John McDonnell calls out the UK’s complicity in Israeli war crimes in Commons speech

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  • Labour's John McDonnell raised a point of order in the House after a debate on Gaza, where he noted that the UK is still sending arms to Israel after the ICJ ordered the Israeli government to ensure that a genocide was not being committed in Gaza.
    McDonnell asked for the Speaker to provide legal advice to MPs as to how they should conduct future debates on Israel with this in mind.
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  • @K4rmaRules
    @K4rmaRules 6 месяцев назад +202

    That speaker can barely string a sentence together, let alone understand what Mr McDonnell is rightly asking.

    • @Stefan_W69
      @Stefan_W69 6 месяцев назад +6

      Yes that is indeed shocking for a "speaker", sheeesh.

    • @scalarnai
      @scalarnai 6 месяцев назад +6

      😂😂😂 clueless too

    • @HelenaMikas
      @HelenaMikas 6 месяцев назад +2

      Westminster and Parliament in the hands of two hopeless speakers ONE MORE GO !!!!!! is she fit to be there NO

    • @collier8931
      @collier8931 6 месяцев назад +2

      She did the dentist contract debacle.

    • @holycannoli64
      @holycannoli64 6 месяцев назад +1

      She's clueless. Like most of the house.

  • @suecole7338
    @suecole7338 6 месяцев назад +117

    John McDonnell is quite right in seeking independent legal advice and that it should be sought by the Speaker on their behalf.

    • @Towertrips
      @Towertrips 6 месяцев назад +2

      If it’s important, a grown up will ask for it

    • @alexgaras1573
      @alexgaras1573 6 месяцев назад +1

      I agree, but I will say it is far to late for that. They are already balls deep in this genocide, and it looks like they are trying to f***k their way out of it. They will all be charged individually and they won't get away with it, because their pocket legal system will be on trial alongside them.

  • @foloeel
    @foloeel 6 месяцев назад +195

    She's clueless.

    • @BetyarPali
      @BetyarPali 6 месяцев назад

      She is likely on Israel's payroll.

    • @scalarnai
      @scalarnai 6 месяцев назад +5

      Exactly what I thought, fumbling about utterly clueless.

    • @johnj4860
      @johnj4860 6 месяцев назад

      Keep in mind McDonnel is a supporter of Jeremy the terrorists friend?

    • @burtlangoustine1
      @burtlangoustine1 6 месяцев назад

      She? I thought it was the pimlico plumbers bloke...

    • @auntiesemite9295
      @auntiesemite9295 6 месяцев назад +1

      INTENTIONALLY clueless.

  • @janwallace5005
    @janwallace5005 6 месяцев назад +118

    Asking the government to clarify their legal position on arms sales to Israel is like asking kids to mark their own home work.

    • @billyandrew
      @billyandrew 6 месяцев назад +1

      The kids would be more honest.

    • @denisewan1121
      @denisewan1121 5 месяцев назад

      @ billyandrew: The kids might not know the true facts, but the government does, and ignores them. Same goes for the leadership of the supposed "opposition."

  • @PoppaKrunch
    @PoppaKrunch 6 месяцев назад +120

    A speaker who cant string a sentence together without 50 uhm's...perfectly sums up the situation

  • @Lighteningspirit
    @Lighteningspirit 6 месяцев назад +94

    Absolute incompetence...the mother of all parliaments is a fool

    • @xXDeathbysnusnuXx
      @xXDeathbysnusnuXx 6 месяцев назад +4

      Bought and paid off.

    • @fahimyasin6511
      @fahimyasin6511 6 месяцев назад +4

      It is not incompetence. It is corruption

    • @petronellaflorenca4920
      @petronellaflorenca4920 6 месяцев назад +1

      Corrupt woman 😅😅😅😅😅its a jokes shamefull she is6😢😮

    • @Demun1649
      @Demun1649 6 месяцев назад +1

      We need a new Oliver Cromwell. Scrap the monarchy, the monarchist Parliament, and re-establish the Republic we enjoyed for 11 years back in the 1600s.

  • @SusanScarrott
    @SusanScarrott 6 месяцев назад +330

    She doesn't appear to be aware of the International Court of Justice

    • @johnpullen3729
      @johnpullen3729 6 месяцев назад +18

      She called it ICG, In stead of ICJ...

    • @MonsurAlam-pp3gi
      @MonsurAlam-pp3gi 6 месяцев назад

      Israeli criminal Gang

    • @andrewhamilton6677
      @andrewhamilton6677 6 месяцев назад +19

      She doesn't appear to be aware of much to be honest

    • @KathyBurton-o3v
      @KathyBurton-o3v 6 месяцев назад +7

      None of them know very much!!!

    • @markchapman9086
      @markchapman9086 6 месяцев назад +2

      Which determined absolutely nothing

  • @simonwyndham
    @simonwyndham 6 месяцев назад +452

    The deputy speaker is as hopeless as the main speaker!

    • @colinsixhitter3303
      @colinsixhitter3303 6 месяцев назад

      She took legal advice from one of the criminals enabling genocide and is not going to get legal independent advice PURPOSELY.

    • @PaulineLittlewood
      @PaulineLittlewood 6 месяцев назад

      She had no control, just total chaos when Labour hijacked the ceasefire vote.

  • @emmacharliehth5011
    @emmacharliehth5011 6 месяцев назад +81

    How is parliament meant to run effectively and efficiently when we have a speaker and deputy speaker like this? They’re more useless than a chocolate teapot.

  • @orwellianyoutube8978
    @orwellianyoutube8978 6 месяцев назад +73

    this is so embarrassing

  • @cutemax007
    @cutemax007 6 месяцев назад +37

    A big applause to the MP raising much needed review of both law and legality of arms sales in a matter that has already been considered as a "Plausible Genocide" by the highest court on earth.

  • @jermaineh7894
    @jermaineh7894 6 месяцев назад +34

    MR John McDonell is a man with a good heart. God bless you!!!

  • @djf1925
    @djf1925 6 месяцев назад +126

    Where is everybody???? And the deputy speaker is appalling

    • @minskysfeedbackyianni1302
      @minskysfeedbackyianni1302 6 месяцев назад +7

      @djf1925 They're probably off doing their second/third/fourth jobs, the ones they weren't elected for!

    • @kevinsmarts9953
      @kevinsmarts9953 6 месяцев назад +1

      The chamber is often quite empty as MPs have other duties such as those in their constituencies and various committees. You only see it full for votes and PMQs.

    • @bluedragon13063
      @bluedragon13063 6 месяцев назад +6

      Down the pub laughing at us mugs

    • @stevenpaulgoulding
      @stevenpaulgoulding 6 месяцев назад +1

      We need a Betty Boothroyd type speaker.

  • @naziirani2773
    @naziirani2773 6 месяцев назад +39

    Thank you, John McDonnell, for standing for justice!!

  • @RobertRedford77
    @RobertRedford77 6 месяцев назад +150

    She can't even string a simple sentence in English. Unbelievable.

    • @T-r5t
      @T-r5t 6 месяцев назад +12

      that's what happens when you lie

    • @RockyRumbles
      @RockyRumbles 6 месяцев назад

      What the hell is going on? You all call this deomcracy? You want the police the world and tell them to live in a democracy but before our very eyes we can see deomcracy is an hypocrisy here!!!

    • @BetyarPali
      @BetyarPali 6 месяцев назад +4

      I'm not a native English speaker, but even I can speak better English than that woman.

    • @paulbyrne7015
      @paulbyrne7015 6 месяцев назад +2

      "Obviously" & "ummm" is all I could hear...pathetic...

  • @dave07drummer
    @dave07drummer 6 месяцев назад +218

    Deputy speaker needs to leave that i$ra£l lobby group as does the speaker.

    • @mikeable100
      @mikeable100 6 месяцев назад +16

      the speakers father was one of the co-founders of labour friends of Israel

  • @oldsunshine1505
    @oldsunshine1505 6 месяцев назад +101

    She referred to the International Court of Justice as"ICG"! Appalling ignorance for a deputy speaker no less.

  • @jeremyhendersonphotography
    @jeremyhendersonphotography 6 месяцев назад +219

    She always tries to shirk her responsibillities

  • @keithreynolds
    @keithreynolds 6 месяцев назад +116

    Does the Deputy Speaker just not understand the point?

    • @davidsmith5523
      @davidsmith5523 6 месяцев назад +19

      She seeks to avoid accountability.

    • @michaelmilnes8168
      @michaelmilnes8168 6 месяцев назад

      Sadly, I think she does, and this pathetic wriggling is the best she can do. Isn't it pathetic.

    • @kobss
      @kobss 6 месяцев назад +4

      It doesn’t seem so , no.

  • @MAHMED-s6h
    @MAHMED-s6h 6 месяцев назад +53

    The speakers in parliament seem to be biased.
    That is undemocratic

  • @janewright2800
    @janewright2800 6 месяцев назад +28

    Thanks for trying John!!!

  • @Pot-8-Toes
    @Pot-8-Toes 6 месяцев назад +99

    Maybe John should get legal advice and issue a warrant for the government’s arrest.

    • @thecat5497
      @thecat5497 6 месяцев назад +4

      😂that's the way to go. Seek your own legal advice. Trying to convince these puppets is hopeless. You just going to go around in square circles.

    • @Juniper-d5b
      @Juniper-d5b 6 месяцев назад +7

      To a system that doesn't deal in justice, only revenue and protection rackets

    • @gabydewilde
      @gabydewilde 6 месяцев назад

      if only to see them squirm some more.

  • @BosskV2
    @BosskV2 6 месяцев назад +42

    Its sounds like the speaker doesn't know her own job...

  • @JohnLloydDavis
    @JohnLloydDavis 6 месяцев назад +185

    The minister says it's legal so let's move on. A bit like racism then.

    • @Stewart2240
      @Stewart2240 6 месяцев назад +16

      Or Rwanda.

    • @RankinMsP
      @RankinMsP 6 месяцев назад +3

      Have Israel apologised though?
      Apparently if it's gone on for over a week, 'we should move on'. 😐

    • @SalvageMasterEssex
      @SalvageMasterEssex 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@RankinMsP Why should Israel apologise for anything. They never started the war the Hamas terrorists did.

    • @malungisamaseko3155
      @malungisamaseko3155 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@SalvageMasterEssexThey did since decade's ago. A little bit of research will tell you the war was going on even before October 7

  • @jamespires3383
    @jamespires3383 6 месяцев назад +39

    F***ing hell did she really just say ICG? Do you even know what's being talked about Madame deputy speaker?

  • @carolbriselden3166
    @carolbriselden3166 6 месяцев назад +77

    Well said John

  • @minskysfeedbackyianni1302
    @minskysfeedbackyianni1302 6 месяцев назад +36

    Good lord! This woman couldn't be trusted to make the best judgement as a lollipop lady, never mind as a parliamentary speaker!

  • @AliceWatts-d3v
    @AliceWatts-d3v 6 месяцев назад +34

    Great to see John McDonnell standing for democracy & what the World believes. Rubbish standards of Speakership’s. Completely sold out & not up to par

  • @SamHarrisonMusic
    @SamHarrisonMusic 6 месяцев назад +348

    John is brilliant, and a lovely man too. Nice one for him for attacking parliaments complicity in war crimes, I’d agree with him.

    • @angusgus123
      @angusgus123 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yet John was perfectly ok with delivering speeches in front of Baathist flags from Syria and Iraq in Trafalgar Square - just prior to him and JC delivering the Tories a historic majority

    • @davidsmith5523
      @davidsmith5523 6 месяцев назад +22

      ​@@angusgus123Irrelevant because he is correct here today.

    • @dianeglanville
      @dianeglanville 6 месяцев назад +12

      Well said John love this man the speaker is useless

    • @Towertrips
      @Towertrips 6 месяцев назад

      @@dianeglanvilleyou support terrorism too?

    • @ispy3836
      @ispy3836 6 месяцев назад

      He is another treachrous sh house

  • @richardhorton25
    @richardhorton25 6 месяцев назад +55

    Well said John McDonnell, perhaps the best chancellor of the exchequer we never had.

  • @LindaMadlala
    @LindaMadlala 6 месяцев назад +88

    Such gross incompetence by the Deputy speaker, she's ducking the issue altogether and completely muddies the point. MP's need legal advice as parliamentarians whether they are acting within the law, regardless of what the government does. What a shameful response

  • @medzwelshy13
    @medzwelshy13 6 месяцев назад +29

    John - “can you please do your job for me and others that work here”
    Deputy speaker - “nah mate”

  • @johnallen8680
    @johnallen8680 6 месяцев назад +33

    He may as well talk to the wind

    • @davidsmith5523
      @davidsmith5523 6 месяцев назад +3

      But we saw. We heard. We now know.

  • @carolberry2239
    @carolberry2239 6 месяцев назад +31

    You need to fire your legal team.

    • @davidsmith5523
      @davidsmith5523 6 месяцев назад +1

      Why, after all they are almost certainly providing according to their brief.

  • @allanmcdowall6568
    @allanmcdowall6568 6 месяцев назад +20

    She doesn't know is the answer.

  • @ratking1608
    @ratking1608 6 месяцев назад +46

    Christmas she's worse than Hoyle

  • @stephenhilling9910
    @stephenhilling9910 6 месяцев назад +495

    The deputy speaker is in breach of parliament, it is her duty to seek legal advice when requested by an MP

    • @MD-nv7jx
      @MD-nv7jx 6 месяцев назад +72

      The speaker and deputy speaker are all a joke. They follow the rules when they want. The whole parliamentary system need serious reform.

    • @suzann2531
      @suzann2531 6 месяцев назад +8

      Didn’t you hear what she said. She wasn’t given notice of the question so she was unable to seek advice on a legal point that he raised.

    • @peterwilliams5669
      @peterwilliams5669 6 месяцев назад

      Well she has now heard the question three times and still hasn't agreed to obtain the legal advice for Parliament. A majority of the electorate want the supply of further weapons to Israel halted because of the ICJ interim Judgement. Since the Government is ignoring the ICJ; McDonnell's request is both justified and reasonable.@@suzann2531

    • @annenunney9907
      @annenunney9907 6 месяцев назад

      The government are not operating by the law over the war crimes she is just as bad as the speaker

    • @briangilligan6270
      @briangilligan6270 6 месяцев назад +54

      @@suzann2531 She misunderstood, he was asking for advice to be sought, she thought he expected to have that advice to hand, she was looking for help and happy to hand over the floor. It is worrying when the Deputy Speaker of the House of Commons can't understand a statement.

  • @ConsultantSal
    @ConsultantSal 6 месяцев назад +11

    We haven't lived in a true democracy for a long time now.

    • @xXDeathbysnusnuXx
      @xXDeathbysnusnuXx 6 месяцев назад +2

      Probably not since the first invention by the Athenians, even they understood the greatest threat to any Democracy is corruption.

  • @LDN-pup
    @LDN-pup 6 месяцев назад +71

    “No.. umm.. the government says they’re.. umm.. not breaking the.. umm.. law. We should totally.. umm.. trust that they’re not.”
    Is it not a slight conflict of interests to provide legal determination on whether or not you yourself are breaking the law!? 🙄

    • @denism8494
      @denism8494 6 месяцев назад +2

      speaker is not a member of the "government" in its definition used in parliament, it specifically means the currently elected party. Weather or not the speaker is blatantly favouring the government is a whole different story

    • @Lenny2Lux
      @Lenny2Lux 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@denism8494 Favouring a government not sure if it's ours though.

    • @LDN-pup
      @LDN-pup 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@denism8494no, I know. I’m baffled by her allowing the government themselves to determine that they aren’t complicit based on their own legal advice.
      Surely *that* is a conflict of interest and instead it should be independent legal advice.

    • @Towertrips
      @Towertrips 6 месяцев назад

      @@LDN-pupindependent legal advice from the lefty courts that support HAMAS, yeah right

    • @axelbruv
      @axelbruv 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@TowertripsWhat are you on about? What courts support Hamas? And you have the neck to call John McDonnell uneducated.

  • @junehawker2364
    @junehawker2364 6 месяцев назад +13

    Watching an mp bitting his nails is very eye-catching while my thoughts and mind should be on very important issues
    Please refrain whilst sitting on the front bench John MCDONNELL has made a most important point as Britain is complicit with war crimes

  • @Stewart2240
    @Stewart2240 6 месяцев назад +20

    Deputy Speaker totally flummoxed and all at sea. As like for Rwanda, the Tories will make it 'legal'

  • @ru76224
    @ru76224 6 месяцев назад +34

    4:49
    Wtf is ICG?
    This lady is beyond in.ept.

  • @p0ssiblypossiblynot557
    @p0ssiblypossiblynot557 6 месяцев назад +245

    The world knows YOU ARE ALL COMPLICIT

  • @jabezhane
    @jabezhane 6 месяцев назад +13

    "I was only following orders!" Hmmmm

  • @ND_NB
    @ND_NB 6 месяцев назад +38

    The flaccidity of our democracy on full show.

  • @terasci5102
    @terasci5102 6 месяцев назад +27

    She knows nothing!

  • @angelabrooke5059
    @angelabrooke5059 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you John

  • @markyoung405
    @markyoung405 6 месяцев назад +7

    Sounds like it would be too much work for her.

  • @isme959
    @isme959 6 месяцев назад +15

    speaking of poeple that don't apper to be interlectually sufficiant

  • @T-r5t
    @T-r5t 6 месяцев назад +11

    Brave man, actually the answer is obvious but somehow these days the truth became the ennemy of all administrations.

  • @sausagembape677
    @sausagembape677 6 месяцев назад +41

    What is the point of her?

  • @patrickburns574
    @patrickburns574 6 месяцев назад +9

    Good grief

  • @MrNoelyG
    @MrNoelyG 6 месяцев назад +100

    This set of speakers are useless

  • @Garwfechan-ry5lk
    @Garwfechan-ry5lk 6 месяцев назад +64

    The Woman is a Fart, literally of course

  • @Lenny2Lux
    @Lenny2Lux 6 месяцев назад +10

    Who is she working for?

  • @juliahartshorn2473
    @juliahartshorn2473 6 месяцев назад +7

    Good to see John McDonnell raise this in Parliament - and stick to his guns.
    What a shower the UK political class is at the moment, on both sides of the house for their complicity in gaslighting the public and any sensible voice s

  • @jeffreid7750
    @jeffreid7750 6 месяцев назад +5

    Well done John McDonald for raising the question.

  • @edwardmeaburn7658
    @edwardmeaburn7658 6 месяцев назад +48

    Those MPs that continue to support this mass murder of the Palestinian people should be charged with being complicit in this crime against humanity. This deputy speaker is quite hopeless is hesitant and not fit to be in that very important position. If this is the best we can do in choosing these people then i fear for our democracy obviously most of these Speakers fall far below the standards required to carry out this important office.

    • @martinwebb1681
      @martinwebb1681 6 месяцев назад

      That is your first mistake, believing we have a democracy when clearly we do not.

  • @simonvalsler9519
    @simonvalsler9519 6 месяцев назад +33

    C'mon John, the government representative has told you that they're operating within the law, is that not good enough for you?!?!? As if the government would lie about it!!! 😂

    • @MAHMED-s6h
      @MAHMED-s6h 6 месяцев назад

      The people of the UK believe the opposite to the government.

  • @dav7444
    @dav7444 6 месяцев назад +4

    I despair

  • @GerryHat-trick
    @GerryHat-trick 6 месяцев назад +13

    The govt follows the law....unless it's in a limited and specific way, relates to Rwanda, or probably many other ways.
    Parliament does need independent advice, while the liars are in charge 🤦‍♂

  • @Peshkabz
    @Peshkabz 6 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks jhon

  • @HungryOctopus
    @HungryOctopus 6 месяцев назад +14

    Who is the lady of the house? She shuts everything down.

    • @adammitxhell2932
      @adammitxhell2932 6 месяцев назад

      shes part of labour friends of israel. make of that what you will.

  • @mpell66
    @mpell66 6 месяцев назад +13

    I guess anyone can get some legal advise as to the UK's complicity and involvement in war crimes and genocide happening by Israel in Gaza, as well as other instances of the UK's involvement, support and complicity in war crimes in other regions of the world. I would find it informative and helpful to see some legal advice on the matter. It may be naïve to expect the government or any individual or organisation that is associated with the government to be interested or enthusiastic to pursue this as it is very common for people in power to not be interested in the reality of their actions and the consequences of those actions and anything to do with emotionally connecting to what they are doing. Either way, I think that is an excellent suggestion for at least someone (or organisation) to get extensive legal advice on the matter and publish it into the public domain.

  • @EVITANDY
    @EVITANDY 6 месяцев назад +13

    This is all very well, but haven't they just voted unanimously to break international law?
    So what the Minister says, and the Speaker backs up (there's an amazing thing), is just nonsense, since they ultimately do what the hell they want, regardless of the law.

    • @davidsmith5523
      @davidsmith5523 6 месяцев назад +1

      Oh but no. We saw. We now know.

  • @freespeechisdeadrip
    @freespeechisdeadrip 6 месяцев назад +86

    The seats are empty because its not of their interests, if a debate about their own wages was on , the parliament would be overflowing

    • @Lenny2Lux
      @Lenny2Lux 6 месяцев назад +8

      💯

    • @kevinsmarts9953
      @kevinsmarts9953 6 месяцев назад

      MPs wages are decided by the IPSA, they have no say in it. The IPSA was set up in 2009 after the MP expenses scandal to remove them from the process to avoid internal corruption.

    • @CastleHassall
      @CastleHassall 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@kevinsmarts9953that's not true at all.. they literally vote on their own pay rises.. still

    • @kevinsmarts9953
      @kevinsmarts9953 6 месяцев назад

      @@CastleHassallUnless literally means not at all in any way, you are wrong,

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@CastleHassall Why not Google for yourself as you don't seem to want to believe what is factually correct ?

  • @massinissabelkouche648
    @massinissabelkouche648 6 месяцев назад +48

    Complicity in war crimes🤣🤣🤣🤣you’ve started this crime in the first place from Balfour declaration in 1917 to this day!!

    • @el-capiitan2518
      @el-capiitan2518 6 месяцев назад +5

      John didn't start it did he

    • @suzann2531
      @suzann2531 6 месяцев назад

      Best go and dig him up then ask him. How can you blame politicians of today for what happened back then. Why can’t the Palestinians live side by side with Israel anyway without fighting.

    • @martinwebb1681
      @martinwebb1681 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@suzann2531 ... The answer to that is simple .... Religion.

    • @el-capiitan2518
      @el-capiitan2518 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@martinwebb1681 they lived in peace and harmony under the ottaman empire for 100s of years 😕😕😕😕

    • @astroflyinsights
      @astroflyinsights 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@suzann2531why do countries have borders at all then?

  • @ianhealy7066
    @ianhealy7066 6 месяцев назад +194

    what an appalling woman

    • @jaywalker3087
      @jaywalker3087 6 месяцев назад +10

      Um , um , er, um😮

    • @dianeglanville
      @dianeglanville 6 месяцев назад +10

      she is a tory that's why

    • @dianeglanville
      @dianeglanville 6 месяцев назад +8

      what do expect from a tory

    • @Towertrips
      @Towertrips 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@dianeglanville manners and education, something McDonnell can only dream of

    • @MrSatnavatron
      @MrSatnavatron 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@Towertrips oh dear , a German named account like that , hating on left wing politics ... You haven't hid yourself very well

  • @bloomingben5119
    @bloomingben5119 6 месяцев назад +10

    The question was too intelligent for the Deputy Speaker's level of education and experience, which is why she was struggling throughout.
    Madam Deputy Speaker, it's not complex. McDonnell doesn't believe the govt claims that it's doing everything legally about Israel in terms of supplying them with weapons for war, especially since Israel's actions have been described as genocide by many. The ICJ has also said that it's plausible that the same country's ( Israel) action in Gaza amounts to genocide.
    So, Mr McDonnell is asking for the speaker to facilitate the provision of legal advice for MPs in the House because MP primary role is to hold the government to account, especially when it seems that the government is breaking the law. I.e. Indirectly participating in war crimes.

    • @briangilligan6270
      @briangilligan6270 6 месяцев назад +2

      There are already judged to be war crimes. If, an investigation is held, how far down the line will it go? Would individual MPs be charged for voting for what they believed given the information they had at the time? This is a serious issue, the prior judgement makes it so. It's entirely possible that suppliers will be held to account, private suppliers will ignore calls but governments can't do so that easily.

    • @maxpowerii7368
      @maxpowerii7368 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@briangilligan6270if it’s found the MPs voting on supporting Israel could not have had a reasonable belief in the legality of such actions due to the prevalence of evidence to the contrary i.e the ICJ rulings then yes it’s possible for them to be prosecuted for collaboration in war crimes.
      Blindly pleading ignorance isn’t a get out clause for most criminal offences especially where there has been clear evidence to contrary. Otherwise no one would ever get a driving ticket again, people would just claim they thought what they were doing was legal at the time. Courts generally find ignorance of the law is not a permissible defence and especially so when it comes to international laws against war crimes. Huge numbers of Germans for example were successfully prosecuted for collaboration despite them claiming to have known nothing about the Holocaust.

    • @briangilligan6270
      @briangilligan6270 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@maxpowerii7368 Well said, it is shocking that so many people find the actions of the Israel government are not illegal yet condemn other governments for similar crimes. I accept that what Hamas did is awful but The response of of Israel is so over the top to be unacceptable to the rest of the world, Apart from China and the Russian state,

  • @SuzanneO707
    @SuzanneO707 6 месяцев назад +8

    Not exactly exuding a sense of urgency is she.

  • @steveharrison76
    @steveharrison76 6 месяцев назад +6

    MADAM: THIS IS YOUR JOB. Sit down, stop wittering on and take note of the request.

  • @ronaldchristenkkson
    @ronaldchristenkkson 6 месяцев назад +14

    The deputy speaker needs to focus on fixing her itinerant stuttering before trying to direct proceedings in Parliament.

  • @chrisspencer6502
    @chrisspencer6502 6 месяцев назад +33

    Oh dear, the speaker is stuck.

    • @cathygarlick9321
      @cathygarlick9321 6 месяцев назад +13

      She comes across as even worse than Hoyle

    • @noelfleming3567
      @noelfleming3567 6 месяцев назад +4

      She's only there for d money and poewr

    • @TheBridge-Q
      @TheBridge-Q 6 месяцев назад +1

      So is the record!

  • @adammitxhell2932
    @adammitxhell2932 6 месяцев назад +26

    i s r a el i s a p a r ia h s t at e

  • @infrared2084
    @infrared2084 6 месяцев назад +5

    If politicians break international law, how can we hold them accountable?

    • @patriciabates-c4s
      @patriciabates-c4s 6 месяцев назад +3

      People can refer them to the Police as long as the government does NOT try to place the Police under Home Office rule. The Police are independent and should remain so. Braverman wanted to change this as she disliked the Pro Palestine Marches. If under the Home Office that free speech would have been silenced. The Police were capable of doing their job and that should remain. How could a Politician be charged with a crime if Politicians are in control of Police?

  • @Geopoliticstoday2
    @Geopoliticstoday2 6 месяцев назад +6

    Same applies to voters. Voters allow those in power to commit atrocities by voting for those powers.

  • @haxstir
    @haxstir 6 месяцев назад +13

    Some direct correlation to the Rwanda policies should be drawn as a way to illustrate the illegality of what the government is doing. It can then be argued that legal clarification absolutely needs confirmation since it has been shown the government is lax in establishing legal framework.

  • @robertrowse1028
    @robertrowse1028 6 месяцев назад +4

    Receiving funds or gratuity from any source to bow to the will of a foreign power would make a politician an agent of that foreign power and consequently a TRATOR to the king and country.

  • @johnclements6614
    @johnclements6614 6 месяцев назад +11

    So she wants maybe a hundred MP's to put in expense claims for separate legal advice for the same thing. Does not seem a good use of tax payers money, barristers do not come cheap.

    • @noelfleming3567
      @noelfleming3567 6 месяцев назад +6

      All part of d club it's only taxpayers money doesn't cost them a penny

    • @demeterontheinternet
      @demeterontheinternet 6 месяцев назад +2

      Which actually might make the point that needs to be made, especially if they can show they tried to expense it to their party and their party HQ declined. They have the administrative power to do that.

  • @ibrahim.1606
    @ibrahim.1606 6 месяцев назад +8

    I’ll help you out. You’re absolutely complicit. The only question is whether any of you will stand trial for it.

    • @Towertrips
      @Towertrips 6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your opinion. Can I have a large fries with my burger please

    • @ibrahim.1606
      @ibrahim.1606 6 месяцев назад

      @@Towertrips as your lawyer, it’s my job to give legal advice. And as your doctor, I must say you’ve already had too many fries.

    • @Towertrips
      @Towertrips 6 месяцев назад

      @@ibrahim.1606but as my car washer, you’ve missed a bit

    • @Towertrips
      @Towertrips 6 месяцев назад

      @michellenorris8471 so lefty … racism is your go to defence for anything even with no evidence

    • @patriciabates-c4s
      @patriciabates-c4s 6 месяцев назад

      They should stand trial. Be imprisoned if guilty. No-one is above the law including Politians and Civil Servants. NO-ONE

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 6 месяцев назад +13

    All the Law Offjcers
    Turned War Officers

    • @petercook5563
      @petercook5563 6 месяцев назад +9

      Police and thieves in the street scaring the nation with their guns and ammunition

  • @JP-ve7pp
    @JP-ve7pp 6 месяцев назад +5

    What sort of 'rule of law' is the British government operating regarding arms sales or arms gifts, when at the same time its Foreign Secretary pretends to be 'concerned' by the massacres of women and children in Gaza?

  • @Aronshmuli665
    @Aronshmuli665 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great coverage, thank you

  • @Draigthedragon
    @Draigthedragon 6 месяцев назад +4

    A deputy speaker who struggles to put three words together without hesitation. And MPs and the public are meant to believe that this Tory government is listening to and obeying legal advice... when they tried to defend Boris etc al with a defence of not understanding COVID laws.

  • @RSB299
    @RSB299 6 месяцев назад +3

    That’s what we are dealing with nobody is prepared to admit to breaking the law.😡😡😡😡😡

  • @enigma1000
    @enigma1000 6 месяцев назад +5

    John McDonnell asked a clear question. What isn’t clear is whether the Deputy Speaker didn’t understand or didn’t want to understand. The MPs need legal advice on what their responsibilities are to avoid complicity in Israel’d likely genocide. It ain’t that complicated.

  • @chrisculpin3421
    @chrisculpin3421 6 месяцев назад +2

    Anyone remember these words?
    "it being clearly understood that NOTHING SHALL BE DONE which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine"

  • @allanmcdowall6568
    @allanmcdowall6568 6 месяцев назад +4

    Covering their butt's so they don't get sued separately

  • @JulieLevinge
    @JulieLevinge 6 месяцев назад +1

    Courts have frequently disagreed with the government on legality!

  • @andrewfrost8592
    @andrewfrost8592 6 месяцев назад +4

    She is stumbling to cover the govt and not actually dealing with a reasonable and proper request.

  • @colincampbell4261
    @colincampbell4261 6 месяцев назад +2

    Good bloody question.

  • @Justlib543
    @Justlib543 6 месяцев назад +4

    Respect to John McDonnell

  • @MrSatnavatron
    @MrSatnavatron 6 месяцев назад +3

    It doesn't matter what we do , what clever questions we have. The system is designed to stop us from gaining any level of influence

  • @carolberry2239
    @carolberry2239 6 месяцев назад +7

    Why only now?

  • @Sisiphus776
    @Sisiphus776 6 месяцев назад +2

    Well said John McConnell! About time someone highlights this incredible issue

  • @eointhomas2914
    @eointhomas2914 6 месяцев назад +4

    This is actually comical, fair play to him for calling it out

  • @denzel3745
    @denzel3745 6 месяцев назад +4

    dear god Chucky in the chair !

  • @Applied_Theory
    @Applied_Theory 6 месяцев назад +3

    The request was clear from the first time. The speaker played on words to dodge the issue. Shame.

  • @superchargerone
    @superchargerone 6 месяцев назад +2

    golly, she is what every dictator dreams of when they need an official to respond to queries. It is right that every member of the house has legal responsibility to do what is within the law and that obligation is distinct from that of the government who also has its own obligation under the same law. however, members cannot just rely on someone else to discharge the responsibility which is what she is saying asking members to rely on the government's legal advice. the court will not allow members to parcel off their respective individual responsibilities just because they can rely on the the government who says "trust me". There must be proper independent advice sought and relied on in order to discharge the members duties and obligations. What democracies and rule of law?? BS going on here.

  • @humphwills
    @humphwills 6 месяцев назад +4

    I feel sure that JohnMcDonnell is a honorable man who has no interest other than the welfare of his fellow man/woman and upholding the law. I wish we had more like him.

    • @jackiefranklin7126
      @jackiefranklin7126 6 месяцев назад

      We did have more like him, but they were hounded out, and suspensions within the LP are ongoing. It is a travesty