Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. C. S. Lewis
@@marioarguello6989 I don't think so. To me Selfentitlement is more of an issue. Especially when paired with a blanco cheque legitimation for cruelty. When the end justifies the means...
Excellent exposition of one of the most important yet maligned of all films. And its biggest detractors were those who had the same shallow view of human behavior as those who ran the treatment program in the movie. Kubrick was even called a "Fascist with a nihilistic sense of humor." Today, the film would be cancellation material for Kubrick.
This is one of the only channels I bother to go out of my way to comment on videos for. Both because it's a smaller channel that I very much enjoy and want to encourage it's continuation but also because I just feel so moved to do so and want to interact in any way I can. I've come to the assumption from your content that you're a fellow Christian. I've only come to believe within the last few years but also come from a background of appreciating both film and philosophy (imagine my excitement finding this channel!) This has been a great little journey of re-examination of media and thoughts long held through a current and thankfully changed lense. Yours is a rarity in being content that is both entertaining but also thought provoking and encouraging for me. Thanks for all your hard work! Long winded not necessarily video specific tangent over!
Thank you, my friend! Glad you're here and enjoying the stuff I throw together. Hopefully it wasn't too hard to figure out that I'm a Christian! All the best on your journey.
Wasn't too hard to someone in the know! Just as soon figured most of your content was neutral enough as to make it more approachable to a wider audience while still showing the way to knowledge and truth. Likely missed you mentioning in previous videos but do you have a patron or any way one might help support the work you do?
@@mainelymaintaining Sorry for taking so long to respond… for some reason I didn’t see this comment. I do indeed have a Patreon: www.patreon.com/EmpireoftheMind
This is one of the few channels who actually break down films in a new and interesting way. Most others just recycle crap that’s been said before. Thank you for all the hard work
i subbed just because of the quotes from the actual greats of history - i can't image most people on youtube adding that type of heavy content to make you think
This is just so on point and eerily prophetic to our current situation in 2023 . I feel that about so many of Kubricks films. This was an incredible thought- provoking analysis that got me through a super mundane day of work . Cheers and thanks for the great vid ! Subscribed
There is great danger here, the danger its totality. Is Lovecraftian in scope and Eldritch in its horror... yet the only mosters preasent are man and his creations.
I have just discovered your channel thanks to my interest in Kubrick and my admiration for his work. Very good analysis that avoids the usual, and pathetic, liberal whining about "the rights of the individual" which are ignored and trampled on when it suits our "liberal, humane and democratic" governments. The case of Julian Assange is a perfect example of the aforesaid. Regards.
One of the tiny details I love in this film involves the head prison guard. In the movie he is depicted as a petty tyrant who views criminals as irredeemable and incapable of reformation and they should all be subject to his discipline for all time. And when Alex is being chosen and transferred to the Ludovico facility, he's the biggest skeptic. Yet when he's in the room to witness their demonstration of Alex's "reform", he watches it with a smug smile. He becomes a complete convert and highly approves of the fact that a criminal was effectively defanged. And it's this smile that is on screen when the chaplain starts his criticism of the procedure and you watch the guard's face change from a smile to a look of annoyance. Really hammers home how the chaplain is really the only good person in the movie. The main guard epitomizes the point in the first video of this series of how corrupt the entire system is in A Clockwork Orange.
I just finished reading the novel as part of my reading of dystopian novels, and it turns out at the time that Kubrick made the movie he did not have the final chapter available to him; it was not in the American version. It does change a number of thing about the story--I'll ask you to read it for yourself and determine its effect. On another note, Malcom McDowell plays a conductor in Mozart in the Jungle. And in the first episode he is either putting on or taking off (I can't remember which) makeup on his eye which is a visual quote of ACO.
According to Malcom in an interview, the final chapter was only written at the behest of the British printers so that Alex would have a "normal" ending in which he was rehabilitated. Kubrick himself said it was a terrible ending.
@@narcissus79 I don't know if I would say it's a terrible ending, exactly. Anthony Burgess himself said the final chapter was removed from the American release because the American publishers said they hated it. I feel like it may remove or overshadow the ideas that were expressed up to that final chapter, changing the impression you got from the book, overall. It adds a different quality to it, one I think speaks of the path from boyhood to grown man, how Alex decides growing up is the best course for him -- essentially becoming "A Clockwork Orange" in a different sense, as he sets out on a path expected of him. I don't know, that was my takeaway from the final chapter and how it meshes with the rest of the story. I may have to read it again soon.
The final chapter is thematically essential and serves the purpose of demonstrating that Alex will *choose* to build his dome on rock rather than sand, in reference to the Charlie's sermon in Part 2, thereby turning the novel into an extended biblical parable. As you surely know, Burgess was profoundly Catholic and wanted the book to be interpreted exegetically. So be it.
This film begs the question, at what point does Alex fulfill his “debt” to society, and what does his treatment (torture) say about the collectors of that debt? In the end, alex ends up back where he started, “cured.” The cure for criminality is purity, and in the context of clockwork orange, the now cured Alex has paid his debt to society and is purified through his purgatory. All the characters in the film little by little force alex to truly pay off his debt to society, thus reflecting their own immortalities along the way. Brilliant analysis.
I once wrote to a friend to express that music, at that time it was a piece by Ravel, saved my life daily--this in the face of the vagaries of our contemporary condition--. Your videos do the same.
My next favorite channel. Holy cow- mind blown by the depth and truth laid out in plain speaking here. This series of videos just illuminated personal struggles. Thank you Thabk you Thank you Thank you so much for the work taken to create these truth/love bombs.
I saw this film as a teenager and never really could make any sense of it. Read the book and got some more clues, but still find Kubrick's vision a little opaque.
I am the child of both a murderer and his victim. I wasn't going to say anything but I feel that I'm maybe one of the few who can answer your questions from this video... Yes, we can go on living knowing these people are out there while our loved ones were taken and our lives were upended forever.. It takes a whole lot of trauma processing and therapy though.. and a whole lot of luck in order not to become them. Maybe the strongest statement this movie got right.. it takes more than being a victim to become a survivor. It takes change, and that takes effort, consciousness.. and yeah.. also luck.. Meanwhile.. the PTSD lasts forever. My father was created by trauma into the broken person he became. My mother was the woman willing to start her life over and be a divorced and grieving mother to her children. Imperfect but our mom. The difference is in who they made their choices for. I ended up in a place where I was abused after. I went to the police. Both my father and his father ended up in prison for what they did.. and I know better than most how easily I could have become them. I didn't because I wanted a better future than my own past, and not just for myself. My father has been out of prison for years now. He always follows the same pattern. He finds a woman who likes him, he gets her pregnant as soon as possible. He proposes to marry, and maybe they do.. but when they find out what happened to my mother, she takes the kid and leaves.. rightly so.. Why? Because in the decades between then and now he has changed very little about himself. He is still an impulsive and at heart deeply pessimistic man. Hope takes courage. He is still capable of the same violence and rage that ruined his own life as well as (or possibly more than) ours. Empathy reaches outwards and eventually.. we learn we ourselves shouldn't be exceptions to our own empathy. We heal. He was turned inwards instead. There are many reasons for that. Not all of those are his fault.. but he couldn't look past himself and his own needs. No one else did, and he never grew from that almost childlike self centered state into mental maturity. We are all capable of horrible things. The will to not do them has to be found within us as well. Within love. Enough so it overrides the purely egocentric. It is also what is never addressed in this movie/story. The change is nothing but a surface veneer. True change comes from the inside out by taking ourselves out of the middle of it all.. In many ways, I see him as a man who never survived his own childhood, even though he is alive. I can only forgive him for my portion of the pain he has inflicted, and I have. I'll never stop missing my mother. The anger and my own pain isn't gone. I live with the fear and the loss and the grief his actions brought me. I live with PTSD.. but I honestly wish he'd go into therapy, and start his own journey healing.. because seeing him just act out the same pattern of what happened before, over and over.. it makes me sad.. My mother loved him once. I wish he'd remember that, and honor it by changing.. by the same kind of introspection we had to go through to get to where we are.. I have a staggering amount of half siblings from his side.. all of them without a father. We're better off.. but I wish for a time when that is no longer true.. and call me an optimist (which I know I definitely am) but I still think he can get to that point where maybe he won't have a wife or kids, but can finally just live with himself.. I know it is possible because I have lived it. I wish he'd find a good therapist, go into therapy, and not hold anything back. The worst judgement we face is usually our own. That self judgement is toxic though.. and drives us to more violence instead of towards self acceptance.. Self acceptance is the very first step towards healing.. healing is what allows us to love people.. and let them love us back without hiding anything of ourselves.. it breaks the cycle. It's not about making up with a few dozen fatherless kids or their mothers and families.. it's not about trying to trap people to stay with you.. it's in preferring to be by the side of someone you love.. in good days and bad ones.. it's not about sharing a bed, or even a home, or every day.. it's about sharing our time and our hearts.. even or maybe especially as "just friends".. Making that connection is what he has sought for all his life and never fully found.. I know he tried to find it, life happens.. it is never easy. Not for anyone.. but I hope everyone finds that, and that includes him.. 40+ years, a lot of therapy, more bad days, and optimism.. Because in the end the pessimistic people get to say "I told you so" but meanwhile the optimistic people in the world live a better life.. We die only once. Of all the times we think "I'm not going to make it" only one single time will we be right. The rest of the time, we will be wrong.. so stop listening to the toxicity of pessimism and try again. I'm not "special", I'm normal.. ordinary.. some things I'm good at, many things I'm not. That's okay.. actually it's really good because it can take some of the stress off when we take ourselves a little too seriously.. it also means that anyone can do what I have though, and that it is worth trying again if you tried and failed.. ❤ I wish all people the happiness and peace and wholeness I had to fight to find within myself, and none of the bad hair days ;) ❤ EDIT: P.S. clearly Nietzsche and I disagree yet again... 😂 Being strong enough to be gentle means taking a stand and having a backbone per definition. The reasons for incarceration should be to stop violence. No punishment ever fits what we have lost. It never can. It's not about that once the most accure rage fades and we begin to heal and see the people who hurt us as they actually are again. Some people *are* too dangerous to be free. In such cases, they shouldn't be. My grief is not a blank check though. People don't get to use it to add even more needless suffering to people's lives. Anyone's. Even those who would never extend it to others "deserve" to be treated humanely.. because it isn't something any of us "earn".. It's not a bank account.. Human rights include all human beings. Humane treatment should apply to any life that touches our own.. not because of who those lives belong to or not.. but because we are human beings. Fear and rage are great alarm clocks, but generally bad advisors..
A question the film raised for me is "how long until everyone, except the ruling class and their enforcers are given "the treatment?" A non violent populace, is a populace that cannot rebel. Even to attempt non-violent protest, the threat of violence could disrupt a political demonstration. Making opposition to authority impossible.
What's done in prisons today? Prisoners, especially the mentally ill (since we closed our asylums in the 1980s) are kept locked up under chemical restraint. CS Lewis had some very compelling things to say about treatment vs. punishment. When punishment is over, it's over. But treatment continues indefinitely, until one is "cured." When Alex is recovering he tells the psychologist that while he was unconscious he felt as if someone was tinkering inside his head.
00:20 No, no, no, you have to change this, he is not a "mechanical fruit," but an "orang." During the war, Burges served in the Malaya, where the word "orang" means "a man." It therefore entered the Nadsat vocabulary.
3:38 this kinda conditioning has happened in my town to young children with no crimnal record, just because the public school did not want to deal with kids who were differemt or asked too many questions
It is Ultamately our Free Will and ability to reason that makes Humanity Special. It is our ability to Comprehend the world and situations surrounding us that makes us Human. Humanity in itself is Devine. Needless of a God. Humanity is Sacred, and it should be sacred to you on the simple basis that your Human yourself. Never should a single Human be restricted from their own self determined Will, never should one restrict, impeed, hinder or snuff out the Free Will of another.
RUclips needs more content like this. It's refreshing, like cool water on a hot day, or like the silence after some drunk moron who's been yammering on at you for six hours about cryptocurrency or golf finally passes out and topples over onto the floor. It's truly puzzling that you only have 57k subscribers. In any case, I look forward to your future contributions. Good luck and Godspeed, my friend.
Morality and the debate of right and wrong. Some people would believe something is right and other believe that same thing is wrong. The debate will last a lifetime, but the reality is things/actions are either good or bad. And who ever believes a evil is good or a good is evil is wrong. It’s just getting someone to see truth is the difficult when they believe they are moral. Are more wrongs committed under the idea of being good then wrongs committed for the notion that they are wrong?
24:24 - The fall did not reverse his conditioning, the state did. They even make the big show at the end to demonstrate that point. It's unclear, but it seemed to be some kind of surgical procedure because his head is wrapped up as it would be after brain surgery.
I am sure you will get to the shining in time but I want to give you my view on it. Each character is an archetype or a symbolic representation of a dysfunctional family. They drunken emotionally stunted father. to the mother who is powerless and emotional in her own right, unable to even protect her child. And a emotionaly and possibly sexually abused child seeing his gods act in ways he can't comprehend. The shifts of tonality thoughout the movie as well as the actual physical items shifting is symbolic of the view points shifting between each character as well, is to encourage the constant state of discomfort and disorder that comes with these people. If you look at the movie through this lense it makes a lot of sense. And it is often the realistic relatable horrors that create the longest lasting and impacting scares. And the movie ends with a picture of Jack who as an abuse father has always been there in society and sadly will be there one day again.
With hindsight, I feel the film was delivering a stark warning of the shape of things to come. The moral relativism promulgated by the cultural marxist's via the 'long march' through the institutions being illustrated by the brutalist architecture and the scientism of Alex's therapy. The vindictiveness of the left wing writer is presciently mimetic of the modern progressive woke virtue signaller, for even the smallest deviation from their inculcated ideology, whilst the priest seems to represent an anachronistic remnant of the morals and ethics of the previous 2,000 years. Indeed the finer points of both Stoicism and Christianity are negated through the universal lack of forgiveness that is displayed. Dystopian for sure, but a reminder for those that are still able to chose: Even in a world where there are so many bad people, chose to be good.
We have been there for a long time. Rockefeller & Dewey created the American education system specifically to "create cogs in the wheel of society". Rockefeller & Dewey created the US education system by using the philosophy of Hegel & Wundt. The same two men to whom Marx & Trotsky used to create Communism! Hegel wrote that he was fearful of the educated man! In their own words, an education system must dumb down the population and "to create a passive society of people who merely act as cogs in the wheel of society" Thus, Americans are NOT critical thinkers - They just "go along". That is why the nation is completely & utterly Bankrupt. According to the CBO and IMF in 2011, the current US Federal Debt is 211 Trillion! Removing critical thinking from education was simple & genius! In summary, the Western Education system is not education at all. But rather a system of social conditioning! Interesting piece: How John Dewey Used Public ‘Education’ to Subvert Liberty illinoisfamily.org/education/how-john-dewey-used-public-education-to-subvert-liberty/?fbclid=IwAR2FLkcmnak6pcFggRlJBlzA6hsAcYhSDoxVR8556GZ7-d5yJCRpBczNOAI
@@Red-Cloud69 Most serial killers have some form of brain damage, so technically they don't really have free will. I'm not saying we should let them go free.
Although Alex was chemically lobotomised by the state his real personality was protected in deeper layers of his brain and eventually rose back to the surface to restore him to his former state.
The moral theologians at the catholic university I attended recommended we watch ACO on movie night. Considering the mockery of the chaplain and the dancing Jesus montage, I thought it was big of them. Indeed it explores many knotty issues of moral theology, and comes to no favorable conclusions.
Fascinating. I've never sat through A Clockwork Orange as it never appealed to me. I might now do so. Edit. Your Nietzche reference is something I have heard from activists recently, suggesting that punishing criminals is amoral and that we should instead seek to address the societal issues that lead people into criminal activity. Personally, I think that position is dangerous. People have freedom of choice, and are able to choose to behave well or badly. Removing that freedom seems to me to be a dangerous path to follow. While it would eradicate crime, in theory, it would also eradicate freedom. We would end up living in Demolition Man world, which by the way, you would do well to review!
Punishment is not improving the criminal stats for the Americans. Already they house 30% of the world's prisoners and histories largest collection of children prisoners. To be sure, the USA will need better solutions than prisons, punishment and bombs. It will have to intellectualize itself out of these ever-growing problems. The entire culture has become sick: collectively suffering from a broken soul.
I don't see the two things as either/or: a civilized society should pursue the best possible social and economical justice, so that everyone has access to a dignified life and the socio-economic breeding ground for crime is removed. At that point, but only at that point, when crime really becomes a choice, it can be punished in an exemplary and deterring way. Then the punishment will be really for the common good, and not just for the protection of economical and political privileges, as it is in most societies today.
Great videos, thank you for being an intellectual voice and showing that everyone worships something, if your God isn’t a theological god it might be Beethoven or the government or the status quo.
I think an interesting parallel example of something similar happeneing now are aversion drugs prescribed for substance abuse, like that pill that makes a person sick when they drink alcohol, or that implant that makes opiates ineffective. Substance abuse is a compulsion that is an emotional problem, a problem of the will, to use the terms you do in the video. The aversive drugs do nothing to address that compulsion, or most of the behaviour associated with the emotional problems attendant. But institutions prescribe these treatmetns as a solution, to willing, though perhaps not fully informed, individuals and pretend that it is a solution. When it's not. The real circumstances and the emotional alienation that gives rise to substance abuse on the scale that it exists today is a characteristic of the modern society that we have created, and the solution, if we want one, has to lie in changing that society. But no one really wants to do that....
Nietzsche is here following Robespierre and his master Beccaria. I would say, since crimes are different, punishments should be different. When a punishment that's not death or prison for life has been served, liberty should be restored.
we know the meaning. its also about how certain male youths / young men just wanna be bad / naughty, be and a gang of 'very naughty buys' and break the law , be violent, etc, the rolling stones becamse famous around the same time the book came out, part of their 'a gang of bad boys' shtick was modeled on the droogs. so many of us when we were young were badly behaved, usually thankfully nowhere near as bad as the droogs, obviously. but stuff like smoking ciggys / boozing, getting in a fist fight or two, other low level petty crime- eg vandalism , drining and driving. alex doesnt coem from a horrible abusive family situation, he just wants to act out and be tough, i assume the whole bad boy thing is an immature attempt to prove bravery and toughness in a way. this is why its good to get young men and boys to play physically violent sports such as rugby instead.
@19:10 there is a concept in psychology called informed consent, this is not mere consent, this is consent given after being told the exact nature of the procedure for treatment, it's exact purpose, what if any drugs would be administered, their intended effects, possible side effects, possible dangers and side effects from the entire treatment regimen, information about confidentiality and disclosure of any identifying information for the individual being studied. Like many of the concepts that you gloss over that are attached to psychology or medicine this analysis is paper thin as it rests upon a misunderstanding of what consent in this situation is.
18:30 it is the greatest good man can hope to achieve, to better themselves and not stay stagnant, advancing technology is the only good worth pursuing
But sorry, in the end Alex is not reconditioned by the fall of the attempted suicide. When Alex is hospitalized he talks to the Doctor about a recurring dream he is having, in which numerous doctors are around him and work with his "Gulliver". The reference is to a more sophisticated conditioning technique that operates in the waking state. In fact, when the Doctor carries out the test with the slides, no one notices that Alex has regained his violence and aggression but not his sexuality. All the slides present simple, non-explicit drawings of interactions between individuals, in which Alex "freely" adds aggression and violence, the only slide that contains explicit content is number 3 (naked woman) and Alex replies that he doesn't have time to have sex and have to work. (?????) Applied to 2023: televisions and cell phones actually lead us into a state of wakefulness, a state in which it is possible to effect effective conditioning through contents, which are for the most part increasingly explicit and sexualised. The result apparently of this process is in fact a sort of environmental castration which today is manifested in sexual recession, the systematic crisis of relational and sentimental relationships which are increasingly produced in violent interactions. Furthermore, the subjects are infantilized (Alex being fed by the prime minister). Today we are witnessing this ridiculous contrast between males and females reduced to a childish issue for kindergarten children (LGBT etc etc) As if democratic power cannot make aggressive conditioning public but is forced by its needs to use it anyway, in a slower and more subtle way, simulating a sort of natural process.Scary. Anyway great great great channel congratulations
The burning of witches has been greatly exaggerated. Of the witches put on trial and in deed burned much was fueled by superstition, vengeance and manipulation of bad actors and thus was checked by other Christians and put a stop to it. But to play a little devils advocate, say you got a real witchcraft problem. Certainly some measure of punnishment to a real witch is better than allowing it to continue. Contrary to modern popular culture, witchcraft is in deed evil so the fear that Theonomy would criminalize it doesn't bother me though I can see why it would bother a witch. Oh and the criminalization of extortion bothers extortionists and the criminalization of rape bothers rapists and the pedos of this world really can't understand why pedophilia is a crime. Ross, your fearmonger Strawman is thus rejected out of hand.
@@YTTraveler777 No straw man here, but a Baptist, yes, and one who holds to separation of church and state, otherwise my Presbyterians friend tend to drown Baptists over a doctrine they can't find in the scriptures. Let's take your witchcraft analogy and dissect it to prove theonomy is unworkable and alien to new covenant theology. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft (1 Samuel 15:23) and I'm sure you'll agree than man is born in rebellion against his creator (Romans 8:7). To be consistent against witchcraft you are going to kill a lot of children, perhaps even your own. My argument is not a straw man, but yours is a slippery slope for sure. Vengeance is mine saith The Lord, I will repay.
6:19 - While you're correct here, you're missing a HUGE supporting point. Alex was faking his response to treatment. He never got ill. He can belch on command. Rewatch it with the idea of Alex faking it and you'll see. The point being that they can't change his thoughts OR actions.
No, the technique worked. They conditioned his body physically. That’s why he tried to snuff it at the end. The head trauma from jumping out the window reverts him back to his natural-self. What are you talking about
@Joe Anthony Alex manipulates the situation to get out of prison. The prison is being emptied to make space for political prisoners (the government is authoritarian). Alex's actions are to further an advancement within his system. In the way his droogs are now police, he as a leader, will become the tool of the political class (used to oppress the people). Watch it again. There is a lot of symbolism you missed. Note that the politician CHOOSES Alex directly after he sees what a great liar he is. The politican even says "excellent." One of the original posters for the movie show Alex with fake teeth in front of his mouth (he is false-mouthed).
Modern day ideas, like feminism, are the most anti-human and anti-intellectual things ever, even though they claim the opposite. I've been collecting old movies with a message for a long time. It's tragic how people these days watch these powerful old movies and all they do is get offended. They take whatever the movie is saying and spit in its face and insult your intelligence. People are so feminine these days. So fast to judge what's on the surface. Their eye gets rubbed the wrong way for even a second, just an image, and they just get triggered and reject you. It was a shocker back in the day but now you can lose all your friends if you like these kinds of movies. Can't help seeing it as Clockwork Orange breaking the third wall. We got people in the world so brainwashed by modern ideas when they see a movie like this they go through what Alex went through after his brainwashing. The defense mechanisms go, the mental filters, the programming, and they get sick and violently emotional. No self-control, no tolerance, even though they tell you their programming made them more tolerant than you. They call you the sick and emotionally violent one. An old shocker with a message is enough to have them on the ground holding their ears and screaming in agony. Just sad. Modern day things lack discipline and wisdom, and people are programmed to reject anything old with a heart and soul.
Feminism in and of itself is hardly “anti-human.” It’s the imposition or manipulation of ideologies that makes them dangerous; trying to force people into certain beliefs or practices is when the trouble starts.
@@joeanthony7759 It is anti-human. Wants you scared and confused and sucking on a pacifier. I don't care if you have a pretty idea of it in your head, all that matters is reality. I also defi9ne people by what they are, not what they want to be or claim to be.
@@tommyhatcher3399 As someone who's on the autism spectrum, I occasionally need a moment to collect myself when I get triggered. This results in what I call "mental spasms". However, I never tell anybody to stop saying or doing things that activate these mental triggers. Sometimes, they activate due to my own thoughts, not because of any outside stimuli, so I can't blame anybody else for triggering them by accident. I just want them to give me a moment to recover, then move on like nothing happened. My autism is my own problem, not anybody else's and there are some aspects of it that I wouldn't trade for the world, such as logical thinking and the ability to hyper-focus when I'm passionate.
@@tomnorton4277 Oh, buddy, triggered means a million things these days, like the word toxic. As an actual mental health term, I'm not even touching that. Some people just abuse the word, like Twitter clowns who get a comment they didn't agree with and claim PTSD. I should've put triggered in quotation marks, but if I start with triggered I might as well put all words in quotation marks.
The Padre ought to read the Bible he holds. Goodness is not within man. Mark chapter 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man. Man cannot be rehabilitated, we must be regenerated. YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN BORN OF THE SPIRIT
I hate the rape scene.cutting her cloths while the degenerate is singing.Vial.But like all kubrick films he puts things in.like the word adrenachrome on the milk bar wall and the basically mk ultra.Things leople still secretly discuss or call it conspirocy.
no man i don't share your views, i rather have them experiment than being afraid and do nothing, WW2 nazi scientists were monsters but thanks to them transplants are now possible, there's always good and bad things about everything, so don't be afraid of the future of science.
Great video as always. I'm curious if you felt the final chapter in A Clockwork Orange (the piece that was missing from the American release of the book as well as Kubrick's film) really adds or detracts from the theme which we were presented with. I felt the final chapter does shape the takeaway of the story a bit differently from what we were left with, with the American version and the film.
Really solid video essay which raises lots of interesting questions. Free-will vs determinism was one of Burgess' pet topics - from Pelagius vs Augustine to modernity - and the Irish chaplain, for all his flaws, is the moral backbone of both book and film. btw - Burgess was a teacher in post WW II Malaya, where in the native language 'Orang' is 'man'
Yes, as in the Malay phrase "orang utan:" literally, "old man of the forest." Like his literary hero Joyce, Burgess was a word-obsessed polyglot. His marriage of English to Russian in the novel is nothing short of brilliant ... Right right right, O my brother?
this video reminds me of the of a docuessay I watched like 5 years ago about the breakdown of the state mental asylum system in the US with the almost simultaneous assault by narrative farming journalists. I really wish I could find it again.
I have seen some excellent asylums in Europe and parts of Asia. Today in the USA, out-patient mental health care consists solely of prescribing Xanax; atypical antipsychotic drugs (SGAs) like Risperdal, Zyprexa, Seroquel, Geodon and Abilify; and, serotonin-dopamine activity modulators (SDAMs) [aka chemical lobotomies]. Over time the Xanax causes enormous swaths of brain tissue to die, (it acts as a tourniquet - eventually leading to cell death - most countries ban long-term use); and, the SGAs & SDAMs cause akathisia & Extrapyramidal Side-Effects (EPS). EPS means the patient develops all host of facial and motor tics, Parkinsonian like deficits, etc. [Don't worry! It's terrific profit for the drug companies!] For those that can't afford the drugs or afford access to doctors, (eg, In the USA Xanax is marked up over 30,000% higher than its international generic equivalent - Alprazolam), many have learned to import the generic powder by the kilogram from China, and press their own pills to sell on the black market. In addition to street Xanax, those suffering various forms of mental illness have frequently found respite by abusing alcohol, opioids and narcotics. Unfortunately, the USA no longer seems to have many in-patient facilities. By the late 1980s, in-patient franchises like Charter Hospital were popping up all over the USA. Greed is Good - These in-patient franchises were charging tens of thousands of dollars per week for in-patient care (doping). Insurance companies lobbied (bribed - its legal) politicians to shut down in-patient facilities - like the Charter Hospital franchise - by around 2005. Therefore, in the USA, in-patient care is limited to the private corporate prison system. You can still find some highly profitable in-patient facilities: eg., so-called Residential Inpatient Treatment Centers. Once again - Greed lubricates the wheels of the machine (bribery of local government). Local police agencies are paid to have their officers involuntarily commit people to the local Residential Inpatient Treatment Center. Once in, the patient is trapped and bills rack up. Myself and another physician fought for almost three weeks to get someone wrongly committed to the Montgomery Co. (Maryland) in-patient facility. They were wrongly committed to generate revenue. The police committed the person without cause. In-patient involuntary commitments are supposed to be a max. of 72 hours; whereupon they are to be given access to a judge. The other physician with me on this matter was the persons primary care physician. We kept trying to get a court hearing. Montgomery Co. responded with a barrage of court hearing date resets at the last minute. Finally we got the patient in front of a judge - solely due to good luck. We managed to schedule a hearing in front of a sympathetic judge so suddenly that Montgomery Co. had no time to react. You may ask, "What about a lawsuit? Criminal proceedings?" WRONG! The local government is in on it; so there will be no criminal charges. We couldn't find any Maryland attorney to take the case - Seems they were all working to one degree or another for the Montgomery Co. treatment center. The attorney's told us they had to decline because, "Montgomery Co. (treatment facility) was their client". [I had the same experience in Florida regarding a personal injury matter relating to Disney. It seemed all the workman comp lawyers in the State got money from Disney.] Finally, I found legal counsel in NYC. But by then the victim had enough. She just wanted to get past it all. I don't blame her. Mental illness certainly has not gone away in the USA. To be sure, the ranks of the mentally ill have vastly expanded. Greed is Good. The pharmaceutical companies and mental health institutions have a specific duty to serve their shareholders - not the patients. If people can't afford the pricy insurance, they have to seek remedies "on the street". Frequently, they are simply processed into the corporate private prison industry like energy chattel. It's all good if you simply signup and join the gravy train!
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Just read that essay the other day. It's so so good.
Thats frightening , im living in a real live nightmare with no chance of waking up , sleep paralysis
No one worse than a True Believer.
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I don't think so. To me Selfentitlement is more of an issue. Especially when paired with a blanco cheque legitimation for cruelty. When the end justifies the means...
@@Calimerothesadbird Are your randomly put together words supposed to mean something?
Excellent exposition of one of the most important yet maligned of all films. And its biggest detractors were those who had the same shallow view of human behavior as those who ran the treatment program in the movie. Kubrick was even called a "Fascist with a nihilistic sense of humor." Today, the film would be cancellation material for Kubrick.
I'm pretty sure Pauline Kael hated it.
This is one of the only channels I bother to go out of my way to comment on videos for. Both because it's a smaller channel that I very much enjoy and want to encourage it's continuation but also because I just feel so moved to do so and want to interact in any way I can. I've come to the assumption from your content that you're a fellow Christian. I've only come to believe within the last few years but also come from a background of appreciating both film and philosophy (imagine my excitement finding this channel!) This has been a great little journey of re-examination of media and thoughts long held through a current and thankfully changed lense. Yours is a rarity in being content that is both entertaining but also thought provoking and encouraging for me. Thanks for all your hard work! Long winded not necessarily video specific tangent over!
Thank you, my friend! Glad you're here and enjoying the stuff I throw together. Hopefully it wasn't too hard to figure out that I'm a Christian! All the best on your journey.
Wasn't too hard to someone in the know! Just as soon figured most of your content was neutral enough as to make it more approachable to a wider audience while still showing the way to knowledge and truth. Likely missed you mentioning in previous videos but do you have a patron or any way one might help support the work you do?
I’m an atheist and i approve of these comments :-)
@@mainelymaintaining Sorry for taking so long to respond… for some reason I didn’t see this comment. I do indeed have a Patreon: www.patreon.com/EmpireoftheMind
Right on! I'd be happy to contribute what I can to support one of my favorite channels!
This is one of the few channels who actually break down films in a new and interesting way. Most others just recycle crap that’s been said before. Thank you for all the hard work
i subbed just because of the quotes from the actual greats of history - i can't image most people on youtube adding that type of heavy content to make you think
This is just so on point and eerily prophetic to our current situation in 2023 . I feel that about so many of Kubricks films. This was an incredible thought- provoking analysis that got me through a super mundane day of work . Cheers and thanks for the great vid ! Subscribed
There is great danger here, the danger its totality. Is Lovecraftian in scope and Eldritch in its horror... yet the only mosters preasent are man and his creations.
I have just discovered your channel thanks to my interest in Kubrick and my admiration for his work. Very good analysis that avoids the usual, and pathetic, liberal whining about "the rights of the individual" which are ignored and trampled on when it suits our "liberal, humane and democratic" governments. The case of Julian Assange is a perfect example of the aforesaid. Regards.
99% of those calling themselves "Liberal" are not, in case you haven't noticed.
Your videos are like a light in a cave. The world becomes just a little clearer, and I am ever grateful for your help 😁
Thank you, my friend!
This movie is more relevant today than ever before.
Fantastic content. Very relevant to current year. Keep up the great work and analysis!
One of the tiny details I love in this film involves the head prison guard. In the movie he is depicted as a petty tyrant who views criminals as irredeemable and incapable of reformation and they should all be subject to his discipline for all time. And when Alex is being chosen and transferred to the Ludovico facility, he's the biggest skeptic. Yet when he's in the room to witness their demonstration of Alex's "reform", he watches it with a smug smile. He becomes a complete convert and highly approves of the fact that a criminal was effectively defanged. And it's this smile that is on screen when the chaplain starts his criticism of the procedure and you watch the guard's face change from a smile to a look of annoyance. Really hammers home how the chaplain is really the only good person in the movie. The main guard epitomizes the point in the first video of this series of how corrupt the entire system is in A Clockwork Orange.
Your videos are a masterpiece. Never stop what you're doing. Congratulations for you amazing job!
I just finished reading the novel as part of my reading of dystopian novels, and it turns out at the time that Kubrick made the movie he did not have the final chapter available to him; it was not in the American version. It does change a number of thing about the story--I'll ask you to read it for yourself and determine its effect.
On another note, Malcom McDowell plays a conductor in Mozart in the Jungle. And in the first episode he is either putting on or taking off (I can't remember which) makeup on his eye which is a visual quote of ACO.
According to Malcom in an interview, the final chapter was only written at the behest of the British printers so that Alex would have a "normal" ending in which he was rehabilitated. Kubrick himself said it was a terrible ending.
@@narcissus79 I don't know if I would say it's a terrible ending, exactly. Anthony Burgess himself said the final chapter was removed from the American release because the American publishers said they hated it. I feel like it may remove or overshadow the ideas that were expressed up to that final chapter, changing the impression you got from the book, overall. It adds a different quality to it, one I think speaks of the path from boyhood to grown man, how Alex decides growing up is the best course for him -- essentially becoming "A Clockwork Orange" in a different sense, as he sets out on a path expected of him.
I don't know, that was my takeaway from the final chapter and how it meshes with the rest of the story. I may have to read it again soon.
The final chapter is thematically essential and serves the purpose of demonstrating that Alex will *choose* to build his dome on rock rather than sand, in reference to the Charlie's sermon in Part 2, thereby turning the novel into an extended biblical parable. As you surely know, Burgess was profoundly Catholic and wanted the book to be interpreted exegetically. So be it.
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This film begs the question, at what point does Alex fulfill his “debt” to society, and what does his treatment (torture) say about the collectors of that debt? In the end, alex ends up back where he started, “cured.” The cure for criminality is purity, and in the context of clockwork orange, the now cured Alex has paid his debt to society and is purified through his purgatory. All the characters in the film little by little force alex to truly pay off his debt to society, thus reflecting their own immortalities along the way. Brilliant analysis.
I once wrote to a friend to express that music, at that time it was a piece by Ravel, saved my life daily--this in the face of the vagaries of our contemporary condition--. Your videos do the same.
My next favorite channel. Holy cow- mind blown by the depth and truth laid out in plain speaking here. This series of videos just illuminated personal struggles. Thank you Thabk you Thank you Thank you so much for the work taken to create these truth/love bombs.
Analysis is on point, and also why A Clockwork Orange is my fav movie.
I saw this film as a teenager and never really could make any sense of it. Read the book and got some more clues, but still find Kubrick's vision a little opaque.
The Center for Cognitive Liberty and Ethics (CCLE) has been sounding the alarm on this for over a decade.
Fun fact the old English word for for fate is wyrd better known in modern English as “weird”. Godspeed
Hence the "Weird Sisters" in Macbeth...
Another great video! So happy I found you on here. Kubrick is one of my favorite directors.
Mine too and I cherish my DVDS of many of his films, I am retired and a chronic insomniac so your work is heavenly and so interesting.
Fantastic commentary. I like the analysis vis-a-vis the three negations of liberty.
I hope you will analyze Eyes Wide Shut on this channel.
That's the plan!
Yes one of my favourite films as I am totally obsessed with the subject matter and enjoy this immensely.
Thank you, this interpretation was very interesting and fantastic! Bravo!
Popping up to say hi and to congratulate you for such great analysis! Great channel, by the way!
Hey, thanks!
I am the child of both a murderer and his victim.
I wasn't going to say anything but I feel that I'm maybe one of the few who can answer your questions from this video...
Yes, we can go on living knowing these people are out there while our loved ones were taken and our lives were upended forever.. It takes a whole lot of trauma processing and therapy though.. and a whole lot of luck in order not to become them.
Maybe the strongest statement this movie got right.. it takes more than being a victim to become a survivor. It takes change, and that takes effort, consciousness.. and yeah.. also luck..
Meanwhile.. the PTSD lasts forever.
My father was created by trauma into the broken person he became.
My mother was the woman willing to start her life over and be a divorced and grieving mother to her children. Imperfect but our mom.
The difference is in who they made their choices for.
I ended up in a place where I was abused after. I went to the police. Both my father and his father ended up in prison for what they did.. and I know better than most how easily I could have become them.
I didn't because I wanted a better future than my own past, and not just for myself.
My father has been out of prison for years now. He always follows the same pattern. He finds a woman who likes him, he gets her pregnant as soon as possible. He proposes to marry, and maybe they do.. but when they find out what happened to my mother, she takes the kid and leaves.. rightly so..
Why? Because in the decades between then and now he has changed very little about himself. He is still an impulsive and at heart deeply pessimistic man. Hope takes courage. He is still capable of the same violence and rage that ruined his own life as well as (or possibly more than) ours.
Empathy reaches outwards and eventually.. we learn we ourselves shouldn't be exceptions to our own empathy.
We heal.
He was turned inwards instead. There are many reasons for that. Not all of those are his fault.. but he couldn't look past himself and his own needs. No one else did, and he never grew from that almost childlike self centered state into mental maturity.
We are all capable of horrible things. The will to not do them has to be found within us as well. Within love. Enough so it overrides the purely egocentric.
It is also what is never addressed in this movie/story. The change is nothing but a surface veneer. True change comes from the inside out by taking ourselves out of the middle of it all..
In many ways, I see him as a man who never survived his own childhood, even though he is alive.
I can only forgive him for my portion of the pain he has inflicted, and I have. I'll never stop missing my mother. The anger and my own pain isn't gone. I live with the fear and the loss and the grief his actions brought me. I live with PTSD.. but I honestly wish he'd go into therapy, and start his own journey healing.. because seeing him just act out the same pattern of what happened before, over and over.. it makes me sad.. My mother loved him once. I wish he'd remember that, and honor it by changing.. by the same kind of introspection we had to go through to get to where we are..
I have a staggering amount of half siblings from his side.. all of them without a father. We're better off.. but I wish for a time when that is no longer true.. and call me an optimist (which I know I definitely am) but I still think he can get to that point where maybe he won't have a wife or kids, but can finally just live with himself..
I know it is possible because I have lived it. I wish he'd find a good therapist, go into therapy, and not hold anything back.
The worst judgement we face is usually our own. That self judgement is toxic though.. and drives us to more violence instead of towards self acceptance..
Self acceptance is the very first step towards healing.. healing is what allows us to love people.. and let them love us back without hiding anything of ourselves.. it breaks the cycle.
It's not about making up with a few dozen fatherless kids or their mothers and families.. it's not about trying to trap people to stay with you.. it's in preferring to be by the side of someone you love.. in good days and bad ones.. it's not about sharing a bed, or even a home, or every day.. it's about sharing our time and our hearts.. even or maybe especially as "just friends"..
Making that connection is what he has sought for all his life and never fully found.. I know he tried to find it, life happens.. it is never easy. Not for anyone.. but I hope everyone finds that, and that includes him..
40+ years, a lot of therapy, more bad days, and optimism..
Because in the end the pessimistic people get to say "I told you so" but meanwhile the optimistic people in the world live a better life..
We die only once. Of all the times we think "I'm not going to make it" only one single time will we be right. The rest of the time, we will be wrong.. so stop listening to the toxicity of pessimism and try again.
I'm not "special", I'm normal.. ordinary.. some things I'm good at, many things I'm not. That's okay.. actually it's really good because it can take some of the stress off when we take ourselves a little too seriously..
it also means that anyone can do what I have though, and that it is worth trying again if you tried and failed..
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I wish all people the happiness and peace and wholeness I had to fight to find within myself, and none of the bad hair days ;)
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EDIT: P.S. clearly Nietzsche and I disagree yet again... 😂
Being strong enough to be gentle means taking a stand and having a backbone per definition.
The reasons for incarceration should be to stop violence. No punishment ever fits what we have lost. It never can. It's not about that once the most accure rage fades and we begin to heal and see the people who hurt us as they actually are again. Some people *are* too dangerous to be free. In such cases, they shouldn't be.
My grief is not a blank check though. People don't get to use it to add even more needless suffering to people's lives. Anyone's. Even those who would never extend it to others "deserve" to be treated humanely.. because it isn't something any of us "earn"..
It's not a bank account..
Human rights include all human beings. Humane treatment should apply to any life that touches our own.. not because of who those lives belong to or not.. but because we are human beings.
Fear and rage are great alarm clocks, but generally bad advisors..
“Oh no! The consequences of my actions!” - Alex when the people he hurt enact justice
Mr. Oblivious here, thanks for helping me to become less so.
A question the film raised for me is "how long until everyone, except the ruling class and their enforcers are given "the treatment?"
A non violent populace, is a populace that cannot rebel. Even to attempt non-violent protest, the threat of violence could disrupt a political demonstration. Making opposition to authority impossible.
Is there a way out ?
What's done in prisons today? Prisoners, especially the mentally ill (since we closed our asylums in the 1980s) are kept locked up under chemical restraint.
CS Lewis had some very compelling things to say about treatment vs. punishment. When punishment is over, it's over. But treatment continues indefinitely, until one is "cured."
When Alex is recovering he tells the psychologist that while he was unconscious he felt as if someone was tinkering inside his head.
00:20 No, no, no, you have to change this, he is not a "mechanical fruit," but an "orang." During the war, Burges served in the Malaya, where the word "orang" means "a man." It therefore entered the Nadsat vocabulary.
3:38 this kinda conditioning has happened in my town to young children with no crimnal record, just because the public school did not want to deal with kids who were differemt or asked too many questions
Indeed. It is quite common.
I’m ready For the Barry Lyndon!!!
It is Ultamately our Free Will and ability to reason that makes Humanity Special.
It is our ability to Comprehend the world and situations surrounding us that makes us Human.
Humanity in itself is Devine. Needless of a God. Humanity is Sacred, and it should be sacred to you on the simple basis that your Human yourself.
Never should a single Human be restricted from their own self determined Will, never should one restrict, impeed, hinder or snuff out the Free Will of another.
RUclips needs more content like this. It's refreshing, like cool water on a hot day, or like the silence after some drunk moron who's been yammering on at you for six hours about cryptocurrency or golf finally passes out and topples over onto the floor. It's truly puzzling that you only have 57k subscribers. In any case, I look forward to your future contributions. Good luck and Godspeed, my friend.
You're too kind-thank you!
Morality and the debate of right and wrong. Some people would believe something is right and other believe that same thing is wrong. The debate will last a lifetime, but the reality is things/actions are either good or bad. And who ever believes a evil is good or a good is evil is wrong. It’s just getting someone to see truth is the difficult when they believe they are moral. Are more wrongs committed under the idea of being good then wrongs committed for the notion that they are wrong?
Kubrick was a pure genius!
27:34 Those rattan chairs tho
The crime of having taken away Alex's ability to defend himself from criminals seems to be missing here.
Not bad! I got a lot out of this beautiful and thoughtful discussion.
6:38 I think George Orwell's Room 101 puts this assertion to rest, although admittedly human beings are spiritually wrecked in the process.
24:24 - The fall did not reverse his conditioning, the state did. They even make the big show at the end to demonstrate that point. It's unclear, but it seemed to be some kind of surgical procedure because his head is wrapped up as it would be after brain surgery.
We as a whole are literally Engineering the Humanity out of ourselves. We are so fallible 😮we cannot see the forest before the trees???
Also Ive been pre-shown more torment in my future.
Did RUclips remove my right to join channels is this even a thing? Can they do that to the public? What a waste of a company.
Isnt this what they trying to do with Jordan Peterson
I am sure you will get to the shining in time but I want to give you my view on it. Each character is an archetype or a symbolic representation of a dysfunctional family. They drunken emotionally stunted father. to the mother who is powerless and emotional in her own right, unable to even protect her child. And a emotionaly and possibly sexually abused child seeing his gods act in ways he can't comprehend. The shifts of tonality thoughout the movie as well as the actual physical items shifting is symbolic of the view points shifting between each character as well, is to encourage the constant state of discomfort and disorder that comes with these people. If you look at the movie through this lense it makes a lot of sense. And it is often the realistic relatable horrors that create the longest lasting and impacting scares. And the movie ends with a picture of Jack who as an abuse father has always been there in society and sadly will be there one day again.
There are MANY layers of the Shining, indeed. Hard to pinpoint just one angle to analyze.
Love the video, especially the use of the Detroit: Become Human soundtrack in the background.
With hindsight, I feel the film was delivering a stark warning of the shape of things to come. The moral relativism promulgated by the cultural marxist's via the 'long march' through the institutions being illustrated by the brutalist architecture and the scientism of Alex's therapy. The vindictiveness of the left wing writer is presciently mimetic of the modern progressive woke virtue signaller, for even the smallest deviation from their inculcated ideology, whilst the priest seems to represent an anachronistic remnant of the morals and ethics of the previous 2,000 years. Indeed the finer points of both Stoicism and Christianity are negated through the universal lack of forgiveness that is displayed. Dystopian for sure, but a reminder for those that are still able to chose: Even in a world where there are so many bad people, chose to be good.
We have been there for a long time. Rockefeller & Dewey created the American education system specifically to "create cogs in the wheel of society".
Rockefeller & Dewey created the US education system by using the philosophy of Hegel & Wundt. The same two men to whom Marx & Trotsky used to create Communism! Hegel wrote that he was fearful of the educated man!
In their own words, an education system must dumb down the population and "to create a passive society of people who merely act as cogs in the wheel of society"
Thus, Americans are NOT critical thinkers - They just "go along". That is why the nation is completely & utterly Bankrupt. According to the CBO and IMF in 2011, the current US Federal Debt is 211 Trillion!
Removing critical thinking from education was simple & genius!
In summary, the Western Education system is not education at all. But rather a system of social conditioning!
Interesting piece: How John Dewey Used Public ‘Education’ to Subvert Liberty
illinoisfamily.org/education/how-john-dewey-used-public-education-to-subvert-liberty/?fbclid=IwAR2FLkcmnak6pcFggRlJBlzA6hsAcYhSDoxVR8556GZ7-d5yJCRpBczNOAI
@@markhuntermd Yes! interesting link detailing the genesis of the 'Know nothing's'.
The difference between a serial killer and a saint is environment. That’s a very hard thing to accept because that raises a lot of questions.
Nurture v/s nature is still up for debate, there’s plenty of disenfranchised people who rise above their circumstance without embracing criminality.
"Rising above" is still up for debate also.
@@Red-Cloud69 Most serial killers have some form of brain damage, so technically they don't really have free will. I'm not saying we should let them go free.
Think it was a CNN poll, was asked, would you trade your freedom for security, 80% said yes, this was only asked last year.
Although Alex was chemically lobotomised by the state his real personality was protected in deeper layers of his brain and eventually rose back to the surface to restore him to his former state.
Great Video very insightful !!!
The moral theologians at the catholic university I attended recommended we watch ACO on movie night. Considering the mockery of the chaplain and the dancing Jesus montage, I thought it was big of them. Indeed it explores many knotty issues of moral theology, and comes to no favorable conclusions.
Newly proposed legislation would allow those incarcerated in Massachusetts to donate organs and bone marrow for sentence reductions!
It gets worse and worse.
I'm a bit of a dullard, I felt these ideas and themes watching the movies, but I never knew it or had them fleshed out so well before.
Alex kicking the coke bottle across the very dusty casino floor was telling.
Next bottle is kicked outside a not fit for purpose human lifting device
Fascinating. I've never sat through A Clockwork Orange as it never appealed to me. I might now do so.
Edit. Your Nietzche reference is something I have heard from activists recently, suggesting that punishing criminals is amoral and that we should instead seek to address the societal issues that lead people into criminal activity.
Personally, I think that position is dangerous. People have freedom of choice, and are able to choose to behave well or badly. Removing that freedom seems to me to be a dangerous path to follow. While it would eradicate crime, in theory, it would also eradicate freedom. We would end up living in Demolition Man world, which by the way, you would do well to review!
Punishment is not improving the criminal stats for the Americans. Already they house 30% of the world's prisoners and histories largest collection of children prisoners.
To be sure, the USA will need better solutions than prisons, punishment and bombs. It will have to intellectualize itself out of these ever-growing problems. The entire culture has become sick: collectively suffering from a broken soul.
I don't see the two things as either/or: a civilized society should pursue the best possible social and economical justice, so that everyone has access to a dignified life and the socio-economic breeding ground for crime is removed. At that point, but only at that point, when crime really becomes a choice, it can be punished in an exemplary and deterring way. Then the punishment will be really for the common good, and not just for the protection of economical and political privileges, as it is in most societies today.
@@musamusashi Commies, gotta love their cluelessness.
@@marioarguello6989 just like believers in trickle down fairy tale must love theirs, i guess. But why are you telling me this?
Good old Rob Ager did a video on "Why the Ludovico therapy did not work". I am about 75/25 leaning his arguments.
Sometimes it hurts my eyes and gives me headaches.
25:56 Nietzsche
And ' shepherds of human nature' i like, vs rwentieth century view in psych that anything can be learned
Can you put this in a playlist on your channel
It should be in the playlist called "Film │Thinking About Movies." Let me know if it doesn't show up.
@@EmpireoftheMind I see it
Great videos, thank you for being an intellectual voice and showing that everyone worships something, if your God isn’t a theological god it might be Beethoven or the government or the status quo.
Very good point of view.
What is the penitentiary if not dehumanizing?
I think an interesting parallel example of something similar happeneing now are aversion drugs prescribed for substance abuse, like that pill that makes a person sick when they drink alcohol, or that implant that makes opiates ineffective. Substance abuse is a compulsion that is an emotional problem, a problem of the will, to use the terms you do in the video. The aversive drugs do nothing to address that compulsion, or most of the behaviour associated with the emotional problems attendant. But institutions prescribe these treatmetns as a solution, to willing, though perhaps not fully informed, individuals and pretend that it is a solution. When it's not. The real circumstances and the emotional alienation that gives rise to substance abuse on the scale that it exists today is a characteristic of the modern society that we have created, and the solution, if we want one, has to lie in changing that society. But no one really wants to do that....
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Nietzsche is here following Robespierre and his master Beccaria.
I would say, since crimes are different, punishments should be different.
When a punishment that's not death or prison for life has been served, liberty should be restored.
I wonder who is doing this to me and why?
we know the meaning. its also about how certain male youths / young men just wanna be bad / naughty, be and a gang of 'very naughty buys' and break the law , be violent, etc, the rolling stones becamse famous around the same time the book came out, part of their 'a gang of bad boys' shtick was modeled on the droogs. so many of us when we were young were badly behaved, usually thankfully nowhere near as bad as the droogs, obviously. but stuff like smoking ciggys / boozing, getting in a fist fight or two, other low level petty crime- eg vandalism , drining and driving. alex doesnt coem from a horrible abusive family situation, he just wants to act out and be tough, i assume the whole bad boy thing is an immature attempt to prove bravery and toughness in a way. this is why its good to get young men and boys to play physically violent sports such as rugby instead.
What's so beneficial about tackle rugby? Do you like the idea of potentially getting a brain injury?
@@lukeaustin4465 you sound exactly like the kind of wimpy coward who would directly benefit from playing rugby / being in a rugby team.
@19:10 there is a concept in psychology called informed consent, this is not mere consent, this is consent given after being told the exact nature of the procedure for treatment, it's exact purpose, what if any drugs would be administered, their intended effects, possible side effects, possible dangers and side effects from the entire treatment regimen, information about confidentiality and disclosure of any identifying information for the individual being studied. Like many of the concepts that you gloss over that are attached to psychology or medicine this analysis is paper thin as it rests upon a misunderstanding of what consent in this situation is.
Yes; this is like the abortion issue. When is ok to kill another life? The death penalty and abortion are 2 issues that warrant this type of debate.
18:30 it is the greatest good man can hope to achieve, to better themselves and not stay stagnant, advancing technology is the only good worth pursuing
is t the dehumanisation of human beings? Or is it the humanising of wild beasts?
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They've been doing experiments like this since the fifties my grandma was done like this in the sixties
Reminds me of the pschotic TV I have to bear daily! B
The highest morality is effectiveness
can you make a bladerunner video essay?
But sorry, in the end Alex is not reconditioned by the fall of the attempted suicide.
When Alex is hospitalized he talks to the Doctor about a recurring dream he is having, in which numerous doctors are around him and work with his "Gulliver". The reference is to a more sophisticated conditioning technique that operates in the waking state.
In fact, when the Doctor carries out the test with the slides, no one notices that Alex has regained his violence and aggression but not his sexuality.
All the slides present simple, non-explicit drawings of interactions between individuals, in which Alex "freely" adds aggression and violence, the only slide that contains explicit content is number 3 (naked woman) and Alex replies that he doesn't have time to have sex and have to work. (?????)
Applied to 2023:
televisions and cell phones actually lead us into a state of wakefulness, a state in which it is possible to effect effective conditioning through contents, which are for the most part increasingly explicit and sexualised.
The result apparently of this process is in fact a sort of environmental castration which today is manifested in sexual recession, the systematic crisis of relational and sentimental relationships which are increasingly produced in violent interactions. Furthermore, the subjects are infantilized (Alex being fed by the prime minister). Today we are witnessing this ridiculous contrast between males and females reduced to a childish issue for kindergarten children (LGBT etc etc)
As if democratic power cannot make aggressive conditioning public but is forced by its needs to use it anyway, in a slower and more subtle way, simulating a sort of natural process.Scary.
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Cubrik also inserted a sly subtext about nazism and the eu.
Perfect
Choice is available only to owners of property.
The answer to all these dilemmas is in Biblical Theonomy. Greg Bahnsen, RC Sproul, Gary Demar are 3 good writers to start.
You'd want to return to burning witches?
I never realised RC Sproul was an theonomist.
Haven't made up my mind about Theonomy yet, but I do love me some RC Sproul-wishing he was still here.
The burning of witches has been greatly exaggerated. Of the witches put on trial and in deed burned much was fueled by superstition, vengeance and manipulation of bad actors and thus was checked by other Christians and put a stop to it.
But to play a little devils advocate, say you got a real witchcraft problem. Certainly some measure of punnishment to a real witch is better than allowing it to continue. Contrary to modern popular culture, witchcraft is in deed evil so the fear that Theonomy would criminalize it doesn't bother me though I can see why it would bother a witch. Oh and the criminalization of extortion bothers extortionists and the criminalization of rape bothers rapists and the pedos of this world really can't understand why pedophilia is a crime.
Ross, your fearmonger Strawman is thus rejected out of hand.
@@YTTraveler777 No straw man here, but a Baptist, yes, and one who holds to separation of church and state, otherwise my Presbyterians friend tend to drown Baptists over a doctrine they can't find in the scriptures.
Let's take your witchcraft analogy and dissect it to prove theonomy is unworkable and alien to new covenant theology.
Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft (1 Samuel 15:23) and I'm sure you'll agree than man is born in rebellion against his creator (Romans 8:7). To be consistent against witchcraft you are going to kill a lot of children, perhaps even your own.
My argument is not a straw man, but yours is a slippery slope for sure.
Vengeance is mine saith The Lord, I will repay.
6:19 - While you're correct here, you're missing a HUGE supporting point. Alex was faking his response to treatment. He never got ill. He can belch on command. Rewatch it with the idea of Alex faking it and you'll see.
The point being that they can't change his thoughts OR actions.
No, the technique worked. They conditioned his body physically. That’s why he tried to snuff it at the end. The head trauma from jumping out the window reverts him back to his natural-self. What are you talking about
@Joe Anthony Alex manipulates the situation to get out of prison. The prison is being emptied to make space for political prisoners (the government is authoritarian). Alex's actions are to further an advancement within his system. In the way his droogs are now police, he as a leader, will become the tool of the political class (used to oppress the people). Watch it again. There is a lot of symbolism you missed.
Note that the politician CHOOSES Alex directly after he sees what a great liar he is. The politican even says "excellent." One of the original posters for the movie show Alex with fake teeth in front of his mouth (he is false-mouthed).
Modern day ideas, like feminism, are the most anti-human and anti-intellectual things ever, even though they claim the opposite. I've been collecting old movies with a message for a long time. It's tragic how people these days watch these powerful old movies and all they do is get offended. They take whatever the movie is saying and spit in its face and insult your intelligence. People are so feminine these days. So fast to judge what's on the surface. Their eye gets rubbed the wrong way for even a second, just an image, and they just get triggered and reject you. It was a shocker back in the day but now you can lose all your friends if you like these kinds of movies. Can't help seeing it as Clockwork Orange breaking the third wall. We got people in the world so brainwashed by modern ideas when they see a movie like this they go through what Alex went through after his brainwashing. The defense mechanisms go, the mental filters, the programming, and they get sick and violently emotional. No self-control, no tolerance, even though they tell you their programming made them more tolerant than you. They call you the sick and emotionally violent one. An old shocker with a message is enough to have them on the ground holding their ears and screaming in agony. Just sad. Modern day things lack discipline and wisdom, and people are programmed to reject anything old with a heart and soul.
Feminism in and of itself is hardly “anti-human.” It’s the imposition or manipulation of ideologies that makes them dangerous; trying to force people into certain beliefs or practices is when the trouble starts.
Indeed, many hard-hearted folks nowadays. Very sad.
@@joeanthony7759 It is anti-human. Wants you scared and confused and sucking on a pacifier. I don't care if you have a pretty idea of it in your head, all that matters is reality. I also defi9ne people by what they are, not what they want to be or claim to be.
@@tommyhatcher3399 As someone who's on the autism spectrum, I occasionally need a moment to collect myself when I get triggered. This results in what I call "mental spasms". However, I never tell anybody to stop saying or doing things that activate these mental triggers. Sometimes, they activate due to my own thoughts, not because of any outside stimuli, so I can't blame anybody else for triggering them by accident. I just want them to give me a moment to recover, then move on like nothing happened. My autism is my own problem, not anybody else's and there are some aspects of it that I wouldn't trade for the world, such as logical thinking and the ability to hyper-focus when I'm passionate.
@@tomnorton4277 Oh, buddy, triggered means a million things these days, like the word toxic. As an actual mental health term, I'm not even touching that. Some people just abuse the word, like Twitter clowns who get a comment they didn't agree with and claim PTSD. I should've put triggered in quotation marks, but if I start with triggered I might as well put all words in quotation marks.
0:18 But it didn't work... the process failed.
"I was cured all right."
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The Padre ought to read the Bible he holds.
Goodness is not within man.
Mark chapter
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
Man cannot be rehabilitated, we must be regenerated.
YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN
BORN OF THE SPIRIT
Mechanical fruit. Lol.
All hail the algorithm
It wasn't the fall. They reprogrammed him.
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I hate the rape scene.cutting her cloths while the degenerate is singing.Vial.But like all kubrick films he puts things in.like the word adrenachrome on the milk bar wall and the basically mk ultra.Things leople still secretly discuss or call it conspirocy.
no man i don't share your views, i rather have them experiment than being afraid and do nothing, WW2 nazi scientists were monsters but thanks to them transplants are now possible, there's always good and bad things about everything, so don't be afraid of the future of science.
So the ends justifies the means ? Woe unto us and our children
@@hungsolow7090 you and your children belong in this world, wish all you want, in the end, you'll have no say on this
Great video as always. I'm curious if you felt the final chapter in A Clockwork Orange (the piece that was missing from the American release of the book as well as Kubrick's film) really adds or detracts from the theme which we were presented with. I felt the final chapter does shape the takeaway of the story a bit differently from what we were left with, with the American version and the film.
Really solid video essay which raises lots of interesting questions.
Free-will vs determinism was one of Burgess' pet topics - from Pelagius vs Augustine to modernity - and the Irish chaplain, for all his flaws, is the moral backbone of both book and film.
btw - Burgess was a teacher in post WW II Malaya, where in the native language 'Orang' is 'man'
Interesting-didn't know that...
How much "free will" does any man have if he cannot control his inner drives, compulsions - He cannot understand his unconscious mind or integrate it.
Also related to orangutan, the biological organism, with all its juices--both sweet and bitter....
Yes, as in the Malay phrase "orang utan:" literally, "old man of the forest." Like his literary hero Joyce, Burgess was a word-obsessed polyglot. His marriage of English to Russian in the novel is nothing short of brilliant ... Right right right, O my brother?
@@charlesspissu4647 real horrorshow
All the "Clockwork Orange" videos are excellent in this channel. Great analysis and insight.
Sadly, we are still living through the aftermath of the havoc wrought by the Behaviourists.
this video reminds me of the of a docuessay I watched like 5 years ago about the breakdown of the state mental asylum system in the US with the almost simultaneous assault by narrative farming journalists. I really wish I could find it again.
I have seen some excellent asylums in Europe and parts of Asia. Today in the USA, out-patient mental health care consists solely of prescribing Xanax; atypical antipsychotic drugs (SGAs) like Risperdal, Zyprexa, Seroquel, Geodon and Abilify; and, serotonin-dopamine activity modulators (SDAMs) [aka chemical lobotomies]. Over time the Xanax causes enormous swaths of brain tissue to die, (it acts as a tourniquet - eventually leading to cell death - most countries ban long-term use); and, the SGAs & SDAMs cause akathisia & Extrapyramidal Side-Effects (EPS). EPS means the patient develops all host of facial and motor tics, Parkinsonian like deficits, etc. [Don't worry! It's terrific profit for the drug companies!]
For those that can't afford the drugs or afford access to doctors, (eg, In the USA Xanax is marked up over 30,000% higher than its international generic equivalent - Alprazolam), many have learned to import the generic powder by the kilogram from China, and press their own pills to sell on the black market. In addition to street Xanax, those suffering various forms of mental illness have frequently found respite by abusing alcohol, opioids and narcotics.
Unfortunately, the USA no longer seems to have many in-patient facilities. By the late 1980s, in-patient franchises like Charter Hospital were popping up all over the USA. Greed is Good - These in-patient franchises were charging tens of thousands of dollars per week for in-patient care (doping). Insurance companies lobbied (bribed - its legal) politicians to shut down in-patient facilities - like the Charter Hospital franchise - by around 2005. Therefore, in the USA, in-patient care is limited to the private corporate prison system.
You can still find some highly profitable in-patient facilities: eg., so-called Residential Inpatient Treatment Centers. Once again - Greed lubricates the wheels of the machine (bribery of local government). Local police agencies are paid to have their officers involuntarily commit people to the local Residential Inpatient Treatment Center. Once in, the patient is trapped and bills rack up. Myself and another physician fought for almost three weeks to get someone wrongly committed to the Montgomery Co. (Maryland) in-patient facility. They were wrongly committed to generate revenue. The police committed the person without cause. In-patient involuntary commitments are supposed to be a max. of 72 hours; whereupon they are to be given access to a judge. The other physician with me on this matter was the persons primary care physician. We kept trying to get a court hearing. Montgomery Co. responded with a barrage of court hearing date resets at the last minute. Finally we got the patient in front of a judge - solely due to good luck. We managed to schedule a hearing in front of a sympathetic judge so suddenly that Montgomery Co. had no time to react. You may ask, "What about a lawsuit? Criminal proceedings?" WRONG! The local government is in on it; so there will be no criminal charges. We couldn't find any Maryland attorney to take the case - Seems they were all working to one degree or another for the Montgomery Co. treatment center. The attorney's told us they had to decline because, "Montgomery Co. (treatment facility) was their client". [I had the same experience in Florida regarding a personal injury matter relating to Disney. It seemed all the workman comp lawyers in the State got money from Disney.] Finally, I found legal counsel in NYC. But by then the victim had enough. She just wanted to get past it all. I don't blame her.
Mental illness certainly has not gone away in the USA. To be sure, the ranks of the mentally ill have vastly expanded. Greed is Good. The pharmaceutical companies and mental health institutions have a specific duty to serve their shareholders - not the patients. If people can't afford the pricy insurance, they have to seek remedies "on the street". Frequently, they are simply processed into the corporate private prison industry like energy chattel. It's all good if you simply signup and join the gravy train!