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That’s a good question! I would have just used the Blum Tip-On magnetic door opener. I’ve used those on tons of cabinets where the client didn’t want door handles.
The wire pull is cool. I like it. A dowel push from the inside of the drawer would’ve been much simpler but sometimes it’s more fun when we pursue certain ideas
a note for the future, that sort of chemical cold blue is meant to have some oil put on the parts afterwards and then dried off, after which it becomes a very good rust prevention coating. plus it usually looks better afterwards
I would just put a spring loaded push stick in the hole he drilled for the pull string. Or affix a metal piece at the top corner of the door that just sticks out a little over the top with a small lip just big enough to use your finger to pull it open. It would be quite hidden and still give easy access to pull it open. Seems the string/components might break at some point and the struggle begins to open it up with something.
Then it would be completely invisible. Yours has a wire in the drawer. Someone will find it. But then thinking about this once you start getting into the cabinet you might not remember how to get at it so the cable is a reminder.
@@m_cabral sat between the two of them at a local meetup once while they talked making videos, the chemistry was odd, I definitely felt like a third wheel!
I love what you are doing. You should consider bike parts for the cable mechanisms. Steel lined tubes and derailleur cables would allow you to run many bends and angles but have little friction.
loved the OTT hidden mechanism.. you can get little plastic "channels" that help cable smoothly operate around corners.. that way you could have bought it to the front of the drawer.. it's like an elbow that the cable sits in and reduces friction compared to it rubbing on a metal eyelet. Just an idea.. great build
When I did taping I found it easier taping them together in the initial position where you figured out the layout. In that position all pieces are aligned already and no further allingment is necessary. After they are taped you can turn them around, as you wish.
I'm sure someone has already said it but be careful with sanding those "gold bolts". Thats cadmium plating and if it becomes airborne, it's bad news for the home team. Best way to remove cadmium plating is to sand it while its wet. Love the turnout though!!
Smart idea. Easier to move the table without the added weight of solid legs as well. Perhaps the outlets should be accessible through magnetized covers that are removed with "wands"? just a thought... ;-) Be well!
I had a great uncle who had an outhouse. When electricity arrived in his area, he put an overhead light in the outhouse in a bulb socket with a pull chain. He attached a string to the pull chain and attached a screen door spring to the door using some eye bolts. When you opened the door to enter, the light came on. When you opened the door to leave, the light went off. He had no running water in the house, but had a light in the outhouse. BTW, he also changed a lightbulb as fast as he could so that the electricity didn't run out of the empty hole 😂
I had a distant relative that got her first bill for the single light she had. She was so mad that she told her son to get that thing out of there or she was going to "unscrew the bulb and let that 'lectricity run all over the floor"! This was in the 60's and she still didn't have indoor plumbing.
What is it with you American woodworkers??? (I am from Denmark, and I watch 3 or 4 of you, which I enjoy) ...every now and then you ask, if using certain tools, or using screws or whatever makes you less of a "real woodworker".... You are professionals, you make a living out of woodwork. The tools you make are invented for use with wood, screws included. OF COURSE you are REAL woodworkers - it does not get any more real. You all seem to think, that using tools and techniques that have been invented after the year 1900 is cheating...... it is not. Knowing the older (and therefore more traditional, perhaps) techniques might come in handy now and then, but there is nothing wrong with using modern equipment. Keep up the good work 👍👍.
I also, on that same project, used my trim router as a little router table, and took a miniature ice cream scoop out of my trigger finger. It was inconvenient. Lol, I have been using gun bluing on hardware for 20 years. I thought I came up with it.
Ever done a hidden bookshelf hidden door? I would like to do one myself,even but need the BMW University RUclips class to show me how. So what I need you to make a video of is a recessed bookshelf that’s in a half wall area. So not all the way to the floor and about 4 foot tall. I think BMWU students would enjoy such a video. Bourbon moth woodworking university is a real thing.
“How do like that Norm Abrams?” 😂🤣😂 I spewed my coffee at that brother!!! You do incredible work Jason. Call professional movers to schlep that in the house
A tilting book on a shelf or a filp up head with a button or even one of those sliding magnets contraptions would have been much cooler to open the not so secret secret compartments 😁
This is the first video from your channel i have ever watched and i hit subscribe in the first 2 minutes. Love finding good new content creators to follow!
another reaaaaallly NICE build Jason! re: the size and getting into the room, this gal would just have built the last portions IN THE ROOM... so to skip need to rent the scissor-lift-thingy... but fortunately, always a few different ways to skin a cat - and your process worked perfectly for you. 😊 Thx for the great video, your fan L.
Great start to the build look forward to seeing it completed but…..there are specific flush fit, push to open/close euro hinges, I’m sure you knew this and just wanted to show us the old skool way to produce a TV cabinet with hidden whiskey storage! 😉
It might have been said. Eyelets are tiny rings like grinders. Eye bolts or eye screws are those things you just used. Love the hidden compartment door system.
At 25:53, if anybody thinks that it's not possible for stuff to have magically changed where it wouldn't fit any more, they haven't done enough woodworking yet lol
I feel like there was a missed opportunity to connect the end of the cable to a book or something on top the cabinet. When you have a hankering for your favorite bourbon, you grab the secret book and the door pops open like a hidden room in a Scooby Doo mystery.
The pre-aging finishes interesting. Have you ever tried ammonia tenting? I learned this from Gustav Stickley. Finding old timber had been exposed to animal urine for decades, which permeated the wood throughout. But I have done was used printers ammonia, which is very toxic by the way when you open the bottle, you better have gloves on and a respirator. You can use household ammonia, but it takes longer. Few ounces of printers ammonia in a tent of six mill plastic, overnight will do the job.
I am only half way through this video and I am wondering how this thing is getting in the room?? I hope we see this😳. I love your work! So I know it’s gonna be gorgeous
Hey Jason, could you make a hidden door, or something of that nature? It would be cool if you could either hide a whole room behind a book case, or even just hidden storage in plain sight ... Besides the storage you mad here of course.
You talked about why you did the MDF in the posts. And you talked about how heavy they were. But, could you have used a semi-hollow post? Just put the MDF blocks where you need the bulk for the mortise and tenons? That would make it a little lighter. Not much. But a little.
If i had any say, i would've put that hidden opening mechanism along the top of the hidden compartment, that way it was mostly unseen, and not obstructing the shelf area.
They make a sealer for using after your black oxide dunk that will fill in all the porosity left behind by the chemical reaction and prevent any further oxidation. It looks fantastic too, much better than the dirty black oxide that will always stain your fingers and wood.
29:09 "Now to figure out how to make these doors open" - Seems like a little push-to-open thingamabob installed on the inside would have done the trick quite easily.
I would engineered the finger hardware to mount to the top, so it doesn't interfere with the bottles or be the first thing you see when you open the hidden door.
Question... When you were making the posts and using the painters tape to get them together for gluing, I noticed you put a piece of tape on, put that face onto the table, and then aligned the next piece onto that tape. I'm curious why not place all of the boards with the outsides facing up (like you did when you were seeing how you wanted the grain to line up), and then apply the tape that way from the top?
Dominoes in this case are a good choice. I built something with Rabbets and Biscuits and the next morning discovered that the rabbets ate all of the biscuits.
For the secret opening mechanism, you could have used those premade mechanisms for kitchen kabinets... you push the door in both to close it and to open it......
I had the same question. I can only guess maybe just a classic case of over engineered? Added weight? 🤷🏻♂️ Let us know @bourbonmoth! Dude great build as always! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I thought it may have been easier to use a push button cabinet door opener...mainly because if the string breaks, you will have a time opening the doors
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I am surprised you did not use push to open door hinges.
I wondered about that too. Sometimes I think it’s his inventive vent that takes over
Likely a. to prevent their kid from accidently open the sides and b. just for the fun of it
Jason's solution is definitely more secret/secure. I was thinking RFID latches.
That’s a good question! I would have just used the Blum Tip-On magnetic door opener. I’ve used those on tons of cabinets where the client didn’t want door handles.
He explained why in an instagram story
Bourbon Moth is my new Saturday morning cartoons
I wish my kids felt the same way...
@@anewman513 what cereal pairs best?
The wire pull is cool. I like it. A dowel push from the inside of the drawer would’ve been much simpler but sometimes it’s more fun when we pursue certain ideas
I like this mechanism, it's simple, it's creative, it's well thought out.
a note for the future, that sort of chemical cold blue is meant to have some oil put on the parts afterwards and then dried off, after which it becomes a very good rust prevention coating. plus it usually looks better afterwards
They also make Aluminum Black for the aluminum parts
Cool idea on the opening mechanism for the secret door but you should’ve just bought push to open latches
Or glue a magnet on the internal side of the door and use a iron to pull it. I guess it should more simple.
I would just put a spring loaded push stick in the hole he drilled for the pull string. Or affix a metal piece at the top corner of the door that just sticks out a little over the top with a small lip just big enough to use your finger to pull it open. It would be quite hidden and still give easy access to pull it open. Seems the string/components might break at some point and the struggle begins to open it up with something.
Way too much time on that latch release. I would have also just put a push magnet latch.
Then it would be completely invisible. Yours has a wire in the drawer. Someone will find it. But then thinking about this once you start getting into the cabinet you might not remember how to get at it so the cable is a reminder.
Or maybe do it the way he did it
I knew Jason had a secret love for resin tables.
He and Cam are besties for sure.
@@m_cabral sat between the two of them at a local meetup once while they talked making videos, the chemistry was odd, I definitely felt like a third wheel!
@@danhigham1283I ship bourbontail
Lol
I love what you are doing.
You should consider bike parts for the cable mechanisms. Steel lined tubes and derailleur cables would allow you to run many bends and angles but have little friction.
Looks great! You can always use a pipe connector and screw the pipes together. Works well for larger projects.
loved the OTT hidden mechanism.. you can get little plastic "channels" that help cable smoothly operate around corners.. that way you could have bought it to the front of the drawer.. it's like an elbow that the cable sits in and reduces friction compared to it rubbing on a metal eyelet. Just an idea.. great build
When I did taping I found it easier taping them together in the initial position where you figured out the layout. In that position all pieces are aligned already and no further allingment is necessary. After they are taped you can turn them around, as you wish.
I'm sure someone has already said it but be careful with sanding those "gold bolts". Thats cadmium plating and if it becomes airborne, it's bad news for the home team. Best way to remove cadmium plating is to sand it while its wet. Love the turnout though!!
I built a walnut gaming table. I left the legs hollow, and wired it through the legs for outlets.
Smart idea. Easier to move the table without the added weight of solid legs as well.
Perhaps the outlets should be accessible through magnetized covers that are removed with "wands"? just a thought... ;-)
Be well!
I had a great uncle who had an outhouse. When electricity arrived in his area, he put an overhead light in the outhouse in a bulb socket with a pull chain. He attached a string to the pull chain and attached a screen door spring to the door using some eye bolts. When you opened the door to enter, the light came on. When you opened the door to leave, the light went off. He had no running water in the house, but had a light in the outhouse. BTW, he also changed a lightbulb as fast as he could so that the electricity didn't run out of the empty hole 😂
I had a distant relative that got her first bill for the single light she had. She was so mad that she told her son to get that thing out of there or she was going to "unscrew the bulb and let that 'lectricity run all over the floor"! This was in the 60's and she still didn't have indoor plumbing.
Boy, Iver is going to be popular when he turns 16. All his friends will watch your videos to find your various “secret whisky” storage
The blacktail studios reference at the beginning had me cackling
What is it with you American woodworkers???
(I am from Denmark, and I watch 3 or 4 of you, which I enjoy)
...every now and then you ask, if using certain tools, or using screws or whatever makes you less of a "real woodworker"....
You are professionals, you make a living out of woodwork. The tools you make are invented for use with wood, screws included. OF COURSE you are REAL woodworkers - it does not get any more real.
You all seem to think, that using tools and techniques that have been invented after the year 1900 is cheating...... it is not. Knowing the older (and therefore more traditional, perhaps) techniques might come in handy now and then, but there is nothing wrong with using modern equipment.
Keep up the good work 👍👍.
I think it’s typically mentioned in jest.
You are probably right - that just does not come about clearly 🙈. Irony is very difficult to catch.
@@hulkthedane7542 just watch more of Jason - once you calibrate his humor, and personality.. all will be cool. But PLEASE keep commenting Sir, L.
I also, on that same project, used my trim router as a little router table, and took a miniature ice cream scoop out of my trigger finger. It was inconvenient. Lol, I have been using gun bluing on hardware for 20 years. I thought I came up with it.
Ever done a hidden bookshelf hidden door? I would like to do one myself,even but need the BMW University RUclips class to show me how. So what I need you to make a video of is a recessed bookshelf that’s in a half wall area. So not all the way to the floor and about 4 foot tall. I think BMWU students would enjoy such a video. Bourbon moth woodworking university is a real thing.
“How do like that Norm Abrams?” 😂🤣😂 I spewed my coffee at that brother!!!
You do incredible work Jason. Call professional movers to schlep that in the house
The funny thing is Norm actually caught some flack back in the day for using power tools and stuff.
Great choice in bourbon. I have a nice collection of original W.L. Weller and Old Weller.
I loved your idea that you came up with for your hidden cabinet doors. Great video, Jason. Thanks.
It looks great. I wouldn't extend the beams. I love that you can see the original carpenter's markings on there. Oil would look great on the ceiling.
A tilting book on a shelf or a filp up head with a button or even one of those sliding magnets contraptions would have been much cooler to open the not so secret secret compartments 😁
This is the first video from your channel i have ever watched and i hit subscribe in the first 2 minutes. Love finding good new content creators to follow!
I. Love. The. Opening. Scene. 😂😂😂
I love both of your channels 😅❤
Cam Blacktail Studio good choice to watch.
another reaaaaallly NICE build Jason!
re: the size and getting into the room, this gal would just have built the last portions IN THE ROOM... so to skip need to rent the scissor-lift-thingy... but fortunately, always a few different ways to skin a cat - and your process worked perfectly for you. 😊
Thx for the great video,
your fan L.
Always learning new stuff and new techniques. Thanks Jason.
Great start to the build look forward to seeing it completed but…..there are specific flush fit, push to open/close euro hinges, I’m sure you knew this and just wanted to show us the old skool way to produce a TV cabinet with hidden whiskey storage! 😉
This stuff is so cool. I think the world needs to you to link up with Nick Offerman for some woodworking fun.
Absolutely, that would be awesome.. - but most likely, Nick Offerman would carve this out from a log 😂
Another alt to the hidden door release; spring catches, similar to bath medicine cabinet doors: just push and it pops open.
But that wouldn't have taken an entire day to design and build!
@@thomprd The real question: how long before the kids figure out the catch?
The MDF may be a bit of overkill but I like overkill. Thanks for the video.
Oops just got to the part where you thought the mdf might be a bit much.
Refreshing "change of scenery" with this brand new innovative project 🤩🤩🤩 Awesome!
Love the hidden storage! Looking great so far.
Mrs Robinson ideal cabinet design.
40:22 eye bolts is correct.
It's so dang fun to watch you do this! Clever, clever stuff.
Your wife is an incredibly lucky woman! The pieces you build are not only beautiful, but also so FUNctional, emphasis on FUN, lol
It might have been said. Eyelets are tiny rings like grinders. Eye bolts or eye screws are those things you just used.
Love the hidden compartment door system.
This is the room we send the kids to. And this is where we are putting the sectet bourbon storage.
at that size, those are eye screws. the "crimp things" are ferrules. very cool cabinet
black sharpie on the wire crimps would make them disappear. love the project so far!
For the hidden doors: Push-to-open magnet latches. A bear to adjust, but once they are they work great.
Not necessary
@@daveklein2826 Thank you for the well thought out and descriptive reply.
That spine arch at 17:30 threw out MY back.
At 25:53, if anybody thinks that it's not possible for stuff to have magically changed where it wouldn't fit any more, they haven't done enough woodworking yet lol
I'm sure this has something to do with science and physics and biology but you never know 😄
Great build. Gotta make sure you put some Old Elk in there ;). Colorado staple right there. Also, dang, the knee thrust is new territory.
Love how you and Cam give each other shit.
Spring loaded magnetic latch is an option, it’s how I installed an access panel on a tile tub surround
I saw the intro...... do you and Cam need a room? Just kidding, this is a classic BROMANCE!!!!!
That looks great. Love the compartments 😊 God Bless 😊
That is going to be a great looking cabinet.
My two cents: fitting the swinger arms on your top rail would be a cleaner look. Cool idea nonetheless!
I feel like there was a missed opportunity to connect the end of the cable to a book or something on top the cabinet. When you have a hankering for your favorite bourbon, you grab the secret book and the door pops open like a hidden room in a Scooby Doo mystery.
push to open mechanism. cheap, small, perfect for that application.
French farmhouse style? sounds like a good reason for a trans-Atlantic fact-finding trip!
Loved this video! Exited to see the rest of it
16:00 "Hip" thrust? ?? ??? GREAT project, so far, Jason! !! !!!
“How do ya like that Norm Abrams?” 😂😂😂
The pre-aging finishes interesting. Have you ever tried ammonia tenting? I learned this from Gustav Stickley. Finding old timber had been exposed to animal urine for decades, which permeated the wood throughout. But I have done was used printers ammonia, which is very toxic by the way when you open the bottle, you better have gloves on and a respirator. You can use household ammonia, but it takes longer. Few ounces of printers ammonia in a tent of six mill plastic, overnight will do the job.
Use Push-to-Open magnetic door latches. Super simple.
Not necessary
Norm would have agreed- he was a fan of his brad nailer and screws, and I'm sure his workpieces are holding up just fine.
They have those push locks, where you'd just push the door and it'd pop open.
I am only half way through this video and I am wondering how this thing is getting in the room?? I hope we see this😳. I love your work! So I know it’s gonna be gorgeous
Dove Tails on those secret storage back panels would’ve been sick. Me living vicariously through your wood working talent. 😂
37:24 Total "Rube Goldberg" for a push latch!❤😂😊
Watching Cam on the tv intro was hilarious.
Hey Jason, could you make a hidden door, or something of that nature? It would be cool if you could either hide a whole room behind a book case, or even just hidden storage in plain sight ... Besides the storage you mad here of course.
Swingers, small bolts, and tight holes. Yep, another wholesome BMWW video. 😂🎉
Nice work! Keep it up!
You talked about why you did the MDF in the posts. And you talked about how heavy they were. But, could you have used a semi-hollow post? Just put the MDF blocks where you need the bulk for the mortise and tenons? That would make it a little lighter. Not much. But a little.
If i had any say, i would've put that hidden opening mechanism along the top of the hidden compartment, that way it was mostly unseen, and not obstructing the shelf area.
Tip, maybe use a small magnet to help hold the secret door closed?
He just showed you that it's not necessary
I'm sure your whisky hideouts are secret, Jason, and only you know the opening system. I look forward to the next episode.
The pillars are hefty.
They make a sealer for using after your black oxide dunk that will fill in all the porosity left behind by the chemical reaction and prevent any further oxidation. It looks fantastic too, much better than the dirty black oxide that will always stain your fingers and wood.
29:09 "Now to figure out how to make these doors open" - Seems like a little push-to-open thingamabob installed on the inside would have done the trick quite easily.
brown or black Sharpie pen will take the shine off of your aluminum crimps :)
Nice Spencley thumbs up shot!
I loved the spring achen
I would engineered the finger hardware to mount to the top, so it doesn't interfere with the bottles or be the first thing you see when you open the hidden door.
Norm used glue and screws way more than fancy joinery. He even used drywall screws frequently. I am confident this would be Norm approved. 🐐
The cabinet Craig made would look good there.
Question... When you were making the posts and using the painters tape to get them together for gluing, I noticed you put a piece of tape on, put that face onto the table, and then aligned the next piece onto that tape. I'm curious why not place all of the boards with the outsides facing up (like you did when you were seeing how you wanted the grain to line up), and then apply the tape that way from the top?
Man those four miter wrap around pieces sure look like enough solid oak to just glue up those beams….
Dominoes in this case are a good choice. I built something with Rabbets and Biscuits and the next morning discovered that the rabbets ate all of the biscuits.
Or you could have used "Push open magnetic latches" a staple of European media consoles of the late 70s early 80s.
For the secret opening mechanism, you could have used those premade mechanisms for kitchen kabinets... you push the door in both to close it and to open it......
Can you show us the price breakdown for a project like this? Love the videos! And what a beautiful build
Whiskey storage is a good. The kids can get their own drinks when you send them watch TV.
i cant wait for part 2
German smear, French farm house , what next Egyptian pyramids? Dutch wind mills ?😂
Curious why you needed the mdf in the middle? Wouldn’t it be strong enough without it?
I had the same question. I can only guess maybe just a classic case of over engineered? Added weight? 🤷🏻♂️ Let us know @bourbonmoth! Dude great build as always! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The same company (Birchwood Casey) makes an aluminum coating (Alumiblack) for the ferrules.
I thought it may have been easier to use a push button cabinet door opener...mainly because if the string breaks, you will have a time opening the doors
29:30 Prime ADD hyperfocal thinking 😄
30:25 Prime ADD risk management 😅
I love your garage
Blacktail is cool… I love you both lol
Please make a "Zip Zap Zoop" Shirt! That needs to be the Bourbon moth catch phrase.