How to convert Ryobi P117 charger from 120V to 230V use.

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  • @petti78
    @petti78 8 лет назад +53

    One of the best no-bullshit clear explanations of a typical mains input circuitry I've ever seen. Thank you sir!

  • @JamesMorse-dd6ry
    @JamesMorse-dd6ry Год назад +59

    This charger ruclips.net/user/postUgkxknS1MWclRHOKWekYXnBJz8Ex0rEPnrGF works great with the DCB205 and DCB203, I've charged both a few times without issue. After I'd searched for a while this was the best value charger I found and it's new, boxed up well, and it's built as well as any charger I've had.

  • @ilaril
    @ilaril 8 лет назад +34

    Nice video. I just wish you'd shown us when you modded the charger, not just the end result. For some reason I enjoy looking when others solder.

  • @tianxizheng6647
    @tianxizheng6647 8 лет назад +62

    Looks like that pre-exploded power bar came on handy after all ;)

    • @andy11894
      @andy11894 8 лет назад +11

      glad i wasnt the only 1 who knew where it was from :)

    • @hackeritalics
      @hackeritalics 7 лет назад +3

      I'm not going to lie, I looked for it a bit at the end when he started up the charger.. Then it hit me like a ton of bricks. LOL! It's been a while since I watched that one, but man... You might be even sicker than me for noticing that! x3

    • @tianxizheng6647
      @tianxizheng6647 7 лет назад

      yeah, I'm kind of a big fan of clive

    • @Psm1975atmedotcom
      @Psm1975atmedotcom 7 лет назад +3

      I wasn't happy with the supplied Ryobi charger. In my mind, the battery should go on the charger, not the charger on the battery!
      Whilst in the states I saw this charger and thought I should research if it would work in the UK. Almost instantly I found the link to this video.
      I ordered the parts and received a 14N431K instead of the suggested 14D471K. Fitted it, cut the link, added the 4 resistors and the charger worked first time.
      Thanks for making this video.

  • @johndavis4800
    @johndavis4800 8 лет назад +1

    Another outstanding vid, Clive, you're the man! Your analysis and interesting patter is reminiscent of a few top notch instructors I can still remember as a jeep radar tech while attending basic electronics school at Kessler AFB in 1957. Yep, they actually taught a full years circuit fundamentals back in the day before one ever got into the guts of the "set" he would ultimately learn. It's been a real treat to get an occasional refresher brush up from a genuine pro, these 6 quick decades later....

    • @thelight3112
      @thelight3112 3 года назад

      I went through electronic principles at Keesler about 5 years ago. I think it was 7 weeks at Dolan Hall... barely enough time for the beginners to learn what a capacitor was. The instructors did a good job with the time they were given. There are pictures on the wall there from classes in the 50s!

  • @Frankemand
    @Frankemand 8 лет назад +7

    I watch all you videos, and because of that i was not afraid to buy a bunch of Ryobi tools last week when i was in the US that included this Quick Charger. I have now modified the charger according to you instructions, and it works perfectly! :-)
    Thanks Clive for a super RUclips Channel - keep up the good work!
    Greetings from Denmark.

  • @Graham_Langley
    @Graham_Langley 8 лет назад +5

    Just pulled out the only traced cct I could find of a PSU using this 120/240V switching (a 200W PC PSU traced in '93) and it had 120k ½W balancing resistors across 470u caps, so your 220k across 220u looks spot on.

  • @rexdoran2051
    @rexdoran2051 8 лет назад +8

    A couple of months ago I decided to learn something about electronics. I must be making progress, I almost completely understood this.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 8 лет назад +37

    It's stupid that when pretty much all SMPSUs have universal input, power tool chargers are stuck in the stone age.
    110V is common on UK building sites for safety ( some even prohibit 240v ) , so universal input would be useful.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +5

      What are your thoughts on my addition of balancing resistors? Was I being too pessimistic?

    • @jimmymclemore9807
      @jimmymclemore9807 8 лет назад +5

      No, I think you know the proper way a circuit should be constructed without cutting corners.

    • @AttilaAsztalos
      @AttilaAsztalos 8 лет назад +4

      Nah, too pessimistic would be adding another two sets of resistors in parallel with the first set, just in case that one goes open circuit... ;)

    • @mikeselectricstuff
      @mikeselectricstuff 8 лет назад +3

      Can't hurt - probably not needed in voltage doubler configuration so if PCB not designed to be adaptable there was probably no reason to put spaces for them.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +8

      And yet two redundant diodes and a link as if intending for dual voltage manufacturing option. Having since looked at other brands being converted to 230V use I've noticed a striking circuitry similarity, but with the resistors already across the caps.

  • @joshuabest100
    @joshuabest100 4 года назад

    I just bought one of these chargers from someone for spares or repairs and I knew instantly what had happened as I know you cant get these chargers in the uk so I got it for a good price opened it up and instantly noticed the fuse was disintegrated and the move was blown to bits straight away I knew someone had plugged this charger into 240v so I replaced all the components and did the 240v conversion on it and I've got it working thanks clive

  • @adilmalik7066
    @adilmalik7066 8 лет назад +1

    the MOVs are usually rated with RMS voltage on the package it self. so the MOV should work fine in the UK. Excellent video as usual!

  • @lmic891
    @lmic891 8 лет назад

    I literally just bought a Ryobi drill with this One+ battery system. Glad to know BigClive approves!

  • @geoffballinger3724
    @geoffballinger3724 6 лет назад

    I followed your (very clear) recommendations and now have a fully working 'UK' charger.Love the videos and the accent (Edinburgh?). Keep 'em coming Clive.

  • @Seegalgalguntijak
    @Seegalgalguntijak 8 лет назад +2

    Thank you, this is a very important video, so that companies don't keep thinking they can sell their stuff cheap in one part of the world and rip off customers in another part.

    • @BTW...
      @BTW... 2 года назад +1

      Ryobi sells cheap stuff and crappy design stuff at a high price in all parts of the World.

    • @ewicky
      @ewicky 2 года назад

      @@BTW... LMAO

  • @Johnnyafc
    @Johnnyafc 8 лет назад +29

    Big Clive and his teacher voice love watching these videos just needs a tweed jacket and elbow patches

    • @shurdi3
      @shurdi3 8 лет назад +6

      No no no, Clive's too trashy for that.
      He'd come in to lectures with sweatpants on and an orange jacket.

    • @JanBabiuchHall
      @JanBabiuchHall 8 лет назад +9

      I'd come to those lectures even if they were at 8am. But knowing Clive they'd be anytime between 10pm and 4am.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +17

      It's OK. There'd be a bar and hot snacks.

    • @mcomiskey7
      @mcomiskey7 4 года назад

      That's more @ralphydotcom 's gimmick.

    • @adrianovergara1784
      @adrianovergara1784 4 года назад

      @@bigclivedotcom can I do this with the P118 the black charger.

  • @gazzaka
    @gazzaka 8 лет назад

    I would have been tempted to try removing the varistor and also tempted to see if the series cap's balanced themselves, or used a zener diode on the output, but I don't know, so bow to your greater knowledge Sir Clive....

  • @JanBabiuchHall
    @JanBabiuchHall 8 лет назад

    Thanks, Clive! This video is super helpful for me. I moved to Europe a little while back and have been meaning to bring over my Ryobi power tools but stalled on it because I thought I'd have to either bite the bullet and buy those expensive chargers or run them through a step down transformer. Never would have thought it'd be this easy to convert the ones I have (slightly different type but I'll try to figure them out per analogiam).
    So yeah, much appreciated content.

  • @electrodacus
    @electrodacus 8 лет назад +3

    My guess (based on the odd placement) is that they will use a single 400V rated capacitor instead of the two 200V ones so they do not need those balancing resistors.

    • @valentinbutanescu3862
      @valentinbutanescu3862 8 лет назад

      Correct. Optimally when used in the voltage doubler configuration there's no need for resistors and when used at EU mains one single capacitor would be used.

  • @johnkimani254
    @johnkimani254 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Clive for a crystal clear explanation. I used this video to convert this charger 3 years ago. I recently bought another one as a backup and to increase charging capability. The new one (still P117) seems to have a slightly different circuitry. I'm no electrical/electronics engineer and so I'm stumped!! Got any tips on converting the new version (Made in Vietnam, previous was in China)? Not sure if it is possible for me to share photos/video.

  • @SuperFredAZ
    @SuperFredAZ 8 лет назад +16

    It may have been a bit cleaner to replace the two capacitors in series, with a single 100 uf 450 V Capacitor, and leave out the balancing resistors. Nice explanation.

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 8 лет назад +6

      +John Coops a) a cap like that is a lot more expensive than a couple resistors b) the whole point of the link is to make it a nearly-dual voltage standard supply. No need to make it difficult to convert back.

    • @zwz.zdenek
      @zwz.zdenek 8 лет назад +4

      These capacitors can get somewhat expensive. And it may be difficult to get a matching quality one like those in a top-notch power supply.
      I would personally leave the resistors out, or use 1M resistors like the computer PSUs have. The capacitors don't really need balancing because they have extremely high internal resistance and that resistance tends to go lower with voltage creating negative feedback. I've been running several for over a year without an issue. No balancing needed. They only put the resistors in there to reduce the risk of shock.

    • @khronscave
      @khronscave 8 лет назад +1

      In some cases, such as older and/or cheapo computer PSUs which employ a half-bridge topology, that's not really an option, since the center tap of the transformer goes to the mid-point of the high-voltage DC rail.
      Not in this case here, since it's a "lowly" flyback, but "just sayin' "... :)
      That being said though, i shudder at the sight of CapXon capacitors >_< Preeeetty sure the 200v ones are KM's.

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 8 лет назад

      Jeez, if you don't even like capxons, you've got real high standards.

    • @khronscave
      @khronscave 8 лет назад +3

      Jasper Janssen You're almost making it sound like that's a bad thing :P
      Thing is, CapXons **WILL** fail, same as Fuhjyyu, and countless other chinese (off-)brands.
      Let me put it this way - i trust the USED japanese caps i've reclaimed from various gear i've torn down & gutted for parts, than any of these crap brands, even if new.

  • @AuralVirus
    @AuralVirus 8 лет назад +2

    Clive is there a way to convert a battery operated drill or tool into a wired form? As you know the batteries die and it's often cheaper or more practical to just buy another drill.
    Is there anyway to utilize these drills that are mechanically fine but have no battery packs? or do you have another suggestion?
    Possibly an idea for a video?

  • @morays
    @morays Год назад

    Hi, we are moving back to the UK with a bunch of Ridgid lithium battery tools. The charger states that it is 110V ~ 60Hz. I know that I can get a step-down transformer to supply the charger, but do j need to worry about the differing frequencies? Ryobi and Ridgid are pretty interchangeable here, and you don't mention the frequency compensation in this video so I was hoping that it was a non-issue. Any help would be appreciated.

  • @zenzen9131
    @zenzen9131 8 лет назад

    Another excellent video Clive :) Please keep them coming.

  • @lorenzg.7337
    @lorenzg.7337 6 лет назад

    One of the best video i have ever seen on youtube!
    Thank you so much for your explanations!

  • @clivebrooker1
    @clivebrooker1 5 лет назад

    Hi Clive, Do you know if you can do the same thing with the P118 PSU? As you say tools from the states are much cheaper but the kit of tools I'm looking at comes with the older P118 PSU. Many thanks.

  • @AutomotivEivind
    @AutomotivEivind 8 лет назад +2

    Thank you very much bigclive! This type of hack/conversion is great, and so satisfying to do.
    I was just thinking about it the other day, how the standard one+ dual chemistry charger takes a couple of hours to charge even the small (but good capacity actually) 2.5Ah battery. That one is charging at up to 1.8A according to specs. In Europe we get the RC18150 5A charger, which looks similar to the 3A P117. I have to do some price checking now! :)

    • @AutomotivEivind
      @AutomotivEivind 8 лет назад

      If I can salvage and reuse the parts needed for the conversion, I will save the equivalent of £10-15 on a P117 off eBay, compared to buying the RC18150 here in Norway.

  • @stevebabiak6997
    @stevebabiak6997 2 года назад

    One thing to also look at is the voltage rating of the fuse - in the USA fuses may have been used that are only rated for use with 125VAC.
    The voltage rating is a separate matter from the max current rating, in case you think I am confused …

  • @muh1h1
    @muh1h1 8 лет назад +9

    The minimum you'd had to do would be to rip out the varistor and the link, right? because it would work without the varistor wouldn't it?

    • @DrathVader
      @DrathVader 8 лет назад +7

      It would, but ripping out a safety feature might not be the best idea.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +9

      It would work, but I prefer the idea of replacing the MOV.

    • @hubok1080
      @hubok1080 8 лет назад +2

      In theory, yeah. But for the real sake of safety and the amount of pour being pumped through, you want the protection

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 8 лет назад +3

      Yeah it would work, but any large voltage spikes on the mains 'could' cause one of the rectifier diodes to go short, followed by he others in chain reaction!

    • @muh1h1
      @muh1h1 8 лет назад

      andygozzo72 that would not be very nice

  • @neutronstorm
    @neutronstorm 8 лет назад +1

    Should one replace the fuse with one of half the current as well? With the change of current would the in rush device also need to be changed to be complete? Why not replace the two caps with a single one or two in parallel?

  • @LesKing72
    @LesKing72 5 лет назад +1

    18:10 those two contacts are bridged together by the battery, and that's how the charger determines when a battery is present. I bridged them with a screwdriver for no good reason and the red LED started flashing as it does when it's analyzing a battery

  • @panard0
    @panard0 2 года назад

    Hi Clive! After removing that link, will the MOV replacement (14d471k) work for 220v? Or should I find a smaller one?

  • @dleivam
    @dleivam 4 года назад

    Thanks.. today I converted my P117 charger to 230V and so far it's working fine (no magic smoke nor fireworks). My only problem was to find the right screwdriver to remove those 4 fu.. tamper proof screws (I think they're called torx internal tamper proof screws).. It take a lot but at the end I found a bit that came on a set I bought several years ago and I've never used... until today.

  • @bokkenka
    @bokkenka 8 лет назад

    Congratulations on the successful conversion. I did kinda want a kablooie!, though.

  • @golanpeled8960
    @golanpeled8960 3 года назад

    great explanation. but not sure I understand, the second transformer need not to be replaced since the original design using only half of the sin wave? does it mean that after the conversion the output will be twice?

  • @mrclucker1969
    @mrclucker1969 8 лет назад +71

    And in the next video - an autopsy of a slightly melted Ryobi battery charger hehe

    • @zwz.zdenek
      @zwz.zdenek 8 лет назад +3

      Slow clap. He knows what he's doing. You don't because you weren't even able to recognize his knowledge.
      The use of kapton tape, the MOV that's really gilding the lily in terms of reliability... Something else might fail, but not the components he has replaced!

    • @mrclucker1969
      @mrclucker1969 8 лет назад +31

      zwz • zdenek You missed the joke of it - I have watched enough of Clive's work to know he is very skilled with electronics, but that does not preclude some friendly ribbing!

    • @zwz.zdenek
      @zwz.zdenek 8 лет назад

      Paul Roberts
      Ok.

  • @stevethorpe
    @stevethorpe Год назад

    Could I insert a switch between the rectifier and the capacitors instead of cutting the link, to make the charger switchable between 110V and 240V, or would the threshold of the varistor be too high in 110V mode?

  • @ciprianokritzinger3636
    @ciprianokritzinger3636 Год назад

    Good explanation. I had a 110V Ryobi charger connected it via a Voltage converter. The converted was capable of converting in both direction. Unfortunately I missed to select the output voltage to 110V and killed the charger with a 240V input. What component might have been damaged?

  • @gzgeorge9602
    @gzgeorge9602 8 лет назад

    Question re capacitor X2 (100nf 275V).
    Would that survive the 240V input (~330V peak) or should that also be replaced with a 400V capacitor?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад

      A 275 AC capacitor is rated to handle the peak voltage of the AC supply.

  • @DundeeRoad
    @DundeeRoad 8 лет назад +4

    Nice Video Clive!

  • @greenaum
    @greenaum 8 лет назад +6

    Clive's started pronouncing the second "i" in "milliamps"! Was this the result of some traumatic experience? Or being treated to cure some past one?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +8

      Just the realisation that I was pronouncing it too lazily.

    • @CryptidZookeeper
      @CryptidZookeeper 8 лет назад

      Now if we can just get you to pronounce Data the UK way... :)

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +2

      Which is different in areas of the UK. Dahtah in some and Daytah in others.

    • @greenaum
      @greenaum 8 лет назад

      Comes from "datum", "fact" in Latin. So should be day-tah really.
      I noticed a particularly conspicuous mill-I-amps in the poop illuminator vyde-oh.

    • @greenaum
      @greenaum 8 лет назад

      That link's supposed to start from 28 seconds into the video... and RUclips won't let me edit the comment.

  • @LakeNipissing
    @LakeNipissing 8 лет назад +2

    Clive, you did *not* lose the little green MOV. It stole the show from 14:23 right to the end of the video!

  • @botezatuilie
    @botezatuilie 5 лет назад

    Hello, i was wondering if i you can help me converting a Ridgid charger to accept 220vac model(R86092), currently the charger accepts only 120vac, thanks

  • @nomadification1
    @nomadification1 8 лет назад +3

    you should make a video about how to safely discharge large capacitors

    • @casper2501
      @casper2501 4 года назад

      Just put high value resistor to slowly discharge capacitor with small current

  • @jeffmee763
    @jeffmee763 6 лет назад

    Thanks Clive job done as you showed us I used the 220k resisters works well Jeff.

  • @acmefixer1
    @acmefixer1 5 лет назад

    I once plugged a 120VAC power strip with surge protection into a 240VAC outlet. BANG! instant removal of the MOVs! It rattled a bit from the pieces inside. ☹️

  • @billspradlin9619
    @billspradlin9619 3 года назад +1

    Like to share my experience with my P117.
    Picked up a nonworking Ryobi P117 battery charger hoping I could fix. I've replaced one component so far TOP256, no dice.
    The other components I've ohmed out what I could, finding nothing shorted.
    So far, no luck. Without a schematic / road map it's rather difficult. I've downloaded lots of RUclips videos but still no dice.
    Before replacing any components check the windings on the main Transformer.
    The 'high voltage' on the primary circuit side isn't working. You should hear a bussing sound (the high voltage oscillator) feeding the primary winding.
    This circuit powers the primary winding of the yellow transformer in the middle.
    The primary winding has four pins. The resistance within these types of transformers, usually have a low resistance. Two pins have a very low resistance (ohms). The other two on the primary side measure a very high resistance of megaohms. At the time I wasn’t sure why. I would have expected a low reading of around 20 ohms.
    The secondary winding also had four pins and all four measured a low resistance.
    I decide to unsolder the transformer because what do I have to lose, it doesn’t work anyhow.
    I found the wire coming from the winding was broken off at the soldering pin of the transformer. Soldered the broken wire back to the pin.
    It’s fixed.

  • @SammyInnit
    @SammyInnit 7 лет назад

    Hi Clive, I wondered if you could help. This video stuck in mind trying to answer this question. As I'm sure you know, brands such as Makita, DeWalt etc sell 110v chargers for a much higher price with the tradesman in mind where on site power is 110v. So to get around this I've always used a 110v to 240v inverter as that's much cheaper than buying 110v chargers for all my tools. However, a friend has made a 110v to 240v domestic socket fly-lead and he powers his standard 240v chargers on the site 110v that way without a problem. Is it just a marketing gimmick selling the expensive 110v versions? Could it damage the battery some how? Hope you get time to help me answer this one.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  7 лет назад +1

      Some chargers are rated universal voltage and will run from about 100V to 250V. If they are designed only for 240V then they may be unstable on 110V, but they shouldn't damage the battery. DeWalt and some others do milk tradesmen. They base the price on their perceived value in time to the tradesman.

    • @SammyInnit
      @SammyInnit 7 лет назад

      bigclivedotcom thanks for that!

  • @rhkips
    @rhkips 8 лет назад

    Perhaps a question I'll get some flack for asking, but I had learned RMS to be .707 many, many years ago, but you seem to use its double, 1.414. What's the difference, if any? Obviously the equation used is opposite, but are they both called RMS, or is .707 something different? :]

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +2

      Wrong direction. 0.707 is for converting back from peak to RMS on a sinewave..

    • @rhkips
      @rhkips 8 лет назад

      Ah, okay. Thank you! :)

    • @CryptidZookeeper
      @CryptidZookeeper 8 лет назад +1

      It's not actually it's 'double', it's sqrt(2) (ie 1.4142), and then to get the conversion the other way (which you're thinking of), we do 1/sqrt(2) which gives the familiar 0.7071....

  • @EeroFluge
    @EeroFluge 8 лет назад

    You should have included the de-soldering and soldering part. We all love watching your soldering.

  • @emceh
    @emceh 4 года назад

    Any hints how to charge such battery with RC charger? I give 5S rated voltage on + and - terminals and after some time I get broken connection error (somehow BMS disconnects battery).

  • @Teth47
    @Teth47 8 лет назад

    You'd mentioned it beffore, but I don't remember what video it was on, what is that red-capped block you plug anything without an outlet into? I need one and can't for the life of me find it.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/_DTmL73th7Y/видео.html

  • @jeffmee763
    @jeffmee763 6 лет назад +1

    Hi Clive what fuse should I use a 3amp or 13 for 3 pin plug thanks again for your time learning all the time. Jeff

  • @dalejones6095
    @dalejones6095 7 лет назад

    hey i accidently left my love 120volt charger as show in this video plugged in and applied 240volt to it. now it doesnt work. what do you thinkni blew in it. fuse looks good

  • @Billy-rr7re
    @Billy-rr7re 3 года назад

    isn't the diode at the bottom supposed to be conducting effectively shorting the bottom capacitor?

  • @mibars
    @mibars 8 лет назад

    It reminds me of a Roomba power supply that I converted to 230V - It was even simplier: Replace MOV and one capacitor and you are good to go, all other circuits are common with EU version :)

  • @martinsmith349
    @martinsmith349 5 лет назад

    Great post Clive, I have a question. Having rushed back from the states and plugged it into the 240 outlet of a duel transformer in haste I've blown both capacitors! What is your recommendation - try to source the same two US spec or replace with a UK spec resistor or resistors ?
    I would imagine UK spec ? If so can you clarify if one or two and the exact specification please.
    Many thanks again

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  5 лет назад

      You may have caused more damage than just the capacitors. You could try swapping the capacitors and maybe the transient suppressor too if its been damaged.

    • @martinsmith349
      @martinsmith349 5 лет назад

      @@bigclivedotcom Thanks Clive appreciate the response. Im about to transfer the new Capicators today as described in the video. Will let you know how it goes

    • @martinsmith349
      @martinsmith349 5 лет назад

      No Joy Clive - Will try the transient suppressor once Ive found out what Im looking for ...

  • @_a.z
    @_a.z 8 лет назад

    You wouldn't need the R's if it's only intended for 120v use. .. useful video thanks!

  • @paulogoncalves729
    @paulogoncalves729 7 лет назад

    hello i have an hilt c4/36 CPC is in 110v and i put a 220v electric plug, but green light is blinking like temperature problème, and battery don't charge there is something more to do?
    BR

  • @vrzn
    @vrzn 4 года назад

    i think the circuitry for operating without the relay engaged is for a pre charge function, for when the battery is under voltage, but i might be wrong

  • @nickmiller9537
    @nickmiller9537 4 года назад

    What about a UK plug charger in america?? I got the bosch mini chainsaw and need to convert it to US.. the bottom of the charger only says 220-240 50/60.. but the caps and everything inside is 250v :/

  • @joradcliffe565
    @joradcliffe565 7 лет назад

    There is another garden tool company, Greenworks, that make products much cheaper for Brits to ship from USA and have the same unavailability of 240 volt AC input for chargers of 40 volt output and 80 volt output. Be great to see mods of those, particularly the 80 volt, if they come your way.

  • @StanleyKubick1
    @StanleyKubick1 7 лет назад

    Such a great explanation. So great that I'm somehow understanding everything. Your fabulous accent is just a bonus, where is that from? =)

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  7 лет назад

      +Ace Futura Scottish accent.

    • @StanleyKubick1
      @StanleyKubick1 7 лет назад

      I thought so! But my friend who lived in newcastle was like "no, he's english" (we're Icelanders, and not versed in your island's many many accents)

  • @dsmiffyrc
    @dsmiffyrc 8 лет назад

    Clive, are you aware that RS is now free shipping. I am not sure if this covers IoM but is worth a look. I have switched to using RS more for oddball items because of this.

  • @TheSpectreN8
    @TheSpectreN8 8 лет назад

    What was the cost in doing it yourself vs buying one already adapted for UK use? If you didn't have the parts etc how hard are they generally to come buy? As US prices are generally cheaper could you feasibley buy all your electronics from the US and convert them cheaper than buying UK ready/certified equipment?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +2

      Cost of components was less than a pound, plus I bet they don't add the balancing resistors on the converted ones. Not all 120V equipment can be easily converted to 230V.

  • @DEADB33F
    @DEADB33F 8 лет назад

    Have you tried RS components?
    They do free mainland shipping for any sized order. No idea what their IOM surcharge is (if any), but it has to be less than Rapid.

  • @ronamer1
    @ronamer1 8 лет назад

    what is more efficient, 240 or 120? I have both wired throughout my house. I did it custom since I go between Asia and USA quite often. I have junk from both sides.

    • @khronscave
      @khronscave 8 лет назад +2

      I'd say 240 - you need lower currents, and as such, lower voltage drop across the wiring.

  • @charliearmorycom
    @charliearmorycom 8 лет назад

    Clive, are you sure that Third Contact is voltage sense and not a thermistor? Thanks.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад

      The thermistor is inside the battery pack. It's connected to the third connection.

    • @charliearmorycom
      @charliearmorycom 8 лет назад

      Sorry, I misunderstood something you said. It occurs to me that the split negative contact might be to detect insertion.

  • @MikeBehrensWX
    @MikeBehrensWX 3 года назад

    Weird request. The UK has a super fast charger not available in the US. Any chance of showing how to make that one work on the US grid?

  • @stevethorpe
    @stevethorpe 10 месяцев назад

    I made this conversation to use my US charger in the UK (240V). I did not add the registers. It turns on but when I put a battery in to charge it the testing indicator (flashing red led) comes on and remains flashing; it never switches to the charging indicator.
    The battery is a good, working battery, nearly new and charges normally on my son's UK charger, which switches from testing to charging almost instantly.
    I don't know if it is actually charging on my modified charger; I didn't want to leave it flashing 'testing' for long in case it was somehow damaging the battery.

  • @toolthoughts
    @toolthoughts 8 лет назад

    Very interesting! Do the Ryobi batteries have circuitry/connections for balanced charging?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад

      There's full balancing and protection circuitry inside the battery itself.
      ruclips.net/video/M5MSSVN9eWw/видео.html

    • @toolthoughts
      @toolthoughts 8 лет назад

      Thank you!

  • @kwslife116
    @kwslife116 2 года назад

    Old video but can you use one leg of the 240? And a neutral to make the 120? Like we do in the US.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  2 года назад

      We just have neutral and 240V. If we went across 2 phases it would be 415V.

  • @graham6411
    @graham6411 6 лет назад

    It looks as if they are using the 2 caps in series as a voltage divider to develop a common so that they have a split DC supply. If you cut the connection between power and the capacitive node then you remove common for the split supply. Otherwise there would be no need for a diode bridge, instead, just a pair of diodes. There would also be no need to have the series capacitors. A single cap rated at twice the voltage would suffice. I am a little confused by the design itself.

  • @mikewillis1592
    @mikewillis1592 8 лет назад

    You wouldn't expect balancing resistors across the capacitors with the link in because the voltage across them is defined to be 170V by the rectifier. It would just result in extra heat to dissipate.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад

      The full rectifier and link suggests deliberate facility for conversion to the 230V version. In that case it would require the balancing resistors.

  • @Growveguk
    @Growveguk 8 лет назад +2

    Clive, I found through experimentation that my UK green Ryobi One Plus chargers will run on DC from around 160v. I was looking into possibilities of using a solar string without a battery bank nor a charge controller. I would love to see an explanation of this to satisfy curiosity. I was actually going to email you. Sometime soon regarding this very question but. This prompted my message in haste!!

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +3

      If it's a simple one-voltage charger that was designed for rectified and smoothed 120V then the first thing that happens in the unit is the 120V AC gets converted to 170V. So by feeding it from a DC supply of around 150V to 180V you just do that in advance. A unit designed for dual voltage use like this one might not be happy with that though as the voltage doubler would be defeated and only one capacitor would be charged.

    • @JanBabiuchHall
      @JanBabiuchHall 8 лет назад

      +

    • @Growveguk
      @Growveguk 8 лет назад

      Here is the actual chargers I found to work Ryobi BCL1418H Would love to see a tear down vid on one of these some time to better explain how it is running on DC and also mine your knowledge as to the correct mods to do so safely!

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +1

      Most switchmode power supplies will run on DC because the incoming AC supply is converted to DC to start with. But they usually have a voltage range they will operate in. I've got one of the units you linked to and it seems to be rated for 220 to 240V operation, and that would suggest that the DC voltage you are providing it with is about half what it would normally expect. But many switchmode supplies will work down to unusually low voltages albeit with less predictability at the lower voltages.

  • @ziyad.mansur
    @ziyad.mansur 4 года назад

    Thank you, this was very interesting. Wondering what do you call that terminal used to plug in the stripped wires with the red hinged cover at 18:42? I would love to purchase one of those thingamajiggers for my projects. Thanks again.

  • @1965Haval
    @1965Haval 2 года назад

    Thank you bigclive for sharing this video. What about the fuse dose it need changing ?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  2 года назад

      The fuse should be fine. It would only blow in the event of catastrophic electronic failure anyway.

  • @MakeDoAndMend1
    @MakeDoAndMend1 8 лет назад

    Hmm I would also recomend that the Inrush Current suppressor is changed as well as it draws the same power rating in watts but as voltage is doubled the amps is halved so inrush supp resistance needs increasing. Also fuse rating will need to change as half current. Maybe Im wrong but food for thought...George

  • @yohojones
    @yohojones 2 года назад

    I've been waiting for the Usb C PD adapter for my Ryobi batteries for several years in Canada. I have the normal inverter but going from DC to DC is much preferred. I hope they release this soon so I can charge and use my Ryobi batteries with USB C chargers and devices.

  • @Ivo--
    @Ivo-- 8 лет назад

    THANK YOU. I was very surprised when I bought this think in the US that it wasn't universal voltage.

    • @acmefixer1
      @acmefixer1 5 лет назад

      The regulations are requiring the stuff to 'be green' and waste less power. So they put the jumper or for the PC power supplies they put a 120 / 240 switch.

  • @davec5613
    @davec5613 8 лет назад

    I was just looking to change the brake light bulb...
    Then I found this. Awesome and scary.

  • @teardowndan5364
    @teardowndan5364 8 лет назад +1

    You don't have the leakage current issue with a 120V voltage doubler input since both caps get charged to their respective half-wave peak. That's only an issue with the 240V mod.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +2

      The presence of the link and redundant part of the rectifier suggests that the unit was designed to be supplied as 120V and 230V versions. It seems odd to omit just two resistors that could also have doubled as safety discharge resistors.

    • @teardowndan5364
      @teardowndan5364 8 лет назад

      Since most switching supplies that I have taken apart don't shut down until their input capacitor has dropped below 80V, I am not surprised to see small power supplies omit them: their normal operation drains input capacitors most of the way within seconds already (330V to 80V is 93% of the energy gone) and their startup bias circuit will drain input caps down to 8V or whatever the chip's lock-out voltage is over the next 10 seconds or so.
      Also, unless the capacitors are horribly mismatched, their leakage increases with voltage and should make them reasonably self-balancing. May want to use 250V caps for this for extra tolerance though.

  • @Mrpurple75
    @Mrpurple75 4 года назад

    My mods are not to the supply but to the tool/battery interface. Using a 3D printer to make adaptors for my old cordless tools. Using black and decker batteries in a dewalt for instance

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun 2 года назад

    At the risk of sounding like an amateur (which I am), I have a question. Why do you not need to change the transformer? Wouldn't it require a different set of windings / ratio for a different input voltage?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  2 года назад +1

      When set to 120V the voltage is doubled, so the transformer section sees 240V for both systems.

    • @bikkiikun
      @bikkiikun 2 года назад

      @@bigclivedotcom : Thanks. This leads me to the follow up question: Is that, what that link between the Caps is doing?

  • @Neffers_UK
    @Neffers_UK 8 лет назад

    The Isle of Man charge is bloody ridiculous. It's about time it got sorted. If I can get a cheap deathadapter from china for peanuts inc shipping to England, why do you have to pay through the nose for something that could be smuggled in along with cheap tobacco and vodka? Takes the piss.
    Excellent mod Clive. Loved catching up on your vids. Been struggling of late and it's great to get back and watch stuff worth viewing.
    (Are those MOVs from the "surge protected" extension by any chance?)

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +2

      Yes they were. It always pays to hoard.

    • @Neffers_UK
      @Neffers_UK 8 лет назад

      It certainly pays for sure. The Mrs doesn't seem to agree though ha. Thanks again for the quality productions.

  • @DaveLennonCopeland
    @DaveLennonCopeland 8 лет назад

    Hey Clive, question, what is safer, UK mains or USA mains and why does America use 110 v mains?
    I'm not an electrician...

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +11

      Each has its own merits. UK mains is more dangerous from a shock risk as more current will flow in the event of an accidental contact, but the lower voltage of the American supply means that for a given load the current will be much higher and poses a greater fire risk in the event of a fault.

    • @DaveLennonCopeland
      @DaveLennonCopeland 8 лет назад

      bigclivedotcom
      Interesting, so I suppose it's "swings and roundabouts" then.
      Thanks :-)

    • @kleinstarnull
      @kleinstarnull 8 лет назад +7

      I think where the UK really has it on us is the more robust sleeved-pin, shuttered plug system and built in fuse. Our plug may be compact, but that's really the only thing we have going for us.

    • @Coolkeys2009
      @Coolkeys2009 8 лет назад +4

      The US system is also more complicated with 2 lives, neutral + ground to provide up to 240 volts for high power appliances. Double current = more expensive conductors. I doubt the US would design the system that way again. I believe some of the legacy is to do with Edison's original DC system.

    • @DaveLennonCopeland
      @DaveLennonCopeland 8 лет назад

      Hakase
      Compact yes, but not grounded, unlike in the UK. Most of Europe too, two pin non-grounded plugs... not safe.

  • @BedsitBob
    @BedsitBob 3 года назад

    How much current was the charger drawing from the mains, when it was running on 120v?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  3 года назад +1

      It would be closely related to the chargers power rating. Twice the current on 120V as 240V.

  • @yshouldicar3
    @yshouldicar3 8 лет назад

    Clive, you'd be able to add a switch where that link was right? Then you'd be able to change between the two supply voltages right?
    You could probably use a 2 pole 2 throw switch to also select between the two voltage dependent resistors too.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +2

      The same MOV would suit both. the risk of the voltage switch is that if it gets used frequently, then one day the unit will be powered with 240 while set to 120 and suffer damage.

  • @padathir
    @padathir 8 лет назад +1

    Something I was confused about at first is your use of "modest", where I am from that would imply 'not very much', whereas it seems you are using it to mean 'a significant amount'

    • @spodule6000
      @spodule6000 8 лет назад +1

      Clive's continual misuse of "modest" is one of his charming little ways that I've gotten used to.

    • @johnfrancisdoe1563
      @johnfrancisdoe1563 6 лет назад

      padathir He's using the word ironically. He likes describing big problems with small words. Like saying something is a little dangerous when most people would call it deadly.

  • @jeffmee763
    @jeffmee763 6 лет назад +1

    I found out the wire with markings on it is the neg or blue for uk plug.

  • @vadimkasmtp
    @vadimkasmtp 3 года назад

    Ryobi updated schematic of P117 charger. Now it has single diode brige and only one capacitor 150uF*200V. TOP256en was replaced by 6 pin Voltage Regulator 73L21a (I did not find any datasheet on it) and transistor 13N50.
    I replaced varistor to 430V ant capacitor to 100uF*400V. When I plug charger to 230V red LED is on. But when I put a battery red LED starts flashing, then green LED blink once and this repeat again.
    Does onyone has idea how to fix it? Charger and battery are brand new and I can not check its separetly.

    • @stuartwalbridge3167
      @stuartwalbridge3167 3 года назад

      Very happily converted a P117 charger 2 years ago. Acquired another new one this morning and see the circuit has been changed, so I guess I’m looking for a 230/110 volt transformer or some nifty circuitry to halve the voltage instead!

  • @ChaplainDaveSparks
    @ChaplainDaveSparks 2 года назад

    Maybe I'm missing something here, but ...
    Why would you replace a 270 v MOV with a 470v version, and not 540v? (Other than the fact you have one available?)
    Or maybe the original design should have had two 270v MOVs with a link shorting one, using the same philosophy as the other link.

  • @Spiz103
    @Spiz103 8 лет назад

    What is the voltage rating on those American single insulated flexes? I suppose with only 120V there is not as much risk of fatal shocks from abraded cords.

    • @jgroenveld1268
      @jgroenveld1268 8 лет назад

      What is the amperage on a UK circuit? I heard it is higher than 13 amps so he might still need a fused plug.

    • @Spiz103
      @Spiz103 8 лет назад

      If he is connected to a radial it would be 20 or 30A, a ring main could be 30A. And those are just typical circuits, there are higher rated ones in some installations.

  • @SpiderPg92
    @SpiderPg92 8 лет назад

    Interested to know where you are purchasing these from America. amazon, ebay something like that?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +1

      This unit was given to me for conversion. Sadly I paid over the odds by buying my tools in the UK at our inflated prices.

  • @jeksona27
    @jeksona27 4 года назад

    hello guys. I did as explained in video, but unfortunately doesn't pass the transformer it has 85V on each leg. checked almost every components looks ok. what could be the cause? thanks

  • @SwordQuake2
    @SwordQuake2 8 лет назад

    Why is there a surcharge for The Isle of Man? What about the other UK islands, or if the company's in Great Britain and you - in Northern Ireland, or vice-versa?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +1

      Royal Mail costs the same to here as anywhere else in the UK, but couriers add a small charge to cover the ferry shipping across.

  • @i-will-get-you-there
    @i-will-get-you-there 8 лет назад

    Very nice...
    Like this video..... Very much!
    It would be very interesting to see the other way around too, ie. LED stuff from 240 to 120.

  • @stevelane1956
    @stevelane1956 6 лет назад

    Can the US 120 volt charger be used over here just plugged into my 110 volt transformer?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  6 лет назад

      It should be OK in a traditional 110V transformer.

    • @stevelane1956
      @stevelane1956 6 лет назад

      Many thanks, I bought the Airstrike stapler from the U.S and it came with the US charger. although I did buy a UK one I can still use this as a spare on site, just change the plug to a 110 volt.

  • @PlaysGames11
    @PlaysGames11 6 лет назад

    I hope I'm not too late but what's the purpose of the capacitor you drew at 3:52 ?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  6 лет назад

      The X2 capacitor is a standard interference suppression capacitor it acts like a tiny buffer that softens sudden spikes and shunts high frequency electrical noise.

  • @avi8r66
    @avi8r66 4 года назад

    Ive got 2 of these things. Both failed after 3 or 4 charges. Both failed in seemingly the same way (just goes dead, no lights), I replaced the switch mode power supply chip (6pin thing on the heat spreader) of one, no change. Fuse is fine, no idea what else it might be. But, lots of others in the reviews say theirs also failed early in it's life.

  • @scottlundy257
    @scottlundy257 8 лет назад

    Nice work as usual its very educational watching your channel some time i think i am beginning to learn a little bit of how electronics work. Just enough to be dangerous