I feel like the only reason why people would believe Jeff Seid would be natural is because of his genetics. Now I guess we all know that Jeff Seid's genetics are absolutely insane. He looked crazy even during his high school days. And when he was younger, I'm pretty sure that's going to be the only reason why people would believe Jeff Seid is natural. I personally do believe that he was natural at some point while competing. However, I don't believe he was natural at the Stockholm Pro and at the Olympia. That's the part where I'm 100% certain that there's no way this was natural, just based off of however the way he looked and also how much progress he's made in the period of time that he made it in. I'm going to be 100% honest. I still don't get why people make videos of Jeff's side even though he doesn't even post anywhere on RUclips anymore. He's literally dead on RUclips, and at this point, I feel like people are starting to forget who Jeff's side even is. So yeah, that's my input on why I think people would believe that Jeff's side was a lifetime natural, just based off of his old pictures, and I'm pretty sure that would be the only reason why. Can't think of another reason why people would think Jeff's side would be natural other than that.
@@03maxithat’s because you and others have become desensitized looking at competitive IFBB pros. When you look at someone like Jeff Seid, by comparison, he isn’t carrying around “crazy size” so you think he might actually be natural. In reality he was always way more jacked than the vast majority of guys at any serious gym.
@@ceej93 people who don't know any better think the only people on steroids are Mr Olympia competitors or Olympic athletes who fail drug tests. If John Cena, the Rock or some wholesome looking dude like Jeff Seid say they're natural and it's just hard work and waking up at 5am, they'll believe it.
I always wondered what someone like Jeff Seid would look like as a real Natty. Now we have a rough estimate (since he still holds on to some supraphysiological muscle mass).
The naïveté of the general public about PED use depresses the hell out of me. One of the cringiest phrases I hear is “can be achieved naturally”. Anyone who uses this phrase verbatim has no idea what they’re talking about.
@user-iq5iv9bi7p the old saying: Big, lean, natty… pick only two.. is pretty accurate. If you see a monster repping 405 on bench while also being sub 10% bf, your suspicion is justified.
Lol, The funny thing is... I was allready following Jeff Seid on youtube, back in the Zyzz days, and he had some videos where he and his mates were talking all cool and shit ''Up the tren brah'' and all kinds of cool steroids quotes, sadly when he became more popular those videos got deleted from his channel and he started saying he was natty all of a sudden 🤣. He probably had to...
You can tell when people get off gear because they shrink. Someone who has , say, spent 15 years lifting weights and then quits is going to lose muscle for sure, but they’re not going to lose that much muscle. They will still have a thicker look than an average person. People who abused gear look like John Cena the wrestler. He claimed natty his whole career and he retired and absolutely shrunk. Lost like 25 lbs of muscle. AND he still lifts
People shrink when: health problems, stop working out, stop eating like a bodybuilder. Not only when they quit gear ⚙️, when people quit gear - they shrink big-time
jon did shrink big time and it's clear from this video he has no health problems, he still eats like bodybuilder, and still works out you fail at every point @@hhkk6155
Any male lifter claiming to not use roids while standing there w/areolas losing the fight w/gravity is so full of sh*t it's ejecting out their backside at escape velocity.
Bro those pics are deff enhanced with some adobe. You for real? and he looks the way he does now because you can tell he hasnt been training but i do agree of not being natty lol.
My view. He hopped on during olympia. And ever since that hes natty. Cuz hes been lifting since 13+ years. And sam sulek is bigger than him in just 3 years of gear. So people dont realise jeff isnt that big….
Kenny this is like 10 years in the making. I can’t believe he lied this whole time. I was certain we would never get an answer to this or no for sure. But I’m 10000 % certain I can’t believe it.
I'll tell you why: If you grabbed a genetically gifted Jeff Seid now of 20 years old saying hes on roids, he wouldnt blow up on social media. But if he said he was natural he'd be the second coming of the Aesthetics Crew up there on views with Alex Eubanks. So long story short fame on social media with your body = money. and p.s - also all the sponsors clothing/supplements would blow you up more too if you claim natty.
They lie because they build a brand around their physiques. Their body is their source of income. And the money comes from teenagers who think they can end up looking like him (or any other fitness influencer) if they buy the supplements they sponsor. Being open about their gear use would destroy their brands.
@@duKamzyy This is a cliche response because literally average person types your comment. I see it hundreds of times a day. Its not it. Teens aint stupid thinking its all natural and all that (btw, Jeff Seid is not even selling supplements so its irrelevant). The thing is this: when you even say you only take 200 mg Test E, literally every single teenager will copy it. Dude it has become a pandemic at this point that l rarely see a natty teen in any gym. Looks like all of them copy someones cycle. Some BBer, a celebrity, an influencer and etc. Thats what this toxic natty or not culture literally brought now that teens literally shutdown their own androgen production because of these cycles. If Jeff comes clean and says l was taking this and that, thousands of more teenagers will literally copy his cycle. Imagine a future of low T young men, who have to rely on TRT to keep going. Thats where the society is heading because of this BS natty or not reveal youe cycle crowd.
Do guys on steroids even like their girlfriends or does the cycle destroy their ability to have long lasting relationships? It seems like they care more about their delts than a happy home, roid rage, road depression definitely doesn't create happy home.
Comparing a professional photoshoot with HDR and Photoshop VS a selfie in the gym - very smart 😂😂😂😂 Jeff didn't look huge or low BF in real life, seen him at expos, and there are vids from those expos. He did infact look natural in real life. Same as some others influencers who look a lot smaller in real life. Also Jeff downsized for a movie career and didn't train at all for quite some time. why does Kenny look like he's on estrogen while being on lots of gear and TRT?😅😅😅
Damn I actually believed that he was natty because: there are indeed people with top notch genetics (for ex. lee priest as a teenager looks insane and probably was not on gear) and Jeff Seids look never really changed. The new picture is actually shocking. Need more context before drawing a conclusion.
Im natty and lean year around thx to genetics, I had periods where I stop lift, did lose some muscle but he lost a lot, I pretty much looked the same even 2-3months of quit lift, his changes are drastic bro. And he still lifts
To be honest as the industry has changed over the years. Looking at his physique he’s not big AT all compared to the pros these days. You are also comparing edited photos to a real life photo. He also doesn’t train no where near what he used to. If you think it takes everything under the sun to look like that then sorry bro your genetics are awful. I can look like they with 150mg test per week and 50mg anavar a day.
I did same as him and I’m natty while being sub 10% bodyfat year around thx to good genetic, but didn’t lose nearly as much muscle even after months of abstaining, he still lifts dude u could maintain ur muscle with one set for each muscle part per workout
he deff did not blast" tren" like lil man dont talk about gear when you know zero jack shit about peds if you dont use yourself. U one of them virgns that just repeat what other haters that have never even seen a tren bottle let alone use it that just throw these kinda comments around.
Your assessment is most definitely accurate however it is worth noting that the peaked photos you are comparing his recent in gym pic to are edited images from photoshoots
Jeff is a great guy. Most aesthetic person. Ok maybe he lied.but maybe his mentality is old school influencer where most of them used to hide that fact…. So maybe even his mind set got similar. But only to the fact of hiding his status. But other than that, great guy
Dude, sorry but you are just bad at making assumptions. Why the heck would it be obvious to maintain your physique for the rest of your life?? Honestly, most of the cases the opposite is true. Jeff is bbuilding for probably 16 years which is quite a long time. Doing that natty, after taking breaks, having injuries lead you somewhere but obviously nowhere near you genetic peak. So making general assumptions is very close minded and not so clever. Think again
I think he is too shredded in this pic.There is context-"If you natural you can be shredded but can't be huge,And if you are huge you can't be shredded at the same time".
Do people actually think he was natty? Great physique, but no way he's natty.
I feel like the only reason why people would believe Jeff Seid would be natural is because of his genetics. Now I guess we all know that Jeff Seid's genetics are absolutely insane. He looked crazy even during his high school days. And when he was younger, I'm pretty sure that's going to be the only reason why people would believe Jeff Seid is natural. I personally do believe that he was natural at some point while competing. However, I don't believe he was natural at the Stockholm Pro and at the Olympia. That's the part where I'm 100% certain that there's no way this was natural, just based off of however the way he looked and also how much progress he's made in the period of time that he made it in. I'm going to be 100% honest. I still don't get why people make videos of Jeff's side even though he doesn't even post anywhere on RUclips anymore. He's literally dead on RUclips, and at this point, I feel like people are starting to forget who Jeff's side even is. So yeah, that's my input on why I think people would believe that Jeff's side was a lifetime natural, just based off of his old pictures, and I'm pretty sure that would be the only reason why. Can't think of another reason why people would think Jeff's side would be natural other than that.
Yes definitely thought he was natty just had diet on point but maybe he's not now his size wasn't crazy so thought he was natty
@@03maxithat’s because you and others have become desensitized looking at competitive IFBB pros. When you look at someone like Jeff Seid, by comparison, he isn’t carrying around “crazy size” so you think he might actually be natural. In reality he was always way more jacked than the vast majority of guys at any serious gym.
@@dohboy88pretty wild lol people think he was shredded to the bone and full like that it’s insanely naive to think he’s a lifetime natural 😂
@@ceej93 people who don't know any better think the only people on steroids are Mr Olympia competitors or Olympic athletes who fail drug tests. If John Cena, the Rock or some wholesome looking dude like Jeff Seid say they're natural and it's just hard work and waking up at 5am, they'll believe it.
You cannot win an IFBB Pro Card natty. Period.
Standards of men's physique were completely different than now. He was a pro 10-15+ years ago 😅😅😅 today same category is 40+ lbs heavier
@@hhkk6155he weight like 170-180 for the contests too
@@hhkk6155 15 years ago he was 14 years old and there was no mens physique devision at all
When it started you could. He weighed like 175 on stage at 6 foot
He went to the dark seid very early
Your bang on for this. He did come back natty, but looks flat and lean.
I always wondered what someone like Jeff Seid would look like as a real Natty. Now we have a rough estimate (since he still holds on to some supraphysiological muscle mass).
That dude gas lit me so hard claiming hard natty 😂
Ahhh, the boyfriend that protects him! A cllllassic!
Jeff seid lives rent free in Kennys head😂 its just hilarious
The naïveté of the general public about PED use depresses the hell out of me. One of the cringiest phrases I hear is “can be achieved naturally”. Anyone who uses this phrase verbatim has no idea what they’re talking about.
@user-iq5iv9bi7p the old saying: Big, lean, natty… pick only two.. is pretty accurate. If you see a monster repping 405 on bench while also being sub 10% bf, your suspicion is justified.
Remember if you don’t believe in hard work and dedication and eating chicken and rice and genetics that’s what his friend said 😂
Beeee caaareful. He’s now only eating chicken breast and rice 13/7 vs 24/7
Kenny KO still angry after not beeing able to speak to Jeff Seid😂😂😂
Hes ripped but his computer plays Fortnite very choppy lol
Lol, The funny thing is... I was allready following Jeff Seid on youtube, back in the Zyzz days, and he had some videos where he and his mates were talking all cool and shit ''Up the tren brah'' and all kinds of cool steroids quotes, sadly when he became more popular those videos got deleted from his channel and he started saying he was natty all of a sudden 🤣. He probably had to...
this news is about 10 years old....bruh
The only one of them was skywalker who was real since first day.
You can tell when people get off gear because they shrink.
Someone who has , say, spent 15 years lifting weights and then quits is going to lose muscle for sure, but they’re not going to lose that much muscle. They will still have a thicker look than an average person.
People who abused gear look like John Cena the wrestler. He claimed natty his whole career and he retired and absolutely shrunk. Lost like 25 lbs of muscle. AND he still lifts
he was hard using peds and then litterly stopped full working out and peds. Alot of morons dont understand natural bodybuilding allows a base.
People shrink when: health problems, stop working out, stop eating like a bodybuilder. Not only when they quit gear ⚙️, when people quit gear - they shrink big-time
jon did shrink big time and
it's clear from this video he has no health problems, he still eats like bodybuilder, and still works out
you fail at every point
@@hhkk6155
Any male lifter claiming to not use roids while standing there w/areolas losing the fight w/gravity is so full of sh*t it's ejecting out their backside at escape velocity.
I have legit witnessed Jeff inject sus250 at chestbrahs place in Sydney a few years ago.
were u friends with them?
@@shred9475Yes with chestbrah, haven't seen them all in a few years. From memory was around 2015 he was doing it.
You are comparing professionally done photos with an amateur one lol
Come on bro
Jeff is low-key a good dude 😢
Low key a con artist.
Shoulders always a dead giveaway.
juicers will always make excuse its not all about drug blah blah. bottom line is you're not getting there without juicing
Natty or not, you can’t get those muscle insertions and symmetry he has which makes his physique insane
I don’t think Kenny knows what Photoshop is tbh
Bro at least he looks somewhat healthy
Like if he wants to be natty, good for him. And as a lawyer, I can tell you first hand that there are worst things than a liar lol
Bro those pics are deff enhanced with some adobe. You for real? and he looks the way he does now because you can tell he hasnt been training but i do agree of not being natty lol.
He’s experiencing Deflation. 😁
The fun part begins when he came of gear. Hij must train like a natty should train, that are diftent rules then when you are on gear 💥
He is always looking for the Natural but he won't test me
You cant sell a dream on a lie - deserve to be called out.
Chicken rice boss has a lisp
If Jeff is natty then I’m Ironman.
he's getting older and not training harder than last time
and off trt
Yup 👍 he wasn't training for quite some time, and even before that he was downsizing trying to be a movie star or smth
Jeff is looking great this year than ever before and his body is natural - as anyone can see now
You’re a flat out idiot lmaoooooo
My view. He hopped on during olympia. And ever since that hes natty. Cuz hes been lifting since 13+ years. And sam sulek is bigger than him in just 3 years of gear. So people dont realise jeff isnt that big….
Kenny this is like 10 years in the making. I can’t believe he lied this whole time. I was certain we would never get an answer to this or no for sure. But I’m 10000 % certain I can’t believe it.
mike ohearn is natty too
Having an elite physique naturally is not a big deal.
This your video doesn't justify anything
Nami mommy only fans review?
Confront in person but his indian boyfriend was mad as fuark
The question is when did he hop on it.?
he shrank like hell
lol he 100% ISNT natural. Hes just SO GENETICALLY GIFTED MY GOD. I dont know why these dudes lie. makes no sense to me
I'll tell you why: If you grabbed a genetically gifted Jeff Seid now of 20 years old saying hes on roids, he wouldnt blow up on social media. But if he said he was natural he'd be the second coming of the Aesthetics Crew up there on views with Alex Eubanks. So long story short fame on social media with your body = money. and p.s - also all the sponsors clothing/supplements would blow you up more too if you claim natty.
They lie because they build a brand around their physiques. Their body is their source of income. And the money comes from teenagers who think they can end up looking like him (or any other fitness influencer) if they buy the supplements they sponsor.
Being open about their gear use would destroy their brands.
Well he is genetically gifted, there's no debate about it. Look at your own photos at 10-12 yo and then look at Jeff's
@@duKamzyy This is a cliche response because literally average person types your comment. I see it hundreds of times a day. Its not it. Teens aint stupid thinking its all natural and all that (btw, Jeff Seid is not even selling supplements so its irrelevant). The thing is this: when you even say you only take 200 mg Test E, literally every single teenager will copy it. Dude it has become a pandemic at this point that l rarely see a natty teen in any gym. Looks like all of them copy someones cycle. Some BBer, a celebrity, an influencer and etc. Thats what this toxic natty or not culture literally brought now that teens literally shutdown their own androgen production because of these cycles. If Jeff comes clean and says l was taking this and that, thousands of more teenagers will literally copy his cycle. Imagine a future of low T young men, who have to rely on TRT to keep going. Thats where the society is heading because of this BS natty or not reveal youe cycle crowd.
Fake natty = Jeff Seid
Say it ain't so... I am shocked!!!! 🤣 my life will never be the same.
he pumps the chicken full of steroids before he eats it, so it counts as natty
Do guys on steroids even like their girlfriends or does the cycle destroy their ability to have long lasting relationships? It seems like they care more about their delts than a happy home, roid rage, road depression definitely doesn't create happy home.
This video didn't need to be made.
You are so right
Comparing a professional photoshoot with HDR and Photoshop VS a selfie in the gym - very smart 😂😂😂😂 Jeff didn't look huge or low BF in real life, seen him at expos, and there are vids from those expos. He did infact look natural in real life. Same as some others influencers who look a lot smaller in real life.
Also Jeff downsized for a movie career and didn't train at all for quite some time.
why does Kenny look like he's on estrogen while being on lots of gear and TRT?😅😅😅
He could look great as a true natty and could keep his body over time. But he would have bever get the attention and fame by using 💉💉💉💉💉
Never natural and never will be. Alot of lies in the fitness industry.
Why keep bothering jeff?leave him alone already... Everybody makes mistakes but this guy kenny ko act like his shit don't stink
Microdosis
Kenny tattoo!
Do you still sell SARMS to kids?
Damn I actually believed that he was natty because: there are indeed people with top notch genetics (for ex. lee priest as a teenager looks insane and probably was not on gear) and Jeff Seids look never really changed. The new picture is actually shocking. Need more context before drawing a conclusion.
Well if he is off his cycle and he's going the natural way. Good for him!
Now the real question is. Is the bra man natural?
Jeff is a full natty brah
I would consider that his passion for working out has fizzled and he’s not training as intense anymore therefor his body composition has changed
Im natty and lean year around thx to genetics, I had periods where I stop lift, did lose some muscle but he lost a lot, I pretty much looked the same even 2-3months of quit lift, his changes are drastic bro. And he still lifts
He downsized trying to make a movie career, then he didn't workout at all for quite some time.
To be honest as the industry has changed over the years. Looking at his physique he’s not big AT all compared to the pros these days. You are also comparing edited photos to a real life photo. He also doesn’t train no where near what he used to. If you think it takes everything under the sun to look like that then sorry bro your genetics are awful. I can look like they with 150mg test per week and 50mg anavar a day.
I did same as him and I’m natty while being sub 10% bodyfat year around thx to good genetic, but didn’t lose nearly as much muscle even after months of abstaining, he still lifts dude u could maintain ur muscle with one set for each muscle part per workout
@@vghcfjhklhe downsized for a movie career, and didn't work out for quite some time
Even back in the day, Jeff didn't look huge or extremely low BF in real life - saw him at expos several times
@@hhkk6155 same concept applies, like i said i did same thing and lost nowhere near that amount of muscle
@@vghcfjhkl who the F cares what you did? You are not a fitness influencer )))))
These fake natty should be disqualified as humanity .
Atfu that’s all u do
Ti u onc t lek
He played the game, got what he needed, made a name and brand. Now he can look after his health rather than run himself into the ground. Smart.
Probably, but that's not what it's about.
@@Lmo--68 what is it about
@@hieloz avoiding responsibility/accountability and continuing a lie for so long
That itch never goes away tho
He's a lying scumbag.
Worst part is he thinks people are still that naive, bro defending him when you confronted him was hilarious. JEFF SEID WE DONT CARE IF U BLASTED TREN
he deff did not blast" tren" like lil man dont talk about gear when you know zero jack shit about peds if you dont use yourself. U one of them virgns that just repeat what other haters that have never even seen a tren bottle let alone use it that just throw these kinda comments around.
Kenny KO on TRT dont even look like he lift.Let that sink in.
Kenny look like he's about to make transition, blasting estro😅
Your assessment is most definitely accurate however it is worth noting that the peaked photos you are comparing his recent in gym pic to are edited images from photoshoots
Jeff is a great guy. Most aesthetic person. Ok maybe he lied.but maybe his mentality is old school influencer where most of them used to hide that fact…. So maybe even his mind set got similar. But only to the fact of hiding his status. But other than that, great guy
No, he is a conartist.
Dude, sorry but you are just bad at making assumptions. Why the heck would it be obvious to maintain your physique for the rest of your life?? Honestly, most of the cases the opposite is true. Jeff is bbuilding for probably 16 years which is quite a long time. Doing that natty, after taking breaks, having injuries lead you somewhere but obviously nowhere near you genetic peak. So making general assumptions is very close minded and not so clever. Think again
I think he is too shredded in this pic.There is context-"If you natural you can be shredded but can't be huge,And if you are huge you can't be shredded at the same time".
lol why did you even make this video?
bro were you born yesterday?
Jealous 😅😅😅 Kenny on gear can't look even half as good at a 14 yo Natty Jeff 😂😂😂