No Originals? The Bible Is a Copy.
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Why aren't there any originals of the Bible? And since there aren't any, how is it possible to know that the Bible we have in front of us today is an accurate representation of what was written down in the first place?
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Incredible video! Simple yet profound...you have a clear, concise manner of communicating your points and this is exactly what I was looking for to answer my questions. God bless you and your family.
Quality of video was really great! Nice explanation. Cool to have a little interview and interaction with others, fun music, and nice Mega Man reference!
LOVE this video. I would love for even more videos to tackle topics like this!
This is a GREAT explanation of an important topic. Matt... you’re a blessed intellectual and relatable communicator. I encourage you to keep producing quality videos.
And how cool is it that you know the ‘Smarter Every Day’ dude! 😜
Good work, I like the experiment as well. Thank you for adding valuable content that helps people think intelligibly about the most significant issue of their lives. I really appreciate you and Destin and am thankful for having learned about your channel from getting to know you through the "No Dumb Questions" podcast. I think, of late, another blessing to me has been Tim Mackie (Main contributor to "The Bible Project") and if you've not been turned on to him, I urge you to consider looking into his exploration of biblical themes.
Perfect timing on this. Our small group is working on teaching on how to teach kids apologetics, and this was a long discussion a few weeks ago. We watched a video from a former Christian turned atheist lecturing on the discrepancies in the Bible (of course it was easy to pick apart his arguments because he never gave specifics of what the discrepancies were and he was obviously speaking out of anger). In your 10 minute video you have demolished an argument he took an hour to build (with a lot of repetitions).
Hi Ticia. Great idea of exposing kids to this. I have a hard time bringing up this topic in our adult Bible study -- the folks just aren't that interested.
Be aware that there are opponents (like the atheist you mention) whose academic credentials, quality of arguments, and mode of arguing, are much more respectable than that guy. I'm thinking people like Bart Ehrman here. He teaches at Duke, and has written popular-level books on the topic. But his erudition doesn't make him right.
Bart Ehrman is actually the person I was referring to, I just didn't remember his name when I commented. I watched an hour-long talk he did, and in his talk, he repeated himself several times, he never gave concrete examples, and when he says thousands of errors, he's talking spelling or word order errors. I know academically he's very respected, but the couple of videos I saw I could pick apart his arguments easily.
@@TiciaM lol, that was a great comeback. XD
@@TiciaM Seriously?! You're picking apart an hour long lecture(s) and considering that good enough?! How about you actually read his books, which are far more in depth, and then try to refute his arguments? He's very well respected because he's earned that respect. Typically, they don't let uninformed/uneducated scholars write new testament textbooks for ivy league schools.
@@dabeamer42 Bart Ehrman doesn't teach at Duke; he teaches at UNC Chapel Hill. Mark Goodacre is the new testament professor at Duke. Bart Ehrman has never taught there, only at Rutgers and UNC Chapel Hill. If you're going to try to smear the guy, you might want to at least get his credentials correct. You do realize that you could have googled that information, right? And no, his erudition doesn't necessarily make him right; the validity of his arguments are what matter most. Until you've addressed those, you have no reason to dismiss him. As I stated in my previous comment on this thread, it says quite alot to his knowledge/perspective that he is enlisted to write new testament textbooks for ivy league schools. And as for your "great idea exposing kids to this" comment, I think indoctrination of children is disgusting. If they want to believe when they are psychologically matured and understand logic and critical thinking, then that should be their choice to make. Ingraining them with a belief at an early age, especially a religious faith based belief, is irresponsible to say the least.
Love this series so far. It's what 2 years in Bible college taught me in 10 minute series. Totally sharing this on Facebook if that's OK. I also like the fact you left the end open as to not prevoke an argument about whether God is real. It keeps it in the middle and allows people sharing it to open more to the gospel. Stay awesome
Bible collage don't teach you the truth
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Buddha's sutras were way older than the bible but they can still be found.
Your examples are always phenomenal. Really great job in this one.
Hi Matt, just been catching up on all your NDQs over the past fortnight. They are fab, as is this video. You, sir, are an inspiration to me. Keep up the great work!!
Very well done. Your rational and reasoned videos are the best on the web. I have been trying to explain this very thing to people for years. It simply does not compute with others...for some reason. (I, of course, have my suspicions as to why. 😉). Keep up the great work.
Well done, as always! Keep up the good work!
I loved your poem exercise, and the poem itself!
Good work on basic apologetics with textual criticism.
Love what you're doing with this series.
Thank you so much for this series! Its ao great knowing more about the bible beyond the stories!
Seeing the comparison between New Testament manuscripts verses others were FASCINATING
Really enjoying this series. Great info.
Phenomenal video! Loved it, thanks very much Matt!!
I just wanna say this video is eye opening and reassuring and just makes me feel good thank you!
Great job! Keep the good work.
Found your channel back when Destin mentioned. LOVE your videos and look forward to them each week!!
+Jessica Olson Thanks Jessica!
@@MattWhitmanTMBH John wasn’t written by john the author of john is unknown.
Is that papyrus font on a papyrus background?
#papyrusception
+RyoriNoTetsujinfan "I know what you did James Cameron!"
Yes, and was, I have zero doubt in my mind, selected for that exact reason!
hahahah
Very well done! Thanks for sharing this.
These videos are excellent, thank you.
Great video! I love your enthusiastic tone. I love your tangible explanations and teaching methodology. Very easy to listen to. I don't know if previous comments have asked this.... The comparison with the kids copying of the poem is great, but simplistic in that it doesn't consider the aspect of time and generations of copying. Since the majority of New Testament copies have come from one family of earlier texts, isn't it better to lean towards the earlier texts rather than a simply rule of "majority wins"?
Fascinating experiment where you recreate the poem from the kids' copies. Really good idea. And.....
Han Shot First!
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It is a very interesting video!
*Han did in fact shoot first*
ONLY Hans shot.
@@georgechristiansen6785 Point taken! I agree 💯
All your videos are so good👏👏
Great video man.
Destin Sandlin Hi Destin, just wanted to say thank you so much for your great work on RUclips. SED is one of my go-to places as a Physics teacher and NDQs has firmly established itself as my podcast of choice to listen to while doing house chores! (They are often so good that I look for extra jobs to do so that I can keep on listening!!)
pretty sure that's not the real Destin, since he often comments with his Smarter Everyday account here
Monkey Monkey So you don't listen to men, just God? Clever. Just one question. Was Mohammed a man?
Monkey Monkey I respect your beliefs, but I'm curious. Why is everything one man (Muhammad) says credible, but many people reading thousands of texts and agreeing on exactly what was written isn't credible? I'm trying to understand why one man's writing must be from God, but many men agreeing on a common writing isn't. It just seems disingenuous, but maybe I misunderstood you.
Awesome Matt. Really enjoyed this one.
Well done Matt! This video is awesome. So are you.
Huge fan of your videos and your work on NDQ. I lost it on the Darryl name drop :)
This is ingenious and beautiful! Awesome video man!
Great video excellent work n experiment. This is exactly what we learn from. Thanx mate keep up the super work
Thank you, once again, Matt.
Great video Matt!
Ths is so important!! Good job.
Sooo good love the experiment too, what a brilliant presentation of the information. Awesome, love mum :)
Dude I can't tell you how much I love your channel. Thank you for existing, pls keep content coming.
Also, the way you always make it an open ended, conversation starter, that's just who you are, you don't have a hidden agenda with it and I love that, it's rarer than you know
Thanks for saying that Yanislava! I can’t tell you how much I appreciate hearing from people who are tracking with what I’m going for here. Thank you!
Buddha's sutras were way older than the bible but they can still be found.
This was fun to watch! 👍🏻
You have quite a gift explaining biblical material. Great job.
MegaMan sfx!? In a Bible video!?
This makes me happy.
Man.. I just loved your presentation
Thank you explaining this in such an objective, clear and unbias way! I am a Christian and I also love science. Thank you for bridging the two together!
This is actually brilliant. Well done. Great video.
Nicely done! I spent yesterday afternoon monkeying around on the roof putting up lights & listening to your sermon on the Protestant reformation. It was super informative & gave me a better understanding on what sacrifices were made for our benefit
Where do you listen to his sermons?
Kyle Reitsma Sermons - Lander Evangelical Free Church
Sunday sermons and other lessons from Sunday School classes
Via my podcast app
Subscribe: feed://lander-efree.squarespace.com/sermons?format=rss
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Search any podcast player for "Lander Evangelical Free Church". My personal recommendation would be to jump in on his Sermon on the Mount Series starting with the Beatitudes at the beginning of Matthew chapter 5. His deep dive into Ephesians is pretty great, too.
Thank you DJ Martinez! I will look into that series!
Jarrett Hall Thanks for the link! He never mentioned those. What other secrets is this mysterious man hiding? Just when I think I know some guy on the internet, I learn he's living a secret life, posting sermons and not even telling ME, his buddy? Doesn't subscribing to someone's RUclips channel MEAN anything anymore? Who ARE you Matt? If that's your real name.
Anyway, listened to the "sermon on the mount", then bookmarked for later. 45 minutes is long, but if it wasn't 12:30am, I'd listen to another one. I like the relatable analogies that actually make sense and add value to the subject matter.
What happened to my life? I'm getting excited to listen to a bunch of sermons?! Don't tell Matt I liked it. He didn't tell me they even existed, so why should I tell him anything? That'll teach him to respect me. If he asks, I'll say I fell asleep after 5 minutes.
Congratulations on this video, this is a very insightfull experiment!
this is one of the best breakdowns ive ever seen! amazing job
Destin's rubbing off on you. You did a science! Actually, you did a few different sciences! Nice job, sciencer!
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Superb explanation. Well done
Hey Matt, really awesome episode. I really liked how you got those kids to copy the poem as a practical experiment. I have gotten into many discussions about the validity of the early manuscripts and so on. It is really eye opening how much evidence points to at least a single working document.
That said, why isn't this spoken about more? I feel this should be common knowledge about the considering the fact that scholars have been studying these texts for thousands of years and so many people's lives have been affected by said texts.
Thanks for all your hard work. Also Han shot first. Please fix.
to answer your question about why isn't this spoken about more its rather simple, Most pastors and churches don't invest the time and energy required to really lay out why we believe what we believe. instead they give platitudes and bullet points.
Great study bro! Cross my minds your questions with no solutions
Im ok with errors on copies. My issues are with the historical inaccuracies, scientific impossibilities and general lack of archeological evidence.
One thing the bible isn't lacking is archeological evidence, that's actually one of its strengths. That's not to say everything in it is backed by archeology. Scientific impossibilities are a universe from nothing, we never observe things coming from nothing.
So true. Having that many copies only means the inaccuracies, scientific impossibilities and general lack of evidence are spread across them all.
Great video and test!
Really great video!
Great video, I went to a Christian college and this is teaching that took a whole semester to examine and you broke it down in a clear and understandable video🔥
This was good. Thank you!
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Wow...marvelously done!
Nicely done.
Hi Matt. Do you recommend going to bible school/collage? How did you learn all that you know? Do you have any pointers, any tips that you could share with me? One last question, what denomination are you? Thanks you. I am so glad I found your channel!
Awesome clip!! :)
Great stuff
Thank you for also pointing out the difference in arguments about whether the Bible is a verifiable historical document and whether what it says actually happened. Plenty of Christians themselves would still argue that the Olympian gods in Homer's writings didn't actually exist either, so it isn't unreasonable for people to question/argue/discuss the supernatural stuff in the Bible either.
Plenty of historians argue over how much of Julius Caesar's writings actually happened as well (#fakenews), but we are still talking about some of the most well documented ancient texts, so we know with a good degree of certainty that these are the same words that ancient people had in front of them to read also AND that quite a lot of these words were written down within the lifetimes of those people who were being written about...
Good work 👏🏿
Great video! It would be cool if you did a video comparing the Moses theory and multiple authors theory of the Old Testament.
Such a good way of explaining it!
Your Videos are well done. Obviously you put a lot of work in them.
+Chris Bau thanks Chris, they are a ton of work, but I enjoy doing it.
Keep up the good work !
I've been loving the series. Just a quick question. There are verses or excerpts that are footnoted with *not in earlier manuscripts. How do those passages come about?
You’re awesome brother.
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Well explained. Thanks 😊
This is awesome!
One of the best explanation video. 😊
I’m a Catholic that always loves searching for good information to help me evangelize to other people and I always enjoy all your videos! You are very well spoken! God bless you my brother in Christ
Hey there I too am a catholic 😝
Buddha's sutras were way older than the bible but they can still be found.
This is the best video I’ve seen on this ❤❤❤❤❤
Ah, Textual Crit. My favorite class in seminary. Really. I enjoy digging in to the apparatus (that's the term for the footnotes Matt pointed to, where the scholars give reasons for and against a given reading).
I was a teeny bit disappointed that Matt made it all the way thru without mentioning the phrase "Textual Criticism". That would have made my day.
Thank you!!!
Well done
This video is REALLY good!
It's great that Vikings got put with natural disasters. Great idea using the poem and younger students. This is a great series of videos. Thank you.
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How about doing your fun poem in another language then try to ask someone to reconstruct it word by word in context to another language to define the meaning?
I mean didn't you realize this? I mean why English?
Love the buffer music. Reminds me of stranger things. Great video!
Great video! Loved the experiment you did. It would have been a better analogy though if you had asked some of the kids to DELIBERATELY add to the poem, which we know scribes did to the gospels (e.g. the gospel of John's story of Jesus and the woman taken in adultery is not found in our oldest and best manuscripts. Same with the last twelve verses of Mark)
+theninjacowboy I did that. More in the next video.
Great videoo , thank you
Wait, somone got Smarter Everyday in my Ten Minute Bible Hour. :) I like the fact that you actually tested the hypothesis of statistical analysis on defragmenting documents. ;) With kids no less. :)
That is probably the coolest part of this
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Ah! Thank you for this video.
Very good video.I love your example.keep up the good woork .(you see the typo? ha ha )
Dude, you make sense. 👍
For anyone that doubts it still,.. see Dr. Daniel Wallace and his research on this in depth. He is the founder of- the Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts.He is actually the guy who is personally digitizing every NT greek manuscript in the entire world.
one quibble: what about potential early errors in a text that got widely copied? it seems semi-likely that quite a few 'chains of copies' could flow through the same text, so an error in that text could become fairly widespread.
other than that, great video!
That's absolutely correct. That is why scholars don't just count the number of manuscripts that say one thing and then say the one with the most is the best. There are a number of techniques that help root out early errors. The easiest is that most errors don't make sense when you read it, so we know that those are an error. Another technique is that manuscripts are sorted into "textual families". These are usually text traditions that grew up in different areas. For much of the reception history of the NT, different areas were separated geographically, politically or even theologically and there was not as much "cross-pollination" of textual traditions. Some of these divisions happened very early and, once they did, even early errors made subsequently didn't cross over into the other tradition. An extension of this is translation. The NT letters and books were translated very early into other languages (like Coptic) and while we generally don't re-translate these back into Greek and use them for translation, they are helpful for settling textual disagreements of competing early text traditions.
There are more techniques as well, but the final thing to consider is that most of these variants make no difference. About 1% of all variants are realistic (i.e. they could be the correct copy) AND significant (meaning that the difference would even show up in a translation to English).
EXCELLENT.
Great video
Dude you're so cool
-Mom
Matt, that was amazing. What a fantastic analogy! You really broke the subject down and put a rather obscure topic (textual criticism) in non-wonky terms that anybody can understand. Having said that, if the KJV was good enough for the Apostle Paul, then why isn't it good enough for you?
The KJV was written some 1500 years after Paul was put to death so even with the KJV one has to be careful.
Simply neat articulation
Hi Matt. Do you have a preferred edition/copy of the New Testament in Greek? It seems like a document I should have.
I couldn't tell exactly which one Matt was using but I think it was a Nestle -Aland edition. It could the United Bible Societies edition but they do have the same text base. The Nestle-Aland text is the standard for academic work in New Testament studies and you can find them rather cheaply on eBay and Amazon. I found a Nestle-Aland 25th edition at a thrift store for $2.99.
Here's the biblical motto I use on copies "God allows the dust, but doesnt allow the rust". Unlike a copy machine, the biggest scriptural problem is not what's been taken away, but what is added. Nowhere on a copy machine does anything get added, only diminished. Textually, there's next to no evidence anything has been lost, only embellished.
Great explaination. But how do we know for certain that the "original" poem, which you give for children to copy, original? 🤔
Because Robert Frost lived in modern society (died 1963), where his works were published in his lifetime, proofread by him, mass-printed on presses, and available in bookstores and libraries.
But that's not what you were really asking, is it?
You used Mega Man sound bites for your graphs. You win.
Is there a version of this for the "Old" testament ?