Good to see more being done with the PRC case. 5yrs ago I designed and built a 358cal wildcat on the 300RCM case. The rifle it's chambered in, is a Mod70 featherweight, 26" SS barrel, pillar and glasses wood featherweight stock.
@@jasonshults368 The cartridge is quite improved from the parent case. I wanted the long barrel not only for maximum velocity during testing, but for taming muzzle jump for offhand hunting applications as well as quicker follow up shots.
Man I’m glad you mentioned using the A Tip for hunting. I crushed two bucks last year with a 153 A Tip from my 6.5 PRC. I’m going to be loading the 230 A Tip in my long action 300 WSM
Greg, your new cartridge line sound efficient, accurate and functional. I have a couple of improved cartridges and have also heard that case stretch is less and the powder burn angle is kept inside of the case neck, just as you say here. How you designed the case, so that you can shoot the parent case without case stretch and without jamming bullets into the lands, is also smart and will increase case life. I also like the components you are using, including the TH scope. Your ideas/views about loading cartridges below max, is smart, safe and much better than shooting loads which are too hot. Cases don't last long and reliability can be questionable with too of of loads, especially when shooting in hot weather and they can be problematic when hunting. I have learned a lot from your videos and appreciate your insight and knowledge. Have you tried a badlands 100 gr bulldozer in your 6mm? They are quite effective, with a high BC and good killing ability, but are a bit more picky with seating depth/loading than a standard lead-core/jacketed bullet. Your choice of using the SAC dies/bushings are also smart as they are top top quality and will produce excellent results. I also like the inline dies as I often do load development at the range, using my portable arbor press and an electronic scale/battery pack. I assume you are using ADG or similar high quality type brass? Thanks for sharing your knowledge and equipment expertise.
Man that’s effing AWESOME! Super rad load development there, bud.. Some constructive opinion: Id call it the 6ppc, or 6 Primal Precision Cartridge... or if it’s a matter of folks understanding that this 6 was born from a PRC, then I’d refer to it as the 6mm PPRC or 2PRC, for Primal Precision Rifle Cart. Identifiers notwithstanding, I really enjoyed this video; great work on the technicals and thanks for sharing!
It was interesting what you said about the 40 degree shoulder causing less unburnt powder to leave the case early which lowers throat erosion. I hadn’t thought of that before but it makes sense. It seems like the Ackley shoulder is ideal but I guess bigger cartridge makers err on the side of reliability/feeding etc rather than efficiency and performance.
@@willo7734 it’s mostly a brass manufacturer problem. They can’t figure out how to lower their loss rate on the steep shoulders. Many other reasons as well.
Enjoyed your description of this cartridge. You mentioned sub moa accuracy and I only target shoot after I stopped hunting years ago. I'd like to know more on consistency and is it possible to show a video on the range shooting at various distances. Sounds like a great improvement.
Awesome!! 6mm Prc Ackley Improved.... now when is hornady gonna do this w the 7prc? I want a true magnum 6mm. 500 yard aim for hide kill anything gun !!!
Hey Greg, are the rifles using a standard short length action or the medium length commonly used with the PRC? Also is there link somewhere for all the Primal cartridges and dies? Looked on your website but didn't find anything
@@primalrights Awesome, thanks for the reply! Just curious are you seating the bullet into the neck/shoulder junction at all? Personally haven't loaded for the PRC and was under the impression if loaded to mag length for a short action the bullet would be entering the neck/shoulder junction a fair bit. Thanks again!
@@redrooster527 What you're saying is true of the 6.5mm and 7mm PRC Primal... where we offer them in mid-length actions. However, the 22 and 6 PRC Primal set the bullets up correctly above the neck/shoulder junction in a short action. I specify this in the video. You should watch the whole thing through. ;)
Greg your Killing me here! I did watch the whole video but what action are you using in your builds? Also can someone order a rifle with a Brux or Bart barrel? I can't imagine a finer 6mm. One gun I would love to have for all my deer hunting. Can't own a can where I live but a nice MB would be awesome. Thx for the video. Its calling me.
@@primalrights possibly tipped with a 3 port Muscle brake? So this spring is when one can put an order in for one of these? I have to pay for my custom Muzzleloader first but then my custom 6mm. :)
Hey Greg, I would love to see some data on some data on monolithic projectiles. In particular I would be interested in seeing the Hornady CX 90 grain data. I have a 243 that has done very well with the 80gr CX projectiles on deer. Another 400 fps and 10 grains would mean some serious down range performance.
Could you do a similar configuration using a 7mm PRC case, necked down to 257? This would be interesting with the new 135 grain offering from blackjack bullets.
Looking at a new rifle build for target. Was shooting 270 Winchester AI. Great rifle stacked holes. This looks like a good 6mm. Less recoil, lingerie brass life, and good balance between powder capacity and over bore. Should get reasonable barrel life.
Hi Greg, from Alberta (cold white North) this wildcat looks awesome, can you supply the reamer, and dies. If so what is the wait time. Thanks in advance.
@@primalrights You will be getting an order from me in spring, thank you for the prompt reply. KS Arms in Edmonton is my go to for actions and barrels, they supply the Canadian F class team and a lot of Scandinavian countries, Karl and his sons produce some of or probably the best quality here in Canada. ( Go and no go gauges??)
Big 6.5prc fan and take it to the limit with the 95gr v max….check out Jeff Hankins Greg at Hankins custom rifles and give him some love…he’s in my state of good ol Ky and his muzzleloaders produce 3800fps I think with a 350gr bullet..incredible energy and shoots a deer with one on his channel ands the most hugest exit wound I promise you’ll ever see…loadin this little 40gr v max atm with h335 gettin 3350ish 16” carbine..
Hello, just recently come across your channel And Really enjoy your message and the information you put out. I also love the fact you're a christiand you have strong Christian values. That being said. I'm a .25cal fan Just curious do you plan on making a .25 PRC primal or would you be interested in making A .25 PRC primal? I'm in the process of having one of my 25-06 Re barreled to an akley improved with a faster twist Which will let me shoot these longer heavier Bullets on the market . Anyway, just curious if you're planning on or would consider making A .25 PRC.primal I would be very interested
I like that 3rd mag too…identical to my fn special police.308 which has a Macmillan stock…think they were made for fbi I was told and older gentleman sold his prized one to me…I run the 110gr v max with 42gr of imr4198 and get over 3500fps….wonder what that’d do to a ol prairie rat….🚀💥
Just threw those numbers into a ballistic calculator. 110 A tip @3250 is under 20 minutes of angle come up to 1k yards in my average conditions. 18.5 MOA first run.
I often wonder why the 25-35-degree shoulders even still have a place in bolt gun chambers. The case longevity and growth of a 40-degree shoulder is just so much less than a regular 6mm. This looks like a fantastic modification to the caliber. Hard to argue against it with one-hole groups across multiple groups like that. I know a few guys that run 40-degree shoulder cartridges and their brass and barrels definitely last longer than even 35-degree shoulder cartridges.
That is one method, but I find it less reliable and it requires the use of a significantly reduced charge, or you'll end up over-pressure and destroy the brass.
Ackley is at it again. Long live Ackley!
He was way ahead of his time!
@@primalrights What's the estimated market price for that package? And would it be available WITHOUT the optic?
Good to see more being done with the PRC case. 5yrs ago I designed and built a 358cal wildcat on the 300RCM case. The rifle it's chambered in, is a Mod70 featherweight, 26" SS barrel, pillar and glasses wood featherweight stock.
I love a good 35 cal! Why the long barrel, and what bullets do you prefer?
@@jasonshults368 The cartridge is quite improved from the parent case. I wanted the long barrel not only for maximum velocity during testing, but for taming muzzle jump for offhand hunting applications as well as quicker follow up shots.
Man I’m glad you mentioned using the A Tip for hunting. I crushed two bucks last year with a 153 A Tip from my 6.5 PRC. I’m going to be loading the 230 A Tip in my long action 300 WSM
About time someone started Ackley improving the more modern cartridges and offering them to the public
So basically you did an Ackley chamber. Awesome work. I’m interested in the 6.5prc x 7mm.
Search 7 PRCW
Appreciate the high quality content
Great video quality and nice informative layout on your experience thus far
Greg, your new cartridge line sound efficient, accurate and functional. I have a couple of improved cartridges and have also heard that case stretch is less and the powder burn angle is kept inside of the case neck, just as you say here. How you designed the case, so that you can shoot the parent case without case stretch and without jamming bullets into the lands, is also smart and will increase case life. I also like the components you are using, including the TH scope. Your ideas/views about loading cartridges below max, is smart, safe and much better than shooting loads which are too hot. Cases don't last long and reliability can be questionable with too of of loads, especially when shooting in hot weather and they can be problematic when hunting. I have learned a lot from your videos and appreciate your insight and knowledge. Have you tried a badlands 100 gr bulldozer in your 6mm? They are quite effective, with a high BC and good killing ability, but are a bit more picky with seating depth/loading than a standard lead-core/jacketed bullet. Your choice of using the SAC dies/bushings are also smart as they are top top quality and will produce excellent results. I also like the inline dies as I often do load development at the range, using my portable arbor press and an electronic scale/battery pack. I assume you are using ADG or similar high quality type brass? Thanks for sharing your knowledge and equipment expertise.
Lapua brass. Haven’t tried the bulldozers.
Man that’s effing AWESOME! Super rad load development there, bud..
Some constructive opinion: Id call it the 6ppc, or 6 Primal Precision Cartridge... or if it’s a matter of folks understanding that this 6 was born from a PRC, then I’d refer to it as the 6mm PPRC or 2PRC, for Primal Precision Rifle Cart.
Identifiers notwithstanding, I really enjoyed this video; great work on the technicals and thanks for sharing!
6mm ppc already exists
Hmmm, very interesting and very cool.
Great buck. Where was it struck and how did it react?
It was interesting what you said about the 40 degree shoulder causing less unburnt powder to leave the case early which lowers throat erosion. I hadn’t thought of that before but it makes sense. It seems like the Ackley shoulder is ideal but I guess bigger cartridge makers err on the side of reliability/feeding etc rather than efficiency and performance.
@@willo7734 it’s mostly a brass manufacturer problem. They can’t figure out how to lower their loss rate on the steep shoulders. Many other reasons as well.
Enjoyed your description of this cartridge. You mentioned sub moa accuracy and I only target shoot after I stopped hunting years ago. I'd like to know more on consistency and is it possible to show a video on the range shooting at various distances. Sounds like a great improvement.
Sounds like a true barrel burner how many rounds do you get before the barrel needs changed
Can't wait to hear about that barrel life. I'm sure it's not 500 rounds like that one commenter baselessly speculated 🤦♀️😂
A 6 CM starts to go south at 12-1400 rounds when shooting 20 round strings in a match. This is burning 15+ grains more powder.
Awesome!! 6mm Prc Ackley Improved.... now when is hornady gonna do this w the 7prc?
I want a true magnum 6mm.
500 yard aim for hide kill anything gun !!!
Hey Greg, are the rifles using a standard short length action or the medium length commonly used with the PRC? Also is there link somewhere for all the Primal cartridges and dies? Looked on your website but didn't find anything
Short action, as specified in video. Website will be updated when they are available in the spring/summer '23. :)
@@primalrights Awesome, thanks for the reply! Just curious are you seating the bullet into the neck/shoulder junction at all? Personally haven't loaded for the PRC and was under the impression if loaded to mag length for a short action the bullet would be entering the neck/shoulder junction a fair bit. Thanks again!
@@redrooster527 What you're saying is true of the 6.5mm and 7mm PRC Primal... where we offer them in mid-length actions. However, the 22 and 6 PRC Primal set the bullets up correctly above the neck/shoulder junction in a short action. I specify this in the video. You should watch the whole thing through. ;)
@@primalrights Ah, my apologies. Apparently I was half asleep watching the video the first time 😅
Cant wait for the 22 prc video!
Greg your Killing me here! I did watch the whole video but what action are you using in your builds?
Also can someone order a rifle with a Brux or Bart barrel?
I can't imagine a finer 6mm. One gun I would love to have for all my deer hunting. Can't own a can where I live but a nice MB would be awesome.
Thx for the video. Its calling me.
Lone peak fuzion actions. Benchmark barrels. 👍
@@primalrights possibly tipped with a 3 port Muscle brake? So this spring is when one can put an order in for one of these?
I have to pay for my custom Muzzleloader first but then my custom 6mm. :)
Sweet rig, sweet setup.
Whats the full hunting weight?
Hey Greg, I would love to see some data on some data on monolithic projectiles. In particular I would be interested in seeing the Hornady CX 90 grain data. I have a 243 that has done very well with the 80gr CX projectiles on deer. Another 400 fps and 10 grains would mean some serious down range performance.
I knew somebody was gonna slap a 22 bullet in a 6.5 prc
I have no use for a 22 caliber bullets on 1 to low of bc and not enough bullet weight for what I'd use the 6mm version
@@garyk76 varmint hunters have alot of use for them. Cheapest of about any bullet and the 6mm market all but dissapeared in a panic
Technically a 243
@@draconian6692 technically .243
I wonder what the 87 grain vmax would do in this cartridge?
great information as always!!
The 135 Berger in .257 would be a much better choice and should get better barrel life
I agree 💯
My adhd stared at that monitor screen the entire video 😂
I wonder if the new 6.8x 7.62 case with a steel base would handle the pressures of 70,000 +. New actions, better bullets, may rethink this.
Are there barrels being made for this cartridge that will fit the AR-10 platform? And if so who would be making them?
Could you do a similar configuration using a 7mm PRC case, necked down to 257? This would be interesting with the new 135 grain offering from blackjack bullets.
Greg, are these rifles available with out Optic? What is the wait time on the suppressor?
Yes, you can get them without optic. Suppressor lead times depend on the feds. 6mo. to 1.5yrs.
Greg, you said you were working on a 7mm version correct? Still based off the 6.5prc case and short action usable?
Yes. It will be for medium with heavies. It will work in a short with lightweight bullets. I already have barrels and dies.
Looking at a new rifle build for target. Was shooting 270 Winchester AI. Great rifle stacked holes. This looks like a good 6mm. Less recoil, lingerie brass life, and good balance between powder capacity and over bore. Should get reasonable barrel life.
Hi Greg, from Alberta (cold white North) this wildcat looks awesome, can you supply the reamer, and dies. If so what is the wait time. Thanks in advance.
We'll likely have reamers/dies available in the spring/summer '23. Complete rifle packages will come first.
@@primalrights You will be getting an order from me in spring, thank you for the prompt reply. KS Arms in Edmonton is my go to for actions and barrels, they supply the Canadian F class team and a lot of Scandinavian countries, Karl and his sons produce some of or probably the best quality here in Canada. ( Go and no go gauges??)
@@donaldpowers8331 The intent is to provide everything someone would need to service these cartridges. ;)
Will the 6mm Prc Primal ever be able to be put on an AR-15 platform? That interests me a lot. God is good . . . all the time!
Big 6.5prc fan and take it to the limit with the 95gr v max….check out Jeff Hankins Greg at Hankins custom rifles and give him some love…he’s in my state of good ol Ky and his muzzleloaders produce 3800fps I think with a 350gr bullet..incredible energy and shoots a deer with one on his channel ands the most hugest exit wound I promise you’ll ever see…loadin this little 40gr v max atm with h335 gettin 3350ish 16” carbine..
Hi Greg, will you please share the scope brands? I like those two reticles.
Those are the Tangent Theta scopes we sell. Give a call sometime and we can discuss! 605-554-1911
Well I just had a 7mm-6.5 PRC with a improved shoulder built about 2 months ago
Not seeing any dies on your website
Hello, just recently come across your channel And Really enjoy your message and the information you put out. I also love the fact you're a christiand you have strong Christian values. That being said. I'm a .25cal fan Just curious do you plan on making a .25 PRC primal or would you be interested in making A .25 PRC primal? I'm in the process of having one of my 25-06 Re barreled to an akley improved with a faster twist Which will let me shoot these longer heavier Bullets on the market . Anyway, just curious if you're planning on or would consider making A .25 PRC.primal I would be very interested
Hello and thanks! Nope, we have no plans for a .25cal at this time.
Sir, this definitely peaks my curiosity. Any idea on pricing?
Not as of yet, as there are a few details to nail down still. However, you can count on these systems being higher than an average custom build.
Sounds like around 7 thousand bucks for a rifle that will burn the barrel out at 600 rounds
They make new barrels every day!
Thank you 😊
One Cuestión please..??
Que marca de dies van a esta fabricando los dies disponibles para este calibre..?? Thank you
How do these compare to the Sherman Short cartridges?
How'd you get the dope sticker for the scope cap?
I like that 3rd mag too…identical to my fn special police.308 which has a Macmillan stock…think they were made for fbi I was told and older gentleman sold his prized one to me…I run the 110gr v max with 42gr of imr4198 and get over 3500fps….wonder what that’d do to a ol prairie rat….🚀💥
Only way to go brilliant.
When will the rifle be available for purchase?
I have one in stock now. Call for details.
Will you be offering prefit barrels for say a bighorn origin?
Perhaps. Lone Peak and Impact will likely come first.
Wow wicked rig
Now do 6mm-300 PRC, =)
My uncle has an old box of Remington accelerators….id love to have..
I like your style
I'm really needing one of your primer seaters...I have to save up first
Barns lrx would make a good deer bullet for the 6 prc
I can't find anyone claiming good accuracy from that 6mm LRX. Looked into them for 243 AI.
U didn't read my comment
Just threw those numbers into a ballistic calculator.
110 A tip @3250 is under 20 minutes of angle come up to 1k yards in my average conditions.
18.5 MOA first run.
I often wonder why the 25-35-degree shoulders even still have a place in bolt gun chambers. The case longevity and growth of a 40-degree shoulder is just so much less than a regular 6mm. This looks like a fantastic modification to the caliber. Hard to argue against it with one-hole groups across multiple groups like that. I know a few guys that run 40-degree shoulder cartridges and their brass and barrels definitely last longer than even 35-degree shoulder cartridges.
Indeed!
Graig you should offer prefits and like redding or forester dies for us poors that cant drop 2-5k for a rifle
Needs 308 barrel life 😆 💀 ☠️
110v max@3500 baby..24” heavy mod70 style fn action…💪🏻
Yay
Couldn't a person just jam a bullet into the lands to form?
That is one method, but I find it less reliable and it requires the use of a significantly reduced charge, or you'll end up over-pressure and destroy the brass.
NODES!
Nice. #!!! 😊😊😊
God is all
Waay overbore...barrel burner on steriods
Bless God Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lord's! This is a Kings rifle!