ALI & MOHAMMED HIJAB DEBATE AGNOSTIC COUPLE - SPEAKERS CORNER
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Those two were incredibly patient and respectful in this debate. Rarely does discourse over religion not turn into a yelling match. May Allah guide them towards the straight path
Its not really a debate its more of a discussion
Salam from Bangladesh ❤️🇧🇩
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Walaikum Salam brother
waalaykumassalam
Where is salam from Marrakesh?
Bro this is funny. I laughed loud seeing this 😂😂😂
This is a highly technical discussion. Not any one can engage at such level. Great talk.
Half of us were just lost. We didn't get most of what he was saying with complicated language and scientific terms but we enjoyed watching it all the same
true
Well to boil it down. The Muslims argument is; we don’t know: therefore god. And the agnostic dude said; we don’t know: therefore we don’t know.
@@David-tr6xe I think we understood that part
@@David-tr6xe More like:
The Muslim: The Universe is defendant upon an Independent entity (if you could call it that), and that independent being is called God.
The Agnostic determinist: The Universe is Necessary because of my belief in The uninterrupted cause or chain.
*I agree with the Muslims*
@@صليعليالنبي-و6غ no. The agnostics main point was that the muslims argument dosen’t make sense, which it dosen’t. Because why would you predicate that an independent entity is necessary for the universe (a dependent entity) to exist but then not have the same predication for said entity. Dosen’t make sense. Believe what you want but stop trying to bring logic into faith. It never works out.
I need part 2 mashallah. I want to see how they react. Remind me inshallah
Can’t get over the intro song. Is there a full rap ?
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Es salamu alejkum from a bosnian 🇧🇦
The adjective contingent can be used to describe something that can occur only when something else happens first.
Salam from Turkiye ❤
Full debate please
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Walaikum Assalam From Bangladesh, BD
Dawah of the heretics and philosophers, not the Dawah of the prophets and the messengers
Not trying to be rude, just to push you in a better direction, I find Ali speaking on behalf of the guy kinda disrespectful. But no offense, love you guys.
WHERE IS PART 2??!!!
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Bangladesh 💚🇧🇩
Covering all the possibilities and questions that will arise about how we define a necessary being . And whether that definition is accepted . especially by someone who has some knowledge of the islamic texts . Am struggling here
Mashallah you guys live in gold mine where so many people are thirsty for the truth and Allah will reward you if a person enters Islam
THE VIDEO FINISHED??? How do we know how it ended?
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Part2 ?
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If anyone has the link to a live conversation that happened couple years ago on Hamza's den panel with an atheist guy called Ihsan about this very topic . please share it with me
infinite regress is NOT a fallacy.
The athiest uses smart words to say i dont know maybe
Is the universe contingent or necessary dependant on independent.. if am able to have a good control over this bit . I think that's it ..I would have unlocked my next weapon Insha Allah 🥋
Ali Dawah is attempting to engage in philosophy, when he was utterly obliterated by SIIIG in a philosophical discussion, the debate is on RUclips, just type in 'Ali Dawah vs SIIIG."
Crystal Clear Contradictions in the bible
A book from God must have no contradictions
Jesus has paid the price for our sin ( John 3 : 16 )
We must repent for our sins ( Colossians 3 : 25 )
Jesus laid down his life for us ( 1 John 3 : 16 )
Jesus did not willingly die for our sins ( Matthew. 27 : 46 )
But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” ( Matthew 5:44 )
Jesus said “all who do not want me to rule over them, slay them (Luke 19:27)
The Christians say we are born in sin, but the bible says Sin can not be passed on ( Ezekiel 18 : 20 - 22 )
Salam from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Salam from Bangladesh brother! ❤️🇧🇩
Make shorts on this video.specially who limited the energy part
Sooo... still no evidence for this god claim... The same old debunked arguments.
where's part 2 cuhh the video ain't finished 👽💀 *edited ah yes... Alhamdulillah I did a teeeny winey research n dat, and dis vid 'ere:
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26:16 in ^ video is the same as 27:57 in this video. So, when this video finished, 28:09 is when the video mentioned (I showed the link) is @ 26:27 with plentiful more minutes to go, which may mean that the video I linked is the FULL version as this video stops here (28:09) 👽😌
Determinism does not change anything let me give you a example a trinagle means a thing with a three angles this is neccessary logically but if it is Red this is possible
Assalamualaikum
From Bangladesh 🇧🇩
the universe isn't composed of pieces
Yes it is, have you ever heard of matter and energy two of the basic components of the universe?
@@kenkaneki9138 does anything exist independently ?
@@robertjsmith Yes, God is independent. Thats the whole point of the video to point out that dependent things cannot always depend on something that in itself also depends on something.
For example, we depend on food and we can go back and say any carnivorous animal depends on other animals who depend on plants that depend on the sun etc etc.
So we can go back in an infinite dependent chains what does the universe depend on and what does the thing that the universe depends on depends on and you will fall into an infinite regress of dependency which does not make sense, why does it not make sense?
Because the universe exists and we exist!
If there is an infinite regress then that means there literally infinity happening before the universe exists much less we exist so do you see the problem yet? if there are infinity before us will it ever be our turn to ever exist if there is infinity happening before us?
Imagine this, a sniper has to ask his superior to shoot but the superior also has to ask his own superior to shoot and this chain goes on in infinite loops of superiors asking their superiors. Will the sniper ever shoot? Never! same thing with us we would never have existed. However there is no infinite superiors in reality and the same thing there has to be an independent thing that started the chain of dependency and we call that the necessary being or GOD!!
Even if you are not convinced the universe is not independent there is another huge problem. If the universe is indeed independent then that means it has always existed but here is the problem, there would be infinite amount of time before we exist and we fall into the same infinite regress fallacy because if there is infinite time before us we would never exist because there is literally infinite time before us so our turn will never come but we do exist! so there cannot be infinite regression but an independent thing outside the universe that began the chain..
There is also another problem if you think the universe is independent which is that science is very clear now the universe had a beginning around 13 billion years ago and anything that begins to exist by definition is Dependent.
There is no way around an independent necessary thing which we call God for anything in this world to make sense.
@@kenkaneki9138 if everything in the universe is dependent on everything else,it’s not made up of pieces
Cause and effect doesn’t exist it’s a mental construct
@@kenkaneki9138 leaving god out of it,there isn't a YOU and others,subject object is created by a sense of self which is an illusion.
this tow are very respectfull
wheres the next part?
Our concepts of infinity, existence, time and causation are not absolutes with which you can create or destroy theories. Why posit a complex, infinite, timeless, all loving, all powerful BEING as a creator?
Because it’s comforting
@@David-tr6xe Exactly ! Just as free will is comforting for religion, military and crime authorities.
@@petrospetroupetrou9653 You're deluded you didn't listen to anything at all
@@uamdz680 Tell me what to listen to and I will... which one?
@@petrospetroupetrou9653 there is a saying by one of Muslim intellect of 8th century that " I can beat 40 intellects with one fact but can not beat 1 ignorant with 40 facts"
Where’s the rest?
Plz add the eng subtitle
Infinite regression is illogical! There must be something infinite in terms of space and time. Like a one union entity with no parts. He is Allah!
its not "illogical"
Salam!
Can you plz give me those names?
The Idea behind the contingency argument is that you necessarily need nothing before something not all theists believe this nor is it currently scientific search Us crazy Christians Am I a creator like God? ( if you don’t capitalize I the video doesn’t show up) he gets into the definition of the word create in the original language of the Old Testament it’s probably the same kind of word in the Quran? There are 2 contexts in which the word contingent is used a water bottle is contingent it’s made out of other thing and the form must be guided and the other context of assuming non existence into something; the claim without God necessarily you’d have an infinite regress of things being made of other things is an unfalsifiable claim because the thing in question wouldn’t exist on that view.
I don’t understand Ali Dawah’s reasoning behind justifying his belief with what the science says that matter can’t be created nor destroyed in the atheist view there is a disbelief in God …they are saying the energy its self is independent he’s injecting God into the equation and in doing so irrationality is presented in holding too both claims because God can remove his independent nature allowing that thing too exist negating the claim that matter cant be created nor destroyed saying the term post eternal doesn’t fix the problem in fact it’s against your own position too say so that things have too come from nothing.
bears 25 the universe isn't made up of pieces,its one eco system
@@robertjsmith But an ecosystem is still composed of piece.
I do not understand why the men in the video do not agree. For me it just make sense that there has to be a necessary being, otherwise we would not exist.
@@robertjsmith an ecosystem is made up of pieces.
@@tranium67 EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE IS INTERCONNECTED
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Respect to hijab for clearly expressing his views. Ali coming across like a clown in first 10mins.
I don’t know what part of Ali was a clown but you sitting behind a screen being a keyboard warrior and making such claims sounds more like a clown
I thought he did well he is definitely improving and made a lot of good points
@@dabyo3883 exactly, a year ago or two maybe he lacked alot of knowledge but since recently you know hes been doing his research. cant pull a man down for trying
Can you give effective feedback instead? I’m struggling to see how he acts like a clown
Easy to say whilst ur sitting doing nothing. He is at least trying to be useful to the ummah.
At the end of the day religious people believe all the harmful nonsense written in religious texts because they are intimidated by their own beliefs and faithful of the empty promise of eternal happiness, because there is not life without death and happiness without unhappiness. I offer a unique understanding of reality without a horrible religious god and without ateism, with a perfect God that is pure love and hate with perfect justice with perfect knowledge because everything we do we do it to Ourself in perfect karma being the same Creator and different Creation for eternity Alive or Dead, if all life die and Time die to become an infinitely regretted memory of what God’s Life was, perfection without free will, success or failure, happiness or unhappiness, joy or suffering, foolishness or wisdom, life or death, like a perfect religious god, meaningless existence, God’s Death. Perfect God makes perfect sense because is for all lives the same and whoever lives by the lie would be tormented eternally on knowing the truth! Think of God as all past lives observing, experimenting everything and when we die we become the same Observer and different Creation to know the Absolute Truth, all reality of Time. The atemporal religious god doesn’t exists because Time is God Eternal Never Created. When Time was created? How much Time took to create Time? Reality is created After and never Before Infinite Time. It is possible to ignore the truth and impossible to ignore the consequences of ignoring the truth. The eternal hell for religious people would be harsher than for atheists because religion is more harmful than atheism to God, although at the end of the day it is how is understood and lived religion and atheism what determines the damage done to God. Is it possible to believe it is impossible to be wrong believing in an impossibility? A contradiction is an impossibility and a miracle is an impossibility that God makes possible, an act of God.
I can proof God’s existence doing the miracle of ending the dogmatic beliefs inmume to logic, common sense and emotional intelligence of atheism and religion to collapse mortality rates persuading humanity that the discovery of the nature of God, that coincides with our psychology and explains what we understand by hatred and love, is infinitely important for life, psychology, philosophy, theology, history of human thought, knowledge, and that logic is also a valid method to discover the truth or reality when the conclusion is that God exists and the religious god doesn’t. Is it possible to believe it is impossible to be wrong believing in an impossibility? God is the eternal intelligent Creator of the Creation or finitude. I exist therefore I was created or always existed and the creator was created or always existed, therefore eternal God exists because it is impossible the existence of an infinite sequence of causes and effects without a beginning of existence or infinite regress. Creation is what has a beginning of existence or effect and creator is the cause of the creation. I was created by my parents, that are the creation of my grandparents. I was created by my parents and I always existed because I am my parents that are my grandparents that are everything else impossibility possible miracle God. All comes from God being God, all is the same miraculous nature of eternal Time because Nothing existed before and Everything was created After.
MUHAMAD is gods , moon god
look at this,
these WORD without Moses even though he was the one who was sent
“Listen, Israel, the Lord is our God, only God, and you must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your being, and with all your strength.
This means that Moses is not equal to GOD
John 17:3,
this verse is about ETERNAL LIFE,
and to have ETERNAL LIFE has 2 conditions,
namely knowing the LORD ISRAEL and JESUS who was sent
[3] And this is eternal life:
[meaning] knowing (understanding, recognizing, knowing, and understanding) you,
The only true and real God, and [also] knowing Him, Jesus [as] Christ (the Anointed One, the Messiah), whom Thou hast sent.
it means JESUS is EQUAL with GOD HIMSELF
Whilst, the syahada
to become a Muslim, must mention M, who was sent,
and without mentioning M, then you cannot be called a MUSLIM.
These two sentences of creed are obligatory
when someone converts to Islam or becomes a Muslim.
"ASYHADU AN LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAH, WAASYHADUANNA MUHAMMADAR RASUULULLAH". 16 Jan 2022
I testify that there is none other than the Lord Allah. And I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah,
meaning MUHAMMAD is equal to allah according to THIS WORDS
and
Your book exists after 700 years of other books,
the suspicion of imitation is thick
I'm not sure if we understand the same english, cuz all of these are pretty clear it makes a distinction regardless of time the message stays the same
I'm going to assume English is not your first language. And if it is then you need to go back to school and relearn it. Nowhere in that sentence is Muhammed equalled to Allah. There is a distinction between the both. And it clearly states that Muhammed pbuh is the MESSENGER of Allah. Allah is not His own Messenger and He is not a man like Muhammed pbuh was. He is ONE. He is not begotten and He does not beget like Muhammad pbuh who was born and had children. You're confused. May God guide you to His truth. Ameen.
@@aishaarshadalam3412
I know they educate you like that
ASSOCIATIONS and IMITATIONS that show ARABIC DISEASES
that makes HUMANS made into GOD by Muslims not Christians,
the text says like that
TEXT, can't lie
THEY TRY, YOU just did not realize!
can being a muslim just say this:
ASYHADU AN LA ILAHA ILLALLAH
without the name MUHAMMAD
MUHAMMAD is just a figure made in arabic
he doesn't exist in any history
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This guy only wants to impress his girlfriend but hijab and Ali got him
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for f*** sake, but whatever men utter females do be attracted by men just speaking logic 👽💀🤦
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