NEW Silca Chain Waxing System + Strip Chip Clean & Wax Chain At Once
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Silca has two hot new products: the Chain Waxing System that melts wax and features an integrated hanger for drip drying, and the Strip Chip additive that removes factory grease from a chain. The big leap forward here is that the Strip Chip can be used as part of the waxing process, instead of a separate, preliminary degreasing step.
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Hey all - as some of you have pointed out, I neglected to say that this chain was on a new test bike. Silica’s intention with the Strip Chip is for cleaning off the factory grease, not using it as an all-purpose cleaner. My apologies and thanks to those who have pointed this out. 👍
This is a very important caveat. I was wondering about how it could do that.
So, what's the process if I am intended to wax a used dirty chain that has never been waxed ? Thanks in advance
here is another scenario: I put on a new chain some miles ago, but it hasn't had to be lubed yet. Is it new enough to use the Strip Chip or should I go with the Super Secret chain stripper first?
@@gleejb I have done that with a couple chains on test bikes now, yeah - done a couple rides with the factory grease and then dumped the chain in there.
Can I buy the system from you?
I'm kinda confused. I thought to strip chip was for removing factory grease. This doesn't appear to be a new chain, so the strip-chip (and the 125c bath) shouldn't be needed? Just a standard wax bath at 75c ?
Darn. Strip Chip is actually designed to get the factory grease off new chains. Was really hoping to see that in action.
A few minutes, agitate, and repeat until clear in simple gasoline is way cheaper and efficient
it doesn't actually get it off, it allows it to gel and harden like wax would
This is game changing. Woke up. Melted Silva wax. Added strip chip. Degreased and waxed a SRAM 12 speed, and with another strip chip a KMC 12 speed Aurora. Done in an hour, no worry about fussing with a crock pot. Both chains perfect. Now I have my rotation, good for a couple of months. This has opened waxing for me and my waxed chains are SO SMOKTH AND QUIET. And chain checker shows no wear.
I believe that one strip chip is good for up to six chains.
This looks amazing for someone who's wanted to wax but has been confused on the process. Question though - how about for redoing the wax? Just do the process without the strip chip, or is there a cleaning process that needs to be done?
@@jerheck If your already waxed chain is dirty enough that wiping it off with a Silca Microfiber will not remove a majority of the dirt and grit, then you can remove the chain from your bike and rinse it with hot water, then re-wax it.
Victor Campanaerts has a video on his channel in which he demonstrates his chain waxing process, and says that he usually wipes it off with a microfiber before rewaxing and that is usually enough.
Good enough for a TDF stage winner and former World Hour Record holder, that's good enough for me.
I love a good chain protocol.
1:28 Don't scare me! I thought you need to put the puppy in the heater as well 🤣
Glad Silva is sponsoring great journalism! In terms of this product, I have one on the way. I REALLY like that it is temp controlled; with the crockpot or instapot I have had the wax get too hot, so ensuring it won’t do that with this product was worth it. For my money, it would have been amazing if this was a little bit bigger and had a sonic cleaner integrated into it.
I think you’ll find that “great journalism” and “sponsorship” is a contradiction.
My model is this: I have sponsors peripheral to the bikes and gear that I review - helmets, clothes, maintenance, nutrition, tools, shoes - and I do not review products in those categories. I list those sponsors in every video description - Silca is one of them - and when they have new stuff I'll talk about it. Support from these sponsors then allows me to freely cover and review bikes and gear without taking money.
Please ask questions if you have any about this model or other models at various bike magazines or websites. I'm happy to yammer on at length about this as it's important!
Yeah, I didn’t reply to Harry because it felt like a troll trap. However, since you replied, I think understanding the bike journalism space in terms of layoffs and AI generated content, etc., that good journalists are out there trying to pay the rent and stay influence free in their reporting (e.g., escape collective). While I agree that “sponsorship” equates to a conflict of interest, as things stand right now, I will go on the “best evidence” in terms of choosing who to trust. Going out on your own like you are Ben with the ride indicates a certain integrity that justifies accepting that to get this free content, sponsors are needed to pay the bills. I hope your channel is successful and honestly that people get behind small, independent journalism. Without people power, we can expect bicycle repeated info to be complete crap-which the Ride is not.
@@michaellambert2821 why did you think it was a troll trap? FWIW I was a journalist for more than 30 years. I even worked for a while for a cycling magazine. I’m a big fan of Ben’s content. He’s head and shoulders above most cycling RUclipsrs but there are risks when you’re dealing with blatant snake oil salesmen like Silca. It’s no coincidence that Silca is doing deals with so many “cycling influencers”. Silca sell grossly overpriced products and need gullible people to buy them. The most cost effective way to do this is through sponsorship.
Congrats on the collab !
Thanks! Just picked one up! Thanks for the 10% code!
soon - silca's table for waxing, silca's air freshener for better waxing, silca's special spotify set list for better waxing (5$ only), silc'a "waxer of the year" jersey!
Yay for puppies! Love both Cora and Mabel - wife us going with Mabel. You’re the best thing on RUclips, Ben!
We named her Mabel. Cheers!
Puppies always get more clicks 😁 Love it! Great videos always BD! I like chain waxing and puppies 😂 lol
Thanks for showing what Josh didn't on his Strip Chip introduction video. I had assumed the Secret Chain Wax was used in the melting pot for this process, but wasn't sure, as it was designed to go in any pot of boiling water. The pot seems a bit pricey, but between the precise temp settings, chain hanger, and countdown timer, not to mention Slica quality. I guess it's to be expected.
That said, can you reuse the melted wax (and hardened wax shavings off the cooled chain) for subsequent chain waxings, and if not, how many waxings do you get from one bag of Secret Chain Wax?
For me using Silca’s liquid chain stripper and a drip wax is much easier and Silca says it’s 95-98% as effective as hot wax.
Now if only you could buy one!!
Exactly.
Puppy is way more interesting than the never-ending wax/lube debate.
Mabel is our dog’s name. Great choice. Oh, and thanks for sharing info about this new product. 😉
I have a bit of organic chemistry background. I suspect the factory oil/grease is soluble in wax, as well as the other way around. Not sure the strip chip does anything other than give you something else to buy. Ive been on the waxing your chain bandwagon for a couple of years now and I suspect we never really needed to deep clean factory grease off a new chain to begin with.
Prolly makes sense to clean the chain if it has been used though.
What do you do with the residue after waxing?
Ben, do you need a chip for a previously used chain? I understood the chip to remove the factory grease.
I believe that a "dirty" chain containing regular chain lube should be degreased before waxing. If your chain has been waxed before, you can usually just wipe the chain off with Silca's microfiber cloth or a similar lint-free microfiber cloth before re-waxing. If the previously waxed chain is really grimy, clean it with hot water before rewaxing. If there is a strip chip in your wax, it will not hurt a previously waxed chain. Hope that answers all of your questions. Cheers!
puppy strip and clean chip is in the works.
is the power cable removable?
Puppies for the win!
Garage looks great.
“Honey…. Its time to wax more chains, we have to go get another puppy.” “I’ll get my coat!”
I'm riding a gravel bike in dusty conditions (let's call it Tahoe Moon Dust) and have followed the instructions. At mile 40 the chain starts to make a horrid (dry) sound....anyone have any thoughts, or feedback to suggest?
will their be a more in-depth review and explanation? and some testing results?
I'll certainly be using it and talking it about it more. For the best info, I'd suggest checking on the text and videos on Silca's site. To be clear, Silca is one of my sponsors this year. So, just like with Castelli clothing and First Endurance nutrition products, etc, I won't be testing Silca product head-to-head with competitors like I do with bikes and wheels and tires and gear. That's just a conflict of interest. Hope that makes sense!
Nice job as usual Ben! Nothing like a waxing video to get the trolls all stirred up. LOL!
the dog doesn't lie
I hereby request a video of you, Alexey, and the dogs on a ride.
Glad waxing is 'becoming' more mainstream...
I think I'd agitate the chain a couple of times at least - say a minute or so each - before i'd trust that the hot wax had displaced the factory grease. I'd like to know what effect the strip chip has on the wax if you aren't putting in a previously stripped chain.
I put my new chain inside the dishwasher for a few cycles before waxing. It works great.
Lol
Good tip
I take mine to the dry cleaner. Works great
I drape the chain around my neck in the shower. Never had a problem. ;)
How many uses do you get out of that pot of wax? It's currently out of stock. The system is $100, wax $40 and stripper $24, so it's a bit of an investment, especially compared to a bottle of degreaser and a bottle of chain lube.
Buy a wax pot for $20 on Amazon and I have been using the same wax for the last couple of years.
Why over complicate a simple task at a significant cost. Surely one’ wife has a old wax burner around, purchase a block of wax for pennies (if that obsessed with performance also purchase some PTFE Powder -that will last years) and have yourself a fully functional set up at a fraction of the cost.
Stripping new chains is as simple as using gasoline. Clean them in between waxing with simple green.
"The system is $100, wax $40 and stripper $24, so it's a bit of an investment, "
BINGO! Here's your cigar! Josh isn't dumb, long ago he figured out how many pumps, tool sets, etc. he could sell and realized the limits, especially when the stuff is excellent quality (unless it's stolen you'll be handing it down to your grandchildren) so CONSUMABLES are the answer if you want to stay in business.
What escapes me is the time/effort/expense used by Joe/Jill Crankarm to extend the life of a component that's destined to wear-out, is easily replaced and relatively cheap - new 12 speed chains are what, $50 via online merchants? Perhaps people just like to play around in their garage? I'd rather be riding so "old school" oil's just fine with me. Chains getting close to 1/2 worn-out simply get replaced. Cogs/chainrings seem to last forever. KMC digital chain-checker and pair of quick-link pliers are all I need.
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 Every single one of you guys who are not into waxed chains knew exactly what this video was about and still watched and commented. If waxing is not for you great but those of us that do don’t care what you think. We decided a long time ago that it makes sense for us and this is just another option for us to consider. Have a great day.
Guilty as charged. I watched to see how deep into the cult Ben would go and please notice my comment was on a comment someone else made about the expense involved. I'm familiar with long-time wax-cult members, a few of whom burned down their shop or garage with this voodoo practice. Wax whatever you want (chain, legs, mustache, bikini area, etc.) but be careful!@@pandatactical4530
Looks easy even I can do it
Cora (there already is a Mabel on RUclips - as in Mabel and Olive)
Mabel and Olive videos are masterpieces.
IS it true the strip chip is exactly the same as cooking oil/grease solidifiers??
i was gonna go buy the kit right now, and its already sold out. bummer
This is probably okay for new chain with factory grease. Ain't no way this is going to work if I put in dirty used chain without cleaning with water and soap first.
Where does the grease/lube that's on a used chain go with the Strip Chip? Does it just end up in the wax? I love my Silca waxed chains for summer. Clean and like no wear at all.
The strip chip displaces the factory grease and converts it to a form of grease that's compatible with the wax. They're saying the process is called oleogelation. They're also saying each chip will convert two factory chains.
I don't really have a problem with the regular old stripping/cleaning process so I probably won't bother.@@robertwhyte3435
Anyone can advise on corresponding settings for equal temperature on the InstantPot pressure cooker?
She looks like a Delores.
Back on topic, does the strip chip reduce the number of wax applications you get from a bag of wax?
Seen a few videos where people are incorrectly using this on old chains.
Here's a dog name I know you'll love: Embarko
will it improve my FTP if I consume a chip ?
new wax kitchen equipment
My wife and and kids say she looks like a Mable.
Which do I say more: “step” or “ten”? Somebody get me an editor! 😅
Do you know when they are going to have more in stock? Apparently this video caused them to be sold out and placed on back order.
I don't know but I will ask.
Back in stock now.
I'll stick to old school lube/oil. Also, Maybel is a great name for your dog. :-)
Mabel it is!
Mabel
What is difference between two packages of wax on the right (your left)? Same thing in a different package?
They're the same
Great video as always, this was a much needed review for the new waxing system. I appreciate it.🎉
I humbly vote Cora
I like Cora for her name
This is the second video I'm seeing today where the strip chip isn't being used properly. It's for removing factory grease only, not a one stop shop for all degreasing and waxing needs.
Thanks for clarifying! I should have said that chain was on a new bike. Dang it.
Yes Big Ben you should have 😢😞
How many uses will you get out of the wax and chip before you need to change it for new?
One chip is for stripping the oil based lube off of one chain. You can use 6 chips to strip 6 chain before the wax is too contaminated to continue using as I understand. If you are just relaxing an already waxed chain you don't use a chip you just put it in the wax.
@@graemehill but how many times can you use the same wax with one chain? Before you need to put fresh wax in the pot
@@faultlinegravel not sure what their recommendation is but as long as you don't put really dirty chains in there you probably just keep using it indefinitely and add more wax as needed. My strategy is to go until there's hardly any wax left in the pot and then start over with clean wax. It's been over a year and still on my first batch of wax from a single silca wax packet.
Ok, the question on many's minds.....If I put more Strip Chips into the hot wax, will the wax be harder and last longer? Thank you for your reply @Ben. ALSO, Please don't wax the quick links.....because they're harder to connect.
I read Josh from Silca comment that you can use the 6 strip chips per 500g bag of wax. so as long as you don't need to strip more chains, you can use that wax indefinitely.
hmmm still a slow cooker seems better for waxing chains. I can drop 3 chains easy in my slow cooker 🤔.
The dog should be named Silka so when you call for her you shout Silka. Guess Silca should sponsor her dog food.
We named her Mabel, and Silca is helping pay for her food and mine. 😀
name your dog Silca
i I don't get it, how are the contaminants actually removed if they are simultaneously mixed in with the wax by not having a first step where the chain is cleaned? Assuming here that the system is meant for fairly clean chains already?
They aren’t removed but a process called Oleogelation converts the grease to a much harder, wax like substance. This substance looks very similar to paraffin and therefor doesn’t need to be removed.
StripChip is for new, factory-greased chains.
Thank you for the detailed reply.@@travisverhoff8120
Cora...!
Mable
Mabel it is!
I vote for: Kora or Cora or Quora 👍
Mabel!!
Mabel!
Done.
Mable is easier to yell... 👍🏼
Hehe. We went with Mabel. Maaaaaay-bellllll!
@TheRidewithBenDelaney I have Bear, Bella, Caster, Geronimo and an Opal.
You will be good. 💜
Why don´t you name the dog girl Silca? ;)
Blah, blah, blah, sold out already.
Sponsors are how I make a living, and are what allow me to do honest reviews on bikes and gear. I don't review or pretend to review the sponsored product, but I will tell you about new stuff from them - and of course disclose where the money is coming from in every single video. How do you make a living?
It’s no coincidence that the snake oil salesmen at Silca are sponsoring so many RUclipsrs. The profit margins are huge when you target the gullible. How many new KMC chains could you buy for the price of this lot
The landscape of cycling product has become ridiculous. All of this nonsense to eek out a few thousand more miles from a $35 chain. What are we doing!?
I don't care about that. I care about having my hands clean when I'm on a ride and not deap with oil and degreaseing
The cost of riding 10000 km using traditional lubes vs. the cost of riding them using a high quality wax is almost literally an order of magnitude higher.
At least in the parts of the world that actually have seasons. Going through 3 to 4 Record , Ekar or Dura-ace cassettes plus chains a year isn't exactly the kind of past-time I find enjoyable.
Also clean hands are nice.
Absolutely NOT ridiculous! Get your head out of the sand! The performance and maintenance gains are definitely a plus but the zero grease, dirt and grime are a game changer! Yea that tubeless thing will never catch on either!
A waxed chain is faster.
Your step 1 for a chain already on the bike wouldn’t use a strip chip. That is only for new chains and factory grease.
WASTE OF MONEY. Used car salesman
Mable
Mabel
Mabel
Done.