She slapped a postpartum mother in the stomach (let’s pray she didn’t have a c section) and suggested she lose weight when she dropped a baby 2 months ago. The whole family would have to rip me off her mother in law or not.
If he dead ass thinks his mom wasn’t saying crazy ish to the wife behind his back. He slow. Moms that get weird at the weddings and pregnancies of their son (it’s always the son) is effing weird. Like that ain’t your man.
Fr, she's lucky a punch is ALL she got. You're eat my food AND disrespect me, put you hands on me in my own house? And then the husband obviously didnt stand up for her enough to let it get this far and then has the AUDACITY to tell her to leave? Yeah, time to exit that family. All of that on top of being fresh post partum.... a punch and a divorce is her being nice in my opinion 😂
That must’ve been the straw that broke the camel’s back. I wonder if it’s the husband prioritizing her mother more than the wife consistently (his mom becoming more clingy and seemingly jealous of his PREGNANT wife getting more attention)
It's her house too, you can't kick her out. Fair that you need space but go to another room, go on a walk, go on a drive. Definitely a tip of the iceberg kind of moment for it to lead to divorce.
This is where I take issue with it too. I think it's fair he wanted to decompress immediately after, but he should've just gone for a drive or something and then come back to support his wife. If OP's telling the truth on MIL hitting the wife pretty hard, I consider the wife's actions self-defense - this is a woman who just gave birth, is nursing, is probably so fucking hungry and sleep deprived and feeling uncomfortable in her own home with a MIL who hates her ... I mean God, no wonder she snapped. It's not okay, obviously, but her husband should have very clearly seen it coming and protected his wife from his mother beforehand. This was so avoidable, and he kicked his wife out WITH THE BABY after she was assaulted. Yeah, that would make me look at my husband differently too.
yes! i had the same exact thought. if you need the space, then YOU leave the house for awhile!! don't kick out your POSTPARTUM WIFE AND TWO MONTH OLD BABY! my goodness some people 🙄🙄
Yeah like honestly he could have left if it was that serious. Needing a little time after a family argument isn't wrong. Everybody needed to cool down I think. But to kick your wife out of your shared home??? THAT'S why you're definitively the asshole in this situation.
Slap to stomach is still more mild than punch to face. That being said, wife could have had a c-section, which would definitely escalate even a light stomach slap. But more importantly when yall are married why is it suddenly your house when you're upset, and why when your wife missed all of dinner (let's say like an hour) did you not offer to bring the plate straight to her or check in once. Also, mans clearly doesn't get that this was just a last straw, not her sole reason for divorce.
@raindawnson9254 fr, and she's not sleeping enough to be bouncing back fast by any means, then seeing her being deprived of food and the hubby doubling down on starving his NURSING wife, who needs more food than normal to produce said milk. I have a feeling she's not being properly nourished or allowed to rest very much, considering he put her food in the fridge while she took care of the baby?? Like without checking in on her or bringing her the plate, seems like she has to eat cold leftovers a lot after evryone else bc of the normalcy of that action.
PSA: If a guy demands nudes, breakup! You do not owe those pics to ANYONE. Plus, men share them with other guys, post them online, keep them after the breakup, etc. Smarter NOT to give them, ever. Tbh.
That’s so true. A dude gave me his phone to find photos to post on his dating app account and I’m scrolling and find naked photos of his ex girlfriend from like three years ago. EW! That’s so invasive! You just forgot you had those in your phone when you handed it to me?! If you’re gonna send nudes, ladies, have your head cut out of the photo along with any identifying markings.
Facts!! A friends with benefits told me he shares nudes he gets with his best friends once he breaks up with the girl…. I was like “so you’ve shown mine” and he said no we still hook up now and then… but if you dipped out I would 😳😳😳😳
Honestly when they start demanding anything, no matter how small and seemingly insignificant, its a red flag. Your partner owes you nothing and if they dont meet your standards, you break up. You don’t demand anything. Nobody can demand anything from you
It was also weird for that friend to be all passive aggressive. He could’ve just said : “I would’ve loved to have joined! Maybe we can plan another weekend away next time?” instead of being salty.
@@thirstaefortae5057 right😭😭 AND the guys go on outings alone too, so why is it a problem for the girls and their partners to go? i have a large friendgroup and not every hangout is going to include absolutely everyone in the group, that's normal and not "excluding" someone, especially if it's literally a girls trip
@@ukrivu yeah, it’s sometimes nice to hang out with just a few people and like OP said, it must be hard to plan for 15+ people all the time. Booking for accommodation, tables, travel must be a hassle. Like damn, as I’m typing this out I’m stressed thinking about it 😂
yeah i was disappointed that he didnt really take into account that the "boys" go on their own trips, have their own chat too, and we dont know if they always rely in the girls to plan stuff for the bigger group
Also, that last story is nuts. In what world do you spend someone else's money as your own? Especially something so frivolous as a 50k+ WEDDING. Absolutely tf not
My parents paid for my wedding. I triple checked anytime I did anything and I worked closely with them on all costs. I always offered the cheapest option and it was my mom who insisted on the higher priced items. I come from a very well off family and I was 21 at the time. I would never have dreamed of being so entitled.
not only that but the niece is acting as if she doesn’t got a partner ??? if you and your partner want a big wedding maybe the weight shouldn’t be on one person only (but maybe that’s just me) … concerned that the mother is allowing such behavior
Taking food from a pregnant woman, then slapping her stomach while mocking her is equal to a punch in the eye, in my opinion. Neither was appropriate, but the MIL was being malicious while the wife was being reactionary. The wife felt bad afterward but the MIL said “see she crazy”. the fact that the husband saw his tired, hungry, crying by wife leaning on the counter after being verbally abused by his mom and said “actually I’m the victim here and you need to leave” is CRAZY
I have a feeling there is also a pattern of similar behavior when it comes to his mom that he is either oblivious to, or makes excuses for. This was clearly the wife's breaking point not a one off interaction
I don’t know… one the one hand the mother’s behaviour was unacceptable and totally inappropriate BUT punching her??? That’s a total red flag. Especially because she probably knows about his history. She did not have to escalate the situation like that. I think if that kind of violent behaviour happens chances are it’ll happen again so yeah I think both the mother and the wife are at fault here. He obviously could have left instead of her but I get how in that moment his feelings and past trauma got the better of him…
@@dinner_and_diatribes I get what you’re saying, but his feeling of trauma should’ve been triggered a long time ago when his mother first started mistreating his wife, then again when she took her food, verbally abused her, and slapped her stomach. The wife’s lunch was NOT the first instance of violence here, it was just a different kind of violence. I agree that punching the MIL was wrong, but I don’t think it was any more wrong than what the MIL did.
Check the comments in his last ooga booga video, it was full of British people saying cow wasn’t derogatory when he said it was. That’s what he’s referring too
@@IsabelleReadsit is but he was really doubling down on how terrible the use of this word was where the guy had been like “she’s a bit of a cow” or whatever which I think a lot of us were like “yeah sometimes people say that who cares” 😂😂and if I remember correctly..she was indeed a right cow so….😂😂😂
Same!! I'm 26 and live with my family because it's just convenient for everyone and I contribute by buying groceries and stuff with my own money. Never heard of parents charging rent...
I'm too latina for that story😂 my parents would have let me live with them forever if I wanted to. I lived with them until I was 25, obviously contributed but it was because I wanted to I was never charged for anything (other than buying my own stuff)
@@celenawatkins8793 I feel like asking someone to step up financially, to help out with buying groceries or paying certain bills every month is one thing, but having a set price of rent? It feels more like a landlord situation than a family
The wild bit of the last one is we only booked such an expensive wedding because we thought you were paying! Usually when you known someone else is paying you would try and book things cheaply because it’s not your money. Even if they thought he was paying for it all they didn’t ask him what the budget was before putting down deposits? They clearly are too irresponsible to get married.
I'd be so f-ing grateful for 15g's... I have trouble imagining such generosity. W 15g's... I could plan an amazing wedding... start to finish. I think mine was 2g's total. So ya... she's the greedy A- hole... assuming he doesn't have Trump $$$, of course... & really wasn't making big claims before backing out) which I doubt. & she's ruined the good feeling you get by helping out someone you love. She's a selfish ruiner & I hope she wakes up bloated on her wedding day... and can't zip up her dress. At all. And cries until she ruins her makeup. Lol. No underwear at a funeral? Whos going to even know that? Grow up. And the MIL who caused drama throughout the pregnancy & called her DIL fat while SLAPPING HER belly was BEGGING to be punched in the face. Dude should have shut down his crazy mom long ago rather than letting her disrespect his wife in her own house... but instead he lets the tension build until his wife finally snaps... & then he proceeds to tell HER to leave her own house for finally defending herself because HE needs space? Eww. I'd give him ALL the space... sounds like him & his mommy are both lacking boundaries and maturity... and have zero class. Way to destroy your new family... as a family. Enjoy your space... and remember... when you feel sad & lonely... you asked for it. Demanded it, really. I could never be attracted to a 'man' like that. She made the right choice. 1,000%
If someone is offering to pay for your wedding, I don't think you even have to worry about going as cheap as you could, but simply including the person who is paying into the planning. Or ask what is the total sum they'd be willing to offer, and build from that. That way they can bring out their opinions, tell if something would be way out of the budget, communicate with the couple... Very easy and basic social skills that probably will include compromises, but would still create a very nice wedding. But nah... The ladies in the story decided that manipulation is the way to proceed here. :D
As another woman with biggies, I can attest that we do indeed plop them onto convenient surfaces without even noticing, coz breaking your spine to hold them biggies up all damn day is exhausting
I agree. And sometimes they just naturally fall there. Wr can’t help that. To me, it sounded like the guy friends understood that and why they didn’t comment on it. Hoping that is it and not them being secret sleazes who enjoyed seeing her big boobs all of the time. The girl being insecure and jealous was the a-hole in this situation.
@@gabrielleduplessis7388 and you shouldn't have to "help it"! Boobs are not genitals, you can put them wherever you want, and if people sexualise that it's entirely on them, that person was an asshole! :)
@@gabrielleduplessis7388For sure, and also if you have big boobs, you know how annoying it is that people bring attention to them, so I appreciate the friends not making a big deal out of it.
@@luxuriouswishesno literally mine are medium ish but I always just kinda prop them up onto the most convenient counter 🤷♀️ also I have a longer torso so when I sit at a table they are usually just in the right place lol
15:20 her saying “she doesn’t belong in OUR life” is just the proof of unhealthy attachment of his mom to him, the whole time she felt like “he is hers only” and hated the wife for having a life with him separate from her
@@meidoesthings I don't know which episode it was, but their most notorious one was when OP's wife had gestational diabetes and couldn't eat any of her pregnancy cravings, so she cried when OP kept eating her favorite foods in front of her. She was fine with him eating that food on his own time, but he made no effort in hiding it from her. THT took the side of OP being a victim of a controlling wife, when all she did was cry because she's pregnant and wanted a donut or a cheeseburger and her husband would wolf all those things down in front of her without considering how badly she was craving those exact items but couldn't because of the side effects of their collective pregnancy. It was rough and Morgan is still huffy about the comment section on that one. Edit: the episode is called "Is it really a big deal?", and the Reddit post itself is called "AITA for secretly eating takeout food my pregnant wife cannot eat because she has gestational diabetes?"
One thing to note about the guy who told his wife to leave after she punched her MIL, is that after giving birth a woman is healing and slapping her stomach would be INCREDIBLY painful. MIL gave birth before and presumably knows this. She wasn't just making fun of her DIL, she was intentionally hurting her. If someone slapped my post partum belly on purpose I'd sock them in the face too.
Apparently DIL has a c-section too but somehow he thought her punching MIL is worse? They would have to drag me away from her tf hell I don’t have a kids and I know how painful c-section is but the MIL didn’t and just slaps her stomach to prove to him that she “doesn’t belong” to their lives and to keep him to herself?
Thats the problem with all of these pregnancy stories. The guys always seem to underestimate what pregnancy and giving birth actually does to a woman. Like this guy, he doesnt think to fathom the hardships his wife went through during the pregnancy, bc its not a pain he will ever have to deal with. Guys (i guess i have to preface not ALL guys) tend to sympathize with pains that are susceptible to them, such as getting punched in the face, but tend to overlook pain they dont deal with. The MIL probably knew what types of pain DIL was going through and knew her son probably wouldnt fully understand so she got in her cheap shot under the guise of a tasteless joke, the DIL punching her just being the cherry on top. Its just disgusting how all of this went down and the dude is going to have to do a lot of graveling if he ever wants the change to save his marriage
No he shouldn't have. He had every right to kick her out of the house. You don't EVER punch someone in the face like that unless you're getting physically attacked. The wife was clearly in the wrong
@@MMS954it wasn’t „a little slap on the belly“ though?!! First of all it was a slap and second of all, she’s literally *visibly* pregnant and was protecting her baby and herself, that’s just good instinct
I felt the girl with biggies story in my soul. Sometimes they get in the way and we subconsciously shift them, homegirl probably didn’t even realize she was doing it 😭
That fiance was a paranoid monster. OP did nothing wrong and she just wanted to lash out at the only woman there. I do DND with friends and some of my friends have biggies and we don't give a crap! It's the dumbest thing to shame the poor OP for.
Same! I'm almost completely flat, but STILL I have to adjust where I place my chest since pressing that kind of tissue and glands against a table really hurts, just more or less depending on the time of month. This poor girl is walking around carrying all that weight AND gets bullied for doing just about the only thing she can do when reaching across a table?
Also with the story of the husband kicking out the wife with their newborn child because he needed to decompress.... he didn't kick her out of his house, they're married. It's also her home. So in this state where she's already tired and vulnerable, he kicked her out of the place she's supposed to find comfort and stability, and didn't provide support as the one person who should be the person supporting her:(
As someone who has a large mixed guy/girl friend group separate events are normal for us? In our group, not every event is always planned for everyone, especially for guys and girls. Also, OP stated that the guys go on their own trips so it's not really any different in my opinion. I know if a situation happened like this amongst my friends and one of the guys was hurt by it they would just say 'Hey, next time I'd be interested in doing this with y'all' and we'd say 'ok sounds fun'. Overall, I think the communication from both sides throughout this whole story is kinda dramatic, especially the 'thanks for the invite' part.
They did imply that the boys had “boys trips” somewhere in the middle. Stood out to me too, because why take offence then? I understand the girlfriends being mad though; if the male partners are included in the boys chat, I would expect to be included in the girls chat.
@@excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339 i think she just is not taking accountability of anything, just say yes we didnt want the guys their, and say sorry when your friend is expressing his feelings. not "if" ur upset.. dont give excuses, "like you plan too", she never mentioned he never tolds them about the boys only events
There is a significant difference between not being invited to small events like a movie, dinner etc. that might be more spontaneous and a big fun travelling trip that probably took days or weeks to plan, with enough time to invite everyone and you actively choosing to not invite what you consider "good friends" in a group Boys/ girls hangouts is not the same issue because it has a specific purpose. Like when all the hikers in a group plan a hiking trip among themselves or something similar. But when you're straight up planning a trip and inviting what sounds like 80% of people and leaving out 20%, and especially when it happens more than once with the same people getting left out, it's hurtful If you're a good friend that's valued within the group you'll be invited, and not being invited sends exactly that message, you are not as valued within the group. Having to ask to be included in something a good friend (her words) would usually include you in has never been fun ever. No one wants to be just an afterthought to a good friend.
For the slap story, keep in mind that women are recovering from birth. Especially if she had a c-section. If that is the case, her stomach was literally cut open. So I’m not saying that violence should have been her response, I don’t want to minimize the assault to a little slap that couldn’t hurt her. And if she is currently pregnant, which I was confused if she was or wasn’t, that is truly like slapping a baby. Miscarriages can happen from hitting a stomach.
@@coalvarner1813 not really convenient. It was 2 months ago. If she’s having pain or the incision didn’t heal by 2 months post op, the mother did her a favour and she should get that check.
@kikialeaki1850 full recovery between 4 to 6 weeks, and that will still vary person to person. They cut her all the way open to pull something fairly large out and she doesn't get the rest needed to heal bc of the newborn. Even OP in his original post says he saw her wince in pain. Either she's in pain because the surgical site is still tender and it got SLAPPED (even by his own admission, so it was probably harder than he's letting on since he left out the surgery part too). Or she winced because her body is still in trauma from being cut open, and it hurt the normal amount that being "lightly" assaulted does while also scaring her. I'm glad you know her body well enough that you can exclude his own omission of seeing her in pain, what's your relation to her family?
@@coalvarner1813 obviously it varies. That’s why it should be checked to make sure it’s just healing related and not further injury or infection related. If recovery is between 4-6 weeks, that means MOST people recover during that time. So, again, outside of that time frame warrants a check up. I’m not claiming to know her body or claiming that she wasn’t in pain lol.
14:30 you know, USUALLY, people who need space take themselves out of the situation by getting a hotel, hiding in the bathroom or locking themselves in their bedroom and don't demand their wives and newborn baby to leave 🙄
Yes exactly. My dad was also abusive, so I can see the ptsd side of things. But it is 100% YOUR responsibility to remove yourself from a situation if it triggers you. You have to learn how to deal with triggers and emotions in a healthy way
that comment you made about the parent needing to learn how to communicate with their kid was so validating. im so sick of kids being expected to act like adults while adults can get away with acting like children (not that its applicable to that aita post abt the larper person, but in general). you're not perfect, dylan, but i appreciate the way you appraise situations to the best of your abilities and find nuances. you're not trying to be extreme, smth even I'm guilty of doing. this aita felt particularly entertaining, thx to the troublemakers who sent these in!!! ps. i have a lot of sympathy for the h cups girl 😭😭
definitely cultural (i'm from Europe) but the AITA with the mom basically being a landlord is so crazy to me ?? i'm in my twenties, i work pt/have a scholarship so i help out my parents for groceries and other stuff. but they don't ask me to pay for my room ⚰⚰ i can't even comprehend that tbh. living with our parents even until our early thirties is quite common
i get that and i'm in a very similar circumstance to yours, BUT i think if my mom was refusing to treat me like an adult and telling me what to do i would simply get a full time job and find a way to move out with a friend or something. this lady's children clearly have no issue with reaping the benefits of being treated like kids and are enabling the weird family dynamics
Same, every parent treats the house as if it's the kid's house too. I never understood the "we made you and let you stay here for free, now it's time to pay the rent" lmao. I've read about people asking for money for all the years the kids didn't pay (since birth) and like ??? Here it's OUR house, not my parents house. Also people buying properties from their parents if they want to live there (if they have multiple houses or something), that would be unheard of here.
I'm from Europe too (Germany) and I have friends, who kept living at their parents house in their 20s and their parents expected them to pay rent too. A very low rent, but still. The parents reasoning was to have the kids learn this way to still care for themselves financially - at least a bit, because the rent was cheaper than if they had moved out. But they weren't fully supported by their parents. Generally speaking in Germany it's very rare and often kind of looked down upon if people stay in their parents home for longer than ~18-20 years. Unless it's for the reason of caring for the parents or something like that. But if there is no such reason, it's usually being judged as being too dependent on the parents, too much of a mommies/daddies boy/girl etc.. But I guess this German culture is influenced by the fact that it's easier to move out than many other countries. University is basically free, there is a good social security system etc. So financial reasons are usually not a big factor.
First story: just say "Sorry, I didn't think through the ramifications of my actions or consider your feelings. I will try to be more considerate in the future." The end. Friendship restored.
@@zaandash125 I just had this conversation with a friend recently. She had a party, but asked everyone invited to keep it a secret so the people she didn't invite don't find out about it. I was like what, why would anyone care, you should invite people you want to invite, I would feel embarrassed to comment on it or be openly angry if someone didn't invite me.. Well, people found out and were calling her out, angry, same as this guy. I really don't get it, I don't feel entitled to anyone's invite and I don't think it's a reason to get angry and get into a fight like this.
I think it’s more like Dylan was saying, she didn’t apologize for not including them and making them feel left out but said “sorry if you’re upset about it”. I’ve been in this situation before and it sucks bc it’s not usually about the trip or anything like that it’s more about the fact they think you’re wrong for feeling upset you were intentionally left out of something with friends you trusted and make plans around/with all the time. Kind of a narcissistic response on her end.
Reciprocity is the key to quality relayionships. You invite or accept invitations know you expect the same. It sucks doing your part only to get snubbed amd jilted. a@@bugdrawsportraits
@@bugdrawsportraits i think it's only a problem IF you keep it secret like that. it makes it so much more dramatic when you could have just said 'we're going on a girl's trip next week' or whatever and been done with it, but keeping it secret makes it sound like you're specifically avoiding people.
STOP I can’t believe they’re complaining about “only” 15k😭 that was literally the cost of my out of country wedding including flights, dress and rings 😭😭😭
3:12 did he even read what she said? She said the other guys frequently do their own thing. So they can have boys trips and exclude the women but when the girls do it they’re hurt?
@@bunji_beansnot necessarily thought? She said they have a boys group chat and the only reason she knows is because of her boyfriend. The boys didn’t tell the girls about that it sounds like, so secrets on both sides
@@Imjustkendall it does not matter. she and 7 other people planned a secret trip, went out of their way not to let the OG dudes know abt a huge vacation, and then she got so dramatic "oh, I see Tim in a whole new light". Like girl, wtf did you expect?
that's the thing though, the women are excluded on an 'all guys trip', but for the girls trip, all of them except one invited their partners, therefore making it NOT an 'all girls trip'. On top of that, I would feel kinda bad for the one girl who didn't have a partner, would feel super third wheeling all the time.
The one with the niece’s wedding pissed me off so much. I used to be very generous with friends - and then they literally cut me off 1 time i said i couldnt do them a favor. The favor? Letting them rent my parents apartment for a way discounted rate. It wasnt even my decision, it was my parents. But thats what happens when they begin to expect you to do things for them and were never grateful for the times you did help them
As someone who also has size H+ boobs in the process of getting a reduction, I totally get it! I find myself subconsciously putting them on the table all the time to take some of the weight off my back 😂. People don’t understand how terrible of an experience it is to have boobs this big… Definitely not the asshole for this!!
Absolutely! I “only” have to deal with E cups and yet I sometimes do that, because it’s nice to give your back a break once in a while. With anything F and up? You can’t really NOT put them anywhere, because they’re just… there… all the time. Hope everything goes well with your reduction 🧡
I don't have this particular issue myself but I have a 1 year old who wants to be carried pretty much everywhere and you'd better believe I put her down or rest my arm on something whenever possible. I imagine having a similar weight protruding from your body at all times is relentless...
3:40 So correct me if I'm wrong but the poster's boyfriend is in the Boy's chat but none of the core boys female partners are in the Girl's chat??? Cause it's implied before that they didn't know the trip was happening right??
12:10 you don’t kick your wife out. Sleep on the couch and discuss it in the morning if you need space. That’s insane. And I would talk to the mother for sure and create rigid boundaries.
He did go no contact w the mom but yeah kicking out your 2 month postpartum wife and your newborn is crazy. I also think that the punch to the face was just reactionary. Not saying it was right, but it’s implied that before the pregnancy was over, mil was making mean comments and this one tipped wife over the edge. He also only went no contact after the whole issue. He should have set boundaries before the pregnancy was over when the comments started. Maybe he did, but mil didn’t learn her lesson.
48:50 wait wait wait. You thought that someone else was paying for it so you made the wedding extravagant and expensive? Is it just me or would I not wanna burden the helper to much and thus make it cheaper on purpose
Right? 15k is a fuckload of money and I’d be crawling on my knees thanking them profusely. My ENTIRE wedding costs less than 15k. The fact that they dare to complain at all is ludicrous.
story 1: NTA, you don’t owe each of your friends an invite to every hangout. An airbnb for 15+ people is different than an airbnb with 5 rooms that happen to have double beds. Plus if it’s just girls and partners, it’s just girls and partners. That’s not the same as a complete friend group hang out, it’s a different vibe. And they hang out all together all the time. This is one event where only some of the group is invited. They’ll live. Plus like she said, the guys go off and do stuff together too. They can’t act like they’re owed an invite to every hangout when they don’t extend one every time either. People act so entitled to other people’s time it’s crazy. If you have a friendgroup of 15 people, you can’t honestly expect all 15 to be invited to everything. story 2: YTA. wife is 100% in the right, husband shouldn’t have kicked her out for defending herself. If he needed time to process, he shouldve taken space for himself, not demanded that his wife leave their home when they have a newborn. story 3: NTA obviously story 4: yea YTA, if no undies is fine for every other day, then it’s definitely fine when he’s grieving. The dead body in the casket doesn’t GAF if he’s wearing underwear. Yea sure it’s a lil weird, but she picked the WORST moment to put her foot down. She shouldve been there to support her husband and made her stand about undies another day if it bothered her sm. story 5: NTA she needs to dump this trash man. You’re never in the wrong for having boundaries about your own actions and what you feel comfortable doing for your partner. He’s trying to coerce her into sending noods through manipulation. Just awful. story 6: obvi tell your roomates if you’re installing camera’s where they live tf? story 7: yea mom’s not doing a great job. story 8: they need to have a lengthy convo. story 9: the niece is being crazy entitled. OP has already been so generous, and here they are demanding more??? absolutely preposterous. NTA.
I think person 1 isn’t an asshole for planning the vacation, but is an asshole for how she treated her friends afterwards. They’re allowed to feel hurt and excluded when they were, in fact, excluded. This woman came to Reddit seeking validation for being selfish/refusing to have empathy for ppl who have allegedly been her friends for a long time. “I see Tim in a new light” girl get over yourself. Adult egoism at its finest
For story 1, her actions afterwards were asshole-ish, "I see Tim in a different light now" She could have simply stated she wanted to have a trip with her partner but want some of her gf's to come too, and they could bring their partners to feel comfortable. But no, she's saying this is a girl's trip. This 'girls' trip includes the partners of the original girl side of the group (rip the singles actually there for a girls trip) and excuses not informing the others about it as it was said in the girls group chat whilst the guys have her partner in their group chat, not vice versa. It's not about too many people, girls or boys, original or extended, it's about the common decency to let them know. She allowed her gf's to bring partners she wasn't as close to but couldn't invite her actual close bf's partners to a 'girls trip'. This whole thing would be cleared up so easy if she just said "my bad, sorry I hurt your feelings" instead of excusing everything. For story 2, I mostly agree with you but that was not self defense, a belly slap met with a full punch isn’t self defense, even the wife knew that, hence she felt bad. And if he isn’t lying about his history of domestic violence, I get him needing space and kicking her out cause he needed space, with his mom's face bleeding, that wasn't his wife in that moment that was his abuser. Anywho even he knew he was wrong and pregnancy is a sensitive time. Periods make me cranky, I can't imagine being 2 months out of the hospital, sleep deprived cause of said baby and deprived my fucking food. I'm ashamed to say I'd lash out in some way too. Though I hope they do therapy if he wasn’t lying, divorce seems intense so early in, especially since both were in sensitive times and he did cut off his mom
i disagree abt story 1... she mislead 4 people and then got upset when they called her bluff. Sure, she can have an girls night or even an all girls night + partners... but she needs to at least be honest with the other dudes and not pretend like nothing's changed.
i’m 20 and my mom doesn’t pressure me to move out at all… and i think charging your kids 100$ a week is kinda insane for rent … like my sister is currently staying with us (and her kids) and she pays on bills and gets household stuff.. but doesn’t have to pay rent … its just kinda insane to me how some ppl treat their kids like tenants instead of yk.. their literal offspring
similar age/situation and ikr, right? maybe it's just because the housing situation where i live is completely bonkers, but I'm pretty sure (especially given the mother's behaviour...) that if the kid in the story could move out, they would. the housing/job market is shit rn, why should it be unusual to support your family?
Ok? What about a 25 year old working full time not contributing at all and spending all their money on name brand stuff and looking wealthy or a video game addiction or something? How about 30? 35? You’re a grown up. Good for you your parent can afford to fully care for you but that’s not the case for everyone
@@bogwife7942not everyone can afford to support their adult children fully? She’s charging less than rent ALONE would be let alone all the bills and food etc etc
@@beanybabyrabie you are making up hypotheticals beyond the scope of what is being discussed. the premise here was "why would you charge rent to a family member who contributes to the household?" you're talking about something completely unrelated. communal living at any age is nothing new, and as long as everyone involved is happy with the arrangement, why should it matter if someone lives with their parents in their 30s?
That husband just 100% leaving out something BIG that will make him look like trash by just the way the wife just decided to divorce him. She was DONE!
Oh the thing about the MIL slapping the guy’s wife in the stomach is she just had a baby too 😭 her FIRST one too, she was probably still coming to terms with her body changing because of it, and hearing that must have made her emotional, especially after it seems like the MIL had been rude to her before that for a while already. I’m not saying punching was a good thing to do, just that I understand she was probably really emotional and it escalated.
it's worse when you know the mom has a mama's boy complex and is extremely insecure of the wife. It felt intentional af. and to be kicked out of ur own house bc ur husband needs the whole ass house to fucking "think"
@@EpicNoobSofiya kicked out his own new born as well. I'm so glad she's divorcing him too bc he left out of the main post that she'd just been cut open with a C section, just to make himself look better because Holly ish, that's assault!!!
(first story) I'm so confused.. they wanted a girls trip but there was enough space IN THE GIRLS BEDROOMS for their partners, so they came as well. How difficult is that to understand? Tim and the other guys COULD NOT COME unless they were sleeping in the girls rooms lol because there was not enough bedrooms for all of them. getting a bigger Airbnb would cost MUCH more (if they were even able to find one with 9 bedrooms!) and probably be located somewhere else, changing the entire trip. Tim needs to be asked if he and others WERE invited, where would they sleep? shes not the AH in that situation at all (unless you count her fake apology?) but even then because there just isn't anything to apologize for.. its just so straight forward lmao.
My only issue is that she/they should have let them know about the trip before hand, specifically because of how much of the friend group was involved, and the fact that it wasn’t really a girls trip (the female partners of the guys weren’t invited but their male partners were). Having the trip is fine, but it sucks to find out a good portion of your friend group is on a trip from social media, rather than from them. Makes you feel left out
the issue is that she invited over half of the friend group, some of which I imagine were not even OG, and then those 8 people kept it a secret from some of the OG dudes... like wtf???? Sure, it is not technically wrong, but it feels really scummy for the people who were not told. And then she was like "oh, I see Tim in a whole new light" after 1 minor incident. She is so dramatic. But also Tim could've handled it better instead of a passive aggressive comment.
The first one is crazy because the op isn’t obligated to invite a friend group of 15 ppl. 15 isn’t a small number. IMO it rlly isn’t a big deal. Op doesn’t have to always invite EVERYONE of the huge friend group. But I do get the feeling of being left out of your own friend group. THAT BEING SAID, they are grown people in their 20s. Get new friends. Have a fun life instead of being passive aggressive with your existing friends and make the entire friendship salty. The guy should have initiated another hang out instead of ruining the “girls” trip.
IMO their feelings are valid especially when the core four guys weren’t invited. If it was just girls I would agree even the guys’ partners weren’t invited so i can’t imagine how those girls felt either. Also your comment about them being grown people in their 20s doesn’t make sense your feelings don’t shut off when you’re 20
@@draculajinnie5306 see that’s the thing. No one’s right here. Plans change often, especially last minute. And this isn’t about feelings but rather maturity. The friend could’ve handled it better with op instead of replying with a salty dm
@@draculajinnie5306feelings can be valid, but it doesn’t mean that they’re the AH for doing it. And when you’re an adult, your feelings are your responsibility & not always someone else’s, and there are some times where your feelings aren’t proportional to the issue and I think this is one of them. OP said the guys plan trips & go out on their own, yet when the girls do it it’s an issue? It sounds like “I wanna be able to do it, but don’t like when you do” which isn’t fair. Eta: And if they invited the guys’ partners, then they would HAVE to invite the guys (cause they invited their own partners, so it’s not like they can say “well, no guys are going) and at that point, might as well. The main reasons seem that they invited their own partners because it doesn’t need to add any more beds / accommodation. But if you invite 2-3 more women, then that’s 2-3 more rooms bigger AirBNB you need to find. And at that point, then you have to invite the single friends (seems to be 1-2 single guys) or else you’re excluding them for not having a partner. Now you’re going from 5 rooms to 8-9, which is a lot more expensive and very hard to find an airbnb for. If they opened it up, then they’d have to invite everyone so I think how they split it up makes sense
i just don’t understand why they didn’t notify other guys they were going on a trip, if they all like each other? “hey, us girls booked bnb and are gonna take partners due to free space, wanna look for other bnb nearby?” like they’d probably say no bc it’s an annoyance to plan, but why not invite them in general?
He didnt “ruin” the girls trip. He found out that half the friend group and their SO’s were on a trip through social media and commented in it. The mood “soured” because of OP All any of them had to do was simply text a message in the shared group chat saying the girls were going on a trip. If he got pissy after that then thats on him
How did he not point out that the guy insisting on nudes is literally abusing his gf.... that's straight-up manipulation, and she should dump him immediately
@@marissajb9855 Planning a trip with certain friends is fine, but the way she tried to frame it was a straight up lie. It was not a "girl's trip" like she was claiming. It was basically a trip with the friends she liked the most
@@tmm4195it was initially meant as a girls trip, so no she didn’t lie. And they had enough space to invite their partners, so then it went from a girls trip to a couples trip. It’s that simple.
@@tmm4195 I think you’re adding context where there isn’t. It was a girls trip with *their husbands* - I go back to my previous point of, people are allowed to plan things without you
@@tinanana- My point is that she then should’ve stopped claiming it as a girls trip when realistically it wasn’t. Like I said what she did wasn’t wrong to plan the trip, but how she handled it after was wrong
ok for the first story tho we're totally glossing over that the guys apparently also hang out on their own without including the girls...i feel like tim getting that upset over not getting an invite to the girl's trip when they have boys trips all the time is a lil fucked up
I feel like Tim would've been fine if it was just a girls trip but when they ended up inviting the partners too then it's stops being a girls trip. The friend group is around 15 people and 9 went on the trip so 2/3 of the friend group hung out without them. I do feel like Tim did make it a bigger deal than it needed to be and he should have talked to them properly rather than being passive aggressive
I feel like if any of the girls quickly just said “hey we’re going on a girls trip and will probably bring our boyfriends to make it a big core girlie date night from this day till this day” cause I guess from Tim’s point it seems like the girls were purposely trying to be secretive and do something behind their friends’ back (gender split aside) since none of the other main 4 guys knew as the 5 girls didn’t say anything, the 5 girls didn’t post about it at all until OP did, and it seems to be like none of the 5 girls’ partners said anything either to the core 4 guys even though the 4 core guys + 5 girls’ boyfriends have a boys group chat so it looks like 10 people purposely did *not* want to tell the main 4 dudes and went out of their way to make sure the core 4 guys don’t find out vs just quickly saying “hey us girls we’re just gonna do this small thing for us and our partners” so that way the 4 core guys know why they weren’t invited and why it’s nothing personal. But from what’s presented Tim does seem to be a bit sensitive about it even after the situation is explained~ which granted OP could have explain a bit better.
I think tim is being so extra, i have a friend group with a simmilar dynamic and it has never been an issue if us "core girls" did our own thing without the guys and vice versa
Yeah, the whole underwear situation never should have been a thing. You’ve been together that whole time and you choose the day of the guy’s funeral to challenge him when he’s grieving? Like you said, he’s clean in general. No one is going to pants him or something. Let it go for now
Yeah, like, if it was a turn off for you from the beginning, why stay? And if you stayed, it means it wasn't that big of a deal. And if it isn't that big of a deal, then why, of all days, you decided to bring it up and give him an ultimatum the day of his grandfather's funeral? It just seems so calculated and heartless to be that specific day.
The mother in law 100% brought the punch on herself and he brought the divorce on himself by kicking his wife and infant child out. HE needed space?? His wife was just assaulted, what about her needs???
The preg wife thing. I'm an only child to my mom and I very distinctly remember giving a tiny slap (cause I was like 3 or 4) and thought its haha funny as a toddler. But I remember her wincing in pain cause she had surgery (a c section) and also removal of the womb due to issues. so pretty bad and I can imagine it. (yup my mom reacted with a yell but didnt raise a hand on me). I immediately (as 3/4 yr old) understood she wasnt feeling it as a joke and then I softly petted her belly.. So, I imagine something similar happened and all the pent up insults + physical pain attested to her falcon punching her mother-in-law. But the husband is icing on cake to say get the feck out at that time with a 2 month new born.... anyone would divorce and heartbroken.
It’s odd he never mentioned a c section which suggests to me his mom was really wrong and he’s trying to save face OR she didn’t have a C section, dislikes the mom and saw her opportunity to be an aggressor
40:41 as a gay man myself, our dating culture is super different from straight dating culture. Here’s the thing: in a friend group of 5-7 gay men, two (or more) have hooked up with each other, more than half of them met through a dating app, and _you_ have been physically and/or romantically entangled with _at least_ one of your friend’s extended friends. It’s very normal to meet with non-platonic intentions and become entirely platonic later on. My most recent ex is still one of my best friends 🤷🏼♂️
Absolutely correct about the other people paying for you. If you offer to pay for anything, like lunch, Im getting water and the cheapest thing. I had a friend that would order cocktails, apps, and like desert, on top of another drink. Im happy to pay but also, ordering and expecting so much feels like taking advantage
@@astrowolvez Oh I know. If someone is paying, I get a small with nothing on it, unless they insist and then you do not want to be rude. BUT ONLY if they insist. Like, racking up someone's tab because they are being nice is an impolite thing to do
I love love love your takes because youre always a peace maker at heart and are understanding even when ppl make mistakes, which is the opposite of what I see constantly of ppl immediately escalating situations and becoming combative
@@maximiliancordedda Of course I do, but those things don't make me happy. Also, I'm from Ukraine and I read bad news and experience bad stuff every day, Dylan's videos are one of the few things that can distract me. Do you have a problem with me finding happiness in his videos?
36:50 ill never understand parents charging their children rent like what? and "owing us" bcz they werent working at that time? thats insane edit: im definitely not talking about struggling families who need their children to help out with rent and other stuff, that case is totally different, however this aita post, it looks like the family's well off so..
As an Ethiopian this was probably the most insane AITA i’ve seen on here 😭 Charging your children no matter their age is absolutely unheard of in our culture. If anything children (especially women) typically live with their parents well into their 20s to save money or until they have a reason to move out (like marriage) RENT FREE 💀
I disagree, I think it installs responsibility and a habit to manage and prioritize your expenses. Clearly her younger two children can manage to keep their end of the bargain. They’re all adults with jobs, not children who can’t survive on their own. And they aren’t even being charged a crazy amount, rent now averages 1,500 depending on where you live. The parents aren’t charging them out of spite. In my opinion OPs eldest child needs to either get a new FT job or simply cut down of some of their hobbies until they can get their money problems in order. Edit: I will say OP restricting their car use as if they were a child was not a great choice.
I pay rent to my parents but that was my idea. I insisted on it and I wanna help around the house anytime they need me. It's my way of showing how much I appreciate them but also giving me some independence. I lived in an apartment for 5 years but had some health issues and moved back. I like being able to pay the rent and living my own life but also spending time with my parents. What I read just now for AITA is a parent who is DEMENTED.
@@kindakomplicated4537 exactly mine too, like unless its for college or marriage its totally fine and lowkey expected of u to still be living with ur parents
At this point I’m learning new words through Dylan. It’s just a real hit or miss because I either will learn something new or I’m going to embarrass myself using a word that doesn’t exist because of him 😂
excuse me. Platonic good morning texts definitely are a thing because I've been sending one to both of my best friends for years and I've just added another friend to them
Not a fan of good morning texts, but I don't think there's anything romantic/sexual about it. But here, the male friend did confess his feelings to the gf just some months back.
In the context of the post, I think it is a little sus because the person admitted feelings. It's not platonic for the other guy, there is a motive. Otherwise, yes, I completely agree.
it's kind of ironc with the parent with the adult children living with them, that instead of trying to make them more independent they punish them by making them even less independent.
The first story is complete ridiculous. Typical behavior of immature people, which I guess is expected considering the age of OP (I'm assuming they're all around the same). The fact that you are in a big friend group doesn't mean you're obligated to every single thing with all of the people in that group, geez.
Thats not why Tim was mad, Keila. Imagine how you might feel if 8 of your friends planned a vacation behind your back, all 8 never mentioned it to anyone else in the friend group, and then got all dramatic when you confront them ("I see Tim in a whole new light") like wtf.
Bruh the first one should not be labeled as an asshole, if the core girls want to go on a trip with their boyfriends they should have every right to do that 🤷♀️ Why should they be obligated to invite their guy friends that’s just weird
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The one with the parent made me like UNREASONABBLY mad. maybe its bc i dont have that type of relationship with my parents where they're like calculating everything like that on a strict budget plan but it just came off as strange. dont get me wrong i understand paying the rent and gas and stuff but it becoming so strict that they aren't allowed to go this event because the "owe you" money? it really rubs me the wrong way like theyre ur kids, if you have a problem with the living arrangements maybe stop charging them and let them save enough to move out. (that part about the banning them from seeing their friends makes me really upset like dawg if theyre paying rent idk if u should be able to ground and them shit )😭
Especially in this economy too, everything is expensive and finding jobs has been worse than ever! I spent a whole 2 years looking off a decent job and couldn't even find a full-time. Not to mention some jobs you HAVE to start at part-time to be promoted to full-time! That whole situation screams controlling parents.
the mom and adult children .. like wtf? you make your own children pay rent? thank god I was born in Latin America where we live with our parents for as long as we need, because they actually want us to stay... Here family actually means something and I paid bills because I wanted to help my family, not because I needed to pay rent. btw, I left my house already, but because I wanted to, not because I was obliged. Still I'll always call it 'my house', because that's what it is, my home.
Right? I'm from Europe (no need to specify the country) and it's so odd to me because my dad asked me to move BACK with them (and take my husband with me) because he want to have his family close
Its pretty normal here, bills cost money. Not having any sort of responsibility can lead to laziness and unemployment. Most parents are just afraid their kids will get complacent and unproductive. Ive had a job since 11 and had to pay bills.
@@puppet_society bills cost money everywhere in the world. It's not like I'm not paying my bills or for my food because I do, but I don't have to pay rent. And living together is cheaper overall, because you can buy food in bulk and pay less when you split it into two households. My parents had to pay for heating the whole house anyway but now they are paying only half of the heating costs and we pay the other half. The internet bill is the same no matter if 2 or 4 people are using it, so again - it's literally half of the price when split between two couples, than when my parents had to pay it only by themselves. Any fixing/renovation/etc - again my parents would have to pay the whole cost if they were living by themselves but with us they are paying only half. All of this is not "paying rent" but simply splitting a bill because it's not only theirs house, we live here too so it's our house. I think that is the core difference in mentality - in the US it's parents' house because they own it. Here it is a family (parents' and kids') house, even if only parents are legally the owners.
As someone whose first instinct is to look for the cheapest option when someone offers to pay for dinner, the wedding one BAFFLES me. $15,000.00?!?! That's insanity! And he was helping with the planning? The only words the niece and sister should have been saying were "Thank you!" I will also admit that weddings themselves baffle me and I don't quite comprehend spending the equivalent to a down-deposit on a house for a one-day event, so maybe I'm not the best person to speak on it 😂
#2 story: he always says "i needed her gone" but why didnt HE leave? SHE was postpartum, SHE cared for the baby, HE was an adult man able to care for himself and only himself ffs. He could have simply said "sorry i cant bee here rn, i need to calm down" and call a friend and crash there ffs (and maybe call a friend of hers too to check up on her while hes gone). But no, he kicked the mother of his children AND his children out fo their home after a traumatic event. THATS why he gets divorced, not bc of the rest imho
@Gabriel-yl7tu and how is that a better thing compared to kicking her out?? Kicking her out = wife+kid without home AND without caretaker Them staying and him going = wife+kid without caretaker If you mean his mom by "mom" then you missed the part where he threw out his mom first. Then he turned to his crying wife and said "you too", meaning he kicker her out of a secure home
She slapped a postpartum mother in the stomach (let’s pray she didn’t have a c section) and suggested she lose weight when she dropped a baby 2 months ago. The whole family would have to rip me off her mother in law or not.
If he dead ass thinks his mom wasn’t saying crazy ish to the wife behind his back. He slow. Moms that get weird at the weddings and pregnancies of their son (it’s always the son) is effing weird. Like that ain’t your man.
Fr, she's lucky a punch is ALL she got. You're eat my food AND disrespect me, put you hands on me in my own house? And then the husband obviously didnt stand up for her enough to let it get this far and then has the AUDACITY to tell her to leave? Yeah, time to exit that family. All of that on top of being fresh post partum.... a punch and a divorce is her being nice in my opinion 😂
high heel in her eye in my house.
Oh I didn’t fully understand the story but postpartum?! My god 😭
I think in an update he did admit that she had c section
kicking out your wife and 2 month old infant is actually so ridiculous. i’m glad she’s divorcing him
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That must’ve been the straw that broke the camel’s back. I wonder if it’s the husband prioritizing her mother more than the wife consistently (his mom becoming more clingy and seemingly jealous of his PREGNANT wife getting more attention)
Insane yeah- if he needed space he should have left after his mum etc did
@@FlutterBye-gk5ec Agree with you fully like if HE needed space - he shouldve left. not a mother and a fucking baby.
If feel like that story is fake
I am so angry at the sponsor transition because I was so invested in the socks story and I should've seen it coming 😭
me too I can always see the sponsors coming and this time I was caught by surprise even though it was so obvious😫
It's because it was so early in the video 😅
Same and I kept thinking what does it mean to be socked, idk must be some British slang idk about.
I saw this comment and still got caught off guard 😂
I literally read this comment before it came up and still got blindsided 😭
It's her house too, you can't kick her out. Fair that you need space but go to another room, go on a walk, go on a drive. Definitely a tip of the iceberg kind of moment for it to lead to divorce.
This is where I take issue with it too. I think it's fair he wanted to decompress immediately after, but he should've just gone for a drive or something and then come back to support his wife. If OP's telling the truth on MIL hitting the wife pretty hard, I consider the wife's actions self-defense - this is a woman who just gave birth, is nursing, is probably so fucking hungry and sleep deprived and feeling uncomfortable in her own home with a MIL who hates her ... I mean God, no wonder she snapped.
It's not okay, obviously, but her husband should have very clearly seen it coming and protected his wife from his mother beforehand. This was so avoidable, and he kicked his wife out WITH THE BABY after she was assaulted. Yeah, that would make me look at my husband differently too.
yes! i had the same exact thought. if you need the space, then YOU leave the house for awhile!! don't kick out your POSTPARTUM WIFE AND TWO MONTH OLD BABY! my goodness some people 🙄🙄
I literally gasped at "because I needed space" like??? HOW WAS KICKING YOUR WIFE OUT THE FIRST THING YOU CAME UP WITH TO ACHIEVE THAT???
I had the same thought, if you need space you take yourself off, not send them away lol
Yeah like honestly he could have left if it was that serious. Needing a little time after a family argument isn't wrong. Everybody needed to cool down I think. But to kick your wife out of your shared home??? THAT'S why you're definitively the asshole in this situation.
Slap to stomach is still more mild than punch to face. That being said, wife could have had a c-section, which would definitely escalate even a light stomach slap. But more importantly when yall are married why is it suddenly your house when you're upset, and why when your wife missed all of dinner (let's say like an hour) did you not offer to bring the plate straight to her or check in once. Also, mans clearly doesn't get that this was just a last straw, not her sole reason for divorce.
He left out that she had just had a C section to look better. He reluctantly admits in an update that the surgical site hadn't healed
c-section or not, a couple of months post-birth is not nearly enough time for her body to be healed enough for a slap to not really hurt
@raindawnson9254 fr, and she's not sleeping enough to be bouncing back fast by any means, then seeing her being deprived of food and the hubby doubling down on starving his NURSING wife, who needs more food than normal to produce said milk. I have a feeling she's not being properly nourished or allowed to rest very much, considering he put her food in the fridge while she took care of the baby?? Like without checking in on her or bringing her the plate, seems like she has to eat cold leftovers a lot after evryone else bc of the normalcy of that action.
She actually DID have a C section
The slap was so hard that the wife had a physical reaction to it before punching mother-in-law.
rents due isnt it
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Yea prob needed to release a sponsored video in October lol
Right bc like where have u been
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PSA: If a guy demands nudes, breakup! You do not owe those pics to ANYONE. Plus, men share them with other guys, post them online, keep them after the breakup, etc. Smarter NOT to give them, ever. Tbh.
That’s so true. A dude gave me his phone to find photos to post on his dating app account and I’m scrolling and find naked photos of his ex girlfriend from like three years ago. EW! That’s so invasive! You just forgot you had those in your phone when you handed it to me?! If you’re gonna send nudes, ladies, have your head cut out of the photo along with any identifying markings.
EVER
Facts!! A friends with benefits told me he shares nudes he gets with his best friends once he breaks up with the girl…. I was like “so you’ve shown mine” and he said no we still hook up now and then… but if you dipped out I would 😳😳😳😳
@stephanieramirez15DID YOU PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE?? THAT IS VILE
Honestly when they start demanding anything, no matter how small and seemingly insignificant, its a red flag. Your partner owes you nothing and if they dont meet your standards, you break up. You don’t demand anything. Nobody can demand anything from you
Love how he just ghosts us and comes back as if he never left😭
Hes like a toxic boyfriend :(
Bro is harden and hates himself. It all makes sense@@vroetie3242
And we eat it up everytime😔
Like a cat
No literally I've been binging his old videos bc there were no new vids😔
Organizing a large 15+ person trip all the time is exhausting and somewhat impractical. It's ok to organize a smaller outing sometimes.
It was also weird for that friend to be all passive aggressive. He could’ve just said : “I would’ve loved to have joined! Maybe we can plan another weekend away next time?” instead of being salty.
@@thirstaefortae5057 right😭😭 AND the guys go on outings alone too, so why is it a problem for the girls and their partners to go? i have a large friendgroup and not every hangout is going to include absolutely everyone in the group, that's normal and not "excluding" someone, especially if it's literally a girls trip
@@ukrivu yeah, it’s sometimes nice to hang out with just a few people and like OP said, it must be hard to plan for 15+ people all the time. Booking for accommodation, tables, travel must be a hassle. Like damn, as I’m typing this out I’m stressed thinking about it 😂
yeah i was disappointed that he didnt really take into account that the "boys" go on their own trips, have their own chat too, and we dont know if they always rely in the girls to plan stuff for the bigger group
But why invite the bfs tbh if its a girls trip? I understand their perspectuve from someone who was left out a lot.
Also, that last story is nuts. In what world do you spend someone else's money as your own? Especially something so frivolous as a 50k+ WEDDING. Absolutely tf not
My parents paid for my wedding. I triple checked anytime I did anything and I worked closely with them on all costs. I always offered the cheapest option and it was my mom who insisted on the higher priced items. I come from a very well off family and I was 21 at the time. I would never have dreamed of being so entitled.
Agreed. The entitlement was astonishing.
@@megan7792that's cuz you're awesome!
not only that but the niece is acting as if she doesn’t got a partner ??? if you and your partner want a big wedding maybe the weight shouldn’t be on one person only (but maybe that’s just me) … concerned that the mother is allowing such behavior
Taking food from a pregnant woman, then slapping her stomach while mocking her is equal to a punch in the eye, in my opinion. Neither was appropriate, but the MIL was being malicious while the wife was being reactionary. The wife felt bad afterward but the MIL said “see she crazy”. the fact that the husband saw his tired, hungry, crying by wife leaning on the counter after being verbally abused by his mom and said “actually I’m the victim here and you need to leave” is CRAZY
I have a feeling there is also a pattern of similar behavior when it comes to his mom that he is either oblivious to, or makes excuses for. This was clearly the wife's breaking point not a one off interaction
literally this!
I don’t know… one the one hand the mother’s behaviour was unacceptable and totally inappropriate BUT punching her??? That’s a total red flag. Especially because she probably knows about his history. She did not have to escalate the situation like that. I think if that kind of violent behaviour happens chances are it’ll happen again so yeah I think both the mother and the wife are at fault here. He obviously could have left instead of her but I get how in that moment his feelings and past trauma got the better of him…
But the mother in law seems to have some serious issues regarding the wife. She seems kinda horrible…
@@dinner_and_diatribes I get what you’re saying, but his feeling of trauma should’ve been triggered a long time ago when his mother first started mistreating his wife, then again when she took her food, verbally abused her, and slapped her stomach. The wife’s lunch was NOT the first instance of violence here, it was just a different kind of violence. I agree that punching the MIL was wrong, but I don’t think it was any more wrong than what the MIL did.
11:50 SIR. YOUR PREGNANT WIFE WAS SLAPPED BY *YOUR* MOTHER AND YOU THINK IT'S TIME FOR *YOU* TO HAVE "SPACE"??? immature
Likeee ??? 😂😂 he sounds 12
im so done 😭😭
what a horrible husband
and she had to leave with their NEWBORN BABY
Postpartum wife. She already had a baby, which is worse. You should never comment on a woman who just had a baby, YOUR GRANDCHILD
“i’m gonna find a way to turn a word derogatory” babygirl cow is already a derogatory term!!!!
Check the comments in his last ooga booga video, it was full of British people saying cow wasn’t derogatory when he said it was. That’s what he’s referring too
@@draculajinnie5306 as a British person, cow is derogatory 😭😭
@@IsabelleReads it’s derogatory, but is it fully offensive (yet)? cuz that’s dylan’s goal 😂
@@IsabelleReadsit is but he was really doubling down on how terrible the use of this word was where the guy had been like “she’s a bit of a cow” or whatever which I think a lot of us were like “yeah sometimes people say that who cares” 😂😂and if I remember correctly..she was indeed a right cow so….😂😂😂
@@JeM130177 he said selfish cow lmao
I’m too African for story 7 because charging your children rent for living with you is unheard of in my culture haha
Same!! I'm 26 and live with my family because it's just convenient for everyone and I contribute by buying groceries and stuff with my own money. Never heard of parents charging rent...
same too balkan for this story lol
I'm too latina for that story😂 my parents would have let me live with them forever if I wanted to. I lived with them until I was 25, obviously contributed but it was because I wanted to I was never charged for anything (other than buying my own stuff)
Inflation and expensive everything in America
@@celenawatkins8793 I feel like asking someone to step up financially, to help out with buying groceries or paying certain bills every month is one thing, but having a set price of rent? It feels more like a landlord situation than a family
The wild bit of the last one is we only booked such an expensive wedding because we thought you were paying! Usually when you known someone else is paying you would try and book things cheaply because it’s not your money. Even if they thought he was paying for it all they didn’t ask him what the budget was before putting down deposits? They clearly are too irresponsible to get married.
Yes
I'd be so f-ing grateful for 15g's... I have trouble imagining such generosity. W 15g's... I could plan an amazing wedding... start to finish. I think mine was 2g's total. So ya... she's the greedy A- hole... assuming he doesn't have Trump $$$, of course... & really wasn't making big claims before backing out) which I doubt. & she's ruined the good feeling you get by helping out someone you love. She's a selfish ruiner & I hope she wakes up bloated on her wedding day... and can't zip up her dress. At all. And cries until she ruins her makeup. Lol.
No underwear at a funeral? Whos going to even know that? Grow up.
And the MIL who caused drama throughout the pregnancy & called her DIL fat while SLAPPING HER belly was BEGGING to be punched in the face. Dude should have shut down his crazy mom long ago rather than letting her disrespect his wife in her own house... but instead he lets the tension build until his wife finally snaps... & then he proceeds to tell HER to leave her own house for finally defending herself because HE needs space? Eww. I'd give him ALL the space... sounds like him & his mommy are both lacking boundaries and maturity... and have zero class. Way to destroy your new family... as a family. Enjoy your space... and remember... when you feel sad & lonely... you asked for it. Demanded it, really. I could never be attracted to a 'man' like that. She made the right choice. 1,000%
If someone is offering to pay for your wedding, I don't think you even have to worry about going as cheap as you could, but simply including the person who is paying into the planning. Or ask what is the total sum they'd be willing to offer, and build from that. That way they can bring out their opinions, tell if something would be way out of the budget, communicate with the couple... Very easy and basic social skills that probably will include compromises, but would still create a very nice wedding. But nah... The ladies in the story decided that manipulation is the way to proceed here. :D
As another woman with biggies, I can attest that we do indeed plop them onto convenient surfaces without even noticing, coz breaking your spine to hold them biggies up all damn day is exhausting
I agree.
And sometimes they just naturally fall there. Wr can’t help that.
To me, it sounded like the guy friends understood that and why they didn’t comment on it. Hoping that is it and not them being secret sleazes who enjoyed seeing her big boobs all of the time.
The girl being insecure and jealous was the a-hole in this situation.
@@gabrielleduplessis7388 and you shouldn't have to "help it"! Boobs are not genitals, you can put them wherever you want, and if people sexualise that it's entirely on them, that person was an asshole! :)
@@gabrielleduplessis7388For sure, and also if you have big boobs, you know how annoying it is that people bring attention to them, so I appreciate the friends not making a big deal out of it.
Mine aren't even that heavy, they're just in the way ALL. THE. TIME.
@@luxuriouswishesno literally mine are medium ish but I always just kinda prop them up onto the most convenient counter 🤷♀️ also I have a longer torso so when I sit at a table they are usually just in the right place lol
15:20 her saying “she doesn’t belong in OUR life” is just the proof of unhealthy attachment of his mom to him, the whole time she felt like “he is hers only” and hated the wife for having a life with him separate from her
Yea he’s weirrrdddd
@@demigreen6495 Well, the mom is weird. The Mom/MIL is the one that told the husband his wife didn't belong in "our life".
Sounds like, despite the divorce, he still has a wife in his boy mom wife.😬
@@nadja1445he blocked his mother though so he doesn't have that either
@ a double break up.
Dylan has PTSD with food and pregnancy stories now 🤣
But hey, he listened an learned...
@@leza4453 true that lol
Two Hot Takes has taken the crown on pregnancy food story bad takes, so his scandals are buried now
@@Stinkeroniandcheeseoh? What ep/link?
@@meidoesthings I don't know which episode it was, but their most notorious one was when OP's wife had gestational diabetes and couldn't eat any of her pregnancy cravings, so she cried when OP kept eating her favorite foods in front of her. She was fine with him eating that food on his own time, but he made no effort in hiding it from her. THT took the side of OP being a victim of a controlling wife, when all she did was cry because she's pregnant and wanted a donut or a cheeseburger and her husband would wolf all those things down in front of her without considering how badly she was craving those exact items but couldn't because of the side effects of their collective pregnancy. It was rough and Morgan is still huffy about the comment section on that one.
Edit: the episode is called "Is it really a big deal?", and the Reddit post itself is called "AITA for secretly eating takeout food my pregnant wife cannot eat because she has gestational diabetes?"
One thing to note about the guy who told his wife to leave after she punched her MIL, is that after giving birth a woman is healing and slapping her stomach would be INCREDIBLY painful. MIL gave birth before and presumably knows this. She wasn't just making fun of her DIL, she was intentionally hurting her. If someone slapped my post partum belly on purpose I'd sock them in the face too.
Yeah I have heard that would be worse than the worst cramp you have ever experienced.
Apparently DIL has a c-section too but somehow he thought her punching MIL is worse? They would have to drag me away from her tf hell I don’t have a kids and I know how painful c-section is but the MIL didn’t and just slaps her stomach to prove to him that she “doesn’t belong” to their lives and to keep him to herself?
Thats the problem with all of these pregnancy stories. The guys always seem to underestimate what pregnancy and giving birth actually does to a woman. Like this guy, he doesnt think to fathom the hardships his wife went through during the pregnancy, bc its not a pain he will ever have to deal with. Guys (i guess i have to preface not ALL guys) tend to sympathize with pains that are susceptible to them, such as getting punched in the face, but tend to overlook pain they dont deal with. The MIL probably knew what types of pain DIL was going through and knew her son probably wouldnt fully understand so she got in her cheap shot under the guise of a tasteless joke, the DIL punching her just being the cherry on top. Its just disgusting how all of this went down and the dude is going to have to do a lot of graveling if he ever wants the change to save his marriage
If YOU needed space, you take a walk around the block. YOU leave for the day. You don’t kick out your wife AH!
The nudes one is a huge red flag. You haven't had sex yet and he wants nudes, and he doesn't care about your self confidence issues, that's awful
That story sounds fake
All r/AITA stories sound fake
@TokyoKitty01 I don't think so. It's a very, very common issue - especially with teenagers, I imagine, who are more naive and less confident.
not the transition into the Bombas socks ad lmaoo
My autisic ass after the ad was over set down for the next 2 mins like " and what happenned after she has socked him in the face?"
you warned me and i still fell for it
for the second story, if he needed space, he should have been the one to leave the house for some hours, IF ANYTHING cause truly he shouldnt have left
No he shouldn't have. He had every right to kick her out of the house. You don't EVER punch someone in the face like that unless you're getting physically attacked. The wife was clearly in the wrong
@@MMS954she was literally physically attacked tho???
@@german_hp-fan1104 no she wasn't. A little tap on the belly is not assault
@@MMS954 getting slap in the stomach is literally physical attack
@@MMS954it wasn’t „a little slap on the belly“ though?!! First of all it was a slap and second of all, she’s literally *visibly* pregnant and was protecting her baby and herself, that’s just good instinct
I felt the girl with biggies story in my soul. Sometimes they get in the way and we subconsciously shift them, homegirl probably didn’t even realize she was doing it 😭
The gf/fiance was being mean for no reason. She probably wanted to shame the girl in front of the boys.
That fiance was a paranoid monster. OP did nothing wrong and she just wanted to lash out at the only woman there. I do DND with friends and some of my friends have biggies and we don't give a crap! It's the dumbest thing to shame the poor OP for.
Same! I'm almost completely flat, but STILL I have to adjust where I place my chest since pressing that kind of tissue and glands against a table really hurts, just more or less depending on the time of month. This poor girl is walking around carrying all that weight AND gets bullied for doing just about the only thing she can do when reaching across a table?
Also with the story of the husband kicking out the wife with their newborn child because he needed to decompress.... he didn't kick her out of his house, they're married. It's also her home. So in this state where she's already tired and vulnerable, he kicked her out of the place she's supposed to find comfort and stability, and didn't provide support as the one person who should be the person supporting her:(
As someone who has a large mixed guy/girl friend group separate events are normal for us? In our group, not every event is always planned for everyone, especially for guys and girls. Also, OP stated that the guys go on their own trips so it's not really any different in my opinion. I know if a situation happened like this amongst my friends and one of the guys was hurt by it they would just say 'Hey, next time I'd be interested in doing this with y'all' and we'd say 'ok sounds fun'. Overall, I think the communication from both sides throughout this whole story is kinda dramatic, especially the 'thanks for the invite' part.
i think the poster didnt say the boys have seperate events too, but that the boys can have seperate events too.
They did imply that the boys had “boys trips” somewhere in the middle. Stood out to me too, because why take offence then?
I understand the girlfriends being mad though; if the male partners are included in the boys chat, I would expect to be included in the girls chat.
@@excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339 i think she just is not taking accountability of anything, just say yes we didnt want the guys their, and say sorry when your friend is expressing his feelings. not "if" ur upset.. dont give excuses, "like you plan too", she never mentioned he never tolds them about the boys only events
@@excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339@MariSakuu @aatikah9 2:47
There is a significant difference between not being invited to small events like a movie, dinner etc. that might be more spontaneous and a big fun travelling trip that probably took days or weeks to plan, with enough time to invite everyone and you actively choosing to not invite what you consider "good friends" in a group
Boys/ girls hangouts is not the same issue because it has a specific purpose. Like when all the hikers in a group plan a hiking trip among themselves or something similar. But when you're straight up planning a trip and inviting what sounds like 80% of people and leaving out 20%, and especially when it happens more than once with the same people getting left out, it's hurtful
If you're a good friend that's valued within the group you'll be invited, and not being invited sends exactly that message, you are not as valued within the group. Having to ask to be included in something a good friend (her words) would usually include you in has never been fun ever. No one wants to be just an afterthought to a good friend.
I feel like I got ghosted by a guy I liked, but I came back as soon as he texted me back weeks later
Well said.
that's exactly how this relationship with dylan works 😭😭
For the slap story, keep in mind that women are recovering from birth. Especially if she had a c-section. If that is the case, her stomach was literally cut open. So I’m not saying that violence should have been her response, I don’t want to minimize the assault to a little slap that couldn’t hurt her. And if she is currently pregnant, which I was confused if she was or wasn’t, that is truly like slapping a baby. Miscarriages can happen from hitting a stomach.
The husband conveniently left this out of the original story but admitted later through updates that she had indeed just been cut open.
@@coalvarner1813OH THATS JUST WILD
@@coalvarner1813 not really convenient. It was 2 months ago. If she’s having pain or the incision didn’t heal by 2 months post op, the mother did her a favour and she should get that check.
@kikialeaki1850 full recovery between 4 to 6 weeks, and that will still vary person to person. They cut her all the way open to pull something fairly large out and she doesn't get the rest needed to heal bc of the newborn. Even OP in his original post says he saw her wince in pain. Either she's in pain because the surgical site is still tender and it got SLAPPED (even by his own admission, so it was probably harder than he's letting on since he left out the surgery part too). Or she winced because her body is still in trauma from being cut open, and it hurt the normal amount that being "lightly" assaulted does while also scaring her. I'm glad you know her body well enough that you can exclude his own omission of seeing her in pain, what's your relation to her family?
@@coalvarner1813 obviously it varies. That’s why it should be checked to make sure it’s just healing related and not further injury or infection related. If recovery is between 4-6 weeks, that means MOST people recover during that time. So, again, outside of that time frame warrants a check up. I’m not claiming to know her body or claiming that she wasn’t in pain lol.
14:30 you know, USUALLY, people who need space take themselves out of the situation by getting a hotel, hiding in the bathroom or locking themselves in their bedroom and don't demand their wives and newborn baby to leave 🙄
Yes exactly. My dad was also abusive, so I can see the ptsd side of things. But it is 100% YOUR responsibility to remove yourself from a situation if it triggers you. You have to learn how to deal with triggers and emotions in a healthy way
that comment you made about the parent needing to learn how to communicate with their kid was so validating. im so sick of kids being expected to act like adults while adults can get away with acting like children (not that its applicable to that aita post abt the larper person, but in general). you're not perfect, dylan, but i appreciate the way you appraise situations to the best of your abilities and find nuances. you're not trying to be extreme, smth even I'm guilty of doing. this aita felt particularly entertaining, thx to the troublemakers who sent these in!!! ps. i have a lot of sympathy for the h cups girl 😭😭
definitely cultural (i'm from Europe) but the AITA with the mom basically being a landlord is so crazy to me ?? i'm in my twenties, i work pt/have a scholarship so i help out my parents for groceries and other stuff. but they don't ask me to pay for my room ⚰⚰ i can't even comprehend that tbh. living with our parents even until our early thirties is quite common
As an Indian, I agree.
i get that and i'm in a very similar circumstance to yours, BUT i think if my mom was refusing to treat me like an adult and telling me what to do i would simply get a full time job and find a way to move out with a friend or something. this lady's children clearly have no issue with reaping the benefits of being treated like kids and are enabling the weird family dynamics
Same, every parent treats the house as if it's the kid's house too. I never understood the "we made you and let you stay here for free, now it's time to pay the rent" lmao. I've read about people asking for money for all the years the kids didn't pay (since birth) and like ??? Here it's OUR house, not my parents house. Also people buying properties from their parents if they want to live there (if they have multiple houses or something), that would be unheard of here.
As an Indian . After a period of time the parents become our child so. It's a life long commitment
I'm from Europe too (Germany) and I have friends, who kept living at their parents house in their 20s and their parents expected them to pay rent too. A very low rent, but still. The parents reasoning was to have the kids learn this way to still care for themselves financially - at least a bit, because the rent was cheaper than if they had moved out. But they weren't fully supported by their parents.
Generally speaking in Germany it's very rare and often kind of looked down upon if people stay in their parents home for longer than ~18-20 years. Unless it's for the reason of caring for the parents or something like that. But if there is no such reason, it's usually being judged as being too dependent on the parents, too much of a mommies/daddies boy/girl etc..
But I guess this German culture is influenced by the fact that it's easier to move out than many other countries. University is basically free, there is a good social security system etc. So financial reasons are usually not a big factor.
First story: just say "Sorry, I didn't think through the ramifications of my actions or consider your feelings. I will try to be more considerate in the future." The end. Friendship restored.
Why should they have to invite them if they didn't wanna ??
@@zaandash125 I just had this conversation with a friend recently. She had a party, but asked everyone invited to keep it a secret so the people she didn't invite don't find out about it. I was like what, why would anyone care, you should invite people you want to invite, I would feel embarrassed to comment on it or be openly angry if someone didn't invite me.. Well, people found out and were calling her out, angry, same as this guy.
I really don't get it, I don't feel entitled to anyone's invite and I don't think it's a reason to get angry and get into a fight like this.
I think it’s more like Dylan was saying, she didn’t apologize for not including them and making them feel left out but said “sorry if you’re upset about it”. I’ve been in this situation before and it sucks bc it’s not usually about the trip or anything like that it’s more about the fact they think you’re wrong for feeling upset you were intentionally left out of something with friends you trusted and make plans around/with all the time. Kind of a narcissistic response on her end.
Reciprocity is the key to quality relayionships. You invite or accept invitations know you expect the same. It sucks doing your part only to get snubbed amd jilted. a@@bugdrawsportraits
@@bugdrawsportraits i think it's only a problem IF you keep it secret like that. it makes it so much more dramatic when you could have just said 'we're going on a girl's trip next week' or whatever and been done with it, but keeping it secret makes it sound like you're specifically avoiding people.
HE'S ALIVE OMG
I was starting to worry as well. But let's go, it is a Reddit episode!
STOP I can’t believe they’re complaining about “only” 15k😭 that was literally the cost of my out of country wedding including flights, dress and rings 😭😭😭
3:12 did he even read what she said? She said the other guys frequently do their own thing. So they can have boys trips and exclude the women but when the girls do it they’re hurt?
But notice what she didn't say? She didn't say they keep it a secret or don't invite everyone
@@bunji_beansnot necessarily thought? She said they have a boys group chat and the only reason she knows is because of her boyfriend. The boys didn’t tell the girls about that it sounds like, so secrets on both sides
@@Imjustkendall it does not matter. she and 7 other people planned a secret trip, went out of their way not to let the OG dudes know abt a huge vacation, and then she got so dramatic "oh, I see Tim in a whole new light". Like girl, wtf did you expect?
that's the thing though, the women are excluded on an 'all guys trip', but for the girls trip, all of them except one invited their partners, therefore making it NOT an 'all girls trip'. On top of that, I would feel kinda bad for the one girl who didn't have a partner, would feel super third wheeling all the time.
my fav 20y/o to watch on this platform
HE’S 20?????
@@princexelielyup!
No, it's a joke he makes.
@Mavenstree what you mean it is not joke he is obviously wearing nose ring so his dev 20/yo
HAHAHAHAAH
Accidentally here immediately????
Same?? Like- its witchcraft
Get a life
Whaaat! Same here!
I dropped what I was doing immediately when I saw the notification
Sameeee
That bombas sock ad really had me for a second... well done Dylan 👏
He always gets me lol
The one with the niece’s wedding pissed me off so much. I used to be very generous with friends - and then they literally cut me off 1 time i said i couldnt do them a favor. The favor? Letting them rent my parents apartment for a way discounted rate. It wasnt even my decision, it was my parents. But thats what happens when they begin to expect you to do things for them and were never grateful for the times you did help them
As someone who also has size H+ boobs in the process of getting a reduction, I totally get it! I find myself subconsciously putting them on the table all the time to take some of the weight off my back 😂. People don’t understand how terrible of an experience it is to have boobs this big… Definitely not the asshole for this!!
Absolutely! I “only” have to deal with E cups and yet I sometimes do that, because it’s nice to give your back a break once in a while. With anything F and up? You can’t really NOT put them anywhere, because they’re just… there… all the time.
Hope everything goes well with your reduction 🧡
I don't have this particular issue myself but I have a 1 year old who wants to be carried pretty much everywhere and you'd better believe I put her down or rest my arm on something whenever possible. I imagine having a similar weight protruding from your body at all times is relentless...
m cup and reduction is in the very far future if at all 🫠 i feel you lol
It’s almost Halloween and Dylan is out here celebrating by coming back from the dead
everybody scream it’s almost halloween
I absolutely love Dylan's editor. Really makes the video 100% funnier
3:40 So correct me if I'm wrong but the poster's boyfriend is in the Boy's chat but none of the core boys female partners are in the Girl's chat??? Cause it's implied before that they didn't know the trip was happening right??
If I had to guess, there's probably 6 variations of group chats with different people included and excluded lol
Boyfriend was probably already in the og friend group, and the girlfriends are just friends' girlfriends.
Oh I did even clock that. That does make this seem a bit more weird
i assumed the "girls chat" was just the core/original girls of the group ?
I didn’t even peep thaaaat
12:10 you don’t kick your wife out. Sleep on the couch and discuss it in the morning if you need space. That’s insane. And I would talk to the mother for sure and create rigid boundaries.
He did go no contact w the mom but yeah kicking out your 2 month postpartum wife and your newborn is crazy. I also think that the punch to the face was just reactionary. Not saying it was right, but it’s implied that before the pregnancy was over, mil was making mean comments and this one tipped wife over the edge. He also only went no contact after the whole issue. He should have set boundaries before the pregnancy was over when the comments started. Maybe he did, but mil didn’t learn her lesson.
48:50 wait wait wait. You thought that someone else was paying for it so you made the wedding extravagant and expensive? Is it just me or would I not wanna burden the helper to much and thus make it cheaper on purpose
yes. i would be so grateful for 15K like wtf.
If I was the niece of the uncle offering to help with 15000 I’d be the most grateful lol
Right? 15k is a fuckload of money and I’d be crawling on my knees thanking them profusely. My ENTIRE wedding costs less than 15k. The fact that they dare to complain at all is ludicrous.
Same.
Im from the UK and 15k would be enough for me and my siblings all together and theres 3 of us 😂😂@excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339
story 1: NTA, you don’t owe each of your friends an invite to every hangout. An airbnb for 15+ people is different than an airbnb with 5 rooms that happen to have double beds. Plus if it’s just girls and partners, it’s just girls and partners. That’s not the same as a complete friend group hang out, it’s a different vibe.
And they hang out all together all the time. This is one event where only some of the group is invited. They’ll live.
Plus like she said, the guys go off and do stuff together too. They can’t act like they’re owed an invite to every hangout when they don’t extend one every time either. People act so entitled to other people’s time it’s crazy. If you have a friendgroup of 15 people, you can’t honestly expect all 15 to be invited to everything.
story 2: YTA. wife is 100% in the right, husband shouldn’t have kicked her out for defending herself. If he needed time to process, he shouldve taken space for himself, not demanded that his wife leave their home when they have a newborn.
story 3: NTA obviously
story 4: yea YTA, if no undies is fine for every other day, then it’s definitely fine when he’s grieving. The dead body in the casket doesn’t GAF if he’s wearing underwear. Yea sure it’s a lil weird, but she picked the WORST moment to put her foot down. She shouldve been there to support her husband and made her stand about undies another day if it bothered her sm.
story 5: NTA she needs to dump this trash man. You’re never in the wrong for having boundaries about your own actions and what you feel comfortable doing for your partner. He’s trying to coerce her into sending noods through manipulation. Just awful.
story 6: obvi tell your roomates if you’re installing camera’s where they live tf?
story 7: yea mom’s not doing a great job.
story 8: they need to have a lengthy convo.
story 9: the niece is being crazy entitled. OP has already been so generous, and here they are demanding more??? absolutely preposterous. NTA.
I think person 1 isn’t an asshole for planning the vacation, but is an asshole for how she treated her friends afterwards. They’re allowed to feel hurt and excluded when they were, in fact, excluded. This woman came to Reddit seeking validation for being selfish/refusing to have empathy for ppl who have allegedly been her friends for a long time. “I see Tim in a new light” girl get over yourself. Adult egoism at its finest
A+ takes, 100% agree
For story 1, her actions afterwards were asshole-ish, "I see Tim in a different light now"
She could have simply stated she wanted to have a trip with her partner but want some of her gf's to come too, and they could bring their partners to feel comfortable. But no, she's saying this is a girl's trip. This 'girls' trip includes the partners of the original girl side of the group (rip the singles actually there for a girls trip) and excuses not informing the others about it as it was said in the girls group chat whilst the guys have her partner in their group chat, not vice versa. It's not about too many people, girls or boys, original or extended, it's about the common decency to let them know. She allowed her gf's to bring partners she wasn't as close to but couldn't invite her actual close bf's partners to a 'girls trip'. This whole thing would be cleared up so easy if she just said "my bad, sorry I hurt your feelings" instead of excusing everything.
For story 2, I mostly agree with you but that was not self defense, a belly slap met with a full punch isn’t self defense, even the wife knew that, hence she felt bad. And if he isn’t lying about his history of domestic violence, I get him needing space and kicking her out cause he needed space, with his mom's face bleeding, that wasn't his wife in that moment that was his abuser. Anywho even he knew he was wrong and pregnancy is a sensitive time. Periods make me cranky, I can't imagine being 2 months out of the hospital, sleep deprived cause of said baby and deprived my fucking food. I'm ashamed to say I'd lash out in some way too. Though I hope they do therapy if he wasn’t lying, divorce seems intense so early in, especially since both were in sensitive times and he did cut off his mom
i disagree abt story 1... she mislead 4 people and then got upset when they called her bluff. Sure, she can have an girls night or even an all girls night + partners... but she needs to at least be honest with the other dudes and not pretend like nothing's changed.
The last story is crazy XD like who hears “help” and things “I’ll pay for everything “? Not the same thing
i’m 20 and my mom doesn’t pressure me to move out at all… and i think charging your kids 100$ a week is kinda insane for rent … like my sister is currently staying with us (and her kids) and she pays on bills and gets household stuff.. but doesn’t have to pay rent … its just kinda insane to me how some ppl treat their kids like tenants instead of yk.. their literal offspring
similar age/situation and ikr, right? maybe it's just because the housing situation where i live is completely bonkers, but I'm pretty sure (especially given the mother's behaviour...) that if the kid in the story could move out, they would. the housing/job market is shit rn, why should it be unusual to support your family?
Ok? What about a 25 year old working full time not contributing at all and spending all their money on name brand stuff and looking wealthy or a video game addiction or something?
How about 30?
35?
You’re a grown up. Good for you your parent can afford to fully care for you but that’s not the case for everyone
@@bogwife7942not everyone can afford to support their adult children fully?
She’s charging less than rent ALONE would be let alone all the bills and food etc etc
@@beanybabyrabie you are making up hypotheticals beyond the scope of what is being discussed. the premise here was "why would you charge rent to a family member who contributes to the household?" you're talking about something completely unrelated. communal living at any age is nothing new, and as long as everyone involved is happy with the arrangement, why should it matter if someone lives with their parents in their 30s?
That husband just 100% leaving out something BIG that will make him look like trash by just the way the wife just decided to divorce him. She was DONE!
The kung fu panda sound effect was spot on, it’s not funny, but it’s so funny 😭😭
Seriously though, mil drama scares me
Oh the thing about the MIL slapping the guy’s wife in the stomach is she just had a baby too 😭 her FIRST one too, she was probably still coming to terms with her body changing because of it, and hearing that must have made her emotional, especially after it seems like the MIL had been rude to her before that for a while already. I’m not saying punching was a good thing to do, just that I understand she was probably really emotional and it escalated.
it's worse when you know the mom has a mama's boy complex and is extremely insecure of the wife. It felt intentional af. and to be kicked out of ur own house bc ur husband needs the whole ass house to fucking "think"
It is even worse, apparently, she was still recovering from C-section as well.
@@youleczka what?! that makes it SOOOO much worse, and makes me completely side with the wife.
@@EpicNoobSofiya kicked out his own new born as well. I'm so glad she's divorcing him too bc he left out of the main post that she'd just been cut open with a C section, just to make himself look better because Holly ish, that's assault!!!
Dylan having PTSD over his past aita judgments 😂
(first story) I'm so confused.. they wanted a girls trip but there was enough space IN THE GIRLS BEDROOMS for their partners, so they came as well. How difficult is that to understand? Tim and the other guys COULD NOT COME unless they were sleeping in the girls rooms lol because there was not enough bedrooms for all of them. getting a bigger Airbnb would cost MUCH more (if they were even able to find one with 9 bedrooms!) and probably be located somewhere else, changing the entire trip. Tim needs to be asked if he and others WERE invited, where would they sleep? shes not the AH in that situation at all (unless you count her fake apology?) but even then because there just isn't anything to apologize for.. its just so straight forward lmao.
My only issue is that she/they should have let them know about the trip before hand, specifically because of how much of the friend group was involved, and the fact that it wasn’t really a girls trip (the female partners of the guys weren’t invited but their male partners were).
Having the trip is fine, but it sucks to find out a good portion of your friend group is on a trip from social media, rather than from them. Makes you feel left out
@@Iffythegreat this is true and a good point
the issue is that she invited over half of the friend group, some of which I imagine were not even OG, and then those 8 people kept it a secret from some of the OG dudes... like wtf???? Sure, it is not technically wrong, but it feels really scummy for the people who were not told. And then she was like "oh, I see Tim in a whole new light" after 1 minor incident. She is so dramatic.
But also Tim could've handled it better instead of a passive aggressive comment.
The last reddit of the uncle and his neice's wedding, he said he was "happy to help" with the wedding. He didnt agree to pay for the whole thing!
LOOK WHO'S HERE
Everytime a dude says he "needs time to process what happens" it's code words for "let me go to Reddit to figure out what to do next"
The first one is crazy because the op isn’t obligated to invite a friend group of 15 ppl. 15 isn’t a small number. IMO it rlly isn’t a big deal. Op doesn’t have to always invite EVERYONE of the huge friend group. But I do get the feeling of being left out of your own friend group. THAT BEING SAID, they are grown people in their 20s. Get new friends. Have a fun life instead of being passive aggressive with your existing friends and make the entire friendship salty. The guy should have initiated another hang out instead of ruining the “girls” trip.
IMO their feelings are valid especially when the core four guys weren’t invited. If it was just girls I would agree even the guys’ partners weren’t invited so i can’t imagine how those girls felt either. Also your comment about them being grown people in their 20s doesn’t make sense your feelings don’t shut off when you’re 20
@@draculajinnie5306 see that’s the thing. No one’s right here. Plans change often, especially last minute. And this isn’t about feelings but rather maturity. The friend could’ve handled it better with op instead of replying with a salty dm
@@draculajinnie5306feelings can be valid, but it doesn’t mean that they’re the AH for doing it. And when you’re an adult, your feelings are your responsibility & not always someone else’s, and there are some times where your feelings aren’t proportional to the issue and I think this is one of them. OP said the guys plan trips & go out on their own, yet when the girls do it it’s an issue? It sounds like “I wanna be able to do it, but don’t like when you do” which isn’t fair.
Eta:
And if they invited the guys’ partners, then they would HAVE to invite the guys (cause they invited their own partners, so it’s not like they can say “well, no guys are going) and at that point, might as well. The main reasons seem that they invited their own partners because it doesn’t need to add any more beds / accommodation. But if you invite 2-3 more women, then that’s 2-3 more rooms bigger AirBNB you need to find. And at that point, then you have to invite the single friends (seems to be 1-2 single guys) or else you’re excluding them for not having a partner. Now you’re going from 5 rooms to 8-9, which is a lot more expensive and very hard to find an airbnb for.
If they opened it up, then they’d have to invite everyone so I think how they split it up makes sense
i just don’t understand why they didn’t notify other guys they were going on a trip, if they all like each other? “hey, us girls booked bnb and are gonna take partners due to free space, wanna look for other bnb nearby?” like they’d probably say no bc it’s an annoyance to plan, but why not invite them in general?
He didnt “ruin” the girls trip. He found out that half the friend group and their SO’s were on a trip through social media and commented in it. The mood “soured” because of OP
All any of them had to do was simply text a message in the shared group chat saying the girls were going on a trip. If he got pissy after that then thats on him
How did he not point out that the guy insisting on nudes is literally abusing his gf.... that's straight-up manipulation, and she should dump him immediately
dylan loves being a centrist on this page unless its extremely ludicrous.
It's pretty obvious the dude was wrong there lol.
First story: people in your friend group are allowed to plan things without everyone involved, they're adults ffs
Especially if the people they invited were their partners 💀 couple get-away whatever. Getting mad cause you weren’t invited seems very childish.
@@marissajb9855 Planning a trip with certain friends is fine, but the way she tried to frame it was a straight up lie. It was not a "girl's trip" like she was claiming. It was basically a trip with the friends she liked the most
@@tmm4195it was initially meant as a girls trip, so no she didn’t lie. And they had enough space to invite their partners, so then it went from a girls trip to a couples trip. It’s that simple.
@@tmm4195 I think you’re adding context where there isn’t. It was a girls trip with *their husbands* - I go back to my previous point of, people are allowed to plan things without you
@@tinanana- My point is that she then should’ve stopped claiming it as a girls trip when realistically it wasn’t. Like I said what she did wasn’t wrong to plan the trip, but how she handled it after was wrong
ok for the first story tho we're totally glossing over that the guys apparently also hang out on their own without including the girls...i feel like tim getting that upset over not getting an invite to the girl's trip when they have boys trips all the time is a lil fucked up
I feel like Tim would've been fine if it was just a girls trip but when they ended up inviting the partners too then it's stops being a girls trip. The friend group is around 15 people and 9 went on the trip so 2/3 of the friend group hung out without them. I do feel like Tim did make it a bigger deal than it needed to be and he should have talked to them properly rather than being passive aggressive
yeah plus if it was really a girls trip they could have invited their friends(the core guys) partners instead of their own male partners
I feel like if any of the girls quickly just said “hey we’re going on a girls trip and will probably bring our boyfriends to make it a big core girlie date night from this day till this day” cause I guess from Tim’s point it seems like the girls were purposely trying to be secretive and do something behind their friends’ back (gender split aside) since none of the other main 4 guys knew as the 5 girls didn’t say anything, the 5 girls didn’t post about it at all until OP did, and it seems to be like none of the 5 girls’ partners said anything either to the core 4 guys even though the 4 core guys + 5 girls’ boyfriends have a boys group chat so it looks like 10 people purposely did *not* want to tell the main 4 dudes and went out of their way to make sure the core 4 guys don’t find out vs just quickly saying “hey us girls we’re just gonna do this small thing for us and our partners” so that way the 4 core guys know why they weren’t invited and why it’s nothing personal.
But from what’s presented Tim does seem to be a bit sensitive about it even after the situation is explained~ which granted OP could have explain a bit better.
I think tim is being so extra, i have a friend group with a simmilar dynamic and it has never been an issue if us "core girls" did our own thing without the guys and vice versa
How do people have so many friends wtf
Yeah, the whole underwear situation never should have been a thing. You’ve been together that whole time and you choose the day of the guy’s funeral to challenge him when he’s grieving? Like you said, he’s clean in general. No one is going to pants him or something. Let it go for now
Yeah, like, if it was a turn off for you from the beginning, why stay? And if you stayed, it means it wasn't that big of a deal. And if it isn't that big of a deal, then why, of all days, you decided to bring it up and give him an ultimatum the day of his grandfather's funeral? It just seems so calculated and heartless to be that specific day.
that story felt so crazy it had to feel fake.
The larping one deteriorated so fast. I was not ready for the house arrest.
The mother in law 100% brought the punch on herself and he brought the divorce on himself by kicking his wife and infant child out. HE needed space?? His wife was just assaulted, what about her needs???
Assaulted? Cmon now…..
The preg wife thing. I'm an only child to my mom and I very distinctly remember giving a tiny slap (cause I was like 3 or 4) and thought its haha funny as a toddler. But I remember her wincing in pain cause she had surgery (a c section) and also removal of the womb due to issues. so pretty bad and I can imagine it. (yup my mom reacted with a yell but didnt raise a hand on me). I immediately (as 3/4 yr old) understood she wasnt feeling it as a joke and then I softly petted her belly.. So, I imagine something similar happened and all the pent up insults + physical pain attested to her falcon punching her mother-in-law. But the husband is icing on cake to say get the feck out at that time with a 2 month new born.... anyone would divorce and heartbroken.
It’s odd he never mentioned a c section which suggests to me his mom was really wrong and he’s trying to save face OR she didn’t have a C section, dislikes the mom and saw her opportunity to be an aggressor
100% divorce worthy tho
@@beanybabyrabie regardless you cant just have a new born and just delivered mom to leave the house at night... I'd be heartbroken in various ways
Post partum depression/issues is such a real thing and that husband should have left the house not kick his wife and baby out.
19:56 this is why I love Joe as Dylan's editor 😂 He brings such unexpected but funny jokes to every video!
40:41 as a gay man myself, our dating culture is super different from straight dating culture. Here’s the thing: in a friend group of 5-7 gay men, two (or more) have hooked up with each other, more than half of them met through a dating app, and _you_ have been physically and/or romantically entangled with _at least_ one of your friend’s extended friends. It’s very normal to meet with non-platonic intentions and become entirely platonic later on. My most recent ex is still one of my best friends 🤷🏼♂️
Absolutely correct about the other people paying for you. If you offer to pay for anything, like lunch, Im getting water and the cheapest thing. I had a friend that would order cocktails, apps, and like desert, on top of another drink. Im happy to pay but also, ordering and expecting so much feels like taking advantage
Man I could never, I would feel so horrible getting even a little bit expensive things if someone else is paying.
@@astrowolvez Oh I know. If someone is paying, I get a small with nothing on it, unless they insist and then you do not want to be rude. BUT ONLY if they insist. Like, racking up someone's tab because they are being nice is an impolite thing to do
I love love love your takes because youre always a peace maker at heart and are understanding even when ppl make mistakes, which is the opposite of what I see constantly of ppl immediately escalating situations and becoming combative
OH MY GOD FINALLY HE'S BACK
I missed Dylan's videos so much, literally been thinking about him daily hoping this is the day he publishes a new video
me too, we're addicted 😣
but I am specially to his movie commentaries
@@maximiliancordedda Of course I do, but those things don't make me happy. Also, I'm from Ukraine and I read bad news and experience bad stuff every day, Dylan's videos are one of the few things that can distract me. Do you have a problem with me finding happiness in his videos?
You just ignore the critics and keep loving what you love!!
An almost hour long video?? Let’s go!!
that ad segue was a top tier misdirect and it's not even monday?!
36:50 ill never understand parents charging their children rent like what? and "owing us" bcz they werent working at that time? thats insane
edit: im definitely not talking about struggling families who need their children to help out with rent and other stuff, that case is totally different, however this aita post, it looks like the family's well off so..
Must be an American thing I guess? As an Indian, I could never imagine this scenario 😅
As an Ethiopian this was probably the most insane AITA i’ve seen on here 😭 Charging your children no matter their age is absolutely unheard of in our culture. If anything children (especially women) typically live with their parents well into their 20s to save money or until they have a reason to move out (like marriage) RENT FREE 💀
I disagree, I think it installs responsibility and a habit to manage and prioritize your expenses. Clearly her younger two children can manage to keep their end of the bargain. They’re all adults with jobs, not children who can’t survive on their own. And they aren’t even being charged a crazy amount, rent now averages 1,500 depending on where you live. The parents aren’t charging them out of spite. In my opinion OPs eldest child needs to either get a new FT job or simply cut down of some of their hobbies until they can get their money problems in order.
Edit: I will say OP restricting their car use as if they were a child was not a great choice.
I pay rent to my parents but that was my idea. I insisted on it and I wanna help around the house anytime they need me. It's my way of showing how much I appreciate them but also giving me some independence. I lived in an apartment for 5 years but had some health issues and moved back. I like being able to pay the rent and living my own life but also spending time with my parents.
What I read just now for AITA is a parent who is DEMENTED.
@@kindakomplicated4537 exactly mine too, like unless its for college or marriage its totally fine and lowkey expected of u to still be living with ur parents
To the last story. If someone offers to cover part of your wedding, you don't go up in the price. You instead try to be sensible
Such a great feeling when you start watching dylan's AITA video playlist and a new video appears just when you are finished with the playlist.
Can’t lie Dylans sponsorship ads are the best i don’t ever fast foward 😂
whenever I watch old AITA posts of dylan, the same day he posts another one.
i will start re-watching everyday now.
Dylan- "I always wear underwear!"
Dylan from a video several years ago- "why does my underwear feel so weird? Oh, cause I'm not wearing any!!"
At this point I’m learning new words through Dylan. It’s just a real hit or miss because I either will learn something new or I’m going to embarrass myself using a word that doesn’t exist because of him 😂
Dylan just so you know... we'll never forget the face plan on the inflatable castle on Scott's video. NEVER. its going to haunt you forever
Elaborate???
@@sneharozario9485 Dylan went on the Cramer Games on Scott Cramers yt channel lol
That was hilarious 😂
excuse me. Platonic good morning texts definitely are a thing because I've been sending one to both of my best friends for years and I've just added another friend to them
Not a fan of good morning texts, but I don't think there's anything romantic/sexual about it. But here, the male friend did confess his feelings to the gf just some months back.
In the context of the post, I think it is a little sus because the person admitted feelings. It's not platonic for the other guy, there is a motive. Otherwise, yes, I completely agree.
6:13 is she the only one getting heat for it ??? 😭😭😭😭
seems like it. i think it was mentioned that the other girls saw Tim's point and were able to empasise with him, so maybe that's why
Dylan is getting better and better at tricking me with his ad reads
it's kind of ironc with the parent with the adult children living with them, that instead of trying to make them more independent they punish them by making them even less independent.
The first story is complete ridiculous. Typical behavior of immature people, which I guess is expected considering the age of OP (I'm assuming they're all around the same). The fact that you are in a big friend group doesn't mean you're obligated to every single thing with all of the people in that group, geez.
Thats not why Tim was mad, Keila. Imagine how you might feel if 8 of your friends planned a vacation behind your back, all 8 never mentioned it to anyone else in the friend group, and then got all dramatic when you confront them ("I see Tim in a whole new light") like wtf.
“When I’m stereotyping in my mind” is crazy
Bruh the first one should not be labeled as an asshole, if the core girls want to go on a trip with their boyfriends they should have every right to do that 🤷♀️ Why should they be obligated to invite their guy friends that’s just weird
you are sugar coating what happened... wtf.
Dylan is so funny already, but the editing?!? Hilarious 😂 give them a raise
I’ve been bamboozled. I feel betrayed. I was invested in that socked brother story.
I'm from Europe and was shocked about the parents that charge rent for their children!!!! Literally never heard of something like this before. Crazyyy
4:05 her boyfriend beeing in the boyschat but their girlfriends and wife not beeing in the girls chat...
Real
It’s been way too long since I’ve had a new Dylan video on my screen I fear WELCOME HOME 😭
The uncle already has helped his sister and niece sooo much even before offering $15K. The audacity
AGREED.
yeah they were trippin'. I felt bad for the OP, because he still loves them despite their entitlement and greed.
I wake up at midnight, again, sick as I've been for 26 days, sleeping like sheez and having a mental crisis about it almost every day alone in a foreign country...
and I JUST saw your upload; 53 minutes (bless you!) and you genuinely brought the first smile to my face in WEEKS.
Thank you!!! Now I will watch your video because if I will continue to sleep like sheez at least it will be because of you and your great spirit ❤
Thank you, Dylan!!! Writing this with tears in my eyes!! ❤❤❤
The one with the parent made me like UNREASONABBLY mad. maybe its bc i dont have that type of relationship with my parents where they're like calculating everything like that on a strict budget plan but it just came off as strange. dont get me wrong i understand paying the rent and gas and stuff but it becoming so strict that they aren't allowed to go this event because the "owe you" money? it really rubs me the wrong way like theyre ur kids, if you have a problem with the living arrangements maybe stop charging them and let them save enough to move out. (that part about the banning them from seeing their friends makes me really upset like dawg if theyre paying rent idk if u should be able to ground and them shit )😭
Especially in this economy too, everything is expensive and finding jobs has been worse than ever! I spent a whole 2 years looking off a decent job and couldn't even find a full-time. Not to mention some jobs you HAVE to start at part-time to be promoted to full-time! That whole situation screams controlling parents.
the mom and adult children .. like wtf? you make your own children pay rent?
thank god I was born in Latin America where we live with our parents for as long as we need, because they actually want us to stay... Here family actually means something and I paid bills because I wanted to help my family, not because I needed to pay rent.
btw, I left my house already, but because I wanted to, not because I was obliged. Still I'll always call it 'my house', because that's what it is, my home.
Right? I'm from Europe (no need to specify the country) and it's so odd to me because my dad asked me to move BACK with them (and take my husband with me) because he want to have his family close
@@that_gurl4u yess, I totally relate to this. This american culture is very sad
Its pretty normal here, bills cost money. Not having any sort of responsibility can lead to laziness and unemployment. Most parents are just afraid their kids will get complacent and unproductive. Ive had a job since 11 and had to pay bills.
That seems unethical and illegal in a lot of places @@puppet_society
@@puppet_society bills cost money everywhere in the world. It's not like I'm not paying my bills or for my food because I do, but I don't have to pay rent. And living together is cheaper overall, because you can buy food in bulk and pay less when you split it into two households. My parents had to pay for heating the whole house anyway but now they are paying only half of the heating costs and we pay the other half. The internet bill is the same no matter if 2 or 4 people are using it, so again - it's literally half of the price when split between two couples, than when my parents had to pay it only by themselves. Any fixing/renovation/etc - again my parents would have to pay the whole cost if they were living by themselves but with us they are paying only half. All of this is not "paying rent" but simply splitting a bill because it's not only theirs house, we live here too so it's our house. I think that is the core difference in mentality - in the US it's parents' house because they own it. Here it is a family (parents' and kids') house, even if only parents are legally the owners.
As someone whose first instinct is to look for the cheapest option when someone offers to pay for dinner, the wedding one BAFFLES me. $15,000.00?!?! That's insanity! And he was helping with the planning? The only words the niece and sister should have been saying were "Thank you!"
I will also admit that weddings themselves baffle me and I don't quite comprehend spending the equivalent to a down-deposit on a house for a one-day event, so maybe I'm not the best person to speak on it 😂
I also enjoy when these kinds of videos are longer, so thank you, Dylan, for making them longer
#2 story: he always says "i needed her gone" but why didnt HE leave? SHE was postpartum, SHE cared for the baby, HE was an adult man able to care for himself and only himself ffs. He could have simply said "sorry i cant bee here rn, i need to calm down" and call a friend and crash there ffs (and maybe call a friend of hers too to check up on her while hes gone). But no, he kicked the mother of his children AND his children out fo their home after a traumatic event. THATS why he gets divorced, not bc of the rest imho
Because if he left it would be the wife and the mother alone together, tbh he should have left with the wife
@Gabriel-yl7tu and how is that a better thing compared to kicking her out??
Kicking her out = wife+kid without home AND without caretaker
Them staying and him going = wife+kid without caretaker
If you mean his mom by "mom" then you missed the part where he threw out his mom first. Then he turned to his crying wife and said "you too", meaning he kicker her out of a secure home