Please keep making the "From the Archives" videos. And thank you for not messing with the aspect ratio. I find it really annoying when someone takes a perfectly good 4:3 video and stretches it horizontally to fill a wide screen.
Fantastic video and dare I say it - timeless advice. Here’s the thing: much of the GA fleet is older than this video. The rules of aerodynamics haven’t changed, and neither have the mountains. I was fascinated by how quickly I could identify the landmarks they were flying over. The clothing, hairstyles, and airports look a little different, but the surrounding terrain, recommended routes, and aerodynamic forces all stayed the same. Two thumbs up.
I was curious to see if there was one more video within a video within a video we would unlock some kind of aviation 3rd dimension! Alas... we’ll have to wait.
This video was part of a mountain flying course I took after I got my license back in the 90s. I fly a PA28 out of Denver (APA) but I rented a 182RG for the check ride. Leadville (LXV) at 9934' was our 1st stop because density altitude was always an issue later in the day.
@@brianbranson2920 Went well. I'm in the Bay area and did my training at AeroDynamic Aviation at Reid-Hillview Airport (KRHV) where we flew to Truckee (KTRK) and then Tahoe (KTVL). Felt this video really covered all the major points and only surprise was how much vertical ascent & descent (+-1500 ft/min) occasionally happened when flying level attitude at 10k' over the mountains. I'd definitely recommend taking the class as you'll gain that knowledge, confidence, and experience. Plus it's a lot of fun. Good luck!
Really interesting video. And gorgeous views from the sky! I love the mountains and love living in a place where I’m surrounded by them. 😊 Thanks for sharing! Great channel! I’m following!
Outside of the fact that the year is shown in the opening credits the more formal wear of the instructor should be a good indicator. I am glad that instructors can now perform their duties without having to be so formal in their attire. i worked retail from 1977 until 2006. I was so glad when management finally ditched the ties.
I think that a highly unappreciated hazard are the downdrafts and rotor zone associated with mountain wave. These downdrafts and high winds easily exceed most airplane’s climb rates at cruise altitudes. Glider pilots use these waves to soar to great heights and go long distances, but we study the structure of the wave phenomena.
Nowadays we can also rely on remote web cameras in the mountains, but the rest still applies. Although I feel that a few scary pictures of cloud-covered mountain passes, mountain-generated thunderstorms etc. should have been included here. The check-ouit flight is just too smooth :)
This video is amazing! Things I have learned on this day, as a result of watching this historic video: - Never use a whack chart - Do use a Coke chart - Call the sheriff for your weather briefing - Always keep track of where you are, otherwise you could get lost - If you are flying the wrong way, you might be in the wrong place - There are updrafts on the windward side of mountains, unless there aren't, then there could be downdrafts, or flat air-- who knows? - Make sure you stay below 14,000'-- even though cliffs are all around-- so you don't break any regulations that say you need supplemental oxygen - Make sure you avoid downdrafts, even though nobody really knows where they might be - If you're in a downdraft and the plane doesn't want to keep flying, just keep flying that plane anyway, even if you hit the ground - If you get toward a mountaintop, but you can't see anything on the other side, you're too low - A good day's skiing it a top killer of pilots, therefore: make your Aspen trip in the summertime to avoid skiing :D :D :D Seriously though this video is cool and has some good information in it.
Did not know the wind direction determines which side of valley has updraft. Come to think of it, whenever we fly back into LA basin in the afternoon, the updraft is so much that you have hard time descending without over-speeding, unless you plan it really well. Now it makes sense as the wind always blows from the ocean in the afternoon. Sink over water or green area now explains why at final in Corona airport (KAJO) the airplane always sink just before touch down.
As someone who isn't a pilot or in the world of GA (but nonetheless finds these videos fascinating) - is it actually a process whereby someone at an airport will guide you on these things and fly in the plane with you?
Call the FBO (fixed base operator) at the airport and arrange for an instructor. It will cost you probably a hundred bucks or two, but it's money well spent.
The first rule is to fly an aircraft with the proper equipment and power. No amount of training can overcome an under-powered aircraft. You need a turbo charger, turbine or jet engine. You may also need deicing capability. You also need terrain mapping capability and knowledge of mountain wave winds.
When I was a kid it was thought everybody would be flying regularly just to get around. This vid explains why, in a country were half of people don't properly use turn signals in their cars, that didn't happen. With all hassle of the planning, the issues, the setbacks, the noise, the discomfort, the cost, it's more enjoyable to drive.
It would be cool to know what from this video doesn't apply anymore. I assume with a GPS in everyone's pocket (and most planes), getting lost is nowhere near as common and pilotage is no longer the recommended navigation method.
I missed those days when everyone was happy to see and help you.
Thanks 😊
I miss those days when a psycho wouldn't point a gun and mass shoot strangers in a public space.
@@jesuswasjewish5289 but was he happy?
Nostalgia sure ain’t what it used to be, that’s for sure.
I'm still that way.
Ruined by civil rights
Please keep making the "From the Archives" videos. And thank you for not messing with the aspect ratio. I find it really annoying when someone takes a perfectly good 4:3 video and stretches it horizontally to fill a wide screen.
I agree! either black sides or blurred edges makes me happy, but stretching is unacceptable 🤣
I do this and I don't care... /w\/w\
Nice old-school video. I like it! So many maps and manuals... Today, a single iPad will do.
The iPadd will do-until it doesn't, ie. it suddenly quits.
If more pilots watch this channel there would be fewer needless accidents.
Fantastic video and dare I say it - timeless advice. Here’s the thing: much of the GA fleet is older than this video. The rules of aerodynamics haven’t changed, and neither have the mountains. I was fascinated by how quickly I could identify the landmarks they were flying over. The clothing, hairstyles, and airports look a little different, but the surrounding terrain, recommended routes, and aerodynamic forces all stayed the same. Two thumbs up.
I liked your videos today about mountain flying.
Thanks! This old stuff is in so many ways so nice to watch.
I'm itching for more accident case studies! They are top notch!
I was curious to see if there was one more video within a video within a video we would unlock some kind of aviation 3rd dimension!
Alas... we’ll have to wait.
I would love to see a modern remake of this!!
Yup, technology, ADSB, GPS, glass cockpits....a remake would be great!
Love the old stuff.
Thanks for the upload! BJC is my home airport but I’ve not done any mountain flying yet. These will be good tips to keep in mind.
This video was part of a mountain flying course I took after I got my license back in the 90s. I fly a PA28 out of Denver (APA) but I rented a 182RG for the check ride. Leadville (LXV) at 9934' was our 1st stop because density altitude was always an issue later in the day.
"Tech" has made people complacent. The physics, airplanes, and weather haven't changed. These videos are just as relevant.
Have my mountain flying class coming up in a couple weeks and glad to see this. Thnx again
How did it go? Where did you get this training? Would you recommend it?
@@brianbranson2920 Went well. I'm in the Bay area and did my training at AeroDynamic Aviation at Reid-Hillview Airport (KRHV) where we flew to Truckee (KTRK) and then Tahoe (KTVL). Felt this video really covered all the major points and only surprise was how much vertical ascent & descent (+-1500 ft/min) occasionally happened when flying level attitude at 10k' over the mountains. I'd definitely recommend taking the class as you'll gain that knowledge, confidence, and experience. Plus it's a lot of fun. Good luck!
Really interesting video. And gorgeous views from the sky! I love the mountains and love living in a place where I’m surrounded by them. 😊 Thanks for sharing! Great channel! I’m following!
Outside of the fact that the year is shown in the opening credits the more formal wear of the instructor should be a good indicator. I am glad that instructors can now perform their duties without having to be so formal in their attire. i worked retail from 1977 until 2006. I was so glad when management finally ditched the ties.
Great advise even 30 years after the footage was created.
I think that a highly unappreciated hazard are the downdrafts and rotor zone associated with mountain wave. These downdrafts and high winds easily exceed most airplane’s climb rates at cruise altitudes. Glider pilots use these waves to soar to great heights and go long distances, but we study the structure of the wave phenomena.
Crossing Corona pass =D coincidence or not? Great, useful content as always.
Hahaahaha👍
A conspiracy, certainly. 😮 ASI was behind it all!!
Nowadays we can also rely on remote web cameras in the mountains, but the rest still applies.
Although I feel that a few scary pictures of cloud-covered mountain passes, mountain-generated thunderstorms etc. should have been included here. The check-ouit flight is just too smooth :)
I love this channel
This video invokes so much nostalgia 😆
This video is amazing! Things I have learned on this day, as a result of watching this historic video:
- Never use a whack chart
- Do use a Coke chart
- Call the sheriff for your weather briefing
- Always keep track of where you are, otherwise you could get lost
- If you are flying the wrong way, you might be in the wrong place
- There are updrafts on the windward side of mountains, unless there aren't, then there could be downdrafts, or flat air-- who knows?
- Make sure you stay below 14,000'-- even though cliffs are all around-- so you don't break any regulations that say you need supplemental oxygen
- Make sure you avoid downdrafts, even though nobody really knows where they might be
- If you're in a downdraft and the plane doesn't want to keep flying, just keep flying that plane anyway, even if you hit the ground
- If you get toward a mountaintop, but you can't see anything on the other side, you're too low
- A good day's skiing it a top killer of pilots, therefore: make your Aspen trip in the summertime to avoid skiing
:D :D :D
Seriously though this video is cool and has some good information in it.
I understand that you are trying to use a bit of sarcasm, but just in case: It is WAC (World Aeronautical Chart) not "Whack" charts. :-)
Remind me never to fly with you, There are a lot of dead smart asses still up in those mountains who think like you.
Oh how I love these "from the archives"!!!!
I’m not a pilot, but I’m learning a lot of useful information anyway.
Did not know the wind direction determines which side of valley has updraft. Come to think of it, whenever we fly back into LA basin in the afternoon, the updraft is so much that you have hard time descending without over-speeding, unless you plan it really well. Now it makes sense as the wind always blows from the ocean in the afternoon. Sink over water or green area now explains why at final in Corona airport (KAJO) the airplane always sink just before touch down.
I had to unload the survival gear listed in part 2 of the guide to comply with Max takeoff weights in part 1 of the guide.
Thanks for sharing. Good refresher for us all!
This guy DEFiNITELY has the latest and most accurate information available to him pre-flight now!!
Really enjoyed this video! Some sensible advice. I’ve never flown GA in the mountains.
Great value from this video. Thanks so much.
Please give us some more of these from the archive tapes they are awesome
I commend the CFI in the video. He was good.
The best cleanest pleasure
Flying Iowa I don’t even want this mountain flying course, I’m just trying to get to the beach!!!
@@tylerp6375 two words: role playing chat room
Thx
As someone who isn't a pilot or in the world of GA (but nonetheless finds these videos fascinating) - is it actually a process whereby someone at an airport will guide you on these things and fly in the plane with you?
Call the FBO (fixed base operator) at the airport and arrange for an instructor. It will cost you probably a hundred bucks or two, but it's money well spent.
Love this old videos ! 😁🙂😉❤👍
The music is giving off some serious twin peaks vibes.
Exactly what I was looking for
This stuff is a mandatory part of training if you're doing your PPL in Austria :P
This was very informative
Nicely done
If you started watching after the first minute, you might have thought this was a porno from the early 90s
We need more air crash investigations.
editing is pretty slick there tiger
3:17 looks like blue skies and patchy cloud. But within moments is a whiteout. VFR To IMC?
I wish more pilots wore eyeshadow too, what's up with that..
.......sorry I couldn't help it!!
More Archives!!
Thanks!!
Haha I enjoyed the corny 80s music and grainy video. Great knowledge that could save lives.
Pretty sure I watched that instructor PPL oral exam on RUclips.
The first rule is to fly an aircraft with the proper equipment and power. No amount of training can overcome an under-powered aircraft. You need a turbo charger, turbine or jet engine. You may also need deicing capability. You also need terrain mapping capability and knowledge of mountain wave winds.
These are the same voice over guys from all the old-school Jeppesen videos. Was this a Jepp product?
That crisp audio is throwing me off considering it’s a nineties film
Old but still useful.
35:50 had trouble focusing cause I was too busy vibing to the music!
When I was a kid it was thought everybody would be flying regularly just to get around. This vid explains why, in a country were half of people don't properly use turn signals in their cars, that didn't happen. With all hassle of the planning, the issues, the setbacks, the noise, the discomfort, the cost, it's more enjoyable to drive.
These guys needed to have some forethought on their fashion choices.
1960?
It would be cool to know what from this video doesn't apply anymore. I assume with a GPS in everyone's pocket (and most planes), getting lost is nowhere near as common and pilotage is no longer the recommended navigation method.
No way this is 1991, this is like 1982
If you really want to be armed with real knowledge for flying in the mountains buy the book, Mountain Flying Bible Revised by Sparky Imeson.
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this reminds me of a 90's porn film
Welcome to 1975.
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