I thought I was good with my 55-in gallery OLED TV. It was only when I played my first disc that I realised how unbalanced my visual and audio setup actually was. I was thinking of buying a larger TV. However, considering my listening habits are now 75-25 in favour of stereo music... there is no way I am willing to sacrifice a fabulous two channel soundstage by going with a larger visual display and then being forced to place the stereo speakers closer to their side walls (a stereo soundstage is everything to me). If my listening habits were more evenly balanced, then I would probably consider it. Until then, I'll carry on getting the best out of my listening habits and have stereo music displayed at its fullest. Good content, btw 👍🏻
50/50 in importance imo. If starting I’d get the nicest tv in your budget and then slowly build your audio system over time.Start with 2 channel and build out as your budget allows. Make sure your receiver supports your endgame sound goals.
When it comes to home theater. I started with the receiver first then from there I brought my front three lcr's. That's how I started off. Then from there that's when I started learning about placement corrections and things like that. There are some that states you start with the speakers first, and that's when you spend the most money yet. I went through so many center channels it's not even funny. Put my end game center channel is the Polk audio l s i m 706c center channel. For my budget this is my in-game center channel. So sound does matter. The gear does matter. It's really whatever your budget will allow you to do. Now my lcr's don't match meaning my 70 series monitor towers, with the 706c center channel I know it don't match but the collaboration helps that. I enjoy the journey of getting where I'm at now and what it matters is only to me not everybody else. Thank you for the video happy listening and enjoy the journey.
It depends on several factors, what was the size of your first flat screen? 42" may be a upgrade and with the prices of TV's these days you can move up to 55"-75" for under 600-700 dollars. Audio is the biggest key as it is what truly makes or gives you the immersive feel.
If i watch a 77 inch tv (like i have) it’s a nice pic but lacks immersion. When i add my 12k audio system, it’s immersive. Even if the tv was 40 inches the audio makes it immersive.
Do your research to fit your budget, and you should be able to get the size tv you want, and get the audio system that will complement it. You can always upgrade down the road.
Great video Kyle. I tried to tell other HT influencers to do a topic on this, its a great discussion point and helps people decide where they want to prioritize their purchases. I personally think audio and screen size are most important. I have a 150 inch 720p projector, and a 65 inch 4k tv in the same room. But I go 720p 150 inch every time, size is way more important for the theater feel IMO. I would like to have a 4k projector, but i personally cant rationalize the price for it.
Hey K! I think I have a great system with Anthem-AVM 90 and Parasound JC-1 Mono blocks, and. 5 channel Parasound for my center/rears. I also use a Panny-U. 9000 DVd with an EverSolo/A6/ME! My spks are Monster Elagonza 5.2 spk system and a Velodyne -HGS-18 sub! My TV is a 4 yr old Sony 65 inch! My honey just gave me the ok to get a bigger screen this Black Friday! I’m really looking forward to it! My audio-video guy says my wall can do a 200 inch screen. That’s what I want! My center-rear amp is a Parasound A/52 and I want the big Parasound A-52 5 channel amp to go with my center and rears! I can push out about 220 to my center and rears now but with the new amp I can get up to 450 each channel cause my spks are 4 ohm! My Mono blocks push out over 800 clean watts of pure power! I just wanna say about my spks that my spks are line array spks, with 32-3 inch mids and a 1 inch super tweet! They also have a 10 inch powered sub at 500 watts each. They stand 7 feet tall. I have the 5 foot towers in the rear with 22 mids and 8 tweets and a super teeeter! My system really sounds good! I’m also looking to buy another Velodyne HGS-28 used or an SVS Sub when we move into our home next yr! Thx! 0:15 0:15 and 14 tweets and a s
It’s all about balancing the two. A 20K projector and a soundbar doesn’t work and a $500 projector with a 15K sound system doesn’t cut it either. As Mr. Miyagi said all about balance. Spend equally and you won’t be disappointed and don’t waste money on seats your ass is much more forgiving than your eyes and ears!
Yes, I agree. The same thing goes for the audio equipment as well. No good adding a $5000 Poweramp to a $1500 AVR. At the end of the signal, it's the $1500 AVR that's likely to be making itself noticeable! Keep 'everything' evenly balanced
Getting your home theater is like buying a house. You don’t rush out to get everything right away, rather you save for it overtime. A little bit here a little bit there and only when you have the money and can spend without wrecking yourself financially do go out and get what you want. Sure you’ll miss out on a lot of neat stuff, but in the end it just means you were able to reward your patience with the equipment that works best for you.
For me, I lean a bit more towards audio, especially when it comes to clean, loud, well-balanced bass. But the visuals should be able to somewhat keep up also. Right now, I have a pretty sweet atmos setup in my living room, along with 2 21-inch subwoofers. Unfortunately, my tv is the weak point in the system as it's an older 55 inch tv. I'm waiting for it to die as I can't justify getting rid of a perfectly funtioning TV, but when it does, I'll then upgrade to a much bigger TV (85-98 inches) with HDR and VRR/freesync for gaming.
I'm roughly 65/35 video/audio. It's probably a big reason why I haven't gone all in on a projector and won't just go buy a random cheap TV just because the screen size is huge. I will say that upgrading my audio from a sound bar to a full surround/Atmos setup has improved my experience quite a bit though
I had a projector without speakers. Only the sound of the projector. Now I have speakers in a dedicated room and it's the key. The sound gets you inside the movie.
Saying spend equal amounts on audio and visuals is way too general, novices could be put off by this. Having equipment that is going to work in your room makes more sense. Speakers that can hit reference at your seated position, subwoofer that can pressurise the room. A screen that can give you the recommended viewing angle at your viewing distance is a good place to start. Budget and taste will dictate the finer points where you go under or beyond the points mentioned above! I can't really say which is more important visuals or sound! The sound quality, the ability of the sound producing things makes it so that you don't miss out on any of the sound track. So for me it a decent stereo setup at a minimum. Surround sound implemented well really does bring you into the movie or TV show and adds the extra dimension to what you see on screen. It gets you emotionally invested and I love that! The visuals its just a delight a delight for your eyes. Cmon guys everyone here knows that feeling when you see a really good image and think to yourself "wow looks at that picture!" I think they go hand in hand and you want to aim to get the best for your room, your taste and that your budget allows.
Quick caveat you may have to compromise sometimes, say you have a big open plan space, it may not be possible or practical to have a subwoofer that will pressurise that space so you get one that will give a good affect to you at your seat. May not go all the way down to 20hz in your room but gives you enough for an enjoyable immersive experience!
The visual side scares me. Looking at the kaliscape(plus storage) and then a madvr, plus fancy Projector screen and huge home theater projector, this can easily 2-3x the cost of a decent surround sound system. I slowly built up my sound system, guess will have to do the same for the visuals.
Hopefully, with the prices of massive screen TV's coming down (100 inches and larger), the need for projectors with MADVR processors won't be needed for most people. Even moderately priced tv's nowadays have much better image quality than most projectors, even with the help of processors like lumagen and Madvr.
@Music.Movies.67 I guess for some, being able to replicate a theater experience is important but how long before the cinemas start replacing their projectors and screens with giant led walls? So many advatages over projectors, brighter and more uniform picture, true HDR, no projector fan noise etc. The home theater/cinema industry is always evolving.
For me it’s always more on the higher end audio than video quality because you can always have the ability to change out things to make your sound system sound so much better, especially if you’re in the market for the best IMAX experience.
Yeah, I used to buy my movies based on Atmos content, too. I got sick of watching movies with crap storytelling! To be fair, that's more to do with the way modern movies are made. No wonder most nights I listen to my tidal playlists 😊
Hey Guy, I was just watching your Rythmik sub videos. I just bought 2 of their amplifiers (A370PEQ2) used that work and are actually in their own sealed enclosures (Rythmik made enclosures just for the amps). I had never heard of the company before. Tried both, they do work. But after doing some research. I realized they probably only will work correctly with Rythmiks own drivers, because of the servo feedback. ;-( Unless anyone has any first hand knowledge otherwise? Looking on their website, I saw a question, can I use a dual voice coil woofer's second coil as feedback for your amplifier? They said no it won't work right as our feedback coil is unique to our speakers and amplifier. Any advice would be appreciated. Their drivers are expensive for my budget...
That's their way of making sure they get your money with them and no one else. They want their stuff paired with their stuff only. You can still use those amps to just be regular plate amps, and it'll work fine. You won't need their servo tech anyway if you don't plan to use their drivers. I love my rythmik to the point where I tried to build my own, and even though I was 80% successful, the rythmik is too good that you can't replicate it. Keep your amp and just pair it with drivers that meet the power and ohm ratings and maybe in the future grab some rythmik drivers. If you don't like that idea, if you can return it, do so and see if you can find another plate amp or even an external amp with DSP built in.
@@Kpaceguy Thanks for the information guy. I was experimenting with it last night on a Definitive Tech subwoofer I have. It's plate amp is bad beyond repair (I actually use to run an audio repair shop in NY years ago). I still do some repair work as a side business, mostly vintage equipment, tube & transistor. I stay away from multi channel surround sound units. Anyway without anything connected to the feedback wires. The Rythmik amp has a noticeable humming sound of about 80hz. I found that if I put a 1k or less resistor between the servo leads, the hum goes away enough you don't notice it. But when using it without feedback. It's really easy to overdrive the 10" woofer in this Definitive Pro-Sub 1000 I am driving with it and make it fart, for lack of a better word lol... The Rythmik does have one hell of a lot of analog adjustments on it. More then I have ever seen before! I will have to try and see if I can make it work with a dual sub voice coil. I don't know if I need to divide down the signal coming out of a second coil back to the servo or not. BTW speaking of Servo Subs I also have one of the original Velodyne ULD-15 systems (sub and external amps) in perfect condition. That uses an accelerometer I believe on the woofer for feedback. I don't want to damage anything by trying to put these two together. So I won't try that! ;-) Which DSP plates have you used that you like most? I know with the OEM plate amplifiers that have BASH circuitry, the reliability and chance of repair are low. My experience and someone I currently know in the speaker repair business has told me the same BASH = TRASH when it goes bad! ;-(
I'm the opposite, my eyesight is bad, a 100inch is good enough even at 1080p. I do have a 4k projector, but my audio...yeah - it cost a bit more than my video.
Audio sets the stage. Video cannot set the stage. When people come over for demos, the driving force is certainly not your video presentation. Enthusiasts come over to experience the Perlisten Subwoofers vs the Sony A95L 77” OLED.
I say both
I thought I was good with my 55-in gallery OLED TV. It was only when I played my first disc that I realised how unbalanced my visual and audio setup actually was.
I was thinking of buying a larger TV. However, considering my listening habits are now 75-25 in favour of stereo music... there is no way I am willing to sacrifice a fabulous two channel soundstage by going with a larger visual display and then being forced to place the stereo speakers closer to their side walls (a stereo soundstage is everything to me). If my listening habits were more evenly balanced, then I would probably consider it. Until then, I'll carry on getting the best out of my listening habits and have stereo music displayed at its fullest.
Good content, btw 👍🏻
50/50 in importance imo. If starting I’d get the nicest tv in your budget and then slowly build your audio system over time.Start with 2 channel and build out as your budget allows. Make sure your receiver supports your endgame sound goals.
When it comes to home theater. I started with the receiver first then from there I brought my front three lcr's. That's how I started off. Then from there that's when I started learning about placement corrections and things like that. There are some that states you start with the speakers first, and that's when you spend the most money yet. I went through so many center channels it's not even funny. Put my end game center channel is the Polk audio l s i m 706c center channel. For my budget this is my in-game center channel. So sound does matter. The gear does matter. It's really whatever your budget will allow you to do. Now my lcr's don't match meaning my 70 series monitor towers, with the 706c center channel I know it don't match but the collaboration helps that. I enjoy the journey of getting where I'm at now and what it matters is only to me not everybody else. Thank you for the video happy listening and enjoy the journey.
Audio is my favourite, sound effects with a good subwoofer brings movies to life
It depends on several factors, what was the size of your first flat screen? 42" may be a upgrade and with the prices of TV's these days you can move up to 55"-75" for under 600-700 dollars. Audio is the biggest key as it is what truly makes or gives you the immersive feel.
I will say audio is always my favorite part. Get the biggest TV your money can buy. Always never short cut the audio
I do like audio as well and looking at upgrading. I have a Jamo system with a TCL QM7 TV, I think next is a new receiver to help out my speakers
If i watch a 77 inch tv (like i have) it’s a nice pic but lacks immersion. When i add my 12k audio system, it’s immersive. Even if the tv was 40 inches the audio makes it immersive.
Great Work K! I watch u all the time! 0:15
@@willgatlin8229 i greatly appreciate it
Audio.. good full audio can make a small screen seem larger
Sound all the way for me but I'm 50 so my first surround system was in 1995 with Paradigm towers and a Mitsubishi 35" tube TV 😂
Atmosphere (decor/audio/video)
😁👍
I just upgraded my speakers a little. Made a pretty good difference.
Audio is the key
Do your research to fit your budget, and you should be able to get the size tv you want, and get the audio system that will complement it. You can always upgrade down the road.
Great video Kyle. I tried to tell other HT influencers to do a topic on this, its a great discussion point and helps people decide where they want to prioritize their purchases. I personally think audio and screen size are most important. I have a 150 inch 720p projector, and a 65 inch 4k tv in the same room. But I go 720p 150 inch every time, size is way more important for the theater feel IMO. I would like to have a 4k projector, but i personally cant rationalize the price for it.
Hey K! I think I have a great system with Anthem-AVM 90 and Parasound JC-1 Mono blocks, and. 5 channel Parasound for my center/rears. I also use a Panny-U. 9000 DVd with an EverSolo/A6/ME!
My spks are Monster Elagonza 5.2 spk system and a Velodyne -HGS-18 sub!
My TV is a 4 yr old Sony 65 inch! My honey just gave me the ok to get a bigger screen this Black Friday!
I’m really looking forward to it! My audio-video guy says my wall can do a 200 inch screen. That’s what I want!
My center-rear amp is a Parasound A/52 and I want the big Parasound A-52 5 channel amp to go with my center and rears! I can push out about 220 to my center and rears now but with the new amp I can get up to 450 each channel cause my spks are 4 ohm!
My Mono blocks push out over 800 clean watts of pure power!
I just wanna say about my spks that my spks are line array spks, with 32-3 inch mids and a 1 inch super tweet! They also have a 10 inch powered sub at 500 watts each. They stand 7 feet tall.
I have the 5 foot towers in the rear with 22 mids and 8 tweets and a super teeeter! My system really sounds good!
I’m also looking to buy another Velodyne HGS-28 used or an SVS Sub when we move into our home next yr! Thx! 0:15
0:15 and 14 tweets and a s
It’s all about balancing the two. A 20K projector and a soundbar doesn’t work and a $500 projector with a 15K sound system doesn’t cut it either. As Mr. Miyagi said all about balance. Spend equally and you won’t be disappointed and don’t waste money on seats your ass is much more forgiving than your eyes and ears!
Yes, I agree. The same thing goes for the audio equipment as well. No good adding a $5000 Poweramp to a $1500 AVR. At the end of the signal, it's the $1500 AVR that's likely to be making itself noticeable! Keep 'everything' evenly balanced
Getting your home theater is like buying a house. You don’t rush out to get everything right away, rather you save for it overtime. A little bit here a little bit there and only when you have the money and can spend without wrecking yourself financially do go out and get what you want. Sure you’ll miss out on a lot of neat stuff, but in the end it just means you were able to reward your patience with the equipment that works best for you.
For me, I lean a bit more towards audio, especially when it comes to clean, loud, well-balanced bass. But the visuals should be able to somewhat keep up also. Right now, I have a pretty sweet atmos setup in my living room, along with 2 21-inch subwoofers. Unfortunately, my tv is the weak point in the system as it's an older 55 inch tv. I'm waiting for it to die as I can't justify getting rid of a perfectly funtioning TV, but when it does, I'll then upgrade to a much bigger TV (85-98 inches) with HDR and VRR/freesync for gaming.
I'm roughly 65/35 video/audio. It's probably a big reason why I haven't gone all in on a projector and won't just go buy a random cheap TV just because the screen size is huge. I will say that upgrading my audio from a sound bar to a full surround/Atmos setup has improved my experience quite a bit though
Audio 1st, no question.
I had a projector without speakers. Only the sound of the projector. Now I have speakers in a dedicated room and it's the key. The sound gets you inside the movie.
Saying spend equal amounts on audio and visuals is way too general, novices could be put off by this.
Having equipment that is going to work in your room makes more sense. Speakers that can hit reference at your seated position, subwoofer that can pressurise the room. A screen that can give you the recommended viewing angle at your viewing distance is a good place to start. Budget and taste will dictate the finer points where you go under or beyond the points mentioned above! I can't really say which is more important visuals or sound! The sound quality, the ability of the sound producing things makes it so that you don't miss out on any of the sound track. So for me it a decent stereo setup at a minimum. Surround sound implemented well really does bring you into the movie or TV show and adds the extra dimension to what you see on screen. It gets you emotionally invested and I love that!
The visuals its just a delight a delight for your eyes. Cmon guys everyone here knows that feeling when you see a really good image and think to yourself "wow looks at that picture!" I think they go hand in hand and you want to aim to get the best for your room, your taste and that your budget allows.
Quick caveat you may have to compromise sometimes, say you have a big open plan space, it may not be possible or practical to have a subwoofer that will pressurise that space so you get one that will give a good affect to you at your seat. May not go all the way down to 20hz in your room but gives you enough for an enjoyable immersive experience!
The visual side scares me. Looking at the kaliscape(plus storage) and then a madvr, plus fancy Projector screen and huge home theater projector, this can easily 2-3x the cost of a decent surround sound system. I slowly built up my sound system, guess will have to do the same for the visuals.
Hopefully, with the prices of massive screen TV's coming down (100 inches and larger), the need for projectors with MADVR processors won't be needed for most people. Even moderately priced tv's nowadays have much better image quality than most projectors, even with the help of processors like lumagen and Madvr.
@@LeeLee-fi7mxProjectors are more like watching a movie
@Music.Movies.67 I guess for some, being able to replicate a theater experience is important but how long before the cinemas start replacing their projectors and screens with giant led walls? So many advatages over projectors, brighter and more uniform picture, true HDR, no projector fan noise etc. The home theater/cinema industry is always evolving.
For me it’s always more on the higher end audio than video quality because you can always have the ability to change out things to make your sound system sound so much better, especially if you’re in the market for the best IMAX experience.
Audio, I buy my movies based on the Audio, Atoms. I could live with blu ray 1080p video
Yeah, I used to buy my movies based on Atmos content, too. I got sick of watching movies with crap storytelling! To be fair, that's more to do with the way modern movies are made. No wonder most nights I listen to my tidal playlists 😊
Hey Guy, I was just watching your Rythmik sub videos. I just bought 2 of their amplifiers (A370PEQ2) used that work and are actually in their own sealed enclosures (Rythmik made enclosures just for the amps). I had never heard of the company before. Tried both, they do work. But after doing some research. I realized they probably only will work correctly with Rythmiks own drivers, because of the servo feedback. ;-(
Unless anyone has any first hand knowledge otherwise? Looking on their website, I saw a question, can I use a dual voice coil woofer's second coil as feedback for your amplifier? They said no it won't work right as our feedback coil is unique to our speakers and amplifier. Any advice would be appreciated. Their drivers are expensive for my budget...
That's their way of making sure they get your money with them and no one else. They want their stuff paired with their stuff only. You can still use those amps to just be regular plate amps, and it'll work fine. You won't need their servo tech anyway if you don't plan to use their drivers. I love my rythmik to the point where I tried to build my own, and even though I was 80% successful, the rythmik is too good that you can't replicate it. Keep your amp and just pair it with drivers that meet the power and ohm ratings and maybe in the future grab some rythmik drivers. If you don't like that idea, if you can return it, do so and see if you can find another plate amp or even an external amp with DSP built in.
@@Kpaceguy Thanks for the information guy. I was experimenting with it last night on a Definitive Tech subwoofer I have. It's plate amp is bad beyond repair (I actually use to run an audio repair shop in NY years ago). I still do some repair work as a side business, mostly vintage equipment, tube & transistor. I stay away from multi channel surround sound units. Anyway without anything connected to the feedback wires. The Rythmik amp has a noticeable humming sound of about 80hz. I found that if I put a 1k or less resistor between the servo leads, the hum goes away enough you don't notice it. But when using it without feedback. It's really easy to overdrive the 10" woofer in this Definitive Pro-Sub 1000 I am driving with it and make it fart, for lack of a better word lol...
The Rythmik does have one hell of a lot of analog adjustments on it. More then I have ever seen before! I will have to try and see if I can make it work with a dual sub voice coil. I don't know if I need to divide down the signal coming out of a second coil back to the servo or not. BTW speaking of Servo Subs I also have one of the original Velodyne ULD-15 systems (sub and external amps) in perfect condition. That uses an accelerometer I believe on the woofer for feedback. I don't want to damage anything by trying to put these two together. So I won't try that! ;-) Which DSP plates have you used that you like most? I know with the OEM plate amplifiers that have BASH circuitry, the reliability and chance of repair are low. My experience and someone I currently know in the speaker repair business has told me the same BASH = TRASH when it goes bad! ;-(
I'm a huge fan of the soundavo psb amplifier BUT it didn't have the power i needed
I'm the opposite, my eyesight is bad, a 100inch is good enough even at 1080p. I do have a 4k projector, but my audio...yeah - it cost a bit more than my video.
I asked you that two weeks ago 😅
You're exactly the reason I made this video lol
@Kpaceguy I got the AN 1000 receiver installed on Sunday. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿In the words of B Mac niiiice
Audio sets the stage. Video cannot set the stage. When people come over for demos, the driving force is certainly not your video presentation. Enthusiasts come over to experience the Perlisten Subwoofers vs the Sony A95L 77” OLED.
CEC is the worst thing ever 😂
I say both