Chad had more freedom & leeway in the offense in Cincinnati but in New England everyone had to play a specific role. You play within the system of the offense.
@@El_Fonzo Chad had the freedom to run whatever route he wanted because of his elite abilities and the play that was called did not matter in Cincinnati. New England said no run the route that was called for this specific play. What is so funny about that?
@@cremdeniro237 winning a superbowl is a team accomplishment. It’s pretty common for elite athletes to freestyle on offense & defense across all sports. Chad not winning a superbowl does not diminish his accomplishments as a player. LT for the giants routinely went against the play calls of Bill Belichick & Bill Parcels because of his elite abilities of playing, reacting, & reading the offense. LT won several superbowls, sack titles, & defensive player of the year awards. Chad has not always played on the most talented and well coached teams for the majority of his career.
There were many stories that year that Chad didn't grasp or understand the playbook . He often looked lost and confused. Totally a different level from the team in Cincy to New England
@@jermainelaw1077 i think that had a lot more to do with it. Him not grasping the playbook was due to his late start. Moss came from Oakland and was fine the very first game he stepped on the field for NE.
Yall in this comment section listened to Ocho explain why they win, and then heard why he couldnt be himself, and thought the patriots were the issue? yall gotta grow the fuck up lol
I think people with a brain understand that ocho didn’t win because of him like moss was similar but his pure talent is what saved him like if TO would’ve went to the patriots they would’ve won even more honestly
@@KDS14277 Using the word “structure” is really misleading and inaccurate, even though I understand what you are saying. He was an all-pro top 5 receiver for almost a decade. There’s more to it than he just didn’t work well in a structured environment
Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Bo Jackson, Randy Moss, and Calvin Johnson are a few who just weren't built to be champions. Looking back on them now, you could see it in some of them, especially with Barry. He's got the most meaningless yards in football history. All that running and nothing to show for it.
"Couldn't be myself"...he says it like that's a bad thing. Nice to see Chad proud of his SB catch...they could have given him the Tiquan Underwood treatment
There's different levels of discipline. You have light discipline and then you have the extreme side of discipline..... The new england patriots were the extreme side of discipline... But it paid off look how many super bowl rings they acquired
@@trisetfitnesstv6315bro don’t you honestly need somebody to breakdown what dude was trying to say? All you have to do is use your comprehension skills if you have any
Chad needed a full offseason and more time to get acclimated. I believe that talent and intelligence translate and he has both. If he’d have played another year there, he’d have been a key piece of the Pats offense and they probably win SB 47.
So many negative people in the comments it’s pathetic. If you don’t get that Chad does things his own way and will forever be that way, it says a lot more about you. Y’all are lame for real
@@ellemarr7234 Chad never won anything anywhere he played. He definitely was a loser his way. Ask Darelle revis. You must've missed Chad crying on his shoulder because darelle turned off his water when he thought he was great. Instead of calling people lames why don't you learn the game and look in the mirror. I'm sure you'll find all the lame you need. Look up Tom Brady football is hard speech at his hof. You don't get to tell people who work hard that their standards are too high. You meet them or win with your own. Chad is a career loser.
How is that a good thing? Doing things your way is fine in most cases. Someone does it their way in all cases is a fool. He’s successful but who know how much more successful he could’ve been if he adapted in certain cases.
@@ellemarr7234 nobody cares. People get to have an opinion about what he said about their favorite coach or QB that they like better than him. He can win in other lanes he just didn't win in football doing it his way. He cried on Darelle revis chest about being embarrassed on the field by him... That's not manly... He looked like a sucker. Good podcast though lol. Now y'all can go cry in a corner and look in the mirror for lames who are mentally weak.
Some players play for stats and the " contract " Other players sacrifice stats for good of TEAM. Unfortunately in our culture the public has heard of the Ocho's, James Hardins & Jeff George's. These and many more I'm quite sure don't have the respect of any former teammates and I'm posit they don't have a ring.
This is very true.” Yourself” was selfish and never about winning. Not surprised you didn’t fit in with a consistently successful team. All talk and very little substance
Yeah of course they can be themselves Chad just didn't like that they didn't design enough plays for him 😂 and didn't like being held accountable for his play on the field
Bro you’re trippin’ 🤦🏾♂️. I understand you’re a patriot fanboy, but to call one of the best athletes the world has ever seen a loser is just nuts🤷🏾♂️. Had it not been for the mistakes he made, he would’ve been 1st ballot. Stop playin☝🏾.
If Chad and Tom had linked up it would have been scary. Edit: my bad for the wording but I meant like in sync I know they played together. In fact, I watched the video.
They did play together, and Chad sucked. He couldn't understand the offense. In his defense, it was probably the most difficult playbook to learn in the whole league, but nonetheless, he couldn't grasp it.
i loved Chad in his early years in Cinci ..then over time, he became a show boat and for himself. Chad is calling himself out if he realizes or not. wouldn't want him on my team
@@wunderkid8749 wow it didn’t have a c in it and it’s being corrected? Man we have fallen a mighty long way…. It’s a honest grammar error… why point it out?
@ellemarr7234 Chad never won anything. You sound like a casual. Bill is on ESPN being worshipped and doing big deals. If he wants to coach he can find the right situation when it's time. Not sure he wants to.
"The Patriot Way" is B.S. Soon as Brady left "The Patriot Way" produced nothing. Not only that...nobody wanted to play in New England because of "The Patriot Way." Yall glaze "The Patriot Way" just like yall glaze "The Momba Mentaility." Both are overrated. Tom Brady was the difference in New England.
First, Moss wasn’t cut, he was traded. Second it happened three years after the 23 touchdowns. Not the next season. That was in 2007, he was traded in 2010. Seriously, Chad needs to look shit up before he talks. Third, this spiel that he’s always the victim is pathetic
Are you insane? Seriously? First, Brady and Moss became good friends and Brady has actually said that he regrets not getting Moss a ring. Second, Brady wouldn't throw a game if his mother's life was on the line. He wouldn't even think of that.
As a Pats fan I still can't believe Chad didn't work out in New England
Same and I was definitely pulling for him. He couldn't learn the offense in time
Chad had more freedom & leeway in the offense in Cincinnati but in New England everyone had to play a specific role. You play within the system of the offense.
😂😂😂 ok coach
@@El_Fonzo Chad had the freedom to run whatever route he wanted because of his elite abilities and the play that was called did not matter in Cincinnati. New England said no run the route that was called for this specific play. What is so funny about that?
And thats why chad never won a damn thing no structure
@@cremdeniro237 winning a superbowl is a team accomplishment. It’s pretty common for elite athletes to freestyle on offense & defense across all sports. Chad not winning a superbowl does not diminish his accomplishments as a player. LT for the giants routinely went against the play calls of Bill Belichick & Bill Parcels because of his elite abilities of playing, reacting, & reading the offense. LT won several superbowls, sack titles, & defensive player of the year awards. Chad has not always played on the most talented and well coached teams for the majority of his career.
Shit it seem like Randy moss was doing whatever he wanted on the field
Randy Moss did say that was the most complicated offense he had ever been apart of, Chad couldn't grasp the playbook.
Facts! I had a copy of Charlie Weis playbook my gosh
There were many stories that year that Chad didn't grasp or understand the playbook . He often looked lost and confused. Totally a different level from the team in Cincy to New England
Yeah I can imagine it’s probably a lot harder when you been with one team for so long
You’re trying to remember and forget at the same time
He also had a late start due to the lockout that year
@@jermainelaw1077 i think that had a lot more to do with it. Him not grasping the playbook was due to his late start. Moss came from Oakland and was fine the very first game he stepped on the field for NE.
Well that’s what happens when you get there late & have to hit the ground running with people who have been there their whole career
Yall in this comment section listened to Ocho explain why they win, and then heard why he couldnt be himself, and thought the patriots were the issue? yall gotta grow the fuck up lol
I think people with a brain understand that ocho didn’t win because of him like moss was similar but his pure talent is what saved him like if TO would’ve went to the patriots they would’ve won even more honestly
Chad did his own thing with the Bengals, went to a structure team didn’t perform as well.
Naw cap why trade for me and you know what my strengths are but you want me to do something else
That's some of the dumbest ish ever, he couldn't have performed and played as well as he did if he wasn't on a 'structured team'
@@El_Fonzo you sound like a huge Chad fan he’s a good player, but those are facts
@KDS14277 And you sound like a huge moron, those aren't the facts. Carry on.
@@KDS14277 Using the word “structure” is really misleading and inaccurate, even though I understand what you are saying. He was an all-pro top 5 receiver for almost a decade. There’s more to it than he just didn’t work well in a structured environment
Ocho never cared about winning. He cared about his stats and performance.
Interesting thoughts from Ocho. Appreciate his take
some people are built to be champions. some just aren't.
Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Bo Jackson, Randy Moss, and Calvin Johnson are a few who just weren't built to be champions. Looking back on them now, you could see it in some of them, especially with Barry. He's got the most meaningless yards in football history. All that running and nothing to show for it.
WINNING is enjoyable!🏆🏆🏆
Being professional isn't @ having FUN all the time, U need to do your job, best U can.
obviously not every player is capable of putting the team above themselves.
He didn't seem to know the playbook very well either. Moss got a very big contract after his first season in NE.
That black ivy book in the back 🙌
Ocho had a chance to ride off into the Super Bowl sunset but made himself expendable.
Patriot way aint shhhh without a talented QB
Name me a great system without one? 😂🤡
@@AAJ23801Shannahans system,
Andy Reid system
He said that he did enjoy the experience, even if he could not be himself ...
Salute Mero 🫡
They need to intensify the lighting on the set.
Even tho he didn’t pan out here in New England. Chad Johnson was great and was definitely fun to watch
"Couldn't be myself"...he says it like that's a bad thing. Nice to see Chad proud of his SB catch...they could have given him the Tiquan Underwood treatment
“Everyone can’t perform under that.” So everyone can’t perform when structure , accountability and responsibility is at play? lol wow. Explains it all
There's different levels of discipline. You have light discipline and then you have the extreme side of discipline..... The new england patriots were the extreme side of discipline...
But it paid off look how many super bowl rings they acquired
@@misutasutanto6312wtf is “lite discipline “ 😂
@@trisetfitnesstv6315bro don’t you honestly need somebody to breakdown what dude was trying to say? All you have to do is use your comprehension skills if you have any
Very true have you been in a Supervisory role in the workplace?? Some Employees are ridiculous.
What do Tom Brady getting talking to gotta do with you doing your job & leaving the play book ?
Football is a team sport at the end of the day…what’s best for the team…
Chad needed a full offseason and more time to get acclimated. I believe that talent and intelligence translate and he has both. If he’d have played another year there, he’d have been a key piece of the Pats offense and they probably win SB 47.
Was Aaron Hernandez a company man? Maybe he did well with the structure?
So many negative people in the comments it’s pathetic. If you don’t get that Chad does things his own way and will forever be that way, it says a lot more about you. Y’all are lame for real
@@ellemarr7234 Chad never won anything anywhere he played. He definitely was a loser his way. Ask Darelle revis. You must've missed Chad crying on his shoulder because darelle turned off his water when he thought he was great. Instead of calling people lames why don't you learn the game and look in the mirror. I'm sure you'll find all the lame you need. Look up Tom Brady football is hard speech at his hof. You don't get to tell people who work hard that their standards are too high. You meet them or win with your own. Chad is a career loser.
swear
How is that a good thing? Doing things your way is fine in most cases. Someone does it their way in all cases is a fool. He’s successful but who know how much more successful he could’ve been if he adapted in certain cases.
Well said. RUclips is full of losers who complain about winners.
@@ellemarr7234 nobody cares. People get to have an opinion about what he said about their favorite coach or QB that they like better than him. He can win in other lanes he just didn't win in football doing it his way. He cried on Darelle revis chest about being embarrassed on the field by him... That's not manly... He looked like a sucker. Good podcast though lol. Now y'all can go cry in a corner and look in the mirror for lames who are mentally weak.
Some players play for stats and the " contract " Other players sacrifice stats for good of TEAM.
Unfortunately in our culture the public has heard of the Ocho's, James Hardins & Jeff George's.
These and many more I'm quite sure don't have the respect of any former teammates and I'm posit they don't have a ring.
Pats are a system team that passes short and medium passes…Not Johnson’s game.
This is very true.” Yourself” was selfish and never about winning.
Not surprised you didn’t fit in with a consistently successful team. All talk and very little substance
After hearing Bill tell Cam he can be himself, I think he would’ve let Chad as well. No doubt bill loved Chad always trolling the refs and NFL
Yeah of course they can be themselves Chad just didn't like that they didn't design enough plays for him 😂 and didn't like being held accountable for his play on the field
How was your team mate Aron Hernandez. He a top nfl Latino to do it
Hernandez was a tremendous talent. He killed it.
Chad they used you as a decoy!!! Very smart
Randy could learn and Ocho could not, the end. Johnson needs to place blame on himself.
They needed Chad to fully lock in and stop all the playing
Randy was trades not cut
That's where he wanted to play
Chad seem cool about it, I’m sure Brady liked him. Bill I guess liked him too. Just didn’t work
Bunch of videos of Bill & Chad in the media speaking positively about each other
@ that’s good
They work with each other on inside the NFL so they’re on good terms.
@ that’s good
Not true at all. BB and Chad had a very solid, mutually respectful relationship that was witnessed many times. Ocho just couldn't grasp the offense.
2:05 😂
Bill and Brady mean business. They not there to have fun they their to win . That’s it
TEAM sport: WHY would Ocho think he can "do his own thing"😮
Why Randy moss can handle the patriots way Ocho?
Bills way is what it is
Bro you’re trippin’ 🤦🏾♂️. I understand you’re a patriot fanboy, but to call one of the best athletes the world has ever seen a loser is just nuts🤷🏾♂️. Had it not been for the mistakes he made, he would’ve been 1st ballot. Stop playin☝🏾.
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If Chad and Tom had linked up it would have been scary.
Edit: my bad for the wording but I meant like in sync I know they played together. In fact, I watched the video.
They did
They did play together, and Chad sucked. He couldn't understand the offense. In his defense, it was probably the most difficult playbook to learn in the whole league, but nonetheless, he couldn't grasp it.
He was washed by then anyways
I couldn't be a divaaaaa
i loved Chad in his early years in Cinci ..then over time, he became a show boat and for himself. Chad is calling himself out if he realizes or not. wouldn't want him on my team
THE SAME GUY WHO NEVER WON A CHAMPIONSHIP ‼️ NO SUPERBOWL RING .
Bill doesn’t have picks
That's why Rudy Gay doesng have any chips - hes talking about "i"
It's a team sport and ur not the i that can win a chip
Who the hell is “ochocino”
Stop it… who the heck are u? U watching a sport type show… do ur research..
@@terryallenthinks9421they mispelled his name 😂😂😂 you can’t read : it’s ochocinco !
@@wunderkid8749 wow it didn’t have a c in it and it’s being corrected? Man we have fallen a mighty long way…. It’s a honest grammar error… why point it out?
Ochocinco one of the greatest route runners of all time
@@wunderkid8749 thank for responding do these dumb asses they be so quick to type and not fuckin read
That just means he couldn't be a loser if he couldn't be himself. Brady and Bill are winners. Nobody cares about "your self"
Chad did it his own way. If Bill’s way is the only way, why is he without a coaching job right now?
There is literally zero logic to this comment..not everyone operates or performs under the same "standards"...
They are cheaters actually
@@Kinzokumen_JEEB not everyone wins either. It's stupid to expect to be yourself when you join a team. It's a team game
@ellemarr7234 Chad never won anything. You sound like a casual. Bill is on ESPN being worshipped and doing big deals. If he wants to coach he can find the right situation when it's time. Not sure he wants to.
Goof has no accountability
"The Patriot Way" is B.S. Soon as Brady left "The Patriot Way" produced nothing. Not only that...nobody wanted to play in New England because of "The Patriot Way." Yall glaze "The Patriot Way" just like yall glaze "The Momba Mentaility." Both are overrated. Tom Brady was the difference in New England.
A lot of WR act like women and he is one of them 🤷🏾♂️
💯
Making millions of dollars....any man making millions of dollars and complains...i mean cmon were u over paid? Hmm
You can't be yourself, it's a JOB
He's not a team player, easy. What did he win, nothing. We know why. He was overrated.
First, Moss wasn’t cut, he was traded. Second it happened three years after the 23 touchdowns. Not the next season. That was in 2007, he was traded in 2010. Seriously, Chad needs to look shit up before he talks. Third, this spiel that he’s always the victim is pathetic
They did Moss dirty and nobody can tell me Brady didn’t throw that superbowl to make sure Moss didn’t get one
So Brady threw a perfect season to spite Moss? For what?
Not buying it lol
You guys will just say anything on this internet. It doesn’t even have to make sense.
Are you insane? Seriously? First, Brady and Moss became good friends and Brady has actually said that he regrets not getting Moss a ring. Second, Brady wouldn't throw a game if his mother's life was on the line. He wouldn't even think of that.
@@zeus6793 exactly. The man said he would trade two Superbowls for that one victory. Totally senseless post by the OP
It’s not true that Randy got cut for speaking out about his contract, Chad pulled that out of thin air
Chad didn’t want to work