Choosing between a 4-cylinder and a 6-cylinder Porsche is a very 1st world problem. Neither one is bad. The distinctions are shades of excellence. Some people would be willing to forgo the experience of a 6-cylinder engine, but prefer the experience of a new Porsche. Some people with the same budget will forgo the new-Porsche experience in order to be able to afford a 6-cylinder. Neither is a bad choice, and both add to the Porsche community. The world is a better place for the choice!
Owning a Porsche period is a first world problem. People buy them and not econo-boxes because they want an experience. I understand why people would have reservations about paying north of $60,000 for a turbo 4-cylinder.
Not to mention the $15k dealers want to tack on to MSRP for a GTS, and GT4 are even crazier ADM. No thanks, at that price step up into a 911, even if it’s a base model with a few performance options, I’d take that over an overpriced Cayman.
John it depends where you gonna to drive it. 6 cylinder is the best for circuit ( very long second gear) 4 cylinder daily street car , torque at any rews:)
Mr Luetjen could not have put that better myself. Loads of rubbish spoken about the flat 4, personally love the subaru growl with added essence of porsche
Have a 911 and 718 and totally agree. This car is more fun to drive and plenty quick. Did not put too much on my 718 when I ordered, but it doesn’t need it. This maintains the Porsche sports car experience in its truest form.
I'm 70+ and I have a 718 Cayman s, bought new in 2017. It's driven just like a daily driver (summer only): 1) Comfortable; 2) No mechanical issues; 3) Spacious; 4) Economy (premium only). However, I change oil every 6 months, with 5k or with 100 miles it doesn't matter. However it's Guard Red, it-stick-out like a sore thumb.
1) comfortable?, 🤣, what did you have before that, a tractor? 3) spacious?, 😂. Spacious!, where have you been? Even a model T has more space than a Cayman. 4) economy? Compared to what? As for mechanical issues you obviously don’t drive it much. Any number of modern hot hatches and coupes will be much more civilised to live with, much better suspension, way better economically, more reliable and at least just as fast if not faster. It’s about time got into the modern world, sport chrono package 🤣😂🤣
@@Encourageable I like the look of them but really they’re awful. I couldn’t recline the seat to get comfortable, I didn’t like the engine right behind my head making a horrible noise and I didn’t like the over size wheels and their clumpy ride. Considering the speed limit on A - B roads is 60 I can’t see the point. I could go and buy a fully specc’d one new if I wanted, very fashioned their saving grace is the stationary looks.
Totally agree with the video. I own a sport chrono 718S and a 911 but have also driven a base 718. While the variable vane turbocharger on the S has clear advantages over the base 718, the base is certainly a very capable, beautiful and respectable sports car that will immediately bring an enduring smile to the driver. Any 718 has a lightness about it that provides an arguably better driving experience in the corners that the 911 cannot match. The sport chrono and PASM options described in the video are worth getting for sure.
@@dre32pitt The funny thing is outside of the gt3s regular Porsche 6s don't sound particularly exotic or amazing If you want to talk about good sounding 6 cylinders try the E46 M3 or NSX Type R
@@ArtVandelayOfficial I disagree. My 987.1 Cayman S sounded amazing above 5.5k. The newer non-gt3 cars dont sound 'good' because they're turbo'd. Turbos will almost always kill sound volume (traditional intake/exhaust noises). But I agree on your comparisons. All 3 (Honda, M Car, P Car) all have dual cam profiles, so they're all going to sound great above 65-70% of their total RPM capacity (the vaunted, 'VTEC kicked in', lol). Ironically, Nissan was first to use this in a production car, iirc. My father's 93 Nissan Sentra SE-R with the SR20DE (no T since it wasn't turbo.. that motor was never an option in North America) and had VTEC before Honda had it in North America. Now look at Nissan......
We have a 2022 base model Boxster with a manual transmission, the same wheels and the 18 way seats (no PASM or Sport Chrono). It is a great car with plenty of power. We love driving it. We also have 2 991s, and I think I like the Boxster the most.
Great review! I have a 2021 Boxster T and have done 10K miles on it and have had no issues. Excellent daily and really fun on the canyons! This Cayman is spec'd to be T - excellent!
We’ve owned a 2017 Cayman S (Miami Blue) for the past 4 years. We bought it used and it was spec’d with PASM, Torque Vectoring, PDK and Sport Chrono. I really wish that Sport+ (not Sport) mode was reviewed, because the Turbos are kept spooled up and all of the turbo lag goes away. I like the sound a lot, especially when its full throttle or the boost button is pushed. I understand the Subaru comparison, but club members seem to forget that Porsches started as flat fours. As much as we love our car, we quit taking it to club events as older PCA members are not shy about telling you how “you should have” spent your money.
Great video Damon. Good to see some 718 love. 😃 I have been pleasantly surprised by the performance of my 2022 Cayman S. Plenty of power for the street with fantastic handling. Interesting comments in the build quality on newer Porsches. My previous car was a 2018 Audi TTRS and I thought its build quality was special. My Cayman is exponentially better.
@@PorscheClubofAmerica Mazda is the homeless man's version (think 'Poorman's version', but poorer, lol), imo.. Every single Mazda I've ever driven felt good to drive. Like it was engineered by people who enjoy driving. Mazda 3, Mazda 2, Mx5, Mazda 6, hell, even the CX5 drives good for a car, not just an SUV. - Former 987.1 Cayman S owner and current ND Miata owner
I own and love 2 cars. One is a amg c63 with 700plus nm, the other is one of these. I love driving them both for very different reasons. The big difference is the nimbleness of my 718. Its just so light on its feet, the way it changes direction, stops and pulls out of corners is exhilarating. My amg wins in many other areas but it cant match the 718 for this.
Agreed. That’s why I got one. I didn’t want to live in 2nd gear. Mine is the base engine with full leather, PASM, PTV, Sports Chrono, PDLS+, Bose sound, sports seat + with embossed logo, carbon fiber, sports pipes, racetex headliner, manual box with carbon fiber gear stick. I love it. I can actually use the performance on the street.
@@final_mile_music9713 I was looking at base 718s too.. Have you owned a Porsche before? I ended up in an older Cayman S and can't imagine having one without the flat 6 wail above 5k..
@@dre32pitt I have a loaded base. PTV. Sports Chrono. PDLS+. Sports seats +. PASM. Bose. Full leather. Embossed seats. Carbon fiber trim including gear knob. Racetex t headliner. GT steering wheel (no buttons except the drive mode rotary knob). Sports pipes. It’s amazing. Tons of torque. Revs out nicely. Characterful engine note. Not tuneful as such but kinda old school Porsche to me. I5s my first Porsche but I’ve driven a couple of generations of 911’s on the track and skid pans and my Dad owned a 1984 911 Carerra (pre turbo) that I drove. Personally, I’d have a loaded base over an S with no performance options. I’m not interested in HP bragging rights. I’m interested in driving. All the investment in my car is in dynamics and a nice interior. I have the regular wheels (because our roads are rough) and a standard color (black. My interior is red leather but with the black dash with red stitching). The car rides and handles like a dream and is deceptively quick in a way that the reported 0-60 figure doesn’t show.
@@final_mile_music9713 I was going to go basic basic, lol.. no options.. just the manual.. But I can't not have the flat 6 noise now.. im tainted, lol..
I got the 2022 Cayman GTS for the included items as mention on this base model. Kept my spec low for the reason of this being a sports car and didn’t focus on luxury add ones. I only optioned black brake calipers, black aluminum trim, black Porsche logo, and new for 2022 shark blue seat belts. $90430 I thought was a good price considering the times and being purchased in Northern California.
I have a base Cayman. So base I don’t have vanity mirror lights, just cheap VW plastic. I really wish I had the safety features, LED headlights and keyless go. I pulled the soundaktor fuse and the fake Subaru rumble disappeared.
It’s not turbo lag. It’s the boost threshold. The turbos spool almost instantly. They just do so over 2500rpm, which with a manual box is a non-issue. I’m always in the sweet spot. There is no lag driving like this. It goes like stink.
You are correct. There is not much turbo lag (there is a tiny bit, even in the sweet spot) but there is little power below the boost threshold. Unfortunately turbo lag has been used to describe boost threshold for so many years that boost threshold doesn't mean much to most people... We'll try our best to use the correct term in future videos.
I have a 2017 cayman base model with PDK bought in 2019. It’s driven from May through November. A definite daily driver. As a launch model, it had so many options put on it. About a 70k build sheet.
I live in NJ. The thought of drilling holes in the front of that beautiful car to mount a required front plate is.......criminal. And yes....its a $100 fine without. Anyone found a good mounting solution for front plate other than...moving?
@@darrylgarcia9147 hmm interesting I always thought the rectangular pipe didn’t have pse. Planning on getting a 718? I’ve been interested lately knowing the next cayman is gna be full electric…. Makes the flat 4 turbo more appealing lol
Great review! I recently purchased a 2023 718T. It includes PASM. Limited slip. Gt4 short shift. Lowered. Not sure why this owner would option out all that in a base 718 when Porsche offers all of those options in the T package. Love my car. Love all of your drives! Thanks!
Would never call a 718 bad, it's got it where is counts, but I much prefer the 6-cylinder Caymans. Prices easily north of $60-70,000 for a 4-cylinder is asking a lot.
I guess for a short 1-mile drive, you can only guess and not actually experience the car in many aspects, such as highway driving. Why not give the review more credibility with something like a 10-mile drive?
Not sure you're understanding the concept. They're not trying to get the full driving experience, just what you'd get after driving a car for a mile (or so). Like if a friend just got a new car and let you try it out... first impression only.
I took a 718 Cayman for a test drive and couldn’t believe how rough it sounded, noisy, unrefined, not pleasant and right behind your ears. The ride was old fashioned and reminded me of Ford saloons of the 1970’s. It wasn’t that fast, many hot hatches today can keep up ride better and handle at half the price with better options and equipment. The trend of 19 and 20 inch wheels is another indication that the car is a horror on the road and built primarily for looks. Very old fashioned not in a good way, and not suitable for touring around Europe, not suitable for anything other than looking good in the car park.
@@d.nakamura9579 that’s exactly my point Mr Nakamura, where exactly would you drive one of these rough sounding, rough handling, heavy and noisy cars in order to be satisfied that you’ve ‘driven it properly’? Not public roads that’s for sure! Any car with 19, 20, 22 inch wheels is a poser built for looks and not purpose including these Porsches.
@@BobK5 What alternative to a Porsche Base Cayman would you recommend? I own one of the alternatives that you may be talking about, but I'd like to know what other cars you think are available that ride better and handle at half the price with better options and equipment.
Agreed. I test drove one with PASM before buying one without as I couldn't notice any discernible difference? Unless you're going to be flying around Racetracks on Track Days PASM isn't needed for everyday driving.
Need is relative. I do notice a discernible difference when use PASM in my 718. This is especially true the in the twisties when I am pushing the edge. I understand that it is not necessary, but it is certainly a nice to have!
Choosing between a 4-cylinder and a 6-cylinder Porsche is a very 1st world problem. Neither one is bad. The distinctions are shades of excellence. Some people would be willing to forgo the experience of a 6-cylinder engine, but prefer the experience of a new Porsche. Some people with the same budget will forgo the new-Porsche experience in order to be able to afford a 6-cylinder. Neither is a bad choice, and both add to the Porsche community. The world is a better place for the choice!
Owning a Porsche period is a first world problem. People buy them and not econo-boxes because they want an experience. I understand why people would have reservations about paying north of $60,000 for a turbo 4-cylinder.
@@_ArsNova So worth another $40K to get a NA 6-cylinder...steep price to say you have a F6 instead of a F4.
Not to mention the $15k dealers want to tack on to MSRP for a GTS, and GT4 are even crazier ADM. No thanks, at that price step up into a 911, even if it’s a base model with a few performance options, I’d take that over an overpriced Cayman.
John it depends where you gonna to drive it. 6 cylinder is the best for circuit ( very long second gear) 4 cylinder daily street car , torque at any rews:)
Mr Luetjen could not have put that better myself. Loads of rubbish spoken about the flat 4, personally love the subaru growl with added essence of porsche
I think base cars are under-rated and underappreciated. Nice review. 1-mile reviews miss a very important rating category, "fun factor".
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I'm daily driving a 2022 718 Cayman GTS 4.0
Puts a smile on my face every time I start her.
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You legend! Awesome car.
Have a 911 and 718 and totally agree. This car is more fun to drive and plenty quick. Did not put too much on my 718 when I ordered, but it doesn’t need it. This maintains the Porsche sports car experience in its truest form.
May I know what was your specs and how much did it costs you?
full leather interior is a must otherwise interior feels like in a VW Polo.
I'm 70+ and I have a 718 Cayman s, bought new in 2017. It's driven just like a daily driver (summer only): 1) Comfortable; 2) No mechanical issues; 3) Spacious; 4) Economy (premium only). However, I change oil every 6 months, with 5k or with 100 miles it doesn't matter. However it's Guard Red, it-stick-out like a sore thumb.
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1) comfortable?, 🤣, what did you have before that, a tractor?
3) spacious?, 😂. Spacious!, where have you been? Even a model T has more space than a Cayman.
4) economy? Compared to what?
As for mechanical issues you obviously don’t drive it much. Any number of modern hot hatches and coupes will be much more civilised to live with, much better suspension, way better economically, more reliable and at least just as fast if not faster.
It’s about time got into the modern world, sport chrono package 🤣😂🤣
@@BobK5sorry you can’t afford a base Cayman LOL.
@@Encourageable I like the look of them but really they’re awful. I couldn’t recline the seat to get comfortable, I didn’t like the engine right behind my head making a horrible noise and I didn’t like the over size wheels and their clumpy ride.
Considering the speed limit on A - B roads is 60 I can’t see the point. I could go and buy a fully specc’d one new if I wanted, very fashioned their saving grace is the stationary looks.
Totally agree with the video. I own a sport chrono 718S and a 911 but have also driven a base 718. While the variable vane turbocharger on the S has clear advantages over the base 718, the base is certainly a very capable, beautiful and respectable sports car that will immediately bring an enduring smile to the driver. Any 718 has a lightness about it that provides an arguably better driving experience in the corners that the 911 cannot match. The sport chrono and PASM options described in the video are worth getting for sure.
At least he made it past the three minute mark before mentioning Subaru.
haha, that's the big killer for a lot of buyers.. if you've owned a flat6 P-car, hard to settle for anything less in the noise department.
@@dre32pitt The funny thing is outside of the gt3s regular Porsche 6s don't sound particularly exotic or amazing
If you want to talk about good sounding 6 cylinders try the E46 M3 or NSX Type R
@@ArtVandelayOfficial I disagree. My 987.1 Cayman S sounded amazing above 5.5k. The newer non-gt3 cars dont sound 'good' because they're turbo'd. Turbos will almost always kill sound volume (traditional intake/exhaust noises).
But I agree on your comparisons. All 3 (Honda, M Car, P Car) all have dual cam profiles, so they're all going to sound great above 65-70% of their total RPM capacity (the vaunted, 'VTEC kicked in', lol).
Ironically, Nissan was first to use this in a production car, iirc. My father's 93 Nissan Sentra SE-R with the SR20DE (no T since it wasn't turbo.. that motor was never an option in North America) and had VTEC before Honda had it in North America. Now look at Nissan......
We have a 2022 base model Boxster with a manual transmission, the same wheels and the 18 way seats (no PASM or Sport Chrono). It is a great car with plenty of power. We love driving it. We also have 2 991s, and I think I like the Boxster the most.
Right on!
Very useful Comments on rear trunk size vs the 987. I also like the focus on everyday practical usability. Nice review!
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Great review! I have a 2021 Boxster T and have done 10K miles on it and have had no issues. Excellent daily and really fun on the canyons! This Cayman is spec'd to be T - excellent!
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We’ve owned a 2017 Cayman S (Miami Blue) for the past 4 years. We bought it used and it was spec’d with PASM, Torque Vectoring, PDK and Sport Chrono. I really wish that Sport+ (not Sport) mode was reviewed, because the Turbos are kept spooled up and all of the turbo lag goes away.
I like the sound a lot, especially when its full throttle or the boost button is pushed. I understand the Subaru comparison, but club members seem to forget that Porsches started as flat fours.
As much as we love our car, we quit taking it to club events as older PCA members are not shy about telling you how “you should have” spent your money.
That seemed like way more than a mile. 😆
LOL, it's the thought that counts.
I ve been driving à Cayman T for the Last two years. Fun on track and a great daily. Love it! I totaly agree with this revieuw.
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@@PorscheClubofAmerica i did
Great video Damon. Good to see some 718 love. 😃 I have been pleasantly surprised by the performance of my 2022 Cayman S. Plenty of power for the street with fantastic handling. Interesting comments in the build quality on newer Porsches. My previous car was a 2018 Audi TTRS and I thought its build quality was special. My Cayman is exponentially better.
Thanks! Yes, there's some sort of special sauce that Porsches have and most other manufacturers don't.
Mines a Box S 2019.. thought about tt-rs. Your take?
@@PorscheClubofAmerica Mazda is the homeless man's version (think 'Poorman's version', but poorer, lol), imo.. Every single Mazda I've ever driven felt good to drive. Like it was engineered by people who enjoy driving. Mazda 3, Mazda 2, Mx5, Mazda 6, hell, even the CX5 drives good for a car, not just an SUV.
- Former 987.1 Cayman S owner and current ND Miata owner
Very nice. I love the Cayman (even though I have a 986 Boxster S). I think the Cayman is hands down the best-looking Porsche made today.
As I heard another reviewer say one time, "show me the angle that isn't a money shot."
Completely agreeing with you!
I own and love 2 cars. One is a amg c63 with 700plus nm, the other is one of these. I love driving them both for very different reasons. The big difference is the nimbleness of my 718. Its just so light on its feet, the way it changes direction, stops and pulls out of corners is exhilarating. My amg wins in many other areas but it cant match the 718 for this.
I have similar - an AMG C63s and Boxster GTS - both amazing cars. Completely agree with your comments.
I've driven a 718 Cayman S, GT4, and base (with 6-speed manual). I found the base model to be the most fun to drive on the street.
Agreed. That’s why I got one. I didn’t want to live in 2nd gear. Mine is the base engine with full leather, PASM, PTV, Sports Chrono, PDLS+, Bose sound, sports seat + with embossed logo, carbon fiber, sports pipes, racetex headliner, manual box with carbon fiber gear stick. I love it. I can actually use the performance on the street.
@@final_mile_music9713 I was looking at base 718s too.. Have you owned a Porsche before? I ended up in an older Cayman S and can't imagine having one without the flat 6 wail above 5k..
@@dre32pitt I have a loaded base. PTV. Sports Chrono. PDLS+. Sports seats +. PASM. Bose. Full leather. Embossed seats. Carbon fiber trim including gear knob. Racetex t headliner. GT steering wheel (no buttons except the drive mode rotary knob). Sports pipes. It’s amazing. Tons of torque. Revs out nicely. Characterful engine note. Not tuneful as such but kinda old school Porsche to me. I5s my first Porsche but I’ve driven a couple of generations of 911’s on the track and skid pans and my Dad owned a 1984 911 Carerra (pre turbo) that I drove. Personally, I’d have a loaded base over an S with no performance options. I’m not interested in HP bragging rights. I’m interested in driving. All the investment in my car is in dynamics and a nice interior. I have the regular wheels (because our roads are rough) and a standard color (black. My interior is red leather but with the black dash with red stitching). The car rides and handles like a dream and is deceptively quick in a way that the reported 0-60 figure doesn’t show.
@@final_mile_music9713 I was going to go basic basic, lol.. no options.. just the manual.. But I can't not have the flat 6 noise now.. im tainted, lol..
nice ride. great video
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The hatchback of the Cayman is very useful for daily driving. I miss it from my current 911.
Agreed!
I got the 2022 Cayman GTS for the included items as mention on this base model. Kept my spec low for the reason of this being a sports car and didn’t focus on luxury add ones. I only optioned black brake calipers, black aluminum trim, black Porsche logo, and new for 2022 shark blue seat belts. $90430 I thought was a good price considering the times and being purchased in Northern California.
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I have a base Cayman. So base I don’t have vanity mirror lights, just cheap VW plastic. I really wish I had the safety features, LED headlights and keyless go.
I pulled the soundaktor fuse and the fake Subaru rumble disappeared.
It’s not turbo lag. It’s the boost threshold. The turbos spool almost instantly. They just do so over 2500rpm, which with a manual box is a non-issue. I’m always in the sweet spot. There is no lag driving like this. It goes like stink.
You are correct. There is not much turbo lag (there is a tiny bit, even in the sweet spot) but there is little power below the boost threshold. Unfortunately turbo lag has been used to describe boost threshold for so many years that boost threshold doesn't mean much to most people... We'll try our best to use the correct term in future videos.
People complain about the flat 4 but it’s not like the turbo charged flat 6 sounds any better lol
I have a 2017 cayman base model with PDK bought in 2019. It’s driven from May through November. A definite daily driver. As a launch model, it had so many options put on it. About a 70k build sheet.
Carmine red body, metallic black on the wheels, looks like sex
This is not a 22 since I notice the exhaust tips are together and not separated
The exhaust tips are not separated because it’s a 4 cylinder 😝
I test drove a GTS 4.0, GT4, GTS 2.5, and a T. Went with the T and could not be happier.
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I live in NJ. The thought of drilling holes in the front of that beautiful car to mount a required front plate is.......criminal. And yes....its a $100 fine without. Anyone found a good mounting solution for front plate other than...moving?
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@@PorscheClubofAmerica I was going to say the same thing about the front plate mount, although none of our Porsches have front plates...
No, the exhaust tips do not improve performance. What a ridiculous thing to say.
718 also being “new”. Odd review
Maybe next time you should include to show what's underneath looks like. Between the 4 n 6 cylinder is all about preference, IMHO...
noted.
Can anyone please confirm if the 2023 and newer Porsche Cayman base come standard with PSE exhaust for the US market?
It doesn’t. Porsche loves charging for their options
@@verde629 it does come with PSE in the US.
@@darrylgarcia9147 You sure? Why does it have the single rectangular exhaust then, because that’s not the pse
@@verde629 yeah saw one for sale at a local dealership in the US and it had the PSE exhaust button.
@@darrylgarcia9147 hmm interesting I always thought the rectangular pipe didn’t have pse. Planning on getting a 718? I’ve been interested lately knowing the next cayman is gna be full electric…. Makes the flat 4 turbo more appealing lol
So no room for a golf bag?
Great review! I recently purchased a 2023 718T. It includes PASM. Limited slip. Gt4 short shift. Lowered. Not sure why this owner would option out all that in a base 718 when Porsche offers all of those options in the T package. Love my car. Love all of your drives! Thanks!
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You never used sport mode!
I love my 718 more than I love my wife or children. If Canada allowed for car/man marriage I would marry it.
Let's hope they don't monitor these comments, LOL.
You need help lol
@@Encourageable Whaaaaa?
Ventilated seats! That is not a base car :) I know it does not sound like the 6, but this 4 sounds fine, there is way worse out there.
The exhaust tips are a performance enhancement??? LMAO
Would never call a 718 bad, it's got it where is counts, but I much prefer the 6-cylinder Caymans. Prices easily north of $60-70,000 for a 4-cylinder is asking a lot.
Some buy cars based on sound others of us buy based on performance. I'll take a 4 cyl that outperforms a 6 cyl every day.
Little cobb tune and these 4cyl will be as fast as a gt4 in a straight line.
only 1 mile craazy
1 Mile is never enough, but we do our best to give honest impressions.
I guess for a short 1-mile drive, you can only guess and not actually experience the car in many aspects, such as highway driving. Why not give the review more credibility with something like a 10-mile drive?
Not sure you're understanding the concept. They're not trying to get the full driving experience, just what you'd get after driving a car for a mile (or so). Like if a friend just got a new car and let you try it out... first impression only.
Exactly min824!
Drive it like wheres981 drives his Cayman
Definitely **not** an “enthusiast spec”- 18 way seats? Base engine? This is a low rent spec.
You seem very nervous
Mm manual gearbox for an everyday driving car - no thanks. I have the PDK which is faster 0-60.
Can't go wrong with either manual or PDK.
That seems more than a mile drive😂😂😂😂
Sometimes we can't help ourselves.
I took a 718 Cayman for a test drive and couldn’t believe how rough it sounded, noisy, unrefined, not pleasant and right behind your ears. The ride was old fashioned and reminded me of Ford saloons of the 1970’s.
It wasn’t that fast, many hot hatches today can keep up ride better and handle at half the price with better options and equipment.
The trend of 19 and 20 inch wheels is another indication that the car is a horror on the road and built primarily for looks.
Very old fashioned not in a good way, and not suitable for touring around Europe, not suitable for anything other than looking good in the car park.
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If you think that, you haven’t really driven one properly
@@d.nakamura9579 that’s exactly my point Mr Nakamura, where exactly would you drive one of these rough sounding, rough handling, heavy and noisy cars in order to be satisfied that you’ve ‘driven it properly’? Not public roads that’s for sure!
Any car with 19, 20, 22 inch wheels is a poser built for looks and not purpose including these Porsches.
@@BobK5 What alternative to a Porsche Base Cayman would you recommend? I own one of the alternatives that you may be talking about, but I'd like to know what other cars you think are available that ride better and handle at half the price with better options and equipment.
@@mqarhsdm Golf Gti 7.5 GTi, standard wheels, dsg, dsc, just as fast, dynamic handling and 42 mpg at a fraction of the price.
If you option leather seats in a track car you are in fact...not an enthusiast.
Can you really review a car after only driving it for a mile. That's literally less than a minute.
Hurr durr not a 911
YOU DONT NEED PASM AT ALL
Agreed. I test drove one with PASM before buying one without as I couldn't notice any discernible difference? Unless you're going to be flying around Racetracks on Track Days PASM isn't needed for everyday driving.
It's a noticeable difference in comfort daily driving going from the steel suspension to PASM comfort
Need is relative. I do notice a discernible difference when use PASM in my 718. This is especially true the in the twisties when I am pushing the edge. I understand that it is not necessary, but it is certainly a nice to have!
Lol i guess you havent own a Porsche with PASM. It makes a differences for everyday driving.
@@vizi0123 yeah your right mine doesnt have pasm dont feel i need it drive it everyday but hey could be wrong
Why are you so on about.. it’s a base car, for a base car, even though it’s a base Carmen. Jesus Christ.
Sounds like a subaru....
is that a bad thing?
Subaru sounds like a Porsche - my dads old Porsche sounded like a VW - I hated it but omg it’s worth near 350k now
Waste of money
We'd disagree.
Sour grapes