Dodge Journey: No Start, No Crank
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In this video I have a look at a 2015 Dodge Journey that was towed in for a no crank condition. The power of visual inspection comes through strong in this video. Aftermarket add on junk strikes again! -Enjoy!
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*UPDATE:* The customer stopped back a few days later and we installed the OEM antenna on the roof so it would solve the issues with the wet headliner. He bought the car in the condition it was in, back up camera and baby shark fin were all ready on there. He did not want to do any further testing with the internal key detection antenna's at this time
Hopefully he asked you to pull that silly cow catcher off the back too!
Just curious you disconnected the aftermarket feed wire at the backend wouldn't it be better to disconnect at the feed just incase it rubs through elsewhere .
the aftermarket crap ends up being the eBay aftermarket crap and it just goes bad after a couple months or the rubber seals go bad
@@190055joe the video feed runs all the way to the front. The power is tapped of that module in the back. He cut the power wire and the video feed is now dead because of it. So it doesn't really matter if it rubs through, because there is no voltage on it anyway
Thanks for your very informative videos. Your patience with wiring and troubleshooting is amazing. You take the time to find the source of a problem. That's inspiring and auto mechanics everywhere should follow your example. Keep up the great work and your videos.
....."But the tech who installed the back-up camera attended our 3 hour training class to get certified. That is what makes it your best buy."
all apprentices only need watch the SMA channel
I do all of my own installations of aftermarket equipment (amateur radio) etc. Watching your videos has greatly changed the way I do installs. Abrasion resistant loom, proper connectors, separate fuse blocks, no vampire connectors. Thanks for the insights into the problems poor installations cause for repair shops.
I had to look up what a vampire connector is, and it looks like a legitimate connector for repairs or aftermarket installs, what is wrong with them?
This is the first time I learned of vampire connectors, thought you meant like just twisted together wires or some shit.
@@ratataran The problem is trying to find them if you're the next guy trying to troubleshoot. They're not foolproof.
Eric has got to be one of the best mechanics out there. He also does a great job of filming as he talks. He has my respect!
Nice man. I get this sort of crap a lot too. Customers get upset at removing the badly installed wiring. Can't win sometimes. The installers need to learn that harnesses need to be insulated to be done correctly.
or use wire that will take the sustained chaffing and sharp edges, yeah I know they'd never use it because of the cost $$$
Glad you guys talk. You both have great diagnostic sites.
Chrysler dealer tech here, that shark fin antenna is not factory. Also, whoever did that hack job wiring is an idiot, wiring should never be run across the face of an airbag. That could interfere with the proper op of the curtain airbag right there. That's a federal offense, as it could be considered tampering with federally mandated safety equipment. One common problem i'm seeing with the factory antenna is the threaded portion of the mast gets broken off in the base of the antenna. Sometimes, the broken part can be unscrewed out, otherwise, the base has to be replaced. That rf hub has to be moved out of the way to replace the base. Seeing your update comment, glad that you were able to figure it out and fix it. Also, if the fobik is not transmitting, putting the fobik on the pushbutton and starting the car with it can help to diag. Edit: The interior antenna for the fobiks is under the center console, that's why the fobiks have to be in that area of the cupholder for the interior antenna to pick up the fobiks. I agree with you, Eric about aftermarket accessories installation, and about never tapping into a module power feed.
Never run anything on the egress side of airbag. Preferably not near it at all. Almost impossible to avoid on LE vehicle equipment installs though.
How about never tying into a circuit that also could just kill your car from even working!!!
It should be on its own circuit. Take the time to run wires correctly.
I need to troubleshoot my antenna as the satellite radio portion has no reception, this video is helpful for locating parts.
Yea the only place you should really run power from is the battery or the power distribution center. Make sure you use an inline fuse (in this case they didnt do that either which would of saved the customer from a no-start). Then if necessary use a relay and connect that to either the ignition, or reverse light, to power say aftermarket powered windows or a backup camera, respectively.
That's what's wrong with this country. Regulated to death. Compliant little sheep. Fuck the government. Remove the damn airbag.
Eric took his cap off. Shits about to get serious
GLAD I SCRAPPED MY DODGE CHRYSLER FOR SUBIE-
FORD TOO-
NEVER AGAIN DODGE FORD
@@ekop1778 You forgot to add GM to your list of "never agains"
@@ekop1778 subie is my never again. Dodge hasnt stranded me yet.
I had so many issues with my 01 Outback, the only thing that didn't break was the head gaskets.
If Eric took his cap off while talking to a customer i would be running.
Hi, I am a new guy in your channel. I have been watching your videos since a few months ago. I was put in my house on medical leave since May 2021 and honestly your videos are awesome as you work on vehicles, explain the procedures, trouble shoots the issues and provide humor or conversation in the process. I used to work on my cars and motorcycles at home, however, my medical situation has kind of taken me away from enjoying my garage and maintaining my cars. Sir, I was looking for someone like yourself in my area and got lucky because it is hard to find someone with your integrity in the auto mechanic field. I just wanted to say that ALL your videos, regardless how simple/logical the issues are do not erase them. I have to stay most of the day at home (cancer I have) and I don't watch other stuff on TV or the internet because it is repetitive/gossip/non productive information. THANK YOU!!!!!!
God bless you all for all the time and effort as well the encouragement that you provided to many of us thank you
As a former wrench-turner, I truly enjoy your videos, even learn a thing or two here and there, even if I don't do it any more.
Saw Journey in 78 with Cheap Trick, Heart and the Motor City Madman! County Stadium, Milwaukee! Great show! Oh..... sorry wrong Journey.
world series of rock???
Back when bands were made up of people who had real talent. saw all these and many more.
@@richardcranium5839 Grand Slam Jam
For those who do not know, You can push the Push To Start button a second time to stop the engine from cranking. Also if you hold it in, while driving, the engine will shut off.
This is my new favorite channel, I have been hooked for a couple weeks watching old ones, you do great work don’t cut corners and absolutely not just a parts hanger love watching keep up the great work Eric O.
As a mechanic I thought tools would be my main expense....then around 2000 every car manufacturer decided to change their styles of fuses every 3 years or so with Ford leading the pack. Now I carry to full trays of fuses in the truck only to find....there is always a style I’m missing...oh the saga....
The dealership I worked at would remove all aftermarket accessories from their used vehicles before they sold them. Dealer principal didn’t want anything on used vehicles that wasn’t an factory installed option.
Oh, I wish every dealer was like that,a long time ago I bought a vw golf and had some trouble, I went under the dashboard and got shocked, the amount of cable and aftermarket junk I removed was just ridiculous and I hope I won't see it again.
Hi Eric, It's all very well putting after market stuff on your car, but get it done professionally unless you really know what your doing. Your video just goes to show how a botched install can screw up the car's systems so easily... Great videos Eric thanks for making them... All the best from Peter in the UK.
Eric, your distrust for aftermarket equipment and installation is well justified.
I've seen too many cars where an aftermarket stereo amp was installed with no fuse or circuit breaker. The system required a 100 amp circuit but only installed using 10 gauge wire. Should have been 4 gauge or better. The wire was run through the rocker panel, with like the Journey, no anti-chafe on the wires. Good way to burn a car to the ground.
Out of the referral work you get, any idea how many new customers you pick up as full time clients?
Working 20 plus years as an RV tech I have sat in wonder as to why the rig I am working on hasn't burned to the ground. When I tell the customer what I have found they are usually not amused by being the recipient of a previous hack job.
So it was not a Dodge problem, but sloppy aftermarket equipment installation! Great video!
give it time
Just remember viewers, if no one else can do it-South Main Auto CAN do it.
Watching u figure this out and ur wheels just going in that head really inspires me to keep working on automobiles thanks Eric O and thanks Mrs O for the hard work at the desk
SMA recording? Time to mow the lawn.
When I saw "Journey" I thought it was a video about your trip to Staten Island. :) But this is good too.
yeah a vlog on the island trip would be nice
I agree . But ya know hunting season coming up and all 🙄
“Fins to the left, fins to the right and you’re the only bait in town”...
Another Parrothead 😁
Meter has to be on internal amps the way it's hooked up, it is set for an amp clamp in the current situation, pardon the pun😜
Every time he said shark fin I knew this wasn’t gonna end without hearing some snippet of baby shark. Fml
Thank you for showing how to properly trace down a short in the system. Working in auto parts for almost 30 years we get that question all the time and now we have a video to direct someone to .
Nice diagnostic work !.......Heading back up 390 towards home I had to swing off at exit 1 to check out the SMA Mecca ;)......yeah it was 3:30 am and kinda stalky but hey, had to check out the digs and absorb some SMA feel good vibes......lol....
It's not a Jeep this time ,,,,,,,😌
Let's see where this Journey takes us....
Nowhere fast, for sure.
I was hoping Vegas, Pappa needs some new shoes.
After that,, market....
Show...
Good job finding that short. I love the DIY radio installations with wires twisted together and wrapped in cellotape. Bad radio and alarm installations and trailer plugs with those blue scotchlock clips are a curse we deal with regularly.
Comment: I wish all mechanics was as caring, honest, sincere and just a darn good person as you.
I have after market stuff on my car and I don't have any issues, but I also buy good parts and install them properly lol. If you take your time and do it right you shouldn't have any problems.
I put 154K on a Journey. When I traded it, it ran like a Swiss watch. And the ONLY problem I had with it was warping rotors.
Tried Napper rotors and calipers - no joy. The only ones that lasted any significant time were the OEM parts. Otherwise, that Journey was a dang fine car and I was kinda sad to see it go. Of course, I didn’t stuff any after-market crap in it either.
That 3.6L engine was no slouch either. It would haul the mail if you asked it to. One of the very few Chrysler products I enjoyed having.
Thanks Eric. Outstanding video!
I have a 2017 dodge journey, my first starting problem was a bad battery in the fob. Battery lasts about 18 months before replacement. Thanks for the upload.
You make a very good point after installing aftermarket items
had a similar perplexing issue on a 2009 vw cc awd ... where as a bad door module was holding on the entire computer system causing battery to go dead in a few hours .... did the mv test across the fuses to determine all circuits that were staying alive , had to use the old noggin to see past the problem and bring to the conclusion of what was really the problem ... side note door module codes and nonworking window and door latch .... enjoy the door panel removal self latching push pins , must separate to get them to release ....
Always love watching your videos. Good explanations and thought processes to arrive at your diagnostic conclusions. Keep it coming Sir!
Everybody in the world knows not to mess with the electrics of a Fiat. They come with factory installed gremlins, why add more?
Amazing that the first shop they took it to didn't find the problem.
Eric O to the rescue again! I learn every time I watch and re-watch your videos
"another Chrysler product in the bay" Come on Eric, Chrysler quality didn't put it there. Some yeah-hoo monkeyed with it and "there's your problem lady".
I appreciate highly your deductive reasoning/thought process and thoroughness!!!.
Good find and repair.I NOT A BIG FAN OF BOTCH JOB AFTERMARKET JOB.And you are right it take time .
this is why I am very careful with who I let modify my car (remote start) thanks for the videos they help me understand new parts of vehicles
Looking at your computer screen and seeing that all the hyperlinks are coloured purple, the colour purple rather than blue, every hyperlink has been clicked on.... It shows you do your homework thoroughly and you get to know the system you are working on.
Dang, you're good! The meter thing could be a problem for people with oversimplistic thinking. Always calibrate your instruments. A known current draw with a lamp similar to what you do ROUTINELY with scope on a rope is the ticket !!!
As to the diagrams - you always have to check your circuit diagram for the circuit in question BUT you also always have to check the power feed circuit too. You MUST check both. It is VERY COMMON industrial practise NOT to include side loads in single-circuit diagrams. For that you must consult the power feed drawings. I used to do power shutdown planning for a huge 20+ megawatt site. Hydro would call me at holiday times to see what we were doing. It takes days to plan these while consulting drawings and old load lists. Proper schematic searches are priceless. Nevertheless, your nose for trouble and your fabulously good visual inspections and your 'nose' for specific circuit problems and water leaks are what renders you as one of the best automotive guys on RUclips. Probably THE best.
Amateur hour: I thought you talking about the aftermarket installation.
This was good information for us DIYers who occasionally enter into foolish hack mode. Wife wants a back up camera on our 06" town and country.....guess I'll run power all the way back from the battery. Prolly safest. Thanks Eric!
Good call on not repairing aftermarket stuff i learned that the hard way last week.
Loved the video. Eric is a very smart guy. I'll keep watching.
You should have used your "Fluid Film" Load Lamp in place of the 10 amp fuse in the meter, that way the max current would have been limited to 4 amps. Another great video never the less. Thanks from Northern California (the good part of the state)
Baby shark, do do, do do do do
Baby shark, do do, do do do do
Baby shark, do do, do do do do
Baby shark
Mama Shark, do do, do do do do
Mama Shark, do do, do do do do....etc
LoL , made me laufh when he complimented the cleets/sneakers. Good taste Mr. South Main. Congrats on the troubleshooting prowess also
No dandruff! Good job on the Head And Shoulders usage Eric ole boy
Sweet aftermarket junk detective work Dr. O!
Great video (as usual) ! Excellent insight as you go about the troubleshooting and the mindset that goes with it. I am learning electrical as so many things are related especially in today's cars. Your video really helps, thanks!
Great job!!! I couldn't tall you how much of that after market crap that I've pulled out of customer's cars that was causing issues. I could probably fill a 55 gallon drum. Keep up the good work.
That's some awesome detective work Sherlock!
"Enhance. Enhance"
"Just print the damn thing !"
Nice one lol
Great job you make those other shops look insignificant.
Detective Eric O. solves another case. That red wire is doin some hard time now. Nice work!
Too many new vehicles have horribly located interior fuse boxes.
I agree all car & truck fuses should be in one location just like in a house.
Thanks for all the videos you put up.. i watched all the time, my favorites are electrical repairs, i do auto repairs too at a dealership, and electrical its always hard for me to understand, so I tank your for your time and knowledge, i hope one day i get to be good as you are.. “UNO MOMENTO” it always bring me smile and laugh when you speak some spanish..
Good fix. Bad workmanship representing the idea of getting money before doing a good job. Sloppy work causing problems for the future. Good find and not for the first time. Saw you find a broken wire in the back of a car where the wiring went through the internal chasis. Good stuff M8 thanks :)
(It's "un momento" - a sort of Spanish contraction.)
Good to see you back!
I learned my lessons about "After market crap", a LONG time ago. So, the only "A M" stuff I put on is my Ham and CB radios.
Too log a story to go into here. BUT! This is another strike against a vehicle made after 19901
And, YES! i am "AN OLD FART"!
Great video 👍 i really need to invest in all data or some other software. I love the way you show us your way of narrowing down the problem in real time. Keep up the good work
Cool I started to watch this befor until the power went out
If brought my vehicle in with a no start issue and the mechanic fixed it by disconnecting the aftermarket part(s), I would be delighted. Now, I can drive to work, get groceries, etc. And not have to worry about getting stranded.
Great find great judgement calls on this car
Good find Eric, chafed wire in hidden spot, impressive.
That was a good video. I have a 2012 dodge journey will not be installing a backup camera just one more thing not necessary to track down.
Not oem, just like those led licence lamp bulbs!
The license lamp led is factory
@@scr454 dodge journeys take the standard 168 peanut bulb for license lamps
mighty grey there
Dang your good another great fix wish your shop was closer to me , keep up the great videos . Thanks JT
Great diagnosis. You have the knack and skills.
I’m going to have to start calling you the dodge repair shop instead of SMA 😂
Chrysler really don't have a "shark fin" for a radio antenna. In fact who ever had that installed wanted to go "El cheapo" route because at the dealer if the customer wants a back-up camera installed they can easily do it. Factory wiring harness has the hook up for the back up camera and all it takes to activate it is a radio firmware update via USB. Worked under a Chrysler master tech as his apprentice and learned a good deal about the brand and it's various models. This is also a big reason why I don't trust aftermarket stuff to be installed right by someone else. I usually do the install myself. I get what I need and I know I won't have any issues.
Don’t beat yourself up, mate. Brain farts happen to the best of us. Especially with aftermarket bullshit, sometimes it’s impossible to know where to start because there’s no rhyme or reason to any of it. It was a great diagnostic process either way.
That Was a GREAT FIND!! Who Would Chase a Wire(s) through Headliner? Definately Harry The Hacker. Learn Something New Every Day Indeed..
That's also an aftermarket shark fin the one from FCA is black
This is what happens when you let an amateur put in aftermarket BS
The enhance is the best. But the un-enhance was my fav
You're such a manly fella Eric but the second you see a junior soccer boot, you turn into instant doting dad 👍
What in the world did you do to your poor right thumbnail?
Hazards of the job. Fingers get banged and smashed, but it's better than losing the digit.
@@CubasAutomotive at some point continuous bashing is just as bad as loosing it . i'm living proof :(
@@richardcranium5839 yeah, my father says the same. Tender tips. .. I get that from time to time, but still glad I have the fingers. Lol. I find that using tools instead of finger tips kind of helps with that. Seems to let them heal but also less strain on the digits. Also, soak them in Epsom salt for an hr here & there when they hurt. Does wonders for me.
What would you do without Chrysler products? Go broke? When I was an apprentice back in the day we called them fuse-able links. Not sure why, but it did help to distinguish them from the old glass cased fuses. I'm working on a Merc, starts but dies. Electrical nightmare so going to service a Jeep as that is going to be a pleasure in comparison.
"Enhance " "Enhance" gets me every time 😂😂
Whenever someone asks me to help them pick a car, my #1 rule is 'No Chrysler products' lol
Or Nissan
or Ford.
darrell c whatttt. Ford cars are shit but ford truck are the most reliable American vehicles on the road whether you like it or not lmao. The 2 best in general are Toyota and Honda
The way I see it is this: It really is dependent on the unit of measure. If you want cheap and disposable, Japanese cars are perfect, if you want a yard ornament buy a newer dodge, nissan, mazda, chev, pretty much pick one of any manufacturer... if you want solid engineering but not excessive, old volvo. If you want speed/hp go old chev. Torque? Old Ford. Loud and slow? Old Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth. The CDP big blocks were called elephants for a reason. Handling? Easy, and I am gonna catch a lot of flak for this, but Lotus. Reliability? Give up that pipe dream now, nothing out there is guaranteed to ve reliable. It's a question of luck, not manufacturing or design limits. Every model from every make has units that prove reliable and ones that fail. Ease of repair and supply of parts are better metrics to go by. Thoughts?
Good mechanic
That thing needs to make a journey to the nearest wrecker. They all do.
The comment about the neighbor cutting grass every day had me laughing!
Those are micro-2 fuses. They also make a micro-3, it has three terminals, and is essentially 2 fuses in one. It has a common terminal in the center and two outputs, one on each side.
Nice diag and fix. Gotta love AM installers just pick a power wire & splice into it but probably would've been fine if they used grommets & did a proper installation. Smart customer going OEM & eliminating the water intrusion
When I installed a backup cam in my Transit Connect I tied it into the backup lamp wire as instructions indicated. Since it was wireless I didn’t have to run wires up front.
You have got to be a Super Trooper movie fan from saying " enhance ". I laughed every time you said that and thinking back on that part of the movie. Lol
grommets? we don't need no stinkin' grommets!
Even the weave had no rubber grommet on the inside still bare wire against metal moving leads to hat's coming off!!!; )
It just needed some Harbor Freight electric tape Eric. You didn't have to disconnect his toys.
Aftermarket does it every time - especially if it's a Saturday mechanic. (Believe me - I know!!!)
Not any way could I or any one i know have diagnosed this problem. If I learned anything here it is to not let anyone add anything to my vehicle.
Just what my Sunday needed!
I know this is way off topic.. But I was hoping you might be able to give a Kia paint update sometime
*Oh yeah, not sure what people are talking about with the video playback issues, I didn't have any issues. It's probably a youtube thing, or their ISP.