@@dianecameron137He doesn't have to. His statement doesn't make any reference to denial of Russian aggression but does simply refer to the facts Farage delivers. Try taking your butterfly western shades off and come to realise there are two sides to the cause of this war.
Boris orriginally blamed the EU for the war in Ukraine the hypocrasy of this is ridiculous why is Nigel being harrassed over this, Boris should be the one under scrutiny. we are still voting for Reform.
That's not what he said, this has been massively twisted. He said the West gave Putin an excuse to his people to invade. Which it did by flirting with nato membership. The US did not want Russian missiles in Cuba and Putin didn't want NATO on its doorstep either. I believe we should help Ukraine in any way we can and can't wait till Putin falls out of a window however what Nigel said isn't wrong.
@@stephenhill545Correct. It's just a weak Putin/Faridge excuse. Faridge is just buying into (or more probably is a _paid operative of)_ Putin's rhetoric.
It's the CIA disruptors end of story, I never seen the English so keen to get there people and country destroyed 😮 sure enough it's all tory toffs, stocks and shares, 😮
So if Russia encompass Ukraine wouldn't they be exactly what they don't want? Next door to Poland which is in EU. Farage should never have got involved
You've got an unelected leader of Reform,who admires Putin as a political operator. This same leader wants to abolish peoples human rights by withdrawing from the ECHR. And you want people to vote Reform?
@@AlanFagan-y5l Human rights dont just exist from the ECHR, how do you think other countries have human rights not in the ECHR? Youre manipulated by the media, learn to think for yourself!
@@sonofsomerset1695What have other countries got to do with Human rights in this country? You have too much trust in politicians promising you they won't remove your rights. Think you're being very naive.
FACT farage is anti British , holds an eu passport after getting everyone to lose there’s , he married a German ( now divorced) and has all his money offshore What a patriot
@@guywilletts2804 We agreed not to expand further east after the Warsaw pact was dismantled. We agreed not to attack sovereign countries . We agreed not to remove democratically elected leaders. This is just the same old geopolitics playing out.
@@mick947 ITS QUESTION OF THOSE NATIONS IF THEY WANT TO JOIN NATO OR BLOODY NOT. NOT RUSSIAN DECISION, NOT UK DECISION BUT DECISION OF THOSE COUNTRIES. IDIOTIC POSITION TO HOLD. FCK OFF
@@mick947 So sovereign countries can’t make their own decisions, like joining the EU….i thought you and farraige were all about sovereignty ? Sounds like you’re all about appeasing bullies. Nigel Chamberlain should be his new name !
Any sovereign country can join any organisation they choose! If Finland 🇫🇮 and Sweden 🇸🇪 want to join NATO they certainly don't need permission from Russia! Farage is very wrong and unpatriotic. I wouldn't be surprised if his campaign is paid for by Russian (dirty) money. He's always visiting the Russian embassy. Be careful what you wish for
No, he isn't wrong. Remind yourself that Nato have denied participation in this war from the beginning the take a look at the realities on the ground in and around Ukraine. Ukraine could never do what they have been doing without direct western involvement. @@kingmilanovic6733
@@rokketron you asking that question proves your brain function is off...but then there would have to be something wrong to believe anything that comes out of shitages mouth.
An unelected leader of Reform ,admiring a Russian dictator as a political operator and people can't wait to vote for him. This Country is going crackers.🙄
@@Sc25515 the Warsaw pact was disbanded, NATO expanded whilst promising it wouldn’t. Nuclear arms can be placed in Ukraine if they become part of NATO. Do you think that a sovereign country like Cuba should be able to have nuclear weapons placed on their soil?
@@mick947 Again, same idiotic argument. So once more for you. Decision to join NATO and EU is result of democratical elections. So you are saying that my country after democratical decision had to crawl to Kremlin and ask we can to do so? All former soviet satelites? Czech, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Romania and every other country should ask Putin if we can join this or that? Why? I didnt see russian ask us what we want??? Are you mentaly ill or what da fck???
Any sovereign state can join any organisation they choose! If Sweden 🇸🇪 and Finland 🇫🇮 want to join NATO, they don't need Russian permission!!! If the eastern European 🇪🇺 state wanted to join the EU, that's their people's choice. Farage is totally wrong!!!!!!!
I can’t believe the analogy about raped women….. idiotic. The discussion revealed naivety and a lack of understanding of history, a subject in which Farage takes a lot of interest. Also, In his speech Farage refers to Boris making the same argument!! This is tantamount to an absurd attack against Farage by the so-called establishment. Vote FARAGE/REFORM.
He's right about everything, a lot more than tory or Labour, thats for certain, both controlled puppets with the same main policies of mass immigration and the net zero scam.
No he wasn't. I agree with everything Nigel says and have for a long time. I would like to know how we are any different? Interfering in other countries wars. As usual for this Government - double standards.
@@keifer7813 yes. There was an agreement to not expand nato yo that Russian border. It was signed. America intervened and git ukraine to renege on the deal. There was a fascistic takeover of Ukraine in 2014. They used neo nazis to overthrow the government. In the donbas region, where everyone is culturally russian and even speaks Russian they wanted to incorporate themselves back into russia. They also objected to the coup. For this, ukraine sent military in to ethnically cleanse that population. THIS wad the final straw, the final provocation of Putin who decided to invade on behalf of the culturally russian oppressed population in the donbad region. The west has indtiafted this because they love needling russia. This is because big enemies are NEEDED by the west. The military industrial complex generates billions of dollars and is a huge part of the economy, keeping many people wealthy. If they can vonvince everyone that russia is a huge threat, it then justifies all the spending on weaponry. Most of the weapons being given to ukraine now have been loaned...ukraine will be in huge debt to west after this. While also having to restore infrastructure. Ad the breadbasket of Europe it affects food prices in a major way. Being in thrall and debt to the countries bailing it out now is very convenient for the west. Meabwhile putin gets to be drawn as a megalomaniac intent on ivafing europe. This is bullshit. The mainstram media does a great job of brainwashing people against people they turn into bogeymen. He had done nothing that many leaders around the world have done. And hes done far less to others than America. Ukraine is a corrupt neonazi-led nation. Zelenski is totally untrustworthy, and people shoukd be asking where the billions given to ukraine have actually gone. He's a slick media operator, and dopey people who dont know the history have turned him into a hero. People are ao stupudly brainwashed that in the UK they were happily encouraged to take Ukrainians inti their homes. Complete strangers. It was just weird. We are going to regret giving all this weaponry to ukraine. Look what happened to thw weapons and training provided to afghanistan to fight the russians. They became major terrorist groups. The same will happen now we've given a load of neo nazis weapons (azof battalion, have a read about them) So rather than just lap up what the Sun newspaper rells you like a dumb animal do some research before having an opinion, or inferring that what someone with actual knowledge is saying is wrong.
@@keifer7813 so to answer-it directly is our fault rhat russia invaded. There have also been many points in this war when negotiations to end it were going to take place. The UK, or rather Boris Johnson, literally persuaded zelensky to carry on with the war instead of having peace talks. He promised even more funding if they carried on the fight. They love this fight. Its money money money, influence influence influence.and putin makes a perfect modern day bogeyman figure.
@@keifer7813 if all that flew over your head, then i'm not wasting another second on you. If you have any actual real interest then you will go and do your research. Im not wasting another minute on you.
He didn't say democratic countries can't join NATO, he is saying that just because we see it as a peaceful democratic country joining, doesnt mean others (Russia in this case) will see it that way. We need to be more aware of how others may take our actions, just because we think it is ok, does not mean anyone else will.
@WestCountryWino don't agree with everything any of them say. However, certain aspects of what they said were logical at the time, and since then history speaks for itself.
Wow, Farage predicts a war in Ukraine because we’re expanding east after making promises to Gorbachev that we wouldn’t, and that somehow links in with Robinson.
@@keifer7813 mass immigration from so many different & diverse foreign communities , has led to ghettos of these communities . Result minimal integration with other communities, let alone integration with any of the indigenous british communities.
Nah, he plainly speaks the simple facts on the matter. When those that scream back at him blatantly dismiss the accountability of the western part in the cause of this war, that for me says a lot about the opposition and the true nature of those who are in complete denial over it in it's entirety.
The type of leadership we have had during the EU growing, have taken the attitude that we should all be allowed to do as we wish, because we are democratic. It’s been pointed out for decades by Kissinger and many others, way before Farage, that this will lead to tension.
Yes vote to join, or go to prison if you are lucky, The government known who vote for who and where they live, if you value you r and your family life you don't go against Putin, Did you not see the new areas Russia taken and voting with someone with a gun seeing who you are voting for, do you really think that in Russia that, almost 90% want him as leader, they are afraid to say anything, as it's against the law to say the wrong thing.
@@nemosays6337 referendum on the Act of Declaration of Independence was held in Ukraine on 1 December 1991.[1] An overwhelming majority of 92% of voters approved the declaration of independence made by the Verkhovna Rada on 24 August 1991.
Perhaps, if Nigel Farage had flip-flopped like Sir Kier does, he might have avoided this controversy altogether. 😜 Stupid Farage! How dare he try and explain/defend his position on this and engage in honest discussion about the causes of this conflict. 🤔
The dogs on the street know that NATO’s eastward expansion was always going to turn out badly. Historically the Peloponnesian war was provoked by Athens entering into hostile alliance with other Greek states around Sparta’s perimeter.
This woman on the TV is ridiculous. To touch on Albie's point, it's like hearing that a woman got graped and then saying "im not justifying what happened to her but she really should've thought twice about dressing up that way"
NO IT'S NOT. stop mixing things up. Fact is a treaty was signed for NATO to not continue spreading west. Hell judge yourself first before judging others, why did usa threaten war with collumbia for wanting to sign a treaty with Russia? Why did usa and UK invade Libya and other middle East countries under the title of threat to the nation? Do you understand NATO and Russia are enemies ? Why should NATO be allowed to surround Russia and not stick to the treaty they signed about maintaining the buffer? Latvia and other surrounding nations joined and allowed it, but further expansion would 100% pose a threat. Know why USA and nato can station themselves in those countries next to Russia making an invasion very easy.. (and you do know the west is very very good at invading countries, if you know your recent history)
"Ukraine or any other independent and sovereign state, has the right to join the NATO." - this is the main and basic argument that Western mainstream politicians use almost every day, when talking about causes of this war. However, there are several problems with that argument. Membership in NATO is not the same as membership in the International Postal Association, or Interpol, or UNESCO or similar organizations. NATO is a military and political alliance. And NATO is not some naive, innocent and benign organization. Until 1991, NATO was exclusively a defensive organization. But after the collapse of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact, NATO's behavior in international relations became much more aggressive and offensive. NATO directly, in violation of international law and in violation of the Charter of the United Nations, participated in the aggression against Yugoslavia (1999), then for 20 years (2001-2021) it participated in the occupation of Afghanistan, then the main NATO members participated in the illegal aggression against Iraq in 2003 and the illegal bombing of Libya in 2011. Some of these actions may have been justified, some not, but none had the approval of the United Nations. This behavior of NATO and its main members did not go unnoticed. Is there a guarantee for Russia that tomorrow if Ukraine becomes a member of NATO, NATO will not use Ukraine as a springboard for actions against Russia. Perhaps not a direct invasion, but the deployment of modern and sophisticated long-range missile systems in eastern Ukraine could fundamentally threaten Russia's nuclear doctrine and national security. In this way, NATO can place Russia in the geopolitical checkmate. There is no guarantee for Russia that something like this will not happen if Ukraine joins NATO. "All the countries that joined NATO joined voluntarily" - this is fundamentally wrong. And I will give 4 examples. 1st. Montenegro, a small country in the Balkans, joined NATO in 2017. Before the presidential elections, the then president of Montenegro Filip Vujanovic promised the citizens that they would have the opportunity to express their opinion in the referendum on potential entry into NATO. However, after coming to power, he decided to change his attitude and decided to introduce the country into NATO without a referendum, even though at that moment all polls showed that the majority of citizens were against joining NATO. But regardless, he brought the country into NATO. 2nd. North Macedonia, also a small country in the Balkans, which had a dispute with Greece over the country's official name. Changing the name was the main condition for the country's entry into NATO. In order to resolve that dispute, a referendum was held in 2018, where less than 35% of citizens turned out to vote and the referendum failed. The vast majority of citizens were against changing the name of the country and therefore boycotted the referendum. However, violating the will of the people, the then Prime Minister Zoran Zaev decided to change the name of the country and to bring the country into the NATO. The 3rd and 4th examples are Slovakia and Bulgaria. Both countries became NATO members without a referendum and at a time when the obvious majority of the citizens of those countries were against membership in the NATO pact. To conclude. The idea that the expansion of the NATO pact to the countries of Eastern Europe was completely democratic and legitimate is ridiculous. Washington used the corrupt and kleptocratic political elites in some of those countries to force them to join the NATO pact, regardless of what the majority of the people thought about it.
expanded, provoked, hysterical reaction, all language used by russian propagandists. I remember Putin talking about the hysterical west saying he was going to invade Ukraine.
I used to get annoyed, but now I can only laugh at how dumb panellists on mainstream shows are 😂 Take note of the pattern: all of the callers from London were against Farage and were like 'muh democracy', and the callers from other parts of the country agreed with Farage and were more pragmatic in their political outlook.
@GingerGinge-rb1gr yeah, you don't get it. By 'democracy', I mean the way people use it as a justification to provoke Russia and risk nuclear destruction
Amazing how many people know very litlle.
Farage is right, learn more about it.
YOU GO LEARN MORE ABOUT RUSSIAN AGGRESION
@@dianecameron137He doesn't have to. His statement doesn't make any reference to denial of Russian aggression but does simply refer to the facts Farage delivers. Try taking your butterfly western shades off and come to realise there are two sides to the cause of this war.
Boris orriginally blamed the EU for the war in Ukraine the hypocrasy of this is ridiculous why is Nigel being harrassed over this, Boris should be the one under scrutiny. we are still voting for Reform.
We?
Faridge is so obviously a russian operative. He's in Putins pocket, on a tiny pay-grade.
Fool.
we need Putin to be the prime minister of the UK
🤣
The fact of the matter is we had an agreement with Russia not to expand N A T O and we have
That's not what he said, this has been massively twisted.
He said the West gave Putin an excuse to his people to invade. Which it did by flirting with nato membership.
The US did not want Russian missiles in Cuba and Putin didn't want NATO on its doorstep either.
I believe we should help Ukraine in any way we can and can't wait till Putin falls out of a window however what Nigel said isn't wrong.
He has missiles in Kaliningrad, and NATO already borders Russia.
Farage has helped the Russian State propaganda machine. They are broadcasting that they have an ally in Farage .
@@stephenhill545Correct. It's just a weak Putin/Faridge excuse. Faridge is just buying into (or more probably is a _paid operative of)_ Putin's rhetoric.
The Americans had missiles in Turkey in 62 , the Russians were playing them at their own game, and the Yankee couldn't take it,
It's the CIA disruptors end of story, I never seen the English so keen to get there people and country destroyed 😮 sure enough it's all tory toffs, stocks and shares, 😮
Find something anything too smear nigal farage and keep banging on about it' they used the same tactics in the brexit referendum' vote for change.
And how has Brexit turned out? Maybe the reason people bang on about Farage being a tool is because (and this might shock you).....
He's a tool.
He isn't wrong, Boris said the same. Anyone who can read a map can see.
This is a ridiculous hit job.
So if Russia encompass Ukraine wouldn't they be exactly what they don't want? Next door to Poland which is in EU. Farage should never have got involved
@@jampy3885 so Boris is ok to say this, but Nigel cannot….. Biased minded?
Ffs... Nord stream 2. Why is no one mentioning this lol?
Vote for change, vote Reform.
You've got an unelected leader of Reform,who admires Putin as a political operator. This same leader wants to abolish peoples human rights by withdrawing from the ECHR. And you want people to vote Reform?
@@AlanFagan-y5l Human rights dont just exist from the ECHR, how do you think other countries have human rights not in the ECHR? Youre manipulated by the media, learn to think for yourself!
@@AlanFagan-y5lYou are totally wrong, as lefties often are.
@@sonofsomerset1695What have other countries got to do with Human rights in this country? You have too much trust in politicians promising you they won't remove your rights. Think you're being very naive.
@@rokketronAnd righties aren't always right.
Expansion ain’t the right word. It’s manipulation.
😂😂😂 let's have a debate on boris blaming EU on war in Ukraine
No thought not😂😂😂
Vote Reform 🎉🎉
NIGEL SPEAKS THE TRUTH. WE HAVE HAD TOO MANY ANTI BRITISH LEADERS FACT
FACT farage is anti British , holds an eu passport after getting everyone to lose there’s , he married a German ( now divorced) and has all his money offshore
What a patriot
ohhh nigel oh nigel ..go share a bed with him the lot of you reform voters ..men and women ..oh nigel ...pass me the effing sick bucket ..
rubbish!
Ukraine signed an agreement saying they would not join nato.
Russia signed an agreement that it would not invade Ukraine in return for Ukraine giving up its Soviet era nuclear weapons.
@@guywilletts2804 We agreed not to expand further east after the Warsaw pact was dismantled. We agreed not to attack sovereign countries . We agreed not to remove democratically elected leaders. This is just the same old geopolitics playing out.
@@mick947 ITS QUESTION OF THOSE NATIONS IF THEY WANT TO JOIN NATO OR BLOODY NOT. NOT RUSSIAN DECISION, NOT UK DECISION BUT DECISION OF THOSE COUNTRIES. IDIOTIC POSITION TO HOLD. FCK OFF
@@mick947
So sovereign countries can’t make their own decisions, like joining the EU….i thought you and farraige were all about sovereignty ? Sounds like you’re all about appeasing bullies. Nigel Chamberlain should be his new name !
@@trevaudio Tory pm chamberlain was useless …..
BORIS JOHNSON Made Exactly The SAME REMARKS in the I News Paper in 2016. So whats the big issue about Farage making the same remarks in 2014.
Nigel is correct
sadly i must agree it steh one time he has actually told teh truth but i am still not voting for him
@@aprilonpotbrain washed Russians, brainwashed english
Any sovereign country can join any organisation they choose! If Finland 🇫🇮 and Sweden 🇸🇪 want to join NATO they certainly don't need permission from Russia! Farage is very wrong and unpatriotic. I wouldn't be surprised if his campaign is paid for by Russian (dirty) money. He's always visiting the Russian embassy. Be careful what you wish for
No he wasn’t wrong.
like you said ..we need Putin to be our Prime minister .
hes wrong and so are you.
@@kingmilanovic6733Why is he wrong?
No, he isn't wrong. Remind yourself that Nato have denied participation in this war from the beginning the take a look at the realities on the ground in and around Ukraine. Ukraine could never do what they have been doing without direct western involvement. @@kingmilanovic6733
@@rokketron you asking that question proves your brain function is off...but then there would have to be something wrong to believe anything that comes out of shitages mouth.
No, he is right.
Totally agree with Farage...
You'd have backed Hitler too, back in the day.
@@Sc25515We've already got a load of hitlers , which is called the west
An unelected leader of Reform ,admiring a Russian dictator as a political operator and people can't wait to vote for him. This Country is going crackers.🙄
@@Sc25515 the Warsaw pact was disbanded, NATO expanded whilst promising it wouldn’t. Nuclear arms can be placed in Ukraine if they become part of NATO. Do you think that a sovereign country like Cuba should be able to have nuclear weapons placed on their soil?
@@mick947 Again, same idiotic argument. So once more for you. Decision to join NATO and EU is result of democratical elections. So you are saying that my country after democratical decision had to crawl to Kremlin and ask we can to do so? All former soviet satelites? Czech, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Romania and every other country should ask Putin if we can join this or that? Why? I didnt see russian ask us what we want??? Are you mentaly ill or what da fck???
1945, Russia lost thirty million soldiers against fighting for people's Freedom
It was 24 Million. But i Agree we have Short Memories Induced by The Media and Politicians.
@@johndean1634 Russia also started the war on the axis side...
Any sovereign state can join any organisation they choose! If Sweden 🇸🇪 and Finland 🇫🇮 want to join NATO, they don't need Russian permission!!! If the eastern European 🇪🇺 state wanted to join the EU, that's their people's choice. Farage is totally wrong!!!!!!!
Would you say the same if Scotland voted to leave the United Kingdom and then entered into a military alliance with North Korea?
Albie can’t even pronounce Nostradamus correctly!
I can’t believe the analogy about raped women….. idiotic. The discussion revealed naivety and a lack of understanding of history, a subject in which Farage takes a lot of interest. Also, In his speech Farage refers to Boris making the same argument!! This is tantamount to an absurd attack against Farage by the so-called establishment. Vote FARAGE/REFORM.
And this is why they are against Nigel farage
Truth hurts. Nigel is spot on
By saying this "Fromage" is implying that NATO should refuse memberships on the basis of what a dictator sees as provocation, that is wrong.
Would we as Britain except not being let into NATO because our aggressive neighbour might start an invasion.????
Indeed u are ignorant Nato crossed the red line ...
He has a point. Broken clock
He's right about everything, a lot more than tory or Labour, thats for certain, both controlled puppets with the same main policies of mass immigration and the net zero scam.
If only they had listened to nigel hundreds of thousands of people would not have died.
Nigel saw what nato and the EU didn't see or didn't want to.
No he wasn't. I agree with everything Nigel says and have for a long time. I would like to know how we are any different? Interfering in other countries wars. As usual for this Government - double standards.
Nigel Farage Right
JUST LOOK AT A MAP OF 30 YEARS AGO AND COMPARE THE NATO COUNTRIES TO NOW. IT IS TOTALLY CLEAR.
I hate farage and almost everything he stands for and says. Except on this. He is right.
What is he right about? That it's our fault Russia invaded Ukraine? Because that's what he's insinuating
@@keifer7813 yes. There was an agreement to not expand nato yo that Russian border. It was signed. America intervened and git ukraine to renege on the deal.
There was a fascistic takeover of Ukraine in 2014. They used neo nazis to overthrow the government. In the donbas region, where everyone is culturally russian and even speaks Russian they wanted to incorporate themselves back into russia. They also objected to the coup. For this, ukraine sent military in to ethnically cleanse that population. THIS wad the final straw, the final provocation of Putin who decided to invade on behalf of the culturally russian oppressed population in the donbad region.
The west has indtiafted this because they love needling russia. This is because big enemies are NEEDED by the west. The military industrial complex generates billions of dollars and is a huge part of the economy, keeping many people wealthy. If they can vonvince everyone that russia is a huge threat, it then justifies all the spending on weaponry. Most of the weapons being given to ukraine now have been loaned...ukraine will be in huge debt to west after this. While also having to restore infrastructure. Ad the breadbasket of Europe it affects food prices in a major way. Being in thrall and debt to the countries bailing it out now is very convenient for the west.
Meabwhile putin gets to be drawn as a megalomaniac intent on ivafing europe. This is bullshit. The mainstram media does a great job of brainwashing people against people they turn into bogeymen. He had done nothing that many leaders around the world have done. And hes done far less to others than America.
Ukraine is a corrupt neonazi-led nation. Zelenski is totally untrustworthy, and people shoukd be asking where the billions given to ukraine have actually gone. He's a slick media operator, and dopey people who dont know the history have turned him into a hero. People are ao stupudly brainwashed that in the UK they were happily encouraged to take Ukrainians inti their homes. Complete strangers. It was just weird.
We are going to regret giving all this weaponry to ukraine. Look what happened to thw weapons and training provided to afghanistan to fight the russians. They became major terrorist groups. The same will happen now we've given a load of neo nazis weapons (azof battalion, have a read about them)
So rather than just lap up what the Sun newspaper rells you like a dumb animal do some research before having an opinion, or inferring that what someone with actual knowledge is saying is wrong.
@@keifer7813 so to answer-it directly is our fault rhat russia invaded. There have also been many points in this war when negotiations to end it were going to take place. The UK, or rather Boris Johnson, literally persuaded zelensky to carry on with the war instead of having peace talks. He promised even more funding if they carried on the fight. They love this fight. Its money money money, influence influence influence.and putin makes a perfect modern day bogeyman figure.
@@Smarterthanyew Hang on, how is it our fault that Putin invaded? What international treaty did we break exactly?
@@keifer7813 if all that flew over your head, then i'm not wasting another second on you. If you have any actual real interest then you will go and do your research. Im not wasting another minute on you.
Hes Not wrong!
He didn't say democratic countries can't join NATO, he is saying that just because we see it as a peaceful democratic country joining, doesnt mean others (Russia in this case) will see it that way.
We need to be more aware of how others may take our actions, just because we think it is ok, does not mean anyone else will.
What Putin ally can say
Never should anyone who is a moderate take whatever Nina says seriously she is so near being a communist
It's facts though. People just see things from one side of the story. Do you even understand the history of this war fare
Nina thinks Joe biden is fine 😂 Also sympathetic towards Meghan and harry..I think Nina should retire..
Had to unsubscribe and turn this off, poor from the show panel. Nigel is correct to say it provoked Putin, it did
Truth or not we can still say how we feel & what we know
I thought this show died years ago, somehow still clinging on
Farage spoke some truths, just as tommy Robinson and enoch Powell have done so before.
Just some
@WestCountryWino don't agree with everything any of them say.
However, certain aspects of what they said were logical at the time, and since then history speaks for itself.
Wow, Farage predicts a war in Ukraine because we’re expanding east after making promises to Gorbachev that we wouldn’t, and that somehow links in with Robinson.
What has Enoch Powell said that was true
@@keifer7813 mass immigration from so many different & diverse foreign communities , has led to ghettos of these communities .
Result minimal integration with other communities, let alone integration with any of the indigenous british communities.
Nah, he plainly speaks the simple facts on the matter. When those that scream back at him blatantly dismiss the accountability of the western part in the cause of this war, that for me says a lot about the opposition and the true nature of those who are in complete denial over it in it's entirety.
They don't like to hear the truth do they
Last caller nailed it
Nigel is NOT WRONG.
Nigel is 100 percent right here jeremy vine thinks every one in uk supports ukraine well his so wrong
Well done Belinda !
This Greek man is bias and shouldn’t be on our screens.
Exactly 100 percent he thinks every one supports ukraine his so wrong
100 percent
Nigel is right NATO have surrounded Russia with thousands of troops and weapons, don't poke the bear.
I detest the Jeremy vine show full of people like his self and woke bias
That last caller was the one
Let's see what would happen when a democratic maxico joins Russia 😂
Hilarious
Vote Reform 🇬🇧
And don't forget that nearly 4 million ukraines went to Russia when the war started. And you need to go back to 2014 with the votes.
The type of leadership we have had during the EU growing, have taken the attitude that we should all be allowed to do as we wish, because we are democratic. It’s been pointed out for decades by Kissinger and many others, way before Farage, that this will lead to tension.
Ahmen
"we didnt bring them in they asked to join". And we said yes didnt we lol...?
Nope he was right
Democratically elected? Okay
nope.
People in Crimea voted to be part of Russia.
@@Gary-le7dz - When before or after the illegal coup?
Yes vote to join, or go to prison if you are lucky,
The government known who vote for who and where they live, if you value you r and your family life you don't go against Putin, Did you not see the new areas Russia taken and voting with someone with a gun seeing who you are voting for, do you really think that in Russia that, almost 90% want him as leader, they are afraid to say anything, as it's against the law to say the wrong thing.
@@Gary-le7dz - When?
@@simon-df9wh - where is your evidence?
@@nemosays6337 referendum on the Act of Declaration of Independence was held in Ukraine on 1 December 1991.[1] An overwhelming majority of 92% of voters approved the declaration of independence made by the Verkhovna Rada on 24 August 1991.
Putin's promise line was denied by Gorbachev, who was there.
100% CORRECT….. learn some history….
Perhaps, if Nigel Farage had flip-flopped like Sir Kier does, he might have avoided this controversy altogether. 😜 Stupid Farage! How dare he try and explain/defend his position on this and engage in honest discussion about the causes of this conflict. 🤔
Nigel is correct and should be listened to seriously.
hes a moron. a new Oswald Mosley!
The dogs on the street know that NATO’s eastward expansion was always going to turn out badly.
Historically the Peloponnesian war was provoked by Athens entering into hostile alliance with other Greek states around Sparta’s perimeter.
This woman on the TV is ridiculous. To touch on Albie's point, it's like hearing that a woman got graped and then saying "im not justifying what happened to her but she really should've thought twice about dressing up that way"
NO IT'S NOT. stop mixing things up.
Fact is a treaty was signed for NATO to not continue spreading west. Hell judge yourself first before judging others, why did usa threaten war with collumbia for wanting to sign a treaty with Russia? Why did usa and UK invade Libya and other middle East countries under the title of threat to the nation? Do you understand NATO and Russia are enemies ? Why should NATO be allowed to surround Russia and not stick to the treaty they signed about maintaining the buffer? Latvia and other surrounding nations joined and allowed it, but further expansion would 100% pose a threat. Know why
USA and nato can station themselves in those countries next to Russia making an invasion very easy.. (and you do know the west is very very good at invading countries, if you know your recent history)
Jeremy vine and this greek fella thinks every one supports ukraine he is so bias and wrong
"Ukraine or any other independent and sovereign state, has the right to join the NATO." - this is the main and basic argument that Western mainstream politicians use almost every day, when talking about causes of this war.
However, there are several problems with that argument.
Membership in NATO is not the same as membership in the International Postal Association, or Interpol, or UNESCO or similar organizations.
NATO is a military and political alliance. And NATO is not some naive, innocent and benign organization.
Until 1991, NATO was exclusively a defensive organization. But after the collapse of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact, NATO's behavior in international relations became much more aggressive and offensive.
NATO directly, in violation of international law and in violation of the Charter of the United Nations, participated in the aggression against Yugoslavia (1999), then for 20 years (2001-2021) it participated in the occupation of Afghanistan, then the main NATO members participated in the illegal aggression against Iraq in 2003 and the illegal bombing of Libya in 2011.
Some of these actions may have been justified, some not, but none had the approval of the United Nations.
This behavior of NATO and its main members did not go unnoticed.
Is there a guarantee for Russia that tomorrow if Ukraine becomes a member of NATO, NATO will not use Ukraine as a springboard for actions against Russia.
Perhaps not a direct invasion, but the deployment of modern and sophisticated long-range missile systems in eastern Ukraine could fundamentally threaten Russia's nuclear doctrine and national security. In this way, NATO can place Russia in the geopolitical checkmate.
There is no guarantee for Russia that something like this will not happen if Ukraine joins NATO.
"All the countries that joined NATO joined voluntarily" - this is fundamentally wrong.
And I will give 4 examples.
1st. Montenegro, a small country in the Balkans, joined NATO in 2017. Before the presidential elections, the then president of Montenegro Filip Vujanovic promised the citizens that they would have the opportunity to express their opinion in the referendum on potential entry into NATO. However, after coming to power, he decided to change his attitude and decided to introduce the country into NATO without a referendum, even though at that moment all polls showed that the majority of citizens were against joining NATO. But regardless, he brought the country into NATO.
2nd. North Macedonia, also a small country in the Balkans, which had a dispute with Greece over the country's official name.
Changing the name was the main condition for the country's entry into NATO.
In order to resolve that dispute, a referendum was held in 2018, where less than 35% of citizens turned out to vote and the referendum failed. The vast majority of citizens were against changing the name of the country and therefore boycotted the referendum. However, violating the will of the people, the then Prime Minister Zoran Zaev decided to change the name of the country and to bring the country into the NATO.
The 3rd and 4th examples are Slovakia and Bulgaria.
Both countries became NATO members without a referendum and at a time when the obvious majority of the citizens of those countries were against membership in the NATO pact.
To conclude.
The idea that the expansion of the NATO pact to the countries of Eastern Europe was completely democratic and legitimate is ridiculous. Washington used the corrupt and kleptocratic political elites in some of those countries to force them to join the NATO pact, regardless of what the majority of the people thought about it.
These callers are saying odd stuff
Well said Bill of Manchester
No he wasn’t
Vote Reform
He said hes supportive of Ukraine
Kevin needs to give his head a shake.
expanded, provoked, hysterical reaction, all language used by russian propagandists. I remember Putin talking about the hysterical west saying he was going to invade Ukraine.
You can always tell propaganda, for example the west has always called this war “ an unprovoked war” . When in your lifetime has that term been used?
Maybe NATO were defending themselves when they bombarded Serbia, Libya and many more.
USSR abd EU same thing. Whats sovereign about joining another socialist bloc that reduces countries to 'states'.
Telling the truth
I used to get annoyed, but now I can only laugh at how dumb panellists on mainstream shows are 😂
Take note of the pattern: all of the callers from London were against Farage and were like 'muh democracy', and the callers from other parts of the country agreed with Farage and were more pragmatic in their political outlook.
I dont get the point your making
@@Jgftxgukgbhh the different outlook Londoners tend to have when compared to the rest of the country
@@JakeGurney-k7p you could say exactly the same about the north of the country.We are in a democracy,I still don't get what your trying to point out
@GingerGinge-rb1gr yeah, you don't get it. By 'democracy', I mean the way people use it as a justification to provoke Russia and risk nuclear destruction
I dislike farage but #hespokefacts and has reciepts...left the chat.....
Nigel easnt wrong and that hasbeen probed so ehy keep on about it?
follow the russian money , first they funded brexit party , then tories and now reflux Ltd. ......
what ever you're smoking you should probably lay off it.
What a load of tosh....six ex soviet counties including Ukraine. 2009....european project eu invite for integration..hello?
IF HE THINKS PUTIN NEEDED PROVOKING HE IS DELUDED AND GIVING THIS MAD MAN AN EXCUSE BY THE BACK DOOR DISGRACE
SIR starmer was a communist, now who like russia more?
Putin.s Poodle!!!
What an ignorant comment.
Can't watch this leftie crap.
does that makes nigal farage traitor, i mean he is ass kissin' to vladimir putin, right.
No
At this moment,Russian State media is calling Farage an ally.
@@cynthiamorris1874 Yes, what else.
No, it makes the media liars.
Yep. It's like saying "I admire Hitler as a political operator". Ridiculous how she tries to defend that lmao
Of course he's wrong he's always wrong, it's Farage.
Oh no he isn't.Four legged, sans cerevelle, remoaners right, two legged cerebral Brexiteers wrong g
So why did Putin invade Ukraine then?
Also why did we invade Iraq, that's not even on our border?
Farage is a bargain basement Trump.
Hahah u have a silly leaders so far literally clowns 😂 is time for reform ✌️
Tory lies Tory lies Tory lies 😂
DUNKIRK DUNKIRK DUNKIRK DUNKIRK DUNKIRK 😂😂😂😂😂😂 THE RUSSIANS SAVED YOUR ASSES😮
Maybe NATO were defending themselves when they bombarded Serbia, Libya and many more.
Never should anyone who is a moderate take whatever Nina says seriously she is so near being a communist