This movie reminds me of an "Am I the asshole?" post where this guy who has schizophrenia and his gf got into it because she hid his medication, and she waited until he had a full on panic induced tearful breakdown to say that she hid them as a prank. She then had the audacity to play victim when he yelled at her for doing it, I think it took him like an hr of searching before it got to that point. She kept telling him that she didn't know he couldn't handle a joke. The kicker is, it was the bf who made the "Am I the asshole?" post.
As a person with schizophrenia, that is a dark thing for her to do. Never ever mess with any kind of meds. That’s not something you can use for a prank.
@@ANite-vx1vk pranks was never be good. Btw who invented this ? Jokes already good enough for human emotions and interactions, pranks more like - "oops sorry i kill your dog, its just a prank bro!"
I thought the little girl took the cake for the acting. The crying in the beginning of the film and the sheer horrific crying during the "Last Supper". She showed true emotion.
@@Voeris1 u mean happiness, thats the first time in the movie where the tide turns in grace’s favor and the kids/villians got what they deserved. A forever lasting memory of their dad spilling brain juice over a dinner table with them as they sing a song together. The best punishment for those bitches ever. I hope she didnt kill them so they relive that everyday for at least the next 35 years of their lives.
seriously... what the fuck were they thinking? I guess they inherited their dad's idiot genes for ignoring red flags and playing with fire, so I guess this movie was about... natural selection? Sometimes when people make bad decisions in horrors I try to overlook it, but when the whole film centers around bad decisions it gets kind of hard to ignore... Edit: on second thought, it was less stupid and more just straight up cruel. If you wanna blame someone blame your dad. Grace didn’t choose to be born into a cult, why take it out on her? And they even killed the DOG. FUCK THEM KIDS!!!
i think also with the applying makeup excessively at the beginning wasnt just her hoping at reconciliation but perhaps for her to put on a front to show that she is doing well and moving on like he is despite her obvious issues after the separation.
This was honestly one of the psychological movies that had me really emotional. Especially when Grace was clutching her dog. She mentioned that the dog was one of the few things she got after surviving from the cult and now it's dead. This movie was so bleak, caused by actual human beings and that makes it even scary.
Even worse, caused by children because they were children. They were angry, spiteful, and blamed Grace. It's expected of adults to have some grasp of things but the fact that the children were the monsters is dispiriting.
Id personality compare it too the train scene in the joker where he's getting beat up but their is no bulid up that he's going to use the gun until he fires it
I think the mom that died at the beginning could have also been one of the dad's previous patient. She was emotionally dependent to her ex-husband and the dad seem to seek more personal gratification in a marriage then real love or healthy relationships.
I had trouble seeing it that way at first. I thought the dad was just being an average idiot in a horror movie. The kids in a horror movie are usually seen as the victim of circumstances and any new things that enter their lives are seen as the source evil that disrupts a loving home. But I appreciate how this movie completely turned that script around. It felt.. kind of fresh.
actually, it was the brat's fault, the poor girl was just trying to start a new life she even risked her own life to try to save the spoiled pieces of shit
And this is why you need to send kids to counseling after their parental figure does, especially by suicide. Otherwise the kids are going to get wrapped up in their own thoughts, and then come up with their own warped conclusions on the matter. Also don’t take away people’s medication.
Considering how uneducated the majority of people are when it comes to mental health, this is never going to happen on a large scale. Never ending droves of fucked people.
And the father is a fucking psychologist. The whole situation is his fault, because if he did his job right, and did not break rules like the one that says you're not allowed to date your patients, he, his ex-wife and his kids would have lived, and Grace might actually have recovered.
This and Unfriended. Horror stories where you start off cheering for the victims, then ending up supporting the ghost/killer because turns out the victims are assholes.
Unfriended? The Movie where the Ghost was some off the bat crazy bitch? and The Victim was just a regular girl trying to be nice and it back fired??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
@@sayidinaumarachfisti3478 it was sleeping pills, it was to make her pass out. and when she did, that's the time they started hiding everything from the house. remember when she went insane aiden said : "should we let her take sleeping pills again?"
kids took it too damn far. the minute she told them she NEEDS it, they should've at least given her meds back. they already knew about her past. sorry to say but they deserved it. I still blame the dad, why would he leave the kids alone when they obviously hated her? that's just plain irresponsible.
I agree and definitely irresponsible on the dads part but I’m sure he didn’t think his kids would mentally torture her and kill her dog. The kids should take the blame as well.
It's common to try to get your kids to get used to their new mother. It's not his fault that his children were complete psychopaths. He seemed to genuinely love both Grace and his children and he wanted them to get along.
@@cordyceps182 Finally someone not shitting on the dad. He was probably dating grace for a substantial amount of time. Being a psychiatrist of sorts means he would have known that with her meds she was of stable mind. Was getting frequent calls from his daughter saying its cool. He would have no reason to believe his kids would attempt to mentally torture grace into committing suicide. The dad was trying to integrate Grace into their family, and how he went about it is a normal attempt at creating a bond between kids and a step parent. Like a step dad taking his wife's son camping.
Just to point out the suicide in the beginning is very disturbing, based on the fact that the way the body jumps back then slowly slumps down is scarily accurate to a real life suicide and not some Hollywood whatever shot scene.
What does it matter how he knows? That's how it generally happens if sitting down. The kick back from the shot then it's all gravity. Disturbing, but accurate. Just good film directing.
U didn't even mention all the HATRED the kids were already feeling for her! She was coping fine enough as an ex cult member + she never chose it 😐 -- she was born into it!!!!!
Still the kids fault. "Oh this lady we know that has had a troubled past is being kind to us? Making sure we're taken care of? well shes not our real mom, lets push her back into insanity because not mom!" The kid's are absolute garbage and the true villains.
That was where the movie almost lost me completely. "My kids absolutely hate you, so why don't you hang out with them for a few days in the middle of nowhere? Also, just want to remind the audience that there's a gun in this movie."
@@makemebad153 The kids should not have done that, but nevertheless the father’s decision to leave them with a disturbed woman they didn’t know, with a gun, in a winter lodge that can get snowed in with no one around for miles, is absolutely wrong to begin with.
I can’t watch horrors, especially supernatural ones, but listening to these at work is a great way to experience these movies without the scare and horror. Thanks for watching the movies for me :)
I used to be that way and only got into horror because of the hype around The Babadook. I saw FoundFlix and a bunch of other videos discussing it which made me really interested. After watching that movie I was like, holy crap, horror is amazing. I thought it was all gore and a bunch of crap like that. But the tense psychological stuff is great and I’ve loved the genre ever since. Still not a slasher fan because I don’t find those scary, just violent.
I liked this, then saw that it was 666th so i retracted it. _I can't in good conscience be that sacreligious._ *but i can't in good humor not say something about it, either, so...* -ill just be seeing myself out now.-
While I give the kids a lot of blame for their fate, their father was even worse to me. His kids were going through grief over their mother's suicide which traumatized them and only 6 months in he's talking about marrying his new piece? They made it clear that they didn't want to be stuck with his girlfriend and they had strong negative feelings toward her and instead of putting their feelings first (and giving them more time) he insists they go on a trip with him and his girlfriend to the log cabin they used to go to with their mother. The icing on the cake he leaves them alone with a woman they hate and has mental illness. And he gives her access to the gun safe. Genius! Those kids needed intense therapy for their grief not a week long trip with his new gf.
Ima just say i was so happy when she shot him and made those kids sit at the table with their rotting corpse of a father. I felt so much relief and joy that the kids didnt just have a classic happy movie ending but I do hope she let the kids live so that they will have to live with consequences of the memories of their suicdial mother and singing a song at a table with their dead father. But I guess killing them is also a good alternative ending for what they did. That ending singing scene was the best scene in the whole movie filled me with joy that the hero of the story won and made the kids sing in front of their dad with a bullet hole between his eyes. It’s like everybody that deserved it got what they deserved at the end great movie Scary at first Joyous at the end
I still don't think that just because you hate someone you would kill their dog or torture them.... The kids- really did inherit their mother's craziness
“I’ll just leave my grieving children alone with my traumatized, heavily medicated, former patient that I left their mother for until Christmas even though they’ve never met and are absolute strangers. It’s fool proof!” I just......Everyone in this movie needs to be placed under arrest
Patient? Dude wasn’t a doctor. Didn’t even know she was medicated. If you watch the movie it actually shows she hides that part of her from him. If he was her Doctor, I’m pretty sure he would’ve known she was heavily medicated. But yeah it’s definitely fair that you and others stigmatize mentally ill people being unsafe and unstable, and conveniently ignore that the kids planned this entire forced suicide in advance. Pathetic takes in these comments honestly
Mason who stigmatized mentally ill people?? Where in my comment did I say anything bad about mental illnesses? If you /actually/ read my comment and didn’t let your emotions regurgitate in to your keyboard then you would see that I said not a bad thing about her character or her mental illness. What exactly are you on? You need to direct that aggression towards someone who is clearly attacking this (imaginary) character because it surely was not me
Cool facts- her cult leader dad, is the actress actual dad that apparently grew up a couple of years in a cult & the house on the hill was a house they found, so not build for the set, but no longer exist.
How is that cool look more into the occult you wont think it's so cool man. Adrenochrome is their favorite thing to harvest. Derived from the pineal gland, anton lavey teaches it's best when a child is in complete state of utter fear. God bless my friend.
@@wakeupothersasmuchasucan6825 r u stupid lmao? they werent saying how the occult is cool, they were just talking about some the persons dad and the house
Jae Ben by “cool” I’m sure they don’t mean it’s awesome what the guy’s cult did... a more “appropriate” word for the cult/sad connection would be interesting. The house not being a set, just something they found is cool as hell though. So uh... maybe try being less of a pessimistic, self righteous prick eh?
@@nunyabiznes33 they didnt kill the dog. It wasnt a part of the plan. Mia accidentally left the door open and it ran out. I dont think their plan was to just fuck with Grace, they also wanted her to confess to the murders she commited when she was in the cult as a little girl.
@@jadecleveland865 it was part of the plan. Mia purposely left the door open and felt guilty about it afterwards. The door was not open at night when they all fell asleep from the gas heater and when she woke up the dog and all belongings were gone. Meaning the dog was gone because of Mia opening the door. Unless ur tryna say Grace killed her own dog, as that is the only other suspect besides Mia who opened the door. They knew how much that dog meant to her.
The doll house in the opening scene was set up exactly the way the last scene ended. Family members around the table with a gun on it. Who set up the doll house??
"The poor kids" drove her crazy and for some reason thought she was kidding she told them she needed those pills. Horror movie children are terrible is the moral of this story.
Not so much. I can empathize with the kids as my father left my mother for another woman when I was four. Fast forward ten years of it affecting my mother, younger brother, and grandparents (they took us in when he abandoned us) and I still hated his mistress. I still had my mother and I'd have done anything to make the other woman miserable. If I had lost her, well, Aiden and Mia would seem kind by comparison of the actions I'd have taken. TL;DR: You can't understand the pain and the thoughts of a child experiencing that unless you, too, have lived it.
Epsilon Xero -So I haven’t gone through this personally, so no real weight behind my own opinion, but driving someone insane for something that is really not their fault seems a bit much. Hating a new member of the family, especially the replacement for a recently deceased mom, makes a lot of sense, but the kids in this movie go far enough that I think it’s basically comeuppance. While the dad basically started the whole thing (unintentionally, but still, a bit more common sense dude), the actions the kids took around someone who was still recovering from insanity seemed pretty inexcusable.
@@1_atlas_7 Yeah the kids were little shits but they were just kids, they didn't know how bad her trauma was or what this "prank" would do to her. They were blinded by rage and being kids they just didn't understand how stupid and messed up their actions were. The dad was dumb too, why would you leave your kids alone with someone mentally unstable and why would he suddenly just leave his girlfriend all alone with children that clearly don't like her when he knows she's troubled.
@@1_atlas_7 That's exactly it, they're kids. Kids have a tendency to not think things through or look at the harm they could be doing. They feel, they act. This film wouldn't work if the kids were adults, unless they were drooling mad. 90+% of adults who watch this movie will conclude that the kids got exactly what they deserved. The other 10% have lived through something very similar.
1) You missed the detail of Aidan drugging Grace's drink. That's how the kids managed to hide all the stuff without her waking up. And yes, they did plan all of it from the very beginning. There is a scene of them sitting in front of the dollhouse and quietly talking before the travel to the cabin, they were clearly discussing their plan back then. And Aidan is also shown to pack up some climbing equipment, that how he managed to fake his hanging later on. 2) Grace didn't shoot Richard because she got angry with him for not listening or whatever. She tried to persuade him that he's already dead and was sure nothing would actually happen - you also didn't mention the fact that she tried to shoot herself first, but the gun misfired. By the way, it's so interesting that every character in the family dies or is about to die from a gunshot. I mean, the filmmakers could choose a different form of suicide for Laura, but they chose the gun. It makes all the deaths feel like one long connected tragedy, like it was somehow Grace's inescapable fate to destroy the whole family. 3) I must say, I have some questions to this characters. The dad's decision to leave is stupid on multiple levels. I mean, the trip to the cabin takes 5-6 hours, if the roads are clean. So, his plan was to drive 5-6 hours to the cabin, then, the very next day, 5-6 hours back home, then, in a few days, 5-6 hours back to the cabin, and then, after Christmas, 5-6 more hours back home? I know that people in US have a thing for cars and driving, but isn't that exhausting? And the kids decisions are stupid too. I'm not even talking about the whole gaslighting idea, but why don't they stop the whole thing after Grace becomes physically dangerous, hitting Mia? That's the moment they should've realized they are stuck with a crazy lady, who NEEDS her medication. And why didn't they steal the gun from her even after they had seen it? Also, they are worried that she will freeze to death when she seats outside for too long, and that's what makes them tell her the truth. But why didn't they do it when she decided to walk to a town, wearing no outer clothing but a blanket? She totally could have died at that point. Also, after they realize she's dangerous, why do they hide in the attic that has no locking door? Their room has one, and the basement has this secret area where they hid all the stuff, why not go there? And please don't say they're just kids. According to the obituary, Aidan is 17. He should have known better.
@@DrExpresso Many people who watch this channel mainly want summaries of movies they're too busy/scared to watch. "Repeating the whole movie back" is exactly what plenty of viewers are looking for.
@@DrExpresso I watch the channel just so I can understand when people talk about and so that I can get the experience of watching the movie in a small amount of time
I just realized Aiden must have spiked graces hot chocolate with the sleeping pill later mentioned. That’s how they were able to move everything without her noticing.
I think you're right. And that's one more messed up thing the kids did. Drugging anyone is a disgusting idea, but drugging a person who's currently taking some psychiatric medication you know nothing about is even worse. Who knows how those drugs will interact, and any medical help is miles away. They could have just killed her.
I have a step mom. Hated her. Thought she was taking away my dad from me and my siblings. We grew up and got a long. NEVER had it gone to a point like that. I feel for the kids, but blame them for their downfall.
i didnt like my stepmom because she was part of the reason of my parent's divorce. Slowly but surely our relationship did get a bit better and i kinda left a impact as her kids dont get his last name but i do (even though im not his biological son). All in all these kids had no right to do this to grace
KittenPyroNao Exactly! Also same with my stepbrother he didn’t get my dads last name. They shouldn’t have done this to her. Especially with a past like that. Even if it was to drive her away, plans like that go south so fast. Even if it be to their extent or Grace and the dad splitting.
@@spongegar7588 It seems like they were already separated so they already knew they were getting a divorce. Seems like the dad already moved on and the only reason they hadn't fully divorced was because the mom still thought she could put it back together.
The cult from Grace's past was based on Heaven's Gate, a cult, where 39 members also committed mass suicide in a communal house with shrouds covering their bodies.
I just thought of something when the kids assured is safe to keep the gas heater in such indoor place. It's mostly a very risky move. But, they have been using it on the attic therefore before all pandemonium, foreshadowing the fact since the energy went out, they had a source of warmth in the cold attic. And Laura left the door open on purpose at night to give Grace the opportunity of hypothermia. And then the dog escaped.
i feel so bad for grace especially with what happened to her dog. that dog was symbolic of her finally gaining control of her life and those assholes killed it and killed off the little light in grace with it.
It's interesting how, even though the lady killed the kids and the father, she is easily the most likable character. The father is dating her as a pet project, probably did the same with the kids mom. The kids were unbelievably messed up shitlords who thought it'd be funny to take medication away from a woman who literally depends on it, just cause she fell in love with their father. The ex-cult girl literally did nothing wrong in all honesty, it's not her fault that she was raised in a cult, hell, she saw hundreds of dead bodies at a super young age, she was deeply affected by that alone. Kids are stupid, dad is a bad person, the lady is just tryna be a good person till she snaps.
Ngl you can’t blame Grace for going insane because of the kids’ prank. Hell, even I believed it and got freaked out by it, and I was just watching it in a movie!
I've heard a lot of people compare this movie to Hereditary (and often say "it's not as scary as Hereditary"), and while I think some of the comparisons are kind of warranted, The Lodge left me with a deeper sense of complete tragedy than Hereditary did. Hereditary was terrifying and bleak and deeply disturbing, but this movie is the very definition of tragedy: everything that happens could have been avoided, but the characters curse themselves at every turn. When it was over I just felt bereft. Great summary and explanation as always, FoundFlix!
Its because they are both about cults and a lot of settings are set in the dark. They both have some kind of a warm tone brown black setting in the movie
Seriously, I knew nothing was good coming from that. THEN WHEN I SAW WHAT HAPPENED OMG. My dog looks similar to him, white and cuddly, I went to hug my dog.
Why does everyone think the dad was a psychologist? At the beginning of the movie, the kids ask about Grace being apart of their dad’s book. He was a writer and met her while researching cults. Also, I’m pretty positive he didn’t know she was medicated. There is a scene in the lodge where he enters their room while Grace is taking her pills and she hides them behind her back without him noticing. She was never his patient. Don’t know how that idea came about. Anyway, the kids were little sociopaths that shouldn’t of touched her medication in the first place. I felt no sympathy for them in the end.
To be honest, I haaaaated everyone in this movie, except Grace. She went through hell and then once she started to heal, everyone sends her right back. Imo, Grace isn't the villain at all.
Asha Brooke it was good. Really good. To be able to make you feel awful for the character that ended up murdering the only innocent character?? They did a good job making the protagonist look like the antagonist and you still hope for her survival.
@@pbower4378 I agree with Asha too a point, but I also agree with yours as well. I just hope that in the future if they do decide to go on with a sequel of some sort and Grace makes a re-appearance that they don't make her out to be the villain. Maybe at first, but later on she snaps out of it and the ends up saving the children at some point showing them that she was a good person in the end and realize how fucked up they both are or something.
I have never hated two kids more than this. I also lost my dad and have a stepfather I'm not too fond of, but if I found out he was a suicide cult survivor I wouldn't gaslight him back into insanity. Not because I would be scared of him hurting me, but because I have fucking decency. Grief is a reason, but not an excuse.
Honestly it was the fathers fault. The children where deeply disturbed by the mothers suicide and that's very evident, he pushed the girlfriend on them (children)with no training wheels so to speak and then left them alone. The children where assholes and understood what they where doing to a point but if the father was able to rehabilitate his girlfriend he should've seen signs in his children..
Nat Lang that’s what I am saying a couple punches would fix that acctitude immediately, but you can’t blame the father he just wanted there kids to know there stepmother those kids were not assholes, they were to psychopaths that not only didn’t care for her they literally showed not empathy until they saw there lives were are risk now I don’t know about you but that clearly the work of someone who has clearly no regard for the other well-being
@@toptiertech7291 that doesn’t warrant their treatment of her?? “She hid my mommy doll, let’s make her relive her trauma, take away her meds, and kill her dog”
@@danalang9953 no. Not “she hid my mommy doll”. She hid the doll that was made to look like the girls dead mother. They already blamed her for their mothers death. So that’s 2 instances of her getting rid of their mom
Yes grieving children who made a terrible mistake by not understanding the seriousness of mental health (not to mention they feel this woman is responsable for the death of their mother) deserve to be traumatized, sure
Oh I thought the twist was going to be that she was hallucinating/dying the whole time due to the heater releasing carbon monoxide into a trapped space, since it was faulty and hissing. Whoop.
I actually really like that they decided to flip the assumption on its head and do a opposite of the sixth sense trope with it turning out the whole movie was just a big PSA as to why tormenting people with their past trauma is a horrible and sadistic idea that can harm a lot of people even those not involved, without going overboard and breaking away from its core story and characters
The real villain is the dad. He knew how traumatized and hurt his kids were and also knew his girlfriend was mentally unstable and traumatized. He knew that the kids blamed the girlfriend for their mom taking her own life. We gotta remember theyre kids - that said they aren’t going to understand things as an adult would. That said, neither the kids or Grace were in the right mental state to be left ALONE in a lodge in the middle of nowhere.
Actually, the argument of "they're kids" doesn't hold up since children can learn right from wrong at the age of five and onwards, and can understand concepts such as death, torture, and abuse, and the implications of what they entail. While the father shouldn't have left all three together, it's ultimately the fault of the children for going through with their premeditated attempt at causing their step mother to commit suicide. One of the reasons why we shouldn't underestimate how much children do understand about the seriousness of their actions, is because it does lead to real world nightmares. Such as the Jamie Bulger Killers who at the age of ten, premeditated a kidnapping of a two year old, and then proceeded to sexually torture and finally murder them, only being caught because their attempts at hiding their wrong doings by dumping the body on a train track lead to an investigation. They revealed in later interviews that they fully understood what they did and why they did so, even if one of them was utterly unrepentant of their actions.
@@insertname7325 Sure but if you look back on things you did when you were younger I’m sure there’s something you can say “yeah that probably wasn’t the best idea”. Our judgment as children isn’t the best. we often did things and didn’t understand the severity of certain choices.
@@patricecorner4877 No not really? I never stole, I never bullied anyone, I never did anything that I would ever change if I had the chance to, I never decided to mentally torture someone out of a misguided want for revenge. I didn't need to understand the consequences for things that I could go "this is wrong", that was enough to simply know without context.
@@insertname7325 You’re forgetting the fact that these kids are angry that their mom is dead. Instead of grieving and just being said, they are bitter. They seem to take their anger out on the girlfriend by pranking her. Of course it backfired. Good to hear you were a perfect child though!
i mean their mother killed herself only 6 months earlier. and they are being forced to stay with basically her replacement. that’s not an ideal situation for anyone
Honestly this movie is just really sad when thinking about it from Grace’s perspective. Everyone in the family sucked and honestly I find it hard to have sympathy for the kids knowing they knew what they were doing.
Uh I feel bad for the father imagine trying to file a devorce and having the lady blow her brains out and start this mess, and if those two bastards were her kids they must have inherited the crazy from her cus that dad seems pretty sane to me. They had already been separated for while and he was just trying to finalize it.
I don't know how anyone can call this movie bleak. Its not bleak its a tragedy, a literal shakespearean tragedy, and god its so satisfying to see everyone get exactly what they wrought.
Sounds like a born again reference when the mirror said repent, typical cult like ‘ if you don’t repent you will go to hell ‘, typical born again bullshit, usually hyped up by people who have lots of drugs in the past then suddenly want to tell everyone they are born again, idiots.
Rag Bang No. The mom is obviously mentally unwell to begin with. A healthy person does not kill themselves over a divorce. They are sad and grow to move on. The dad is the one that seems to have a thing for mentally ill women.
Because The Others is a English version of a Spanish gothic tale, it's the 1st film that is English spoken to ever win a Goya Award. In fact the film has 7 Goya Awards (Spain's national film awards). It's won 3 Saturn Awards. It was also nominated for 1 Golden Globe award and 2 BAFTA awards. It also grossed over $200 million at the box office on a $17 million budget. A remake is already in the works. But yeah, "it hasn't gotten much attention".
@@JesusWillSaveYou OP said it hasn't gotten much attention "on here," and if we take that phrase to mean "on RUclips," it hasn't. Despite all of those accolades, a quick search for reviews of that highly acclaimed movie shows that no review has received more than 100K views. In fact, the only videos about The Others that did receive more than 100K views are clips and trailers.
The child actor in Babadook would like a word. That scene of him in the car elicited so much hatred I was like, wow, this kid is amazingly talented. Not to mention the seizure right after is chilling.
I’m just trying to figure out was they were thinking when they said: let’s prank a mass suicide cult survivor😃. And the worst thing is that they took her meds honestly idk what they were expecting in the end
exactly. their end point was for her to go insane, but did they really think that wasn’t going to leave them with consequences..like what did they expect to happen for them the moment she completely lost it especially knowing her past. they should’ve stopped it the moment she asked them if it was a prank.
@@daylenolivia6577 Plus, they went out of their way to buy that harness and other stuff., never thinking at any point that what they were doing was going to be too much. Plus, there's literally nowhere to go after driving her insane... with a gun. What would they have done then?
I feel bad for grace she was realy trying with these kids and move past her trauma and these kids and there dumb father ended up sending her back into a dark space.
Ever hear of the spoiler paradox? Apparently knowing how a movie is going to end actually makes you enjoy it more. So get out there and start enjoying some spoiled movies! :)
A side note to speculate on is that "Aiden" has roots in Latin, meaning "Firestarter" perhaps a choice by the writer as Aiden is the one who decides to break their new maternal figure into a relapse in personalities. Grace is metaphorically ignited by Aiden, with her use of fire to mutilate herself, burn the doll, and eventually kill the kids father.
@Troll uNeed the father should've got them help and had common sense to not leave his gf alone with grieving kids that think they're mom is being replaced. The parent is responsible for the child actions. You cant blame the kids since they're grieving still and since they cant think clearly.
@ewok king I'm not blaming her but the husband was basically experimenting with someone who grew up in such a dangerous and traumatic lifestyle with his dysfunctional psychopathic children tormenting her.
At the end The Lodge felt like it intended to be the most fucked up cautionary tale ever made. That final scene was BRUTAL, but I found it extremely cathartic (in the darkest way possible).
The ending in this was kinda unexpected usually the person races to get to the situation and saves everyone, But the dad arrived only to get shot and then everyone dies
And the twist was good also. I didn’t know it was the kids doing until the movie made it obvious. I’m also not one of those guys who tries to guess the twist the whole movie to seem smart. Flix never gives a twist credit, ever.
J M I mean... when you’ve seen every kind of twist there is and have a good sense of it then it becomes obvious. So I don’t blame him for not giving credit for twist endings. The only twist I’ve ever seen that I didn’t see coming was The Mist, it’s so tragic and gut wrenching.
@@josh.y When the brother is very hostile in one scene, and giving her a mug of coffee or whatever in the next scene, it seemed obvious they were drugging her, the little girl warming up to her however was believable, and was a shock when she was in on the scheme too
It was also kinda stupid that the dad didnt ask the kids to contact the ONLY adult in the house when it turns out the kids were in contact with him the whole time atleast at the beginning part when they were snowed in
this one legitimately made me have a break down just because i have such an awful time watching characters who are trying their best despite the circumstances theyre in get everything ruined for them INTENTIONALLY by other people. like grace was on her way to rehabilitation and genuinely trying with these kids and they ruined her entire life and psyche. im so incredibly heartbroken for her.
Oh don’t forget the dog bro! I get that they are clearly very traumatised children but you gotta draw the line somewhere…. They literally researched about her and knew how tough she had it, and then planned the whole thing… They completely knew about her background in cult and then came up with that whole purgatory thing… Literally targeted to fuck her up…. Now I’m no mental expert but you can’t chalk this psychopathic behaviour to just “grief” and “being children”….
Precisely. I felt sorry for the kids at the beginning when their mom died, but their pain didn't give them the right to hurt Grace like that. In the final scene I thought to myself; "Children, this is harsh, but you brought it upon yourselves!"
It definitely seems that the kids were sociopaths trying to indirectly kill Grace. I mean, she literally journeyed out into a frozen wasteland where she could freeze to death to get help for them, and instead of revealing that everything was fake and they could call for help, they made a weak attempt to stop her and then continued to gaslight her even worse when she came back. I can understand hating her and blaming her for their mom's death since they're mourning kids, but they knew that she could have died trying to help them and they still decided that she needed to suffer more and ended up paying the ultimate price for their actions.
"The poor kids"? I'm sorry, the little a-holes knew she had trauma and weaponized it to make her crack. This movie feels like the feature length meaning of "THEY HAD IT COMIN'".
Exactly girl first , quick. Boy maybe she has sum lil cult speech to give him before she do what she do but yeah in my opinion girl first then the boy lol
Coming back and looking at this again I have so much anger for the father. It's pretty clear that Grace was his patient and it seems likely that his ex-wife was ALSO a patient. The guy was skeevey and targeted unstable women. And beyond that he got these kids zero therapy after their mother's death. In the very least he should have lost his freaking license.
...I have no sympathy for that family. Sure, those kids lost their mom and still weren't able to move on. But that doesn't excuse what they did to Grace. The father is no better. My question is if Grace was his patient. If so, then someone must've lost his license from ever practicing psychology. ¬¬
I agree with you the kids took it too far so evil kids God forbid to actually come across this kind of people. their Mother killed her self, Grace had nothing to do with it. There was no point on leaving them stranded on a remote place without even a car or actual emergency equipment or cameras for a safety check. When you leaving a deer with fox yes these kids are cunning fox. They just paid for what they did.
What did the father do I know this video is old but like she sold no signs of mental disability he did not know about her taking meds also there was a time skip so you can't say he just pushed it onto them after their mother died and what you just get a married woman and not tell your kids no you when your kids to get to know the woman that's going to be their mother isn't their fault for being vindictive and evil and then they say it's a prank also it's not her fault her father was a cult leader you didn't even see her partake in the suicide which means she wasn't crazy what she had was a father that pushed to the ideals onto her and made her have trauma that's what the medication was to prevent trauma those kids board about that trauma
@@saleeksmith4765 I think she just appeared vulnerable. Also the kids found videos of her, so I'm not sure if the father knew her or met her and fell in love because of the research into the cult. I believe the fiancé had PTSD from the cult murders, she didn't take part but she walked around and video everyone dead in their bed. Which is kind of odd behavior. I think the PTSD and the trauma was resurfaced by the children - who were also grieving due to their mother's suicide. It was definitely just a mess and everyone needed mental health help. The father was behaving like everything was normal and he could put his family back together in an instant and replan the mother. That was not going to happen. Very good movie with different ideals and views
This movie reminds me of an "Am I the asshole?" post where this guy who has schizophrenia and his gf got into it because she hid his medication, and she waited until he had a full on panic induced tearful breakdown to say that she hid them as a prank. She then had the audacity to play victim when he yelled at her for doing it, I think it took him like an hr of searching before it got to that point. She kept telling him that she didn't know he couldn't handle a joke. The kicker is, it was the bf who made the "Am I the asshole?" post.
God please tell me he broke up with her
I hate it when people call cruelty "pranks".
Do people actually believe anything that is on that Reddit?
As a person with schizophrenia, that is a dark thing for her to do. Never ever mess with any kind of meds. That’s not something you can use for a prank.
She is obviously an abuser and he needs to break up with her.
Moral of the story: don't gaslight sole survivors of suicide cults. I know that might seem kind of specific, but it's pretty sound logic.
Or any traumatized people.
Don't gaslight them, just gas them.
In fairness to the kids, their dad didn’t let them have closure for their mom
@@tanyanikolaevagizdova6571 less specific, but still sound.
Golden Rose that isn’t an excuse
Lesson of the movie: pranks that hurt someone’s mental health are not good pranks 👏
Tbh the kids deserved it
Pranks are supposed to be funny. They stop being jokes when it hurts another person.
@@ANite-vx1vk Or animal.
@@ANite-vx1vk pranks was never be good. Btw who invented this ? Jokes already good enough for human emotions and interactions, pranks more like - "oops sorry i kill your dog, its just a prank bro!"
@Ios5513 the dad didnt deserve it thou
I thought the little girl took the cake for the acting. The crying in the beginning of the film and the sheer horrific crying during the "Last Supper". She showed true emotion.
Also her scream when the dad dies... Gut churning...
@@Voeris1 u mean happiness, thats the first time in the movie where the tide turns in grace’s favor and the kids/villians got what they deserved. A forever lasting memory of their dad spilling brain juice over a dinner table with them as they sing a song together. The best punishment for those bitches ever. I hope she didnt kill them so they relive that everyday for at least the next 35 years of their lives.
@@michaelt1931 “kids got what they deserved” seriously… y’all people is fuckin sick in the head … regardless of anything they still kids bro
@@michaelt1931 like you need some help
Same.
Just watched this. Moral of the story: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
seriously... what the fuck were they thinking? I guess they inherited their dad's idiot genes for ignoring red flags and playing with fire, so I guess this movie was about... natural selection?
Sometimes when people make bad decisions in horrors I try to overlook it, but when the whole film centers around bad decisions it gets kind of hard to ignore...
Edit: on second thought, it was less stupid and more just straight up cruel. If you wanna blame someone blame your dad. Grace didn’t choose to be born into a cult, why take it out on her? And they even killed the DOG. FUCK THEM KIDS!!!
Historie yeah every character was psychotic except for the kids dad.
@@LeerinKasane All kids are psycho. Most just aren't competent enough to pull something like that off.
@@Regless0000 ya know, that's make sense
Those kids needed serious counselling and I blame the dad for leaving them all alone and everything that happened
i think also with the applying makeup excessively at the beginning wasnt just her hoping at reconciliation but perhaps for her to put on a front to show that she is doing well and moving on like he is despite her obvious issues after the separation.
"Oh no, the formerly mentally unstable person we pushed back into insanity is now trying to kill us! How could we have seen this coming?"
In all fairness, it is EXACTLY the kind of stupid plan I expect to be cooked up by a couple of kids.
Dork One I hope they thought their prank was fucking funny.
And whose meds we took away and didnt give back
Nice going. My opinion of idiots getting what they deserve remains unchanged
@@JakobTheCenturion i did
This was honestly one of the psychological movies that had me really emotional. Especially when Grace was clutching her dog. She mentioned that the dog was one of the few things she got after surviving from the cult and now it's dead.
This movie was so bleak, caused by actual human beings and that makes it even scary.
I KNOW
LIKE ARE YOU FOR REAL WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT
@@starbaby6409 They blamed her for their mothers death so they wanted her to suffer, I love how karma got even with them in the end.
Even worse, caused by children because they were children. They were angry, spiteful, and blamed Grace. It's expected of adults to have some grasp of things but the fact that the children were the monsters is dispiriting.
Imma be honest that scene where laura shot herself actually made me jump even though there was no sound that shit caught me wayyy off guard
Id personality compare it too the train scene in the joker where he's getting beat up but their is no bulid up that he's going to use the gun until he fires it
Reminds me of the Joker shooting Roberto Dinero
Me too, it was pretty graphic
@@naivenitara same vibe were told that he's going to kill himself live on tv but pulls a 180
Honestly same i wasnt expecting that at all
TAKING MEDS AWAY FROM A FORMER CULT MEMBER PRANK (gone wrong!! 😱) (gone sexual!!!) (we die??? 🤔)
3minutes should’ve been the title for the movie lmaooo
Gaystation where you at???
this is pretty accurate tbh 😅
😅😅😅
(EMOTIONAL)
I think the mom that died at the beginning could have also been one of the dad's previous patient.
She was emotionally dependent to her ex-husband and the dad seem to seek more personal gratification in a marriage then real love or healthy relationships.
Pretty positive that was the implication.
I had trouble seeing it that way at first. I thought the dad was just being an average idiot in a horror movie. The kids in a horror movie are usually seen as the victim of circumstances and any new things that enter their lives are seen as the source evil that disrupts a loving home. But I appreciate how this movie completely turned that script around. It felt.. kind of fresh.
Ok I
@@MrSupernaturalLife but she wasn't his patient?
cool fanfic
The moms suicide scared the shit out of me because I didn’t expect anything interesting at all that early.
Same, it was so quick and unexpected
Well after that we haven't seen anything interesting for 1 hour so..
This is why you don’t mess with people’s mental states 🤦🏾♂️
Now we have a movie to use as a reference of how bad it can get
@@kalishiva18 yes!
That's why I don't date.
I don't need the extra stress.
actually, it was the brat's fault, the poor girl was just trying to start a new life
she even risked her own life to try to save the spoiled pieces of shit
Logan Daniels more like no one wants you
I love how little foundflix has changed same style shorts same background same amazing energy
“if it aint broke dont fix it”
@@FocusWayne for real, he's still killin' it. Doesn't need to change a thing
I was literally just thinking this. He and Krimson Rogue both have this kind of style and I dig it. If it ain't broke don't fix it lol
James. A. Janisse (deadmeat) is really great also 👍
You always know what to expect in the best way
And this is why you need to send kids to counseling after their parental figure does, especially by suicide. Otherwise the kids are going to get wrapped up in their own thoughts, and then come up with their own warped conclusions on the matter. Also don’t take away people’s medication.
Considering how uneducated the majority of people are when it comes to mental health, this is never going to happen on a large scale. Never ending droves of fucked people.
And the father is a fucking psychologist. The whole situation is his fault, because if he did his job right, and did not break rules like the one that says you're not allowed to date your patients, he, his ex-wife and his kids would have lived, and Grace might actually have recovered.
Agreed
@@inferiorinferno8859 He was not, he was an author.
Amen.
This and Unfriended. Horror stories where you start off cheering for the victims, then ending up supporting the ghost/killer because turns out the victims are assholes.
In unfriended the victim was a plain sociopath.
Unfriended? The Movie where the Ghost was some off the bat crazy bitch? and The Victim was just a regular girl trying to be nice and it back fired??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
It’s just a movie you acting like these kids would actually do something like this 😐Jesus Christ
@@poopyscoopy6984 The victims, all of them, deserved it because they were so mean to Laura, causing her to kill them as revenge
@@poopyscoopy6984 I think you're thinking about friend request
Something you didn’t point out: Aidens “peace offering” hot chocolate was drugged.
Main point
I immediately thought that. Aiden's change of attitude was very sudden.
Maybe it's her pills. Aiden just worried
@@sayidinaumarachfisti3478 it was sleeping pills, it was to make her pass out. and when she did, that's the time they started hiding everything from the house. remember when she went insane aiden said : "should we let her take sleeping pills again?"
Drew Schultz I hade a feeling that there was something in that I was telling my mom
kids took it too damn far. the minute she told them she NEEDS it, they should've at least given her meds back. they already knew about her past. sorry to say but they deserved it. I still blame the dad, why would he leave the kids alone when they obviously hated her? that's just plain irresponsible.
the kids got what they deserved
I agree and definitely irresponsible on the dads part but I’m sure he didn’t think his kids would mentally torture her and kill her dog. The kids should take the blame as well.
It's common to try to get your kids to get used to their new mother. It's not his fault that his children were complete psychopaths. He seemed to genuinely love both Grace and his children and he wanted them to get along.
@@cordyceps182 Finally someone not shitting on the dad. He was probably dating grace for a substantial amount of time. Being a psychiatrist of sorts means he would have known that with her meds she was of stable mind. Was getting frequent calls from his daughter saying its cool. He would have no reason to believe his kids would attempt to mentally torture grace into committing suicide. The dad was trying to integrate Grace into their family, and how he went about it is a normal attempt at creating a bond between kids and a step parent. Like a step dad taking his wife's son camping.
The dad honestly saw it as somesick game. I gurantee he considered this outcome
Just to point out the suicide in the beginning is very disturbing, based on the fact that the way the body jumps back then slowly slumps down is scarily accurate to a real life suicide and not some Hollywood whatever shot scene.
Afraid to ask how you know
How do you know?
I was thinking the same thing. It looks too good to the point its disturbing
Budd Dwyer.
What does it matter how he knows? That's how it generally happens if sitting down. The kick back from the shot then it's all gravity. Disturbing, but accurate. Just good film directing.
"Hey!, I know you're still recovering from your past but hey here's a gun and have fun with my kids.."-Worst Dad ever
U didn't even mention all the HATRED the kids were already feeling for her! She was coping fine enough as an ex cult member + she never chose it 😐 -- she was born into it!!!!!
Still the kids fault. "Oh this lady we know that has had a troubled past is being kind to us? Making sure we're taken care of? well shes not our real mom, lets push her back into insanity because not mom!" The kid's are absolute garbage and the true villains.
That was where the movie almost lost me completely. "My kids absolutely hate you, so why don't you hang out with them for a few days in the middle of nowhere? Also, just want to remind the audience that there's a gun in this movie."
@@makemebad153 no its not. they're children the dad forced them to spend time with a women who wasn't their mother while they were still grieving.
@@makemebad153 The kids should not have done that, but nevertheless the father’s decision to leave them with a disturbed woman they didn’t know, with a gun, in a winter lodge that can get snowed in with no one around for miles, is absolutely wrong to begin with.
I can’t watch horrors, especially supernatural ones, but listening to these at work is a great way to experience these movies without the scare and horror. Thanks for watching the movies for me :)
Hey, nice comment wanna be friends?
I’m the same. Psychological horrors/thrillers are off the list too
I used to be that way and only got into horror because of the hype around The Babadook. I saw FoundFlix and a bunch of other videos discussing it which made me really interested.
After watching that movie I was like, holy crap, horror is amazing. I thought it was all gore and a bunch of crap like that. But the tense psychological stuff is great and I’ve loved the genre ever since. Still not a slasher fan because I don’t find those scary, just violent.
Same for all of us. :)
Pussy
He’s doing everything but “Circle”. Sorry about the confusion guys
There’s not much to explain
_clarke_ I think he did a vote on it. Didn’t it win?
@@ur3nder I think it lost, cos he did the other movie
@@channawijetunga4089 No it won
This is a way better movie
So Grace went John Wick on everyone when her dog died.
Basically
That sums it up.
I liked this, then saw that it was 666th so i retracted it.
_I can't in good conscience be that sacreligious._
*but i can't in good humor not say something about it, either, so...*
-ill just be seeing myself out now.-
Word.
@@JadedOne420 what are you on about
While I give the kids a lot of blame for their fate, their father was even worse to me. His kids were going through grief over their mother's suicide which traumatized them and only 6 months in he's talking about marrying his new piece? They made it clear that they didn't want to be stuck with his girlfriend and they had strong negative feelings toward her and instead of putting their feelings first (and giving them more time) he insists they go on a trip with him and his girlfriend to the log cabin they used to go to with their mother. The icing on the cake he leaves them alone with a woman they hate and has mental illness. And he gives her access to the gun safe. Genius! Those kids needed intense therapy for their grief not a week long trip with his new gf.
Right that I feel
I totally agree with that but I’m still upset mostly with the kids because they kept pushing her instead of just a simple quick scare
Ima just say i was so happy when she shot him and made those kids sit at the table with their rotting corpse of a father. I felt so much relief and joy that the kids didnt just have a classic happy movie ending but I do hope she let the kids live so that they will have to live with consequences of the memories of their suicdial mother and singing a song at a table with their dead father. But I guess killing them is also a good alternative ending for what they did. That ending singing scene was the best scene in the whole movie filled me with joy that the hero of the story won and made the kids sing in front of their dad with a bullet hole between his eyes. It’s like everybody that deserved it got what they deserved at the end great movie Scary at first Joyous at the end
I still don't think that just because you hate someone you would kill their dog or torture them.... The kids- really did inherit their mother's craziness
Agreed.
I have never wanted kids to die in a horror movie before these 2.
MissZoey007 And it seems you need reading comprehension
@@impervius8690 Or she just really hates kids in horror movies lol.
@MissZoey007
Or he just hates murderers🤷♂️
MissZoey007 i cant tell if you think all kids should die in horror movies or if no kids should die in horror movies
Ari Hurwitz they are saying they believed no kids should day in horror movies until this movie where they wished the two kids would die
“I’ll just leave my grieving children alone with my traumatized, heavily medicated, former patient that I left their mother for until Christmas even though they’ve never met and are absolute strangers. It’s fool proof!”
I just......Everyone in this movie needs to be placed under arrest
Yeah... Father needs to be fired, poor Grace needs some rest, and the kids need to go fucking jail.
Patient? Dude wasn’t a doctor. Didn’t even know she was medicated. If you watch the movie it actually shows she hides that part of her from him. If he was her Doctor, I’m pretty sure he would’ve known she was heavily medicated. But yeah it’s definitely fair that you and others stigmatize mentally ill people being unsafe and unstable, and conveniently ignore that the kids planned this entire forced suicide in advance. Pathetic takes in these comments honestly
Mason but she BECAME unsaf
Mason who stigmatized mentally ill people?? Where in my comment did I say anything bad about mental illnesses? If you /actually/ read my comment and didn’t let your emotions regurgitate in to your keyboard then you would see that I said not a bad thing about her character or her mental illness. What exactly are you on? You need to direct that aggression towards someone who is clearly attacking this (imaginary) character because it surely was not me
@@ReplyGuy22345 Only because the children stole her medication and mentally tormented her.
Cool facts- her cult leader dad, is the actress actual dad that apparently grew up a couple of years in a cult & the house on the hill was a house they found, so not build for the set, but no longer exist.
How is that cool look more into the occult you wont think it's so cool man. Adrenochrome is their favorite thing to harvest. Derived from the pineal gland, anton lavey teaches it's best when a child is in complete state of utter fear. God bless my friend.
@@wakeupothersasmuchasucan6825 r u stupid lmao? they werent saying how the occult is cool, they were just talking about some the persons dad and the house
Jae Ben damn my guy chill out 😂. I’m sure you’re a fun person to be around lol.
Jae Ben by “cool” I’m sure they don’t mean it’s awesome what the guy’s cult did... a more “appropriate” word for the cult/sad connection would be interesting. The house not being a set, just something they found is cool as hell though.
So uh... maybe try being less of a pessimistic, self righteous prick eh?
Jae Ben that’s not even true
Lavey taught not to harm children
I completely understand why kids might place blame on her in such a situation. But what they did, is beyond cruel.
Woah you completely understand ?
When they killed the dog, they've become irredeemable in my eyes. They got what they fuckin deserve.
@@nunyabiznes33 they didnt kill the dog. It wasnt a part of the plan. Mia accidentally left the door open and it ran out. I dont think their plan was to just fuck with Grace, they also wanted her to confess to the murders she commited when she was in the cult as a little girl.
@@jadecleveland865 she didn't the murders tho. They all commited suicide.
@@jadecleveland865 it was part of the plan. Mia purposely left the door open and felt guilty about it afterwards. The door was not open at night when they all fell asleep from the gas heater and when she woke up the dog and all belongings were gone. Meaning the dog was gone because of Mia opening the door. Unless ur tryna say Grace killed her own dog, as that is the only other suspect besides Mia who opened the door. They knew how much that dog meant to her.
The scariest part was when laura killed herself. I wasn't expecting that at all
Damn
Same it definitely made me jump
That came out of nowhere, I almost jumped lol
Play pumped up kicks during it, mades the moment way more predictable!
Like literally the moment when I saw the comment abt the suicide- As soon as I looked at the screen my eyes went wide af jeez
@@유나-h2j How sheltered are you people?
The doll house in the opening scene was set up exactly the way the last scene ended. Family members around the table with a gun on it. Who set up the doll house??
It was all part of the kids plan lol
@@madgeohero225 I don't think her cracking and tying them to chairs about to shoot them was all part of their plan lol.
The director
Reminded e
Reminded me of Hereditary. Another good horror film involving dollhouses. I think he also did a Explained, of that one!
"The poor kids" drove her crazy and for some reason thought she was kidding she told them she needed those pills. Horror movie children are terrible is the moral of this story.
Not so much. I can empathize with the kids as my father left my mother for another woman when I was four. Fast forward ten years of it affecting my mother, younger brother, and grandparents (they took us in when he abandoned us) and I still hated his mistress. I still had my mother and I'd have done anything to make the other woman miserable. If I had lost her, well, Aiden and Mia would seem kind by comparison of the actions I'd have taken.
TL;DR: You can't understand the pain and the thoughts of a child experiencing that unless you, too, have lived it.
@@EpsilonXero You can still criticize it, though. Especially if it directly puts their lives in danger.
Epsilon Xero -So I haven’t gone through this personally, so no real weight behind my own opinion, but driving someone insane for something that is really not their fault seems a bit much. Hating a new member of the family, especially the replacement for a recently deceased mom, makes a lot of sense, but the kids in this movie go far enough that I think it’s basically comeuppance. While the dad basically started the whole thing (unintentionally, but still, a bit more common sense dude), the actions the kids took around someone who was still recovering from insanity seemed pretty inexcusable.
@@1_atlas_7 Yeah the kids were little shits but they were just kids, they didn't know how bad her trauma was or what this "prank" would do to her. They were blinded by rage and being kids they just didn't understand how stupid and messed up their actions were. The dad was dumb too, why would you leave your kids alone with someone mentally unstable and why would he suddenly just leave his girlfriend all alone with children that clearly don't like her when he knows she's troubled.
@@1_atlas_7 That's exactly it, they're kids. Kids have a tendency to not think things through or look at the harm they could be doing. They feel, they act. This film wouldn't work if the kids were adults, unless they were drooling mad. 90+% of adults who watch this movie will conclude that the kids got exactly what they deserved. The other 10% have lived through something very similar.
1) You missed the detail of Aidan drugging Grace's drink. That's how the kids managed to hide all the stuff without her waking up.
And yes, they did plan all of it from the very beginning. There is a scene of them sitting in front of the dollhouse and quietly talking before the travel to the cabin, they were clearly discussing their plan back then. And Aidan is also shown to pack up some climbing equipment, that how he managed to fake his hanging later on.
2) Grace didn't shoot Richard because she got angry with him for not listening or whatever. She tried to persuade him that he's already dead and was sure nothing would actually happen - you also didn't mention the fact that she tried to shoot herself first, but the gun misfired.
By the way, it's so interesting that every character in the family dies or is about to die from a gunshot. I mean, the filmmakers could choose a different form of suicide for Laura, but they chose the gun. It makes all the deaths feel like one long connected tragedy, like it was somehow Grace's inescapable fate to destroy the whole family.
3) I must say, I have some questions to this characters. The dad's decision to leave is stupid on multiple levels. I mean, the trip to the cabin takes 5-6 hours, if the roads are clean. So, his plan was to drive 5-6 hours to the cabin, then, the very next day, 5-6 hours back home, then, in a few days, 5-6 hours back to the cabin, and then, after Christmas, 5-6 more hours back home? I know that people in US have a thing for cars and driving, but isn't that exhausting?
And the kids decisions are stupid too. I'm not even talking about the whole gaslighting idea, but why don't they stop the whole thing after Grace becomes physically dangerous, hitting Mia? That's the moment they should've realized they are stuck with a crazy lady, who NEEDS her medication. And why didn't they steal the gun from her even after they had seen it?
Also, they are worried that she will freeze to death when she seats outside for too long, and that's what makes them tell her the truth. But why didn't they do it when she decided to walk to a town, wearing no outer clothing but a blanket? She totally could have died at that point.
Also, after they realize she's dangerous, why do they hide in the attic that has no locking door? Their room has one, and the basement has this secret area where they hid all the stuff, why not go there?
And please don't say they're just kids. According to the obituary, Aidan is 17. He should have known better.
Well at least you explained this movie better than this dude who just repeated the whole movie back to me, seems like he's just doing it for views.
@@DrExpresso Many people who watch this channel mainly want summaries of movies they're too busy/scared to watch. "Repeating the whole movie back" is exactly what plenty of viewers are looking for.
@@DrExpresso I watch the channel just so I can understand when people talk about and so that I can get the experience of watching the movie in a small amount of time
@@DrExpresso also why does he keep on shouting???
how did aiden fake the hanging of himself???
Alright, I have never seen a funeral use black balloons. Also turn on some lights in your houses!
They have windows.. It's ok
I've never seen balloons in a funeral, period.
i have but its white
@@theonebeing981 have you ever been to a clown funeral?
They can't. They lost all power in the house cause of the storm remember
I just realized Aiden must have spiked graces hot chocolate with the sleeping pill later mentioned. That’s how they were able to move everything without her noticing.
Yeah me too I didnt at first ... beyond fucked up
Nice gainz, bro 💪🏾 I see you 👌🏾👏🏾
The more I think and learn about the movie the more I hate the kids and feel sympathetic for Grace. Damn.
I think you're right. And that's one more messed up thing the kids did. Drugging anyone is a disgusting idea, but drugging a person who's currently taking some psychiatric medication you know nothing about is even worse. Who knows how those drugs will interact, and any medical help is miles away. They could have just killed her.
yea. that’s a pretty shitty thing to do
I have a step mom. Hated her. Thought she was taking away my dad from me and my siblings. We grew up and got a long. NEVER had it gone to a point like that. I feel for the kids, but blame them for their downfall.
i didnt like my stepmom because she was part of the reason of my parent's divorce. Slowly but surely our relationship did get a bit better and i kinda left a impact as her kids dont get his last name but i do (even though im not his biological son). All in all these kids had no right to do this to grace
KittenPyroNao Exactly! Also same with my stepbrother he didn’t get my dads last name. They shouldn’t have done this to her. Especially with a past like that. Even if it was to drive her away, plans like that go south so fast. Even if it be to their extent or Grace and the dad splitting.
Yeah but you dident use the past trauma to make yourself feel better did you?
I don’t like the kids at all it’s not the farthers fault that he falled in love with her and they were old enough to know that
i feel so bad for grace, she was genuinely trying
Same but I also hate her bc why did she have to get involved w a married man??
@@TeamGenetrix did the movie specify that she knew that he was married? cuz i can't remember that moment.
@@nadia-up3ky yes it did, they were finalizing the divorce the day the mom killed herself, so him and grace were cheaters
@@spongegar7588 It seems like they were already separated so they already knew they were getting a divorce. Seems like the dad already moved on and the only reason they hadn't fully divorced was because the mom still thought she could put it back together.
@@spongegar7588 no, it didn't. There's no backstory or information that points to either of them cheating.
The cult from Grace's past was based on Heaven's Gate, a cult, where 39 members also committed mass suicide in a communal house with shrouds covering their bodies.
Dude I see you everywhere.
I knew I heard something similar to this somewhere.
Interesting fact bro, and long time no see
ain’t that lil uzi’s “cult”
@Antonio Miraval They had to die to go to the spaceship that was the comet Hale-Bopp.
They gas lit tf out of her
Wonder if the gas lamp was a hint at that.
I just thought of something when the kids assured is safe to keep the gas heater in such indoor place. It's mostly a very risky move. But, they have been using it on the attic therefore before all pandemonium, foreshadowing the fact since the energy went out, they had a source of warmth in the cold attic. And Laura left the door open on purpose at night to give Grace the opportunity of hypothermia. And then the dog escaped.
😂
i feel so bad for grace especially with what happened to her dog. that dog was symbolic of her finally gaining control of her life and those assholes killed it and killed off the little light in grace with it.
I hate dogs so that was pretty satisfying to watch
@@alejandraguzman7709 get help
@@panonymousbloom5405 it's a troll. I don't like dogs. But I wouldn't wish death upon someone's pet .
@@alejandraguzman7709 pray for yourself
@@emmbee7147 lmfaoooo
If I woke up to someone staring at me with a gun in their hand, I think I'd end the "joke" right then and there.
Yeah then she smacked the little girl. And they just kept pushing her
Or be smart enough to hide the gun-box in the first place....
It's interesting how, even though the lady killed the kids and the father, she is easily the most likable character. The father is dating her as a pet project, probably did the same with the kids mom. The kids were unbelievably messed up shitlords who thought it'd be funny to take medication away from a woman who literally depends on it, just cause she fell in love with their father. The ex-cult girl literally did nothing wrong in all honesty, it's not her fault that she was raised in a cult, hell, she saw hundreds of dead bodies at a super young age, she was deeply affected by that alone. Kids are stupid, dad is a bad person, the lady is just tryna be a good person till she snaps.
Ngl you can’t blame Grace for going insane because of the kids’ prank. Hell, even I believed it and got freaked out by it, and I was just watching it in a movie!
I think it’s ironic how the kids said “they did it for their mother” and ended up losing their dad too lol
I've heard a lot of people compare this movie to Hereditary (and often say "it's not as scary as Hereditary"), and while I think some of the comparisons are kind of warranted, The Lodge left me with a deeper sense of complete tragedy than Hereditary did. Hereditary was terrifying and bleak and deeply disturbing, but this movie is the very definition of tragedy: everything that happens could have been avoided, but the characters curse themselves at every turn. When it was over I just felt bereft. Great summary and explanation as always, FoundFlix!
100% agree!
I completely agree with you Sally. This was far more tragic of a story to me.
Agreed!! Hereditary is still my favorite movie but the feeling i had after leaving the theater seeing this was something so different and just heavy
yeah, they both sucked
Its because they are both about cults and a lot of settings are set in the dark. They both have some kind of a warm tone brown black setting in the movie
Is a horror move
Me: Sees dog
Oh no
I thought the same.
I refuse to imagine the dog died.
No it is fine
It is fine
Fine...
That kid dying would not really make me that disturbed since she was the reason the dog died. Little shit.
@@animuchan6136 It looks like she killed the dog on purpose pretty much.
Seriously, I knew nothing was good coming from that. THEN WHEN I SAW WHAT HAPPENED OMG. My dog looks similar to him, white and cuddly, I went to hug my dog.
Why does everyone think the dad was a psychologist? At the beginning of the movie, the kids ask about Grace being apart of their dad’s book. He was a writer and met her while researching cults. Also, I’m pretty positive he didn’t know she was medicated. There is a scene in the lodge where he enters their room while Grace is taking her pills and she hides them behind her back without him noticing. She was never his patient. Don’t know how that idea came about. Anyway, the kids were little sociopaths that shouldn’t of touched her medication in the first place. I felt no sympathy for them in the end.
Good point
To be honest, I haaaaated everyone in this movie, except Grace. She went through hell and then once she started to heal, everyone sends her right back. Imo, Grace isn't the villain at all.
me too i fucking hated it i didnt think it was good at all lmfao
Asha Brooke it was good. Really good. To be able to make you feel awful for the character that ended up murdering the only innocent character?? They did a good job making the protagonist look like the antagonist and you still hope for her survival.
@@pbower4378 I agree with Asha too a point, but I also agree with yours as well. I just hope that in the future if they do decide to go on with a sequel of some sort and Grace makes a re-appearance that they don't make her out to be the villain. Maybe at first, but later on she snaps out of it and the ends up saving the children at some point showing them that she was a good person in the end and realize how fucked up they both are or something.
T h i s ! ! !
lol, i would never treat a woman who steal someone's family or rob kids's happy childhood with mom and dad, as an innocent angel.
This is what happened when you mess with people’s medications
Fan of Brandon Rogers I see good for you brother
Exactly...So dont touch my Vitamin C tablets if you know whats good for you
Someone takes my iron:
Me: 😐😑😴😴
Tangeni Shikukutu Can we have your Flinstone’s Gummies though?
No this is what happens when a father leaves his kids with a women who is fucking bad shit crazy
Rip Grady. You didnt deserve that.
I have never hated two kids more than this. I also lost my dad and have a stepfather I'm not too fond of, but if I found out he was a suicide cult survivor I wouldn't gaslight him back into insanity. Not because I would be scared of him hurting me, but because I have fucking decency. Grief is a reason, but not an excuse.
Grace really tried, the kids just were just unconscionably mean toward her.
It was DEFINITELY conscious
Yes, it was definitely “unconsciously”
Honestly it was the fathers fault. The children where deeply disturbed by the mothers suicide and that's very evident, he pushed the girlfriend on them (children)with no training wheels so to speak and then left them alone. The children where assholes and understood what they where doing to a point but if the father was able to rehabilitate his girlfriend he should've seen signs in his children..
Nat Lang that’s what I am saying a couple punches would fix that acctitude immediately, but you can’t blame the father he just wanted there kids to know there stepmother those kids were not assholes, they were to psychopaths that not only didn’t care for her they literally showed not empathy until they saw there lives were are risk now I don’t know about you but that clearly the work of someone who has clearly no regard for the other well-being
Worst movie ever made 2020
I was so frustrated, the kids lied to a woman with ptsd and got everyone killed. They straight up LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING to Grace. Heartbreaking.
Maybe she shouldn’t have hid the doll that represented their mom
@@toptiertech7291 that doesn’t warrant their treatment of her?? “She hid my mommy doll, let’s make her relive her trauma, take away her meds, and kill her dog”
@@danalang9953 no. Not “she hid my mommy doll”. She hid the doll that was made to look like the girls dead mother. They already blamed her for their mothers death. So that’s 2 instances of her getting rid of their mom
@@toptiertech7291wtf even is your point
@@toptiertech7291 a bit late here but the kids were already planning the “prank” on grace before they left to go to the lodge.
Laura: curling eyelashes
FoundFlix: "She's still busy pRiMPIng her eYEbRowS"
Lmao 😂
I was looking for someone that noticed too 😂😂
@@breenabee I noticed and let it slide cuz it was wholesome af.
"the poor kids now terrified of Grace"
I think those brats are a lot of things, but not poor
what is wrong with you?
Yep, they deserved the trauma.
Those horrible little shits
Yes grieving children who made a terrible mistake by not understanding the seriousness of mental health (not to mention they feel this woman is responsable for the death of their mother) deserve to be traumatized, sure
@@annesilva3542 they killed her dog this isn’t some kind of “reaction to mental health” they’re just brats and deserve death stop throwing a tantrum
Oh I thought the twist was going to be that she was hallucinating/dying the whole time due to the heater releasing carbon monoxide into a trapped space, since it was faulty and hissing. Whoop.
That would be a good twist in a movie
Me too! I thought the whole movie would be like her struggling to wake up in the dream state before they all suffocated to death or something
@@channawijetunga4089 right like damn it was all the kids fault damn
I actually really like that they decided to flip the assumption on its head and do a opposite of the sixth sense trope with it turning out the whole movie was just a big PSA as to why tormenting people with their past trauma is a horrible and sadistic idea that can harm a lot of people even those not involved, without going overboard and breaking away from its core story and characters
s b I agree
The real villain is the dad. He knew how traumatized and hurt his kids were and also knew his girlfriend was mentally unstable and traumatized. He knew that the kids blamed the girlfriend for their mom taking her own life. We gotta remember theyre kids - that said they aren’t going to understand things as an adult would. That said, neither the kids or Grace were in the right mental state to be left ALONE in a lodge in the middle of nowhere.
Actually, the argument of "they're kids" doesn't hold up since children can learn right from wrong at the age of five and onwards, and can understand concepts such as death, torture, and abuse, and the implications of what they entail. While the father shouldn't have left all three together, it's ultimately the fault of the children for going through with their premeditated attempt at causing their step mother to commit suicide.
One of the reasons why we shouldn't underestimate how much children do understand about the seriousness of their actions, is because it does lead to real world nightmares. Such as the Jamie Bulger Killers who at the age of ten, premeditated a kidnapping of a two year old, and then proceeded to sexually torture and finally murder them, only being caught because their attempts at hiding their wrong doings by dumping the body on a train track lead to an investigation. They revealed in later interviews that they fully understood what they did and why they did so, even if one of them was utterly unrepentant of their actions.
@@insertname7325 Sure but if you look back on things you did when you were younger I’m sure there’s something you can say “yeah that probably wasn’t the best idea”. Our judgment as children isn’t the best. we often did things and didn’t understand the severity of certain choices.
@@patricecorner4877 No not really? I never stole, I never bullied anyone, I never did anything that I would ever change if I had the chance to, I never decided to mentally torture someone out of a misguided want for revenge. I didn't need to understand the consequences for things that I could go "this is wrong", that was enough to simply know without context.
@@insertname7325 You’re forgetting the fact that these kids are angry that their mom is dead. Instead of grieving and just being said, they are bitter. They seem to take their anger out on the girlfriend by pranking her. Of course it backfired. Good to hear you were a perfect child though!
They knew enough to understand that her cult background meant that religious iconography would cause her mental anguish.
They literally gaslighted a cult survivor with SEVERE ptsd
LiTeRaLLy
We are literally ruining the definition of the word "literally".
@@dhruvtukadiya I think, by definition, it can also mean "figuratively" now
i mean their mother killed herself only 6 months earlier. and they are being forced to stay with basically her replacement. that’s not an ideal situation for anyone
@@GroovydawgJ dads fault tbh.
Honestly this movie is just really sad when thinking about it from Grace’s perspective. Everyone in the family sucked and honestly I find it hard to have sympathy for the kids knowing they knew what they were doing.
“Literally nothing but snow surrounding it!”
Trees: “Am I a joke to you?”
I wood say so.
Yes
The only person who I feel even remotely sorry for is the girlfriend. She almost had her life back together.
@No, says possum I mean their mom just died 6 months prior in the movie seems a little fast lmao and they were planning on getting married
@@HarrisHarris785 The mom and dad were separated prior.
@@LangsMesser lol still kids they don’t take change well especially in this situation seems pretty obvious but I guess not
Uh I feel bad for the father imagine trying to file a devorce and having the lady blow her brains out and start this mess, and if those two bastards were her kids they must have inherited the crazy from her cus that dad seems pretty sane to me. They had already been separated for while and he was just trying to finalize it.
@@HarrisHarris785 idc. You dont do that to someone
The moral of this film was, “know when to end the joke”
Do or do not, there is no try.
someone from comment, play stupid game win stupid prizes...
I like that this movie has basically no "good guys". And the "bad guy" is the most sympathetic.
Yes. There is no one in this movie you truly can root for... which are the ones who makes you think...
I don't know how anyone can call this movie bleak. Its not bleak its a tragedy, a literal shakespearean tragedy, and god its so satisfying to see everyone get exactly what they wrought.
Sounds like a born again reference when the mirror said repent, typical cult like ‘ if you don’t repent you will go to hell ‘, typical born again bullshit, usually hyped up by people who have lots of drugs in the past then suddenly want to tell everyone they are born again, idiots.
Yes, I’d call it a Shakespearean tragedy too
I don’t even watch movies anymore I just watch ending explained videos
I tried to watch the one about the cult with the new police woman (Last Shift I think) but it wasn't on netflix.
Kyle Nielsen yeah I think you can buy or rent that one on RUclips. I usually watch the movies he review if they’re on Netflix.
Can't say I feel too bad for the kids. What did they think would happen when they did this to a woman recovering from a cult?
well she is kinda the reason there mom killed themselves so can't blame them too bad.
Rag Bang No. The mom is obviously mentally unwell to begin with. A healthy person does not kill themselves over a divorce. They are sad and grow to move on. The dad is the one that seems to have a thing for mentally ill women.
Rag Bang it her fault ? She committed suicide
Why are people blaming the kids? Guys they are KIDS. No one could have predicted she would fucking cult like kill them. I feel horrible for the kids
Criss Lambert if they didn’t fuck with someone who they know is mentally unstable, they wouldn’t have been in the situation they put themselves in
The kids could’ve just continued to avoid her for the rest of the trip. Instead they psychologically tortured her. 😒
please cover “the others” i feel like it hasn’t gotten much attention on here. It’s such a good movie
I really enjoy that movie
Because The Others is a English version of a Spanish gothic tale, it's the 1st film that is English spoken to ever win a Goya Award. In fact the film has 7 Goya Awards (Spain's national film awards). It's won 3 Saturn Awards. It was also nominated for 1 Golden Globe award and 2 BAFTA awards. It also grossed over $200 million at the box office on a $17 million budget. A remake is already in the works. But yeah, "it hasn't gotten much attention".
Yea the twist was so good
Lookslikeanass maybe she was too young when it came out
@@JesusWillSaveYou OP said it hasn't gotten much attention "on here," and if we take that phrase to mean "on RUclips," it hasn't. Despite all of those accolades, a quick search for reviews of that highly acclaimed movie shows that no review has received more than 100K views. In fact, the only videos about The Others that did receive more than 100K views are clips and trailers.
Child actors have gotten better, but none will EVER compare to the Onion's
The raisins? You know, those musicians raisins with sunglasses.
Xande no XD. He’s talking about the Joke News called “The Onion”. Unless I just got r/wooosh ed
The child actor in Babadook would like a word. That scene of him in the car elicited so much hatred I was like, wow, this kid is amazingly talented. Not to mention the seizure right after is chilling.
it's just a prank bro: the movie
Hahhahahaha good one lmao
I’m just trying to figure out was they were thinking when they said: let’s prank a mass suicide cult survivor😃. And the worst thing is that they took her meds honestly idk what they were expecting in the end
LITERALLYYY like bruh😀
exactly. their end point was for her to go insane, but did they really think that wasn’t going to leave them with consequences..like what did they expect to happen for them the moment she completely lost it especially knowing her past. they should’ve stopped it the moment she asked them if it was a prank.
@@daylenolivia6577 Plus, they went out of their way to buy that harness and other stuff., never thinking at any point that what they were doing was going to be too much.
Plus, there's literally nowhere to go after driving her insane... with a gun. What would they have done then?
They wanted her to confess to the murders she commited when she was apart of the cult
@@jadecleveland865 they wanted her to go full schizo so the dad leaves her. That’s literally what they were going for
this movie has been on my watchlist foreverrrr , but i was scared that it wasn’t gonna be good, glad i was wrong
i thought it was bad. Movie falls apart once you start thinking about it.
It gets boring honestly.
Anna, i found the movie very boring 'n not scary at all.
Do yourself a favor and just don’t watch it
Not scary. And boring
mate you uploading so frequently is ruining my study schedule quit making such well made and entertaining videos
"You reap what you sow" these little demons ended up playing with fire
"I didn't think the leopards would eat my face," says children who gaslit the leopard with a history of eating faces.
I feel bad for grace she was realy trying with these kids and move past her trauma and these kids and there dumb father ended up sending her back into a dark space.
Between him and let me explain I've spoiled countless movies for myself 😂
ikr!
Don't forget CZsWorld 💪🏿
Ever hear of the spoiler paradox? Apparently knowing how a movie is going to end actually makes you enjoy it more. So get out there and start enjoying some spoiled movies! :)
TJ Collins I often use them to judge whether to watch these randoms or watch the summary!
So karma hu
Am I the only one who enjoyed seeing the kids learning the consequences?
"Just a prank, bro!" This is the perfect answer to that stupid trend.
Just a prank bro! Bro just a prank!
Also, every time she passed out on the floor it was the kids giving her the sleeping pills.
Most probably 🤷🏼
Or, maybe, her psyche was beginning to crack and she was sleepwalking or passing into fugue states?? 🤷🏼
A side note to speculate on is that "Aiden" has roots in Latin, meaning "Firestarter" perhaps a choice by the writer as Aiden is the one who decides to break their new maternal figure into a relapse in personalities. Grace is metaphorically ignited by Aiden, with her use of fire to mutilate herself, burn the doll, and eventually kill the kids father.
The Kids: it was just a prank!
Grace: "Only in the end do you understand"
*Turns on ROTJ*
Something is wrong with the father, who leaves their children with a ex cult member for fiance. Everything was set in stone because of his fetishes
@Troll uNeed the father should've got them help and had common sense to not leave his gf alone with grieving kids that think they're mom is being replaced. The parent is responsible for the child actions. You cant blame the kids since they're grieving still and since they cant think clearly.
@Troll uNeed it's the fathers fault.
@Troll uNeed you're blaming the dead mom lol
@ewok king I'm not blaming her but the husband was basically experimenting with someone who grew up in such a dangerous and traumatic lifestyle with his dysfunctional psychopathic children tormenting her.
@@Barbatos666 the kids atleast get some of the blame, I mean they fucking killed a dog, hid meds, drugged grace and did other things aswell.
The mother's suicide scene...man, i was speachless and couldn't react full several minutes after seeing that. Masterfully done scene.
This is the earliest I've ever been to one of his posts. Love your videos.
At the end The Lodge felt like it intended to be the most fucked up cautionary tale ever made.
That final scene was BRUTAL, but I found it extremely cathartic (in the darkest way possible).
The ending in this was kinda unexpected usually the person races to get to the situation and saves everyone, But the dad arrived only to get shot and then everyone dies
And the twist was good also. I didn’t know it was the kids doing until the movie made it obvious. I’m also not one of those guys who tries to guess the twist the whole movie to seem smart. Flix never gives a twist credit, ever.
J M I mean... when you’ve seen every kind of twist there is and have a good sense of it then it becomes obvious. So I don’t blame him for not giving credit for twist endings. The only twist I’ve ever seen that I didn’t see coming was The Mist, it’s so tragic and gut wrenching.
@@josh.y When the brother is very hostile in one scene, and giving her a mug of coffee or whatever in the next scene, it seemed obvious they were drugging her, the little girl warming up to her however was believable, and was a shock when she was in on the scheme too
It was also kinda stupid that the dad didnt ask the kids to contact the ONLY adult in the house when it turns out the kids were in contact with him the whole time atleast at the beginning part when they were snowed in
There were so many twists in this movie👍
this one legitimately made me have a break down just because i have such an awful time watching characters who are trying their best despite the circumstances theyre in get everything ruined for them INTENTIONALLY by other people. like grace was on her way to rehabilitation and genuinely trying with these kids and they ruined her entire life and psyche. im so incredibly heartbroken for her.
I've given up on actually attending my online classes, because watching new FoundFlix videos are far more important
The Lodge: *PRANK GONE WRONG GONE SEXUAL*
i dont get ppl who defend the kids on the movie, like they legit hid medicine. bruh, you can hide food and stuff, but medicine? smh.
Oh don’t forget the dog bro! I get that they are clearly very traumatised children but you gotta draw the line somewhere…. They literally researched about her and knew how tough she had it, and then planned the whole thing… They completely knew about her background in cult and then came up with that whole purgatory thing… Literally targeted to fuck her up….
Now I’m no mental expert but you can’t chalk this psychopathic behaviour to just “grief” and “being children”….
Probably because you can't relate to killing a childhood dog... that's meant to be a compliment 😁
They killed the doggo T^T.
Probably one of the few horror movies I ever rooted for the kids to die in.
Thanks found flix, I literally watched this last night and didn’t understand that much
Dude same
lol you two must be dumb blondes
congratulations kids, you played yourself.
Precisely. I felt sorry for the kids at the beginning when their mom died, but their pain didn't give them the right to hurt Grace like that. In the final scene I thought to myself; "Children, this is harsh, but you brought it upon yourselves!"
It definitely seems that the kids were sociopaths trying to indirectly kill Grace. I mean, she literally journeyed out into a frozen wasteland where she could freeze to death to get help for them, and instead of revealing that everything was fake and they could call for help, they made a weak attempt to stop her and then continued to gaslight her even worse when she came back. I can understand hating her and blaming her for their mom's death since they're mourning kids, but they knew that she could have died trying to help them and they still decided that she needed to suffer more and ended up paying the ultimate price for their actions.
"The poor kids"?
I'm sorry, the little a-holes knew she had trauma and weaponized it to make her crack.
This movie feels like the feature length meaning of "THEY HAD IT COMIN'".
I saw this movie in theaters earlier this year, and it stayed with me for days afterwards. Fantastic movie.
I only got to see it a home, it was so well done👍
When I saw the ending I was just like “I wonder who went first?”
Definitely the little girl.
Brandon Lentz the boy was REALLY gaslighting her half the movie tho.
Exactly girl first , quick. Boy maybe she has sum lil cult speech to give him before she do what she do but yeah in my opinion girl first then the boy lol
@will edwards *wait what?*
“Primping her eyebrows” LOL! You really are a guy. She was curling her lashes.
thanks for the clarification, justine
Did you just assume his gender?
xd You’re welcome. Thanks for the laugh.
@@xd-ko9oo are you from the 50s?
And you really are a girl....
Coming back and looking at this again I have so much anger for the father. It's pretty clear that Grace was his patient and it seems likely that his ex-wife was ALSO a patient. The guy was skeevey and targeted unstable women. And beyond that he got these kids zero therapy after their mother's death. In the very least he should have lost his freaking license.
Dad was a witch and his kids the daughter was very powerful and his from dad her powers now surpassed dads
...I have no sympathy for that family.
Sure, those kids lost their mom and still weren't able to move on. But that doesn't excuse what they did to Grace.
The father is no better. My question is if Grace was his patient. If so, then someone must've lost his license from ever practicing psychology. ¬¬
I agree with you the kids took it too far so evil kids God forbid to actually come across this kind of people. their Mother killed her self, Grace had nothing to do with it. There was no point on leaving them stranded on a remote place without even a car or actual emergency equipment or cameras for a safety check. When you leaving a deer with fox yes these kids are cunning fox. They just paid for what they did.
That same kid played in defending Jacob he was weirdest in that show too
@@pety6648 He plays a great emotionally complicated kid. He's the kid from the IT movies, also Book of Henry and Knives Out, etc.
What did the father do I know this video is old but like she sold no signs of mental disability he did not know about her taking meds also there was a time skip so you can't say he just pushed it onto them after their mother died and what you just get a married woman and not tell your kids no you when your kids to get to know the woman that's going to be their mother isn't their fault for being vindictive and evil and then they say it's a prank also it's not her fault her father was a cult leader you didn't even see her partake in the suicide which means she wasn't crazy what she had was a father that pushed to the ideals onto her and made her have trauma that's what the medication was to prevent trauma those kids board about that trauma
@@saleeksmith4765 I think she just appeared vulnerable. Also the kids found videos of her, so I'm not sure if the father knew her or met her and fell in love because of the research into the cult. I believe the fiancé had PTSD from the cult murders, she didn't take part but she walked around and video everyone dead in their bed. Which is kind of odd behavior. I think the PTSD and the trauma was resurfaced by the children - who were also grieving due to their mother's suicide. It was definitely just a mess and everyone needed mental health help. The father was behaving like everything was normal and he could put his family back together in an instant and replan the mother. That was not going to happen. Very good movie with different ideals and views
Thank you for posting so I don’t have to pay money and spend time watching these movies🙏
Init some how I dont mind getting it spoiled, as it's done so perfectly and better than how the movie can on it's own.