Zachary Levi Wall It's basicly his biggest mistake, not to mention Gang Up has only a real use in Mill Rogue, which isn't all that great.. top kek indeed
***** in face hunter pretty much any card and it will work cause its such a brain dead deck but in midrange its a lot harder to call. i cant say for sure.
The reason why the Blackwing Corruptor and Technician are so good, is because they are necessary to carry a control deck filled with dragons through early / mid game. In other words, if your deck is full of dragons, you'll need extremely powerful cards like these just to survive long enough to play your expensive minions. That said, the dragons themselves aren't that impressive. They are good because they enable Blackwing Corruptor and Technician, but they themselves aren't really gamebreaking. I get the feeling that Volcanic drake is going to sit in your hand for quite a while, and Hungry dragon is also a situational play - you don't want to give additional minions to aggro decks or decks like oil rogue and combo druid, especially if you don't have minions of your own on board already (which you probably won't). As far as legendary dragons go, they are all trumped by or, at best, equal to Ysera, and Ysera hasn't been played for a while (tho that will probably change with BRM). In the end, similar to Goblin Blastmage, Dragon Consort is probably going to be the card that pushes dragon decks into competitive territory for paladins, but I doubt other classes will be so fortunate.
Alexandre Gareau Lots of classes loose out to agro, I very much doubt that you have "built your deck better". or have I missed you winning all of the ladder?
Well exactly, so more anti agro tech would only make agro match ups better, therefore telling somebody to ' build their deck better ' fir asking for more tools against agro isnt really a fair comment
You seem to have a very poor understanding of how a Control deck works, I'm not making it an argument, just ponting out how unhelpful your comment was...
Is the sound completely out of sync in this video for everyone else? I've been noticing sound going out of sync on youtube videos a lot recently and I can't tell if it's just youtube or the uploaders causing the issue (or somehow my PC making only some videos go out of sync with the sound).
Sadly it deserves it. Unless you can build a super slow Rogue deck that goes to fatigue basically every time and play the control game and can withstand the aggro/tempo-ish meta you are not guaranteed to draw the cards, therefor the card can completely whiff, pretty often actually. Therefor a 2 mana 1/2 dagger is just strictly better, especially since that does not cost you a card.
Very interesting views. You shed some light on the potential for some cards (e.g. revenge) that I never considered. Can't wait to see what decks you and the other pros come up with. btw, my bet is Emperor Thaurissan get's hit with the Pagel nerf 2 weeks after it's released.
hey reynaldo thanks for making this, but i kind of disagree with your analysis of gang up.. it has potential in a mill deck if you gang up a coldlight you can mill them really easily since the problem with mill rogue is that if their coldlights are removed they can't win anymore
***** I'm sure Fatigue Rogue is a perfectly viable deck in rank 23. Unfortunately if that's your kinda thing you might not wanna watch a video focused on competitive deck building.
I think the old Miracle Rogue can be viable again with Emperor Thaurissan. There are a lot of games as Miracle Rogue where you usually end up sitting on a Leeroy or Auctioneer in your hand so if you play this; those triple Shadowstep Leeroys that everybody absolutely loved are now back and Auctioneer is now fast enough to draw out your entire deck again if it gets hit by this card.
Paladin turn 5 Dragon Consort, Turn 6 Chromaggus. Seems pretty legit to me! I know Reynad covered this when he talked about how great Dragon Consort was going to be but still, seems really powerful as a turn 5/turn 6 set up.
when making any evaluation of how midrange-control decks will play out try to remember that after turn 6 Emperor it suddenly is a whole different story.
Dragon Paladin with Concort, Cromaggus, Thaurissan and Muster for Battle will be so incrdibly powerful. but the first deck I'm gonna build is gonna be control warrior with Warsong Commanders, Grim Patrons and Executus ^_^
People are complaining about the Gang-up which can be awesome even in some controlish archetype. With this new dwarf rogue can remove some removals such as backstab and maybe one flurry and go more controlish. So u put one gang up and u have sylvanas. I dont say that it will be the best, but sure offers diversity and its pretty funny and it can be viable even in tournaments.
I'd rather think of Chromaggus like Ysera. Has to live to be efficient, has decent stats, a fill your hand with stuff. Chromaggus can be played earlier, and gets better synergy if you have spells that make you draw cards, or the 1/3 that make you draw whenever he gets hit... Ysera is on her own, whereas Chromaggus can have synergy. And it's insane if you draw your removal, charge minions or Word of : Shield.
I knew that mill rogue would be stupid with gang up, giving them that too would make it even more insane. Its useless in any other rogue deck mostly, but op in mill. I think they need to change the card a lot if they wanna make it useful in other decks, but theyll probably just buzzard it and make it 5 mana or something overkill and ruin the card completely.
Shaman would be better if the summon wasn't rnadom but if it cycled throught the 4 choices (1/1 0/2 Taunt, 0/2 Heal, 0/2 Spell Damage). So you will know what you'll get and play with it. Or if you could have card that make your next totem automatically 0/2 Taunt for example... it would create so much synergy !
I think big game hunter might not even a concern for rend blackhand. This is gonna sound weird because obviously bgh kills it and your opponent just got alot of tempo. But if we imagine a world in which rend blackhand would be played in the first place it would be in a very slow control heavy meta. (which will arrive the same day hunter is removed from the game i know) But in that type of meta your deck could also see cards like alexstrasza, nefarian, maybe baron, ragnaros alongside some of the 7+ attack class legendaries like neptulon, malolrne, mal ganis (handlock ofcourse already having giants) If that's your deck and your both just going for the pure out value Then you would be happy if your opponent bgh'ed a rend just like you used to be happy if your opponent used his hex/polymorph too early way back when. Because rend would be the easiest to remove without a bgh 7+ attack card in your deck. And your holding it untill the turn after your opponent plays ysera or chromaggus or something of the sort which they just spend the entire turn playing which might mean they don't have a board after you kill it. Ofcourse this situation would require control to be so incredibly overpowered that even if you know your opponent is playing such a deck you would still rather play a control deck against it as opposed to anything else. 15 min no rush
I see cromaggus in paladin, a lot, like, you play consorte dragon, next turn you play this, and even if you dont get to use the effect because they used a remooval, well, they used a remooval, and now they possibly don´t have any other remooval for sylvannas or tirion or other legendary dragons
i kinda disagree with your idea of solum vigil. the deck runs accolite sometimes and there is no way to activate it well but that card can draw you into answers
He said he would never play Druid of the fang because it is trash even if it came out with the buff every time, a 5 mana 7/7 but then he says a 5 mana 5/5 is pretty good at 33:50 . -Kappa
WAIT, dragon consort DOESN'T say "the next dragon you play this turn" it says "the next dragon you play", so turn 5 dragon consort into turn 6 chromaggus OP OP
TheNietzschian Alex only fit a select few decks: A) those that are extreme control and won't be doing any face damage until they have a certain mana threshold and/or card combo in hand and B) those that can benefit from the heal consistently. with useful heal like Healbot, I'd say B) only really works for handlock and freeze mage, though you often want to alex the oponent in freeze mage.
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8 fucking years ago. Time flies.
He actually gave Grim Patron a good review, there weren't many that gave it a good review
You can either like or dislike Reynad.
But the guy clearly has a great vision of the game, and we got to give him credit for that.
DarkLeviathan8 He said Gang Up would never get any play for any reason. Top kek.
Zachary Levi Wall It's basicly his biggest mistake, not to mention Gang Up has only a real use in Mill Rogue, which isn't all that great.. top kek indeed
I use gang up in aggro rouge and it works.Also mill rouge is fairly strong as you cannot go anything against it.
Nice sync bud
360p is fine.
***** That's youtube bro, takes awhile.
***** planets align every 7 million years sodo audio
1928374655647382 sync as in voice and the video of him talking don't match
***** I am seeing no issue. 1080p
druid of the flame: the official "fuck you" to the magma rager
When are they going to change that god damn magma rager
Harry Blum Poor magma rager needs buff. 3 mana 4/2. Oh wait...
CHRLPTRSN 10/10 rogue stealth combo deck.
Lol, have you seen the new 4 mana 5/4 taunt?
Hold on a second...
+CHRLPTRSN Ez Defender of argus plays. I can see it now.
Double defender into backstab into double cold blood into double prep evis for 28 damage.
This is one of the harder videos to evaluate Kappa
"Every spell has charge", what about corruption? :^)
"Kinda change"
Syndetic all secrets
-Wouldn't play Drakonid Crusher even if it was a 9/9 everytime
-Would play Fel Reaver for an 8/8 even if it burns cards everytime...
REE-SURECT. Reinventing the english language now andre?
Archdemon every time he said it i just looked away
Re rekt
He also calls "niche" "nitch" for some reason
tmujir955 www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/niche
"nitch"
maybe you're the one that needs to correct yo language brah!
no its re-su-rect
What would you take out of the current Hunter decks to include Quick Shot?
Anything without charge?
***** in face hunter pretty much any card and it will work cause its such a brain dead deck but in midrange its a lot harder to call. i cant say for sure.
One Owl one Zooka for face
Abusive and Glaive imo
april fools, these aren't his actual opinions of the cards.
27:50 It's FlameWAKER, not walker, walking on fire is crazy.
Audio is out of sync much of the time but overall a great video - I think you were spot on for most of it
Except for Gang-Up lol
The Steam Stream! Im not rly a fan of mill, but thats prob the only thing I disagreed on.
I now want a video with a 30 minute discussion on card velocity. Nice video and rundown.
"Gang Up will never see any play for any reason."
Every mill rogue ever begs to disagree.
You literally just enforced his point.
I wonder if dragon Kim sorcerer would be good in priest now
2022 ✌️
The reason why the Blackwing Corruptor and Technician are so good, is because they are necessary to carry a control deck filled with dragons through early / mid game. In other words, if your deck is full of dragons, you'll need extremely powerful cards like these just to survive long enough to play your expensive minions.
That said, the dragons themselves aren't that impressive. They are good because they enable Blackwing Corruptor and Technician, but they themselves aren't really gamebreaking. I get the feeling that Volcanic drake is going to sit in your hand for quite a while, and Hungry dragon is also a situational play - you don't want to give additional minions to aggro decks or decks like oil rogue and combo druid, especially if you don't have minions of your own on board already (which you probably won't).
As far as legendary dragons go, they are all trumped by or, at best, equal to Ysera, and Ysera hasn't been played for a while (tho that will probably change with BRM).
In the end, similar to Goblin Blastmage, Dragon Consort is probably going to be the card that pushes dragon decks into competitive territory for paladins, but I doubt other classes will be so fortunate.
12:33 ...Whatever you say, Reynad. All the Mill Rogues honestly are probably just laughing at this right now.
nice video and all but whos the guy on the left plappering without interruption with no sound on?
"Rogue will be the most popular class" lmao
I wish dark iron skulker was neutral. We need some neutral anti-aggro tech.
It would be so op though, you could play equality into skulker, or poison seeds into skulker, or skulker into execute or similar for amazing combos.
Alexandre Gareau Lots of classes loose out to agro, I very much doubt that you have "built your deck better". or have I missed you winning all of the ladder?
Well exactly, so more anti agro tech would only make agro match ups better, therefore telling somebody to ' build their deck better ' fir asking for more tools against agro isnt really a fair comment
You seem to have a very poor understanding of how a Control deck works,
I'm not making it an argument, just ponting out how unhelpful your comment was...
Having played against the card now, it is crazy good against hunter shaman paladin ect...
Is the sound completely out of sync in this video for everyone else? I've been noticing sound going out of sync on youtube videos a lot recently and I can't tell if it's just youtube or the uploaders causing the issue (or somehow my PC making only some videos go out of sync with the sound).
Such hate for Gang Up.
Sadly it deserves it. Unless you can build a super slow Rogue deck that goes to fatigue basically every time and play the control game and can withstand the aggro/tempo-ish meta you are not guaranteed to draw the cards, therefor the card can completely whiff, pretty often actually. Therefor a 2 mana 1/2 dagger is just strictly better, especially since that does not cost you a card.
Grimscale oracle Gang up op
You never annoy me, Reynad.
Does Flamewaker work with Spell damage +1 cards?
Nope
spent less than 2 seconds on the card that brought back mill rogue. seems legit
Very interesting views. You shed some light on the potential for some cards (e.g. revenge) that I never considered. Can't wait to see what decks you and the other pros come up with. btw, my bet is Emperor Thaurissan get's hit with the Pagel nerf 2 weeks after it's released.
hey reynaldo thanks for making this, but i kind of disagree with your analysis of gang up.. it has potential in a mill deck if you gang up a coldlight you can mill them really easily since the problem with mill rogue is that if their coldlights are removed they can't win anymore
Yeah because mill rouge is so viable...
***** can't people make fun decks? Kappa
***** I'm sure Fatigue Rogue is a perfectly viable deck in rank 23. Unfortunately if that's your kinda thing you might not wanna watch a video focused on competitive deck building.
bluekhanel PJSalt
*****
YOU WERE RIGHT! You are a God! Praise DylennisWoW, the meta reader! #thisguyisfuckingnuts
I think the old Miracle Rogue can be viable again with Emperor Thaurissan. There are a lot of games as Miracle Rogue where you usually end up sitting on a Leeroy or Auctioneer in your hand so if you play this; those triple Shadowstep Leeroys that everybody absolutely loved are now back and Auctioneer is now fast enough to draw out your entire deck again if it gets hit by this card.
What is your opinion on the new Bane of Doom. Its basically a new card at this point.
Paladin turn 5 Dragon Consort, Turn 6 Chromaggus. Seems pretty legit to me! I know Reynad covered this when he talked about how great Dragon Consort was going to be but still, seems really powerful as a turn 5/turn 6 set up.
Dragonkin Sorcerer is stupidly good in paladin decks. Blessing of Wisdom + Divine Shield and also Kings and Might are ridiculous. Love it.
when making any evaluation of how midrange-control decks will play out try to remember that after turn 6 Emperor it suddenly is a whole different story.
Thanks for the review. It was distracting that the sound was out of sync.
Why is gang up bad? Is it the failure for immediate? You can get so much value if you gang up a good minion
How is a 7/7 for 5 mana not a good thing? How much value would you want from a card at 5 mana
It doesn't affect the game enough to be worth a deck slot
what do you think will happen if you play dark iron skulker against a grim patron, that would fill up your opponents board with 3-1s
Dragon Paladin with Concort, Cromaggus, Thaurissan and Muster for Battle will be so incrdibly powerful.
but the first deck I'm gonna build is gonna be control warrior with Warsong Commanders, Grim Patrons and Executus ^_^
Arrakiz666 Warsong Commander and Grim Patron sounds great, but why Executus?!
bjoernen bjoern For lolz?
+bjoernen bjoern oh boy you were right
19:55 Face warrior would never be a thing LUL
12:36 And now I bet he regrets that decision.
The Video is out of Sync, please fix....
How does Chromoggus interact with life tap?
'maybe theyre trying to buff hemet'
i fuckin lost it
People are complaining about the Gang-up which can be awesome even in some controlish archetype. With this new dwarf rogue can remove some removals such as backstab and maybe one flurry and go more controlish. So u put one gang up and u have sylvanas. I dont say that it will be the best, but sure offers diversity and its pretty funny and it can be viable even in tournaments.
I'd rather think of Chromaggus like Ysera. Has to live to be efficient, has decent stats, a fill your hand with stuff. Chromaggus can be played earlier, and gets better synergy if you have spells that make you draw cards, or the 1/3 that make you draw whenever he gets hit... Ysera is on her own, whereas Chromaggus can have synergy. And it's insane if you draw your removal, charge minions or Word of : Shield.
24:20 whats about shadow word: pain?
I'd agree with most if not all of the evaluations, very good review
Shame about the audio synch but that's a minor nitpick
Blackwing Corruptor kills Piloted Shredder the turn after shredder is played, fucking insane PogChamp
Blizzard should add: "Draw a Card" to Gang Up, then it would be actually playable.
Lololololol its going to get nerfed
I knew that mill rogue would be stupid with gang up, giving them that too would make it even more insane. Its useless in any other rogue deck mostly, but op in mill. I think they need to change the card a lot if they wanna make it useful in other decks, but theyll probably just buzzard it and make it 5 mana or something overkill and ruin the card completely.
Lord Slime no it would be a buff because you dont gang up and mill on the same turn so its just free card draw
minimega10 i sure hope not gang rouge is my favorite atm because its so fun to play
tip: dont use avenging wrath when the enemy has a grim patron on the board
Anyone else watching in 2018 and feeling old?
Guess what
2022 is making me feel a little old
So old :(
If they would make twilight whelp - bcry: for every dragon in ur hand gain 1 health would that make any difference?
Iy would make it worse
if you use poison seeds and srarfall lumberer is good in that sicuation couse its board presonts for free
People are saying negation will get bgh but that's what they all said about Dr boom, the battle cries are what made them OP
Shaman would be better if the summon wasn't rnadom but if it cycled throught the 4 choices (1/1 0/2 Taunt, 0/2 Heal, 0/2 Spell Damage). So you will know what you'll get and play with it.
Or if you could have card that make your next totem automatically 0/2 Taunt for example... it would create so much synergy !
finally the boss makes an appearance.
Perfect sound sync
I think big game hunter might not even a concern for rend blackhand.
This is gonna sound weird because obviously bgh kills it and your opponent just got alot of tempo.
But if we imagine a world in which rend blackhand would be played in the first place
it would be in a very slow control heavy meta. (which will arrive the same day hunter is removed from the game i know)
But in that type of meta your deck could also see cards like alexstrasza, nefarian, maybe baron, ragnaros alongside some of the 7+ attack class legendaries like neptulon, malolrne, mal ganis (handlock ofcourse already having giants)
If that's your deck and your both just going for the pure out value
Then you would be happy if your opponent bgh'ed a rend just like you used to be happy if your opponent used his hex/polymorph too early way back when.
Because rend would be the easiest to remove without a bgh 7+ attack card in your deck.
And your holding it untill the turn after your opponent plays ysera or chromaggus or something of the sort which they just spend the entire turn playing which might mean they don't have a board after you kill it.
Ofcourse this situation would require control to be so incredibly overpowered that even if you know your opponent is playing such a deck you would still rather play a control deck against it as opposed to anything else.
15 min no rush
i would have liked nefarian's skill to be steal 1 spell from you opponents deck and maybe 8/7
Tundra Rhino + Core Rager finisher?
That is 9 damage for 9 mana, which is not very good for a fast deck like facehunter
Grim Patrol is gonna rock in warrior combo deck
You were correct, sir.
About Solemn Vigil, anyfin can happen.
No more Zoo... RIP IN PEACE Cancerlock
I'm looking forward to turn five dragon consort turn 6 chromaggus (:
I see cromaggus in paladin, a lot, like, you play consorte dragon, next turn you play this, and even if you dont get to use the effect because they used a remooval, well, they used a remooval, and now they possibly don´t have any other remooval for sylvannas or tirion or other legendary dragons
Not to mention you can still drop a Truesilver/ Concecrate if you're at 10.
gang up is good on mill rogue , i agree on anything else
"face warrior never gonna be a thing again" heh
aaaand I subscribed - good comprehensive video. like
On Chromaggus, "Most of the reason you play it is stats" Yes, I play Thalnos for that value of 1/1
He meant it doesnt instantly lose to bgh
He meant it doesnt instantly lose to bgh
He meant it doesnt instantly lose to bgh
i kinda disagree with your idea of solum vigil. the deck runs accolite sometimes and there is no way to activate it well but that card can draw you into answers
Nice, learned a lot!
Rend should be a 6 cost 6-4 that summons a 1-3 dragon with taunt on death.
In the original ubrs he hits hard, dies easily and has a pointless drake.
dragons breath = anti nerub egg after nova doomsayer?
Rend Blackhand is so underratted! come on its awesome against tyrion
Good vid reynoodle
I wanna video where Reynad gets rekt by Ragnaros hero. Or Majordomo Executus.
funny enough, warlocks the class for dragon decks in malylock lol
I think Mal'ganis, Implosion, and Imp Gang Boss will be a thing, he deck almost makes itself.
Gang up is insane in mill rogue.
Song name?
so many good stuff die to BGH
there might just be not enough BGH to kill all of them
I personally think Rend is good enough
Zimu Zhang it's just a worse bgh, most legendaries you need help to kill have atleast 7 attack anyway, only a few that don't
***** and the ones that dont you dont want to rend black hand because its stuff like thalnos, sylvanas, etc.
Gralof Gaming exactly
gang up + coldlight oracle + mill rogue = ez game
Probably should have synced the audio before you uploaded this.
Rip magma rager outclassed by Druid of the flame ;(
Dont you think the egg would be good with Priest? You're forgetting the buffs.
He said he would never play Druid of the fang because it is trash even if it came out with the buff every time, a 5 mana 7/7 but then he says a 5 mana 5/5 is pretty good at 33:50 .
-Kappa
lol when he said gang up is shit and will never be see in a play XD
2023
WAIT, dragon consort DOESN'T say "the next dragon you play this turn" it says "the next dragon you play", so turn 5 dragon consort into turn 6 chromaggus OP OP
Every spell has charge, ... except for corruption^^
poor corruption... the only spell without charge
Emperor Thor-ee-sun
LOL
gang up = mill rogue
i cry ever tim
dududududu
is alex not going to be included over cromagus ?
TheNietzschian Alex only fit a select few decks: A) those that are extreme control and won't be doing any face damage until they have a certain mana threshold and/or card combo in hand and B) those that can benefit from the heal consistently. with useful heal like Healbot, I'd say B) only really works for handlock and freeze mage, though you often want to alex the oponent in freeze mage.
bgh such a fun card
I hope Blizzard got some new "dragon sounds" for the expansion...I don't want more cards making the same sounds like twilight drake and azure drake
LOVED IT THANKS
dat rambling