Zy0x’s unserious ass “skeletons” still cracks me up cause why did he word it like he did a heinous crime or sumn when all he did was invite a friend who invited their friends who kinda ruined a party for being drunk like it’s not even his fault 😂
I've been intentionally avoiding it due to all the potentially biased view points but you what fk it. I prefer only checking this stuff out after things have cooled down
@@MrSquishy0 After reading the doc, it honestly felt like Atsu blaming Tectone for a lot of his misfortunes - sure Tec might farm drama for monetary gain. But he would not go through with underhanded methods like Atsu.
Tectone is loud and annoying but that also means he doesn’t really do sneaky stuff like Ratsu does. He’s openly toxic but not driving people to near suicide like the rat did.
Tectone likes highschool girls and under so it's not surprising he wants to try so hard to act like a highschooler Edit: this is a joke don't start crying, it's not twitter
@@Synphss its depressing because despite what youve said hes the one more actively covering and making sense of the whole situation, getting evidence and bringing up many good points. the community right now is in a shit place and if your linking it simply to tectone then thats just too one sided
The community isn't in this stage thanks only to tectone but we need to be real right now, he's literally don't act like an adult, he may be right and everything but his way of doing think is immature. It's okay to be right and everything but thats not a good reason to ignore all his actions and his way of acting and doing things.
One thing that I don't like about this is that people call this whole situation "Genshin Impact drama". This is some people's drama that happen to be genshin streamers/youtubers...
The most bizarre aspect of this is Enviosity. Bro randomly got involved, got cooked, and now has comment sections filled with the word mintpicker. How does this happen
how did he get involved? I'have not been into all this drama but i havent seen his name mentioned once anywhere even tho i know he was good friends with other genshin cc
TL DR : envi is a drama queen In a nutshell , tectone starting streaming at the same time enviosity does and then tectone calling envi minkpicker because he was f2p , all of these things caused envi "ptsd". Envi cried for like half hour on stream instead of ending sooner as soon as he started melting down , and the fact is , his crying sounded very fake and any personal in their right mind would stop stream if they are having a melt down@@kiminamori8581
@@kiminamori8581he randomly started making bs about him getting ptsd from tectone out of nowhere and basically has no proof His ptsd is basically 'tectone said i pick mint and im stressed abt getting the character i want' He tried bringing down tectone by showing a vid where he argued with his exwife which is rly personal and just sht of enviosity 2 do Now we know the context between the arguing and tectones exwife was actually cheating on him and tectone was trying to keep his cool which didnt help our mint picker pal Tdlr, he got involved in a drama he doesnt need to b a part it, made some random bs ptsd excuse to sht on tectone and used very personal stuff to dunk on tectone
@@kiminamori8581 from what i understand, he inserted himself into it by making twitter posts trying to call out tectone during the drama, going so far as to use a clip that showed tectone being mad at his then wife and calling him a horrible person. (later the context of the clip was revealed to be that tectone had just caught his wife cheating and that's why he was mad)
I don't think it was his first intention(I dont think atsu should have name dropped so many people and it should have been settled privately but still), he just wanted to back up some of his claims with evidence as most people wont belive something without evidence(as paikon even says at the end) and also prob clear some things up but i think it just backfired
honestly his doc was a huge nothingburger, it definitely could've been narrowed down to maybe 3-5 pages. There's also no reason to mention like 50 other cc and rant about them
I’m sorry the main thing I got from this is he has a FULLTIME 9-5 JOB on TOP of streaming and making peak content??? This man is built different how do you do it
I skimmed through the document, and my doubts about this was touched upon in this video. The document is like everyone is wrong I'm the victim while name-dropping a ton of ccs, which makes it very hard to believe. Look, I feel bad that Atsu is going through a hard time, but this felt like a "I'm going down so I'll take everyone else down with me" while farming for sympathy on Twitter. Doesn't feel honest at all. Tbh it does feel like it's a bunch of kids fighting instead of grown ass adults
The Goose situation is pretty worse since Atsu would shit on him and then his community continued to harass Goose until he kept attempting self deletion and like accidentally doxxed Teccy cuz he wasn't in the right state of mind, it just kept getting so bad and Atsu NEVER apologized or took accountability nor cared about Goose or Tectone. He made the Zyox situation seem like SA when it wasn't, Tuonto was right to be mad but Saki said it was an accident so it doesn't even matter. But Jake was still mad even tho nobody told Brax ANYTHING and he deleted the post, apologized and never posted it again but Jake purposely doesn't say that in his vid, he only says how Brax doxxed his ex gf but doesn't explain the entire situation cuz he wants to save his own ass.
@@I.disagreegoose and tectone were roommates at the time and atsu harassed goose so much that his mental health went to shit which lead to the accidentally doxxing
THANK YOU. a lot of people seem to really forget the "innocent until proven guilty" bit. this is one man's account of things, and in that part where he talks about all the other content creators he doesn't even provide proof to back up his claims. there is no way to know if these are factual accounts or the ramblings of someone who really just needs to get offline and go to therapy, or something in between. regardless, this mess is unhinged, sad, and at the end of the day, could have been entirely avoided if these grown adults weren't acting like literal children talking behind each others' backs. edit: also so true about the friends thing. friends should hold you accountable for your actions. if they aren't, those are yes men.
THANK YOU FOR A DETAILED DRAMA REPORT. I was watching Tectone's video about this and I was confused about his beef with Atsu and that brox guy because it lacks context. But you explained the lore clearly, I appreciate that ^^ .
atsu went cancel culture on teccy's roommate over a teaser where he didnt like the chinese music/opera bits... miss the days where you can not like something and not be accused of being some sort of istaphobe.
the drama did start a while ago and its been a dozen videos on each side so Its hard to understand even if you only seen the recent one or seen half of them. This video barely touches on the incident that made the tecone vs astu genshin drama become brax vs atsu personal drama. This may be a long simple summary... to simplify it, brax was accused of a lot of things publicly by Atsu and he had to defend himself while speculating why Atsu had that view of him. Those speculations also force Atsu to try and defend himself from seeming like a bully. Brax was accused of purposely doxing saki and not apologizing (saki came out to defend him on twitter and on stream because she didnt like how that misunderstanding was being used), braxophone was accused of being creepy to two female cosplayer at a hoyo event (the two cosplayers defended brax on twitter and said atsu was the weird one), brax was accused of manipulating tectone to attack atsu (astu claimed it was a lie he made out of paranoia but also claimed this was true and not true on recent streams, its muddy here because there's no concrete proof) Brax also accused atsu of a few things for possible reason why astu is painting him as a villian publically. Braxophone asumed that Astu sabotaged brax's long term genshin contract that was revoked (this was speculation brax admitted he couldnt prove it with something concrete) Braxophone warning astu of a shady voice actor, he was told by another Voice actor to inform others (brax admitted it was a bad way to start a conversation and made brax look weird) Brax saying atsu kept talking about him in subtweets and Atsu spreading negative comments about him (Astu did admit to subtweeting bad things about brax on a live stream and tweets but denied trashing him behind the scenes which was later revealed by other parties aswell as these new screenshots that he was trashing brax behind the scenes) Atsu kept telling other people to avoid brax (no proof was shown but many content creators who were friends with atsu said that they got those warnings about brax and others came out that atsu told them to avoid other creators aswell) Most of these things were from the original docs by those two aswell as the original tweets they made about each other then. Many people may not know this and were probably confused why atsu was getting hate. Its because atsu started it with subtweeting brax when atsu was arguing with tectone then he got caught lying about the acusations he made about brax. This lead atsu to apoligize to brax which they agreed to delete everything. after a few months, now atsu released a new document avoiding most of the stuff from the original situation and focusing on the stuff braxophone admitted he couldnt prove which was the contract being sabotaged by atsu. This is After atsu claimed he had made amends with braxophone. many creators are just pissed off at atsu because he is blaming everyone else when he started the situation with brax with his tweets. Creators were also annoyed that atsu is trying to use the the things everyone admitted they couldnt prove or thing they already clarified to try and bring everyone else down instead of taking accountability for the things he was caught lying about. When everyone else like gachasmack, brax, tectone, mtashed already cleared up and admitted that astu being able to blacklist people cannot be proven nor is he at fault for thinking brax is weird for the va situation. Even astu was bringing up other situations like Zy0x's misunderstanding at a air bnb party and sekapoko past accusation of promoting third parties sites to get ingame currency cheaper, scaming kids (was accused by atsu in the past btw). This situation was disproven by seka a long time ago, but seka was getting really pissed because he was also getting sent clips of atsu using those third party sites atsu claimed seka was using and atsu was promoting them. atsu was still streaming this situation earlier trashing his old friends (zy0x said he isnt that close to atsu because they're online friends not irl friends and probably wouldnt consider him a friend anymore after atsu's accusations. dish & joshua didnt back him beacuse they believe astu wasnt in the right but many believe it could just be PR, tuonto although disliked brax didnt say anything because he was afriad his career would be effected) , tectone (atsu claims everything is tectones fault) , brax (atsu claims brax was doing the things atsu was caught and accused of doing while calling braxophone a clout chaser over and over), and gooseegg (because gooseegg tweeted he would like atsu to stop bringing up his name to trash him even after atsu claims to have matured and apologized to goose in their private conversation and now that its been a long time since goose no longer did content creation nor spoke about atsu.) Most content creator who was involved or called out by atsu said they're gonna move on from it and leave it at that after they had responded to the doc. The conclusion is the same, this shouldve been delt with behind the scenes instead of publicly, and nobody made amends, most chose to just leave it at that and ignore atsu after thier response instead of keeping this up. believing atsu isnt even in a right mind to even fully talk to. This is a simple summary.... and its long. pretty ironic to be called simple 💀 muujin is also making a video thats over an hour and a half long that covers everything from 2-3 years ago to now to clarify this confusing drama so he would probably have more information. (He announced in box2's chat)
@@8ettieP46eTectone even explained in a more recent video/stream that he wasn’t making fun of the Chinese singing, but the way Yunjin sang it. I too must admit that I have heard better Chinese singing from even american animated films
I forgot about this drama, this drama gives me a headache lmao it’s a total mess (never liked tectone and atsu) I stop watching big genshin cc bc of the dramas happening.
@@resdon4860 true, and like why couldn’t they talk about all of this in private? Instead of dragging genshin into this, like yeah they r connected/meet through genshin but why they had to talk about it in the genshin category instead of just chatting let genshin out of this lmao let gacha players gamble in peace XD.
@EeepyEepyCrow it would be better to settle it privately, however i think that isnt in the Picture the moment one person makes a tweet or public statement about someone else, because then people will want answers and the accused person will need to provide them along with proof to back it up
@@EeepyEepyCrow the one who started it is Atsu and he literally posted it online the moment the drama started, and he asked to resolve the drama privately after he has posted a documents accusing someone for millions of people to see which is a shit move.
Unpopular opinion ig but Brax did nothing wrong. Imagine meeting your fellow cc's, being excited and taking a single picture together, and then suddenly you become a doxxer in everyone's eyes cuz one of the cc's gf actually has a secret identity that no one, including her, told you about, and now it's somehow your responsibility to conceal it and your fault that it got out. Intent absolutely matters here.
what's even funnier is Saki the Vtuber even said it was an accident and forgave Brax. but Jake (tuonto) held on to that grudge even to this day. the doxxing issue should've been resolved alreadys since the prime victim Saki already wanted it to be under the rug and forgiveness was on board. But Jake nah ah he be wanting that shit known to all
16:16 - 16:28 was the biggest takeaway from all this b***s*** drama that has been unfolding since February. Not all dirty laundry should be for public display. As a team manager myself, the long-standing management mantra of "praise in public; criticize in private" applies here.
@@cherrykamino That vague assertion doesn’t answer my simple question. Granting that’s the case anyway, though unless it’s a matter of objective fact, who or what is the judge and arbiter to decide that?
@@itsaclisstony 1: Could you elaborate further on this question? I could answer it but I’m not too sure. 2: I don’t see how, literally, it isn’t asking for more haters or drama. Utilizing our ability to reason and conclude, the same question could be asked with the “praise in public” approach as an unclear portion of haters seemingly standing in the millions (I doubt a million folks read these notes. This generation should’ve been called the “Iaintreadinallat gen”.) could be motivated by envy, rage, delusional entitlement and the ridiculous reasons for the existence of haters and what could lead to their “invites” can go on. We could make another book the size of the Bible. You post yourself and your friend’s graduation on instagram for the memories and there’s a clown in the comments hating on you shouting “You don’t look like you deserve that diploma, you look beyond stupid!” while your caption is only congratulating the friend on his work well done. The “haters” when it comes to online activity will attract even if you’re preaching love. The same criticism and question could be thrown back towards any activity or post online where folks proudly utilize their anonymity to release it. That’s why I can imagine folks don’t typically ask themselves “Will this get me haters online?” When they’re this established and they decide to post anything. If you’re in this for more than a year, you’ll likely ask “What will my audience find fascinating?” But quick question, are you new to the internet? 3: Depends on the intent, motive, the content and how the friends themselves handle it. Not totally speaking literally on the last one, he didn’t ask for any drama. Within this, he seemed to have intended to tie loose ends with some creators he didn’t get much time with, he wished he could have and to be generous and unbiased, left heartfelt criticism towards those he dubbed as “friends.” but I can see a few arguments made for it being confrontational, he wasn’t specifically rude or disrespectful of anyone nor did he spill career and life shattering accusations. The friends are invited to take it however they want, like Dish owning up to him having some validity regarding her character that was implied but standing firm by the friendship and apology section.
It’s very hard to believe that Atsu, the common denominator in 20+ bridges being burnt, is not at fault for a single one of them. Somehow everything is everyone else’s fault. Also the way people on twitter are mad at some people for publicly defending themselves after Atsu publicly dragged them through the mud??? Baffling
zyox explained in his stream the “skeleton in the closet” part from his pov and he’s not actually involved in the “accident”, so yeah atsu was spewing some bs
6:10 I'm sayinggg, he kept mentioning THROUGHOUT the document that he "holds no ill will" towards any of the people involved but still keeps talking about them in a seemingly hostile way 😭
I found out about atsu because i keep seeing his name on Twitter pop up on my feed whenever there's drama. But after all this, i can't say i feel sorry for him. The way he worded his document was just manipulative and narcissistic. Obviously he doesn't want to take accountability for his words that hurt other people. That aside, i hope he takes time off the internet gets the help he needs.
This i dont even follow genshin creators, but I read this documentary. its just the guy acting like a victim for everything, and blaming every single person, even people talking about the topic. like asmongold. Sorry to say, but good thing his wife had an affair, who the hell can handle this type of guy? narccistic, and victim complex, is all I see. He doesn't give a shyt about everyone but himself, put everyone under the bus lmao cuz tectone and braxopone talked bad about him. This guy needs a psychologist 100%.
Regarding the "VTuber Dox"-incident. Gotta strongly disagree that Brax had any fault there. You can only work with the information you have and if nobody gives you the information to not post the picture online (something completely normal nowadays) then it's on the person who doesn't want that to happen. Just because she is a Vtuber (which is also a factor that was not known to Brax) doesn't mean she gets any extra rules that specifically only apply to her. Maybe she should think twice before making a group-picture like that if she is so afraid of her face being leaked on the internet, or at least give everyone included in the picture the information that this is important to her to stay "censored" when posting online. Don't put the blame on someone who had no possibility of acting different. Take accountability for your own lack of common sense.
@@Nomnamnomm Would be weird if the narrative had been flipped like that then. In fact, that would make the whole fiasco redudant. Can't say I believe that is the case. Also, I think the Vtuber would've clarified the drama herself in that case.
What seem to keep getting lost in the "Brax v Atsu" drama is that Brax was being isolated by other CCs but the main reason he was upset is that he had no idea why that is happening at all when he did not really do anything wrong. And when he started to look into it more, tldr, seems like Atsu was talking badly about Brax to his friends/other CCs (I think even Tectone was "warned" by Atsu about Brax) which led to him being outcasted by the community of CCs.
It will sound harsh, but it is also the truth. No one cares about Atsu’s alleged divorce and even his mental state. His personal life is personal, we don’t need to know about it nor do we care about it. His mental state is his responsibility, not ours. If he’s feeling a certain way, he needs to deal with it on his own, we are not responsible fir it and we don’t need to know about it unless it is relevant, and it’s not in this particular situation because issues like this are in the realm of “I need to step back and take care of myself”. Also Dish exposed her dms with Atsu where he admitted to being fine so this is just a pity party.
I agree, but saying we don't care is a lie (in general, not for this particular drama). Yeah, we don't care in the same way we would care about someone we know in real life, but a lot of people (me included) do care about lots of content creators or other online figures we've watched for a long time, and can feel really worried if their health isn't good, physical or mental, y'know?
@@aelrii6129 Oh, I agree 100%! I do care about Paikon, for example, and a lot of others, but not Atsu for sure. I said it would sound harsh because it has to be, I don't wish anything bad upon him whatsoever, but he needs to know it in order to change. I had a student once that used her ADHD every time to get away with not doing her work (she still wanted me to grade her essay after submitting it a week later without talking to me first and that's just one example), so I just stopped grading her. I told her that her mental health is her responsibility, its her education and she needs to put in the work. So after she failed her exam she quickly changed her view of the matter, came to me and we talked about what she can do to pass. She passed with 97 points and got an A+.
kinda ironic you talk about no one caring then you talk about some random story no one cares about but people do care about other people bad or good so its kinda insensitive to say "this person sucks and i dont care how they feel" you say that you dont want anything bad upon him but everything you say is just like "i dont like this person, he can unalive for all i care" like i dont like atsu but im not gonna go as far as dissing and hating on someone going though a bad time and speaking about it(publicly maybe not but still).
@@Ima_kat I think you misunderstand what I'm trying to say here, the story I told is an example of making people take accountability for their own mental health (and you clearly care if you decided to comment on that, so where's the irony?). THAT is what "i don't care" means, that only you can and should take care of yourself. Of course I care for Atsu's wellbeing, I'm not a robot, but he needs to take a step back and the only way to make him do that is to ignore him and his antics. If you give him attention and enable that behaviour he'll continue doing what he's been doing, so you have to be harsh and just not care.
@@borealwind "not caring is commenting on it frfr" but alr i get what your saying but also like the "alleged" divorce thing is also bad like even tectone admitted that atsu went though a divorce and like tectone practically hates atsu and even he admits to it also why would Nekkopii delete everything if she had nothing to hide? she would have just went online and said she didn't do it
Nah, Brax had zero blame in the Vtuber dox incident. He took a picture and was given a copy with no terms and conditions. The blame is solely on those who let him in and gave him the picture with no warning, and even then it was just an unfortunate oversight. Being upset at him specifically was unreasonable.
Did people who interacted with Atsu vouched for him in this drama? Because as much as people hate Tectone, his (Tectone's) friends who interacted with him for real are vouching for how good of a person he is, outside of his online persona. While Atsu...I have yet to find a friend who will vouch for how good a person he is.
I mean if he really was innocent and kind then people and his friends would have backed him up. Maybe bro was just toxic to people around like some highschool girl sh
Tuonto has made a video about the drama and how he’s scared to respond to it for fear of his livelihood (go to his channel if you wanna see it), don’t know about dish but I do know she’s not a very confrontational person like Tuonto, I have no clue for anyone else
7:06 I had the exact same sentiment. Why did he need to feel he had to say that to the group unless it's to talk behind someone's back and implying that the group shouldn't fk with Brax bc he doesn't. It's such a manipulative move.
In my experience when I’ve dealt with ✨DRAMA✨ I would vent to my friends about it. Now granted this was literally high school and it was never about people we were friends with, but my circle knew who they were and I would explain my frustration. They would give input, I would calm down a bit and then we’d move on. I get how this situation is VERY different since it’s a public and financial circumstance, but to me I can’t blame the guy for venting to his friends. In the document Atsu posted he said he dmed Brax about the situation and was told they were “good” and yet he was still getting complaints from Hoyo. Idk everyone sucks in this.
Ratsueven blamed the people he threw under the bus for his divorce 🤣 he said something along the lines of "if this didn't happen, I would still be happily married." The dude is a textbook narcissist. He blames everyone else but himself. I bet Nekkopii has a really good explanation about this "cheating", given how Ratsu is so good at manipulating situations to make it look like he's the victim.
After watchng this video paikon is quite literally very intellectually capable yet he doesn't ever talk about drama. I have so much respect for you for this level of maturity.
the problem with him claiming he attempted self delete... is that anyone can claim that... there is no proof for this... i have seen so many manipulative CC on YT that has claimed this but in actual fact they are just saying it to gain more clout....
@@FreakyDudeEx you're jaded, but you're not wrong. i feel the same way about his opening statement. his wife's cheating has got nothing to do with the main issue, but the fact that he mentioned it and then saying shortly after that he doesn't want people to come at nekopii, that to me is a jerk move. if you don't want people to swarm your ex-wife, why mention her? he's hiding behind thoughts of suicide to stop people from criticizing his poor behavior.
im not trying to be a woke nerd and idk if its even on purpose or not but i jst wanna say that- (yap warning btw) calling an asian person (specifically japanese btw look it up) a "rat" is very disrespectful and racist that it can even be considered a slur by some. so again idk if u meant the "ratsu" comment or if its jst a typo and i def know it wasn't your intention in the first place but yeah i jst wanted to put my two cents in from what knowledge i have
The last resort that atsu did was probably pent up on his side. Imagine having your wife cheating while you're in a position where people sht talking you. Man that sucks real bad.
the part where he said that friends are there to hold you accountable and not hype you up for everything (during dish's segment) is so real, like it sucks in the moment when they don't back you up but then you can grow from the situation and not do the same next time. i feel really bad for everyone in the situation, especially people who got dragged into the drama (such as minsleif) cause most of them didn't do anything wrong from what i know
Guys, Atsu being manipulative goes way back during Zhongli drama. Which like what, 3 years ago? Maybe more? How can't ppl figure it out that he is manipulative person? How he kept agitate everyone about the situation already enough to get a gist of what kind of person he was (or is, considering we knows how it's turns out).
For the picture dox incident, how was he supposed to know? Though i understand you should want to ask people if you can post pics of them to social media. I think theyre going a little too hard on him, and its not like he kept it up after he was told. I think if i was a vtuber and people i dont know well will have pics of me, i would make a point to make sure they know not to post it.
From my understanding the not posting stuff without permission is industry standard. It's a mix between the privacy required to be a CC and the emergence of Vtubers. No one explained it to him because it was probably accepted as "common sense". An oversight on the part of the organizators yeah, but that doesn't really frees brax from fault, whether he intende it or not
@@insertgenerichannelname the problem at the time everybody posted the same pic not like a special pic for himself or something they should have been more careful instead of putting others in hell
@@insertgenerichannelname i do not remember who was in the photo there was alot of people that may or maynot have a certain realtionship with tounto but take in mind the timing of the post and if they informed him and he still did post it they wouldn't shut up
"Friends are not there to defend your bad decisions. Friends are there to call out your bullshyt so you don't fcking spiral down further, and further. They are not there to fcking just support you no matter what you say, alright? That's called the paid actor" Such a wise words 😢❤
You forgot to mention that because of Atsu, Goose attempted to end himself, and also Atsu intentionally forced Tectone to go public about him getting SA'd. Vile snake.
@thahirshibu5042 I can't not believe that I'm in a world where if someone loses a bestfriend cuz of that one guy and that guy loses has wife, carrer, reputation, and passion then it's karma. Tech fans are crazy frfr.
@@gh05ti33 so are we ignoring the self deletion attempts atsu and his fans drove goose to or are they happy accidents??? I'm not saying that he deserved what he got, just that karma was finally biting him for his years of harassing and targeting 2 people
I honestly think that Brax was not really at fault here because, even tho Jake (Tuonto)'s girlfriend was technically face revealed, no one actually told Brax that she was a Vtuber, and most people wouldn't even know that she's a vtuber if she doesn't show her face on stream. The only reason why people found out was because Jake overreacted, and either the gf or Jake could've just asked Brax to take down the photo and if anyone asked, he could've just said that one of the people didn't want the photo to be posted. While Brax did accidentally reveal that Jake's ex is a vtuber, it was an honest mistake that came from a lack of prior knowledge, and Jake's saying that Brax doxxed his girlfriend, makes it seem like it was intentional, when it was just a mistake that everyone could've played cool if they hadn't overreacted.
There seems to be a little bit of misinformation with how he explains Braxophone’s situation. His first time meeting Atsu, he did say hi. He was awkward somewhat due to not interacting with people in 2020-2021. Second time, he approached Atsu passing along a message he was told by another VA about another VA being creepy. The document was made by Braxophone because Atsu was making an unfounded accusation of him of manipulating Tectone because Braxophone had a grudge against Atsu.
Good video man The one thing I would never understand is the doxing thing, it wasn’t intentional and if you don’t want your picture on the internet then don’t take pictures especially with content creators. Tuonto could have said something to brax to let him know not to post it or edit her out, that was totally his negligence. Then keeping a grudge for that is just..
As a long time Teccy viewer (Arknights Days), it goes WAY deeper than how you threw it out there as far as the origins of Baldie's, and Ratsu's beef. It's all been explained thoroughly by Tectone if anyone is curious. I believe in looking at both sides, and doing your best to be objective. So I would also recommend looking up Atsu's side of things as well to form your own opinion. Back to being biased though. If you have above room temperature IQ, won't take you long to connect the dots.
As a total bystander @itspaikon did justice in clearing out the wrong views one would get reading that shit its almost like atsu had a bad day and wanted the same for all but as a viewer if my streamer is talking to me having fun with us and is feeling the good vibes we enjoy the streams the best their personal life is something we shouldn't question just like they dont ask us of our lives so just the fear of being disliked by your viewers can put fully grown adults into such stress that they return to grade schoolers Reality is a seriously Funny joke
@@pochita-dvl Just search on RUclips, he literally did a stream about it on twitch then uploaded it on RUclips, he announced he was 53 y/o two years ago
mujin made a rly good video abt this (its literally several hours long) covering everything in detail. tbh these men just need to be in therapy and not feel like they have to explain themselves. both parties felt they were forced to admit really personal and horrible things from their past. i just hope atsu tectone and brax are safe and will be in a better place mentally in the future
I haven't consumed genshin media and streamers for like a year, but when I heard of the drama going on I immediately wanted to know if was going on 😭 I have watched all these creators in the past so I know the names mentioned in the document atsu wrote but I was completely lost. Thanks for making this video I understand a lot better now ig 😭😭
NOT Atsu having a whole "yes-men" complaint towards Tectone, yet complaining when his friends are not "yes-men". He was really projecting with that one.
Atsu absolutely brought some of this on himself, but I gotta say Brax seems like a liar. He made claims with no proof and people ate it up. So, even though I feel some of this is karma for what happened with Goose he also has to deal with his marriage falling apart, his lack of trust in his friends, and all these bizarre allegations Brax made. There's no way Atsu is okay mentally. So I wish him well, but dude has got to learn how to take accountability better. Writing 30 page documents is a waste of time when you can't even apologize properly. Plus he doesn't know when to keep things private. Not one thing in that doc needed to be public.
That was a bit too much but I think when he was backed into a corner I guess all the defense mechanisms immediately acted so I guess thats why he was able to make those statements as well as basically implode himself
Brax already addressed and clarified about the contracts, he said he did get a contract, but just one time gigs from hoyo and not a permanent one like the ones Atsu's clique has. Atsu made it seem like Brax got a contract and that he lied about it, but purposely left out some of the important context. Also, I mean can anyone blame Brax? He felt like he was being purposely left out (which they actually did), and not given any opportunities to grow his brand due to some individual's influence in the hoyo cc space.
@@ayemjake that is my main issue with Brax is that he feels entitled to befriend these content creators to socially climb Like atsu is also to blame for how this all spiraled and all the friends he hurt But brax literally was hurt someone didn't wanna befriend him so badly And I am not saying social climbing is bad but bro if they don't want to include you then move the f on And unless he shows prove that hoyo blacklisted him because of atsu then it is all bullshit and that whole argument is him being bitter about not being included in their friend group
@@amvbro7033 "But brax literally was hurt someone didn't wanna befriend him so badly." Atsu was successful in making you believe this was the root of the problem. Even Dish apologized personally to Brax because she was peer pressured by Atsu, that to me is proof that Atsu used his influence to exclude people.
CCs should stop talking about stuff like this publically. But anyways tldr Tectone is a leech and Atsu is a rat and brax is not as innocent as we thought.
Tbh, that doc is a 30+ page explanation for why Atsu’s marriage failed. Cheating, if she did, isn’t right but if her husband can’t conduct his relationships like an adult I suspect she has been miserable for a long time and I’m glad she’s getting out of there
I'd admit that atsu is bad in terms of communication but cheating is never excusable. Ever. If you fall out of love, say it to the person's face, get a divorce and go on with your life. Don't add oil to the fire and cheat.
Wow these replies. These should sound good but idk. When tecone's wife cheated on him and he divorced her, people just said "this is why your wife left you" type shid. 😶
I don't condone cheating btw- you SHOULD talk to your partner. You SHOULD be able to. But I CAN see how someone can feel trapped and unable to voice their needs if they're married to someone who thinks and acts like Atsu seems to based on that doc. It's extremely gaslight-y
This drama was so messed up that Genshin should give us some apologems. Nah, jk. Genshin just don't care. Tbh, I don't even watch all the people involved in this drama. Sometimes I saw their accounts on my X timeline, but I already told X that I didn't interest on those accounts. Lol, they're just talking too much, like seriously. All the nonsense unrelated to the game itself. Since I saw their name trending, I was like, huh what happened? Did Genshin just sue them or something? Lol, oh, btw, thanks for the explanation. I would rather watch Ashikai, or Minsleif, or roozevelt, IslandXD, Chill with Aster, SiliconOneFour, or any other theory crafters.
to the question "how can you remember every single detail of an experience whether if its very bad or very good", my answer is depression everyone experiences depression differently, it is true depression makes people forget but it also curses people with memories atsu said he had two failed attempts, as when someone wanna die to the extent of trying two times, im sure he has a lot of time to think about the good and the bad which caused him to want to die because he has lost it all and the bad experiences still haunts him, he cant really do anything physically about it anymore, forgiving and forgetting still hurts because noone would believe as what is done has been done. my personal opinion is that i pity atsu, content creating is really not a place for him as its obvious he has mental issues, i feel him ngl also nekkopii sucks for cheating, who cares if its atsu hes done bad thing blah blah blah, cheating is never okay, is she would she couldve asked for divorce to find another instead of betraying someones trust for 10 years
This is what happens when paikon is resinless
This is what happens when genshin content creators are bored lol
I literally checked his resin towards the end to realize he's at 5/200 when I red this comment lol
😂😂😂😂
LMAO 😭
😂 hahahaha
Zy0x’s unserious ass “skeletons” still cracks me up cause why did he word it like he did a heinous crime or sumn when all he did was invite a friend who invited their friends who kinda ruined a party for being drunk like it’s not even his fault 😂
And it was supposedly over walking into a fucking bedroom while drunk😭
is this seriously what this shit was about atsu fr just pisses me off rn there was NO NEED for that
What skeleton? It was just a crumb of info that the scammer used YEARS later because he's pretty unstable right now
he made it sound like zyox k1lled someone and hid it in a closet 😮💨
He's rat.. rat is always rat
paikon sounds like someone who could be a crime documenter
Can you imagine him and the girl from Rotten Mango in the same room covering a story together? 😂
@@Akeyins Her name is Stephanie by the way, but gosh the imagery-
@@Lychiiee thank you! I couldn't remember her name for the life of me for some reason
Seeing paikon talk about drama is so strange to me i clicked immediately 💀
FRFR I was like this is PAIKON??
I've been intentionally avoiding it due to all the potentially biased view points but you what fk it. I prefer only checking this stuff out after things have cooled down
Me too lol, but actually i just wanted to watch a neutral party on this thing. I know everyone else will be biased so I haven’t watched anyone
He did this a lot on his second channel
Same
I never expected a day where you would talk about drama💀💀
he does a lot on his 2nd channel- imma be honest, if there was some genshin drama going around id go to him for more info lol
@@rikimura_rishihim and Mujin for me
Its just resinless behavior lol.
This the true endgame bro he gotta cover it to get primogems
the MOMENT you hear the name "Tectone", you know for a FACT it's gonna be some wild shit
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I mean, this had nothing to do with him tho....
Atsu threw everyone under the bus and acted like he can walk it off.
@@sejama6625 His was mentioned in that document like 30+ times, its kinda had something to do with him
@@MrSquishy0 After reading the doc, it honestly felt like Atsu blaming Tectone for a lot of his misfortunes - sure Tec might farm drama for monetary gain. But he would not go through with underhanded methods like Atsu.
Tectone is loud and annoying but that also means he doesn’t really do sneaky stuff like Ratsu does. He’s openly toxic but not driving people to near suicide like the rat did.
Soo.. just a bunch of grown ass adults acting like it's high school. Got it
Edit: You ppl in the replies need to chill lol
basically yh. a lot of betraying, backstabbing, spreading rumors and leaking chat messages. if that isnt high school coded idk what is
Tectone likes highschool girls and under so it's not surprising he wants to try so hard to act like a highschooler
Edit: this is a joke don't start crying, it's not twitter
@@Synphss its depressing because despite what youve said hes the one more actively covering and making sense of the whole situation, getting evidence and bringing up many good points. the community right now is in a shit place and if your linking it simply to tectone then thats just too one sided
@@visiblenarcissist3385 It's a joke get a grip on reality visiblenarcissist3385
The community isn't in this stage thanks only to tectone but we need to be real right now, he's literally don't act like an adult, he may be right and everything but his way of doing think is immature. It's okay to be right and everything but thats not a good reason to ignore all his actions and his way of acting and doing things.
For real, he didn’t have to tell the internet about his domestic situation. It’s literally not our business.
Manipulative guilt tripping imo
Yeah he could have said i been going through something in my private life or something like that
manipulative ahhh moves
Nahhh he gotta get some sympathy from his 2 fans that care
like he said it ended in friendship but proceded to ruin her reputation in front o all the internet
One thing that I don't like about this is that people call this whole situation "Genshin Impact drama". This is some people's drama that happen to be genshin streamers/youtubers...
True actually
Same lol 😂😂
The game literally has nothing to do with it
Were u guys even listening to the video
@@aimanu3433 Did you even look at the title "How the saddest GENSHIN IMPACT DRAMA ended" ???
True genshin has barely anything to do it
one thing I've learned from this video is that there's 2 types of genshin lore, actual ingame lore and content creator drama lore
Nah bro really 💀
The most bizarre aspect of this is Enviosity. Bro randomly got involved, got cooked, and now has comment sections filled with the word mintpicker. How does this happen
how did he get involved? I'have not been into all this drama but i havent seen his name mentioned once anywhere even tho i know he was good friends with other genshin cc
TL DR : envi is a drama queen
In a nutshell , tectone starting streaming at the same time enviosity does and then tectone calling envi minkpicker because he was f2p , all of these things caused envi "ptsd".
Envi cried for like half hour on stream instead of ending sooner as soon as he started melting down , and the fact is , his crying sounded very fake and any personal in their right mind would stop stream if they are having a melt down@@kiminamori8581
@@kiminamori8581he randomly started making bs about him getting ptsd from tectone out of nowhere and basically has no proof
His ptsd is basically 'tectone said i pick mint and im stressed abt getting the character i want'
He tried bringing down tectone by showing a vid where he argued with his exwife which is rly personal and just sht of enviosity 2 do
Now we know the context between the arguing and tectones exwife was actually cheating on him and tectone was trying to keep his cool which didnt help our mint picker pal
Tdlr, he got involved in a drama he doesnt need to b a part it, made some random bs ptsd excuse to sht on tectone and used very personal stuff to dunk on tectone
@@kiminamori8581 from what i understand, he inserted himself into it by making twitter posts trying to call out tectone during the drama, going so far as to use a clip that showed tectone being mad at his then wife and calling him a horrible person. (later the context of the clip was revealed to be that tectone had just caught his wife cheating and that's why he was mad)
@@legendarydonut9247 god damn
It’s just sad to see tbh, the docs basically is like Atsu wanting to pull everyone down with him.
it is what he wants to lol, he is the evil one
The little rat said he would quit after that doc bomb but he's still on X defending himself and shifting on his ex group of friends
crab mentality ahh
I don't think it was his first intention(I dont think atsu should have name dropped so many people and it should have been settled privately but still), he just wanted to back up some of his claims with evidence as most people wont belive something without evidence(as paikon even says at the end) and also prob clear some things up but i think it just backfired
honestly his doc was a huge nothingburger, it definitely could've been narrowed down to maybe 3-5 pages. There's also no reason to mention like 50 other cc and rant about them
I’m sorry the main thing I got from this is he has a FULLTIME 9-5 JOB on TOP of streaming and making peak content??? This man is built different how do you do it
Right?!
I skimmed through the document, and my doubts about this was touched upon in this video. The document is like everyone is wrong I'm the victim while name-dropping a ton of ccs, which makes it very hard to believe.
Look, I feel bad that Atsu is going through a hard time, but this felt like a "I'm going down so I'll take everyone else down with me" while farming for sympathy on Twitter. Doesn't feel honest at all. Tbh it does feel like it's a bunch of kids fighting instead of grown ass adults
For me, this is the first time I've seen paikon talk about genshin drama, it's true that anything in this world can happen 💀
The Goose situation is pretty worse since Atsu would shit on him and then his community continued to harass Goose until he kept attempting self deletion and like accidentally doxxed Teccy cuz he wasn't in the right state of mind, it just kept getting so bad and Atsu NEVER apologized or took accountability nor cared about Goose or Tectone. He made the Zyox situation seem like SA when it wasn't, Tuonto was right to be mad but Saki said it was an accident so it doesn't even matter. But Jake was still mad even tho nobody told Brax ANYTHING and he deleted the post, apologized and never posted it again but Jake purposely doesn't say that in his vid, he only says how Brax doxxed his ex gf but doesn't explain the entire situation cuz he wants to save his own ass.
EXACTLY! there were people who were SO MAD that Tuonto only dropped "doxxed my girlfriend" and everyone just took it at face value!
How'd he accidentally doxx Tectone? Genuine question
@@I.disagreegoose and tectone were roommates at the time and atsu harassed goose so much that his mental health went to shit which lead to the accidentally doxxing
@@mit5252 No I meant, specifically how did it lead to him to accidentally doxxing Tectone/himself
@@I.disagree Goose accidentally showed their address on stream from like a package he had in his room
THANK YOU. a lot of people seem to really forget the "innocent until proven guilty" bit. this is one man's account of things, and in that part where he talks about all the other content creators he doesn't even provide proof to back up his claims. there is no way to know if these are factual accounts or the ramblings of someone who really just needs to get offline and go to therapy, or something in between. regardless, this mess is unhinged, sad, and at the end of the day, could have been entirely avoided if these grown adults weren't acting like literal children talking behind each others' backs. edit: also so true about the friends thing. friends should hold you accountable for your actions. if they aren't, those are yes men.
Why is he talking about Drama?
Brother, look at the 0/200 resin at the beginning of the video.
THANK YOU FOR A DETAILED DRAMA REPORT. I was watching Tectone's video about this and I was confused about his beef with Atsu and that brox guy because it lacks context. But you explained the lore clearly, I appreciate that ^^ .
atsu went cancel culture on teccy's roommate over a teaser where he didnt like the chinese music/opera bits... miss the days where you can not like something and not be accused of being some sort of istaphobe.
the drama did start a while ago and its been a dozen videos on each side so Its hard to understand even if you only seen the recent one or seen half of them.
This video barely touches on the incident that made the tecone vs astu genshin drama become brax vs atsu personal drama.
This may be a long simple summary...
to simplify it, brax was accused of a lot of things publicly by Atsu and he had to defend himself while speculating why Atsu had that view of him. Those speculations also force Atsu to try and defend himself from seeming like a bully.
Brax was accused of purposely doxing saki and not apologizing (saki came out to defend him on twitter and on stream because she didnt like how that misunderstanding was being used), braxophone was accused of being creepy to two female cosplayer at a hoyo event (the two cosplayers defended brax on twitter and said atsu was the weird one), brax was accused of manipulating tectone to attack atsu (astu claimed it was a lie he made out of paranoia but also claimed this was true and not true on recent streams, its muddy here because there's no concrete proof)
Brax also accused atsu of a few things for possible reason why astu is painting him as a villian publically.
Braxophone asumed that Astu sabotaged brax's long term genshin contract that was revoked (this was speculation brax admitted he couldnt prove it with something concrete)
Braxophone warning astu of a shady voice actor, he was told by another Voice actor to inform others (brax admitted it was a bad way to start a conversation and made brax look weird)
Brax saying atsu kept talking about him in subtweets and Atsu spreading negative comments about him
(Astu did admit to subtweeting bad things about brax on a live stream and tweets but denied trashing him behind the scenes which was later revealed by other parties aswell as these new screenshots that he was trashing brax behind the scenes)
Atsu kept telling other people to avoid brax (no proof was shown but many content creators who were friends with atsu said that they got those warnings about brax and others came out that atsu told them to avoid other creators aswell)
Most of these things were from the original docs by those two aswell as the original tweets they made about each other then. Many people may not know this and were probably confused why atsu was getting hate. Its because atsu started it with subtweeting brax when atsu was arguing with tectone then he got caught lying about the acusations he made about brax. This lead atsu to apoligize to brax which they agreed to delete everything.
after a few months, now atsu released a new document avoiding most of the stuff from the original situation and focusing on the stuff braxophone admitted he couldnt prove which was the contract being sabotaged by atsu. This is After atsu claimed he had made amends with braxophone.
many creators are just pissed off at atsu because he is blaming everyone else when he started the situation with brax with his tweets. Creators were also annoyed that atsu is trying to use the the things everyone admitted they couldnt prove or thing they already clarified to try and bring everyone else down instead of taking accountability for the things he was caught lying about. When everyone else like gachasmack, brax, tectone, mtashed already cleared up and admitted that astu being able to blacklist people cannot be proven nor is he at fault for thinking brax is weird for the va situation. Even astu was bringing up other situations like Zy0x's misunderstanding at a air bnb party and sekapoko past accusation of promoting third parties sites to get ingame currency cheaper, scaming kids (was accused by atsu in the past btw). This situation was disproven by seka a long time ago, but seka was getting really pissed because he was also getting sent clips of atsu using those third party sites atsu claimed seka was using and atsu was promoting them.
atsu was still streaming this situation earlier trashing his old friends (zy0x said he isnt that close to atsu because they're online friends not irl friends and probably wouldnt consider him a friend anymore after atsu's accusations. dish & joshua didnt back him beacuse they believe astu wasnt in the right but many believe it could just be PR, tuonto although disliked brax didnt say anything because he was afriad his career would be effected) , tectone (atsu claims everything is tectones fault) , brax (atsu claims brax was doing the things atsu was caught and accused of doing while calling braxophone a clout chaser over and over), and gooseegg (because gooseegg tweeted he would like atsu to stop bringing up his name to trash him even after atsu claims to have matured and apologized to goose in their private conversation and now that its been a long time since goose no longer did content creation nor spoke about atsu.) Most content creator who was involved or called out by atsu said they're gonna move on from it and leave it at that after they had responded to the doc.
The conclusion is the same, this shouldve been delt with behind the scenes instead of publicly, and nobody made amends, most chose to just leave it at that and ignore atsu after thier response instead of keeping this up. believing atsu isnt even in a right mind to even fully talk to.
This is a simple summary.... and its long. pretty ironic to be called simple 💀
muujin is also making a video thats over an hour and a half long that covers everything from 2-3 years ago to now to clarify this confusing drama so he would probably have more information. (He announced in box2's chat)
@@8ettieP46eTectone even explained in a more recent video/stream that he wasn’t making fun of the Chinese singing, but the way Yunjin sang it. I too must admit that I have heard better Chinese singing from even american animated films
I forgot about this drama, this drama gives me a headache lmao it’s a total mess (never liked tectone and atsu) I stop watching big genshin cc bc of the dramas happening.
Same, nothing but resentment towards both parties after watching/reading about this.
@@resdon4860 true, and like why couldn’t they talk about all of this in private? Instead of dragging genshin into this, like yeah they r connected/meet through genshin but why they had to talk about it in the genshin category instead of just chatting let genshin out of this lmao let gacha players gamble in peace XD.
@EeepyEepyCrow it would be better to settle it privately, however i think that isnt in the Picture the moment one person makes a tweet or public statement about someone else, because then people will want answers and the accused person will need to provide them along with proof to back it up
Same I don’t like most of the really big content creators
I used to look at some of their vids for time to time but this whole drama is just draining
@@EeepyEepyCrow the one who started it is Atsu and he literally posted it online the moment the drama started, and he asked to resolve the drama privately after he has posted a documents accusing someone for millions of people to see which is a shit move.
Unpopular opinion ig but Brax did nothing wrong. Imagine meeting your fellow cc's, being excited and taking a single picture together, and then suddenly you become a doxxer in everyone's eyes cuz one of the cc's gf actually has a secret identity that no one, including her, told you about, and now it's somehow your responsibility to conceal it and your fault that it got out. Intent absolutely matters here.
what's even funnier is Saki the Vtuber even said it was an accident and forgave Brax. but Jake (tuonto) held on to that grudge even to this day. the doxxing issue should've been resolved alreadys since the prime victim Saki already wanted it to be under the rug and forgiveness was on board. But Jake nah ah he be wanting that shit known to all
"Brax didnothing wrong" is NOT an unpopular opinion.
How brain dead do you have to be to honestly say that... Brax had no proof Atsu blacklisted him lmao
Nah, no one is completely without fault here, Brax also made a bunch of bullshit assumptions without proof.
@@KA-qo3lwbut he did get blacklisted though!
the people who wrote "first" to this needs help
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16:16 - 16:28 was the biggest takeaway from all this b***s*** drama that has been unfolding since February.
Not all dirty laundry should be for public display. As a team manager myself, the long-standing management mantra of "praise in public; criticize in private" applies here.
Why shouldn’t it be for public display?🤨🤔
@@Artryom maybe because some things are better off not everyone's business
@@cherrykamino That vague assertion doesn’t answer my simple question. Granting that’s the case anyway, though unless it’s a matter of objective fact, who or what is the judge and arbiter to decide that?
@@Artryom why would you include your friends drama?? With millions of people online, wouldn't that be asking for more haters???😅😅😅 And more drama??😅😅
@@itsaclisstony 1: Could you elaborate further on this question? I could answer it but I’m not too sure.
2: I don’t see how, literally, it isn’t asking for more haters or drama. Utilizing our ability to reason and conclude, the same question could be asked with the “praise in public” approach as an unclear portion of haters seemingly standing in the millions (I doubt a million folks read these notes. This generation should’ve been called the “Iaintreadinallat gen”.) could be motivated by envy, rage, delusional entitlement and the ridiculous reasons for the existence of haters and what could lead to their “invites” can go on. We could make another book the size of the Bible. You post yourself and your friend’s graduation on instagram for the memories and there’s a clown in the comments hating on you shouting “You don’t look like you deserve that diploma, you look beyond stupid!” while your caption is only congratulating the friend on his work well done. The “haters” when it comes to online activity will attract even if you’re preaching love. The same criticism and question could be thrown back towards any activity or post online where folks proudly utilize their anonymity to release it. That’s why I can imagine folks don’t typically ask themselves “Will this get me haters online?” When they’re this established and they decide to post anything. If you’re in this for more than a year, you’ll likely ask “What will my audience find fascinating?” But quick question, are you new to the internet?
3: Depends on the intent, motive, the content and how the friends themselves handle it. Not totally speaking literally on the last one, he didn’t ask for any drama. Within this, he seemed to have intended to tie loose ends with some creators he didn’t get much time with, he wished he could have and to be generous and unbiased, left heartfelt criticism towards those he dubbed as “friends.” but I can see a few arguments made for it being confrontational, he wasn’t specifically rude or disrespectful of anyone nor did he spill career and life shattering accusations. The friends are invited to take it however they want, like Dish owning up to him having some validity regarding her character that was implied but standing firm by the friendship and apology section.
It’s very hard to believe that Atsu, the common denominator in 20+ bridges being burnt, is not at fault for a single one of them. Somehow everything is everyone else’s fault. Also the way people on twitter are mad at some people for publicly defending themselves after Atsu publicly dragged them through the mud??? Baffling
zyox explained in his stream the “skeleton in the closet” part from his pov and he’s not actually involved in the “accident”, so yeah atsu was spewing some bs
The thumbnail makes it look like Atsu divorced from Teccy and Brax 😭
That's the hope for the future just don't let them interact with each other lol
6:10 I'm sayinggg, he kept mentioning THROUGHOUT the document that he "holds no ill will" towards any of the people involved but still keeps talking about them in a seemingly hostile way 😭
I found out about atsu because i keep seeing his name on Twitter pop up on my feed whenever there's drama. But after all this, i can't say i feel sorry for him. The way he worded his document was just manipulative and narcissistic. Obviously he doesn't want to take accountability for his words that hurt other people. That aside, i hope he takes time off the internet gets the help he needs.
This i dont even follow genshin creators, but I read this documentary. its just the guy acting like a victim for everything, and blaming every single person, even people talking about the topic. like asmongold. Sorry to say, but good thing his wife had an affair, who the hell can handle this type of guy? narccistic, and victim complex, is all I see. He doesn't give a shyt about everyone but himself, put everyone under the bus lmao cuz tectone and braxopone talked bad about him. This guy needs a psychologist 100%.
Regarding the "VTuber Dox"-incident. Gotta strongly disagree that Brax had any fault there.
You can only work with the information you have and if nobody gives you the information to not post the picture online (something completely normal nowadays) then it's on the person who doesn't want that to happen. Just because she is a Vtuber (which is also a factor that was not known to Brax) doesn't mean she gets any extra rules that specifically only apply to her. Maybe she should think twice before making a group-picture like that if she is so afraid of her face being leaked on the internet, or at least give everyone included in the picture the information that this is important to her to stay "censored" when posting online. Don't put the blame on someone who had no possibility of acting different.
Take accountability for your own lack of common sense.
actually she was more than cool with with it and the issues were solved but the other people in the group didn't let it go!
@@Nomnamnomm Would be weird if the narrative had been flipped like that then. In fact, that would make the whole fiasco redudant.
Can't say I believe that is the case. Also, I think the Vtuber would've clarified the drama herself in that case.
i decimated the entire genshin impact cc community with 4 dramas
Bro pulled an oompaville and I’m here just enjoying it. You should do more of these types of videos
He does on his second channel. Also surprised to see viewer overlap here
@@kri1ndawn440 what's his second channel?
@@magicshop8525 "Paikon out of context"
What seem to keep getting lost in the "Brax v Atsu" drama is that Brax was being isolated by other CCs but the main reason he was upset is that he had no idea why that is happening at all when he did not really do anything wrong.
And when he started to look into it more, tldr, seems like Atsu was talking badly about Brax to his friends/other CCs (I think even Tectone was "warned" by Atsu about Brax) which led to him being outcasted by the community of CCs.
these highschoolers forget that they are playing with someone's livelihood !
It will sound harsh, but it is also the truth. No one cares about Atsu’s alleged divorce and even his mental state. His personal life is personal, we don’t need to know about it nor do we care about it. His mental state is his responsibility, not ours. If he’s feeling a certain way, he needs to deal with it on his own, we are not responsible fir it and we don’t need to know about it unless it is relevant, and it’s not in this particular situation because issues like this are in the realm of “I need to step back and take care of myself”. Also Dish exposed her dms with Atsu where he admitted to being fine so this is just a pity party.
I agree, but saying we don't care is a lie (in general, not for this particular drama). Yeah, we don't care in the same way we would care about someone we know in real life, but a lot of people (me included) do care about lots of content creators or other online figures we've watched for a long time, and can feel really worried if their health isn't good, physical or mental, y'know?
@@aelrii6129 Oh, I agree 100%! I do care about Paikon, for example, and a lot of others, but not Atsu for sure. I said it would sound harsh because it has to be, I don't wish anything bad upon him whatsoever, but he needs to know it in order to change.
I had a student once that used her ADHD every time to get away with not doing her work (she still wanted me to grade her essay after submitting it a week later without talking to me first and that's just one example), so I just stopped grading her. I told her that her mental health is her responsibility, its her education and she needs to put in the work. So after she failed her exam she quickly changed her view of the matter, came to me and we talked about what she can do to pass. She passed with 97 points and got an A+.
kinda ironic you talk about no one caring then you talk about some random story no one cares about but people do care about other people bad or good so its kinda insensitive to say "this person sucks and i dont care how they feel" you say that you dont want anything bad upon him but everything you say is just like "i dont like this person, he can unalive for all i care" like i dont like atsu but im not gonna go as far as dissing and hating on someone going though a bad time and speaking about it(publicly maybe not but still).
@@Ima_kat I think you misunderstand what I'm trying to say here, the story I told is an example of making people take accountability for their own mental health (and you clearly care if you decided to comment on that, so where's the irony?). THAT is what "i don't care" means, that only you can and should take care of yourself. Of course I care for Atsu's wellbeing, I'm not a robot, but he needs to take a step back and the only way to make him do that is to ignore him and his antics. If you give him attention and enable that behaviour he'll continue doing what he's been doing, so you have to be harsh and just not care.
@@borealwind "not caring is commenting on it frfr" but alr i get what your saying but also like the "alleged" divorce thing is also bad like even tectone admitted that atsu went though a divorce and like tectone practically hates atsu and even he admits to it also why would Nekkopii delete everything if she had nothing to hide? she would have just went online and said she didn't do it
Nah, Brax had zero blame in the Vtuber dox incident. He took a picture and was given a copy with no terms and conditions. The blame is solely on those who let him in and gave him the picture with no warning, and even then it was just an unfortunate oversight. Being upset at him specifically was unreasonable.
agreed, and to be fair, Brax didn't even know that she's a Vtuber.
Brax did say in his doc that he asked Saki who she was, and she told him she was no one.
Paikon became Matpat
Thank goodness for that honestly 😭
Paikon is the last person I expected to talk about this, which is why I clicked so fast😭
Did people who interacted with Atsu vouched for him in this drama? Because as much as people hate Tectone, his (Tectone's) friends who interacted with him for real are vouching for how good of a person he is, outside of his online persona. While Atsu...I have yet to find a friend who will vouch for how good a person he is.
I mean if he really was innocent and kind then people and his friends would have backed him up. Maybe bro was just toxic to people around like some highschool girl sh
Tuonto has made a video about the drama and how he’s scared to respond to it for fear of his livelihood (go to his channel if you wanna see it), don’t know about dish but I do know she’s not a very confrontational person like Tuonto, I have no clue for anyone else
@@phloats.whats the video called? I keep hearing everyone talk about it but I cant find it on Tuontos channel😭
@@alschmeeto ah shit I think he unlisted it
"Online persona", good Real life "U mean hypocrite?"
7:06 I had the exact same sentiment. Why did he need to feel he had to say that to the group unless it's to talk behind someone's back and implying that the group shouldn't fk with Brax bc he doesn't. It's such a manipulative move.
In my experience when I’ve dealt with ✨DRAMA✨ I would vent to my friends about it. Now granted this was literally high school and it was never about people we were friends with, but my circle knew who they were and I would explain my frustration. They would give input, I would calm down a bit and then we’d move on. I get how this situation is VERY different since it’s a public and financial circumstance, but to me I can’t blame the guy for venting to his friends. In the document Atsu posted he said he dmed Brax about the situation and was told they were “good” and yet he was still getting complaints from Hoyo. Idk everyone sucks in this.
Hey zmm
@@Trixie1773yeah I do not remember this "getting complaints after being good" lmao
Real, also Zmm pog
Ratsueven blamed the people he threw under the bus for his divorce 🤣 he said something along the lines of "if this didn't happen, I would still be happily married." The dude is a textbook narcissist. He blames everyone else but himself. I bet Nekkopii has a really good explanation about this "cheating", given how Ratsu is so good at manipulating situations to make it look like he's the victim.
A Vtuber made a 2 hour video about the drama... It's very short for be an archon mission xd
After watchng this video paikon is quite literally very intellectually capable yet he doesn't ever talk about drama. I have so much respect for you for this level of maturity.
never really liked atsu in the first place, then he pulls this gee I wonder why I never liked him
the problem with him claiming he attempted self delete... is that anyone can claim that... there is no proof for this... i have seen so many manipulative CC on YT that has claimed this but in actual fact they are just saying it to gain more clout....
call me jaded but this opening line by ratsu is 100% clout chasing behavior...
@@FreakyDudeEx you're jaded, but you're not wrong. i feel the same way about his opening statement. his wife's cheating has got nothing to do with the main issue, but the fact that he mentioned it and then saying shortly after that he doesn't want people to come at nekopii, that to me is a jerk move. if you don't want people to swarm your ex-wife, why mention her? he's hiding behind thoughts of suicide to stop people from criticizing his poor behavior.
im not trying to be a woke nerd and idk if its even on purpose or not but i jst wanna say that- (yap warning btw)
calling an asian person (specifically japanese btw look it up) a "rat" is very disrespectful and racist that it can even be considered a slur by some. so again idk if u meant the "ratsu" comment or if its jst a typo and i def know it wasn't your intention in the first place but yeah i jst wanted to put my two cents in from what knowledge i have
@@pochita-dvlthe term rat is not used as a slur here but as a slang to called someone who do things like snitch/lying. hence the name ratsu
@@viggo6607 the problem is the cheating might not even true at all...what if atsu ask his wife to delete all social media just to make this stage....
The last resort that atsu did was probably pent up on his side. Imagine having your wife cheating while you're in a position where people sht talking you. Man that sucks real bad.
Karma Is a righteous bish
@@thahirshibu5042Karma isn't real, shit happens whether we do right or wrong
@@racool911 nah, i think karma exists, it hits us in unexpected ways
crazy how paikon is the most mature in this situation
I literally thought this was one of those drama theory channels when I saw the thumbnail, only to look down and see paikon 😭
Paikon drama podcast when
2nd channel stuff. he said he loves drama and talks about it if theres anything new
@@rikimura_rishiI had heard that he is a nurse, I imagine him listening to the doctors' gossip
the part where he said that friends are there to hold you accountable and not hype you up for everything (during dish's segment) is so real, like it sucks in the moment when they don't back you up but then you can grow from the situation and not do the same next time. i feel really bad for everyone in the situation, especially people who got dragged into the drama (such as minsleif) cause most of them didn't do anything wrong from what i know
Guys, Atsu being manipulative goes way back during Zhongli drama. Which like what, 3 years ago? Maybe more? How can't ppl figure it out that he is manipulative person? How he kept agitate everyone about the situation already enough to get a gist of what kind of person he was (or is, considering we knows how it's turns out).
WTF HAS BRO BEEN MEWING
where?
@@bearyboo8722 literally his face cam 😭
@@Cyclone_Sekkaio bro does not have a jawline you trippin
I am so disappointed at Atsu. He was my first genshin cc. He is a demon in disguise
For the picture dox incident, how was he supposed to know? Though i understand you should want to ask people if you can post pics of them to social media. I think theyre going a little too hard on him, and its not like he kept it up after he was told. I think if i was a vtuber and people i dont know well will have pics of me, i would make a point to make sure they know not to post it.
They think everyone that done something about genshin know them like they are zhongli or some sht
From my understanding the not posting stuff without permission is industry standard.
It's a mix between the privacy required to be a CC and the emergence of Vtubers.
No one explained it to him because it was probably accepted as "common sense". An oversight on the part of the organizators yeah, but that doesn't really frees brax from fault, whether he intende it or not
@@insertgenerichannelname the problem at the time everybody posted the same pic not like a special pic for himself or something they should have been more careful instead of putting others in hell
@@TtTt-gs8ze fairly sure that those who posted the photo had censored the face, or posted another unrelated one.
@@insertgenerichannelname i do not remember who was in the photo there was alot of people that may or maynot have a certain realtionship with tounto but take in mind the timing of the post and if they informed him and he still did post it they wouldn't shut up
"Friends are not there to defend your bad decisions.
Friends are there to call out your bullshyt so you don't fcking spiral down further, and further.
They are not there to fcking just support you no matter what you say, alright? That's called the paid actor"
Such a wise words 😢❤
Nah, he fr said "If I'm going down, you're going down with me." 💀
“Hi, one of your VA is a predator”
“Who the hell starts a conversation like that? I just sat down”
You forgot to mention that because of Atsu, Goose attempted to end himself, and also Atsu intentionally forced Tectone to go public about him getting SA'd. Vile snake.
Tuonto Brax beef is stupid. How can you avoid something you didn’t know? The heck. Too much drama it’s better to play the game solo.
So I heard that the drama ended with atsu getting cheated on by his wife, Most people don't respect him no more, and lost everything.
Karma after what he did to goose eggs tbh
@thahirshibu5042 that's messed up bro. Low blow
@@gh05ti33 nope
@thahirshibu5042 I can't not believe that I'm in a world where if someone loses a bestfriend cuz of that one guy and that guy loses has wife, carrer, reputation, and passion then it's karma. Tech fans are crazy frfr.
@@gh05ti33 so are we ignoring the self deletion attempts atsu and his fans drove goose to or are they happy accidents??? I'm not saying that he deserved what he got, just that karma was finally biting him for his years of harassing and targeting 2 people
I honestly think that Brax was not really at fault here because, even tho Jake (Tuonto)'s girlfriend was technically face revealed, no one actually told Brax that she was a Vtuber, and most people wouldn't even know that she's a vtuber if she doesn't show her face on stream. The only reason why people found out was because Jake overreacted, and either the gf or Jake could've just asked Brax to take down the photo and if anyone asked, he could've just said that one of the people didn't want the photo to be posted. While Brax did accidentally reveal that Jake's ex is a vtuber, it was an honest mistake that came from a lack of prior knowledge, and Jake's saying that Brax doxxed his girlfriend, makes it seem like it was intentional, when it was just a mistake that everyone could've played cool if they hadn't overreacted.
Surprised Mr Xlice wasn't mentioned 💀
There seems to be a little bit of misinformation with how he explains Braxophone’s situation. His first time meeting Atsu, he did say hi. He was awkward somewhat due to not interacting with people in 2020-2021. Second time, he approached Atsu passing along a message he was told by another VA about another VA being creepy.
The document was made by Braxophone because Atsu was making an unfounded accusation of him of manipulating Tectone because Braxophone had a grudge against Atsu.
I appreciate paikon going over this with HEAVY emphasis on "you don't know what you don't know"
Good video man
The one thing I would never understand is the doxing thing, it wasn’t intentional and if you don’t want your picture on the internet then don’t take pictures especially with content creators. Tuonto could have said something to brax to let him know not to post it or edit her out, that was totally his negligence. Then keeping a grudge for that is just..
The issue with hoyoverse global community creators is they tend to make more content about drama of CC then the game itself.
The endgame content we never asked for.
Nah there are a lot of decent drama free creators its just that everyone involved are some of the biggest
As a long time Teccy viewer (Arknights Days), it goes WAY deeper than how you threw it out there as far as the origins of Baldie's, and Ratsu's beef. It's all been explained thoroughly by Tectone if anyone is curious. I believe in looking at both sides, and doing your best to be objective. So I would also recommend looking up Atsu's side of things as well to form your own opinion. Back to being biased though. If you have above room temperature IQ, won't take you long to connect the dots.
They really have to add paikon to the next list of docs. This is so unfair not to see drama involving my favorite gacha CC lmao 😂
this was the best explanation i’ve seen of this whole thing
As a total bystander @itspaikon did justice in clearing out the wrong views one would get reading that shit
its almost like atsu had a bad day and wanted the same for all
but as a viewer if my streamer is talking to me having fun with us and is feeling the good vibes we enjoy the streams the best
their personal life is something we shouldn't question just like they dont ask us of our lives
so just the fear of being disliked by your viewers can put fully grown adults into such stress that they return to grade schoolers
Reality is a seriously Funny joke
Only heard of this yesterday- and spent like hours watching videos trying to understand...I've done research 😅
idek what happened..just catching up on it now.
Thanks for the tldr. You’re actually a real one in this video for saying that stuff about what friends are.
Atsu is too grown to be doing all that
hes like, 30 or smth
@@rikimura_rishihe's 55, he should leave the internet or the Hoyospace and think about his retirement plans instead of whatever he's doing
@@gachagamer536 WHAT☠️ PLEASE TELL ME UR JOKING
@@pochita-dvl Just search on RUclips, he literally did a stream about it on twitch then uploaded it on RUclips, he announced he was 53 y/o two years ago
Nope, Atsu himself said he was over 50 in one of his stream
I haven’t been on genshin RUclips or been playing genshin in a while…. This is what I come back to😭
I blew up Twitter with *4 Genshin streamers* | *Genshin Impact*
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i have a bigger problem with him not realizing his quesadilla had cheese in it. dude sounds like he needs his parents still
From what I understand, Atsu seems to think he’s above everyone and sees other CC’s as below him. Is this right?
Too simplified but yeah you could say that.
mujin made a rly good video abt this (its literally several hours long) covering everything in detail. tbh these men just need to be in therapy and not feel like they have to explain themselves. both parties felt they were forced to admit really personal and horrible things from their past. i just hope atsu tectone and brax are safe and will be in a better place mentally in the future
It’s a huge rabbit hole
I haven't consumed genshin media and streamers for like a year, but when I heard of the drama going on I immediately wanted to know if was going on 😭 I have watched all these creators in the past so I know the names mentioned in the document atsu wrote but I was completely lost. Thanks for making this video I understand a lot better now ig 😭😭
Paikon is the genshin TMZ
NOT Atsu having a whole "yes-men" complaint towards Tectone, yet complaining when his friends are not "yes-men". He was really projecting with that one.
If you keep having bad experiences with everyone around you, maybe you're the problem and not everyone else.
you can clearly see in the corner that his resin is 0/200
80 pages of yapping, can't believe people took their time to read all that bs (including me) 😂
i feel bad for atsu and more for this entire unfortunate situation that i wish never happened at all.
Atsu absolutely brought some of this on himself, but I gotta say Brax seems like a liar. He made claims with no proof and people ate it up. So, even though I feel some of this is karma for what happened with Goose he also has to deal with his marriage falling apart, his lack of trust in his friends, and all these bizarre allegations Brax made. There's no way Atsu is okay mentally. So I wish him well, but dude has got to learn how to take accountability better. Writing 30 page documents is a waste of time when you can't even apologize properly. Plus he doesn't know when to keep things private. Not one thing in that doc needed to be public.
That was a bit too much but I think when he was backed into a corner I guess all the defense mechanisms immediately acted so I guess thats why he was able to make those statements as well as basically implode himself
everyone is in the wrong here, if they just made up in the start no one would even know that this beef ever happened
Brax already addressed and clarified about the contracts, he said he did get a contract, but just one time gigs from hoyo and not a permanent one like the ones Atsu's clique has. Atsu made it seem like Brax got a contract and that he lied about it, but purposely left out some of the important context. Also, I mean can anyone blame Brax? He felt like he was being purposely left out (which they actually did), and not given any opportunities to grow his brand due to some individual's influence in the hoyo cc space.
@@ayemjake
that is my main issue with Brax is that he feels entitled to befriend these content creators to socially climb
Like atsu is also to blame for how this all spiraled and all the friends he hurt
But brax literally was hurt someone didn't wanna befriend him so badly
And I am not saying social climbing is bad but bro if they don't want to include you then move the f on
And unless he shows prove that hoyo blacklisted him because of atsu then it is all bullshit and that whole argument is him being bitter about not being included in their friend group
@@amvbro7033 "But brax literally was hurt someone didn't wanna befriend him so badly."
Atsu was successful in making you believe this was the root of the problem. Even Dish apologized personally to Brax because she was peer pressured by Atsu, that to me is proof that Atsu used his influence to exclude people.
rATSU, accuses people of being "yes men"
Also demanded his "friend circle" to be "yes men" 😂
I hope this type of content is just a one time only, i can't bear with drama shit in my timeline
Aw thanks for this summary. I have no idea wtf is going on
10 Dollars on Ratsu posting another 100+ google doc pages in the near future with Paikon being included. Any raisers?
from 0-7 resin is crazyy lmao
CCs should stop talking about stuff like this publically. But anyways tldr Tectone is a leech and Atsu is a rat and brax is not as innocent as we thought.
they said they're "fixing stuff privately" while leaking chats and posting accusations online, ike cmon
@@rikimura_rishi yeah that's my issue with all of this, actual trash behavior.
Only person leeching is all these fake mfs in atsu group, Tectone explained his side pretty well
Why is brax not innocent? This whole drama is so confusing
Im just as confused i dont think brax did anything to warrant that part of the comment.
Tbh, that doc is a 30+ page explanation for why Atsu’s marriage failed. Cheating, if she did, isn’t right but if her husband can’t conduct his relationships like an adult I suspect she has been miserable for a long time and I’m glad she’s getting out of there
I'd admit that atsu is bad in terms of communication but cheating is never excusable. Ever.
If you fall out of love, say it to the person's face, get a divorce and go on with your life. Don't add oil to the fire and cheat.
Even if the relationship has become toxic and she has been miserable, cheating is cheating. She's not any better than Atsu in that case.
Wow these replies. These should sound good but idk.
When tecone's wife cheated on him and he divorced her, people just said "this is why your wife left you" type shid. 😶
I don't condone cheating btw- you SHOULD talk to your partner. You SHOULD be able to. But I CAN see how someone can feel trapped and unable to voice their needs if they're married to someone who thinks and acts like Atsu seems to based on that doc. It's extremely gaslight-y
i was NOT expecting paikon to make a video abt this
wtf is going. The world is flaming around me and I’ve noticed nothing
Atsu really made it look like Zyox commited a war crime dude
This drama was so messed up that Genshin should give us some apologems. Nah, jk. Genshin just don't care. Tbh, I don't even watch all the people involved in this drama. Sometimes I saw their accounts on my X timeline, but I already told X that I didn't interest on those accounts. Lol, they're just talking too much, like seriously. All the nonsense unrelated to the game itself. Since I saw their name trending, I was like, huh what happened? Did Genshin just sue them or something? Lol, oh, btw, thanks for the explanation. I would rather watch Ashikai, or Minsleif, or roozevelt, IslandXD, Chill with Aster, SiliconOneFour, or any other theory crafters.
to the question "how can you remember every single detail of an experience whether if its very bad or very good", my answer is depression
everyone experiences depression differently, it is true depression makes people forget but it also curses people with memories
atsu said he had two failed attempts, as when someone wanna die to the extent of trying two times, im sure he has a lot of time to think about the good and the bad which caused him to want to die because he has lost it all and the bad experiences still haunts him, he cant really do anything physically about it anymore, forgiving and forgetting still hurts because noone would believe as what is done has been done.
my personal opinion is that i pity atsu, content creating is really not a place for him as its obvious he has mental issues, i feel him ngl
also nekkopii sucks for cheating, who cares if its atsu hes done bad thing blah blah blah, cheating is never okay, is she would she couldve asked for divorce to find another instead of betraying someones trust for 10 years
Drama so huge paikon talked about it 😮
This is why you don't wear a mask dealing with "friends". Atsu treated everyone like he's in a corporate job or something.
From 1 Resin to 7 Resins
Lol