Let's Talk About Tape Machine Plugins

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
  • Lets check out some awesome tape machine plugins and hear what they do!
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Комментарии • 174

  • @jkrunch2166
    @jkrunch2166 5 лет назад +244

    Yo, I took your advise and made sure to avoid listening to this on my iphone. So I listened on my android instead and it sounds the same. 0/10

    • @RiffsAndBeards
      @RiffsAndBeards  5 лет назад +23

      HAHAHA

    • @MarvelJAM
      @MarvelJAM 5 лет назад +1

      @@RiffsAndBeards iPhone still would have sounded better than Android. ..... kidding

    • @CarcPazu
      @CarcPazu 5 лет назад +4

      @@MarvelJAM And Neil Peart would've played those drums much better.

    • @maxschmidtke7789
      @maxschmidtke7789 3 года назад

      If you know where to listen in the frequenzy range when he enables the plugins i think you will actually hear it even on iphone speakers. So i did.

    • @kaydeersa
      @kaydeersa 9 месяцев назад

      Hahahahahahahaha.. Unbelievable 🙆🏿‍♂️🙏🏿😂😭

  • @zachiejbrown
    @zachiejbrown 5 лет назад +56

    The lighting in this video is amazing, i think all your vids should be this lighting!

  • @mauricedibert2635
    @mauricedibert2635 5 лет назад +43

    Weird fact: modern tape machines all come from the magnetophone made to record A. Hitler. Richard Mullin an army officer after the war grabbed one, took it home and deconstructed it. Then built his tape recorder, got backing money from BIng Crosby and started Ampex.

    • @ectoplasma5
      @ectoplasma5 Год назад

      Also the Neumann mic cmv3 was used by Hitler,called the Htler bottle.

    • @user-mr6xp6nk7q
      @user-mr6xp6nk7q Год назад +1

      Leica Lenses, and cameras. For the SS

  • @NicholasGreenwood
    @NicholasGreenwood Год назад +3

    Revisiting this video in February 2023. Some of the UAD plug-ins are now available without needing an Apollo interface; Oxide and Studer included as I write this. I ran a trial of Oxide as an AU plug-in in Logic and it made an immediate difference on the mix bus. Very impressive!

  • @chronoshadow2611
    @chronoshadow2611 5 лет назад +10

    To my ears I liked the Ampex the most when applied to the final mix more than to the isolated tracks, really feel like testing some tape machines to see what results I can get

  • @hbomb495
    @hbomb495 5 лет назад +8

    I really liked how the Ampex smoothed everything out. When you first switched it on my first thought "you can call it a day".
    But the way the Oxide made the bass literally jump out and brought it to life won out overall for me.
    That said, you really couldn't go wrong with any of these, but if I had to choose. I'd go the Oxide for sure.

  • @eyesonly4451
    @eyesonly4451 5 месяцев назад +1

    It sounds all the same on my iPhone! ... Sorry, couldn't resist. But this is a perfect example of why I also gravitate toward the Oxide. It's a fictitious tape machine, but as such, it has been created by UA with the best characteristics of both the 102 and A800. Plus it's easy to use and tweak.

  • @ShredShed
    @ShredShed 5 лет назад +13

    Great video man, you content has been killer the past few weeks

  • @johnvdb5015
    @johnvdb5015 5 лет назад +3

    So the Ampex is a stereo 2 track machine emulation, so I use that on my mix bus. And I always track through the oxide tape in console, to simulate tracking to 24 track tape. Cuz the oxide and studer are 24 track machines.

  • @lukebogartmix
    @lukebogartmix 5 лет назад +3

    Ampex was pretty great all-purpose, a nice thickening of the low-mids, the Studer was the warmest and definitely would be good for softening and warming up harsher tracks, and the Oxide definitely had that bump in the lows, but almost felt like it got a bit more v-shaped and compressed? Pretty colorful, but definitely cool and usable!

  • @paulfrank9047
    @paulfrank9047 4 года назад +7

    You have to remember that distorted guitars are already heavily compressed, so the tape saturation is definitely more subtle (since it’s compressing a sound that’s already compressed) than on an all acoustic recording. I think the mix is solid with or without the tape plugins. Nice track dude.

  • @jasonanderson8102
    @jasonanderson8102 5 лет назад +2

    Listened on my Powerbeats pro. Obviously not anything close to real critical listening, but I thought the studer sounded the best. It made everything punch but also felt the most transparent.

  • @JakeBlaze
    @JakeBlaze 5 лет назад +3

    Really love these recent videos your putting out. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @SocialGore
    @SocialGore 5 лет назад +4

    The thumbnail made me feel like you were about to tell me you're not my real Dad

  • @eoak134
    @eoak134 5 лет назад +4

    I really liked how the Studer rolled back some of the mid and high end. Just my 2 cents..

  • @kamilsliw19941
    @kamilsliw19941 5 лет назад +12

    Possibly best lighting job you’ve ever done. Looks great!

  • @LHSBuster
    @LHSBuster 5 лет назад +2

    The result reminded me a bit of the BBE SonicMaximizer 382i, especially with the Oxide Tape.

  • @mrparkinson
    @mrparkinson 5 лет назад +10

    That third tape emulation was just pinning to the max where the others were just entering the red. Its no wonder you were hearing more saturation from it.

  • @_war_cry
    @_war_cry 5 лет назад +2

    Since we are talking about saturation, it'd be awesome if you review the Harrison mix bus 32 c. I shifted to it from reaper and I was in love with what ever it was doing. Also reduced the number of plug ins I actually loaded to have about 2

  • @celula00959
    @celula00959 5 лет назад +1

    Ok correct me if I’m wrong
    The first gave the high end some pop and bite to it.
    The second one felt like I rounded the mix without making it muddy
    And the third one gave it like a lot of pop and saturation that you would Normally get by adding some high and mids yet it did not add high or mids to the mix
    They all sounds so unique that I don’t know what I prefer lol

  • @wheresallthezombies
    @wheresallthezombies 5 лет назад +2

    the waves one is pretty sweet but also the only one ive had experience with. these sound pretty awesome though. my favorite was the amex. it "feels" awesome, warms the track up, and rounds everything in a cool way.

  • @Rhuggins
    @Rhuggins 3 дня назад

    WOW, your intro music sounds unbelievably good. Whoa. Subscribed. Do you have any mix breakdowns/courses?

  • @SirMixAlotChannel
    @SirMixAlotChannel 3 года назад +1

    Oxide I loved (bottom end was the best) and the Amperex 2nd place. The Studer didn't have much color to me and transparent tape plugins make no sense in my situation. Buying Oxide now. Great Demo man! Thanks

  • @vektacular
    @vektacular 3 месяца назад

    The Oxford was fantastic

  • @dudearlo
    @dudearlo Год назад +1

    I put my DT770s into my iphone :)
    Im kinda feelin that Ampex, but if i couldnt use that one, id go with the oxide.
    I totally heard a difference.
    The tape emulation sort of brought the track to life a bit.
    Idk id its because it was perceived as “louder”. But it felt like it made a difference.
    Your track had me rockin out xD

  • @robertm8552
    @robertm8552 5 лет назад +4

    Fluff makes a great point about listening on an Iphone (which I am). I wonder if using such plugins, or even recording to tape, is worth it if it’s not going to sound much different through a device in which the majority of music is consumed nowadays. I think there’s definitely some value in it for fellow musicians, audiophiles, etc. but I don’t think it makes a difference to the common listener.

    • @Cjkd7048
      @Cjkd7048 3 года назад

      He meant like iphone speakers, and no most ppl don’t listen to music on those

    • @silentstormstudios
      @silentstormstudios Год назад

      @@Cjkd7048 Disagree. The typical person is listening on their phone or through cheap ear buds plugged into their phone. Next most likely scenario is a Bluetooth speaker or a stock car stereo. Applying this type of plugin isn’t going to make any difference to most people. The difference is so subtle and could be achieved through minor EQ and/or compression tweaks. I tried using a couple tape machine plugins on my last mix, but didn’t find any appreciable sonic benefit, even listening through studio headphones and monitors.

  • @nettydrone9100
    @nettydrone9100 3 года назад

    Thanks very much for helping us out. I have these and right now I am looking to get a non UAD tape plug. That is not because I don''t like UAD they are really GREAT. But, sometimes I am running out of UAD cpu, and that is why right now I am looking into NON UAD Tape plugs. But what I want to point out is that with these UAD plugs you are demoing - there is a TREMENDOUS range of impact by how they are set and there are HUGE differences in those settings! One really major is that you can set them with different types of magnetic tape for the emulation, and another major setting is of course the tape speed! - - Thanks man!

  • @JosephSmith-lm4ri
    @JosephSmith-lm4ri 5 лет назад

    Was listening on my phone so I wasn't getting the best sound quality, but i did notice a difference, all of them kind of brightened the sound and added a little bass, while one of them almost seemed to scoop a little mids with how present the treble and bass were.

  • @MrMoviePhoneEx
    @MrMoviePhoneEx 4 года назад

    To my ears, the Studer a800 felt more refined like a CD master, a little flat but very clean, while the Ampex felt almost like it was live and recorded from a line out on the actual mixer, more life-like but a bit chunky, while the oxide just felt like a heavy overdrive in an un-refined space, a great feel but messy overall especially with that bass guitar that just barely holds together. Nice demo, the active switching between plugs makes for a rough transition, but you got your point across :)

  • @Espuelérico
    @Espuelérico 3 года назад +1

    Im listening through and iphone and i can hear the difference, whoever can't need some ear yoga.

  • @secondsbeforelanding
    @secondsbeforelanding 5 лет назад +3

    always informative, and certainly always entertaining.

  • @Notametalband
    @Notametalband 5 лет назад +1

    I heard the diffrence on my iphonex as if i would thru my audiotechnicas or my studio monitors thats rad asf!!

  • @sighermike
    @sighermike Год назад

    Oxide then Ampex for me. The Oxide really smooths things out and widens it a little. Just a great smooth, full body sound.

  • @matthewjones8510
    @matthewjones8510 5 лет назад

    Listened on my phone. Still heard the low end fatten up and the top end smooth out upon the first set of 2bus comparisons. The low end bit surprised me, but high end variance is actually pretty easy to pick up on a phone speaker.

  • @cgonzt5636
    @cgonzt5636 2 года назад

    I’m listening thru Blon BL03 iem (I expect bass bloated a bit), my choice is Oxide Tape. ATR, I’m still trying to figure out, the Studer I can’t hear a lot of what it does.. just what like you said, more neutral or flat. Nice demo, Thanks

  • @bateman2112
    @bateman2112 5 лет назад +2

    The only thing I heard was a hitch in the sound when the tapes were started and stopped.

  • @Salien1999
    @Salien1999 5 лет назад

    Variety of Sound's FerricTDS has a tape emulation setting that I tend to throw on anything that's supposed to be micced up, right off the bat. Getting the saturation right on the individual tracks removes a lot of work later trying to make everything "boomy." Especially on kick and toms.

  • @JohnnyMegabyteCanada
    @JohnnyMegabyteCanada 5 лет назад

    I was mixing a demo on the weekend using REAPER, and thought I would try using a Free Tape VST (FerricTDS) on the Master Mix Controls, and see if it would sound Warmer
    When I rendered, the Peaks where half as high and somewhat appeared like a flat line, but half as big as a maxed compression.
    A) Does the Tape Saturation Waveform normally appear visually like a highly Compressed track ... FLAT ?
    B) Does the Tape Saturation give a mix more headroom, to boost the mix to get more volume or pump? I didn't try to find out, that's why I ask

  • @Gunderslam
    @Gunderslam 5 лет назад +1

    That oxide tape sounds badass!

  • @mrmemyselfandi9609
    @mrmemyselfandi9609 3 года назад

    WOAH!!! I have all three of these plugs and while my mixes are different than yours, I didn't expect them to respond this differently. I TOTALLY agree your sentiments. The Studer was more subdued...almost robs that kick ass aggressive midrange on the lead guitars that the the apex 102 is at home with....The oxide too. I also couldn't believe that oxide had the smack of that snare as much as it did because it usually sounds like it starts to falter when I push it hard...but here you're making this thing sing into the red and it's swift on it's feet. That's insane. I need to go back and pop it on my mix and drum buss to listen again. The oxide was free for me with my UAD package and I paid for the other two so I kinda feel like maybe I overlooked a diamond in the rough.
    Meh... I love the Studer for vocals and the stereo buss...amazing....lol...That sound reminds me of Steve Albini records I've heard. I guess it depends on the source. Anyway, thanks for the video...solid thumbs up!

  • @bjoernkmusic
    @bjoernkmusic 5 лет назад

    Got scolded by a mastering engineer for putting tape emulation across the mixbus before handing in the track. After hearing his explanation and the before-and-after ... yeah, it's pretty easy to turn your track into mush that way. The low end bump can oftentimes do more harm than good, and the right compressor settings can round transients nicely as well. So it's not a tool that works for me personally, I'm gravitating more towards very subtle doses of console saturation these days because of that experience. But that's the great thing about audio engineering - there's not rules how to arrive at a great sounding end product.

  • @Stubz_Perez
    @Stubz_Perez 5 лет назад

    Funny seeing this, I just bought the Waves Audio J-37 and so far, I love it.

  • @chrisact9601
    @chrisact9601 5 лет назад +1

    I've been thinking about going for the Waves Abbey Road J37 Tape plugin. The UAD Oxide Tape you demo'd there also seems to hype the upper mids. Not a bad thing just what I'm hearing.

    • @GraemeWoller
      @GraemeWoller 5 лет назад

      I've been using the J37 on everything for years. Really really handy, and you can often get a good deal on it from Waves.

  • @jakeseitz
    @jakeseitz 5 лет назад +1

    Your eyes are brighter than the sun holy crap 😂

  • @51percentproductions25
    @51percentproductions25 5 лет назад +1

    I liked the Oxide the most.

  • @TheBlackJewelz
    @TheBlackJewelz 2 года назад

    Thanks for this man, also that guitar riff is DOPE AS HECK!!

  • @edwardx.winston5744
    @edwardx.winston5744 Месяц назад

    I already own the Studer A800 and Oxide plug-ins. I was contemplating the purchase of the ATR-102 (I have a coupon for a limited-time price of $39), but I am not sure I could not accomplish everything I would ever need using just the two I already own (I also have the Kramer plug-in from Waves, Magnetic II from Nomad Factory, and the venerable PSP Vintage Warmer 2).
    So ... talk me into the Ampeg ATR 102 plug-in, or talk me out of it?

  • @SeanLoBiondo
    @SeanLoBiondo 5 лет назад

    The Oxide Tape did something really nice to the low end on the full mix.

  • @littlearsehole75
    @littlearsehole75 5 лет назад

    I could discern a difference listening on the external speakers on my tablet. Neato!

  • @adammays3128
    @adammays3128 5 лет назад

    Ampex and Oxide seemed to do the most. The Ampex seemed to add a bit of loudness and clarity almost, at least in the full mix. The Studer, I could hardly tell

  • @ImmyT89
    @ImmyT89 3 года назад

    what i heard is it adds warm saturation (more pleasing to the ears) while making it sound less hi-fi and more analog?

  • @Shane-zo4mg
    @Shane-zo4mg 5 лет назад

    My favorite is Softube Tape

  • @ebheron
    @ebheron 5 лет назад

    J37 from Waves and VTM from Slate are also very nice.

  • @Daviddosi
    @Daviddosi 3 года назад

    I have the ampex and i love it but damn i dident think the oxide would sound so good! propably will buy it and use for vocals

  • @hoborec
    @hoborec 5 лет назад

    I have the ATR and Studer from UAD but never use them any more. When I want tape I use tape. The way they handle transients are no way near the real thing. They can sound cool and great as saturators though.

  • @loganstrong5426
    @loganstrong5426 5 лет назад +4

    Listening on my mixing headphones. On the bass, I couldn't really hear anything different in the low end... But I sure as hell FELT it. Wow.

    • @singleproppilot
      @singleproppilot 5 лет назад +1

      You mix on headphones? I’m sorry.

    • @Nathansthing
      @Nathansthing 3 года назад +1

      @@singleproppilot i prefer mixing on headphones. It's just a preference thing, especially with things like the sienna studio plugin. You can even use it with a subwoofer(with headphones on)

  • @CheesybiscuitStudios
    @CheesybiscuitStudios 5 лет назад

    right of the bat, I found the Ampex to be very boomy. Very 'in your face', lots of mid boost going on there. The Studer was very subtle, I did hear it did something but it was too subtle to actually notice. I found the Oxide to be a combination of those two, very in between. It still compressed and boosted the whole mix by a bunch but did it way less than the Ampex making it way more tweakable to taste. I think the Oxide is my favourite due to it's versatility.

  • @niche1117
    @niche1117 5 лет назад

    Don't let the trolls get to ya man. Great content as always.

  • @alanredversangel
    @alanredversangel 5 лет назад

    I get the point of them, but do you have to change the way you use compression,if you're planning on letting the tape treat transients etc.

  • @donnythompson408
    @donnythompson408 4 года назад

    Prefacing my comment with the understanding that these digital tape sim plugs can be quite useful even without desiring the true sound of tape...
    Perhaps at some point in the future, you could A/B these various digital tape sims with an actual tape machine; maybe using a 2-Mix as the example, and using a version of that mix that was printed to tape, using one of the current online analog processing services (such as MixAnalog or AccessAnalog), to print the 2-mix to real tape, and then compare the sonic results of that to the various digital tape sims in your DAW.
    It’d be interesting to hear the comparison, and an unbiased (lol, no tape pun intended) opinion on the differences.
    Anyhoo, just a suggestion.
    I enjoy your videos.
    😊

  • @EoPatrux
    @EoPatrux 5 лет назад +5

    FerricTDS >>>

  • @TheVoltWithin
    @TheVoltWithin 4 года назад +1

    My favorite was the Oxide Tape. It added so much power and warmth.

  • @screamo4211
    @screamo4211 2 года назад

    love guitars recorded on tape!

  • @harvesteroftone5473
    @harvesteroftone5473 4 года назад +1

    So here's an idea. How about you review 3 tape emulations that only people with UAD hardware can use. That should go down a treat.

    • @seventhplace
      @seventhplace 4 года назад

      That would be snobbishly boring. Besides, you wouldn’t want to max out your UAD cores

    • @izvarzone
      @izvarzone 3 года назад

      You only need 1 tape on master, that's less than 1 core.

  • @kylegrossi8175
    @kylegrossi8175 5 лет назад

    That Oxide for the win

  • @trumancarter1299
    @trumancarter1299 2 года назад

    Wow..1 and 3 for me that's awesome..any experience with any of the Slate Tapes?

  • @markconner5341
    @markconner5341 Год назад

    Stupid question….does it sound better when pressed on vinyl?

  • @newrockorder
    @newrockorder 2 года назад

    ampex on the mixbus is perceivable on my iphone 11

  • @cgonzt5636
    @cgonzt5636 2 года назад

    Thanks good explanation. I’m learning to mix, I purchased a buy one take one deal.. I already purchased channel strip, If given a choice multiband compression vs this tape, which would you recommend to get? Some so essential to having good mix. Thanks

  • @jeffreymaeatro2
    @jeffreymaeatro2 5 лет назад

    Hi, Riff i hear compression and high end eqing. The studer sounds less processed that the other two.

  • @campar1043
    @campar1043 Год назад

    oxide tape sounds beautiful

  • @gregtuna49
    @gregtuna49 5 лет назад

    Using a new lense/lighting? Room looks amazing but now looks really small. What did you do to achieve that?

  • @fernandoobregon3359
    @fernandoobregon3359 4 года назад

    Yes oxide more agressive .... studer A800 sounds most rounded softer ... maybe perfect for softer music.

  • @artbluevibe6629
    @artbluevibe6629 3 года назад

    Hi, I want to know why use a transient shaper to increase the attack of a kick or snare so that at the end its gonna go through a tape plugin to soften things out ? Wouldn't that be pointless? or am I wrong? Can you help me understand? Thank you so much

  • @UmutEmiroglu305
    @UmutEmiroglu305 Год назад

    Thnx man.

  • @franklinbelliard7625
    @franklinbelliard7625 5 лет назад

    New camera angle... nice.

  • @stevenslusher5694
    @stevenslusher5694 5 лет назад

    ATR had punch, Oxide had boom, Studer had a fuzziness

  • @luispower1979
    @luispower1979 5 лет назад

    Loved that song!!!!!!!!!

  • @ccrecordings
    @ccrecordings 5 лет назад

    Funny enough the galaxy s9+ has an amazing speaker configuration and I can hear the difference on it. 🔥

  • @dominicsinicrope2795
    @dominicsinicrope2795 5 лет назад

    Fluff I see you’re using logic in this video. Have you switched back to using logic all of the time or are you using whichever daw you feel like using for a project or track? Also if you did switch back to logic, what made you do it?

  • @SonovaBish
    @SonovaBish 5 лет назад

    The Ampex is my favorite for this demo. Oxide is next.

    • @izvarzone
      @izvarzone 3 года назад +1

      Hard choice for me Oxide vs Ampex on this vid. For my own stuff I'd probably prefer Ampex, cause it have crosstalk.

  • @MrMusicopath
    @MrMusicopath 3 года назад

    the oxide is like instant mastering

  • @wowzers_imamess
    @wowzers_imamess 5 лет назад +1

    Did anyone else notice fluffs eyes are a really bright blue in the 1st few mins

  • @TheSingingCelebrant
    @TheSingingCelebrant 4 года назад

    Looking for something to use for Vocals please/ Any suggestions appreciated

  • @Locoandchooch
    @Locoandchooch 5 лет назад

    I actually still use my MCI 2” I haven’t found a decent plugin to replicate. However I’d like too spend time with one of these.

  • @reginaldbowls7180
    @reginaldbowls7180 Год назад

    I could hear a big difference on my AirPod pros

  • @juljos9343
    @juljos9343 2 года назад

    I’m struggling with this. I know you said wear headphone and good monitors. But I’m still not sure if this is gonna work. And I notice it’s also not cheap. Very good effort though on all youtube promotions.

  • @ldfox11
    @ldfox11 5 лет назад

    My 2011 macbook pro blew a graphic chip so I can't tell the difference on my pc laptop.

  • @LukVonTrug
    @LukVonTrug 5 лет назад

    I have the feeling the iphone listening mafia will knock on your door soon!

  • @AmericanMe
    @AmericanMe 5 лет назад

    Cubase Magneto is awesome on guitar which is a tape emulator

  • @TheDirtymexican0
    @TheDirtymexican0 5 лет назад

    I’m listening on my Nokia but I don’t hear a difference, what should I do?

  • @mr.hashundredsofprivatepla3711
    @mr.hashundredsofprivatepla3711 3 года назад

    I don’t think tape emulator VSTs are very accurate. They use sine LFOs to modulate the pitch of the audio to give an aesthetic feel.
    If you want to go for a more realistic effect, why not replace the sine wave with a 1d noise algorithm?

  • @abeldeleon5901
    @abeldeleon5901 5 лет назад

    I preferred the sound of the Ampex.

  • @43gone03
    @43gone03 5 лет назад

    Where your making Other New Songs for Your Band Dragged Under

  • @musicmore5169
    @musicmore5169 3 года назад

    Is It like key word like , a form of filter ?

  • @RafaelOliveiraBR
    @RafaelOliveiraBR 11 месяцев назад

    Oxide sounds better, more clear and deep in my ears

  • @jamesbarron7568
    @jamesbarron7568 5 лет назад +1

    Your eyes are more blue than your shirt like whoa.

  • @PieterGNel
    @PieterGNel 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome video man! What drum machine do you use?

  • @PeanutButterAM
    @PeanutButterAM 3 года назад +2

    I can’t hear the difference on my phone speakers. This whole show is a scam!
    😂

  • @A.Moortal
    @A.Moortal 5 лет назад

    Any recommendations on free tape plugins?