Elliot Page Says 'Juno' Fame Almost Killed Him
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2022
- Elliot Page covers ‘Esquire's summer issue, where he gets candid about his mental health struggles at the height of his ‘Juno’ fame. The actor recalls not being ok in his early to mid-twenties and the pressure of conforming to gender expectations becoming coming out as transgender in 2020.
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This message is so dangerous. Being a tomboy and hating dresses has nothing to do with being transexual.
YES.
Exactly
Agreed
Except Elliot actually truly is a trans person-? Not just some “tomboy who hates wearing dresses.”
It even mentions how he’s fully transitioned: Top & Bottom surgery complete. So idk if I’ve missed your point then? Cuz I’m a bit confused.
And even with that fact aside-
It’s still pretty evident what the message was meant to be about… Which included his journey up until the transition & then gives an example of a past traumatizing “norm” he had been faced with by being forced to wear clothing for the opposite gender that he identifies with in his heart.
So if anyone in this response thread could possibly fill me in on what y’all mean by that?
I've always thought that Page was awkward, now after this interview I feel like boy or girl he's still just as awkward.
Yeah, nothing has really changed here... well, a couple of things...
I have felt the same. I think it was because the couple of roles I saw as. Ellen were the same type - annoying attitude, and it turned me off. I felt that this was the real person coming through.
Bruh I used to have the biggest crush on Juno 🥲
Yea she looks sickly now imo
Yeah, that's what these transgender people do not understand. It is not about being a man or a woman, they are just not comfortable with being in a human body. I do not blame them at all, the truth is the human body was designed wrong, or wrongly genetically modified. I fancy neither gender so to me gender change is stupid! Just do your best to live in the body/gender you were born. The body is fragile enough without putting it through unneccessary surgeries to overcome. Elliot Page like many transgender place too much emphasis on gender, masculinity, and femininity, let us see how much happier she will be at being a fake male. I agree with her that being a feminine woman sucks!...long hair, dresses, high heels, make up etc. But by becoming a fake male is not the answer. She could have dialed down the femininity and stopped wearing dresses, high heels, long hair makeup. Not all women adhere to feminine code of conduct and they are not lesbian either. Just be comfortable in your gender and ignore masculine or feminine conduct. I understand this might be hard for people to comprehend.
If she wasn't comfortable playing a female character, why did she accept the role of a female character
Omg it’s he stupid idc if I get hate
Sorry stupid is harsh
And she certainly didn’t have trouble cashing THAT check, did she??!!
This world is a mess...
just hollywood. not the world 😂
Yeah it’s a mess with people like you judging other’s choices when you could easily just not choose it for yourself if it bothers you that much.
@@colechristensen1909 u saw her interview with oprah? and u say that joy? 🤣
The U.S. is a mess. This Crap doesn't happen in the middle east or Africa.
@@colechristensen1909bro you can't even help yourself from judging other people's OPINIONS sit tf down.
I mean no disrespect but didn’t he audition for the parts knowing what the parts were about… it’s not like someone forced him to audition and keep playing the roles he claims made him have panic attacks for the way the character was to be dressed.
Exactly what I thought.
I get why he did it though. But then again, he did audition for that role before he came out. I’m glad that he did come out. No role is worth hiding who you are.
no hate what so ever but it is possible he was feeling dysphoric with out knowing the language used to to describe his feelings even if he auditioned there is pressures of womanhood for trans men/trans masculine people (like playing a pregant woman in a show for example, wearing dresses)like you feel this type of obligation to perform womanhood prior to realizing ur trans and not having the words to describe the kind of discomfort you feel performing that. not saying thats his exact experience but that is a common experience for trans mascs (myself included) not all ofc and some even enjoy feminity/pregnancy/dresses etc but i hope that explains it a bit for ya!!
Exactly
You’re so desperate to disprove his experience. I mean no disrespect, but maybe figure out why that is?
It's almost like butchering ones self doesn't help one's mental health
Yes it’s a symptom , after they actually go threw with the mutilation they always regret it , here’s some more information about BID
Body integrity dysphoria (BID, also referred to as body integrity identity disorder, amputee identity disorder and xenomelia, formerly called apotemnophilia) is a mental disorder characterized by a desire to have a sensory or physical disability or having discomfort with being able-bodied beginning in early adolescence and resulting in harmful consequences.[1] BID appears to be related to somatoparaphrenia.[2] People with this condition may refer to themselves as "transabled"
It seems everyone is looking at this as powerful or being true to one's self. Its getting her much praise. But this is nothing more than self hate. You don't like like or accept yourself so you change into something more acceptable for the people. This is the exact opposite of accepting yourself. Yet, society will try to confuse the mass and say embracing the gender change is actually accepting yourself.
Hear hear! ❤
Exactly. So-called gender confirmation surgery is gender-denial and self-harm.
Now he looks and sounds more unwell than ever
Elliot seems way more anxious and miserable than Ellen. Just my observation.
I agree! I got anxious and worried watching him speak in this snippet of interview.
he seems like a jittery, trembling mess.
Might be a bit harsh to say, but trying to be male while being built like that is something that personally would cause me a lot of cognitive dissonance and headache.
I've been male for all my life and I would definitely not want to be the same size as an average 12-13 year old as an adult male, that in regard for the height and physical development.
@@lumina1re329 well , especially being an actor. When he was Ellen definitely looked and could pass for a female anywhere from 25 to maybe 39 so roles were easier to get. Now he can probably only get very limited roles so I wouldn't be surprised if he has to try a different approach to making a living. Maybe not, I don't get how that will work now.
I think on camera interviews, when you’re an introverted person like him, can be very hard to do at any time. Add to that the subject matter of having to discuss something immensely personal and private, with basically the world and he’s not likely going to be all upbeat and projecting confidence.
Is it me or does it seem like Elliott still isn't happy ?? Not just based on this interview but also in other pics ...etc
I think he's probably still got a lot to work through, all the years of depression, reckoning with all the work he did in the past, as well as his issues with food and body dysphoria. That's a lot to process and i feel like will probably take years of therapy. i think those things don't just completely go away when you transition after several decades of having to live in a way that made you so unhappy. I think with time, help and getting used to his new life, he'll hopefully be happier. But i think that's just the reason he still seems unhappy. And i hope he can adjust from that and live his life to the absolute fullest. ♥️
Yep….. got issues….. too bad 😕
@@fern7306 More like Subscriptions!!
I think that he s happy, but it' s not so easy to forget all the bad feelings.
Probably because he gets so many hates and threats. Its a lot to have to deal with.
When she realizes over the course of the next 7-10 years maximum that she still isn't emotionally stable, she will most likely be gone. Sad reality and a harsh truth.
Sad to say but truth
I agree she still is not happy and the damage is done. You need to mentally heal before you can physically get better
oh for real. the suicide rate spikes in that population in the 8 to 10 year mark. and everyone who doesn't have a dog in this fight can see why.
I feel sorry for that person’s ongoing confusion. I would venture to say that even as a male, he still is dealing with crap that he isn’t admitting. Human. All of us.
I can't imagine it helps when media feed into that actress' delusions.
@@dst1311 for real. This lost soul Elliot whoever would likely have a very unhappy life. That's what happens when you disrupt nature
She has more problems now ! With a non functioning body.
The transphobia in these replies is gross
@@maxlikesdinos ???
You like "dinosaurs?" That's a TERF symbol.
We're in a *media frenzied mental health crisis*
No we’re in an ignorance fueled mental health crisis
So true .. instead of spreading awareness of Body integrity disorder .. they’re enabling a harmful mental disorder .. insanity at its finest .
Big time.
Yep...too much of it...kids brains being messed up by people like this🤔
Yep!!!! And it’s all by design!!! SMH
he looked uncomfortable back then. he looks uncomfortable now.
I think he’s just naturally awkward
@@marinaashley9995 no YOU need help. Stop trying to bash someone due to your ignorance. Commenting on everyone’s replies as if you’re going to change people’s perception about him. Grow the fuck up and eat grass.
@@marinaashley9995 Eliiott is a grown up. A adult that makes his own decisions and decided to get the help he needed by himself.
Elliot said ‘suffered from body dysmorphia depression and anxiety’….. shouldn’t these areas of mental health be addressed and healing take place before the commitment of gender transition?
@@schebania Actually, that is usually a included Part of transitioning. Where I live for example you go trough years and years of therapy before you are able to make life changing decisions on your body. I agree with you tho.
First time you'll ever see a woman's chest uncensored on YT for a non-educational video.
Lol the freak loop hole
Right off the bat they’re calling her he and him and I now understand what people have been shouting from the mountain tops. We are truly in the end times. This once beautiful girl destroyed her body. Something happened at some point because you don’t go from being beautiful and dressing up and dolling yourself up to all of a sudden pretending you’re a man with a vagina and ovaries and chop off your boobs.
Just say you don't know what you're talking about with less words next time.
@@makeuparmy7698 I mean, when it's controversial to call a woman a woman, you can't blame people for thinking the end is near. Up is down left is chicken, 2 + 2 = fish. It's literal madness.
Lots of young ppl think their awkwardness is due to genders issues when in fact it’s stem from many other deep rooted issues. Whenever I feel confident, feel as if I can wear a garbage bag and I would still feel great about myself. But when I’m feeling down, I can wear the most beautiful clothes and I still feel bad about myself.
👍
*Well said*
I am president of the world, you must obey everything I say. That’s how I identify, so you HAVE to go with it.
In this case, it was as stated, body dismorphia, not the clothes... he was obviously trans. Note the statement about his chest...🤷♀️🙄
true
Honestly the funniest thing here is that under this video RUclips offers for you to "Buy or Rent Juno"
😂
Juno was up for a bit of risky raw.
😂😂😂
Loved that movie lol. Me and my friend watched it on repeat all weekend and then my class got to do film study on it at school. It was a great time for me
A good movie’s a good movie.
@@marinaashley9995 it was good, just bcuz u hate elliott doesnt mean the movie was bad
Just a reminder that changing a human's sex is actually not possible, no matter how much transitioning a person goes through.
He wasn’t changing his sex, he was always a male. He changed his body to match who he always was on the inside.
EXACTLY!!!
THANK YOU!!!
Exactly yes💯‼️‼️
This is our society now. Where we praise people for having disorders and being over weight, telling them that it's such a beautiful thing while we watch them slowly die from it.
Elliot page is the happiest they’ve ever been right now. Listen, there is no treatment for body dysmorphia. The ONLY treatment available is anti depressants and CBT (therapy) and less than 12% of people with BD find it effective.
So what’s the alternative? A person can either live life as they feel comfortable or they can live life trying to make others comfortable. Why can’t society just accept people for who they are? I would choose happiness for you and for anyone out there reading this
@@sarahwilkens6326true. But they force others to bend to their will, and if you don't, you're transphobic.
@@sarahwilkens6326 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah ok
@sarahwilkens6326 just because someone says they're happy, doesn't mean we have to believe them. This person looks miserable. Maybe it's because they harmed their body instead of dealing with the issues that made them hate it.
What a crazy world we live in.
👏👏🙌🙌👍👍
Can't say I understand most of what Page went through but one thing that really resonated with me is how Michael Cera could wear slacks and sneakers to the premiere but they had to wear a dress and heels. Like they said, lots of cis women don't like dressing like that and they shouldn't be pressured to. Heels are so uncomfortable.
Yeah, and? I’ve worked jobs where I had to wear dress shoes but but female coworkers could wear sandals and open toed shoes… in the blazing heat. Sometimes we have to do things and wear things we’re not comfortable in. It’s called being an employee and getting paid. There are rules!
Plenty of women are uncomfortable with the ways we're expected to dress but that doesn't mean we're not women. Page seems to think that being uncomfortable with sexism means Page isn't a woman, which means Page thinks that women are comfortable with sexism.
@@JC-dz3kv Comparing the closed toed shoes to open toed shoes let's us know you have no idea how uncomfortable and limiting heels and a dress can be.
@@propogandalf Formal business attire is not necessarily supposed to be comfortable. It's meant to give the appearance and air of professionalism. Maybe you should try wearing a button-up shirt and a tie. Go see how limiting a full suit is. I don't see any men whining about this and saying how not liking to wear it makes them really a woman. I'd gladly wear a kilt over a suit any day.
@@user-gf3wn1ne9n you’re missing the point completely
Ouch this is painful to watch. This is damaged woman. What she allowed to be done to her body is terrible and people that did this, should be in prison. She looked ok, not hot, but not total ugly. Now she looks like someone ran tractor over her body and face. This is very bad and dangerous.
Bet your mom's a n u s looks like that without a tractor running through it lol. Now maybe it might be ran through but in a different way lok
Recently rewatched Juno and there is a scene that really shakes you now knowing about Elliot’s view of himself back then. Juno says a line, “I don’t really know what kind of girl I am” and it broke my heart for a second because I can only imagine how he was feeling back in the day and saying that line had so much layers underneath.
"He" wasn't forced to do that movie at gunpoint.
"She"
"She"
Herself
Yeah. I remember that line very well.
Most unsettling thing iv seen in awhile
I signed a contract and auditioned for a movie 15 years ago about a pregnant chick. Got paid millions and complains. No one made you sign up for that movie knowing how you felt inside.
Someone discussing an experience and how it affected their mental health isn't the same as complaining. Probably don't need to be perpetuating that stigma. I also don't see him saying anyone forced him or even blaming anyone for those choices but rather explaining what he was going through at the time as a result.
@@skinsey85 but they were response for putting themselves in that position and I think you need to own that. Lots of People would have loved to have taken that movie role. He is saying implying he was forced to do things that made him uncomfortable. But he signed the contract.
@@skinsey85 *responsible
@@skinsey85 she basically was shaming others for not knowing she is mentally deranged...
Absolutely ridiculous the way people think she wont acknowledge how it literally changed her life get realpeople are so entitled and self centered
She's an actress but she can't convince me she's happy now. The problem wasn't your gender.
Lord touch this confused young woman and guide her to know you.
Many of us think things like fame and fortune can cancel out depression and many problems, but they can't. I'm glad Elliot's alive and we do need more people to realize privilege does not stop mental health from getting bad and he was in the closet. That must suck no matter the life you live.
Yes, yes very moving and pc but privilege absolutely does Equip one with the financial tools to seek help and address mental health, and white privilege ensures you don’t get shot by police while you have a “movie worthy” freak out because some Karen witnessed it and immediately called the cops. White privilege affords you the opportunity to vent your “ struggle on Oprah while she looks on with empathy for someone who profited while female and will continue to profit as a male or a green et should he choose to be. Meanwhile in the real world my best friends black lesbian daughter has attempted Suicide several times is receiving Subpar services for her Deteriorating mental health that her mother can barely afford and is now working two jobs to support all while going through a divorce and having her other children resent her for being unavailable. So excuse me while I cringe and role my eyes at Elliot and Oprah’s complete detachment from reality. I’m unmoved. Oprah should interview and lend that platform to those he really need it. Somehow I doubt he’s rejecting royalties from said movies he made as a woman. Nor should he but his story is one of Perseverance due to the fact that he is and was privileged during his mental mental health struggle. Most are not so fortunate.
@@lifewithdraco4242 I don't think Elliot has denied that he has privilege and what you said about privilege isn't something I want to fight against. Privilege helped him, but others, like your friend's daughter are not as fortunate. I never said all the other people suck. I care about your friend's daughter too. Her story should be heard and she should be given better help. I stand by my stance that we have to help anyone and that desperate mental health claims all sorts of people and I always believed privilege makes it better compared to someone without it and that this is all individual. I'm not sorry for caring about Elliot. I am sorry you felt I would not care about your friend's daughter. I want her situation to get better. I'm sorry for her mother too.
@@lingeringquestions519 So you suck up the none sense and call her he. Unbelievable!
@@lingeringquestions519 and who are you? What are you famous for?
@@lingeringquestions519 I am confused...does Elliot Paige now have toxic white male privilege? If so, does that mean the he is being attacked by both political parties now since he would be now considered a white male supremacists and a transgender??? Please help me understand. Does he have have movie role privilege now?
I appreciate that he also stuck up for women who may not want to wear a dress and heels.
It also goes to show that transphobes are wrong when they try to say that the transgender community just reinforces stereotypical gender roles. Nobody has to conform to gender expectations, gender identity is a whole lot more complicated than that.
💀
@Running Bear Does going out of your way to bother trans people make you feel better about yourself?
@@howlsaur yes
Page's comments have made it clear that Page thinks women identify with sexism.
He was a gorgeous woman, not gonna lie. I can’t imagine being in that situation where you’re forced to being someone you know you’re not, uncomfortable to the point where it makes you sick. I’m happy that he’s finally living his life how he wants to.
You mean she. I understand she's happier embodying male features and more power to her to look how she wants but in the end, just because she prefers to be male, it doesn't mean she is. This boy by definition is genetically female and always will be. Sex changes are not possible. But really what people wear, cut off, add on, or change is up to them and I hope they are happier for it. Facts also matter. Not just people's feelings. Truth matters. Biological truths remain.
And make millions !poor Elliot
She was a gorgeous woman, now she's a hack job. The doctors should be arrested.
Ur a joke just like he/her
She will ☠ herself in a few years ... then ill watch Juno 😂
I thought my friend was mentally ill when he told me he wanted to blind himself.
But i had to remember i should be accepting no matter what, so i told him he was stinning and brave to remove his eyes to better be in the body he identifies with.
This! 👏👏👏
100%
Apparantly millions of people are willing to gouge out there eyes according to you.
@@akshayhere lmfao "millions"
"number of gender reassignment procedures conducted in the United States each year is estimated at between 100 and 500. The number worldwide is estimated to be two to five times larger."
Nice try groomer.
@@akshayhereit’s about the same but not as bad as chopping off your boobs or penis. Now that is mental
Page seems like a sweet, yet highly nervous soul. You can still see the nerves though the interview. I hope they find rest. It starts from the inside out, not entirely the outside in.
He needs time, he's going through his second puberty, of course he's nervous and shy...
The nervous personality is because of the mental illness.
@@norijean3279
Still a she, no matter how much you want it to not be so.
@@bowieupland6112 I wonder what sort of mental disorder it is. Or if it *is* a mental disorder. It could be a physical disorder. That's a consciousness clearly not in tune with the body it's in.
She
Oh wow, he still seems very unhappy somehow…
Yes and he will transition again and the society will support him
She does
He’s still figuring out how to live! It’s been years he’s been closeted
@@H0LIIWUD
Naw, this person has bigger issues than gender. Something is definitely wrong.
Not just unhappy, he looks extremely sick and unwell
I didn’t realize about the actor/actress Juno became this person. 😱
I think because she's the only one who believes she's male. No one else sees her as "trans"
Leftist ideology creates such Frankensteins, don't they?
I have no feelings either way about Elliot's decision to transition. A person is a person is a person to me, no matter their sex, sexuality, colour, religion, whatever. Everyone deserves happiness, we all make mistakes, some of those mistakes cause us undue suffering because we thought we'd be able to handle whatever it was that came with the choice we made. In this video I don't hear Elliot blaming anyone for the suffering he went through due to his own choices, only him trying to explain the turmoil he went through due to them. I don't care enough to follow his every tweet or post so I don't know if there's a reason so many people are castigating him, but I want to reiterate: everyone deserves happiness. Money doesn't make you happy, in fact it cheapens everything. Fame doesn't make you happy, anecdotally speaking it is a double-edged sword.
I guess all I meant to say was we all seem to be sneering and discounting what he says because of irrelevant facts. I believe we should hope for happiness for all the people of the world, and if we don't contribute to that, we should, at the very least, not go out of our way to impede it and instead cause unhappiness.
Just my two cents.
I do agree that we should not go out of our way to hurt people. I also hope Elliot starts living by this as she has gone out of her way on numerous occasions to accuse people she disagrees with, on political and social issues, of being all kinds of unsavoury things re: Chris Pratt or her Jussie Smollett rant on Colbert, just to name a few.
@@GroudFrank I wasn't aware of those incidents, but I agree totally with you. It does become harder to wish happiness upon someone who is willing to attack and besmirch (sorry for the antiquated word, it just seems appropriate) people they disagree with, especially when their voice is particularly omnipresent in society and respected to a degree by their peers and the general public. Hopefully he can get his head around our view at some point soon as I am convinced it is the path of less resistance through life and is good for your mental serenity.
On a personal note, I found myself disagreeing entirely on a number of issues with people on the right that began pretty much when Trump was elected, but after a couple of arguments that got me nowhere, I started trying to see things from their point of view and instead of arguing from the outset, tried to find common ground with the person I was talking to. Being able to find the areas you agree with someone you're politically opposed to, trying to approach the conversation with empathy, and discussing calmly what it was that we disagreed upon turned out to be somewhat of an epiphany, in that I realised that if the person you're talking to knows you care about the things that bother them deeply and you're making a genuine effort to understand where they're coming from, there *is* no hostility, and you are actually able to converse in a way that makes both people feel heard and their opinions valid. There is no better way to discuss politics. Slinging insults, shouting, belittling, or in Elliot's case going on TV and vilifying people do literally nothing to advance the conversation or make progress. Nothing. All that happens is that both people defensively double down on their beliefs and views and you end up making undecided people gather around your target in unity, due to the ugliness of your own behaviour and the pity it engenders in people for the other person.
Sorry, I banged on and on a bit there. I guess the point is that you get nowhere screaming talking points into the face of people you disagree with, and having the goal of changing someone's mind is unrealistic. Empathy, understanding, patience, compassion, and a genuinely altruistic outlook can, however, broaden the view of someone and hopefully make them want to understand where you're coming from, too. Then the ability to enact change that benefits both parties becomes possible, and people are more willing to compromise. Some of the friendliest, most enjoyable and rewarding conversations I've ever had have been with people whose political views are the polar opposite of my own. Since then, I have to admit, I have become much more centrist politically as the far left and right become more and more unbearable. I find a lot of like minded people are slightly left or slightly right inclined, and are at odds with the fringes of their political party to a greater degree by the week.
Anyway, I have crapped on and on for ages, so apologies for that. Like I said earlier, my mindset now is just to try and contribute to the happiness of others, or at the least, try not to impact it negatively. A lot of people are like that nowadays, moreso than even a year or two ago, and that's great in my book.
Thanks for replying, and I don't blame you if you didn't read all of this; apologies again for the verbal diarrhoea. Take care and all the best, Frank :)
@@rageagainstmyhairline5574 You can never have a real conversation with that one person on the top. All their kind do is resort to petty arguments with no inclination to listen to the other side whilst putting personal biases in their mind. Just look at how they purposefully misgendered Elliott, that should tell you where to end the discussion. I have no respect for those who don't respect other people.
@@rageagainstmyhairline5574, very interesting and thoughtful posts. Long but worth the read. Lots to agree with.
On the subject of Paige, I've found that my greatest issue has been with Paige doing exactly as you describe, "screaming talking points into the face of people you disagree with". Have seen Paige casting horrendous aspersions on people all across the political spectrum (not purely left v right) for having complex nuanced views on extremely complex and nuanced topics. Anything that doesn't align with Paige's personal simplistic politics was cast as murderous disregard for others.
@@Pha_Kiew, way to demonstrate extreme closemindedness and naivety.
"Their kind"??? What a dehumanizing and degrading way to speak about a fellow human.
You're the only one demonstrating an inability to listen here. Not to mention showcasing blatant bias in the points you express and how you communicate them.
Fyi(although it really shouldn't need explaining to you), not every one in life shares your personal beliefs, philosophy, and world view. Many do not ascribe to the beliefs and philosophy you evidently personally subscribe to regarding gendered identities. You're not respecting them and others by demanding that your beliefs be privileged and prioritised over theirs. Why do you think they should kowtow and give primacy to your beliefs at the expense of their own? It's so unbelievably entitled of you.
I hope that Elliot now feels better in his body, but I can’t shake the feeling off that he still seems unhappy. I hope he finds whatever he’s looking for.
*she. Every last cell in her body is a she. No matter what feelings no matter what mutilation.
He is still looks unhappy because he is not.
@@nuggets4living305 her*
Ellen
@@marinaashley9995 so how come y'all are transphobic to Elliot but not other trans celebrities?
Not wanting to wear a dress doesn’t mean you’re a man. I’m a “cis” woman and I don’t feel comfortable in dresses
Agreed. Dresses suck. They restrict freedom of movement and make you more prone to tripping, especially on stairs. Useless garment
2:38 this is heartbreaking. There's a clear difference between genuine sense of freedom and deep sadness. Panic. Devastation. That "I can't believe this how could this happen to me" like holy fuck I've felt like this from coloring my fucking hair ffs
At 2:38 that's when she knew, she had f--ked up.🤷♂️
Actually this pretty disturbing
@@williammontanez-xu9hzand did he tell you his feelings personally?
@@uhronnie First it's she not he, and second, her body language says it all.
100% agree. She is miserable with her new self. She really is. I think someone or multiple people got in her head and made her think she should be a boy and now she is used by Hollywood for that stupid LGBTQPKHJFA+ agenda of them. She is clearly NOT happy and I honestly believe something sinister is going on with her and her decisions
Yeah watching Juno almost killed me too…
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Juno has always been cringey haha.
😅😂😂😂
The movie’s not that bad tbh. Definitely has corny parts tho
That scene where Juno is dragging the chair is pure cringe
Elliott took on a permanent "boys don't cry" role.
nailed it
@@northman4514 really?
@@northman4514 bruh get a life “erikson”
@@emmah1750 says the one celebrating mutilation
@@emmah1750 You go read a biology book.
I don't know what to say that hasn't been said before. I grew up in a male-dominated family and in life have often struggled; went from wearing very tomboy clothes to very feminine ones. Didn't really know who I wanted to be. Went through periods where I envied men and thought being a guy was easier, but then went through just as many times when I felt happy to be a woman. I feel like life is just hard, period. Whatever gender you are. There were times I wanted to change my body but now I feel comfortable with it. If I had to make an educated guess, it seems to me like one of the root causes of Page's suffering is gender roles in society, perhaps not necessarily his body but the role he was expected to play. I know I suffered from this too, I still do sometimes, but did not feel the need to change my gender. Perhaps for some people they literally feel like their body is the problem.
Yeah, instead of realizing it’s the people they’re around or the pressure they’re allowing to be placed on themselves or manufacturing internally they decide to cut themselves up and rot their bodies inside out because…. The problem couldn’t be their thinking or mental health. It’s GOTTA be their actual body they’ve been in their whole lives, in many cases with zero issues…. Until they hear they can just point to a made up explanation and be immediately bombarded with praise and “love” and be protected by the fellow cultists. All while pretending to get closer and closer to an unattainable them that is a figment of their imagination that they’ve convinced themselves is real and want to force everyone else to pretend it is too. I feel bad for her but she’s ultimately an adult. Great career move I’ve gotta say
@@burgato877 You just repeated a blank definition with no logical explanation.. That gender is actually decided by that person itself, based on a predisposition (psychological and physiological) built over time due to overall experiences from childhood.. one side takes over in their mind and body, the way they want to see themselves. But now a days due to so much support from the world that side is incentivised and becomes a strong force.
you can never see a rabbit shape in the clouds if you have never yourself seen a rabbit in your life. similarly a person who wants to change their gender has to have seen and had experiences with the opposite gender. Hence the external factor plays into this and the way they experienced it plus how their brain is naturally made to function.
Lord, help us 🥺
Congratulations to Elliot!! But I struggle with feeling like he’s ok. He still doesn’t look comfortable in his own skin and it looks like he’s still struggling
Maybe cause swapping your sex doesn’t fix that. But of course kids now & day think that’s a quick fix, over working out there problems.
She*
@@alaskaasmr200 Shut up
excusing the transphobic and bigoted replies above me, he may still be working out the feelings of body dysmorphia! while elliot may be more comfortable now expressing his transition through words he may still feel as though he hasnt lived up to the expectations that his mind has set up for him as dysphoria is characterized by that disconnect. it can really make people feel ill about how they see themselves
I agree.. doesn't look healthy or happy
Playing dress up doesn’t make you a man or solves your problems
Yeaaa she’s in for a rude awakening in years to come, though I doubt her life was that hard to begin with. Rich western women have deep mental health issues generally, mostly because they’ve been brainwashed to hate themselves. It’s sad really. I pity her, then I remember she’s normalizing mutilating your body and giving yourself hormones till cancer inevitably ultimately destroys your life....then I get angry. Shame.
I know giving you a nice tight rope necklace would solve my problem with you
1:31 - I highly doubt these feelings ever left "his" mind.
For everyone feeling bad they took the roles in those movies and auditioned for them. So i don't know how they can preach about a certain expectation when they chose to work it and got paid well to do so
Im sorry, but I think I would look it like a job uniform.. No one likes wearing uniforms, but you compromise for the job and pay check. People do it all the time.. If it is that big a deal, you quit 🤷🏼.. Wonder how much hate I get for that opinion.
The woke always have to play the victim it just comes naturally
I’m sure all the privilege and money was very traumatizing as well!
She should man up about the whole thing.
@@gskate117 lmao
@@gskate117 she took it literally lmao
I'm not that invested in Page's life--if transitioning will make him happy, have at it--but I would like to point out that these interview clips were from before he started hormone replacement therapy. So if he still looked "not okay," that's because he wasn't physically transitioning yet. In his more recent interviews, you can see the changes in his voice and bone structure from testosterone treatments, and he looks a lot happier and healthier.
You’re so right. My transgender sister was much happier after starting the hormone therapy that began the physical transition. To face every day in a body you’re profoundly disconnected from is awful.
If it makes them happy but I still feel that she may change her mind one day I hope she did a lot of therapy to prepare her for such a life change
Exactly, he looks in his own skin now. I'm so happy for him
@mimi his bone structure looks the same, I think it is only the testosterone
Still looks and sounds like a woman trying to be a man. Let’s be honest. That trans voice is usually unconvincing sounding like that. Most people wouldn’t think “this person was born a man” if they met Elliott.
Is internal misogyny not a thing anymore?
I’m a woman and I don’t wear dresses, my hair is short I look how I want. But don’t have the feeling my body is a problem. What happened to just being a tomboy, and be okay with that? I really don’t understand that so many people need to trans their body. You make a healthy body sick with hormones for what?
this is the point, gender and sex is a spectrum. you're on that spectrum too and that's cool, it's good. the other options are good too
It’s also reductive to the feminist movement to say, “well women have long hair and wear dresses” yet that seems to be the level of depth of most trans people. I always want to ask trans people, “what do you mean when you say you don’t feel like a man/woman? Are those feelings exclusive to that gender?” It all feels extremely shallow. I think juno has extreme depression and needed to talk to a psych, not a surgeon. Either way, I wish the best for her.
She didn’t need to change her gender. She just needed good therapy. 🤦🏻♂️
Literally do 15 minutes of research
@@fangerfry I don’t need to research anything. You either have x or y chromosomes. Anything other then that should seek help.
@@alexf9254 and if you had half a brain you would know that not everyone has xx or xy lol
@@alexf9254 XX and XY are what they teach in 8th grade bio as a generalization. If you go beyond that like with any science, it gets more complicated. Throw in some sociology and woah. It’s worth looking into - I promise
@@alexf9254 says Micheal the Phd in human genetics
“We don’t talk about Juno no no no”
No you didn't😂
This comment should be pinned.
💀
Awesome
We don’t talk about JUUUNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
But!! It was a rainy day…
It doesn't matter how many surgeries this person gets. It will never be fine, everything is on the mind. There are some traumas to handle , and many truths untold that must be heard. Hope everythings gets better for it.
Agreed. She was such a cute girl as well. Sad
Do you have an interesting and poetic way with words. I feel sympathy too, and detect deep sadness.
It's called the trauma of making millions before the age of 20...
This is really quite sad. It sounds like an identity crisis of the worst kind and Page is still struggling with that identity crisis. Trying to convince himself/herself of who or what they are could take forever. I didn’t struggle with gender identity issues but I struggled with identifying with who I am as a personality. Page still has parts of the body that are still very feminine. They will never change. Counselling would be better but no lectures from Page on what’s right or wrong.
He still doesn't look well. I wish him peace.
Unfornately pumping yourself full of male hormones isn’t really a healthy way to live
Its the latest in mental illness
@@D.A_1988 He.
She*****
He will never look well because he is really a she
I’m glad E acknowledged that women often dress the way he preferred to dress at film premiers (suits), because plenty of women do wear suits and look fantastic in them. It’s not necessarily an expression of gender identity or sexual orientation … sometimes a woman just rocks a tux. It seems clear to me that even before transitioning, Elliot looked way better in a suit than a dress.
It never is, actually. Being a woman shouldn't bind us to dressing uncomfortably.
Um. That's a very obvious. I'd say it goes without saying. But that's. It the point here.
@@anamacedo yeah. I've never heard a single woman I know who LOVES dressing feminine.. complain about being uncomfortable. Lol. You act as if women's clothes comes with spikes in the lining. Love it or hare it people. There are two genders male and female. There is masculine and there is feminine. I don't know why everyone is so intimidated by this.
@@frozencowboy6552 the more feminine I dress, the more comfortable I am. Meaning ruffles long flowing skirts comfortable tops where the statement are the big sleeves not the cleavage lol. Jeans kill me. They are cute but so uncomfortable. Don't really have an opinion on all the other stuff being discussed. I just think long skirts and flowing blouses are very comfortable 😌 most of my dresses are long and flowing too not skin tight.
@@adaabeja2061 🙂
There’s a difference between the red carpet and acting, don’t accept a role that you knew was about a girl getting pregnant and acting like it wasn’t your choice
Mental illness is a huge problem and it should not be praised but helped with professionally
Being trans is not included in the dsm5 diagnostic book. Not a mental illness according to the medical, scientific, and academic communities. Stop trying to control people's personal lives and worry about your own
Your body, your choice but being a guy is more than being shirtless just like being a woman is more than wearing cosmetics. Why must they attempt to prove their gender by embracing gender stereotypes? Ridiculous
Always an interesting discussion. My question would be: Who (aside from the very artsy/eccentric; those we'd probably see as "weird") doesn't embrace stereotypes in their day to day lives? Why are you wearing what you're wearing right now?
@@Swayzee68 Because it's comfortable. Half the people who meet me assume I'm a lesbian because of what I wear. That's their problem. Being a woman is simply being born into the reproductive class of human. Nothing more. Being a woman is not performance or decoration. Nor does lacking in femininity stop you from being a woman.
Yes, you're right that being shirtless is not what makes a man a man, and wearing makeup is not what makes a woman a woman. A woman can be shirtless, and a man can wear makeup. Some people (trans or cis) feel more comfortable conforming with gender stereotypes. Some don't - there are plenty of trans people who don't conform to gender stereotypes - the same with cis people.
That's crazy how you say these things don't matter to making you a man or woman but will do stereotypical man shit hypocrites boy I swear
@@fangerfry The danger to a whole generation of youth is using the informed consent laws to allow children without therapy or diagnosis get hormones and surgery. Elliot doesn't look happy. Those tears don't look like happy tears. He looks and sounds like someone who was unhappy and believes they will find it by altering their physical appearance. That is a bandaid. What 70 year old looks in the mirror and recognizes themselves. We are all trapped in a form we didn't choose. Our bodies are shells. Our character and our hearts are who we are. We don't need to destroy a generation's fertility before learning that lesson.
Literally an ad to buy the movie Juno below this vid. Social media is a beast.
Wow! I feel lucky to have always loved the body I was born with. Can’t even imagine feeling like this. I’m so glad he found his way and happiness. Bravo Elliot!!
Are his abs real? If so awesome effort!
She is such a pretty girl. Tragic that she mutilated her body in this way.
Btw she's not even looking like a dude now
very pretty back then
he
This is insanity
Not really
Extreme mental illness and depression is what it is.
Lol
she internalized her own homophobia that she genuinely believed she had to get surgery to be her authentic self. no one ever said girls can't wear t-shirts on the red carpet, kristen stewart does it regularly and with style
@@apseudonym Stop talking like you are him or know him tramp
If you felt ill, why did you audition for the part???
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
And a lack of scrupples obviously.
It was only a dress IAM very much into helping people with mental illnesses but if you’re going to have a meltdown over address, there’s a lot more to it
If i used to have a crush on Ellen Paige does that make me gay now that he's transitioned.
Nope, she's still a girl. Just a mutilated girl
Elliot. And yes
@@vanessaasman8047 I believe you missed the point.
Nope she's still a women it's in the DNA y'all its science
This woman went far beyond repulsion...
It's difficult enough for trans youths who aren't in the spotlight. Can't imagine how frustrating and distressing it must've been for Elliot. Glad that he's able to be who he is inside and finially feel comfortable in his own body. Blessings.
"She"
@@naisyjohnsI used to say the same thing. Now I am more compassionate and understanding.
@@emilyroseayres84 i love you admitting that ❤ it gives me hope maybe some of the people in my life well see that growth too. And, if not, at least I love myself.
@@emilyroseayres84 I didint know that denying your biology is called being compassionate and understanding. Thank you for the lesson.
@@naisyjohns exactly. This world has lost its mind
i hated being forced into girl clothes, still do, and im not trans... its hard not to assume since assumptions are a survival tactic, but we gota learn to make exceptions i guess.
You are a woman. Dress like that
go girl!!
everyone wants to be different but nobody really is, just dress whatever you comfortable in it..... so much drama for nothing.
She was not forced to be an actress…..
Lol no one cares are you pronouns phyco and narcasist
I had a crush on her, I loved her in the X-Men movies. She seemed like a really nice, quiet girl... Why would anyone mutilate themselves instead of looking for psychological help?
Any happiness from outside is temporary.
It really is not. I removed my breasts and I couldn’t be happier. My life has significantly improved since the procedure and I feel I don’t know how I would’ve kept on living had I not gotten it.
@@AHippieFrom1969 how long ago?
@@AHippieFrom1969 thats weird
@@AHippieFrom1969 it really is… give it time. It’s a lesson learned with age and wisdom.
That's why trans ppl go for what they want and don't give a fuck about transphobes. Based community
She was such a beautiful woman
?
not anymore
@@Heatseka.._ what do you mean? It s obvious she s a woman, are you blind bro?
@@betivanul01 of course shes a woman...but she mutilated herself so the beauty part is gone is what i meant
✨And now he's a beautiful man.✨
I can already feel the transphobes coming at me😌
He's literally been acting since he was a child. I feel like him knowing that he wanted to be a man since 9 had something to do with him getting into acting in the first place. He literally told his mom that he "wanted to be a boy" when he was 9. Right around that time, he started acting, only taking female roles
SHE was a 155 cm person with tits and a voice higher than steam whistle, what do you mean he only took" FEMALE" roles!? should they have casted him as rocky or rambo?
You mean she ……. That’s a girl
@@alexmeunier9553 nope. He. I'm not a disrespectful, ignorant person, like you. You're thinking of sex, not gender
Her. Female. She had a period. She is a female. She is crazy.
Since she was a child. Don’t rewrite the reality.
This is still a sad, lost, and broken person.
I don't see him broken. I think he is still struggling and it takes some time.
Oh like your head will be from your neck if you keep that shit up?
I think he seems elated and open now. Just overwhelmed with emotions and realizations. Pretty sure normies like you wouldn't really get it
Not criticizing your remark, I’m just curious what made you feel that vibe from him during this interview? I rewatched it after I read your comment and I thought the same thing I have thought of every interview I have seen with him, going all the way back to the beginning of his career…he just seems like an intensely private person who struggles to be comfortable talking about his personal life in front of the camera. Maybe I’m really bad at reading people, so I was curious what you saw. Thank you 😊
@@sgtyeesgrl8426 he’s gaunt, pale and sickly looking with a weird affect and stammering. He’s just exuding insecurity and instability. He’s gone through irreparable physical and chemical body modifications only to reduce masculinity to well-fitting menswear. My impression is that he was idealizing masculinity from a completely privileged and idealized standpoint and not that he’s got it he’s still unfulfilled.
Dear person calling yourself Elliot, you are absolutely right when it comes to fashion you should hire a consultant . The green dress really looks like a green potato bag . If someone form your work entourage selected it for you they should be fired . If having smaller breasts was making you feel diminished then a lot of men like women with smaller ones as did the person known as Ellen Page had . And finally as a film critic and art commissar it is first the talent I look at in the person and not the size.
There are some things that surgery and drugs can't change. Elliot still moves like a woman and is very feminine. It's interesting to watch. 1:01 She was so luminous and full of light. Such a lovely young woman. 1:11 Now a scarred body and looking into the camera with hollow eyes. This is absolutely frightening. Isn't there anyone around them to talk some sense to them? Absolute yikes!!
1:11 is gross af
Perhaps you shouldn't make comments when it's totally obvious, you know nothing about being transgender. It's the info age, pls get some.
This is such a crazy world. Smh
Unfortunately
It’s hilarious how all the people on here comment like they know this person personally and “could always see the sadness in her eyes”
Bunch of computer screen/smart phone therapist bullshitters!
*he*
😬😂😂
We can always change who we are, but we can never change what we are. Mascarade
You know what that means, it's time to give up on becoming a Ninja Turtle.
@@Kanoog Cowabunga to that!
She doesn’t come close to passing as a man. I feel really bad for her. Hopefully she’ll snap out of this.
omg the mentality, SHE is overdramatic with her
"I ALMOST DIED" hollywood rhetoric.
She has no idea what real sickness feels like nor does she know that no matter how much she changes her looks it will never change her genetic markers.
Ah yes, the anxiety, depression, eating disorder, and suicidal thoughts were just hollywood rhetoric. Not at all the living reality for the majority of trans youth.
He
It’s He
Thank You...my thoughts as well
THIS WORLD IS HELL.
This world is so fcked up when men think they can turn into women and women think they can turn into men while the world cheers them on. I wonder if the future generations will look back on this time and laugh at this foolishness.
Lol if this is hell for you don't look into the actual atrocities committed in recent history and ancient history.
Oh, Cool.
The world isn't hell because of starving children or abused women or the ocean acidifying or rising temperatures and floods, unprecedented homeless, folks sick of a pandemic we're constantly being told to pretend isn't still going on, the ceaseless increase in the cost of living, corporate monopoly, police murdering and harassing folk yet not bothering to save imperiled children only a few feet away, endless wars of enclosure...
It's because a man finally gets the freedom to be himself.
What hell. How awful! A man gets to express themselves authentically and feel comfortable in his own skin.
Y'all got major *issues*.
From TS Elliot to "TS" Elliot Page in one generation.
You can slip in a generation or two between Eliot (one "l") and Elliot (two "l"s).
@thursoberwick1948 three or four
It's so sad to see the tears in the end. Seems like there's lot's of healing left to do 💔
there's no healing. Can't grow ti$s back.
Healing from what
@@xXxGodFather963 Mental illness thinking shes a dude. Absolute freakshow.
Healing from all the pain & entrapment survived prior to transitioning. Trauma is stored in our memories. These memories never go away - they are always accessible. It takes time, self-compassion & self-work to heal from trauma. Doing what needs to be done to enjoy a sense of wholeness, to continually fortify our inner strength to cope with our traumatic memories & to live our lives as our true ourselves - it’s a incredibly brave journey for anyone to take on.
@@xXxGodFather963 from mental problems needs healing...she thinks she is a guy if she doesn't like dresses lol
Before his transition, I remember saying how worried I was about his appearance, and lack of just “life”, if that makes sense. Hope he is healthier now
Denying reality makes no one happy. So I highly doubt.
@@dearbrave4183 transphobic
he looks so much healthier and happy now, good for him
@@diamondrl0 he doesn't look better to me at all. I think his demons run deeper than that. Hope he gets to the point where he can be truly happy with himself some day.
@@12wer3wer9 he def looks more comfortable in his skin and of course he's still struggling, it's not like it's gonna vanish soon. But I hope for the best
Wait but....you did the audition...if you weren't comfortable doing the role why did you take it??
It wasn't about the role but about being a woman actor in Holywood. You're expected to dress the part even if Ellen didn't like it at all. So that would happen with any movie that she was succesful in (it happened with Inception too as you probably saw)
@@Alkyen nobody forced them to continue with the career they chose for themself. If what comes with fame is so traumatizing why keep doing it? I've left jobs because I wasn't treated how I expect to be treated, it's no different.
People need to stop blaming others for everything. Take responsibility for your own choices.
@@kysrei836 so don't say anything and just give up? This here is how we change a shitty situation so our kids can live better lives
@@Alkyen guess what that what actors are supposed to do , dress the part, you are acting in that movie , it’s a job, you are not the boss, nor is the movie yours for you to decide what to wear
@@francoisekaragi You know we are talking about dressing outside of the movie, right?
His role in beyond 2 souls was impecable!
She's a woman not a bloke
@@ssd3622you’re a toilet brush and nothing you can say, no matter how you feel about that, will change the fact that you’re a toilet brush.
Wow wow 😢😢 Sad days we are living in now. I'm a 110% woman, and I don't like wearing dresses 🤔🤔 The devil is a liar!
A lot of comments are saying "boo hoo get over it. You were rich and famous." But he was closeted. There is a lot of pressure that people put on you in the industry. A lot that people don't see. And when you get to the height of fame that Elliot got to for Juno you have publicists, managers, agents, directors, etc. are telling you how you should dress, act, and things you should say. There are even classes you have to take now basically etiquette classes. If you are in a film or tv show that is getting famous they train the performers on how you should act in interviews and just walking around outside of set. When you are late teens early twenties, not comfortable in your body, and closeted... it takes a toll. And a lot of times especially back in 2007ish if you even hinted at beings gay or trans it could be career ending and the people around you tell you to keep quiet. So while I understand someone saying "get over it" when you have fame and are rich...times were different back then. We are still growing from those times and finally being more accepting. Much better now then how it was back then which is why more people feel comfortable to come out. Imagine if you couldn't freely be who you wanted to be without being judged, losing your career, losing your livelihood....you would not be ok. I hope he is at peace and is finally happy.
Agreed thanks for this
its a woman. No amount of cutting flesh will change that. We all have things we wish were different about ourselves, but that doesn't mean that we can pretend that reality is different.
@@jj-bv3ui 💕💕💕
She is a woman
Disabled people experience far worse and loose jobs based on discrimination, as do people of color and women. I’m sorry, but being a millionaire complaining about wearing a dress to a red carpet that frankly no one made him put on (even if it was encouraged) is ridiculous.
Something tells me they aren't tears of joy.
They are. He was probably feeling overwhelmed thinking of all the memories and struggles he had to face or unwillingly accept back when he was known as a woman.
@@thanatos2288
Lol!!😂😂
She’s still miserable af
@@flamingo2603 not as miserable as your family will be after I'm done with you
@@flamingo2603 idk she was pretty good in the last of us :p
I loved juno and inception. I can't imagine being trapped in the wrong body that must really be difficult.
Everybody stop the press. #NOW. New Headline story of a millionaire who collapses after a breakdown from wardrobe movie premiere.... How can this atrocity happen? This poor brave person needs to be redeemed and run for president!
She/he/it/that who fucking cares. If you didn’t want the part, shouldn’t have accepted the role. 🤷🏻
I think he expressed being more at issue with the clothing forced on him by the production of promotion events and galas, more than with the roles. The roles were just acting gigs, thing is he had to keep acting in a dress on and off the set as well.
I have 3 sons and I'm losing my grip on how to prepare them for this kind of world, and I'm sorry if someone is offended but so much pain and what seems like so little cause because I don't understand this kind of experience.
Then the best you can do is to acept it for what it is and teach your kids to be nice to everyone. Kids are smart and way more cool with new things than adults are. When discussing or explaining difficult thinks, keep it simpel and objective and allow them to make there own mind.
I hope all works out.
@@derigel9783 That is the WORST advice I’ve heard. You have to be a PARENT. Be loving but firm and don’t let the whacked out liberal loons teaching schools now mis-guide your sons. This is their entire satanic plan…to de-masculine young men. DON’T let them do this to your young boys and steal their manhood. Teach them to be proud to be a man!
Imagine if you woke up tomorrow and everyone referred to you as a woman. You know you're not a woman but everyone assumes you are and expects you to behave as a woman "should". And if you ever tried to express how you felt people would deny it, or you'd be too scared because people who admit this kind of thing are bullied or even killed for it.
I hope that your kids always feel safe and themselves in this world, but the best any of us can do is be accepting and try to empathize with people going through situations we don't understand. That way your kids will feel secure in coming to you, in any situation. And if your sons have any friends who are gay or trans growing up, they'll know how to support them too.
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I’m a lesbian and this trans thing is extremely dangerous and not to be taken lightly. Guard your sons and don’t let anyone try and give you any shit for doing so please.
Just teach them to accept people no matter their differences. :) To be kind even when it's hard to understand, because frankly it has nothing to do with them. Everyone's struggle is different and what might seem little to you could mean the world to them.
For girls imagine growing up being told you have to look pretty or sexy to have value. that men won't find you attractive, and you are treated like that's the only thing that matters when you care nothing about that, are disgusted by being sexualized and catcalled, and just want to be valued for your mind. just want to get your hands dirty, or act and be seen as men do. get the same freedom to not be appearance based as men do.
Or a male, who has an affinity for fashion or art, is gentle and emotional and kind.. but gets treated like a disappointment for engaging in his passions, told to "man up" when he gets emotional, gets beat up for being feminine. imagine looking in the mirror and hating what you see.. wishing so desperately that you were born with a different chromosome so you can be the person you are inside? does that sound small?
That’s a girl 😂 Juno was her insulting women for an entire movie
1:12 As a straight female, am I supposed to be aroused or attracted to that?🤮
If you’re not attracted to Elliot you’re a bIGOt. Reeeeeee
Why wear dresses in the first place? Screw societal norms. You won't get me in a dress EVER AGAIN! If there's a public function where that is expected/required then I'm not going. I ain't wearing no suit either, because I'm not a guy. No formal wear for me. The way I dress has NOTHING to do with my sexuality, though, it's all about comfort.
You have any relatives who might be getting married soon?
Women have been wearing suits for more than half a century. And looking awesome while doing so. Paige was one of them before choosing to publicly id as a different gender.
@@fe5018 Looks so goofy lol
@@MsCwebb, no, it really doesn't. Before the name change to Elliot, woman's tailored suit was a look regularly rocked on the red carpet by Ellen Paige. Not goofy in the least.
@@fe5018 Oh no, super goofy lol
Yeah this doesn’t look like a person completely happy with her life choices…..
HIS
@@ineffablemars HER, check HER DNA. DNA never lies.
@@mynamenotgiven5717 haha do you have a degree in genetics? Lots of people don’t have either XX OR Xy
@@ineffablemars Probably someone who pretends to read the bible lol. They don't ever practice what they preach.
@@ineffablemars yeah just like lots of people don’t just have 10 toes and 10 fingers. Some have more or less. Birth defects. Most people are xx or xy. I’m sure most trans have one of the two, so your point is irrelevant.
"tears of joy"
Dude..... Sometime we can feel the joy of someone too when we see it but i feel no at all here