Which Pokédex Holder WOULD Win The Emerald Arc Tournament - Pokémon Adventures

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  • In the Emerald Arc of the manga all 10 Dex holders faced off in a tournament for the tactics symbol and for plot reasons Emerald won so I wanna take a look at who would win the tournament from a power scaling standpoint but don't worry this is just a bit of fun and nothing too serious
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Комментарии • 106

  • @stephvondames6369
    @stephvondames6369 11 месяцев назад +133

    Gold vs Sapphire now that's a match I like to see.

    • @sorenman1
      @sorenman1 11 месяцев назад +9

      I know right that was legit my first thought

    • @Tree511
      @Tree511 10 месяцев назад +3

      RED WITH MEWTWO SOLOS

  • @lunerblade13
    @lunerblade13 11 месяцев назад +83

    11:57 I think something worth mentioning is that manga red is not some try hard perfectionist that needs an unbeatable record.
    In fact when red brought up the idea for that tournament in the emerald arc it was just to HAVE FUN.

    • @osaru7506
      @osaru7506 7 месяцев назад +12

      this is one super underrated thing about his character tbh. the story isn’t afraid of implying that he’s currently on par with green or even blue or that emerald is capable of beating him, in order to maintain his notoriety.
      he’ll always be the fighter.

  • @Axecon1
    @Axecon1 11 месяцев назад +54

    Red & Gold are the most creative strategists, Blue is the most conventional and optimal thinker, and Silver & Sapphire own the most brute force. Green has the best gimmicks and Ruby also more or less falls into that category, and while Crys & Yellow aren't battlers, they do have fighting spirit. Emerald falls closest to Blue in terms of style but also has a mix of Green in the gimmicks and gadgets he uses to fight which augments his approach.

  • @brandontherabboat4850
    @brandontherabboat4850 11 месяцев назад +95

    If Emerald really did win this tournament, it’d with determination, luck, and just by a hair.
    -And my God, I love Yellow and all, but she’d be a coughing baby against nine hydrogen bombs-

    • @jayd.doubledubs
      @jayd.doubledubs 11 месяцев назад +21

      Yellow does have that "instantly level up to the 80's+" ability and I feel like if she really wanted to, she could use it before each battle and then just not use it in battle. Same with her healing ability so as to not technically "cheat"
      But yeah, I could also imagine Yellow going in with her severely underleveled team and getting trounced like she did in against Blue's gym team

    • @fork-man
      @fork-man 11 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@jayd.doubledubswhere it is true she can just jump her pokemon level and in turn power she still has to deal with the others tactics skills combat experience and knowledge which would still put her in a postion where she a coughing teenager vs hydrogen bombs

    • @nascour5991
      @nascour5991 10 месяцев назад +3

      yellow is the strongest but only in specific circumstances, in this she'd be out round one.

    • @Tree511
      @Tree511 10 месяцев назад +2

      RED WITH MEWTWO EZ CLAP

    • @nascour5991
      @nascour5991 10 месяцев назад

      if he still had metwo but he doesn't only had in firered leafgreen@@Tree511

  • @Ufo3208_
    @Ufo3208_ 11 месяцев назад +19

    11:45 "If you go to Undella town and see Cynthia; your gonna get washed"
    Me with my level 59 dragon dancing swords dancing Haxorus, and some luck, "we'll see about that..."

  • @PirvateerKurei
    @PirvateerKurei 9 месяцев назад +14

    Adventures Red is the best Red of all of them. He's got personality and a sick eye for battles, Blue's stoic attitude works great against him for a long drawn out fight

  • @MattAnd
    @MattAnd 11 месяцев назад +48

    This is an interesting one. I do pretty much agree for the most part, only really minor things I’d disagree with.
    My head canon for how Emerald won in the manga has always been specifically because Red Vs Blue happened - I can see those two exhausting each other and showing all their moves so Emerald goes in with a massive advantage (seeing as they’d have also only seen him battle twice)

    • @VeeVolt
      @VeeVolt  10 месяцев назад +12

      That’d make a lot of sense

    • @stephvondames6369
      @stephvondames6369 10 месяцев назад +2

      Plus, the levels would be set to 50.

    • @Tree511
      @Tree511 10 месяцев назад

      RED WITH MEWTW EZ CLAP

    • @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
      @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@stephvondames6369
      I thought that only applied for the virtual fighters? I'm pretty sure the battle frontier had no limit.

  • @greyvanity
    @greyvanity 11 месяцев назад +16

    i love this kinda video, power scaling the Pokespé characters is a super sick concept so this might be a bit of a longer comment:
    *I do wanna preface this comment by saying i think you kinda focus to much on the level aspect of the tourney, only because the levels in game are set to 50. so no matter if Gold pulls up with pibo, they all will match within the same level range.
    Silver and Green- Remember that Both of these characters also come from training from the Masked Man, even though there were certain fields that both were taught to specialize under- Will and Karen are both taught under him as well and went as far as to become elite 4 members, so it’s super safe to assume both of these trainers have battle experience even before receiving/stealing their staters.
    Yellow: While i do agree she is one of the strongest dex holders when serious, i still don’t think she’s the strongest at this point in the story. I think she DID face probably the strongest trainer at this point in time ( being Lance ) she did have help in fighting him, even when serious though she ain’t supposed to be taken lightly at ALL.
    Gold: i think him making it so far actually makes sense in terms of a sanctioned battle, Gold is a trainer known to take experiences from past battles and make them his own talents ( seen from him adapting to Silver’s battle style when fighting in Olivine ) plus him vs sapphire would be such a cool fight
    Sapphire: While her battle style is super aggressive, i think a 3rd pokemon to prolly round out her team would definitely be Rono ( Donphan ) since that was her 3rd member- or Tropius to give her some aerial mobility against someone like Emerald and Ruby’s more grounded team. She’s also 1 of 4 trainers who would be more accustomed to fighting in a tourney style rather then the wild fighting that usually goes on. ( other 3 being Red, Blue, Green )
    Ruby vs Blue: GOD THIS ONE WOULD BE SICK. Blue would immediately pick up on Ruby’s innate talent for battling and be able to devise strategies to counter act them, even being able to bring Red’s “surprise factor” into the mix which i really think brings him over the edge in terms of this battle, But Ruby isn’t a slouch either. While he can’t edge out of one of the two strongest trainers of the series Ruby would definitely be able to impress Blue for sure.
    Crystal vs Green: While her battling ability isn’t up to par with someone like Green’s the feat her Hittmonchan has doenst really count towards this battle. I only say that considering that Emerald was the one who executed that move and not her, and Green is way to cunning for someone like Crystal who could read pokemon better then people

  • @KuroBlitz
    @KuroBlitz 11 месяцев назад +25

    Really love the Versus Screen edits and dialogue you made. Massive kudos.

  • @MrDiplomat180
    @MrDiplomat180 11 месяцев назад +10

    In fairness, looking at the story, Emerald has home field advantage over Red, by being more familiar with the Battle Dome. Secondly, Red just recently recovered from being de-petrified, and his ''best'' self in battle shines outside of conventional tournaments, such as ''death battles'' with the villain team. It can stand to reason Red can actually lose to Emerald when you take into account all the factors Emerald has over him at that particular point in the story.
    However, if the author wants to keep Red from losing, I can imagine Red and Blue ending their match in a ''draw'' and the final match will be between Emerald and Gold.

    • @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
      @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 5 месяцев назад +1

      It was pretty canon that red and blue were pretty much identical in overall stats in FRLG. Unlike pokemon red, its more likely they had a draw with pikachu and charizard.

  • @jayd.doubledubs
    @jayd.doubledubs 11 месяцев назад +12

    This is a big question. For plot reasons, it canonically has to be Emerald. But if we take away plot armor, I'd say all contestants are for the most part pretty even
    For this tournament, I feel like Crystal would let Emerald borrow more of her pokemon like he did before and it would be kinda in-character for Emerald to pick the best combination of pokemon and movesets to counter everyone else. But that's very heavy in head canon, and I feel like Emerald would want to prove himself and use his very own pokemon

  • @fernando98322
    @fernando98322 11 месяцев назад +8

    My homie Red taking the W home

  • @ImyIsStillHere
    @ImyIsStillHere 11 месяцев назад +6

    Nothing like a pokémon battle tournament

  • @mdiane4493
    @mdiane4493 11 месяцев назад +7

    I love these videos. they inspire me so much. Thanks VeeVolt!

  • @shimizukai
    @shimizukai 4 месяца назад +1

    In manga original names Blue is the girl who have Blatoise, and Green (Gary Oak manga version) have Charizard. In USA names were changed. In the rest of manga names were exchanged, but in the Battle tournament position of the Pokedexholders, Blue and Green did not changed their position
    This tournament would be epic as much as the gym leader tournament between Kanto and Johto.

  • @MaxWelton
    @MaxWelton 10 месяцев назад +4

    2:25 also, without Battle Dome rules, she could cheat and heal her team indefinitely

  • @chojikiba
    @chojikiba 11 месяцев назад +2

    I was just looking at this panel yesterday!!! Awesome video

  • @NovaKai030
    @NovaKai030 11 месяцев назад +4

    great video friend, I share your opinion on the subject although I differ on the part of Emerald vs Gold, since I believe that Gold would win for having more experience, being strategic and having been trained by the Kanto champion, thus being the final Red vs Gold, master vs apprentice (also a reference to Gold's words in the mt. silver special and the battle that the GSC/HGSS protagonist has with Red in the games) although I must admit that you made me reconsider if Emerald was capable to beat Gold, which I really liked about your video. And who would win between Red and Gold? Well, it's obvious who it would be but anything could happen. And I always think that Emerald went to the front again to officially defeat Tucker. But that's just my opinion, and like I said great video keep it up 👍

  • @Chaoskingdonovan
    @Chaoskingdonovan 11 месяцев назад +8

    In the original I think red lost to green because she tricked him and red wasn’t that serious about it if she didn’t he would have obliterated everyone except for blue yellow and emerald he would still beat them but with extreme difficulty

  • @ninthfloor
    @ninthfloor 11 месяцев назад +4

    glad i found a consistent youtuber who focuses on adventures! question: do you think any of the new dexholders since then would make deep runs into a tournament if it were held now? i think in terms of just battling you're looking at platinum, black, soudo - i might be missing other ones

  • @MaxWelton
    @MaxWelton 10 месяцев назад +1

    It’s so weird to see a frontier battle without everything set to Lv50

  • @johnrodriguez9648
    @johnrodriguez9648 11 месяцев назад +2

    I would love to if it's like the battle frontier rule that all Pokemons entered will be on the same level regardless...

  • @Mikey-ct3qf
    @Mikey-ct3qf 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ruby vs Gold or Sapphire in the finals would be super interesting

  • @stephvondames6369
    @stephvondames6369 11 месяцев назад +3

    I wish we got to see it.

  • @CoolMonkey-yp3hw
    @CoolMonkey-yp3hw 4 дня назад

    You don't understand my excitement when you said red would win

  • @etherios5673
    @etherios5673 10 месяцев назад +9

    Nice video, it's great seeing the adventure manga getting some love. Just a suggestion, can we talk about the wasted potential of Sird (or Saque, or whatever she is called). She was an absolute menace in Fire Red Leaf Green Arc, turn out to be the one behind it all in Emerald Arc, only to be written off screen.

    • @VeeVolt
      @VeeVolt  10 месяцев назад

      She was definitely a badass villain maybe the writers couldn’t use her anymore since team galactic haven’t appeared again either

    • @etherios5673
      @etherios5673 10 месяцев назад

      @@VeeVolt she is shown to blend in and disguise as various villain team member, and the fact that she managed to petrify 5 of the dex holder, including some of the strongest like Red and Blue, actually got me scared when she shows up again in diamond chapter, only for her to be gone again in 3 panels

    • @yashdave7559
      @yashdave7559 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@VeeVolt well I say red vs green
      Red high extreme difficulty
      Cause she is third Dex holders which pokemon reached level 80 and was mostly on par with red and blue
      Red vs dexholders
      Red vs gold - red low - difficulty
      Red vs silver- red low difficulty
      Red vs yellow- red no difficulty
      Red vs ruby - red mid difficulty
      Red vs sapphire- same as result red vs ruby
      Red vs emerald red mid difficulty
      Red vs green- Red high extreme difficulty
      Red vs blue - red high extreme difficulty it could go either way
      If you talk about potential than
      Green has way more potential than blue and red

  • @CosmicKenza
    @CosmicKenza 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great vid! Yellow sweep babyyyyy

  • @afro025
    @afro025 10 месяцев назад +5

    I know you're saying Emerald won thanks to plot armor because the drastic gap in their levels would've made it a clear win for Red...but that's not entirely true. For example, you can still beat Red's team of level 70-80 mons from HGSS even if your team is in the 60s as long as you got the type advantage. And as you said before, Emerald thrives in these Battle Frontier fights and naturally has a clear advantage over Red when it comes to them.
    If it was a full on 6v6, I'm sure Red would win. If it was a life or death battle, I'm sure Red would win. But considering the rulesets of this tournament, along with the fact Emerald canonically wins, and that Red was battling for fun while Emerald clearly wanted to win this last frontier symbol, I just gotta give it to him

  • @delta3265
    @delta3265 11 месяцев назад +2

    The plot compels me to choose Red or Emerald. But my pick would be Blue for the ultimate win.

  • @nascour5991
    @nascour5991 10 месяцев назад +1

    I want it to be red cus I really don't like emerald much at all, but if we're honest it easily could be either. I wish they made a spinoff arc so we could actually see the outcome :/

  • @VeeVolt
    @VeeVolt  11 месяцев назад +24

    Who do you think would win this tournament?🤔

    • @michaelriely430
      @michaelriely430 11 месяцев назад +7

      Probably Blue (male)

    • @JON117.
      @JON117. 11 месяцев назад +10

      Red

    • @Mikey-ct3qf
      @Mikey-ct3qf 11 месяцев назад +17

      yeah red and blue solo ngl they've shown many times they are the greatest dex holders in terms of fighting prowess

    • @dionekirkmanatad1137
      @dionekirkmanatad1137 11 месяцев назад +6

      Red hands down

    • @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
      @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 10 месяцев назад +8

      One would say red, but how did Emerald get the tactics badge? I'm don't think he's the type of person to just take it after losing... would he?

  • @allen2reckless676
    @allen2reckless676 6 месяцев назад

    Gold is what u call a street fighter. In a no rule zone he will win. In a strict rule zone he will have a hard time

  • @knightoftachyon261
    @knightoftachyon261 11 месяцев назад +2

    the name switches got me confuse so I thought Crystal face agenst blue instead of green

  • @sandyjourneys
    @sandyjourneys 11 месяцев назад +1

    I hate how power scaling gets a bad wrap it’s just a nerdy hobby with some bad people in it but people act like it’s the end of the world or some thing just cause they don’t like it.

  • @FireRaiden12
    @FireRaiden12 3 месяца назад

    I believe if all dex holders are allowed then black and blake will wipe the floor with all of them snd they will have the finals and their battle will be really interesting

  • @intergalactic92
    @intergalactic92 11 месяцев назад +1

    2:17 well, I’m going to say this. If it were down to me I would ignore levels. It’s a facility where levels get restricted to keep everyone on an even footing. I still think Yellow would lose, but I don’t think it’s fair, or particularly interesting, to say it’s because of the level disadvantage. On that basis the only people with a chance are Red, blue and Green
    5:15 and you did…….

    • @VeeVolt
      @VeeVolt  10 месяцев назад +1

      I know what you mean but I was trying to think of it as how can levels get restricted in the manga like how does a Pokémon level just decreased since I’m the manga Pokémon are straight up real creatures

  • @DudeHunder
    @DudeHunder 10 месяцев назад +1

    manga content lets go!!!

  • @drewbarth3826
    @drewbarth3826 11 месяцев назад +2

    I say red 100%

  • @ariannaroncato5361
    @ariannaroncato5361 10 месяцев назад

    I Always tought the levels all came down to 50 when you do a tournament. In this condition you think Red could had win anyways?

  • @sobios
    @sobios 9 месяцев назад

    Hey love this videos!!!! Im playing as Diamond rigtig now in my pokemon game, were I will have hes pokemon team from the manga and I will do the same in SH games too and SV

    • @sobios
      @sobios 9 месяцев назад

      But this is Diamond team rigtig?
      Munchlax
      Torterra
      Bastiodon
      Lickilicky
      Mamoswine
      Regigigas
      Rotom

  • @SnowPeaplays
    @SnowPeaplays 8 месяцев назад +1

    Gold best dex holder

  • @werfggttt7152
    @werfggttt7152 Месяц назад

    I think red and blue would tie and that’s why emerald won

  • @paolocalapatia6401
    @paolocalapatia6401 10 месяцев назад

    I did think about How This Tournament would go BUT THEN I find out, it’s One of Those Moments when while We have Theories, in the end We still need ACTUAL Answers🤨🤔
    Before This Tournament, IF You ask me “Who’d Win: Red OR Emerald?”, I’d answer immediately: MY Boi, Red “The Battler”…BUT Then You put into account THIS Tournament and I can’t answer that question cause it’s been confirmed that despite Red & Green/Blue Oak or even Silver & Blue/Green, SOMEHOW Emerald OFFICIALLY WON The DexHolder Tournament thus getting The Tactics Symbol AND beating The Deadline Challenge which means besides The 1 Confirmed Win AND 2 Most Probable Wins, The rest of The Battles may OR may not went to ANY of our expectations😱
    Maybe Sapphire did beat Gold, Maybe Red & Green tied with each other thus taking out each other; OR there’s a very teeny weeny chance MY Boi, Red somehow actually lost to Emerald. These unknowns that are still unanswered are The EXACT reason Why I can NEVER make A DexHolder Strength TierList🤪😓

  • @anguswilson1523
    @anguswilson1523 11 месяцев назад

    Ruby wins out if he uses celebi things mighty change but generally agree

    • @VeeVolt
      @VeeVolt  10 месяцев назад

      He’s doesn’t have celebi anymore

    • @stephvondames6369
      @stephvondames6369 10 месяцев назад

      Also, Celebi can't be used in settings like the Battle Frontier. Man that rule sucks but I understand why.😑😑😑

  • @NatsuDragneel-ii9es
    @NatsuDragneel-ii9es 2 месяца назад

    I think Blue would beat Red honestly

  • @LonggoBonggo
    @LonggoBonggo 6 месяцев назад

    Ngl at this point of the manga i still think ruby is the strongest, most of that is pretty much from the fact that as a child he fended of a salamence and that he caught a celebi.

    • @VeeVolt
      @VeeVolt  6 месяцев назад +1

      Salamence feat was impressive but for celebi he didn’t catch it the Pokémon travelled through time to join rubys side because it knew he was gonna need it’s help

  • @theenvoy6601
    @theenvoy6601 11 месяцев назад

    You’re asking which dex holder would win in the BATTLE tower that requires them to have pokemon BATTLES. Who is the only dex holder that is known as the BATTLER? Would u look at that, it’s Red. Give Emerald all the prep in the world but will still lose because Red has the innate talent for battling. Petrification or not his instincts would kick in the moment the battle starts. Only Blue can realistically keep up among the rest as the goku/vegeta example mentioned

    • @VeeVolt
      @VeeVolt  10 месяцев назад

      Battle dome actually 🤓☝️
      But yeah still it’s fun to think about

  • @Azusagumee
    @Azusagumee 9 месяцев назад

    off topic but 7:01 which chapter is this panel from..?? I feel like i dont remember seeing it
    Like right after gold asked red to train with him in mt silver in gsc arc, ive never seen that panel

    • @VeeVolt
      @VeeVolt  9 месяцев назад +1

      From a special chapter called the mt silver training arc where we see what happens on mt silver between gold and red

    • @Azusagumee
      @Azusagumee 9 месяцев назад

      @@VeeVolt ohh, do u know where i can read it?

  • @aristotleisarocker
    @aristotleisarocker Месяц назад

    Wait they already did this and said emerald win it all

  • @user-fantasy20mk08
    @user-fantasy20mk08 7 месяцев назад

    Ruby vs Blue.

  • @aaronsherman91
    @aaronsherman91 6 месяцев назад

    We all know the real winner is Wally

  • @CourtneyHartman-mm5zz
    @CourtneyHartman-mm5zz 9 месяцев назад

    I think Blue would win he's pretty strong

  • @aliaubreyswink6767
    @aliaubreyswink6767 11 месяцев назад

    I wished you came up with each of there 3 Pokémon they would use but I get that would take long lol but tbh minus plot armor I actually do see a real result being Emerald winning against Red because Red does lose time to time. He’s the best but he isn’t perfect

  • @Setsuna_tenma
    @Setsuna_tenma 2 месяца назад

    Red obliterates every single traimer with his pikachu alone

  • @PaulPopika-vp7gy
    @PaulPopika-vp7gy 6 месяцев назад

    Nah , I still think gold beats emerald

  • @JON117.
    @JON117. 11 месяцев назад +1

    I really hate ploot armer that's way i hate ash coz he is King of plootarmer and i hate about it so i move in the Manga

    • @stephvondames6369
      @stephvondames6369 10 месяцев назад +1

      The characters have plot armor too. Also plot armor is protecting a character from death.

    • @stephvondames6369
      @stephvondames6369 10 месяцев назад +1

      A deus ex machina is someone pulling out something to stop a situation from getting worse.

    • @stephvondames6369
      @stephvondames6369 10 месяцев назад +1

      Your wrong about you said JON117 I just wanted an explanation to you please don't take it as me being rude.

    • @JON117.
      @JON117. 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@stephvondames6369 ash got so much plootarmer all pokefan knew that

    • @mrboerger1620
      @mrboerger1620 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@JON117. Technically that van be said for any protagonist and not really.
      Ash lost most of the things he competed in until alola.

  • @inmybestdaysidontdocrack
    @inmybestdaysidontdocrack 8 месяцев назад

    I would like to see them do something like this again since so many new characters have been brought

  • @Niall_Sene
    @Niall_Sene 11 месяцев назад +3

    I always wanted to see someone cover this concept in depth as I would've loved to see an actual Dex holder tournament. Great work 👏

  • @JON117.
    @JON117. 11 месяцев назад +2

    Red

  • @mechashadow
    @mechashadow 11 месяцев назад +2

    I like how you always explained the winner's side of achievements instead of the Loser with Crystal as the sole exception.
    I guess History is only written by the Victors.

    • @VeeVolt
      @VeeVolt  10 месяцев назад

      It wasn’t on purpose I promise, I talked about sapphire beating the hoenn leaders😭

    • @mechashadow
      @mechashadow 10 месяцев назад

      @@VeeVolt So just those girls then, think I see why lol

  • @devilgirl7054
    @devilgirl7054 4 месяца назад

    Trainer red.
    Hes unbeatable