Battleship NJ Recalled for Service!
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- Battleship New Jersey has been recalled back into service for an unprecedented 5th commissioning!
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It took me a second to realize what day it was. This is just straight unnecessarily cruel. I guess we really got on Ryan's nerves this time.
Yeah that hurt. Saw the thumb and and just had an electric feeling at the thought of it being recommissioned.
got me pretty good ngl
Lol, me too. My brain went through a quick little gymnastics routine.
Click bate. I fell for it tooo.
@@johncipolla8335 dude, it's april's fools.....
I had a brief vision of a glorious battleship, armed with gigantic cannons, breaking through the waves on the high seas like they did in the days of old, then I remembered what day it is :(
Imagine an Iowa, with two triple rail gun turrets forward and the rear replaced with a hypersonic missile VLS
NUT
"Anti-ship missile inbound!"
@@andrewzheng4038 to bad those rail guns don't have the power of the guns iowa already has
Yeah! Things were looking pretty bad a$$ for a second there
@@ryanstuckey8677 Don’t underestimate the kinetic weapons.
*Reading the title* “Well it’s about damn time!!!”
*Realizing that it’s April 1st* “SON OF A BITCH!!!!”
Give a 1 week, I can upgrade them with arcane technology, kinetic particle shields & dampeners, auto-repair neural runic magic circuits, machine spirit guardian matrix auto defence turrets and counter hacking,
He'll give me 4 months and we can have the Iowa's, the Bismarck's, Richelieus, Vanguard & Yamato's back up and running.....or sailing in this case,
DO NOT ASK FOR TELEPORTER, weather machine I work to make clouds and fog,
*SON OF A BI-*
@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 See now this is a man with vision
@@Ranger215able YES A GLORIOUS VISION OF UNITED TERRAN EMPIRE, ONE WORLD ONE BANNER, ONE LEADER WITH THE VOICE OF MANY, THE STAR AWAIT US!
AVE IMPERATOR DEUS VULT,
@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 You forgot Venators
"Later tonight I'm gonna call Admiral Halsey" lol omg I'm dying
The thought of any of the museum Battleships being scrapped is horrifying.
At least 1 of every ship, weapon, ammo, vehicle, and airplane MUST be well preserved somewhere. Even if the US military needs to do it. It's very sad when old historic ships especially get scrapped, all the other gear is basically nameless and generic, but navy ships are named and have each their own history. I take pride in the Battleship Iowa named after my state, it sucks our ship can't be docked here at home, but she fills me with pride knowing the history her class has been through, launched around WW2 and serving as long as the 90s.
My heart fluttered for a few second then I realized the day. Well played.
I was so happy to hear that she was going to be active again then remembered the day and was so upset because I wish they would make a new battleship with large guns and the advantages of today with its new weapons
Finally! Our baby can get more battlestars than Enterprise!
When they raise the your town enterprises sister ship
glare
@@josephstevens9888 yeah..no. Enterprise easily beats that 11 battle stars .
Look at the date
@@blobert62 April 2nd over here
Ryan, I think if the US is in such dire straits that the battleships are reactivated, finding a new job wouldn’t be terribly hard. We’d all be drafted at that point.
finding a geiger counter might be the higher priority.
Not me! I was drafted 50 years ago, after being told that I couldn't serve. I would be more likely put to work in some electronics facility.
Let's face it, by the time you guys over there are getting drafted en-masse, I'm either dead or playing guerilla in the woods...
@@SGTcz90cz Or just monkeying around? 😁
@@michaelterrell Yeah, also an option.
I believe the hardest part of getting any of the rumble-wagons back up and running would be the engineering. My buddy served in the Navy in the 1970s and 1980s as a Boiler Tech (BT) aboard a destroyer and destroyer escort; back then, he saw his rating was disappearing. Since then, the Navy has completely gone away from non-nuclear steam, so they'd have to essentially start the program from square one.
There's plenty of old sailors like me that still know how to do the job!!!
Never steamed a stick shift m type, but could learn fast, the principles are the same.
That's was not so long ago that many are able to serve. Recall techs to active service and some on the job training for younger folks. You could start the training before the navy gets possession. Also navy never tosses anything out all the a school stuff just unpack and put some new recruits through it. 90 days for basic schooling for kids with mechanical backgrounds and some vets with experience running that type of engine and I believe it would be ready to sail in 90 days. Not combat ready but under steam and crews getting up to speed
90 days is very optimistic Aaron, maybe ready to light fires in 6 months to a year. Far longer to get underway.
I believe the steam boilers were replaced during her '67 activation and refit and if not most certainly in the '82 refit.
I was stationed in Qua Viet when the New Jersey arrived off the coast in 1968. She fired her 16" guns over our heads to somewhere further inland. We could hear the rounds passing over us. A truly impressive sight.
Yes I had the same experience while stationed at Tuy Hoa AB, which boardered on the South China Sea. The NJ wasn’t that far off coast and the big guns gave a brilliant display along with the rumble. It was at night and we could see those huge rounds moving through the moon lit overcast directly over head. It was quite impressive and one I’ll never forget.
ya my dad was on the iowa bb61 in ww2 first one on it. he could see the shells leave the guns
This was more convincing than Dyson’s latest product release.
I like the jump jets for speed boosting, escaping torpedoes and landing on top of aircraft carriers. Those flatdecks were meant for carrying battleships.
True.... unfortunately that means the aircraft carrier is still the superior warship as even a battleship is little more than a payload option.
🤔 Sooo, you're wanting to make it another Space Battleship Yamato?
I actually think that *if* the navy ever chose to reactivate the ship they would want to retain you as a contractor- very few, if any, other people know the exact material condition of as much of the ship as you do, and you would be able to help the yard come up with a plan to make the ship serviceable and help 'fill in the blanks' when it came to documentation or lack thereof as well as put them into contact with other individuals who have access to the information they need to reactivate the ship. This would save the navy considerable time and money so I would be surprised if they did not at least consider it. That is of course if they didn't want to scrap it.
Direct commission. Meet Admiral Ryan Szimanksi, Commander of Battleship Restoration :)
Never happen…. I worked for the govt. for 33 years and your idea makes way too much sense for the government to just arbitrarily decide to adopt it. Our government, bless her heart, is made up of literally millions of good well-meaning folks, but is too clumsy and massive to ever work out on a dime little “good” but nuanced situations like what you’ve proposed
@@parrot849 You'd be surprised.
@@RealJohnnyDingo Admiral would be too high, but your idea is definitely on target.
Agreed.
Long live the Mighty New Jersey!!!! Built by American workers from American steel, she’s one of the last physical testaments to how great our country was. WW2 was our greatest triumph as a nation and I love anything that can connect me to a time i’d much rather be living in.
Probably be better to start from scratch and build a Montana class wagon. Ryan does a great job of explaining a lot of things, which whether you know a lot about battleships, or you don't know much, it is informative!
Ahh how I love being a British viewer and getting an April fools video as the clock ticks over to the 2nd - really got me for a second
You got me Ryan. I excitedly called my dad, who’s a navy veteran, to tell him the news. Then had to back track. I should probably report the video for misinformation. 😂
I called the Programs Director. Ryan got me good
I hope that battleships actually do come back once railguns and lasers become practical
That actually had me, almost two months later. Nice job!
You son of a ...... good one man. I was excited!
You almost got me, good April Fool’s joke
I thought it had to be click bait. Even if they did recall a ship such as New Jersey, they wouldn’t leak it to the GP. It would make the ship a sitting duck until it was retrofitted.
The issue with "Low Background Steel" was pretty much solved by the use of oxygen in the furnaces instead of air. The issue since the above ground detonations of nuclear weapons is strontium in the atmosphere got into the steel in the air-breathing furnaces. This steel had a constant background radiation that made it unsuitable for some applications where the radiation given off affected measuring and imaging instruments where it was used.
Neat didnt know that, I know you would run into the same issues in reprocessing low background steel as you would with just making new steel but didnt know that the issue had been pretty much solved all together. I have to go sit in a room made of low background steel once a year for an hour or so for my job, part of an in vivo bioassay program for monitoring of radionuclides. Supposedly the room is made of old battleship steel but I dont know what ship it supposedly came from.
@@josephvanas6352 I think most low background steel comes from the ships at scapa flow so chances are its from the ships there.
also its been long enough that the radioactive elements in the atmosphere have decayed down to nearly background radiation, and in another 10 year it will be completely indistinguishable from background radiation
I was wondering what he meant by pre-nuclear steel. I work steel and I wasn't even aware of this term or these kinds of problems...
Now, EXCUSE ME; I've got some research to do🤔
@@AsbestosMuffins I dont believe that to be the case. Cs-137 and Sr/y-90 are the main medium term isotopes released in a nuclear blast or in any nuclear accident like Chernobyl or to a much lesser extent Fukushima. These isotopes both have half lives of approximately 30 years. In general things are considered to be "completely decayed" after 8 or so half lives or about 240 years in the case of both of these isotopes. We are nowhere near 240 years away from even the trinity test. Now other shorter lived fission products such as I-131 with a half life of 8 days are long gone from even the most recent nuclear test or accident. Now also consider fuel reprocessing for either weapons or power. If done with a disregard for human health and safety it can release massive amounts of these isotopes. There is still active fuel reprocessing in many countries and it can be done safely such as in France, but with powers like North Korea starting up fuel processing I highly doubt that is the case there.
Lmao, i'm getting this video on the 18th of May, I legitimately was confused and worried until I noticed the comments, and the day this video was posted. Well Played sir, well played.
Battleships are just like taxes, the government says they are giving the money to you but always find a way of taking them back.
New Jersey with rail cannons, oh boy, she has awakened from her light rest to fight for the liberty and freedom for firepower~ use those guns well big J~ (and yes I know it could be April fools too bit it's good to dream, plus why not put her in service again.)
That's a good point; since the railgun was actually gotten working, then found to be of no use on an aircraft carrier.
When I read the title of this video i said "HELL YEAH!!!" for about 3 seconds... I know it would of been bad for the museum and probably the ship, but even the hope of seeing the 50 Cal 16 inch main guns fire again with modern video recording would be cool.
Well done, Ryan, you had me going for a second. The tie-in to the crisis in Ukraine was just the right trigger to a need for more firepower, and the ability to go places where there could be a sudden attack from too close for a SAM to lock on and accept a firing solution. But then I remembered the breech explosion in Iowa's No. 2 turret and the passage of time eliminating the skills needed to crew a steam powered ship with weapons that were no longer supported by Navy infrastructure. Did you ever make a video about the Iowa's accident? I remember the stories of veteran chiefs coming out of retirement to train current sailors in how to work the big guns.
I’m afraid the Iowa tragedy is too painful to rehash.
Stuff like the SeaRAM would likely have the intercept range even still. At that range you're looking at LCS operations, which means you're already in a furball.
Congress ordered that the NAVY was to maintain the battleships just in case!
They still have some steam plant ships in the Navy
I thought the navy said there was no accident at all on Turret 2, don’t you mean the homosexual love triangle bombing?
The thing is, I’ve been to to the Iowa and on that museum they’re careful not to say the NIS’s bullshit theory was bullshit because they can’t discredit the navy under their contract, Adam the woo did a video where he got a curator tour and the Iowa curator said the accident theory by the navy was bullshit and this curator had to apologize for saying this on a video
Never in my life have I been so excited, and then so let down. Well played!
Good for all you guys for essentially helping preserve a valuable resource. Well done. I agree that any use might be in terms of the primo steel of which the New Jersey is built, but hey, it all counts. The mission of the non-profit is being fulfilled very well by you guys. It really is great to know this historic ship will be with us, hopefully serving to remind a future generation of the waste and savagery of war.
The Oregon was returned to the navy after a survey of her hull found it was still sound. The navy stripped out the armaments and cut the superstructure down. She was fitted out as an ammunition hulk and was used at Ulithi and abandoned after the war. The Oregon broke loose and wandered off on her own a couple of times she was sold as scrap to the Japanese and broken up in 1955. There is an unsubstantiated rumor that parts and metal of her were used to help restore the IJN Mikasa.
IIRC a few of the links from Oregon's anchor chain and a plaque are outside of a naval base in Japan in memorium.
And her mast is still in Portland as is her ship's wheel.
At least her conning tower and bow plaque survived, and are in the Portland riverfront park where she was moored before being taken back by the Navy. Her stacks also survived, and are in private storage in Portland nearby.
Oh the irony, could parts of her still be living on in a former enemy’s Pre-dreadnought? Only the Japanese curator can tell.🤔
officers and 1,804 enlisted
April Fool's Ryan! I know better than to believe that the USN is going to reactivate a Museum Ship. The US isn't even involved in WWIII yet...
😅👍
Yet…
Could happen New Jersey will take out the trash in Russia time for a house call
Ahem, we aren't telling yet, but we are.
Here, in the future, the post only says "over x years ago". So it took me a second to realize it's a April first video. But good job, even on June 16, years later, ya' still got me for a second. 😀
I love seeing the grenade hanging out the side of your box. That gave me a laugh. But it was also a dead giveaway.
I knew it was an April fools joke from the title but I still couldn’t help a giddy wave of excitement when I saw this
Just watched a 5 minute clip of the 2012 movie " Battleship " prior to your April Fools Video to get in the mood. I would love to see all four return to service. Your price quote of 2 billion dollars is less than the Navy spent for one Zumwalt class Destroyer and I dare say that properly outfitted and manned any of the Iowa's are a lot more ship and survivable. After the Persian Gulf war in 1991 several Arab countries offered to pay all expenses for the Navy to keep 2 battleships on active duty as long as one was on patrol in the Gulf region. There are still some people who value these ships.
Why?
@@birlyballop4704 they have the ability to take hit after hit and still stay in the fight no rouge antiship rockets would be sent without a devastating response in return
@@birlyballop4704 basically the Navy discontinued any significant armoring after the second world War because it was presumed that almost guaranteed a naval engagement would degenerate to cruise missiles and torpedoes within minutes. Armor was considered as wasteful to the Navy as putting machine guns into our jet aircraft was to the air force of the time. Any of the Iowa class battleships could take a ridiculous number of ship killer missiles, to the point that both American and Russian naval plans were to fire ridiculous numbers of cruise missiles or use a nuclear ship killer. Look up what it took to destroy the battleship Nevada after the failure to sink her in crossroads able and Baker. The fleet involved in security and control for the test took 4 days to finally destroy that ship after it had been near center Target of two nuclear weapons. Honestly the conflict in and near the Black Sea right now is exactly what these vessels were designed for. The armor on these vessels is literally feet thick. There are no present weapons in the conventional arsenal which could reliably destroy the battleships New Jersey, Missouri or Iowa. The closest possible weapon would be the massive penetrator bunker busters used in Afghanistan. The New Jersey, with the other three remaining siblings, could effectively deny maritime operations in the Black Sea.
@ Lee Chowning : That's what had me for a moment of believability. The current conflict in the black see and it's required sustainability and massive survivability are what these ships were designed for. Russia would have to use a tactical nuke to take one out of the fight... and even then I have my doubts on sinking her. She'd just be left a floating radioactive nightmare!
@@johnathanfuell6820 there's actually video footage on here from crossroads able and Baker showing the after effect on the Nevada. Yes if a even slightly modernized dreadnought or later battleship got into the Black Sea it would basically leave the present forces there stuck in harbor. Yes given enough time guided missile cruiser could sink a battleship. But a blockading battleship will already be within its range, and there is no way on Earth that that cruiser Will survive more than two salvos. If it had not been for the fact that Halloween and all fools day I am extremely paranoid on videos, I honestly would not have been surprised at all to see such an event.
How bout a series of videos about what a modern designed and built battleship (a newly designed ship built to the same requirements to do the same job as the battleships of the past) would involve and be like. 👍
It would be a wreck on the sea floor
@@rohanthandi4903 lol yes thou maybe something that's on the size of a Kirov BC with some like 300mm guns for naval bombardment with like 150 VLS? Designed as an amphibious support ship only
Sunk.
Lower, lighter, heavily armed, larger, and a bigger and better target. Missles make it moot.
Nice touch... the grenade hanging from the cardboard box. I almost forgot what day it was. LOL!
Thank God!!!
Yeah... Right... APRIL FOOLS....
Folks like battleships, the Iowas are the most modern, and they have been reactivated before. Therefore when they think about the return of battleships, they naturally think of bringing these back into operation even if the idea is unrealistic. What might not be so unrealistic is the construction of a new build, heavily armed and armored, highly survivable warship with large caliber guns as well as missile magazines. How about doing an episode imagining what such a warship would be like and what capabilities it would provide?
Look no further than the DDG-1000 program.
Originally built as a gunboat for shore bombardment with secondary missile capability, the guns were never used, the radar systems never put in place, and now they're just overly expensive superyachts for admirals.
Latest plan is to take out the guns and put launch tubes for hypersonic missiles in their place, giving them a grand total of 9 (yes 9) primary attack rounds, on a ship larger than a WW2 cruiser.
Overall, the program has been an utter failure on all fronts, mostly because of cost cutting by several sessions of congress but also because of the navy trying to incorporate technology that just wasn't ready for prime time.
An Iowa class SSGN fitted with the same missiles (and she would be smaller, harder to detect and hit for an enemy, and have far longer staying power on the line...) would have something like 40 of those same missiles, as well as being capable of carrying Tomahawks and Harpoon missiles for her torpedo tubes and Mk.48 ADCAP torpedoes for self defense against submarines and surface ships.
Those would have smaller crews as well.
@@jwenting Do you mean Ohio class SSGN? I have read about their upcoming decommissionings as the Columbia class boats come on line. It's hard to wrap my mind around the idea of a multibillion dollar vessel becoming so worn out it's not worth repairing, and it seems to me the idea of having more platforms carrying 158 Tomahawks apiece would be a very useful capability to have, especially if hypersonic missiles and nuclear tipped Tomahawks could be included in its capabilites.
I remember a few years ago when President Trump was standing up to North Korea seeing an article about one of the SSGNs pulling into a South Korean port for a "hull check." I have no idea if that's really a thing or not, but I'm guessing it sent a strong message to North Korea- "I'm out here. I have 158 Tomahawk missiles you can't stop ready to go at a moment's notice. You can't detect me, and any of your ships that try might just get a torpedo up their backsides. And for all you know, there might be three more just like me out here."
@@MK0272 yup. I think the idea was to convert more Ohios to SSGN configuration as they get replaced by the Columbias.
Might include retiring the "old" ones, which will have been in service for going on 45 years by now.
The main reason for retiring them is that, what with the massive budget cuts, the navy can't afford to overhaul them when it comes time for their next refueling.
They're not worn out, but replacing their nuclear fuel and doing the other major maintenance that goes with that costs a LOT of money.
That's also why the nuclear cruisers were retired, and a lot of the older nuclear submarines.
Armor: no.
Armor is useless.
Guns are an ehh. Maybe Excalibur derived shells? Not that useful though...
@@jwenting
Wrong on multiple fronts.
As it stands though, the main problem was that they were cut so heavily. A full fleet would have been fairly cheap, albeit...
Dammit you got us good hahahahahahahhaahaha, would honestly be AMAZING to see a Modernized Battleship Battlegroup come to fruition. Well played sir.
Lol it definitely wont shock me if or rather when they recall any of the iowas
@@Potato-pl5cr With how things are going, me neither lol
@@DJTheMetalheadMercenary i honestly thought it was real. But the way hes talking about it, sounds like he might be prepping himself to give his baby back.
@@Potato-pl5cr Ryan's relatively thorough with the information (in this case the process and logistics of reactivating the ship), I totally forgot what day it was so he got me good hahahaha
You got me! 4 days late but I fell for it.
Best ever! Two minute introduction. Can’t wait to watch the rest of the video.
Actually the Oregon was used as a munitions barge and ended up being scrapped in Japan i believe. Also I think the Wisconsin would be brought back first
She would be,her being the youngest of the four,and if they do,they better call me!,lol,i miss my baby!😂. I was on her during the Gulf War,lol.
Shes supposed to be in the best material condition of all the Iowa’s
She was when i left her in 92', and turned off the front porch lights,😂,but haven't seen her condition since. Norfolk bought her,and took over her care,i hope she's doing well,i planned on going to see her in the next couple yrs.Been way to long away from her,and she was one of the better,and most proudest part of my old salt life,lol.
@@d.c.4598 where there any lasting issues with the new bow? I think they would take the NJ back because she hasn't had any significant bumps or bruises....
@@d.c.4598 You were aboard Wisky for her decomm?? I was aboard Sylvania, and we were moored at the carrier pier with her the day the Marines came to remove some "special things" from Wisconsin. Also as a footnote, I did lots of work on my 70 Challenger with a box full of tools that were all stamped "USS Wisconsin"- every Chief on the waterfront evidently went aboard and carried things off, but those were just too cool to leave in our gear locker LOL. Sadly they were in the car when it was stolen in '93...
Really nice old-footage montages for a short April Fool's video! And it was nice to get a little real info after the joke reveal, too.
Everyone else, please note that it's actually quite hard to write and perform a convincing script for a prank like this. They did *fine.*
In 2018 I Toured the USS New Jersey. And it was one of the most Amazing Battle Ships. And it's worth Seeing. And would Love to see it again.
In 1987 (?) I toured the New Jersey in San Francisco. Unfortunately the hat I bought then hasn't fared well...
I "toured" the Jersey 1985 -1987. I'd go back in a heartbeat. However, I doubt she will ever sail again under her own power.
I spent 45 years working for Kaman Aerospace in the flight test department. I was part of the crew that put the Kaman SH-2 Helicopter on the deck.
Got me 🤣. I Romberg when they brought back the 4 sips in the 80’s. Best Regards!
If another Iowa-Class battleship was needed, it would just be easier to to build a brand new diesel-electric battleship similar to the Littoral-Class destroyers. Much like GG1 locomotive groups wanting to bring an existing GG1 back into operation; it's easier to get the plans and build a GG1 from scratch, allowing for the incorporation of the necessary equipment required by Amtrak and the FRA to allow for operation on the Northeast Corridor.
You really had me going for a while with the April Fool's joke. Good job. :) I am glad that it appears that both you and New Jersey will continue to be around. I hope the same is to be said for our battleship, the TEXAS! I always look forward to all of your videos. Keep up the great work that you do. God bless.
Would've been nice to see such a ship sailing on the high seas again. Though I'm sticking with the idea that should the navy seek the might of battleships again then they'd construct brand new ships, being the better long term investment
Depends on how fast they need them. You'd be 2-3 years out to build new. If we even have a shipyard capable of building a large armored vessel anymore.😞
@@eldonerc2524 : It would probably take at least half a year to bring a battleship to a usable state too. As for the shipyards, I'm certain that we have large enough yards (modern cargo vehicles are much larger), and it's not like anyone actually has any yards specialized to armored ships anymore.
Modernized Montana with missile batteries instead of big gun turrets anyone (okay maybe keep on big gun turret with something like high velocity 10 inch rapid firing guns)? Oh and nuclear powered too.
@@eldonerc2524 They would probably need to refurbish the few remaining drydocks capable of handling them (since they haven't been used in decades) so add another year onto that estimate.
@@alexwalker2582 If I remember correctly, USS Missouri had been into drydock #4 at Pearl in 2009. That drydock is still active.
I spent a lot of time on the Bunker Hill (a Ticonderoga cruiser) as a kid and it feels super weird to think of her all rusty in Bremerton.
This is so cool to see and old war horse show how its done
Damn, you got me!
For the first few seconds I thought one of my dreams had finally come true!
You raised my hopes then dashed them quite expertly, sir.
Great Futurama reference.
Interesting to hear some of the issues that would be involved in reactivating an 80 year old ship.
You know, with modern "modular" upgrades.... it is possible that they would/could reactivate her.
Many new weapon systems are "bolt on" with no deck penetration. this means, the attach directly to the deck of a ship with ammo, targeting and everything directly housed in the weapon system, and the only thing that needs to pass TO the ship is power and data cables.
What this means is, very quickly the ship could be readied with advanced gun systems including 20, 25 and 30mm cannon. Missile systems including Box launch, container launch, and limited VLS systems. And even stand off missile systems.
The reality being they might remove the x turret, replace that with VLS systems, add rolling airframe and phalanx, as well as typhoon weapon systems. and then add interlink systems. What this would do is turn the ship into an "arsenal ship"
This is a concept the navy has played with, a very low cost way of adding a force multiplayer to battlegroups. Essneitally, the new jersey would lack the targeting systems, long range radars, and such to to fire the anti-balistic missile and long range anti-air missiles, but instead would simply carry them then an aegis class cruiser or destroyer in the task group could "call" on the ship to fire and take over guidance. Essentially turning the ship into a floating missile depout of 100-200 extra missiles. The guns in the front then would be used for shore bombardment, again, receiving feed data from outside sources. This actually lowers the crew needed for the ship,as much of the work from aiming to targeting and such is handled by one of the other ships. Or... Several other ships. This is why the idea came to pass, if several destroyers run out of their own missiles, they can call on the arsenal ship to fire, and while normally each is limited to controlling a set number of missiles, the arsenal ship is not limited to "launching" that many. So if one destroyer can guide 8 missiles in to targets (8 channels) 3 destroyers could contact the same Arsenal ship asking for missiles, controlling 24 missiles total (3 destroyers 8 channels each.)
sadly in the worst case the navy might remove ALL turrets and just pack each turret ring area with VLS launchers... with the crew essentialy just maintaining the ship and guiding it to keep it beside or in formation... really an unglamorous fate, with all of its weapons controlled externally.
Guided munitions
@@rccarsandmusic2641 yep. The whole point to the arsenal ship is to, float, hold missiles, and essentially act as an extra magazine for other ships. without carrying all the expensive radars, computers, and such.
@@user-ft3jq5vi2l yep except the ammo and propellant is hard to get and expensive to make now for "small numbers" because they aren't doing bulk orders, the cost per shell would be to high, and the range is still only 25 miles or so.
plus they would have a ship that could actually take a hit
@@user-ft3jq5vi2l I think the range of those shells is too short for modern combat. Other than shore bombardment against targets with no defences I don't imagine the guns will see much use. Maybe if they developed new guided munitions for the 16 inch guns it would be more viable. Something like a rocket assisted projectile.
I was 52 seconds into it before I figured out what day this dropped. It was the hand grenade hanging from the box that clued me. Thanks, lol, this was hilarious!
Wow! It would mean something big if they called her back.
I would like to think the Navy would want to retain Ryan as a walking reference & expert on the New Jersey and her systems.
With a commission of at least Lt. Cmdr.
I was thinking the same he and others know a lot about the ship. They could probably be contracted as consultants.
After 50 sailors get lost wandering around, they'll commission Ryan as a guide ;-)
@@andrewbesso4257 I'd pay good money to see Ryan go through basic training.
I'd like to thank you for the April Fool's humor! For about 5 seconds I had visions of the Black Dragon taking out Russian ships in the Black Sea! It was a cool 5 seconds.
Fun Fact: the movie "Battleship" was actually a documentary transmitted from the future.
@@IvorMektin1701 Uh no. The only thing that "saves" that film is the very end when they Finally show The Missouri.
@@IvorMektin1701 god bless her, and all the seamen who sailed in her 🤣
@@IvorMektin1701 Nope. And it's not a boat it's a ship.
Wait, they still have those claw machines in the future? Just toss that thing into the sea and let's GET THOSE ALIEN BASTARDS!
😂🤦♂️ u got me not gonna lie im was stoked
I just saw this. No date on it so I thought this was the real thing. Give me a heart attack Ryan!
I love that one of his personal effects just happens to be a grenade.
I think Ryan uses it as motivation to get people to work harder."I mean it I'll pull this pin if you don't clean that bilge!"
Seems to me, in the hypothetical of reactivating any of the Iowas, the Navy would be ahead of the game to hire the primary museum staff as consultants to guide the reactivation process. At this point, the navy very likely hasnt anyone thats served on the Iowas, but the museum staffs have been on them daily for years.
Either way Ryan's career is assured!
That would probably mean a huge pay bump... and I imagine the museum would want to make sure they get the ship back when the Navy is done with it.
🤣 this would be like recommisioning the nokia 3310 into use, u would need to rebuild the entire network in order to use those 3310s
There is a video on Drachinifel’s channel, where he talks to former Iowa captain, so there are some people around who have served on Iowas.
They would need the Museum staff for a while, just to be able to FIND everything on that ship! All the new guys would be seriously lost below decks!
Wow, I'll bet the navy will update New Jersey to be better than the anima Battleship Yamato, 🚢🛸 it'll be sweet to see New Jersey flying into space. 😇
But would the Navy equip New Jersey with a wave gun?
Space Battleship New Jersey an instant anime hit.
@@ReclinedPhysicist at least among the young adult population giant ship and robot sci fy anime and animation seems to have fallen out of flavor, its just not really being made as much compaired to martial arts and hero anime you just dont see it as much in the new releases, though gundam has its crowd, even though it never was as huge as sailor moon or dragon ball, or for that matter pokemon.
@@ReclinedPhysicist Space Battleship New Jersey! Less salt water damage than Space Battleship Yamato! Better able to rescue passengers from Space Cruise Liner Titanic when it hits an asteroid.
Lol...U S. Space Force..would make an awesome Plasma Cannon
Ryan, there are actually five active Navy ships left that operate on conventional 600# steam: LHDs 1 - 5. LHD 6 was also a steam ship, but she was destroyed by fire next to the pier in San Diego. Her younger sisters are all still steaming as front line amphibious ships! They are not likely to be decommissioned for a long time, but the newer LHDs and LHAs are all gas turbine/electric drive ships. LHD 8 (MAKIN ISLAND) was the first of the LHA/D ships to be delivered with the new propulsion plant.
Damn you got me! I was excited 😂
You've said that it would hypothetically be around two billion to reactivate an Iowa class today. This compares to their as built cost of 100 million (1.6 Billion in 2022 dollars). Say we wanted to build a new Iowa class to the same 1944 specs, with the production issues, logistical challenges, and impossibility of trying to make things like the 16" barrels and engines, what would it cost now? Anything can be remade, ect. given ENOUGH money, right? What would it take? 5 Billion? 10? Just a fun thought experiment.
I think I’ve read that there is an assortment of unfinished barrels laying in a field somewhere.
@@johncox2865 And if those weren't there, do we have the infrastructure and machines to make new ones, what would the timeline be to set up a plant for them? They were specialty items with *years* of lead time even back then... to make them new today without already having the means to produce them would be quite the challenge.
2 billion worth the cost to activate a Iowa class battleship , the govt spends that much to give clean needles to drug addicts each year
It would be pretty much impossible, similar to trying to build another Saturn V. The manufacturing techniques involved in the F1 engines haven’t been used since and are as effectively lost to us as Greek fire, and those are 30 years newer than the Iowas.
You would basically have to build an entire new production line for every single component, and make every piece bespoke. It’d make the F-35 look an absolute bargain in comparison.
@mrb692 : Fun fact- there's already a new version of the F-1 engine, using modern construction techniques. It was developed for a bid for part of the SLS program.
As for basically any of the Iowa's parts, anything that was needed but unavailable would be replaced with "close enough" components- for example, it's possible that everything from boilers to shafts would get replaced with a fleet's worth of generators and electric motors. Similarly, for the guns they might well just pull them out from one of another of the turrets, and finagle some missile launchers in where the barrels had been.
Only in my dreams, and I’d be young and able to man my battle station again! Great video, thanks for getting the weekend started right!
That helicarrier conversion is going to be sweet.
that would be fucking sick
I can remember when the New Jersey was activated for duty off Vietnam. I was on Catalina when the NJ was having target practice on a navy owned island.
Ryan, great content as always. Just an FYI for you and your viewers. The USS ORLECK has arrived in Jacksonville FL, to her new home. To be a part of the Jacksonville Naval Museum.
As cool as it would be to see those guns brought to bear on the enemy once again, it won't happen.
Basically because it would be a logistical nightmare. Less and less ships are using fuel oil, parts aren't available anymore, Many MOS's would need to be brought back. So as awesome as it would be to see these legendary vessels doing what they were designed for once again, its just not practical.
All use diesel the New Jersey runs on Diesel dude Americans make things happen they can build anything
@@michaelcoachtechvp2846 Could you and should you are two entirely different things. Could you fire the boilers with a different fuel, possibly. Should you? Probably not.
@@sparkplug1018 thats what they where fired with in the 1980’s diesel they retrofitted the boiler burners.
@@michaelcoachtechvp2846 Id like a source on that, since as far as I am aware they'd always been fired on fuel oil.
@T.J. Kong I think I remember a video about it, but from what I recall, and I could be wrong wouldn't be the first time, but he was discussing why diesel was a bad choice. Probably way off, that's why I'm looking for a source on that conversion.
It would be sooo cost prohibitive to bring a ship like N.J. back to fighting trim that it would actually be cheaper to build a BRAND NEW battlewagon than to reactivate any of the old ones.
I wonder if at some point in the future the navy will have to bring back big(ger) guns. Missile countermeasures and ECM are getting more effective and large caliber naval artillery could have some advantages at least as a backup weapon. Hard to jam or shoot down a big "dumb" shell moving at very high speeds. The Navy axed the railgun in favor of pursuing hyper velocity projectiles and a 16 inch variant of that would be terrifyingly destructive I would imagine
Missile defense is definitely not up to the point I'd consider them good enough. Guns are space for missiles and firecon, armor is useless, and we have zilch idea about the state of EWAR
screw the dumb shell. a self guided shell could steer it's self. Gravity bombs are already designed to do this.
@@mikewong2440 Right now, you're absolutely right. Missiles are still king and the hypersonic variety will extend that. True also that EWar hasn't been used in combat between two varsity teams, so we have no idea. However, looking ahead 10 or more years I think missile defense systems (hard and soft) will become much more capable as computers advance and are able to track these threats more quickly and effectively.
If it can be tracked it can (probably) be shot down if it has a soft body, like a missile. In that case a dense projectile moving at extreme speeds will more easily penetrate said defenses. A 100MJ railgun shot for example would be moving so fast, with such tremendous energy that the only thing that could stop it would be another railgun (by deflecting or deforming it). _If_ there was a fast enough response. China and Japan are focusing on railguns and it looks like China is close to deploying them on naval vessels. We ignore this area of research at our own peril
@@oldkid8811 I agree, but unguided sabots need to be perfected first. It was shown that specially hardened electronics _can_ survive the ridiculous G forces so we know it's possible. Unfortunately, the US Navy has cancelled the railgun, HVP, and is about to scrap it's newest ships. A questionable decision and some senators think so too. They are going to focus on hypervelocity missiles which will take a 5-10 year development cycle but will be cancelled after 4 years, leaving us with the decades old tech we have now. Let's just hope there is never another major war
@@jakeg3733
Some things.
Hypersonics have the weak ess of being too fast for their own good. In many cases they are very much not maneuverable and in terminal attack can only follow predictable trajectories.
Further, most are only hypersonic in terminal attack, remaining at fairly standard speeds until they come in.
With Ryan holding his box, I was somewhat waiting for that grenade to fall off, roll into some pipe, bounce a few times on his way down to the magazine followed by a clip of some battleship magazine detonating.
The in next clip we see Ryan crawling out of the water, sitting on a shore and thinking what the bill will be on loss of that battleship ;)
They'd dock his pay $50 a week until it's paid off.
🤣😂🤣
I got to this a couple days late.
I was kinda excited.
then i saw the date.
Great follow-on to the earlier Q&A! 😉
As for the guns, I know for a fact we have parts for them, including barrels, at the Hawthorne Arms Depot. I've stood under them.
There is no powder and the projectiles are only what is on hand.
@@donraptor6156 the powder is the easiest part to mass produce.
About time she began earning her keep again! Now get the Kidd to scout ahead and maybe bring the Oriskany up and refitted for air protection and we have a good team going.
You estimate a year to get Jersey back up and running???? Peter Berg and ACDC fired up an Iowa class in less than 5 minutes.
Ive seen the documentry.
NOT FAIR !!! You can’t tease us nerds like this ! It’s blasphemy!
I was almost happy for 1 minute. I hope the Wisconsin ACTUALLY comes back
Fantastic!!!
Ryan: "The actual Constitution is not obsolete."
Almost every politician in D.C.: "April Fools!"
lol
“Later on I’m calling Admiral Halsey.”
Yeah, when you get ahold of him, ask him what he thinks of The Hunt for Red October.
Screw that...just screen Under Siege.
He still pissed of the government scrapped USS Enterprise, trust me, why now new ship can ever bear that name
This is the first April fools I fell for this year.
Well done.
Check out Indy Niedell and the WW2 Channel.
Good... I've always liked the powerful battleship with old school projectiles that can't be GPS jammed
As soon as I saw the title, I knew that it was an April Fools prank. I expected a quick laugh; instead, we got a quick laugh and then a lot of really interesting information. Well done!
don’t ruin peoples dreams like that
You broke my heart, everyone wants that ship back in action…except the Navy
Well done Ryan. You really got me with this one. I was super excited at the thought of the Iowa's coming back into service. I had completely forgotten it was April 1st.
AW, you had me going, there! Good April Fool's Joke! Go Navy!
We need the 600 ship now. We've got the $$s. Let's go!
My pop was an infantry man radio operator artillery forward observer in Vietnam 69-70 . He remembered calling in fire missions from naval guns he actually called in fire missions from USS NEW JERSEY when there was as no ground batteries available in the area so he would call in fire missions from the USS NEW JERSEY when “THE SHIT GOT THICK” it how he described it. He thanks any sailor that served on that ship during the years he was there.
I wonder if the Navy did reactivate the ship, if Ryan, or someone like him from one of the other Iowa's, might be brought in as a consultant or contractor during the reactivation process. Given the national / international circumstances (WWIII) that would see the New Jersey brought back, he might even be given some kind of commission. He probably knows as much as anyone the technical details of the ship and how it works so he would be a valuable asset. I could see him heading or designing a training program for the new crew.
shipwrights don't need consultants
It's called involuntary conscription. No worries on the staff finding new jobs...the Navy will take care of that.😉
@@Dano12345100 All covered by the Defense Act of 1952 and later Executive Orders covering them.
I thought that they were going to convert it into a conventionally powered Aircraft Carrier for F8F and F7F Aircraft.... Planned Commissioned Date 4/01/2025
Dear god we would be desperate to bring her back even with modern standard equipment i would be surprised if she survived the war even with the fire power she has it would be a miracle
You got my Attention 😅
Although it would be Spectacular if that happened...
Let her Rest and live out the rest of her life with her New Friends and Family , knowing that she has the MOST BATTLE STARS
Thank You Big J🎉
Actually those ships in the Navy which still use steam power use 600 lb steam plants. The problem with bringing New Jersey back isn't the pressure her plant is operating at. The problem is the equipment her plant uses to generate that steam. Her boilers are of a type that haven't been used since WW II and are very manpower intensive to operate. Modern 600 lb boilers have an automatic control system that greatly reduces the number of people needed, simplifies operations, and New Jersey's boilers would have to be replaced to bring them up to that standard.
I suspect that quite a lot of the old steam piping would fail a pressure test and need to be replaced as well.
Active USN 600 lb steam - 2 amphibious command ships, Most Wasp class amphibious assault ships (LHD) , USS Emory S. Land (AS-39), a second tender - But their boiler technicians/machinist mates will find NJ boiler quite different. a automatic control system can be added and most certainly would be if activated.
Just contact Babcock and Wilcox. They'll fix it up. The company is still in business.
I think very similar if not identical units were in use til much later. m The steam plants from Kentucky went into oilers that were active into the 80s or possibly early 90s(??)
AND... You forget The Big Stick was sailing in Gulf War 1.