Is Yu-Gi-Oh! Good Right Now? feat.
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2025
- Vlad make a normal thumbnail challenge impossible. Just to clarify and for context: this was recorded before the world championship 2023.
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Thanks for having me on! Had a lot of fun doing this! Joshua is also incredibly aware with how this game is played. Would love to be back on in the future!
More yugioh podcast like this please
All in favor say aye
Just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed this video, MBT's magical hats was a good format for discussions but it left me wanting more. More discussions like this are exactly what I've been looking for, hope we see more soon
I didn't like that series. I like discussions like this like basic podcast format, but I thought the idea of guessing who has "the wrong opinion" was weird when opinions don't usually have an objectionable standard. It's just whatever someone thinks about something.
@@spicymemes7458It wasn't who had the wrong opinion, it was who was lying about their opinion. Magical Hat's problem was discussing very specific topics, so it got very subjective and you got situations where the more casual players(farfa and coder most of the time), end up ganging up on the eccentric opinions (rotation, floodgates, tearlamemts to name a few).
This video is better in the sense that it's more of a general discussion with different mindset, so its more formal.
@zoombye8806 I do remember MBT saying "wrong opinion" but the sentiment is the same. This style of interviewing is better and more informative.
@@spicymemes7458The intro of the series is MBT saying "one them has a fake take" iirc, which would imply honest or disingenuous takes; not "right or wrong" takes.
@@aluminumtarkus fair, but I still think even "fake takes" are a silly notion.
I ironically got back into yu-gi-oh after watching Rarrans video about master duel and his critique of yu-gi-oh as a whole. After not having played the game since 2016 (around the time zoodiac was popular) and only playing hearthstone and mtg in the meantime, I feel like it's a completetly different game now, but I actually like all the crazy combos you can pull off that are impossible in other games. That being said, some aspects of modern yu-gi-oh are definetely frustrating, especially the whole 'negating everything your opponent does' style of play. I feel like if the game goes back to being more interactive outside of dropping handtraps, it's actually a lot of fun if you're willing to put in the time. But of course,this is only my opinion as someone who returned to the game and I can't speak for those who never played it at all.
The game was better, when there was no need for handtraps.
Give it more time. Plenty of decks can tango with multi negate boards just fine so you might just not have seen everything yet.
Tbh this take isn't wrong at all though by now it's less of handtraps doing the negating and more so Floodgates being incredibly tough to break through or multiple boss monsters that Omni negate. There's many cards that out them sure but I won't lie when I say that argument is dumb when Maxx C fits in the same category and still should be banned. Sure if Maxx C was banned that's 9 cards that could make a difference in the game but there'll be times when you still won't have what's needed to push through.
"Negate everything" isn't really a playstyle that's been meta for the past 2 years. Combo decks have been held in deck by board breakers for awhile now and decks are more grind focused these days. The problem with yugioh right now is locking players out of the game with floodgate effects, and this has been reflected in the meta.
The sentiment that the game is still about " negating everything your opponent does" is one I still hear frequently, but to be honest, I feel like the game has been moving away from negates for the past 2 years or so, even on Master Duel now. Most decks do still have one or two negates on their endboard (Baronne is still used in many decks for example), but most of the interaction comes in different forms nowadays.
Personally I have felt that negates have also just been getting less good due to the amount of longer chains (and thus a lot of chain guarding happening), and also many decks being able to play through a few negates just fine. We've moved quite a bit past the "Adimancipator/Drytron board" type of play, and I actually believe the game is moving into a positive direction for the most part. Although tbf, it hasn't faded away entirely (I know Super heavy Samurai is about to bring that type of gameplay back in MD in a while from now), and the even the newer type of gameplay comes with its own issues.
I think we need more of these talks where it's not entirely focused on the competitive side of the game but as a whole, so this is a great one! Maybe we can even invite some OCG people so it's really yugioh as a whole
Beyond the duel (SG)
Yugioh duelist Indonesia (ID)
Yugioh intro for expert players.
If on Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese and korean side you need a translator, most of them don't speak English fluently.
Dow and Tofu (TW) can speak English.
Karami(KR) recently did an interview with Paulie with a translator
@@r3zaful I don't think ID player would be a good source from the OCG tho, sure they play, but they just get their official region on april iirc ( from duelist nexus onward ), their competetive opinion might not be there yet
@@jps_user20 we literally fly to sg to play on regional duelist cup back then lmao.
Paul and Josh should definitely do more podcast together on their own platform where they don’t gotta worry about how long it is or if it does well to do another cuz this was great
Agreed. These guys both have great personalities and a lot of knowledge of the game. It’s nice to also see conversations play out with representation from the competitive and casual standpoints. This was a great cast line up. Would love more of this
@@EggoEspada for real man this was an amazing job need more of this
agree i would have liked to see them speak directly
@@sriley4458 fr
I liked this "podcast" format. Do it more if possible, or bring other people from time to time and let them tell us their thoughts of a recurrent topic or a new one.
I think the easiest change is moving forward, follow the OCG change of bullet point the effects to make parsing the card much easier. And please make a few “evergreen” keywords that basically would make older cards the reminder text.
I love this video. Having 3 players that enjoy this game in 3 different ways talking about the game is great. Hope to see more.
Hope we get more of these podcast like videos.
Shoutout to Paul's Pod of Greed, if nobody has seen it.
It's really good and fun to listen to!
Finally someone talks about how we've been missing the recent Ninja support FOR ALMOST A YEAR IN MASTER DUEL. They gave us Chaos Angel which came out like 3 months ago 😭
At least we got the traptrix support, so im happy
I feel as if they're trying to make a different format to both tcg and paper but at the same time failing
This was amazing to listen to, please consider doing more in the future.
Maybe it could be spaced out about 3-6 months each, to kind of talk about recent developements and shifts.
Huge fan of this, although it was kind of painful how often Paul tried to talk but couldn't lmao. You all did great, between this and MBT's 1 to 1 discussion videos(EX: The Pendulum Problem) I think Yugitubing is slowly shaping into it's own interesting directions on what is fun to watch and what isnt. I suppose if anything taught us this though, it'd be Magical Hats
I love this format of video to have the two extremes of the community. I am more on the competitive side but I think every player can agree that the decks are just too strong and no one enjoys the solitaire to auto win the turn or you brick and auto lose because every deck can set up 8k with out issue or they solitaire to make it so there is no way you can win.
I'm in MD mostly so if there is a game I don't want to sit through, I'll back out and jump back in until I get a game I want. I understand that's not so easy in paper play.
@@spicymemes7458if I’m playing a video game i shouldn’t have to give multiple people in a row free wins just to try have a good duel
@purememes844 it's not about giving free wins. It's about controlling what type of game you want to play. If your goal is ladder climbing, then sure, I can see how that wouldn't help what you are trying to do. However, if you are just doing it for dailies or to burn time on break at work like I do, then it's not that big of a deal. To each their own.
Great Video. Having two perspectives makes it rly informative while being enterntaining at the same time
+ Farfa did a good job as a host moving the discussion forward.
Quick guess
Paul: No
Josh: Yes
Nadir: Wheres the banlist?
Farfa's name is nadir or is this an inside joke that i don't understand?
Yes his name is Nadir
@@mattgibson9337 is he Arabian or something?
@@yuseifudo6075 Scottish
# TeamNadir
The WCQ discussion was really sad to hear.
The World Championship is supposed to be a celebration and advertisement for Yugioh. If Konami isn't going to spend money on that, how bad are things getting?
Also, you could just make a system where you need X wins before Y losses. You can change the numbers to let as many/few people hit that point as you need.
The attempt at having the ability to play the game is the important thing, I brought Hazy Flame to a local in like 2020, and I took one round off of a guy playing dragonmaid and that was exactly what I was looking for in a duel.
i played my first 2 locals this year and went 1 - 3 and 1 - 1 - 2 with invoked mekk knight. it was a good experience and i want to go again. also second local i almost got the 2 - 1 - 1 record but i got cheated in time :/ only needed to go into battle phase but the dude was like. yeah times up sorry my guy xD
Master Duel even takes forever releasing the Secret Pack that goes along with an Archetype they put in the game like a year ago.
You know what's a crazy idea to massively boost the viability of rogue to casual decks? Implement the Duel Links system of universal limit/semi/3s. Oh you're a meta deck? You don't get to use powerful staples. You're a rogue deck with 1 card that's like Semi'd? Well you do lose out on the pool of universal semi staples, but you still have a lot of options elsewhere. That might deal with the 5% win rate of rogue decks if say meta decks weren't allowed to run hand traps that auto kill turn 1s for rogues
This is the correct take
Adding additional complexity with additional hoops to jump through is objectively NOT the correct take. This destroys new player interest as sure as anything else.
@41:55 Thank you Josh for saying that sometimes there's decks that aren't "the best" that gatekeeps other decks from competing. Kash this time. But in the past it was True Draco, Phantom Knights, Branded and similar top performers that keep others from keeping up completely with the other viable decks. This doesn't make those rogue decks that top every now and then like Madolche, Mikanko or Hero as "bad".
Crazy idea for regionals give better prizing then a mat and a box do away with the worlds points and just give us idk money product uncut sheets ect
This needs to be a monthly podcast honestly!
Discussions are my favorite flavor of yugioh content fr
Great podcast, can't wait to see more!
about the romania tbd thing.
for serbia it also said tbd but it did happen, its just that the card shop got the announcment like 1 week before the event. and after it was finished it still said tbd,so i assume the staff just wasnt bothered to update it cuz it was basically the last nats before euros
k just checked the website,romania isnt even listed,not even for tbd. so it was prob serbia
The forte people pin on MTG is a rotating format, and while that's interesting if you're a deck-builder or you like to experiment with new things, the TRUE forte of MTG is a variety of supported formats. Yu-Gi-Oh! in general, but also Master Duel in particular, would benefit from AT LEAST 3 concurrent formats:
>A No Extra Deck format with a vicious banlist, so if you just wanna monster beatdown, you can, but most likely it'll be Monarch/True Draco format (this is fine, but the important thing is to ease players into tribute mechanics and spell/trap removal with a format where that is relevant, and continuously supported).
>A monster combo format, with Duel Links style Limited list (Limited 1, 2 and 3) to control for powerful cards, and where the banlist focuses on Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes as its model decks. Any other architype can be allowed, but limits and bans are handed out based on a decks performance against these two. No modern handtraps, this format is about learning monster combos and stun with a lower ceiling. This can be a true Casual mode in Master Duel, and Legend Anthology is an excellent start.
>Competitive/Ranked. THE format for competitive players that want to beat down opponents with all available options. TCG banlist takes precedence, because whoever runs that has our best interest at heart way more than whoever manages the OCG banlist.
All perpetually supported, with new releases, but their own banlists. A clear progression of play for new players, and players have the choice at staying anywhere along the way. Time Wizard formats should be considered mostly secondary, a lot of players that go to a store to play don't want to play a "dead" format, so keeping these 3 as ongoing is to try to keep as many players as possible engaged.
There should also be some back-end queuing rules, like if you have a losing streak, matching you against other losing streaks, or if you have Shangri-Ira in your Extra it just queues you against other Kashtira players and Numeron players (let them slap each other).
Also, Konami, SPEED DUELS EXIST, they use regular YGO cards, you can make skill cards available online and release a stupid banlist, you table flippin' paint smellers.
I think the game needs more modern archetypes with lower sealing. Like Sword Soul (Ignore Protos existence), it does stuff; it has tools to play through boards; there are options; but at the end, your opponent is just looking at two negates and an icarus attack, and I feel that's acceptable. I think people would refer to it as a mid-range deck, but I legit feel that in a healthy game, the power of all combo decks should be at that level. Not like Tear, where many people will claim that "Sulliek is the only negate," but the truth is that a deck like that out of nowhere creates interruptions and board presence that, while interactive, is just crazy overwhelming and exhausting.
As a swordsoul player in both TCG and MD, it's insane to me that longyuan is semi-limited in MD but protos is completely untouched.
@@Scapegoat-po2ou I can’t believe Scythe and Verte are still legal. 😂
@@SunnyHF-nf4bcwell bystal exist for both of these two😊
Since then I think the reason for Longyuan Semi is to have player less likely to hard draw him because If you hard draw LY, you can easily guarantee protos or search whatever you need instead of search LY and make Negate Chixiao actually matter. @@Scapegoat-po2ou
@@waskithonugroho3955 bystials don't hurt either though as cards. You're never getting scythe from grave
More discussions please. And the an hour was no problem
I like that you guys dressed in Pokemon starter shirt colors. Pattern seeking brain is pleased
"we can talk a little bit more if you want" *video is only halfway done.* I guess they did want lol
Great cast, really enjoyed this
It's my understanding that (in general of course) the biggest difference between a Japanese company (konami) and a western company (WOTC for example to keep it in line with TCGs) is that Japanese companies are less likely to give "state of the union" addresses to their fanbases than western companies are, because it's just a different culture. This is why you see WOTC constantly putting out "we see X card is a problem, don't worry we're constantly monitoring its winrares and if we see a problem we will fix it" vs the complete radio silence of Konami
You guys are looking at TOSS with rose tinted glasses. The best board in that format was Hieratic Seal, Hot Red, Colossus, and Hope Harbinger having looped the opponent for two with diabolos and levianeer. That’s a best of all possible worlds scenario for the Thunder player, but they were usually able to get most of the way there provided they played correctly.
And if you look at formats (EDIT: Between ~April 2019 and January 2020) without that, you get shit like Lunalight Orcust being immune to handtraps or Orcust Striker being a probable Tier 0 deck, which is to say they’re worse.
Paul’s point about the way the Duelist Cup works and “they just want you to grind” resonated with me. I was enjoying my time in MD for a while, but after farming DC and playing tear after tear after tear I bounced off hard.
It’s partially my fault because I’m not playing a super high-tier deck (Pendulum Magicians is my favorite deck, and it’s still capable of winning against good decks sometimes) but I’m far from a Timmy Blue-Eyes. None of the meta-relevant options really interest me, especially not enough to farm out enough gems and dust to craft a deck that’s gonna need like 8 URs.
It also doesn’t help that, as a MD player primarily, I know what’s coming up isn’t gonna be fun either. I’m a pendulum player, so why would I come back to a game that I know just got Shangri-ira?
book of moon kaiju ? i mean i know its hard at times but i refuse to concede to outright not playing anymore. im exploring so many things and love how many decks improved over time. i play galaxy-eyes, mekk knights, invoked stuff, infernoids, earth machine, red dragon archfiend.
nothing of that is particularly good but its cool to see what is possible and you have all these cards to help you out. the truly bad part about MD imo is the BO1 crap. if i had the chance to side it would be much better.
also i dont like that if i concede a duel i dont get progression to my dailies which sucks. other than that i am happy to look into revendreads and inzektors. i just love these older decks.
I think watching a really competitive tear mirror match is interesting to watch once. Maybe twice. But its to the point with how common tear is, and how much i have to play against them, i tune out any tear match that i witness. Even the non-mirror matches. Variety is the best
Yeah I really like the Tear mirror but even I was gettigg by fatigued watching the Dkayed tournaments where almost half the top 8 was Tearlaments.
having more "our turn"-esque decks at a recent power level like RACE would help, one of the most frustrating parts about playing tear was that you couldn't do anything without them chaining a bunch of crap in response
True especially for rank grinding every season, its cool mirror the first 50 games but after months and hundreds of games later it just becomes one of the most boring things ever. Same thing with spright mirrors too tbh when it was really popular on the ladder
5Head Farfa to get a full length interview about the past season with a World Champion
These 3 need to do these type of podcasts more often
Anytime Josh talks I just expect for him to get interrupted, LET THE MAN COOK
In my personal opinion, some of the "bad decks" just lose to powerful staples and such, and yes some engines are better than others, but usually any deck in the last years has some strategy to overcome the opponent.
And I speak as a strictly casual player who goes with familiar possessed, metaphys and other "bad decks" and i mostly dislike the game becase a single droplet or similar can just shut down anything i do with no chance at back and forth.
Yes so much this. Compared to other games there is so much stuff that is playable in yugioh.
What divides tiers is just consistency, flexslot count and resilience but not actually power.
In other games bad decks just straight up can't win because they are too slow compared to the best deck.
Strong Handtraps/staples was end product of powercreeping strongest deck in recent format
I dont think there is a world u open 5 familiar possessed hand/metaphys and beat a 5 spright engine card hand. Some decks ARE just slow and bad. And if familiar is allowed to open skill drain to make it a more fair matchup, spright is allowed to open storm/duster.
@@eleonarcrimson858 its never been equal from beginning tbh
While its looks nice to had a lot of archetype with unique style of gimmick/mechanic,its also hinder them from being competitive at same time,purely because its archetype gimmick either bad or just slow by nature
Anti spell still exists because some one at R&D really doesn’t want people to be able to set pendulums in the scales. Some thing they should’ve been able to do from the beginning.
I really like yugioh right now. only thing I really am sad about is that the nearest locals to me are 2 1/2 hours away. I love playing with cardboard, but I can rarely get the time for drives that long just to play a few rounds. sadly the game isn't really popular in my area :(
Just for the pairings in the beginning of the discussion. At Swiss Nats we did not have online pairings. So running around to see the printed lists and handing over the slips.
I generally play MD and I definitely do feel like the person who just plays decks I enjoy and go into duel rooms with other people enjoying themselves. But I still can get a little annoyed at some deck lists. Just a few days ago I was in a duel room just waiting for someone to join when someone somewhat random seemed to join the duel room enter the table I was waiting at and I decided "why not?" I was playing Bystial Red Eyes for a bit of fun, and then I see them playing Runick Kashtira. So it was just a slow mill pain, as I kept up decently against their big Kash stuff for a bit, but the back row was helping them get stuff back and I was gradually running out of resources to use. I was left with just Red Eyes Slash equipped with Black Metal at the end. And when they Big Eye into Freeze Cursed to take Slash I just scooped.
I recall this tale to tell that yes, I do agree with the fact of how a game ends can be to how you feel. During that match I could compare how it was with a python gradually constricting you, it was just a slow choke that I was desperately trying to escape. I was getting moments of air/fighting chance but then it would be eventually snuffed out.
I don't even bother with those games really
@spicymemes7458 I usually wouldn't either, but for the first turn or two it was just Runick stuff. So could say I got lulled into the sense of "It's just Runick, they only have a limited number of Quick Plays to use" and even when the Kash stuff was out I was still getting rid of Shangri Ira and Diablosis relatively fine. It just was a slow burnout that left me annoyed.
I really agree with Paul about teaching new players with older formats not working very well, sure they may be low power and easier for someone to understand but you're teaching them a whole different game, of course I'm exaggerating a bit but honestly not by much. Even if you are teaching them something like Edison if they like the game they're gonna like edison, not modern Yu-Gi-Oh, it's best to use a modern format that has been altered to be a little more low power than using a simplified format but that doesn't play like modern Yu-Gi-Oh.
Kash was really toxic on "full release" ,but now it's at a great level where you have a reasonable amount of outs
Wanna make out?
I think Kashtira is so close to being cool. Without Arise-Heart the deck is just a really cool midrange deck that wants to accumulate resources over the course of many turns, and they dont have any real interruptions but instead make your opponent think about when to do certain actions, and they mix well with stuff like Punk and Scareclaw, but Arise-Heart means they are just Arise-Heart pass. Kash has such a cool maindeck and such a lame extra deck :(
Except if you're trying to play a pendulum deck and Shangri-Ira locks your zones
Play master duel then
@@codynelson7575 Master duel is awful to play for…. Other reasons….
@@SatanicWren Maxx C 90% play rate flashbacks
@@Greg501- Its ok tho. No one carea about Pend decks 😊
i always find the question about "wanting to play lower power decks" weird because like, you can play them. you'll probably just not get to top rank with them. i think an issue is that losing in YGO can feel bad in a way that losing in other card games don't, where some of the decks really do let you do nothing against them unless you're on their power level, but fundamentally if you're pet-decking, i don't get why it's an issue that you'll wind up in plat 1 or something
i am sure its mostly about not being able to make any play or you standard play. that being said i think there is a way and you wont be plat 1 but you can play the game. you can tech in the cards to win your worst match ups. i mostly play outdated decks because i just get interested through the backstory of the cards or their design or playstyle. so i just play them and have fun.
I’m in Japan, master duel card delay is even worse for us !
Do you guys discuss the TCG part of the game ?
@@yuseifudo6075i dont think japanese players care about the tcg format that much, especially when most japanese's english skill kinda bad
@@yuseifudo6075usually only the unofficial country in the ocg have a discussion about the tcg because we play both formats so we have a decent amount of information. Japan in the other hand, most people dont know english plus the tcg usually get product after the ocg so there is no reason for them to care about the tcg.
@@quangchau3907 i think most rcg players don't know shit about japanese but we still look and discuss their meta.
I want to know if the same applies there
@@yuseifudo6075nope. Also, tcg players dont need to know japanese to learn about ocg meta because road of the king exist.
Love this kind of content! Also o agree with @teamaps a lot, as someone who try’s to champion casual players views on master duel adding casual cards and decks to master duel should be taking a higher priority. Everyone will buy the best decks when they arrive but Konami has this chance to give these more casual decks a chance to play and win in formats they aren’t useless in (black wings are the best example) and I hope Konami will do so!
This was pretty cool guys. I liked the varied perspectives I think as long as the questions are as specific as they are that it’s okay to rant a bit because you guys tend to have decent takes. Paul does rant a bit but I think it would’ve actually been entertaining to see you guy’s reaction to that 😂
Would be interesting to see a podcast like this with Jesse Koton and Hardleg Joe, or Pak and The Duel Logs.
for a podcast type of video i would love love love some timestamps or list of segmented topics.
makes it way more enjoyable
Señor Farfa donde esta la banlist ?
The game is harder when it is more diverse, not being able to side deck for every single deck you face shouldn’t be a bad thing
I believe the game is in a good state aside from a few cards. The newer decks are seeing some competitive play (looking at Chimera Beast). I'm playing a more casual deck (Nemleria) and have found that it is going toe-to-toe with top decks. So, the new stuff coming out is powercreeping the older stuff slightly. If they clean up the card pool a bit, it will allow these newer decks to move forward and shine.
How on earth is Nemleria winning anything? What engines are you playing, or floodgates for the matter?
@@Jrpg_guythey didn’t even say winning
@spncrgrn Actually. I did take 3 locals 1st places in current format, back to back to back. ;) 😆 But I didn't want to say it. I don't want the secret out there.
@@realzionygo with nemeleria? You are joking right?
@@Jrpg_guy Not joking. The deck has been running very very well
im a returning player - been back like a month and i stopped when i was much much younger LOL maybe 2010.. this was before xyz (summons lol) i think. Like.. lightsworn had barely been out if at all back then lol
I love the current formats of ygo. I only play MD but the combos are fun, i appreciate the intricacies of it.. but i hate the feeling of bricks. I wanna compete, (casually) against players in a fun duel, whether or not i lose. But If i draw a certain hand, go 2nd, and the opponent has certain cards, i just know its a scoop lol I dont like that feeling but that might be me just being a novice again XD
Fun vid dude, JS and APS are cool to listen to.
I started with Blackwings and Im currently challenged to take SSoul to Master rank, good luck to me!
Honestly the only issue I have with power creep is you could be playing the deck equivalent of an Taran Tactical M4A1 with attachments galore, a damn fine deck, but then you show up to an event an everyone else is playing with the deck equivalent of a nuke, I mean I’ve got a nuke deck now but mostly because I couldn’t compete with most modern decks
An interesting comparison. I like it. You can fine tune your deck to where it should realistically give many meta decks a run for their money. But you show up and it's like one man vs a small army. Not a fair fight at all.
49:01 OH MY GOODNESS YES @teamaps! I like my DM deck but holy hand grenades yes. Just the game being accessible to lower tier decks is SUCH a mood killer.
I know it's a lot simpler, but I'd like to see a community effort to give Speed Duel a meaningful shot. So many people brush it off without ever trying it, and it'd give new players an easy place to get started with Yugioh in some form.
I think this is just a 1 off thing nut PLEASE make this a podcast. The differences between everyone's opinions is so engaging
i would like an podcast in this constellation! (and maybe with some other Guests, but primarily with you three.)
It would be cool if Master duel did get the cards earlier as in we are the beta testers before the real release.
Konami wouldn’t make money that way, they want people to buy the cards if people are able to test them first people might think twice about buying them if they don’t like them
@@SoraOverwatch But you gotta buy them in the game to and i highly doubt that the real card game sells more than master duel plus you gotta buy the whole box/pack if you do want some of the cards.
You could literally say the same thing the other way around why buy cards in master duel when you know some cards are good and some bad.
Idk either way Konami has a pretty shit way of dealing with this.
Looks like Farfa & Friends got revived in a podcast form....
I got into yugioh after randomly watching the anime again during Covid but didn’t really have a way to play beside some game for the switch. Master duel came out and I could finally use new cards, or atleadt new to me but I was capped at 2019 previously. I’ve never played in person, don’t have any friends that play and I don’t even know where to go to play.
I feel like all of these discussion points and issues boil down to just plain effort on Konami's part.
Josh's comment about "Why would they go out of their way" kind of extends further than I think he realizes.
Why go out of their way to make the game more accessible when we have people playing?
Why make the new user experience more palatable when we have a large existing player base?
Why actually support the alternate formats or come up with new ones when people seemingly only play Advanced?
Konami doesn't have to address any of these if they're even making money passively through the IP. Idk, maybe the investor notes will actually wake them up, but as far as I can tell Konami doesn't feel the need to try. "Why fix what's broken?"
For Neuron, I'd say it just needs more advertisement. I'm sure it's not as widely known as you'd think it is.
hope this vid does well i like the tcg/ocg talks and hope master duel catches up
I love TeamAPS Paul im happy hes in this video too!
One of the biggest gripes for me with masterduel is that they approach game balance from an inverted perspective of TCG sometimes. For example, in TCG, verte anaconda is banned because it allowed almost any deck to run dragoon, and made certain decks like branded that rely on fusion often significantly stronger because of its effect. However, in masterduel they just said "fuck dragoon" and banned dragoon but left verte anaconda in... As a dark magician player it just feels disrespectful
Farfa what do you mean you’re running out of time. All you do is make content. This video should have been 3 hours long and the community would have loved it!
You might have infinite time to sit around postulating about a game..but 1.5hrs is absolute max for 99% of ppl with jobs and a life lol
Its good right now.
We should get ocg card effect numbering and maybe some way to highlight important text via emboldening important words or underlining turn long restrictions.
But aside from that these last few years have been bangers of card design. Deckbuildpacks keep making a surprising amount of playable archetypes with interesting concepts, main sets focus on lore and legacy support and structure decks are pretty strong entry points.
In North America worlds points are updated monthly at least for the past year.
Great video, more of this with these people please!
This gas keep it going
Are you asking me out?
@triple_gem_shining umm I don't know you no I was not I was mean the content was Fire if your girl around 20- 27 we could start talking
glad to see you pushing very barely past the 8 minute mark to get that extra midroll ad mr. farf
I like the idea of domain/commander format but I need someone to play with with deck power levels
Finally we see a Farfa in the thumbnail without any filter or photoshop.
Loved this!! More please
What about introducing a handy cap system like golf? I think you could do something there
Konami. Please continue to update the App. Make it the one stop shop for our needs and that can take you so far.
one of my issues with power creep is that if i want to play a deck that's older in modern (because no historical formats) I'm playing a deck that is fundamentally not built to contain the same number of generics as a meta deck now. The 9-15 slots of generics a deck would want just do not exist for decks that are super reliant on a 2-card combo. So if they come up against a meta deck, their chance of having something that makes that game playable is gone.
Which means either immediate surrender and now no one is playing the game or you sit through the combo and only the meta guy is playing.
So ... Wanna make out?
master duel needs to catch up very fast to tcg. ocg, tcg, master duel.... they need to be 1. it is too much when 1 deck rules them all xD
To support Pauls argument about, most people not knowing about worlds points: this podcast is the first time ive heard about them.
Admittedly im a Casual player that got into ygo like a year before Master duel through content like progression and only started playing with MD release.
I was definitely aware of Worlds happening, but had no clue how one would qualify.
Something unique about the master duel competitive experience that I feel makes ranked worse is the fact that people on ranked want to WIN, because doing so gives you gems to get stuff in the store without having to spend money. The solo mode gives you like 200 gems per gate and casual mode gives you nothing unless you complete missions. So what ever the best decks are people will play them not to be the "best" but to get the gems they want. (Thats the reason D.D Dynamite FTK bots existed, an automated way for people on PC to farm gems)
As a truck driver who plays yugioh this was nice background noise between stops
What a great cast for this topic!
Can we make this like a weekly or biweekly podcast? Its great to just listen to some stuff at work.
only a MD player but I enjoy playing against Swordsoul, Lab (as long as it's not an event where everyone plays Lab), Branded and whatever people are splashing Runick into these days. It's far better than Tears vs. Stun or the horrible state that was Dryton Herald Turbo that MD launched at.
Dryton herald spam was some dark days
i played against a drytron player on ladder last week and it was like nam flashbacks lmao@@kboww88
I would completely agree with the idea that one of format is two diverse it gets way too hard to deck build
At 47:11 Josh is incorrect, you can balance a game. An exemple : just release tearalaments 3 years later instead of when they were realesed and then banning half of the deck.
Banger vid. I hope he does want to play Magikey though. Insanely fun deck and, with Halq no longer legal, can actually experiment with its 4 summoning mechanics.
excited to watch this video!
Idk how people can't track their worlds points it's actually insane
Seems odd to see this video which was recorded before Worlds. I genuinely believe the last Master Duel forbidden and limited list feels significant (especially the ban of Tearlaments Merly and Block Dragon)
Josh its right. MD has been out for a year and its insane theres no equivalent of hearthstone's legend rank.
I have been a ninja player ever since I discovered the deck, and it infuriates me that there has been no MD ninjas, specially since the new support actually made them an actually playable deck that has actual combos and meaningful interaction.
They just dropped a new structure deck for ninjas in MD
@@commenttuff8891 yeah, learned of the data mine like 10 min after that comment, and was pretty spot on with my predictions for it. Already brought the 3 structures to build the deck, and got to gold 1 quickly (I hadn't played ranked in a while, I was at beginner III)
What they didn't touch upon is a thing that I feel like gets no attention whatsoever in these types of discussions: Generic cards, specifically the ones that belong to an archetype.
Ask yourself this: If Needlefiber required a Chrystron monster to summon, and it was only able to special summon a Chrystron tuner, would it be such an unforgivably bad designed card? Would it be stupid to a point where it dominated a format to such an extent where all you think about is how to stop that one specific card? Would it be so splashable that every deck plays it? No, there would have to be a trade-off; play a Chrystron-focused deck, with all the flaws that come with it, or play a different deck with a heavy Chrystron engine that is costly and is embedded into it and suffer all the many the Garnet penalties.
I haven't played current Yu-Gi-Oh! since MR4, but I've been keeping half an eye on the game, and the splashable-archetype-specific-generic-cards syndrome is still as rampant as it has always been, and while power creep and general non-archetype specific bad card design, like Anti-Spell Fragrance get all the flack, an equally pressing issue of dumb power distribution still doesn't get the attention it deserves. JUST DON'T MAKE THE POWERFUL CARDS GENERIC. That way you have Blackwings that have Gofu, Gem-Knights that have Brilliant Fusion, Metalfoes that have Electrumite, and so on. If all of these only worked for their archetype instead of the game as a whole, this game would be a totally different game.
All of this is making me imagine what Yu-Gi-Oh! could be, and then I come back to reality and see it for what it is. All around FeelsBadMan type of moment, ngl.
Halq would still see oppressive play. People already did the deal of this. There's enough crystron cards that well mimic the good tuners it uses to fire it with ease.
Yu-Gi-Oh players have used objectively bad engines to abuse stuff like bril fusion with lonefire to get Scorpio to get cobra to get brilliant fusion or instant fusion.
If there's enough pay off and ways to make space for huge pay off people will use the bricks
@@Fencer_Nowa it's nothing a restriction like "also for the rest of this turn you cannot Special Summon monsters, except "Chrystron" (for Needlefiber) or except Gem-Knight (for Brilliant Fusion)" can't solve. That was my point. Generic isn't refering to just a meterial needed to summon Needlefiber, but also a hard lock for what you can continue doing after you summon him. Same thing goes for Brilliant Fusion.
Yoo yugipodcast finally
Farfacast is back lol
the way these guys respectfully play off each other is great, currently at 27 mins