Was Christopher Columbus' ship DWARFED by Chinese Explorer Zheng He?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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Peterson, B. B. (1994). THE MING VOYAGES OF CHENG HO (ZHENG HE), 1371-1433. The Great Circle, 16(1), 43-51. www.jstor.org/s...
Church, S. K. (2005). ZHENG HE: AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE PLAUSIBILITY OF 450-FT TREASURE SHIPS. Monumenta Serica, 53, 1-43. www.jstor.org/s...
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The scale of Chinese undertakings can be mind-blowing. Take that in modern times they decided to build an artificial moon and turned a desert into a forrest. And the list goes on and on. I’ve read that the ancient Chinese were so thorough, some of the ships of the fleet were dedicated to agriculture, including growing citrus trees to prevent scurvy. Imagine the forward thinking required to design a ship to grow trees then come back to me about the ancient Chinese not considering the engineering challenges of a ship with the stated dimensions.
exactly! large country, large population, large ambitions..... not forgetting China was light years ahead at that time..... and supposedly Zheng He found America a whole 70 odd years before Columbus!
@@antwango Vikings
@@antwango vikings
@@antwango might need to back that up.
The size of the ships based on modern critiques would have been somewhat larger than the Spanish treasure galleons. It's a much more realistic comparison while also paying respect to the fact that these ships, like the galleons, were designed for cargo and would've been much larger than the ships Columbus used for exploration.
unifieddynasty: Your cargo theory has given Zheng He a new mission. It would have prolonged the time spent in each country; at least one year was needed for downloading and uploading because the sail ships moved very slowly in harbours, and no multiple docks, and no machinery. Zheng He would have spent about 20+ years for each voyage. Do you agree?
Zheng He was recorded to have gone on 7 voyages. 7 x 20 = 140 years. In short, your cargo theory would have made Zheng He live longer than 140 years.
@@legpol That's great buddy. "My" cargo theory is literally me reading the wikipedia articles and seeing the extent of the academic discourse on this topic. Feel free to add your own theory if you want.
@@unifieddynasty : My own theory was and still is: the Zheng He voyages was and still is a lie, or a novel disguised as history by the lying Chinese historians.
Let me give you another example to prove it was a novel. Whenever and wherever Zheng He went, he was reported to have 27,670 soldiers with him. The soldiers were reported to have taken part in local wars. Like trade, the military actions would add time to stay in the host countries. One year, half a year, or one month. Say they stayed there only for one month, the 27,670 men would need food, toilet, and sleeping quarters. Mister unifieddynasty, were we told who and how were these life's necessities provided? Of course not. The 27,670 men would have spent the one month without them. Mister, were or are the Zheng He voyages a novel?
@@legpol That's great. Kindly go enjoy your theories elsewhere. If you want to know what actual academics think, you know where to find them.
@@unifieddynasty : You of course would continue your belief in Zheng He's voyages.
Before we say goodbye, let me point out one popular belief to you: all histories are only about 80% true. If we use this percentage to judge any history, we shall find the 80% is true. Now, when we apply this 80% to communist China, 80% is more accurate than any other country. Goodbye.
If we only had pictures of the vast pyramids today we would say there is no way they could have been that big. Maybe there is a way to build these sized ships with wood and metals (I’m sure they had access to metals too). Don’t write our ancestors off so easily hey. We have figured out a way to build huge ships so maybe they figured out their own way with what they had.
Adam : Not only the Chinese claimed they had built such sized ships, they also claimed they had built them very fast; on average each ship was built within 3 days. Mister, what would say to this speed? Furthermore, another claim was that all the ships had sailed against the Yangtze River. What would you say to such a claim?
The difference here is the pyramid have physical evidence: the thing itself still standing tall. This mythical ship? Not so much. Making such comparison doesn't suddenly make this thing realistic and definitely exist.
@@slimetank394 Sure, this ship is mythical... you could also say Domus Aurea and Peacock Throne and Jesus Christ Himself are mythical.
@@slimetank394regardless, China was and still is a power to never underestimate
@@slimetank394 Maybe finish the video so you hear about the rudders they found.
Is it a weird coincidence the time stamp for when he is talking about the length of the treasure ships being four-hundred and forty-four, was 4:44? It’s actually around 4:30 or so, but that’s when I looked at it. Apparently in Japan, this time is considered “death o’clock” since four represents death, and four, four, four is an exemplification of this:?😅
Whoa...underrated comment X10
In Chinese characters the word death sounds similar to the word four, since japan also use Chinese characters in their writing system so it symbols death in both japan and china.
The issue with the rudder is that it could have been from a different style of ship where the ratio between rudder length and ship size was much greater.
Also note that the newer estimate of 200 feet is actually very reasonable for unusually large ships of that time period. For example, the Grace Dieu, Henry V's flagship, was 66 meters (216 feet) long.
one thing to keep in mind is that the European versions had a different hull design and didn't use the layering of Chinese junks that created watertight bulkheads. The junks shape and use of bulkheads may be how they made larger ships that could survive the strain of waves.
that treasure ship is not olive/fish shape, its more of a rectangle floating island. so it doesnt cut into waves, it rides on wave or push waves away with relatively flat sides .
and that treasure ship isnt all same size, only lead ship are largest (44men length 18men wide, average man 1.7m. it could be exaggerated length since it only appear on written record.)
i heard theres bunch smaller treasure ship and different military focused ships like trebuchet ship or rapid approaching boarding vessels
consider they grow vegetables, farm animals on treasureship, that flat floating island might be more stable and suitable compare to other shape. and they travel really slow, each round trip cost few years.
Yorkshire Dreamer : I think you were talking about modern powered ships, not ancient sail ships. Sail ships were only powered by wind and can only move in still water such as lakes and seas. Since the sail ships were only powered by wind, a rectangled ship then could not move forward at all; it would spin at the same location in the sea. Zheng He would never go anywhere.
@@legpol im not sailboat expert, but i read an aritical talking about heavy chinese sailjunk accidentally enters a sailboat competition and able to outrun sailboat in low wind situation . so one of the guy dig into it, study shown chinese style flat top sail able to "catch more wind" in low wind situation compare to triangle sail. thats probably why you see some sailboat use flattop sail instead of triangle sail in sailboat competition now aday.
btw i am not talking about a full rectangle "island" the ship should still have bow and stern like a old chinese junk with flat deck just like aircraft carrier. if you search japanese sengoku era ship, remove those paddles, and put multiple giant sail on it, thats what the treasureship/ or old chinese merchant ship should look like during that era.
they are not rushing competition ship, my best guess is the lead treasureship might only travel like 5-10knots thats why they are accompanied with light boarding vessels/military focused escorts.
@@redhongkong : I believe you are totally a green hand as far as Zheng He ships were concerned. You were talking about sailings of single and small ships, while Zheng He's ships were huge ones, bigger than a football field, and they sailed in groups of 317 ships, each was fully loaded up to 5000 tonnes. You also did not know the sudden birth of these many huge ships. According to a Chinese history book Ying Ya Sheng Lan, they were born in a split second.
4:41 actually four is considered unlucky in Chinese, similar to number 13 in the west. It’s a number that they would try to avoid
The negative connotation of number 4 is actually a fairly recent concept, only because it sounds similar to the word death. If you dive deeper into Chinese history, we consider 4 to be a very auspicious number and many of our core values revolve around 4.
@@Theibis31 Japan took / inherits Chinas ideas and writing system etc etc etc culture into their own... there is overlap of ideas etc, same with Korea which also uses Chinese language as well..... you may know this as Kanji in Japanese the Chinese script..... Same with Architecture, chopsticks, food, clothes etc.... ALL flowed from China..... logical
Sooooo in reality Chinese ships were 888 feet in length XDDDDD
@@Theibis31you might as well learn the Chinese language and culture since Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese culture are from China
Good stuff man
Thanks Nate!
Zhen He is still honored to this day, this is truly amazing.
I think the main treasure ship was probably smaller than the huge model we see today, but not by much...after all, they did have a fleet of ships and bought more than 20,000 people around, given that information it is logical to think that the flag ship wouldn't be too small and other treasure ships as well, so they could carry the interesting stuff back home. and the great wall of china we see today was mostly con structured in the ming dynasty, so if they could build the wall and move 20,000 people at sea they probably could build some pretty big ships.
Yes, 27,670 soldiers went along. They did go ashore and spend time in each country. When on shore, the soldiers were fed by each country with better food, and new barracks were built for sleeping at night. It was rumoured that some barracks survived and are open to sightseeing visitors.
It's weird how Western society downplays Eastern society and how technology or how advanced technology that they had. I mean you could take for example India who is it also an ancient country has hidden technologies that we have yet still to discover to this day. But as we come closer together and more histories come out from around the world through the internet we start to see a pattern emerging there pyramids on every one of the continents. So maybe this ship was the size of what they're saying it was
The west praises the East for everything from cheap labor to abundance of spices, foods and multiculturalism. Something not many western nations have. It may be based off of spite, but there is no denying that China alone was one of the greater powers and still is to this day
There’s literally a museum of it
Don't worry, they do the same.
Or maybe you are mentally retarded.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_treasure_ship
Actually most experts agree that largest members of the treasure fleet were impractical for ocean going voyages and were most likely intended for Rivers, mostly to allow the Emporer to display his vast wealth and power.
Your statements meant Zheng He never went to sea. If so, I totally agree because my research has found the Zheng He story to be a novel.
@@legpolHoly shit 😂 I need you to ellaborate if you feel like it
@@GRMNCVS : One point to elaborate was correspondence. If Zheng He did visit any country, he must have written to the government to ask for agreement. Yet, no country had ever received any; and no country had written any replies.
Four in Chinese sounds very similar to death in Chinese. That means the ship's length of 444 feet might have meant that this ship was made as a warship or something that would bring death.
four seasons get rich，don't be ignorant
If one considers the construction of homes and buildings of old, the interlocking of wood could be applied to boats. Plywood design is not new.
The Chinese Zheng He's story is a novel, not a history. The evidence is the lack of his ships today. His ships "reportedly" appeared 600 years ago. If the report were true, then all the ships must last for thousands of years which means we should see the ships today. But no ships were seen by anybody. Then the report was made in a novel, not in any history.
SSpees: You might be talking about the seaworthiness of Zheng He's huge wooden ships. Zheng's ships were about 120 meters long. In rough sea, Zheng's ships were totally not seaworthy; they would be sagged to pieces in short order, according to the current steel ship disasters.
I'm kinda confused as to how the ships were controlled and how the sails lacking the complexity of European ships.
Mat Schrepf: Yes, your controlling might be fatal to the Chinese ships. European ships were few, at least two or three. Yet the Chinese had 317 huge ships stretching for miles on the sea. The communication was transmitted with sign language between each two ships. It would take a few days for the signal to reach all the 317. If the commander gave the order for the fleet to stop, his order could only reach the last ones in a few days. How could the fleet be controlled in such a manner?
I believe the so-called Zheng He voyages had never happened; it was only a novel or a big lie. And this lie was being told by a group of communists. We had to be careful with all communists.
@@legpol
Ah yes, the famous communists of the 1500s.
No... Chinese junks were not inferior..on the contrary .they were superior..
The sails can turn 360 degrees..which is what modern yachts are using..
Modern yachts took the technology from chinese ships..
As well.. Chinese anchors were large donuts..which is what modern large ships are using..
The atypical western anchor can only hold small yachts..
Chinese junks had interior segmentation..preventing capsizing.. which western ships did not have..
Modern ships today use interior segmentation..
And these chinese junk ships were centuries BEFORE western ships.. that's how advance China was..
The masts on that mythical tub would be stripped off in five seconds in a typhoon. Don’t perpetuate Menzies’ pseudohistory, with it’s lack of documentation and clickbait attractions.
Nostrildamus McTavish: I believe Zheng He ships would have been sunk by the sagging and hogging forces of waves because his ships were built with wood and all had a flat bottom.
@@legpol
^^^
Nobody tell this retard about the Roman navy.
The prison ships during the revolutionary war were definitely comparable
鄭和的訪問團很龐大，有317艘船，艘艘比足球場還大。由上萬的水手操運。另有兵員27，670人。出發前，裝載兩年的糧食淡水。供海路一去一回的伙食。到了外國，吃拉睡當然由地主國負擔。從海邊走到首都，至少得花十天半月，一來一回，起碼上月。都由地主國包。沿途要修建好多軍營廚房廁所，一言難盡。
Given the extensive nature of the expeditions one would think someone along the way had tape measure.
The Chinese Zheng He's story is a novel, not a history. The evidence is the lack of his ships today. His ships "reportedly" appeared 600 years ago. If the report were true, then all the ships must last for thousands of years which means we should see the ships today. But no ships were seen by anybody. Then the report was made in a novel, not in any history.
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ct that it was dwarfed is meaningless. The Colum.
Bus voyage was the very lowest of priorities for the Spaniards.. Most advisers believed it was a complete waste of time because the distance to reach china by their calculations was much further than the traditional route around africa. I am The way the royal family saw it.Columbus was lucky to have gotten any budget from them at all. The three ships he got were three of the Most insignificant ships in their fleet. Compare that to the Chinese who put a put a man on the moon.Type of effort into building The ships that would reach Africa..
Sad part. The emperor destroyed his own fleet and killed the officers because he was more concerned with who could oppose him. Than the achievements his people and his rule could do in the world.
lmao
@@LabiaLicker yah. He was.
Unless they know something we don’t modern engineers have raised questions about the reliability of these claims.
Yes, modern engineers have questioned the reliability of Zheng He's ships. Yet it seemed all the questions were concerning the size of each ship. They did not question the building speed such as how many years the Chinese took to build one ship; how could a ship displacing thousands of tonnes of water clear the shallow water in the Yangtze River; how the Chinese sail ships were reported to sail against the running waters in the Yangtze River. Without these questions, the Chinese were giving an easy time by the modern engineers.
@@legpol
Perhaps you have heard of this little called an ocean?
@@legpolYangtze river? Who said they went through the Yangtze River?
@@Theo-bk6qj : It is reported by the Chinese historians who published a voyage schedule online. The schedule reports that Zheng He's fleet departed from Nanjing in each voyage. Of course Zheng He's sail ships must have sailed from the sea and upward in the Yangtze River in each of his voyages. Did you ever see any sail ship operating in running water? But, Zheng He's huge sail ships were reported to have done so 7 times.
@@legpol Do you have the sources to those reports? Because while historians work is important, I will take it with a grain of salt (particularly from the CCP as they tend to exaggerate almost everything in Chinese history).
And some say it’s not just the size of it ! … it what’s done ✅ with things!😂
i refer you to a book by Gavin Menzies "1421"
Gavin Menzies books reported arrivals in North America only. Namely only how Zheng He's ships arrived in America; they never returned to China.This kind of visits violated Chinese story telling. In
Chinese stories, each Zheng He's voyage begin in Nanjing and returned to Nanjing.
Besides, Zheng He's voyages could have been a novel, a hoax. There are too many extraordinary events in the Chinese accounts. One was the returning to Nanjing. You see? Returning to Nanjing meant the sailboats had sailed against running water for hundreds of miles. How can any sailboat do that?
Why?
Zheng he was definitely compensating for something
does SIZE matter or are we just CLICKBAITING to get VIEWS we DONT deserve?
Size mattered a lot in the Zheng He case, the seaworthiness. 1) Zheng He's ships were reported to have been built with wood, they could not build a V bow for the ships. All the ships would have a flat nose, which would create obstruction against the sea. The ships would not go forward but spin in the same spot. 2) The ships were reported to be very long, about 125 meters. Such long wooden ships would be easily broken into pieces in rough sea by the upward waves.
There was another problem with the Zheng He's ships, big or small. They were sail ships and all sail ships were and are unable to sail in running water such as the Yangtze River. Yet they were reported by Chinese historians to have sailed to Nanjing 7 times from the sea.
All these problems showed that the Zheng He voyages and his ships never existed.
@@legpol im going to trust your clearly decades long experteses on modern and antiquity seafairing. thanks for that. it was special.
@@nunyanunya4147 ：You are welcome. From one word seaworthiness, I found that the Zheng He voyages is a novel. Do you think my finding good?
@legpol LOL! Look at this dipshit smearing their lies. LOL!!! Gavin's theory is proven true via, DNA evidence. We've been through this before Leg and you never learn. Yhays how dumb you are Leg and it shows.
@legpol By the way, that user was pulling your leg and you didn't get it, that's how dumb you are Leg. 😂
The Golden Hind! Was tiny! And capture rich Spanish ships 🎉
cool ships but this sail Design looks Vulnerable, It's probably a Coastal ship Instead of Blue water ship, And it have a Flat bottom, I'm not sure Design like this Have ability to against bigger wave, It just my personal opinion, Maybe it Really can sail in storm, Who knows
Annie fisher: This kind of ships never existed. This non-existence was believed by a handful of Chinese people according to an article titled 郑和下西洋乃是个被夸大到千万倍的虚假宣传，available online. I believe the handful do have the truth. Furthermore, the Chinese claims also include an extraordinarily high building speed: about 3 days each ship was built. And furthermore, the Chinese also claimed their big sail ships had sailed against running water in their Yangtze River. I believe all their claims were too extraordinary to be believable and possible.
u are just a pink skin eurocentric
It was more than a century BEFORE West
As with most parts of history the answer is " who knows?"
Why dont proof it, otherwise there is no reason to believe they were indeed 400 ft.
Just come China and go to some museum in Fujian Province.
u not genius but stupid dude
@@user_0125I’ve been! Couple years ago.
The ship probably existed seeing Noahs Ark we have it's dimensions and the ship there in Turkey, just because the West couldnt make a ship that big doesn't mean it couldn't exist. Lots of things got invented outside the Western Hemisphere.
If Zheng He's ship were truly built, they will survive thousands of years or even millions of years. Where are they now? Another impossibility for their being built was the speed. Chinese promotion literature told us that 317 huge ships were built in one shipyard in about 3 years. It meant the Chinese were building each ship in less than 3 days. Mister, do you believe it?
@@legpol Well i don't know much about chinese history i know they attacked Japan under the mongols and so yes 300 ships is not impossible for China especially when you look at that terricota army found under the earth........in terms of Noah's Ark the ship is petrified. I don't believe the earth is millions of years old, it's only a liberal narration claiming the earth is millions of years old. The earth is about 14000 years old latest.
@@jimmynolet3752 : If you don't know enough Chinese history, then you might easily be fooled by their lies. The Zheng He voyages should be one of their lies. I am fluent in Chinese language and have read plenty of Zheng He. Finally, I found it to be a lie. To you, I wish to offer the common warning: if something sounds too good to be true, then it must not be true.
@@legpol subsequent rulers did not approve of the ships and thus would scrap and burn the massive treasure ships as they are to costly to maintain. Also the 317 ships include smaller support vessels and most of which likely were built before this event. Also you can build multiple ships at the same time. Hope that helps!
@@DanielYuan-cf2og ：Thank you for your burning idea; it helped a lot. When such huge ships were burned, they were still in the water/Yangtze River. Therefore when wood was burned to ashes, iron parts would not be burned and would have been preserved by water. Today, these iron parts can be detected and be recovered. Let us use a magnetic instrument to locate them. Hundreds of iron anchors will be found and they are true evidence for Zheng He's voyages.
Yes, your burning idea helps a lot. Thank you.
6:25 the norse discovered America and that went nowhere I predict if the Chinese had discovered America the most they would’ve done is trade
My research into the Zheng He story discovered that the story was a novel.
Probably not much to discover loot plunder nor learn from outside of China so it abandoned explore for.
Great info
Maybe the ship was built from bamboo, bamboo is flexible and light weight and very strong, and it's believed to be stronger than steal!🤔
The bamboo could not been built into long ships. Zheng He ships were 440 feet long. To build such length, 40 bamboos were joined head to toe. Then these joints were very easily to be broken into pieces when hit by rough seas.
Your bamboo idea should serve as evidence for the novelistic nature of Zheng He's voyages. Because Zheng He never went to sea, modern people were free to add new ideas trying to make his sea going into history. In reality, the more ideas added, the more untrue became Zheng He's voyages.
@legpol if zheng he never went to sea, why do many sourh easy asian countries and even places in Africa stoll glorify his legacy??
Where I come from, Malacca, I have not come across stories of the gigantic ship. Of course a lot of records has been stolen and destroyed by Christian invasion but still even the older generation have no stories to tell about such massive ship. I wonder if other places recorded the size of the treasure ship. Or what if the treasure ship couldn't get close to shore and was pretty much anchored out in the ocean due to its immense size.
I am from Malaysia and we learnt that Cheng Heh did visit Malacca. There were no deep water ports in Malacca and with those large ships, they would have to be anchored further away in deeper waters as you have surmised and would not have been easily seen from the shore. However, the Chinese Admiral did leave behind two cannons to help the Sultan drive away the Indonesian pirates that were plaguing the area at the time, as well as yellow tiles for his roofing as befits someone in royalty. All of those items Cheng Heh gave as gifts are still seen in Malacca today and so, there is no disputing his voyage to that part of the country at least as some sceptics and doubters are wont to believe and write about.
@@user-sf1nq9uj7p Yes and in Sulalatus Salatin Zheng He was not mentioned by name. Lak Di Po if I'm not mistaken with 500+ Chinese and a Princess named Hang Liu. So Zheng He may have sent Lak Di Po to shore.
@@starby1243 Yes - I remember about the legend of the princess Admiral Cheng Heh ostensibly brought along in his voyage to be married off as part of his diplomatic mission to foster better relationships. However, I am unsure about the veracity of that part of the story (like who did the princess marry, which country and what of the records from that country?). It is such a great pity that in their zeal to destroy any mention of Cheng Heh's voyages, the Imperial court eunuchs instigated the total destruction of all records and ships relating to those voyages, as though afraid of being "contaminated" by their past and encouraging new voyages to be made.
@@user-sf1nq9uj7p Yes. Most people call the Princess Hang Li Po. But this is incorrect. The Princess is Hang Liu and married to Sultan Mansor Shah. The 500 plus Chinese live on a hill which became known as Bukit Cina. Their descendants later evolved today to be Peranakan or Baba Nyona. They no longer speak Chinese and they have some recipes and tradition from the time of Melaka Kingdom.
After the wedding with the Princess Melaka sent envoys to China and visited the forbidden city. Detailed description of the visit. Interesting to note is Zheng He died in 1433 and Sultan Mansor Shah reign is around 1450-77 so it makes sense Zheng He wasn't mentioned by name during the Lak Di Po mission.
Melaka has had good relationship with China since before Mansor Shah. So I'm pretty sure the Zheng He voyage was one of those mentioned but unfortunately there is no record in Sulalatus Salatin.
But..the Christian Portuguese invasion did destroy many scriptures and records of Melaka Kingdom and there was an incident of more being lost later when a ship sank with a chest full of such priceless Malay records when Raffles was transporting them back home.
@@user-sf1nq9uj7p Hang Liu married Sultan Mansor Shah his reign was after death of Zheng He.
What continents has it discoverd?
Zheng He discovered nothing because his name was used to write a novel by Ma Huan, a mediocre novelist.
what kind of wood did chinese ship use??
Chinese where on usa before Columbus they came onto west coast instead their have Ben stuff found
I doubt it, USA didn't exist until 300 years after Columbus.
What stuff did Ben find?
@@cambs0181😂
Just think we'd be speaking Chinese instead of English right now
Zheng He's story was too good to be true. 317 huge warships were constructed within 3 years, about 3 days a ship. Was too good. His huge sail ships sailed from sea up river to an inland city Nanjing 7 times. Too good. His huge armada was stealth to human eyes. Too good. His huge armada disappeared suddenly. Too good.
Size mattered a lot in the Zheng He case, the seaworthiness. 1) Zheng He's ships were reported to have been built with wood, they could not build a V bow for the ships. All the ships would have a flat nose, which would create obstruction against the sea. The ships would not go forward but spin in the same spot. 2) The ships were reported to be very long, about 125 meters. Such long wooden ships would be easily broken into pieces in rough sea by the upward waves.
There was another problem with the Zheng He's ships, big or small. They were sail ships and all sail ships were and are unable to sail in running water such as the Yangtze River. Yet they were reported by Chinese historians to have sailed to Nanjing 7 times from the sea.
All these problems showed that the Zheng He voyages and his ships never existed.
And yet there is DNA evidence supporting Gavin's theory and the way they turned out a Junk every 3 days is one would start being built and others would follow through. Once one junk is complete, another will be finished three days later because that is how many people they had to work on Junks. How is it that you didn't understand that simple concept Leg?
@@Smokin_Phat_DabsHe clear doesn’t know what’s he talking bout. there are literally archaeological evidence in multiple countries along their voyages that supports the existence of a large Chinese expedition force at sea, besides the giraffe were painted by contemporary Chinese artists, there’s no way they just pulled that sht out of their ass that perfectly corresponds to an actual animal that they didn’t see.
@@underhorse5367 : The giraffe meant Zheng He had no other missions to do. It also meant Zheng He never brought back any treaties signed with host countries, no goodwill words from foreign leaders to his emperor, no praises to Chinese big ships and advanced shipbuilding technology. The giraffe was one and only mission accomplished.
We were told Zheng He had visited more than two dozen countries 7 times, for a total of about 200 visits. Zheng He must have received more than a hundred giraffes. Where were the rest of giraffes?
@@legpol shush 🤫
@@legpol So how about the Chinese dna evidence in Africa ahmmmm
Dear CCP propaganda department: can you imagine how badass it would be to make a recreation of this ship?
pfft 444 in mandarin mean cursing someone into death 3 times, the theory that chinese use 4 because it have mean just don't add up
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I’ve been told that the character for the number 4 looks like the character for death.
modern madarin is less than100 years old.(its like a mixed pronounciation of mongolian and manchurian accent when they adopted chinese language during their conquest of china) ancient han chinese might have different pronunciation which might not have similiar pronounciation like death.
How is modern Mandarin less than 100 years old?
Red Indians or native Americans look very similar to those from the oriental regions
Who questions size then?
Duddy Djaya: A British scientist Ian Holloway questioned the size of Zheng He's ships in the Quora forum. Ian believed, Zheng He's ships were too large to survive any rough sea; they would be broken to pieces in short order.
Besides size, we can question the total number of the ships. Chinese historians have published several numbers, 48, 100, 200, 300, and a Chinese historian named Dr. Wong Tao appearing on a RUclips video gave a number of 1600. I believe these numbers have totally destroyed Zheng He's historical nature. His voyages was just a novel.
No Zheng He's voyages are not a novel, considering your Colonialist Academia, claimed that Zheng He was a Chinese Hui Jew.
Where’s the hard evidence?
The one hard evidence could be a ship. Zheng He's ships should have survived for thousands of years if they were really built. Yet, the most likelihood was, none was really built. It is all a hoax.
Wait.. He didn’t have any balls?..
it was a practice done to prevent the conception of "surprise" illegitimate children in the royal court.
ensuring "bloodline purity" as only the Emperor or his many sons can conceive a child.
this also drastically narrows down the suspects if any female within the court or palace (servant, concubine/harem, or royal), is announced pregnant or with child, both for lineage records and prevention of blood feuds between family members battling for the throne.
the odd exceptions to the practice of eunuchs, would have been generational military commanders, govenors, and magistrates, who don't reside within the palace long enough to reasonably sire any children.
depending on who was doing the cutting, full package removal may happen, otherwise it was mainly vasectomies enmass.
That is what a eunuch means, yes.
@@prestonjones1653 😂😂 No balls
Even if the chinese discover america first, they would have just trade 🤣 and probably create few chinatown along the way
Robby Akbarsyah: I don't believe the Zheng He voyages ever happened, let alone his visit to the Americas creating Chinatowns. My disbelief is based on the supernatural nature of his voyages. If something is too extraordinary it is likely not true. First, Zheng He's ships were reported to be born in a split second. How could hundreds of huge ships come to the world in such a short time? He was also reported to have 27,670 marine soldiers in a split second. Even in advanced modern world, any marines needed months of training in sailing skills. Yet Zheng He had them in less than a second.
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Outside of Chinese propaganda, who cares?
Historians lol…
@@Sorblit Historians? Academics have no use for truth-seeking, only pushing the PC agenda
Historians and people who values history and culture, civilization cares.
Lots of people. I cited this video in a old history paper I wrote about Zheng He.
500 years ago. Imperial China was at the cusp of being a maritime super power that likely would have stemmed the exploitation of the indian sea trade routes from the europeans. Isolation by conservatives in china forced it to isolate itself and left it vulnerable.
The treasure ships were several hundred feet long up to a mythical 400 which hasn't been confirmed but they were indeed the super ships of the day and exceeded anything in human history. The world likely would have been led by imperial China.
However let me point out right now. Imperial China and its descendants likely would have been far far different than communist China.
At its height China was technologically and culturally advanced and it's likely the world would have advanced faster had china decided not to do a china first policy and turned in on itself