If Burke did it , then who's DNA is found in the blood of John Benets underwear? It was that of an unidentified male. It had to be someone who knew the family and their way around the house. Especially her bedroom!
This sounds a little crazy but I believe that it was someone from their Christmas party. They could have stayed in the house while the party was happening and explore or possibly knew the house before. Could’ve murdered her at night. That explains why there was no sign of a break in
Adrianna Soph I was thinking that same thing. They could have easily walked/snuck away from everyone and hid until All was clear (of everyone afterwards) and they knew the home very well. My thing also is, if patsy woke up the next morning and basically went right by Jon Bennett’s room (and if the door was open), wouldn’t she notice and go check on her? You would think so. I know if I get up in the morning, the first thing I would do is go into my child’s bedroom to wake them or check on them. I mean the stairs where the ransom note was was right there. I think patsy had a hand in it somehow.
Pearl the rebel me either it’s easy to see how someone wouldn’t hear anyone get in the house the rooms Are spaced far apart and the murder took place three stories down
@@staceyleenagavard7051 so some stranger just knew all the rooms? How could they know that the next room the entered wouldnt be the parents room? That's a huge risk. They had to know exactly where Jonbenet's room was out of that whole house. Without waking anyone. Then they collected all the writing materials needed, tpok the time to write a draft ransom note, then write out the final ransom note, found the paint brush, made a toggle rope, had Jonbenet eat pineapple?? Then killed here without disturbing anyone. Yall really think that's possible? Yeah fucking right. I know my house inside and out but I'll still make noise in the dark. I dont believe for one sec an intruder was in that house and made so few mistakes that not a shred of proof of their existence was left behind
11,000 sq ft. In this video she says 7K square feet but I think that was before the renovations the Ramseys made. 2.5 M $ house today and they bought it for 500K in 91. Crazy
The house that big to me is not a home! I would b too scared in such a big house! You would be constantly making sure Windows and doors r locked! Or make sure the alarm is on at all times!
Because her room was so hidden in the corner, so someone who knows this house had something to do with it or even outsiders who studied the structure of the house
Man. When I was Jonbenet's age I remember being scared at night, because my parents slept upstairs and I slept downstairs. I can only imagine what it was like for her in that massive house. Poor kiddo.
@@bretth4988Exactly! Apparently it takes a loving and caring parent to realize this. Creepy ass parents! The little girl had a problem wetting her bed too. Gee I wonder why. Poor little girl! My kids would NEVER have been able to sleep like that!!! I'm sure she voiced that she was scared and then she was told to suck it up. Child abuse. Unfortunately there are people who have kids and still act kid free because they don't want the kid to interrupt their lives.
I couldn't live there if they gave me the house for free and I'm poor and live in an apartment. Strangely Televangelist Robert Schuller of the Crystal Cathedral's daughter, Carol Milner and her husband Tim bought the John Ramsey house of all people. They say "it's a wonderful place to live now": New owner of the JonBenet Ramsey murder house opens up about making a home at the site of one of America's most notorious cold cases. Tim and Carol Milner and their five children moved into the home once owned by the Ramsey family in 2004 Mrs Milner, the daughter of the late televangelist Robert Schuller, says the house feels like home now, despite it's dark history that appears to contradict real estate records that show the Milner family have tried to sell the home on at least four different occasions.
@@eden3679 The new owners took down ALL the basement walls so now it's just one giant beautiful room with stone walls. I'd still be creeped out though.
@@eden3679 she was placed there in the basement..the investigation wasn't botched. It was planned the way it happened. Ask the 1st female detective(who was new on her job) as a deterrent. She has a video on line she basically said the dad was guilty & she knew it when she talked to him. Only God saw what happened to this beautiful child. & the dad..
Creepy as hell, and notice how her room is far away from everybody else’s, easy to abuse her without alerting anyone quickly. It’s one of the only cases that gives me dark vibes, something wicked and cruel went down that night and the little girl fought back.
@@ldcharper8536 I miss my mom & I'm in my late 50's. I think the missing never goes away..she passed from misdiagnosed colon cancer. It should not have happened. Life is just not right anymore..her spirit is here, that I know..I talk to her in prayer a lot. Bless you, I understand where ur coming from, grief sucks. My mom lost her mom @ age 10 so that was a grandmother I never knew. How anyone could process losing a child I'll never know..I would probably pass out & end up in a coma. Who parades thier daughter on a stage in beauty pageants (that she didn't want to be in) wearing a 30 yr olds make up? Putting deep red lipstick on a 5-6 yr old, attracts pedos.
@@redlikewineagain697 Many people who live in nice areas don't secure their home, especially when they're already inside it...and especially 25 years ago. Lol
Just seeing the house and having them explain how the murderer would have walked done the stairs and everything really gives me the chills...idk even tho it was so long ago, idk hoe anyone could live in that house again.
ill never understand why the kid's rooms were on a lower floor than the killers. shit .. I mean parents😔 my son would be sleeping above me just for the simple fact that if somebody was to break in, they would literally have to go through me.
spooky katt first of all patsy wrote the note and secondly the dna is not a single profile from one individual and its only a very small amount anyways.
Yes. That shocked me too. A bathroom for a six year old? We had one bathroom in my household. But we were working class. Couldn't afford a mansion like this.
The front of that house sure is deceiving to the actual size of it, it is huge!!! I could never sleep on a different floor to my children. Maybe once they were teenagers, but never small children.
Thats why some people think it was someone that knows the family and the layout of their house. They had parties there all the time. Like their annual Christmas party on December 23rd 3 days before Jonbenets body was found
Not to mention the killer had hours to walk around the house before the Ramseys came home. It has even been said that because that house is so big and there are so many rooms someone could have been hiding in there for days and no one would ever know.
@@AndyFelbabI always thought the Santa that was at the party looked like a creep and that the man that was a transient that lived in the basement of the neighbors house across the street were good suspects. Authorities said though that the Santa was too elderly and in too bad of shape because of recent heart surgery to commit such a strenuous act. But both men were at the party on the 23rd I have read.
It hurts my heart to think about how scared she must have been down there. My basement growing up had a finished side and an unfinished side. My dad used the unfinished side as a work space for his woodworking projects. It has concrete walls on 3 sides and it creeped me out until I was, probably 12 yrs old.
Exactly! There were at least 6 hand writing experts that said Patsy wrote the note. Everything points to Burke hitting her on the head in a fit of anger, and the parents thinking she was dead, staged the strangling to protect Burke. The parents actually killed her.
It's a house people walk around there house and believe it or not they walk down the stairs to I know its crazy🙄 u could see a washer and dryer in the basement meaning obviously they will go down there...what did u expect em to do leave it on the kitchen table? Not to mention the dead fucking body downstairs thst was gonna be found as well and the fact the daughter was gone any normal parent would search the whole house looking for the kid god damn.....but good point detective 😂😂
Not everyone is that clingy and needy. My nephew is 8 now but he liked his own company. Plenty of other people have weird houses that mean the kids aren’t close. Doesn’t mean anything
@@ryancalhoun2910 The first cop that arrived at the scene stated that the dad gave her the most evil look and she said she knew that he was the one who did it..
I have always had an eerie feeling about that house.. It is one creepy, huge house, PERFECT for someone to hide..3 floors and a basement. Someone could be in the house and you wouldn't know it.
I agree. I get the feeling of not being safe in that house. They also didn't secure the house when they left and probably while they slept. Very dumb and careless.
Imagine how scared she was every night being so far away from anyone else’s bedroom and all alone . With a door that goes outside . I would have been terrified as a kid
The wine cellar was a very secluded place and Jonbenet had her head forcefully cracked open in that house for a reason. (The 'killer' wanted to make sure she was dead because her body was not COLD yet!) That little six year old had been sexually violated for quite some time and she was getting big enough to tell on her perpetrator. John Ramsey also had political ambitions and the Ramsey family had to maintain their image in the community and this family had a dark secret. This is why John is always smiling and cordial in public even when he is talking about his little daughters brutal murder. It's all about maintaining that image. And this brutal murder was no accident! It never was a ransome either! These people were wealthy, the entrepreneur father was smart, and they had two young children. The mansion had an alarm system and the doors were left unlocked on Christmas day with presents under the tree and two young children sleeping on a lower floor. GO FIGURE!
This case just smells so bad. A, it's warped to have your kids where you can't hear them. Second, something's wrong, you *bypass* your kid's rooms to conveniently find the fake, very contrived "Gone with the Wind" of ransom letters...which just happens to be on the stairs the family always uses? Kidnappers don't write nonsensically, dumbed down long letters. Pasty sounds like she's badly acting at every turn. Talk to any mother who loses her child. You can see it right there all the time. No matter if it were today or 30 years ago. This one looks like she had an easy life. 118k ransom to the penny, huh? Yeah. Bull. Dad's bonus. Hm. Unlikely anyone but mom would know about that one. Ransom note off HER notepad? Yeah. HER Sharpie? Kidnappers aren't going to do that. No one in history has EVER done that. Give us money, period. And 118k is like nothing to them, so again, bull. Rope OVER sleeves? Again, weird. You hire not only defense lawyers, but a PR team? Bull. If the kid killed her, nothing much would happen, anyway. They would have known that. Police were a joke, I'm sorry. They allow a body to be moved TWICE, one that they MISSED for 6 HOURS?? Come on. Not possible to be that incompetent. They let people stomp all over the crime scene? Brilliant. And wtf calls all their friends over like it's a barbeque? Who uses a garotte to kill a small child? Any grown person could do it without one. And fake kidnappers don't get paid if she's dead, do they?
And look at how strange this house layout is! A stranger would get lost in there. This whole things will continue to smell fishy until someone starts telling us the truth. The whole world is not stupid. All the things they want to blame on another person can be said for a cover up as well. That's the worst part. The ransom note. No one is going to sit and write a book about wanting money from you. Patsy's handwriting matches to a T literally. If there was an intruder he gets an award for the dumbest intruder on earth. Not to mention how the police handled this from start to end. It was HORRIFYING!! It seemed this poor sweet innocent angel was doomed to ever getting justice. I think about her often. So sorry to her. I would also like to say that we all could be wrong. It could have been a very stupid intruder. And if that's the case I apologize to the Ramsey family for ever thinking they could do this to their little girl. I want so badly to believe they are innocent. Always have and always will. But until I am given mind blowing , concrete new evidence (touch dna doesn't count) I remain firm on my last stance.
And the Santa man had one of his kids kidnapped 20 years before..thats where they got the idea for that...i think think she was nervous writing the note or on top of spinning washer to look bad. Who would not check the WHOLE house when house had been broke in???? He just sat there and after hours had to be told to! And pasty?? Neither one checked??? Either they did it or someone they know .
How on earth this mystery can be solved.the sequence of the 911 call by Patsy clearly shows she wanted an ambulance even many hours before they found JBR dead body. Why she mentioned " what did you do"? None of them went im search of JBN inside or outside the house.no friends of them mentioned about it.The torch, the paint brush , and all the elements used were belonging to the family.No outside stuff found in the crime scene. Pineapple piece found inside her bowels .Patseys fingerprints were found on the bowl and not Jonnbents. The kidnapper never called any time? Why would Ramseys call friends even when the kidnapper had mentioned in the so called note that not to talk to anyone.it is staged for sure. How on earth parents did not show up for so many immediate interrogations that would have helped them to solve the case.Three months to appear for an interrogation or beyond that.
There never intended to be a ransom with the girl found in the furthest room in the basement of that gaudy place. Someone in that house knows exactly what happened that night.
Yes! Odd a ransom was demanded and the same amount as John’s bonus, a 2.5 page note written but she wasn’t taken from the house and no call was made at 10am per the note.
Exactly!!!! How did they not hear a single thing? They had too! They were dragging the poor girl down the stairs. And the person who did this to the poor girl knew exactly where everything in the house was. How would they know to put her in a concrete cement enclosed closet? I think her mom did it. I have this gut feeling. I’m sure her mom was jealous of her daughter because she had everything. And I’m sure she was pushed by her mom to do pageants and to act a certain way. I think this has been going on so long that the mom has rehearsed every detail in her mind. I definitely don’t think it was the brother. There is absolutely no way because he would not have been able to drag her body down the stairs.
You’re gonna try to tell me a random intruder knew how to get around that house, kidnapped, murdered, AND stayed around to write a 2 1/2 page ransom note.... Yeah inside job.
Yeah they could. A big house, with not many people in it (tired mom and dad in one room) and Jon Bennets little brother in another. Its very possible to navigate without being detected in a mansion like that
If anyone did any research on this case at all, they would know her wrists were not bound with duct tape, and she did have a cord tied around her neck, and around her wrists. There was some duct tape on her mouth.
To have your six year old daughter’s room next to a balcony… and far away from your own room…. Im surprised the intruder didn’t escape from the balcony with JonBenét
There is NO way a random person could find their way around that house in the dark to a little girl's room and then know their way again to a basement room to put the body. I mean all of the weird twists and turns in that house is unreal. It absolutely was either someone who lived in the house or knew the house very, very, very well. Don't get me started on the botched investigation.
I think that the police should have done mandatory DNA swab of all close male friends of the family who knew where Jon Benets room was and the layout of the house. They would have probably found the killer!
Any DNA found on her body would be considered invalid evidence, because the parents invited their friends to the house to help find her. It would be possible that their DNA was transferred during the search, rather than during the murder. This is why it was such a huge mistake of the police to not block off the crime scene immediately.
Exactly! They should've tested Everyone at that Christmas party children included to distinguish their DNA. I'm sure the cops didn't do that. The Ramsey's put JonBenet to bed with No Bath that night after the party & only later changed her pjs so the DNA could easily have come from the party goers. And Uncle John better have been tested as well since it was his suitcase under the window with the semen blanket & Dr Seuss book & he was in town.
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After the police and the district attorney at the time, screwed up, the State investigators came in, they took "DNA of every known person to have any contact " with JonBenet, including all the family members, because there was sperm found in her underwear, on a Garrote that was used to kill her, and cord used to tie her up, "the DNA did not match any know person"
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Emerald "idoit" Isabella, So the DNA found in her underwear, is " invalid evidence", You, like most of the idiots that post on here can't deal with FACTS !
I guess sometimes less is more. I wouldn’t want my kids spread that far from me and their mother. And definitely wouldn’t want her with a private balcony at that age.
I agree. Lot’s of people build two story homes today with master suite down stairs and other bedrooms upstairs which is crazy. I was always afraid of fire or a break in. But I think the huge master suite in the Ramsey home was the only bedroom on top floor. In that case you would need “baby” monitor’s all over the second floor.
It's been almost 24 years since this happened and it's still shocking to me. Today I went and visited her grave. This baby would've been about to celebrate her 30th birthday next month and maybe even enjoying her children if she decided to have some. I really hope they find out who took her precious life. And I hope if or when they do, them monster is still alive to face justice.
I love my teeny house, with my young girls just on the other side of my bedroom wall. I'm not an overprotective mom at all, but they belong close yo you at that age. How the hell do you comfort your kid when they're having a nightmare, or check up at them real quick when you wake up every now and then when they are so far away...? Not saying it's the reason this happened or that it could not happen when it would be the room next to the parents, but having my young child so far away from me (or at least a responsible family member) at night would not feel natural or save at all to me.
spooky katt Virtue signaling? Envious? Someone in that house was sexually abusing her for months, murdered her and then they all lied about it together. Not a life any of us would want to have.
When I was little, my room was on the first floor, and my mom, dad, and sister slept on the second. I was terrified to sleep by myself, I can't imagine how Jonbenet felt so far from her family in that gigantic house.
Could you imagine locking that many doors every night? I'd have to live in a gated community with security on my property to feel safe in such a big house. But this is 25 years later and society has lost its mind.
I drove by it a couple of years ago and there is a lot of trees and bushes blocking the house's view from the street. I was also surprised at how close the house was from the street after seeing so many pics and video of the place. It's difficult to tell how large the place is when you view it from the street. Everything on video looks bigger than it is.
This house was built for evil activities. Notice in a couple of photos the black & white checkered floor. That is freemasonic, freemasons are evil. John no doubt was a freemason, as well as many of his associates. The house also gives off the "business in front, party in the back" evil vibe. I'd say lots of bad things happened there that we don't know about.
Yes! And a huge build on in back with added story. It was a showplace on the tour we just watched but crazy all the rooms in basement, like a maze! Too many ways for people to get in and hide. This was probably a hundred or more year old house.
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Especially block foundation dug beneath ground an not fan forced heat with venting,just boiler pipe pushing heated water so each level was sealed up well. Like four gymnasiums stacked with block dividers,like a factory..
You would think that if an intruder went to all the trouble to write that sprawling 3 page ransom note, then they would have thought enough to have planned to exit the house from one of those 9 exterior doors or 100 windows, especially since the girl had a balcony attached to her bedroom. There would be no reason for an intruder to take her to the basement and kill her, then still not taking to body to possibly still collect the ransom. Why would an intruder just give up at the point where they were ready to collect the money. I feel on my gut that John did this with Patsy covering for him.
John was molesting Jonbenet. She fought back or threatened to tell, and he lost it and hit her. Then they had to cover it up by staging it as an intruder/murder scene.
You don't know the case. That's a stupid theory. Think about this. The Ramsey's had a private plane. If they killed her they could have just left. Why would they call police on THEMSELVES? NO ONE WOULD HAVE EVER KNOWN SHE WAS GONE. All they had to do was fly away and go stay at their other home. They could have left the country for that matter.
A variety of locks on doors and windows....well not apparently the one in the basement. Odd isn’t it you’d have a home this big and after purposely breaking a window, you never get it fixed. With money like his and small children like he had, you would be more aware. I’m still on the fence but that is really odd behaviour for a grown successful man with a family to protect.
And glass laying around with kids in house! He said he broke window one interview couples months back ...another one he says a year! Not only that he said he stripped down ...didnt want to dirty his clothes ...and climbed in!!! How without getting shards of glass in his butt!
I would never want to have my bedroom on a different floor from those of my children. And to have a child’s room looking out on a balcony with all those glass windows? Yikes!
I think the dad was doing stuff to the daughter and that’s why the daughters room is really far away. To keep from anyone hearing. Maybe one night he got mad and that was it.
So the room JBR was found in was covered by plywood. How on earth did someone find this room? How on earth did they know? This house is huge....you would have to have a good sense of the layout to be undetected. Strange.
Clearly the person that killed her knew the floor plan of the house and the fact that she was nowhere near her parents room and he probably wouldn’t be caught
Reminds me of a study years ago about the benefits of a small house for raising children. I remember it because we were shoe horned into the smallest house allowed in our city at the time 🇨🇦
Judging by the size of the house and where the occupants' rooms were located, suggests that the killer had been in the Ramseys house before. Meaning he/she knew where JonBenet would be. Could be a relative, or a neighbor, or a family friend. The killer was intent on Jonbenet. This was personal for him/her in some way...
I didn't know the house was that big they said there was no sign of forced entry but in a house this size with 4 people a intruder could've easily just hid in there
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That is wrong, The basement window was open and there was a scuff mark on the wall above the window, as if someone climbed out the window (Crime scene video, basement window starts at 6:07) ruclips.net/video/KPAm0RQo5TQ/видео.html
No wonder they heard nothing, never realise parents bedroom so far away, intruder must have went in when they were out and check out whole house, he had long time to write letter
Hate big houses. You never know if a stranger is in them. Hate basements. The fact a stranger can walk around that huge house in the dark knowing where to go, from bedroom all the way to basement down staircases, hallways etc carrying a child without a sound is baffling.
If you read Steve Thomas's book about the case he brings up some interesting evidence. Like why was Patsy wearing the same clothes the next morning that she wore at the Xmas party the previous night? She never went to bed that night and she didn't think to change her clothes since she was busy doing something all night. Also, neighbors said they saw lights on inside the house all night that usually were never left on. And if an intruder really broke in then why create the evidence of the ransom note and leave it neatly on the stairs when it was useless since the body was left in the basement? It is obvious the ransom note was a diversion. Say for example there was no ransom note, then it's much harder to explain away the murder was by an intruder. And the basement window wasn't an access point because it was full of cobwebs that would have been disturbed by a person going through it.
Not even from his book will you know this info..I'm 38 so I know all of that and more. I was 12 when this happened and it's a crazy family coverup imo.
Firstly, everyone stays up most of the night getting presents wrapped and put under the tree. Patsy would have been up even longer and stayed dressed because she went all out on Christmas. The cobweb on the window isn't a fact and cobwebs can be spun in a few hours.
And JB was alive on the 25th and they saw her alive and put her to bed and all..why they have engraved the 25th as the day of her death? They've found her on the 26th. They must have known she was dead on the 25th, before midnight...
Just by the sheer size of the house,you can easily see how someone could hide inside. Especially with those maze like corridors and clumbed up rooms on the second floor, i mean.....jonbenets room door was like 30 meters away from the parents bed,thats way too much to hear anything.even her brothers room is on the opposite side of the house on her floor(2nd floor). Too many doors for entry and family was way to far apart in my opinion.
@@jilltheprivateinvestigator3328 guy had plenty of time to write the note and to learn the layout of the house while the ramseys where at white's house xmas dinner (atleast 3-4 hours time window). Some monster was looking at that girl at all those pageants she competed. RIP Jonbenet,hopefully we find out who did this but i doubt it will ever be solved.
@@jilltheprivateinvestigator3328 i think the original plan was to kidnap the girl,but something mustve happened,maybe she was making too much noise so he bashed her head in? He got lucky tho because the skull fracture didnt bleed outside so we cant really know where he did this.the ransom note kinda looks like Patsy wrote it but the majority of experts disagreed and she passed the test.lots of movies references in the note(the movie ransom by mel gibson was out that year and ramseys barely watched tv as they led very busy lives).the exact bonus for john ramsey of 118000$ which is how much the intruder wrote could be explained too. The check was located in the first hall past the front door on a shelf.its possible the intruder saw it while he was sniffing around the house(or somebody did it who knew johns bonus that year). The sum requested is too low anyway,he could've asked for more but like i said.....kidnapping and ransom wasnt his main plan.Just to divert.....but jonbenet fought back and here we are...... Imho. Boulder Police made a number of mistakes the next day and thats why i doubt this case will ever be solved.
Of all the rooms in that house, what are the chances that the very first room John Ramsey looked in was where he found his murdered daughter? Also, the parents' bedroom was the remodeled attic - which is why it's so enormous
"At that moment, the Police should have done its Job!!!" It's so obvious that the Ramseys knew what happened to JonBenét... Too much *red flags* in this case!
The parents were involved. Btw, nobody writes a "ransom note" in the same house they kidnapped someone from with THEIR OWN NOTEBOOK STATIONARY. ALSO, no "small foriegn faction" would call themselves that. Folks overthink this.
And the pen and notebook were put away, separately. Also, I think there was a practice note(s) in the trash. Patsy's paintbrush was used for the garrote. Patsy's handwriting could not be ruled out. And the note was "caring" towards John, really weird.
I’m thinking there was some sort of child selling going on. Possibly more with the father, maybe something went wrong and he killed her or she was killed by accident because of the arrangement. Kinda seemed like they were going to just hide her in that concrete room in hopes nobody would find her. Maybe his conscience got the better of them.
Patsy told John to torch it, but they ended up selling years later (they did not stay in the home during those years) and the new owner completely remodeled it. If you google the address (which was changed from 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO to 749 15th Street) you can see all the pictures of the remodel on Realtor.com, etc. The basement is pretty gorgeous now, even though I would NEVER be able to be anywhere near that basement (or inside the house for that matter).
Interesting where she was found in the basement, as from I understand, the Dad basically opened the door and said he found her as he clicked on the light. I thought she was at the foot of the stairs or in the corner of that room. (2:00 for reference where the door or cabinets are on the left is where i assumed he found her, not the end of the hallway in another room) That man must've had bounceable vision to be able to see around corners.
I’d be scared to leave my 6 year kid in a room that far away with a balcony. That’s just really strange. And then the brother bedroom was not as close as I imagined it was. The basement gives me torture chamber vibes. I could barely watch that part in the video. I can’t imagine in real life. I hope they tear it down one day.
When I saw that JonBenet had a door to a outside balcony, it made me wonder if someone could have entered through that door, but didn’t they say the alarm was set or something? I’m so confused. It has to have been someone who knew that home. Didn’t the stairs creak? Why would they just hurt JonBenet and no one else? The window that people think the intruder came in that had that gate/grill at the top. Wouldn’t you think a affluent family who seemed to protect their home have that gate/grill locked somehow? I find it all to weird that her murder took place the night before the family was to leave for the East Coast. There was talk about JonBenet’s bed wetting, but nothing more it seems. After all these years I’m still confused as to why someone would kill her? The whole DNA from a man on her underwear throws me off, or else I would say it was someone in her family. Another thing, why would someone leave a ransom note demanding money, and that they had JonBenet in their possession, but she was dead in the basement? When the ransom note was found, why wasn’t the whole house checked, inside and outside? It appears the police even missed the wine cellar, but it took John taking someone with him, and went right to the wine cellar...but the police missed that room. It doesn’t make any sense to me. There is a part of a video in one of JonBenet’s pageants where she has a bruise on the inside of her arm near her elbow. I saw that and wondered if she was abused. I’ve heard about some pageant parents and how strict they are with their children, and it’s more for them than the child who just wants to be a child, and I wonder if any abuse or strictness led to JonBenet’s bed wetting and Patsy Ramsey lost it?
I read somewhere on Reddit that this lady was a pageant mom and her daughter did pageants with Jonbenet, she said she witnessed Patsy hit (maybe just a pop) Jonbenet because she wouldn’t cooperate, idk if it’s 100% true or not and I saw on the picture she had when she had lipstick and her hair was flowing in back she had a bruise on her eyebrow
I don't think a parent invested in their child's looks would mark them in areas on show. Kids get cuts and bruises playing and generally being clumsy. That doesn't mean she wasn't abused in any way.
@@lornocford6482 A nanny or whatever she was worked in the home, and said everytime Jonbenet wet the bed she would take her in the bathroom and ig whoop her because she remember hearing Jonbenet screaming everytime it happened
Wow! I didn’t know that house was that big!! Definitely someone could have been in thier for hours without anyone knowing or hearing them. Very possible the killer was in that house when the Ramseys left for the party at the neighbors, had the time to write the note while they were away, it specified a kidnapping and that was the plan but something went wrong. The note was not written after the fact. I do not believe the Ramseys were involved in their daughters murder.
Didn't know about balcony he could have got in that way and out through basement, I think intruder wrote the letter to look like she left the house to give him time to get far away after
So many shocked at the bedroom assignments. Would you expect John and Patsy to not use the master on the 3rd floor? Yes, it was a huge house, and JonBenet had the second best room in the house, and it most likely had nothing to do with what happened there.
Jonbenets room looks like the master bedroom. Huge and open with a balcony/terrace. On the opposite end of the house. Very creepy. Easy Access for any predator.
Looks like Jonbenet got the best room in the house all to herself (looks like a party/ballroom it's so large.) Seems suspicious AF. Is there a staircase to the terrace? Cuz that looks more than a balcony to me
John controlled the security system alarm that night. He only had it turned on while he was murdering Jonbenet and turned it off after Patsy wrote the ransome note and they decided to make the 911 call.
I couldn't live there if they gave me the house for free and I'm poor and live in an apartment. Strangely Televangelist Robert Schuller of the Crystal Cathedral's daughter, Carol Milner and her husband Tim bought the John Ramsey house of all people. They say "it's a wonderful place to live now": New owner of the JonBenet Ramsey murder house opens up about making a home at the site of one of America's most notorious cold cases. Tim and Carol Milner and their five children moved into the home once owned by the Ramsey family in 2004 Mrs Milner, the daughter of the late televangelist Robert Schuller, says the house feels like home now, despite it's dark history that appears to contradict real estate records that show the Milner family have tried to sell the home on at least four different occasions.
That's a really weird house. It's only like 50 feet wide but 500 feet long. The bedrooms are enormous but the living room is very tiny. I would not buy that house even if I could afford it. Lot better houses in similar price range or even cheaper.
I agree! My home is 4000 square feet but it's wide open. I'm guessing it's an older home with the way it was so chopped up. Who would want climb three flights of stairs to go to bed at night? Not me
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the size of this house surely shows that the murderer knew it well! I would get lost!
"Don" "Jane" Anne"...go out and play
If Burke did it , then who's DNA is found in the blood of John Benets underwear? It was that of an unidentified male. It had to be someone who knew the family and their way around the house. Especially her bedroom!
To me it also shows how she couldve been abducted to th3 basement qnd not been heard
This sounds a little crazy but I believe that it was someone from their Christmas party. They could have stayed in the house while the party was happening and explore or possibly knew the house before. Could’ve murdered her at night. That explains why there was no sign of a break in
Adrianna Soph I was thinking that same thing. They could have easily walked/snuck away from everyone and hid until All was clear (of everyone afterwards) and they knew the home very well. My thing also is, if patsy woke up the next morning and basically went right by Jon Bennett’s room (and if the door was open), wouldn’t she notice and go check on her? You would think so. I know if I get up in the morning, the first thing I would do is go into my child’s bedroom to wake them or check on them. I mean the stairs where the ransom note was was right there. I think patsy had a hand in it somehow.
I never realized how big it is
Pearl the rebel me either it’s easy to see how someone wouldn’t hear anyone get in the house the rooms
Are spaced far apart and the murder took place three stories down
Same
That's what she said
@@staceyleenagavard7051 so some stranger just knew all the rooms? How could they know that the next room the entered wouldnt be the parents room? That's a huge risk. They had to know exactly where Jonbenet's room was out of that whole house. Without waking anyone. Then they collected all the writing materials needed, tpok the time to write a draft ransom note, then write out the final ransom note, found the paint brush, made a toggle rope, had Jonbenet eat pineapple?? Then killed here without disturbing anyone. Yall really think that's possible? Yeah fucking right. I know my house inside and out but I'll still make noise in the dark. I dont believe for one sec an intruder was in that house and made so few mistakes that not a shred of proof of their existence was left behind
11,000 sq ft. In this video she says 7K square feet but I think that was before the renovations the Ramseys made. 2.5 M $ house today and they bought it for 500K in 91. Crazy
Although I love the house, for a paranoid person like me it would be a nightmare with 9 doors and 100 windows 😬
Just think of the painting!
You should probably live in the entry foyer of the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland, where there are no windows and no doors.
I hate everything about this house! Evil radiates from every corner.
The house that big to me is not a home! I would b too scared in such a big house! You would be constantly making sure Windows and doors r locked! Or make sure the alarm is on at all times!
I owned a home that had 26 windows and 9 doors and I was always on high alert.
Nice house so big but why was her room so far being a mother you should always keep ur child close no matter what !!!
Her room was close. It was moved. I gave a more comprehensive answer to that above.
People shouldn’t have to worry about these things
Because her room was so hidden in the corner, so someone who knows this house had something to do with it or even outsiders who studied the structure of the house
Parents were banging
If she was a mother.! But she was monster!
Man. When I was Jonbenet's age I remember being scared at night, because my parents slept upstairs and I slept downstairs. I can only imagine what it was like for her in that massive house. Poor kiddo.
I lived in a house that has a long hallway and my moms room was at one end and my room was in the other and I would be scared shit every night.
انا الأن عمري ١٨ سنه ولاكن ما زلت انام بجوار أخوتي . وغرفة امي قريبة جدا مني
Like if I was a parent regardless how rich I would never have my kids that far away especially my daughter...
@@bretth4988 me either. I think that is scary.
@@bretth4988Exactly! Apparently it takes a loving and caring parent to realize this. Creepy ass parents! The little girl had a problem wetting her bed too. Gee I wonder why. Poor little girl! My kids would NEVER have been able to sleep like that!!! I'm sure she voiced that she was scared and then she was told to suck it up. Child abuse. Unfortunately there are people who have kids and still act kid free because they don't want the kid to interrupt their lives.
God that basement is haunting...
If I bought the house I couldn't bare to go down there knowing that sweet girl died there
Looney Tunes if I where to buy that house 🏠 I would turn the whole house 🏠 into my own house 🏠
I couldn't live there if they gave me the house for free and I'm poor and live in an apartment. Strangely Televangelist Robert Schuller of the Crystal Cathedral's daughter, Carol Milner and her husband Tim bought the John Ramsey house of all people. They say "it's a wonderful place to live now": New owner of the JonBenet Ramsey murder house opens up about making a home at the site of one of America's most notorious cold cases. Tim and Carol Milner and their five children moved into the home once owned by the Ramsey family in 2004 Mrs Milner, the daughter of the late televangelist Robert Schuller, says the house feels like home now, despite it's dark history that appears to contradict real estate records that show the Milner family have tried to sell the home on at least four different occasions.
@@eden3679 The new owners took down ALL the basement walls so now it's just one giant beautiful room with stone walls. I'd still be creeped out though.
@@eden3679 she was placed there in the basement..the investigation wasn't botched. It was planned the way it happened. Ask the 1st female detective(who was new on her job) as a deterrent. She has a video on line she basically said the dad was guilty & she knew it when she talked to him. Only God saw what happened to this beautiful child. & the dad..
Creepy as hell, and notice how her room is far away from everybody else’s, easy to abuse her without alerting anyone quickly. It’s one of the only cases that gives me dark vibes, something wicked and cruel went down that night and the little girl fought back.
*_Oh wow!! Never thought of that.. But right?! The parents for sure did something to her.._* 😔
@@AnnaLexi they didnt it was the cops
@@Ana20arA what...??
@@vicksta8875 what do u not understand i was pretty clear.
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Why do some parents sleep so far away from their kids if i had home that big they’d be in the room right next door
they also weren't in the habit of securing their home. Not when they were away and not while sleeping. Careless.
My mom died when I was 2 years old I'm 46 years old and I wish I would have been able to sleep with my mom I miss her so much..❤😓
@@ldcharper8536 I miss my mom & I'm in my late 50's. I think the missing never goes away..she passed from misdiagnosed colon cancer. It should not have happened. Life is just not right anymore..her spirit is here, that I know..I talk to her in prayer a lot. Bless you, I understand where ur coming from, grief sucks. My mom lost her mom @ age 10 so that was a grandmother I never knew. How anyone could process losing a child I'll never know..I would probably pass out & end up in a coma. Who parades thier daughter on a stage in beauty pageants (that she didn't want to be in) wearing a 30 yr olds make up? Putting deep red lipstick on a 5-6 yr old, attracts pedos.
It wasn’t that far away really. The staircase to JB’s room is at the end of their bedroom with Burke just underneath
@@redlikewineagain697 Many people who live in nice areas don't secure their home, especially when they're already inside it...and especially 25 years ago. Lol
Its a nice house but its really creepy
The inside looks atmospherically creepy
Pretty good vibe.
Any house from the 90s looks creepy to me
@Debra Sugden what is about it?
Hellokittie96 exactly! LOL!
I read the house was built in 1929
Just seeing the house and having them explain how the murderer would have walked done the stairs and everything really gives me the chills...idk even tho it was so long ago, idk hoe anyone could live in that house again.
It was purchased by the daughter of the famous television evangelist Robert Shuler. She said she mad it very cheerful and bright.
@@dawnschubert8305 ri
gloria 907 I would ! Its just a house ! If I had the money,I'd buy it and move right in !
Lol that house is nice af, for the price I would buy it and renovate the inside
Patsy said she would never stay there again, and they didn't ..they never stayed there just got their shit out and headed for atl and Michigan
ill never understand why the kid's rooms were on a lower floor than the killers. shit .. I mean parents😔 my son would be sleeping above me just for the simple fact that if somebody was to break in, they would literally have to go through me.
I am convinced her brother initially killed her on accident and the parents tried to cover it up.
Exactly!!!!!!
you want them below you so when the thives break in they start screaming giving me time to make my escape
Nikki Fortner in case of fire,the kids could escape the flames.Parents buy homes now and put kids on the First floor.
spooky katt first of all patsy wrote the note and secondly the dna is not a single profile from one individual and its only a very small amount anyways.
I never realized how huge their house was. It was a beautiful home no doubt about that.
Yes it was a huge house
It was hideous
She had a really nice room !! Like her own bathroom and a balcony 😱!!
Yeah
She lived like a princess. Poor girl.
That balcony would scare me if I had a young child sleeping there.
Thats the bedroom I've always wanted she definitely lived like a princess... It's absolutely sad what happened to her. 😢
Yes. That shocked me too. A bathroom for a six year old? We had one bathroom in my household. But we were working class. Couldn't afford a mansion like this.
I can't imagine sleeping that far away from my 6 year old child. Growing up I felt so secure knowing that my parents bedroom was right next to mine.
Not a good idea to have an open balcony near her bedroom. Dangerous. Too open to the public and she was known..
Dangerous idea to have a balcony off her room but its okay to parade the girl in adult outfits with a ton of makeup on?okay.
@@donnadreyer2580 That is dangerous too!
Who tf said this shii was okay@@donnadreyer2580
The front of that house sure is deceiving to the actual size of it, it is huge!!! I could never sleep on a different floor to my children. Maybe once they were teenagers, but never small children.
You better second guess that one bc teens are well known for shenanigans
A stranger would NOT know the intricate layout of that house. 🤔🤔
Thats why some people think it was someone that knows the family and the layout of their house. They had parties there all the time. Like their annual Christmas party on December 23rd 3 days before Jonbenets body was found
Not to mention the killer had hours to walk around the house before the Ramseys came home. It has even been said that because that house is so big and there are so many rooms someone could have been hiding in there for days and no one would ever know.
@@brittany6721Exactly!
@@AndyFelbabI always thought the Santa that was at the party looked like a creep and that the man that was a transient that lived in the basement of the neighbors house across the street were good suspects. Authorities said though that the Santa was too elderly and in too bad of shape because of recent heart surgery to commit such a strenuous act. But both men were at the party on the 23rd I have read.
@@janicescott6569 Yeah I remember they cleared the Santa guy
That concrete room were they found her is the scariest room I have ever seen in my entire life... f***!!
It hurts my heart to think about how scared she must have been down there. My basement growing up had a finished side and an unfinished side. My dad used the unfinished side as a work space for his woodworking projects. It has concrete walls on 3 sides and it creeped me out until I was, probably 12 yrs old.
Her bedroom so far away from her parents
Sarah Brennan
And????
Sarah Brennan ik i think it shouldve been closer to the parents
Ajulu A. I agree
Just a floor below
It wasn’t
How would the person who left the note have known someone would come down those stairs to find the note?🤔
Exactly! There were at least 6 hand writing experts that said Patsy wrote the note. Everything points to Burke hitting her on the head in a fit of anger, and the parents thinking she was dead, staged the strangling to protect Burke. The parents actually killed her.
K Bri Good question
It's a house people walk around there house and believe it or not they walk down the stairs to I know its crazy🙄 u could see a washer and dryer in the basement meaning obviously they will go down there...what did u expect em to do leave it on the kitchen table? Not to mention the dead fucking body downstairs thst was gonna be found as well and the fact the daughter was gone any normal parent would search the whole house looking for the kid god damn.....but good point detective 😂😂
shouldn't they find finger prints on the paper and the floor to see who wrote it and killed her.
The killer was very familiar with the ramseys and their home.especially with john..the note indicates that...no brainer...
It would be weird to me to have my 6 yr old so far away from me at night
Yeah it would be weird
Rich people behave differently, somewhat indifferent to their kids!
Not everyone is that clingy and needy. My nephew is 8 now but he liked his own company. Plenty of other people have weird houses that mean the kids aren’t close. Doesn’t mean anything
Whoever killed the child knew that house from top to bottom.
Yes... the dad..
@@Speakupok Why say the dad? The mother is the more likely of the two (assuming just one of them did it)
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The first cop that arrived at the scene stated that the dad gave her the most evil look and she said she knew that he was the one who did it..
@@Speakupok Sorry but that's not reliable evidence lol
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But women have instincts
I have always had an eerie feeling about that house.. It is one creepy, huge house, PERFECT for someone to hide..3 floors and a basement. Someone could be in the house and you wouldn't know it.
Do you not live in America the rich have HUGE mansions like this especially in Southern California
@@feartheghostinme675 did the Ramseys have an alarm?
@@martafiord They did but it was off. How would a intruder know that
@@fitzgeraldsemelfort3938 oh right, now I remember, thanks. How convenient, right?
That house that jonbenet used to leave looks creepy to live there
I agree. I get the feeling of not being safe in that house. They also didn't secure the house when they left and probably while they slept. Very dumb and careless.
Why was Jonbenet's room so far away from Pasty's room and Burke's Room??
@@fluffy-Muffin the parents said them selves bro would fall asleep in there or vice versa.
I’m thinking the master suite took up the whole top story.
Imagine how scared she was every night being so far away from anyone else’s bedroom and all alone . With a door that goes outside . I would have been terrified as a kid
The wine cellar was a very secluded place and Jonbenet had her head forcefully cracked open in that house for a reason. (The 'killer' wanted to make sure she was dead because her body was not COLD yet!) That little six year old had been sexually violated for quite some time and she was getting big enough to tell on her perpetrator. John Ramsey also had political ambitions and the Ramsey family had to maintain their image in the community and this family had a dark secret. This is why John is always smiling and cordial in public even when he is talking about his little daughters brutal murder. It's all about maintaining that image. And this brutal murder was no accident! It never was a ransome either! These people were wealthy, the entrepreneur father was smart, and they had two young children. The mansion had an alarm system and the doors were left unlocked on Christmas day with presents under the tree and two young children sleeping on a lower floor. GO FIGURE!
@Joy Ss one of the coroners said Jonbenets vagina looked like a 30 something year old vagina. Figure it out
Seeing the video of Ghislaine Maxwell behind Jon Benet pretty much proves your theory imo.
This case just smells so bad. A, it's warped to have your kids where you can't hear them. Second, something's wrong, you *bypass* your kid's rooms to conveniently find the fake, very contrived "Gone with the Wind" of ransom letters...which just happens to be on the stairs the family always uses? Kidnappers don't write nonsensically, dumbed down long letters. Pasty sounds like she's badly acting at every turn. Talk to any mother who loses her child. You can see it right there all the time. No matter if it were today or 30 years ago. This one looks like she had an easy life.
118k ransom to the penny, huh? Yeah. Bull. Dad's bonus. Hm. Unlikely anyone but mom would know about that one. Ransom note off HER notepad? Yeah. HER Sharpie? Kidnappers aren't going to do that. No one in history has EVER done that. Give us money, period. And 118k is like nothing to them, so again, bull. Rope OVER sleeves? Again, weird. You hire not only defense lawyers, but a PR team? Bull. If the kid killed her, nothing much would happen, anyway. They would have known that. Police were a joke, I'm sorry. They allow a body to be moved TWICE, one that they MISSED for 6 HOURS?? Come on. Not possible to be that incompetent. They let people stomp all over the crime scene? Brilliant. And wtf calls all their friends over like it's a barbeque? Who uses a garotte to kill a small child? Any grown person could do it without one. And fake kidnappers don't get paid if she's dead, do they?
yup., patsy chemo brain !!
This needs way more likes
And look at how strange this house layout is! A stranger would get lost in there. This whole things will continue to smell fishy until someone starts telling us the truth. The whole world is not stupid. All the things they want to blame on another person can be said for a cover up as well. That's the worst part. The ransom note. No one is going to sit and write a book about wanting money from you. Patsy's handwriting matches to a T literally. If there was an intruder he gets an award for the dumbest intruder on earth.
Not to mention how the police handled this from start to end. It was HORRIFYING!!
It seemed this poor sweet innocent angel was doomed to ever getting justice. I think about her often. So sorry to her.
I would also like to say that we all could be wrong. It could have been a very stupid intruder. And if that's the case I apologize to the Ramsey family for ever thinking they could do this to their little girl. I want so badly to believe they are innocent. Always have and always will.
But until I am given mind blowing , concrete new evidence (touch dna doesn't count) I remain firm on my last stance.
And the Santa man had one of his kids kidnapped 20 years before..thats where they got the idea for that...i think think she was nervous writing the note or on top of spinning washer to look bad. Who would not check the WHOLE house when house had been broke in???? He just sat there and after hours had to be told to! And pasty?? Neither one checked??? Either they did it or someone they know .
How on earth this mystery can be solved.the sequence of the 911 call by Patsy clearly shows she wanted an ambulance even many hours before they found JBR dead body. Why she mentioned " what did you do"? None of them went im search of JBN inside or outside the house.no friends of them mentioned about it.The torch, the paint brush , and all the elements used were belonging to the family.No outside stuff found in the crime scene. Pineapple piece found inside her bowels .Patseys fingerprints were found on the bowl and not Jonnbents. The kidnapper never called any time? Why would Ramseys call friends even when the kidnapper had mentioned in the so called note that not to talk to anyone.it is staged for sure. How on earth parents did not show up for so many immediate interrogations that would have helped them to solve the case.Three months to appear for an interrogation or beyond that.
There never intended to be a ransom with the girl found in the furthest room in the basement of that gaudy place. Someone in that house knows exactly what happened that night.
And their name was Patsy and maybe Jon.
Yes! Odd a ransom was demanded and the same amount as John’s bonus, a 2.5 page note written but she wasn’t taken from the house and no call was made at 10am per the note.
Exactly!!!! How did they not hear a single thing? They had too! They were dragging the poor girl down the stairs. And the person who did this to the poor girl knew exactly where everything in the house was. How would they know to put her in a concrete cement enclosed closet? I think her mom did it. I have this gut feeling. I’m sure her mom was jealous of her daughter because she had everything. And I’m sure she was pushed by her mom to do pageants and to act a certain way. I think this has been going on so long that the mom has rehearsed every detail in her mind. I definitely don’t think it was the brother. There is absolutely no way because he would not have been able to drag her body down the stairs.
You’re gonna try to tell me a random intruder knew how to get around that house, kidnapped, murdered, AND stayed around to write a 2 1/2 page ransom note....
Yeah inside job.
Yeah they could. A big house, with not many people in it (tired mom and dad in one room) and Jon Bennets little brother in another. Its very possible to navigate without being detected in a mansion like that
Plus leave the victim there? Before getting any ransom money? Makes no sense.
Exactly
@@ashokathegreat4534 And very easy to hide in for a long time without being detected.
If anyone did any research on this case at all, they would know her wrists were not bound with duct tape, and she did have a cord tied around her neck, and around her wrists. There was some duct tape on her mouth.
To have your six year old daughter’s room next to a balcony… and far away from your own room…. Im surprised the intruder didn’t escape from the balcony with JonBenét
Good point
What intruder???
There is NO way a random person could find their way around that house in the dark to a little girl's room and then know their way again to a basement room to put the body. I mean all of the weird twists and turns in that house is unreal. It absolutely was either someone who lived in the house or knew the house very, very, very well. Don't get me started on the botched investigation.
He was in the house already he must have been, when they were out for dinner he had splenty of time to look around, write his letter
Please do.👍
@@kimmcpadden5371yes.They had lots of time plus had broken in there before.
patsy would have open house at Christmas time and parties for the neighbor’s but I doubt the whole gigantic house was toured.
I would never ever buy a house with that layout as a mom myself.
I think that the police should have done mandatory DNA swab of all close male friends of the family who knew where Jon Benets room was and the layout of the house. They would have probably found the killer!
Any DNA found on her body would be considered invalid evidence, because the parents invited their friends to the house to help find her. It would be possible that their DNA was transferred during the search, rather than during the murder. This is why it was such a huge mistake of the police to not block off the crime scene immediately.
Exactly! They should've tested Everyone at that Christmas party children included to distinguish their DNA. I'm sure the cops didn't do that. The Ramsey's put JonBenet to bed with No Bath that night after the party & only later changed her pjs so the DNA could easily have come from the party goers. And Uncle John better have been tested as well since it was his suitcase under the window with the semen blanket & Dr Seuss book & he was in town.
After the police and the district attorney at the time, screwed up, the State investigators came in, they took "DNA of every known person to have any contact " with JonBenet, including all the family members, because there was sperm found in her underwear, on a Garrote that was used to kill her, and cord used to tie her up, "the DNA did not match any know person"
Emerald "idoit" Isabella, So the DNA found in her underwear, is " invalid evidence", You, like most of the idiots that post on here can't deal with FACTS !
@@natashacutiepie6074 Uncle John ? Who ?
I guess sometimes less is more. I wouldn’t want my kids spread that far from me and their mother. And definitely wouldn’t want her with a private balcony at that age.
I agree. Lot’s of people build two story homes today with master suite down stairs and other bedrooms upstairs which is crazy. I was always afraid of fire or a break in. But I think the huge master suite in the Ramsey home was the only bedroom on top floor. In that case you would need “baby” monitor’s all over the second floor.
Common sense people, you do not give a 6 year old a balcony,
It's been almost 24 years since this happened and it's still shocking to me. Today I went and visited her grave. This baby would've been about to celebrate her 30th birthday next month and maybe even enjoying her children if she decided to have some. I really hope they find out who took her precious life. And I hope if or when they do, them monster is still alive to face justice.
Stop doing that. Very weird.
@@notlookinforahug how about leave people to their sadness.
@@cjb8010 nah... it’s weird
@@stephanierose4970 how about leave people to their sadness.
@@cjb8010 how about you leave the dead alone? It’s creepy and weird, y’all didn’t know her
"A christmas tree was here",... a christmas tree was in EVERY ROOM IN THE HOUSE that is how pat decorated it haha
I love my teeny house, with my young girls just on the other side of my bedroom wall. I'm not an overprotective mom at all, but they belong close yo you at that age. How the hell do you comfort your kid when they're having a nightmare, or check up at them real quick when you wake up every now and then when they are so far away...? Not saying it's the reason this happened or that it could not happen when it would be the room next to the parents, but having my young child so far away from me (or at least a responsible family member) at night would not feel natural or save at all to me.
DeHeldin yeah. Growing up we had plenty of space but me and my big sister shared a room until I was 10. I preferred it that way.
spooky katt
Virtue signaling? Envious? Someone in that house was sexually abusing her for months, murdered her and then they all lied about it together. Not a life any of us would want to have.
I’m sure the parents had lots of regret’s about it.
I’d be concerned about a calamity like a fire. Imagine needing to escape a burning home and your children are far away in another part of the house.
Okay but this house automatically gave me strange vibes
why would Jonbenet's room be so far from the parents
Ajulu A. That’s what I just said... the house so big there could of been somebody else living there and they wouldn’t of known
Ajulu- Umm..cuz it was a huge house? Besides, she was 6 years old, not 6 months.
Ajulu A. Prolly because they didnt like jon benet and they just wanted to keep her for the 💰
When I was little, my room was on the first floor, and my mom, dad, and sister slept on the second. I was terrified to sleep by myself, I can't imagine how Jonbenet felt so far from her family in that gigantic house.
@@pyroshayniac1090 😥 Yeah, your parents should have been downstairs and you and your sister upstairs.
Could you imagine locking that many doors every night? I'd have to live in a gated community with security on my property to feel safe in such a big house. But this is 25 years later and society has lost its mind.
Yes, but even twenty four years ago a psychopath broke into their home. Much worse today though.
I doubt all if the doors were used on a regular basis so no need to lock and unlock them every day.
I drove by it a couple of years ago and there is a lot of trees and bushes blocking the house's view from the street. I was also surprised at how close the house was from the street after seeing so many pics and video of the place. It's difficult to tell how large the place is when you view it from the street. Everything on video looks bigger than it is.
This house was built for evil activities. Notice in a couple of photos the black & white checkered floor. That is freemasonic, freemasons are evil. John no doubt was a freemason, as well as many of his associates.
The house also gives off the "business in front, party in the back" evil vibe. I'd say lots of bad things happened there that we don't know about.
Wow what a stunning house.
Tragic.
Its layout also seems like one that even the people living there would need time to get used to.
Curious Cat, it really seems cookie cutter and a lot of unnecessary walls.
It's strange that I've never read or heard the balcony off JB's bedroom mentioned or discussed. Was that door locked?
Yes! And a huge build on in back with added story. It was a showplace on the tour we just watched but crazy all the rooms in basement, like a maze! Too many ways for people to get in and hide. This was probably a hundred or more year old house.
Rest in Peace JonBenet and Patsy. 23yrs later and it's only yesterday. Have a Merry Christmas in Heaven.
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Yikes didn't realize the house was so big throws a wrench in my previous understanding of what happened. A child could easily scream and not be heard.
Especially block foundation dug beneath ground an not fan forced heat with venting,just boiler pipe pushing heated water so each level was sealed up well.
Like four gymnasiums stacked with block dividers,like a factory..
I picked up your wrench. Be careful where you throw it.
You would think that if an intruder went to all the trouble to write that sprawling 3 page ransom note, then they would have thought enough to have planned to exit the house from one of those 9 exterior doors or 100 windows, especially since the girl had a balcony attached to her bedroom. There would be no reason for an intruder to take her to the basement and kill her, then still not taking to body to possibly still collect the ransom. Why would an intruder just give up at the point where they were ready to collect the money. I feel on my gut that John did this with Patsy covering for him.
Exactly!
What would be John's motive?
@@marlabankiecovering up his m0lestation
John was molesting Jonbenet. She fought back or threatened to tell, and he lost it and hit her. Then they had to cover it up by staging it as an intruder/murder scene.
You don't know the case. That's a stupid theory. Think about this. The Ramsey's had a private plane. If they killed her they could have just left. Why would they call police on THEMSELVES? NO ONE WOULD HAVE EVER KNOWN SHE WAS GONE. All they had to do was fly away and go stay at their other home. They could have left the country for that matter.
A variety of locks on doors and windows....well not apparently the one in the basement. Odd isn’t it you’d have a home this big and after purposely breaking a window, you never get it fixed. With money like his and small children like he had, you would be more aware. I’m still on the fence but that is really odd behaviour for a grown successful man with a family to protect.
And glass laying around with kids in house! He said he broke window one interview couples months back ...another one he says a year! Not only that he said he stripped down ...didnt want to dirty his clothes ...and climbed in!!! How without getting shards of glass in his butt!
@@valerielock2374 exactly! Just odd🤔
I would never want to have my bedroom on a different floor from those of my children. And to have a child’s room looking out on a balcony with all those glass windows? Yikes!
I think the dad was doing stuff to the daughter and that’s why the daughters room is really far away. To keep from anyone hearing. Maybe one night he got mad and that was it.
So the room JBR was found in was covered by plywood. How on earth did someone find this room? How on earth did they know? This house is huge....you would have to have a good sense of the layout to be undetected. Strange.
Clearly the person that killed her knew the floor plan of the house and the fact that she was nowhere near her parents room and he probably wouldn’t be caught
I hope JonBenét haunts the crap out of that house. What a shame. It's quite beautiful, if you're not aware of the hideous history.
Dang! It's not the house's fault!! Haunt the crap out of the killer, not the house.
No, I hope that poor girl is in heaven
@@KingofPepsi True
Reminds me of a study years ago about the benefits of a small house for raising children. I remember it because we were shoe horned into the smallest house allowed in our city at the time 🇨🇦
Judging by the size of the house and where the occupants' rooms were located, suggests that the killer had been in the Ramseys house before. Meaning he/she knew where JonBenet would be. Could be a relative, or a neighbor, or a family friend. The killer was intent on Jonbenet. This was personal for him/her in some way...
I didn't know the house was that big they said there was no sign of forced entry but in a house this size with 4 people a intruder could've easily just hid in there
That is wrong, The basement window was open and there was a scuff mark on the wall above the window, as if someone climbed out the window (Crime scene video, basement window starts at 6:07) ruclips.net/video/KPAm0RQo5TQ/видео.html
Even Patsey said that an intruder could have been in the home for a month and could hide easily without being heard.
@ didn’t John say he was the one who did that ?
No wonder they heard nothing, never realise parents bedroom so far away, intruder must have went in when they were out and check out whole house, he had long time to write letter
Why would you put ur kids underneath ur bedroom and away from the parents. 🤬
I guess they felt safe in their house like most of us do and didn't not expect such evil to enter, this is such a sad crime
Hate big houses. You never know if a stranger is in them. Hate basements. The fact a stranger can walk around that huge house in the dark knowing where to go, from bedroom all the way to basement down staircases, hallways etc carrying a child without a sound is baffling.
That never happened. Lies and cover up.
So much money,such a big house with lots of doors and no securities cameras or alarm system.
If you read Steve Thomas's book about the case he brings up some interesting evidence. Like why was Patsy wearing the same clothes the next morning that she wore at the Xmas party the previous night? She never went to bed that night and she didn't think to change her clothes since she was busy doing something all night. Also, neighbors said they saw lights on inside the house all night that usually were never left on. And if an intruder really broke in then why create the evidence of the ransom note and leave it neatly on the stairs when it was useless since the body was left in the basement? It is obvious the ransom note was a diversion. Say for example there was no ransom note, then it's much harder to explain away the murder was by an intruder. And the basement window wasn't an access point because it was full of cobwebs that would have been disturbed by a person going through it.
Not even from his book will you know this info..I'm 38 so I know all of that and more. I was 12 when this happened and it's a crazy family coverup imo.
Firstly, everyone stays up most of the night getting presents wrapped and put under the tree.
Patsy would have been up even longer and stayed dressed because she went all out on Christmas.
The cobweb on the window isn't a fact and cobwebs can be spun in a few hours.
And JB was alive on the 25th and they saw her alive and put her to bed and all..why they have engraved the 25th as the day of her death? They've found her on the 26th. They must have known she was dead on the 25th, before midnight...
Just by the sheer size of the house,you can easily see how someone could hide inside. Especially with those maze like corridors and clumbed up rooms on the second floor, i mean.....jonbenets room door was like 30 meters away from the parents bed,thats way too much to hear anything.even her brothers room is on the opposite side of the house on her floor(2nd floor). Too many doors for entry and family was way to far apart in my opinion.
So, when did this intruder write the note?
@@jilltheprivateinvestigator3328 guy had plenty of time to write the note and to learn the layout of the house while the ramseys where at white's house xmas dinner (atleast 3-4 hours time window).
Some monster was looking at that girl at all those pageants she competed. RIP Jonbenet,hopefully we find out who did this but i doubt it will ever be solved.
@@fr1x If it was written during the wait, why leave it when she had been murdered? Why leave it to begin with, or why wasn't she kidnapped?
@@jilltheprivateinvestigator3328 i think the original plan was to kidnap the girl,but something mustve happened,maybe she was making too much noise so he bashed her head in? He got lucky tho because the skull fracture didnt bleed outside so we cant really know where he did this.the ransom note kinda looks like Patsy wrote it but the majority of experts disagreed and she passed the test.lots of movies references in the note(the movie ransom by mel gibson was out that year and ramseys barely watched tv as they led very busy lives).the exact bonus for john ramsey of 118000$ which is how much the intruder wrote could be explained too. The check was located in the first hall past the front door on a shelf.its possible the intruder saw it while he was sniffing around the house(or somebody did it who knew johns bonus that year). The sum requested is too low anyway,he could've asked for more but like i said.....kidnapping and ransom wasnt his main plan.Just to divert.....but jonbenet fought back and here we are...... Imho. Boulder Police made a number of mistakes the next day and thats why i doubt this case will ever be solved.
Why a big house for a small family? Scared to see
Of all the rooms in that house, what are the chances that the very first room John Ramsey looked in was where he found his murdered daughter?
Also, the parents' bedroom was the remodeled attic - which is why it's so enormous
"At that moment, the Police should have done its Job!!!" It's so obvious that the Ramseys knew what happened to JonBenét... Too much *red flags* in this case!
The parents were involved. Btw, nobody writes a "ransom note" in the same house they kidnapped someone from with THEIR OWN NOTEBOOK STATIONARY. ALSO, no "small foriegn faction" would call themselves that. Folks overthink this.
And the pen and notebook were put away, separately. Also, I think there was a practice note(s) in the trash. Patsy's paintbrush was used for the garrote. Patsy's handwriting could not be ruled out. And the note was "caring" towards John, really weird.
it was a small house when first built . over the years different owners added on different floors and rooms .
Chris Crichton, honestly it should have been finished in brick not stucco.
Wow such great insite to the case. Tf???💀💀
I’m thinking there was some sort of child selling going on. Possibly more with the father, maybe something went wrong and he killed her or she was killed by accident because of the arrangement. Kinda seemed like they were going to just hide her in that concrete room in hopes nobody would find her. Maybe his conscience got the better of them.
No wonder they didn’t hear anything. Home is massive
I would not want to be the current owner of that house just something about that house is just very eerie look and feel if you know what I mean
I’m unsure about right now but there were rooms rented out to college kids was last I heard.
The house should've been demolished and rebuilt
Patsy told John to torch it, but they ended up selling years later (they did not stay in the home during those years) and the new owner completely remodeled it. If you google the address (which was changed from 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO to 749 15th Street) you can see all the pictures of the remodel on Realtor.com, etc. The basement is pretty gorgeous now, even though I would NEVER be able to be anywhere near that basement (or inside the house for that matter).
So the killer goes down the normal stairs but Patsy took the spiral where note was left? I'm confused.
I would never live in a house where a tragedy took place. No matter how nice.
That house was huge ! They knew the house 🏠.
Makes things a little clearer on how they did not hear anything
Man these people had it all until all this tragic stuff happened... Goes to show can happen to anyone at any moment . Very sad
Who the hell puts their kids on the floor below where they sleep and then leaves the doors unlocked.
The doors were not unlocked.
Interesting where she was found in the basement, as from I understand, the Dad basically opened the door and said he found her as he clicked on the light. I thought she was at the foot of the stairs or in the corner of that room. (2:00 for reference where the door or cabinets are on the left is where i assumed he found her, not the end of the hallway in another room) That man must've had bounceable vision to be able to see around corners.
The back staircase lol I thought only tv show sitcoms had to different flights of stairs to the same floors
I’d be scared to leave my 6 year kid in a room that far away with a balcony. That’s just really strange. And then the brother bedroom was not as close as I imagined it was. The basement gives me torture chamber vibes. I could barely watch that part in the video. I can’t imagine in real life. I hope they tear it down one day.
That house would really bring back a memory of a tragedy
That is horrible what happened to that pour family. That beautiful little girl. Hopefully the killer is found.
Killer is deceased. It was her mom.
Just finished reading Steve Thomas's book. This helped me understand much of what I read.
The name of the book please ???
How? Give examples
When I saw that JonBenet had a door to a outside balcony, it made me wonder if someone could have entered through that door, but didn’t they say the alarm was set or something? I’m so confused. It has to have been someone who knew that home. Didn’t the stairs creak? Why would they just hurt JonBenet and no one else? The window that people think the intruder came in that had that gate/grill at the top. Wouldn’t you think a affluent family who seemed to protect their home have that gate/grill locked somehow? I find it all to weird that her murder took place the night before the family was to leave for the East Coast. There was talk about JonBenet’s bed wetting, but nothing more it seems. After all these years I’m still confused as to why someone would kill her? The whole DNA from a man on her underwear throws me off, or else I would say it was someone in her family. Another thing, why would someone leave a ransom note demanding money, and that they had JonBenet in their possession, but she was dead in the basement? When the ransom note was found, why wasn’t the whole house checked, inside and outside? It appears the police even missed the wine cellar, but it took John taking someone with him, and went right to the wine cellar...but the police missed that room. It doesn’t make any sense to me. There is a part of a video in one of JonBenet’s pageants where she has a bruise on the inside of her arm near her elbow. I saw that and wondered if she was abused. I’ve heard about some pageant parents and how strict they are with their children, and it’s more for them than the child who just wants to be a child, and I wonder if any abuse or strictness led to JonBenet’s bed wetting and Patsy Ramsey lost it?
I read somewhere on Reddit that this lady was a pageant mom and her daughter did pageants with Jonbenet, she said she witnessed Patsy hit (maybe just a pop) Jonbenet because she wouldn’t cooperate, idk if it’s 100% true or not and I saw on the picture she had when she had lipstick and her hair was flowing in back she had a bruise on her eyebrow
I don't think a parent invested in their child's looks would mark them in areas on show. Kids get cuts and bruises playing and generally being clumsy. That doesn't mean she wasn't abused in any way.
@@lornocford6482 A nanny or whatever she was worked in the home, and said everytime Jonbenet wet the bed she would take her in the bathroom and ig whoop her because she remember hearing Jonbenet screaming everytime it happened
@@nyasiia433 probably not where the marks showed though.
@@lornocford6482 and I’m sure she was cus why would someone that worked in the home would lie about that….. she was there everyday
Who would read anything before getting coffee? Lol
Wow! I didn’t know that house was that big!! Definitely someone could have been in thier for hours without anyone knowing or hearing them. Very possible the killer was in that house when the Ramseys left for the party at the neighbors, had the time to write the note while they were away, it specified a kidnapping and that was the plan but something went wrong. The note was not written after the fact. I do not believe the Ramseys were involved in their daughters murder.
They passed lie detector both of them
Didn't know about balcony he could have got in that way and out through basement, I think intruder wrote the letter to look like she left the house to give him time to get far away after
How the intruder knew where to find Patsy's notepad ?
They had huge house with lots of rooms but in the front it lookslike small.
So many shocked at the bedroom assignments. Would you expect John and Patsy to not use the master on the 3rd floor? Yes, it was a huge house, and JonBenet had the second best room in the house, and it most likely had nothing to do with what happened there.
Jonbenets room looks like the master bedroom. Huge and open with a balcony/terrace. On the opposite end of the house. Very creepy. Easy Access for any predator.
Looks like Jonbenet got the best room in the house all to herself (looks like a party/ballroom it's so large.) Seems suspicious AF. Is there a staircase to the terrace? Cuz that looks more than a balcony to me
It was a room that predators could have easy access to. So sad
How did the father know where she was...?
John controlled the security system alarm that night. He only had it turned on while he was murdering Jonbenet and turned it off after Patsy wrote the ransome note and they decided to make the 911 call.
Her wrists were NOT wrapped in duct tape. Unless this reporter knows something we don't.
I couldn't live there if they gave me the house for free and I'm poor and live in an apartment. Strangely Televangelist Robert Schuller of the Crystal Cathedral's daughter, Carol Milner and her husband Tim bought the John Ramsey house of all people. They say "it's a wonderful place to live now": New owner of the JonBenet Ramsey murder house opens up about making a home at the site of one of America's most notorious cold cases. Tim and Carol Milner and their five children moved into the home once owned by the Ramsey family in 2004 Mrs Milner, the daughter of the late televangelist Robert Schuller, says the house feels like home now, despite it's dark history that appears to contradict real estate records that show the Milner family have tried to sell the home on at least four different occasions.
I bet they never even slept in that home nor stepped foot in it, I feel like it’s just off maybe haunted
I read, they didn't own that house, it was actually owned by Johns Boss... They where renting the house...
Lockheed owned it..
Why these type of incident have a creepy and haunted feeling
I'd never put my kids under me - I would have taken that room with the balcony and given the kids the top - you'll have to get thru me first .....
That's a really weird house. It's only like 50 feet wide but 500 feet long. The bedrooms are enormous but the living room is very tiny. I would not buy that house even if I could afford it. Lot better houses in similar price range or even cheaper.
I agree! My home is 4000 square feet but it's wide open. I'm guessing it's an older home with the way it was so chopped up. Who would want climb three flights of stairs to go to bed at night? Not me
I love the floor plan it’s unique
@@beckydennis6591
4000 sq ft is kinda just normal these days.
This house was 7000 sq ft. It was huge.
Jc there were balcony's outside? Hell anyone could've got in there. I never knew there were balconys
I bet her parents kept her balcony door locked.
Gee, the kids bedrooms were rather far from adult's room.