I also have a Mossberg 500 and it has the mid barrel sight and I really like that feature.I wish the Hatfield had that also,seems to help me get on target quicker.
Hi BG I bought a Hatfield SAS 12 gauge like yours , awesome shot gun for $198 at Walmart I've shot probably three boxes of shells through it .Buckshot patterns great with modified choke I hope to get to take a deer with it. I shoot 2 3/4 shells only. Enjoy your video on shooting the 2 3/4 pheasant loads . I'm shooting Federal Hi Bird 2 3/4 #6 1 1/4 oz. They pattern great at 35 yards in my full choke that's all you need to kill a turkey. Thanks for all the great tips on shooting 2 3/4 the pheasant loads, marking your choke tubes on what they are where you can find them quick cutting your stock off to fit you perfect and put it on your swivels for a sling enjoy your video !!!
Randy Cox Thanks, I'm glad the info was helpful. Sounds like you're up on things. Trimming the stock really made it fit a lot better, and quicker to pull up on game. For an inexpensive shotgun, I am still amazed at the performance. From light to heavy loads, it works great.
So you just debunked the myth, that you need a high dollar shotgun, with a high dollar turkey tube. And high-dollar ammunition. To successfully turkey hunt. That's kind of been my suspicion for years. People used to turkey hunt with a smooth bore sidelock black powder shotguns with no special equipment and done just fine. Your video kind of goes against the accepted norms of the day. the more you spend the more successful you'll be. I'm glad somebody finally debunked that. Great info
Thank you for your comment, you motivated me to respond with a little history. I hunted turkeys for years with just a plain 1-1/4 oz #4 shot. Velocity is what makes the kill, and even the heavy turkey loads do not have high or higher velocities than a standard #4 game load. As you point out, shot is shot, no matter where it comes from. The irony is, I used a Remington 870 Wingmaster (no camo, w/Mod barrel) and a Browning Citori (no camo, with Imp/Mod barrel) to hunt turkeys and did just fine. I never complained. In fact, I did so well, I didn't get into a camo gun until around 2007-2008. Even then, all I did was paint my Citori with removable camo paint and it looked great. But it was still the same gun, same chokes, Imp and Mod. My longest shot back then was 54 yards with my 870 with 1-1/8 #4 loaded hot, around 1400 fps. Not bad for a simple Mod barrel. I'm toying with distance now, and that is why I have stepped up to Longbeard XR ammo, and tighter chokes. I want clean kills, and so far 64 yards is my best, but missed getting it on camera. But that takes skill, and knowing how your gun is performing and when to make changes to choke or ammo, because both effect longer distances (over 50 yards). Believe it or not though, it's hard to get a long shot at turkeys because most of them are well under 45 yards, and most guns can take them quit well at that distance. So I have to wait, or try extra hard to get a long shot. I even shot a turkey during a goose hunt with #2 steel at 43 yards with an improved choke. It worked fine. My goal is 70 yards, with a clean kill. The testing I have done makes it possible, but shots past 50 need all the help they can get to maintain a decent pattern, and not just a lucky shot. So I implemented a scope to maintain accuracy and allow for better testing of ammo and the ability of hitting the same spot twice. If a person doesn't plan to take shots that far, then there is no need to go for the heavy turkey loads and extra tight chokes. A simple 1-1/4 oz game load will take them down just as quick and easy, and always have. Thanks for your input.
Great man. I bought one online for 215, was wondering how the chokes that it came with were this answered my question. Looking to put a Carlson coyote choke on it, thanks man.
They come with three tubes. You'll be fine out to about 35 yards with about any of them. I have taken turkeys out to 54 yards with a mod choke in 12 ga. For the 20, I recommend getting a turkey tube. That will land you out 50 yards easy.
@@ThePatriotParadox I haven't had any issues with the 20 ga SAS at all. I use it a lot for quail because it's light, and reliable. However, I prefer a 12 on turkey, but I know the 20 will do just fine. I have taken a lot of turkeys with an 1-1/4 oz shot in 12 ga. The 20's use 1-1/4 oz shells for turkey. Basically the same thing. However, I believe the shot string is longer in the 20 than the 12, which is also a plus. Will Primos and some of his people also use 20 ga as well. You may want to use 3" shells, and get the Winchester Long Beard XR ammo. That is what makes the big difference in distance. And I mean a big difference.
@@bgdesignandsolutions that's what I was thinking about 3" inch and about 3" 1/4 for 12gauge but if I get it I will pattern it with the chokes that come with it out to 30 yards and try 35 & 40 just to see how it does ... However before I go beyond 30/I may try and get a Turkey choke from Primo's or Bone Collector. Difinatly try the Winchester XR 3" inch shells though if you say that the Hatfield SAS like eating those!
Do you usually use regular birdshot or tungsten's or something... This will be my first year with a shotgun, I have only hunted them with a bow before now. I have a nice 400$ like new Bear compound bow I'm trying to see if I can sell or trade and a secondary one exactly the same brand new I may set up for myself. Or vice versa.
I have one but I ever hardly use it. I can shoot 3" in it all day long, but some of the 2-3/4 will not cycle. I shoot mostly 3" in it anyway. It's an OK gun. No real issues like the 12 ga.
How far would you say the full choke would take a Turkey? Got this same shotgun and spring Turkey hunting for first time this year. Plan on buying #5 shot as I hear it's the best for turkey.
The factory full choke will reach 50 yards comfortably, providing you're using the right ammo. I recommend the Winchester Longbeard XR, in 4 or 5 shot, 1-3/4 oz.. Then 50 yards would be a breeze.
@@bgdesignandsolutions I have to use at least 4 shot in Washington. I grabbed a box of federal heavy field load and will pattern the tomorrow. I was thinking 50 yards possibly. Thanks
@@freedomgunsandliberty I shot 2 last spring, one with 5 shot, and one with 4. I have taken many turkeys with a standard game load of 1-1/4 oz #4. If you're a good aim, you should have no problem.
@@bgdesignandsolutions I'm planning on taking the first one with the shotgun and second bird with my bow. Unless I get 2 Tom's run in and can fill my tag in one swipe that is.
Yes I would for a few reasons listed below.. 1st: it works, and works good. 2nd: there are people who don't have big bucks to spend on an expensive shotgun, and for the money, this is an excellent deal. 3rd: It's gas operated, therefore, it will shoot from the hip, where many inertia shotguns will only shoot from the shoulder. 4th: I believe they have fixed the original problems with this gun, so I don't foresee any future issues. 5th: it has some really nice wood, and design to it, very smooth wood. 6th: it cycles everything I have put through it, from light loads to very heavy (with proper sleeve). 7th: the wood stock allowed me to be able to shorten the stock to fit me (cut it down to 13 3/4" length of pull). This gun shoots as good a any other auto I've ever shot. One thing I have noticed, it has yet to fail on a cold morning. I've had some other auto's (inertia and gas) lock up on the first shot fired when out hunting in cold weather. This one has yet to do that. I'm impressed. As a result, I ended up buying the 20 gauge version as well, and absolutely love it on quail and dove. It will not cycle the AA 900 fps trap loads, but cycles everything else I've put in it. I think these guns are going to be around for a long time, they are built well.
Yes I have. The Shotgun in this video is one of the earlier ones. I use a heavy load piston with heavy loads, and the standard one for everything else. The loads used here were 1-1/4 oz, #4, #5, #6. That's all it takes to kill a turkey out to about 35-40 yards. My longest shot with that load was a gobbler at 52 yards with 1-1/4 oz, #4. Since this video, I have gotten other Hatfield's, and patterned Winchester Longbeard XR ammo out to 70 yards. I have also taken two gobblers last spring (2019) with it. One at 63 yards, and one at 62 yards. I was trying for a 65 yard plus shot, but that's was all I could get. The new Hatfield's uses a pressure port and one piston. Hoping to finish the Longbeard XR video I have been working on soon. I have just been swamped with work and projects and have not had the time to finish it. It patterns out to 70 yards on the Lonbeard.
@@bgdesignandsolutions thank you for a response. I have had nothing but bad luck with Hatfield. I've sent it back twice for the action not working properly while using field loads and it's in their possession now.
@@hunters.6894 I have come to learn a lot about these Hatfield's. I have figured out what makes them tick, and what makes them fail. Perhaps I need to make a video explaining what I know. What do you mean by "the action not working properly?"
@@hunters.6894 I use the Primos Jellyhead. The only other choke I found to be consistent is the Truglo Gobble Stopper because It holds the roundest pattern out to 70 yards. It's even better than Carlson's Longbeard XR choke, and slightly better than HeviShot. It's that good. Go with the Truglo Gobblestopper, you won't be disappointed.
I also have a Mossberg 500 and it has the mid barrel sight and I really like that feature.I wish the Hatfield had that also,seems to help me get on target quicker.
They use the Benelli Mobil Chokes. Many shotguns use these chokes. So when you buy after market chokes, make sure they are for Benelli Mobil.
@@bgdesignandsolutions Thanks
Hi BG I bought a Hatfield SAS 12 gauge like yours , awesome shot gun for $198 at Walmart I've shot probably three boxes of shells through it .Buckshot patterns great with modified choke I hope to get to take a deer with it. I shoot 2 3/4 shells only. Enjoy your video on shooting the 2 3/4 pheasant loads . I'm shooting Federal Hi Bird 2 3/4 #6 1 1/4 oz. They pattern great at 35 yards in my full choke that's all you need to kill a turkey. Thanks for all the great tips on shooting 2 3/4 the pheasant loads, marking your choke tubes on what they are where you can find them quick cutting your stock off to fit you perfect and put it on your swivels for a sling enjoy your video !!!
Randy Cox Thanks, I'm glad the info was helpful. Sounds like you're up on things. Trimming the stock really made it fit a lot better, and quicker to pull up on game. For an inexpensive shotgun, I am still amazed at the performance. From light to heavy loads, it works great.
So you just debunked the myth, that you need a high dollar shotgun, with a high dollar turkey tube. And high-dollar ammunition. To successfully turkey hunt. That's kind of been my suspicion for years. People used to turkey hunt with a smooth bore sidelock black powder shotguns with no special equipment and done just fine. Your video kind of goes against the accepted norms of the day. the more you spend the more successful you'll be. I'm glad somebody finally debunked that. Great info
Thank you for your comment, you motivated me to respond with a little history. I hunted turkeys for years with just a plain 1-1/4 oz #4 shot. Velocity is what makes the kill, and even the heavy turkey loads do not have high or higher velocities than a standard #4 game load.
As you point out, shot is shot, no matter where it comes from.
The irony is, I used a Remington 870 Wingmaster (no camo, w/Mod barrel) and a Browning Citori (no camo, with Imp/Mod barrel) to hunt turkeys and did just fine. I never complained.
In fact, I did so well, I didn't get into a camo gun until around 2007-2008. Even then, all I did was paint my Citori with removable camo paint and it looked great. But it was still the same gun, same chokes, Imp and Mod.
My longest shot back then was 54 yards with my 870 with 1-1/8 #4 loaded hot, around 1400 fps. Not bad for a simple Mod barrel.
I'm toying with distance now, and that is why I have stepped up to Longbeard XR ammo, and tighter chokes. I want clean kills, and so far 64 yards is my best, but missed getting it on camera.
But that takes skill, and knowing how your gun is performing and when to make changes to choke or ammo, because both effect longer distances (over 50 yards).
Believe it or not though, it's hard to get a long shot at turkeys because most of them are well under 45 yards, and most guns can take them quit well at that distance. So I have to wait, or try extra hard to get a long shot.
I even shot a turkey during a goose hunt with #2 steel at 43 yards with an improved choke. It worked fine.
My goal is 70 yards, with a clean kill. The testing I have done makes it possible, but shots past 50 need all the help they can get to maintain a decent pattern, and not just a lucky shot.
So I implemented a scope to maintain accuracy and allow for better testing of ammo and the ability of hitting the same spot twice.
If a person doesn't plan to take shots that far, then there is no need to go for the heavy turkey loads and extra tight chokes. A simple 1-1/4 oz game load will take them down just as quick and easy, and always have.
Thanks for your input.
@@bgdesignandsolutions no problem I've always thought that for the average turkey hunter all that high-dollar equipment was a necessary
Thanks for the video, I was impressed with the patterns of the stock tubes, but then again I don't shoot a lot of shotguns.
I think a lot of people are not aware of how effective standard chokes are. That's one reason I made the video. Thanks for you appreciation.
@@bgdesignandsolutions did your gun come with a two gas Pistons one for light and one for heavy loads?
@@mrhamburger6936 This particular gun came with two. It predates the pressure regulator version.
@@mrhamburger6936 My Hatfield SAS came with 2 gas pistons.Mine also came with the 5 mark skeet choke instead of the 3 mark Improved cylinder.
Bought mine a couple of weeks ago for dove hunting, great pattern at 30yds with Federal #7.5 with Modified choke
Awesome.
Can you tell me primos Turkey choke number I wanna get one i got a Hatfield sas semiautomatic 12 ga
Great man. I bought one online for 215, was wondering how the chokes that it came with were this answered my question. Looking to put a Carlson coyote choke on it, thanks man.
Glad I saw this would try to sell that jellyhead or whatever. Your full is fine and shoots more accurate!!!!!
Anybody know what other brand's of chokes will fit the Hatfield SAS?Sorry if it has already been mentioned,I didn't read all the comments.
Any choke made for the Benelli Mobil will work. Carlson, True Glo, Pattern Master, Rob Roberts, Cabelas, and so on, all make chokes that will fit.
Glad to see this I was just about to but the Hatfield 20 gauge for Turkey hunting this year. Do they come with the choke tube or tubes?
They come with three tubes. You'll be fine out to about 35 yards with about any of them. I have taken turkeys out to 54 yards with a mod choke in 12 ga. For the 20, I recommend getting a turkey tube. That will land you out 50 yards easy.
@@bgdesignandsolutions thanks man, a forty yard shot at a Turkey with a 20gauge is a long shot and good AF in my book. Has it cycled good for u?
@@ThePatriotParadox I haven't had any issues with the 20 ga SAS at all. I use it a lot for quail because it's light, and reliable. However, I prefer a 12 on turkey, but I know the 20 will do just fine.
I have taken a lot of turkeys with an 1-1/4 oz shot in 12 ga. The 20's use 1-1/4 oz shells for turkey. Basically the same thing. However, I believe the shot string is longer in the 20 than the 12, which is also a plus.
Will Primos and some of his people also use 20 ga as well.
You may want to use 3" shells, and get the Winchester Long Beard XR ammo. That is what makes the big difference in distance. And I mean a big difference.
@@bgdesignandsolutions that's what I was thinking about 3" inch and about 3" 1/4 for 12gauge but if I get it I will pattern it with the chokes that come with it out to 30 yards and try 35 & 40 just to see how it does ...
However before I go beyond 30/I may try and get a Turkey choke from Primo's or Bone Collector. Difinatly try the Winchester XR 3" inch shells though if you say that the Hatfield SAS like eating those!
Do you usually use regular birdshot or tungsten's or something... This will be my first year with a shotgun, I have only hunted them with a bow before now. I have a nice 400$ like new Bear compound bow I'm trying to see if I can sell or trade and a secondary one exactly the same brand new I may set up for myself. Or vice versa.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Thanks for the appreciation.
good demo
glad i saw this i have the same shotgun
where you sucessful?
Not yet, I had two gobblers just out of range this morning. Maybe next time.
Good video man
Is the 20 gauge version of this any good?
I have one but I ever hardly use it. I can shoot 3" in it all day long, but some of the 2-3/4 will not cycle. I shoot mostly 3" in it anyway. It's an OK gun. No real issues like the 12 ga.
How far would you say the full choke would take a Turkey? Got this same shotgun and spring Turkey hunting for first time this year. Plan on buying #5 shot as I hear it's the best for turkey.
The factory full choke will reach 50 yards comfortably, providing you're using the right ammo. I recommend the Winchester Longbeard XR, in 4 or 5 shot, 1-3/4 oz.. Then 50 yards would be a breeze.
@@bgdesignandsolutions I have to use at least 4 shot in Washington. I grabbed a box of federal heavy field load and will pattern the tomorrow. I was thinking 50 yards possibly. Thanks
@@freedomgunsandliberty I shot 2 last spring, one with 5 shot, and one with 4.
I have taken many turkeys with a standard game load of 1-1/4 oz #4. If you're a good aim, you should have no problem.
@@bgdesignandsolutions I'm planning on taking the first one with the shotgun and second bird with my bow. Unless I get 2 Tom's run in and can fill my tag in one swipe that is.
@@freedomgunsandliberty Sounds Good.
Hey man have the same gun what would you suggest to use for water fowl hunting 20-50 yard shots
I use 1-1/16 oz in 3 inch shell. I use various shot sizes, depending on the situation.
Would you recommend this gun?
Yes I would for a few reasons listed below..
1st: it works, and works good.
2nd: there are people who don't have big bucks to spend on an expensive shotgun, and for the money, this is an excellent deal. 3rd: It's gas operated, therefore, it will shoot from the hip, where many inertia shotguns will only shoot from the shoulder.
4th: I believe they have fixed the original problems with this gun, so I don't foresee any future issues.
5th: it has some really nice wood, and design to it, very smooth wood.
6th: it cycles everything I have put through it, from light loads to very heavy (with proper sleeve).
7th: the wood stock allowed me to be able to shorten the stock to fit me (cut it down to 13 3/4" length of pull).
This gun shoots as good a any other auto I've ever shot. One thing I have noticed, it has yet to fail on a cold morning. I've had some other auto's (inertia and gas) lock up on the first shot fired when out hunting in cold weather. This one has yet to do that. I'm impressed.
As a result, I ended up buying the 20 gauge version as well, and absolutely love it on quail and dove. It will not cycle the AA 900 fps trap loads, but cycles everything else I've put in it. I think these guns are going to be around for a long time, they are built well.
Have you ever used magnum loads in this shotgun??
Yes I have. The Shotgun in this video is one of the earlier ones. I use a heavy load piston with heavy loads, and the standard one for everything else. The loads used here were 1-1/4 oz, #4, #5, #6. That's all it takes to kill a turkey out to about 35-40 yards. My longest shot with that load was a gobbler at 52 yards with 1-1/4 oz, #4.
Since this video, I have gotten other Hatfield's, and patterned Winchester Longbeard XR ammo out to 70 yards. I have also taken two gobblers last spring (2019) with it. One at 63 yards, and one at 62 yards. I was trying for a 65 yard plus shot, but that's was all I could get. The new Hatfield's uses a pressure port and one piston.
Hoping to finish the Longbeard XR video I have been working on soon. I have just been swamped with work and projects and have not had the time to finish it. It patterns out to 70 yards on the Lonbeard.
@@bgdesignandsolutions thank you for a response. I have had nothing but bad luck with Hatfield. I've sent it back twice for the action not working properly while using field loads and it's in their possession now.
@@bgdesignandsolutions what choke do you use with the long beards?
@@hunters.6894 I have come to learn a lot about these Hatfield's. I have figured out what makes them tick, and what makes them fail. Perhaps I need to make a video explaining what I know.
What do you mean by "the action not working properly?"
@@hunters.6894 I use the Primos Jellyhead. The only other choke I found to be consistent is the Truglo Gobble Stopper because It holds the roundest pattern out to 70 yards.
It's even better than Carlson's Longbeard XR choke, and slightly better than HeviShot. It's that good. Go with the Truglo Gobblestopper, you won't be disappointed.
How did you mount a sling on the tube?
I used a machine thread sling stud. you can watch it here. ruclips.net/video/Udw7a4BNDds/видео.html