset.
Big up Jackson man
This really makes me regret throwing seeds, and i threw hundreds of seeds back in the day. They were all fantastic strains that possibly don't exist anymore, at least i never stumbled upon them again. And everyone i talk to, they all miss those old strains as well, nobody can find such weed again. We had weeds with a truly psychedelic effect, like an acid or mushroom trip, and they were not sprayed or anything like that, back then weed was as natural as it can be. There were many strains with this psychedelic effect, and they all offered something different. We never knew what strains were they, we just called them Skunk if they were trippy, i don't know why, some urban misconceptions probably. But if it smelled strong and had a trippy effect, everyone called it Skunk. And it was never about tolerance either, because the Skunk was a rare special treat that you couldn't always find and it costed more money, everyone was grabbing it as soon as it showed up and quickly got sold. In between the Skunks we smoked a lot of regular weed with standard effects and our tolerance was high, so it was definitely 100% the strains that gave this effect. And even older smokers acknowledged the trippyness of the Skunks. But just to make sure, these were most likely not Skunk strains, these were probably some landrace Sativas that flowered for more than 16-18 weeks and grew few meters in height, because back then most of it was grown outdoor.
Nowdays i even read on forums, many people are searching for these strains and it seems impossible to find. Younger generations or people who just started smoking in the last 10-15 years, they never even experienced these strains. They say: ''Weed is not psychedelic, i never had a psychedelic trip on weed, you probably had a low tolerance, bla bla bla...'' they just never smoked the old-school stuff. And most of the strains on the market are crosses that offer non-psychedelic effects, for example calming, soothing, relaxing, creative, energizing, sleepy etc. etc.
There is only one strain that really emphasizes a psychedelic effect and that's LSD by Barney, but i haven't grown it yet so i'll have to try. But i don't expect much, i heard people say that it's just a standard high, and the psychedelic phenotype is very rare. If someone isolated the trippy pheno that would be great.
Please let me know of any psychedelic strain you know from experience that produces a consistent trippy effect everytime, i want to gather all the information and begin a project finding those familiar effects again.
Dude! The trippy connotation You said in that rad story that took me waaay back, now im remembering, definitely feeling something very outstanding about some of the smoke we ran across in the mid 90s that surely just convinced me years later that i had only felt that stupidly high because i was a newbie.. Come to think of it, it had to have been a way more potent something-or-other that grabs you by the brain and tweaks your ape-sh7t melon. Climbin trees for no reason across the street from PD and getting lost in the middle of town for hours. Lmao gotta bring that stuff back for sure!
Quite convinced we were truly getting mexi schwag, orange hair, red hair,... All super compressed n smashed seeds, sadly abused but still smokeable if you can get the shells and seed meat all out. I recall a 10lb brick of that stuff when i was 19. Paid a pretty penny for it, broke it up and sorted by hand every quarter and rolled lots of joints. I broke even, six months later pushin hard enough to skirt trouble but delivery and discounts became costly. I was so sick of brick weed by the end of that run that i was really glad to see the hydro and high grade start showing up! My fave was still the purple thai from overseas! Clogged my receptors right up, i tell ya! Lol
@@newfreenayshaun6651 I believe you, i've heard others say the same about Mexican brick weed. Unfortunately i haven't tried Mexican (at least i think so) because i'm from Europe and we got other sources. And usually this weed had beautiful buds, not bricked. The buds were very fluffy and soft, with lots of orange hairs, and the smell was extremely potent, with hints of lemon.
But back then strains were just different, there's no way around it. And it's definitely not about the tolerance, don't let the new smokers get to you lol! Back then i was a teenager and i knew 30-year old smokers who were smoking every day for the past 15 years, they were also fighting to get these psychedelic strains. Oooh if i could find those strains again i would be the happiest person on the planet!
Love and Respect from South Africa
I have original white widow mom from 1996. Seeds were bought from Ingemar himself. I recently popped a few strawberry cough from Kyle kushman that were 15 years old got 2 keepers out of 20 seeds. Only 8 grew. I hope someone in here has a strain or strains long forgotten.
I have beans from 2002 but they won't pop. Had 100s have most away n my stash is the same, just won't pop. I tried every which what way u could think of. Had to hit up seedsman for new stuff
@@dmo848 try full moon water it's energy is explosive. Much Love
Half of my pheno hunts are always dipping into the old stuff I've saved throughout the years stuff from 02-06 were the golden years 💯
Idk man. I think it could preserve flavor profiles. But potency can't be on the same level.
You are going to get a lot of replies from the older growers 😆
@Smokin Plantaz yep I'd rather pick weed out blindfolded going off just smell then anything else look and effects are definitely after smell n taste💯
@Smokin Plantaz I agree usually. I wish people just bred unique flavors into the high thc over the years. Now they can distill terps from low thc and add it to thc in extracts.
@@TheDabEnthusiastGaming It's the terpenes and cannabinoids that matter the most. Each terpene and each cannabinoid gives a different effect, and the combinations of them can have a vast number of different effects. Medium THC with great effects is better than a high THC with crappy effects. Personally i'd rather take a 15% THC Sativa strain to make me energized, creative and trippy, than a 30% THC Indica to make me lazy and put me to sleep. And i prefer Limonene and Pinene terpenes, they are stimulating the mind more than Myrcene or Linalool terpenes for example. I'm not a big fan of sedative, relaxing and sleepy strains, i like the psychedelic stuff.
And usually the nature makes everything balanced, the best strains normally don't have extremely high THC numbers, otherwise they would be too OP :)
That's why weeds with milder effects have more THC to compensate, it's all Universal balance :)
Happy 4/20/22! Second legal season begins for me! Many thanks to these fine folks, I'm benefitting well! Today at 4:20pm, a friend of mine will be making history opening the first cannabis store in a government borne town! Tell mom I stay high, be good to your buds, sharing is caring! Uncle Derek rocks! Would love some skunky stuff, narrowed down on what I've had available and have several favorites in the ground now! Lovin the White Widow and lemon meringue kush! So much hash! Lmao. Cant wait to meet you fam! Savin up!
Ioved this
You guys are so on it.
I love all these videos. So much education in them. Thank you
awesome ! mene gene is the man! :)
Fascinating.
Interesting topic!!
Got some landrace seeds about 6 yrs a go, as a young fascinated grower in JA. Crossed it and created a hybrid. And the strain is so powerful and unique, I’m glad I saved them and did something spectacular. Grateful for these videos. Very informative 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I want to learn cannabis tissue culturing.
Mainly what I need to learn is to make the agar mix and how to be more cleanly so no mold or disease doesn't take over.
Love all the knowledge and great guests. Can't wait to attend a class one day🤘💚
I kind of had the same issue with some beans that barely popped a tail but then stopped so good to know there are ways you can go to get them up and running 🏃♂️
Ive been doing Skunk#1,1985NL#5,Nepalese highland×Jamica'85;Haze's,RoadkillSkunk,NL×Skunk,Kaboom,And Hindu Kush😁.i've been breeding for over 20 yrs.🙌Outdoors🌻🌲whose doin't like this?!;get at me
Last year, first legal gh grow.. 10/1-10/14Lemon meringue kush, 1.2lbs plus 120g full melt hash... White Widow 10/1-17hvst 18oz dry plus 90g fmhsh, A++).. Cannalope Haze(stv), late Nov, 2.4lbs plus some bomb ass scissor hash(lol)... Fruity pebbles og -sat, nov harvst, 2.5lb plus 150g 2 grades, looks edible hehehe! -6500ft northern NM in native dirt, plastic covered gh with added late season heater, much more resilient than common tomato plants by 3 weeks of cold beyond most veg life! Ridiculous! For sativa no less! Trichs seem to be unaffected per the consensus. My people are in good shape. Happy 4/20!
Do you still have a real road kill skunk? I've been searching for years.
@@hortstu4734 Yes i do Sir!;Ive been breeding in the shadows per say.;Obvserverving all the novices that dont know there as$ from there elbow calling themselves masters.😂I've been patient...waiting to unleash the goods that will expose the whole industry😂💣🔥.Anybody who is serious to collaborate with me will annihilate the Market!!!🌎🍃
@@hortstu4734 and the original Bubblegum strains🍦Stu...🇺🇸
@@johnsondon8145 in no no position to breed or preserve ATM but preservation was always my thing. Any chance I know you from one of the old forums?
Gotta love the good vibes and positivity Derek gives off
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Cheers boys, happy holidaze.
This one hits close to home man 😑
_(I inherited my grandfather's seed collection from the mid to late 70s...and MAYBE 1/200 seeds will germinate because I didn't store them in my freezer like he did)_
Man my entire seed collection is stored in a bedroom drawer. Hope it's ok. Decades of work I plan on running one day. All my skunk crosses are in there.
The won't last forever in there
Look up how to properly store seeds in a fridge without moisture. It's never too late to start storing. The more you wait each day, the more your seeds are getting ruined. Maybe each day 1 seed dies, you never know lol.
I put them in a good cool dry place for now. I'm waitong till 420 and ordering new lights. Guess I'm gona start pheno hunting some of them seeds.
Weevils got mine years back. Shame.
Don't pop em all. Like Gene said they may have viability however embryo rescue is your best bet for a chance with seeds 10+ years old.
Same furniture an same clothes from a year ago awesome good one love it I think dont know what video I'm only few months in so I am sure not long ago I seen this 🤔🤯
Gotta bump it up for the newbies, growmie. Itll be fine. We need that army informed! Lol
@@newfreenayshaun6651 Love it
Great stuff as said by others. A question I have is what is best way to store seed over time?
Storing seeds in a dark refrigerated environment (about 40 degrees Fahrenheit) without thawing or temperature/humidity fluctuations is the optimal way to store cannabis seeds.
The best way to store seeds is to give them to me, i'll keep them safe. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I have tons of seeds from 20 yrs ago. I don't think it's anything special also. But my stuff I got now is 100 times better.
Send a few old seed this way n come try my first White Widow, excellent stuff!
Great video. Very enjoyable but technically a "landscape" f1 should be very similar to it's parents. Land races may/ should have some variation within the population but they're in bred lines/ populations.
The war on drugs deserves the most credit for the elimination of most of the original genetics. It forced amateur/ hobby breeders to do 1x1 crosses and small population breeding and made preservation all but impossible without risking years or decades of freedom.
Some of the breeders from the 90s and 2000s also polluted or eliminated land race strains by introducing their "improved" cultivars to the places where they evolved without interference for 100s or even thousands of years.
"Landscape" was auto corrected from "land race"
I really miss those 90s Mexican cultivars, from before the Dutch Invasion lol. Between OG and Cookies it's getting a little boring in the mainstream market