UPDATE for 10 degrees to -10 degrees: Wear multiple active mid layers! two or even three jackets/sweaters will allow you to stay warm WITHOUT sweating since you can easily remove layers if you get too hot. (reminder no cotton) Protect your face! A balaclava, scarf, neck gaiter, or even ski goggles will help prevent heat from escaping, especially with the extremely cold wind. ANY skin exposed on your body will severely reduce your core temperature Do not forget leg layers! Jeans will not cut it... Wear sweatpants or multiple if you have to (active mid layers). And absolutely do not forget a shell layer. This layer keeps the cold wind from sapping all the heat from your legs. Materials that will work best as a shell are tightly woven synthetics like nylon
Yeah, that's super easy and I do it all the time. But the downside is if you get too hot and start sweating you have few options to stop it. So I only use a puffy like that for very short trips outside
@@StephenOutside I just unzip the jacket for ventilation. Or take it off. Simple. I'll always trek without wearing a jacket in winter. When stationary during severe winter storms of rain, hail or snow, on goes the waterproof/breathable expedition goose jacket. Down pants are worn during severe cold 🥶, otherwise just a pair of thin layer stretch pants. During high excursion mountain trekking I prefer to wear just thin shirt. In the pack I'll carry a lighter weight down jacket plus goretex jacket to cope with heavy winds or rainstorms on the peaks.
Wait, you do mountaineering without an Active Layer!? I'm glad it's working out for you, but that seems super risky to me. If the down gets wet it can put you in a really bad situation. Stay safe!
@@StephenOutside Don't be daft. The down doesn't get wet. During winter I use the Rab Summit Batura 800 goose down jacket. It will withstand any weather chucked at it no matter how low the temperatures or wind chill factor, through snow❄️ or extreme winds. Even during prolonged 60mph winds and pelting icy rain it is not a problem. If I'm using my ultra lightweight Mountain Equipment Senja, it will withstand short showers, sleet and snow without a problem. If It's extreme high winds and prolonged rainstorms, then I'll chuck a North Face Summit Mountain Guide goretex jacket over the top. I also sleep on top of the mountains during winter storms without a bivvy or tent. I simply chuck my goose down expedition sleeping bag on the downmat. Snow, sleet or rain is not a problem for the sleeping bag.
Always a mesh merino base layer (Brynje), nothing else comes close. Followed by merino top or Arthur beale wool jumper... Waxed Anorak (Fjallraven No.8) as top layer. Forget the technical Goretex, wind stoppers etc, nothing I've found when hiking in UK keeps you dry all day, whether that be rain or sweat. it's all about keeping warm when moving and when still. No.8 might wet out even when waxed but wet doesn't get past jumper. This is also a very breathable setup so sweat won't get you cold.
I use a really thin sports shirt as my base layer, then either a fleece or an insulating synthetic jacket. My shell is just a jacket that I wax to waterproof. The insulating jacket is thin, but that's ok because I can just add the fleece if needed, although it rarely is. I live in the UK so it's mostly about staying dry rather than warm.
When sleeping in cold weather bring a male urinal you can buy at the drugstore. Cold makes you pee more. Holding your pee all night will give you a terrible sleep. Better to pee in the bottle and take it out of the sleeping bag. Opening the bag to get up and pee will release a ton of heat and it will take a long time to rebuild it when you get back into the bag. It took many nights of experimentation to figure this all out.
started switching away from cotton and wool knits for fleeces. Way easier to take care of, doesn't lose shape, and cheaper. been thinking to buy a soft shell as the shell layer. like the gamma MX
Yeah fleeces are great!! My only problem is dog hair sticks to some fleece jackets like crazy haha, so I have to choose wisely. And nice, that looks like an amazing shell layer!
Merino is crazy expensive! The only time I think it's worth the cost is if you'll be wearing it for a few days without washing (backpacking, ski-packing etc.)
Yeah the clips used to come off all the time, but I found good spots for them and they've been there for a while now. Maybe someday I'll sew them on, I hadn't thought of that
Yeah I wonder, this got me curious so I looked it up lol. People in the 1800s wore several mid layers made of wool, flannel, or fur. Shell layers included hooded capes, great coats, and cloaks. Then mittens, scarves, and ear muffs, but also blankets and umbrellas if they were in a carriage. So not a ton has changed hahah
8,000,000,000 points for the chart. I’ve been trying to make 2. 1 for active and one for sleep. It is not as easy as people think unless you have a walk in cooler in your house and it is important to know your comfort level, not the advertised or suggested norms. Great work.
Yeah thanks! It took me a winter or two to put it together and a lot of edits until I got it right for myself. I'm glad other people are finding it useful too!
Bamboo makes for a great base layer! I would be cautious about "bamboo cotton" though since it could be part bamboo part cotton which would be bad. Make sure there is little to no cotton % in the materials
My current favorite layers: Base layer: Patagonia Capilene shirt and pants Active layer: Patagonia R1 Thermal layer: Patagonia Down Sweater Shell layer: Super old rain jacket from Eddie Bauer (not even waterproof anymore) and secondhand soft shell ski pants. I don't buy new clothes unless I need to, and when I do, I try to buy Patagonia cause I believe in what they do. Not sponsored but damn would that be cool 😎
I’ve yet to test my gear on a snowy winter hike. So far my city has reached temps between 40° - 30° and a combo of thermal+ hiking pants have done well for me, as for my top I use a thermal long sleeve+ primaloft vest+ gore-tex shell and it works well enough. I’m also investing in some gloves and have a packable puffer on the way for those snowy days to come. Very excited to see how they handle the cold!
I had a ton of fun testing out gear and creating that chart! Finding the boundary temperatures for clothing was kinda funny because my goal was to be slightly too cold or slightly too warm. Sounds like solid layers though!
UPDATE for 10 degrees to -10 degrees:
Wear multiple active mid layers! two or even three jackets/sweaters will allow you to stay warm WITHOUT sweating since you can easily remove layers if you get too hot. (reminder no cotton)
Protect your face! A balaclava, scarf, neck gaiter, or even ski goggles will help prevent heat from escaping, especially with the extremely cold wind. ANY skin exposed on your body will severely reduce your core temperature
Do not forget leg layers! Jeans will not cut it... Wear sweatpants or multiple if you have to (active mid layers). And absolutely do not forget a shell layer. This layer keeps the cold wind from sapping all the heat from your legs. Materials that will work best as a shell are tightly woven synthetics like nylon
I prefer not to multi-layer clothing and simply wear a down jacket over a very thin shirt.
Yeah, that's super easy and I do it all the time. But the downside is if you get too hot and start sweating you have few options to stop it. So I only use a puffy like that for very short trips outside
@@StephenOutside I just unzip the jacket for ventilation. Or take it off. Simple. I'll always trek without wearing a jacket in winter. When stationary during severe winter storms of rain, hail or snow, on goes the waterproof/breathable expedition goose jacket. Down pants are worn during severe cold 🥶, otherwise just a pair of thin layer stretch pants. During high excursion mountain trekking I prefer to wear just thin shirt. In the pack I'll carry a lighter weight down jacket plus goretex jacket to cope with heavy winds or rainstorms on the peaks.
Wait, you do mountaineering without an Active Layer!? I'm glad it's working out for you, but that seems super risky to me. If the down gets wet it can put you in a really bad situation. Stay safe!
@@StephenOutside Don't be daft. The down doesn't get wet. During winter I use the Rab Summit Batura 800 goose down jacket. It will withstand any weather chucked at it no matter how low the temperatures or wind chill factor, through snow❄️ or extreme winds. Even during prolonged 60mph winds and pelting icy rain it is not a problem.
If I'm using my ultra lightweight Mountain Equipment Senja, it will withstand short showers, sleet and snow without a problem. If It's extreme high winds and prolonged rainstorms, then I'll chuck a North Face Summit Mountain Guide goretex jacket over the top.
I also sleep on top of the mountains during winter storms without a bivvy or tent. I simply chuck my goose down expedition sleeping bag on the downmat. Snow, sleet or rain is not a problem for the sleeping bag.
Really good explanation, good job Stephen. Upvoting.
Always a mesh merino base layer (Brynje), nothing else comes close. Followed by merino top or Arthur beale wool jumper... Waxed Anorak (Fjallraven No.8) as top layer. Forget the technical Goretex, wind stoppers etc, nothing I've found when hiking in UK keeps you dry all day, whether that be rain or sweat. it's all about keeping warm when moving and when still. No.8 might wet out even when waxed but wet doesn't get past jumper. This is also a very breathable setup so sweat won't get you cold.
@@fatherdamo2 Looks like an awesome setup. I've heard a lot about mesh base layers although I've never tried them. Thanks for sharing!
I use a really thin sports shirt as my base layer, then either a fleece or an insulating synthetic jacket. My shell is just a jacket that I wax to waterproof. The insulating jacket is thin, but that's ok because I can just add the fleece if needed, although it rarely is. I live in the UK so it's mostly about staying dry rather than warm.
Oh awesome, that sounds like a great setup!
Wool is so delicate.
I guess it could be, but high quality wool is pretty solid. If you add a shell layer on top it'll be really protected.
When sleeping in cold weather bring a male urinal you can buy at the drugstore. Cold makes you pee more. Holding your pee all night will give you a terrible sleep. Better to pee in the bottle and take it out of the sleeping bag. Opening the bag to get up and pee will release a ton of heat and it will take a long time to rebuild it when you get back into the bag. It took many nights of experimentation to figure this all out.
2:10 more loose layers will allow for more air pockets acting as insulation working against your thermal regulation, methinks
Layers and layers and layers and layers...👁️👄👁️
started switching away from cotton and wool knits for fleeces. Way easier to take care of, doesn't lose shape, and cheaper. been thinking to buy a soft shell as the shell layer. like the gamma MX
Yeah fleeces are great!! My only problem is dog hair sticks to some fleece jackets like crazy haha, so I have to choose wisely.
And nice, that looks like an amazing shell layer!
Very nice
You can buy a synthetic base for every day of the month for 3 merino wool basses!!!!!
Merino is crazy expensive! The only time I think it's worth the cost is if you'll be wearing it for a few days without washing (backpacking, ski-packing etc.)
ok thumbs up for suspenders, but be cool and learn to sew some buttons into your snow pants and get some button suspenders from thrift stores
Yeah the clips used to come off all the time, but I found good spots for them and they've been there for a while now. Maybe someday I'll sew them on, I hadn't thought of that
Thanks for sharing, so helpful!
Any chance you’re willing to share that spreadsheet?
Of course! Here it is
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_TKXszf33AesnJJqiZedHRCnejbmwOHpf2t_KTdq8e0/
@@StephenOutside muchas gracias!
Hard land down jacket $78!!!
you didn't talk feet at all, you must be talking mild winters
Good job. But unfortunately, it is not enough for minus 10 degrees.
Yeah I agree, this weekend is crazy weather. I'll put together an additional list and pin it to this video!
I wonder if John Muir, Teddy Roosevelt or Ansel Adams ever thought about this that deep
Yeah I wonder, this got me curious so I looked it up lol. People in the 1800s wore several mid layers made of wool, flannel, or fur. Shell layers included hooded capes, great coats, and cloaks. Then mittens, scarves, and ear muffs, but also blankets and umbrellas if they were in a carriage. So not a ton has changed hahah
They were too busy fighting demons, syphilis, and consumption.
8,000,000,000 points for the chart. I’ve been trying to make 2. 1 for active and one for sleep. It is not as easy as people think unless you have a walk in cooler in your house and it is important to know your comfort level, not the advertised or suggested norms. Great work.
Yeah thanks! It took me a winter or two to put it together and a lot of edits until I got it right for myself. I'm glad other people are finding it useful too!
Bamboo is okay as based layer right? They call it bamboo cotton so is it still cotton?
Bamboo makes for a great base layer! I would be cautious about "bamboo cotton" though since it could be part bamboo part cotton which would be bad. Make sure there is little to no cotton % in the materials
can you share that google slides? would be very helpful :)
Here's the chart, I hope it helps!
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_TKXszf33AesnJJqiZedHRCnejbmwOHpf2t_KTdq8e0/
What’s with the hat indoors???
Messy hair + hat I like = hat in every video
Sweet sweet boy, you haven't heard of mesh baselayers yet. Loop up Brynje.
Lmao, yeah they're not popular in the US yet. I've seen them used for Ultralight Backpacking but they're still very fringe right now
If you have a favorite jacket that you love, leave a comment below with what it is!
Patagonia R1 air , tnf ventrix as active layers
My current favorite layers:
Base layer: Patagonia Capilene shirt and pants
Active layer: Patagonia R1
Thermal layer: Patagonia Down Sweater
Shell layer: Super old rain jacket from Eddie Bauer (not even waterproof anymore) and secondhand soft shell ski pants.
I don't buy new clothes unless I need to, and when I do, I try to buy Patagonia cause I believe in what they do. Not sponsored but damn would that be cool 😎
Very concise and informative video. Can't believe this was only published 10 days ago! ❤
I’ve yet to test my gear on a snowy winter hike. So far my city has reached temps between 40° - 30° and a combo of thermal+ hiking pants have done well for me, as for my top I use a thermal long sleeve+ primaloft vest+ gore-tex shell and it works well enough. I’m also investing in some gloves and have a packable puffer on the way for those snowy days to come. Very excited to see how they handle the cold!
I had a ton of fun testing out gear and creating that chart! Finding the boundary temperatures for clothing was kinda funny because my goal was to be slightly too cold or slightly too warm.
Sounds like solid layers though!