Thank you to everyone for the support! We have been very busy but we are working on some longer content for the next couple of months here! Please be patient and stay tuned! 😁
Good on the cleaning guy, could you imagine only working there for 40 years and he already gets new opportunities within the work place #LevelingUp 💪 Noone wants to put in the work and effort these days but cleaning guy gets it ❤
In aviation we use a lot of inconel and it loves galling. Lubrication is a must and if an interference fit is required, a temperature differential is mandatory. But not all steels gall, and some steels don't like heat or LN2. So whatever works for you without weakening the rods is your decision
I did many sets of Mack rods. I had an air over hydraulic press and a driver to push old bushings out and new bushings in. Also had a stepped broach that I ran thru the bushings to size them. Finished them same way you did but had no power stroker. I always dressed the pin ends on a belt sander. Occasionally did big ends but as you said they were usually good. Mack rods were big ! I did a lot of heads as well. Old 6 cyl Mack’s and they were from a Mack truck place that rebuilt/serviced UPS trucks
Always luv the ideal of temperature differential for installing bushings!! Less chance of gauling or rolling metal. Love the content that you guys put out!!
I think you should of used a hammer and the closet size socket to put the bushings in. Then use a brake hone to get the id of the bushing right for the pin. Just kidding. But we all have probably heard of someone doing that. Awesome video once again
I need this exact job done on 24 connecting rods for a pair of MAN D2842LE404, Along with rebuilding 24 cylinder heads and replacing several piston wrist pin bushings. I can’t find a reliable shop locally and can’t source bushings through factory/OEM as they aren’t offered as a repairable part.
No schedule drop and no sponsor. I love you even more guys! I think you should seek sponsors but like soonen and people selling things you use! I’m located in Sweden and I’m seriously thinking about buying and shipping a engine to you guys to check it before it’s shipped to Sweden! Where can I get in touch?
We know that engine machine shops can be dire and cause more problems than they solve. I would rate the Cleaning Guy's skills and knowledge as up with the best of the best. I'm in no position to judge your technique but being able to avoid using force, seems logical to me, especially with a tapered bush. The magnetism point was interesting.The Cleaning Guy should be running a training academy for tomorrow's engineers. Thank you.
Gotta love the internet. Heat! Press! Heat! Press! Lol. Me personally I feel it doesn't matter as long as the end result is the same. And experience tells me sometimes one is better than the other on certain things and it flips on others. Btw the cleaning guy must be bucking for a raise!
Honestly, it is a simple thing to understand. Every iron atom is a magnetic. But when the poles of each of those magnets is pointing off in a random direction, they cancel each other out. But over time, as all these competing magnetic fields are constantly interacting in a rhythmic pattern, it starts to comb those magnetic fields causing them to align, and as more and more aline the stronger the combing effect becomes. Passing them through the electromagnetic yoke rescrambles the poles of the iron atoms so they’re once again canceling each other out.
I remember a video, I think it was on Action Lab, talking about how easy any steel object can became slight magnetized by the earth magnetic filed just by tapping on it. Maybe this this is what happens inside the engine.
Heating in a small oven or even better a heated oil bath (basically a deepfryer) I've found is best at it reduces the chances of overheating. That said direct flame works and if you aren't going that hot and pay very careful attention that it works just fine. The other options make your given heat a more repeatable and less skill dependant result.
Obviously the right way to do this is to press half the rods and then the second half with heat. The key is the randomly select those that are pressed or heated. This process never fails.
No offense meant to you but..... There is a reason you refer to your dad. He has likely learned a LOT of painful things over the 40? years in business. Thank you for your content and reminding me of the inspiration I had at a young age. RIP John Lipsky
Them dumb bumper pins they wont stand on end to mic the pin to set the clearance.... im surprised you guys haven't got a tobin arp PM pin machine you can set length and its a very well thought out machine very user friendly....long since bought out by sunnen and dis-continued, used ones can be found.....they are a versatile machine for more then just pin fitting... also we weld an old bushing to an old pin then remove .010-.020" off the o.d. in the crankshaft grinder so it passes through the rod pin bore they look like your installer that you showed there... we have "innies" and "outties" and on the innie we set the old bushing on the pin where it bottoms on the press stop when the bushing is centered in the rod then weld it solid grind the o.d. and its ready for years of service and centered bushings
Heating the pin end of the rod will expand the diameter. How about dropping the new bushings in liquid nitrogen? We use that method to install cylinder sleeves. No more hammering or cold pressing.
Great channel! Here's some insight from an old guy: If you're doing something that dudes are really interested in, you'll find that everyone is an expert. They all want to be the cool kid and show off. Just ignore them.
Using the magnetic gizmo, some, like my self would be in trouble health wise as I have a pacemaker inserted in my chest to keep my heart behaving its self, magnetic fields are a big no no, probably won't kill me, but it will definetly send pacemaker into a wobble.....
The Cleaning guy still has it. NOW, if you can only convince him to wear the PPE to save his hearing. I'm tested at 72% loss after a 39 year career of loud pneumatics and no hearing protection. Yep, I too am still to lazy to get the plugs.
ah, yeah I know the Physics behind engine parts getting magnetized. If you take an iron needle and stroke it with wool and put it on a leaf that is in a cup of water the needle will point towards a magnetic heading. You can get the same effect by banging an iron rod, and again it will align with the magnetosphere. If you want those to point to north, the needle/bar needs to be aligned with magnetic north, but most align them with the rising or setting sun which is good enough to get you where you're going. As for degassing internal engine parts? Well, those things even with perfect geometry and proper lubrication still erodes microscopic particles of metal which can build up where no one wants it too.
Probably more to do with all the magnetic field and the rods moving during cranking. If you have a compass , install it on the dash, and crank your engine. Glow plugs also make magnetic noise
Managed to show every part of the removed bushing ... except the part outside of the chisel diving point that would be the origin of any damage to the rod. That you hid.
i was wondering where did squatch252 send his farmal H tractor head for resurfacing, if it was your shop it would be very interesting in the comment section. what is your waiting time to process a tractor head from unknown state from the time you get in touch with you to the time you finish the job. i am curious just because he claims it can take months and i have no idea what a small machine shop troughput is. then again he might sed it in other direction and youtube trolls like me will never know untill he get's it back have nice day
Everything in my engineering brain is telling me the heating install has the least chance of distorting any part of the rod and bearing sleeve. I have also seen a lot of cold installs, where the bearing is frozen and the journal is either room temp or gently heated.
Thank you to everyone for the support! We have been very busy but we are working on some longer content for the next couple of months here! Please be patient and stay tuned! 😁
Keep that shop running!
That is more important than RUclips content.
ASK YOUR DAD IF HE KNOWS WHAT A GUDGEON PIN IS. AND IF HE DONT THEN FIRE HIM . OTHERE WISE HE WILL TELL YOU THE THE BIG END IS THE BIG RIST PIN . 😊😊
That cleaning guy is really making progress in his machining career. Glad to to see people improving
Good on the cleaning guy, could you imagine only working there for 40 years and he already gets new opportunities within the work place #LevelingUp 💪 Noone wants to put in the work and effort these days but cleaning guy gets it ❤
The dedication is amazing!
In aviation we use a lot of inconel and it loves galling. Lubrication is a must and if an interference fit is required, a temperature differential is mandatory. But not all steels gall, and some steels don't like heat or LN2. So whatever works for you without weakening the rods is your decision
I wish all machine shops are as thorough as you guys.
Nice work guys, even the cleaning guy did good.
Love the new CAT content. Please keep sharing new material!
I always find myself wanting to see more longer videos from you guys. I love the way you explain how you go about all of the different processes.
I knew a guy who really started as a cleaning guy in a machine shop. Inside of ten years he had worked his way up to supervisor of the whole shop!
I did many sets of Mack rods. I had an air over hydraulic press and a driver to push old bushings out and new bushings in. Also had a stepped broach that I ran thru the bushings to size them. Finished them same way you did but had no power stroker. I always dressed the pin ends on a belt sander. Occasionally did big ends but as you said they were usually good. Mack rods were big ! I did a lot of heads as well. Old 6 cyl Mack’s and they were from a Mack truck place that rebuilt/serviced UPS trucks
Always luv the ideal of temperature differential for installing bushings!! Less chance of gauling or rolling metal.
Love the content that you guys put out!!
I am impressed by the size of the wrist pins. It sure makes those in a gas engine look small. Interesting video.
Thank you for the content, Teasing us with a count down and then a regular video.
I have been anxiously waiting for another video from y'all. Can't wait for more.
Just busy! lol More coming though! Thanks for waiting!
"You should have" done it the way that works.
No they should have use heat and a press 😂
We usually only stop doing things a certain way when we learn that it DOESN'T work haha so for now we'll still do it this way :P
The real friends were the bushings we fit along the way…
I think you should of used a hammer and the closet size socket to put the bushings in. Then use a brake hone to get the id of the bushing right for the pin. Just kidding. But we all have probably heard of someone doing that. Awesome video once again
Ohhh the memories 😊. I was the Rod guy when I was in the industry,, decades ago. Love that Sunnen machine👍.
I can’t wait to try that bush removal trick!
Glad to see the cleaning guy finally contributing something to society. LOL !
How does the "Cleaning Guy" stay so clean?
He's definitely a pro at it!
Good job. Whatever works is beat. No damaged to rods or bushes!!
I enjoy all of your Videos ! Thanks for sharing !
I enjoy watching your videos, it reminds me of hanging out at Sonny Heck looking at all of the racing engines he was building.
I need this exact job done on 24 connecting rods for a pair of MAN D2842LE404, Along with rebuilding 24 cylinder heads and replacing several piston wrist pin bushings.
I can’t find a reliable shop locally and can’t source bushings through factory/OEM as they aren’t offered as a repairable part.
Doing the temperature differential is the best ideal.
I used to use ton of ipd kits. Never had an issue with any of them.
Very informative video, short and sweet. Thanks
No schedule drop and no sponsor. I love you even more guys! I think you should seek sponsors but like soonen and people selling things you use! I’m located in Sweden and I’m seriously thinking about buying and shipping a engine to you guys to check it before it’s shipped to Sweden! Where can I get in touch?
They have had sponsorship spots in the past
We know that engine machine shops can be dire and cause more problems than they solve. I would rate the Cleaning Guy's skills and knowledge as up with the best of the best. I'm in no position to judge your technique but being able to avoid using force, seems logical to me, especially with a tapered bush. The magnetism point was interesting.The Cleaning Guy should be running a training academy for tomorrow's engineers. Thank you.
Thanks guys! 👍
That hand test fit must feel amazing. Just right.
Great job wish I could get you guys the next time I have to have machine work done thanks for sharing
Excellent quality.
Nice video work, informative. Thanks subbed today!
Thank you for sharing
Gotta love the internet. Heat! Press! Heat! Press! Lol. Me personally I feel it doesn't matter as long as the end result is the same. And experience tells me sometimes one is better than the other on certain things and it flips on others. Btw the cleaning guy must be bucking for a raise!
Right on
The cleaning guy doing his thing 💪
Great video! Hope your dads Allis is still running good!
When pin bushings were installed in Volvo 13 liter connecting rods they are cooled with liquid nitrogen before being pressed in =)
Yeap! The hand fitting test gives you a good feedback if you know what to feel for.
Honestly, it is a simple thing to understand. Every iron atom is a magnetic. But when the poles of each of those magnets is pointing off in a random direction, they cancel each other out.
But over time, as all these competing magnetic fields are constantly interacting in a rhythmic pattern, it starts to comb those magnetic fields causing them to align, and as more and more aline the stronger the combing effect becomes.
Passing them through the electromagnetic yoke rescrambles the poles of the iron atoms so they’re once again canceling each other out.
another job well done guys.
Those rods are huge! Nice
I'm a big fan of the air hammer. You just have to be confident.
No way you should never use temperature fit, JK I don’t know crap. But I know the algorithm loves comments and it helps your channel I really enjoy!
Great video
I remember a video, I think it was on Action Lab, talking about how easy any steel object can became slight magnetized by the earth magnetic filed just by tapping on it. Maybe this this is what happens inside the engine.
Love this stuff.
Look at the SIZE of those RODS ! OMG!
Great video thanks for sharing!
Heating in a small oven or even better a heated oil bath (basically a deepfryer) I've found is best at it reduces the chances of overheating. That said direct flame works and if you aren't going that hot and pay very careful attention that it works just fine. The other options make your given heat a more repeatable and less skill dependant result.
Very good to the point video!
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing 👍
Cleaning guy is moonlighting
I believe heat, motion and duration could produce a force that would have magnetic properties.
Obviously the right way to do this is to press half the rods and then the second half with heat. The key is the randomly select those that are pressed or heated. This process never fails.
No offense meant to you but.....
There is a reason you refer to your dad. He has likely learned a LOT of painful things over the 40? years in business.
Thank you for your content and reminding me of the inspiration I had at a young age.
RIP John Lipsky
Well that Old Cleaning guy’s eyes aren’t what they used to be 🤓🤓😂😂
Ain’t that the truth hha
Very interesting......I wonder how many machine shops demagnetise the rods........
putting the bushing in dry ice to shrink them down a bit may be better then heating the bore.
Them dumb bumper pins they wont stand on end to mic the pin to set the clearance.... im surprised you guys haven't got a tobin arp PM pin machine you can set length and its a very well thought out machine very user friendly....long since bought out by sunnen and dis-continued, used ones can be found.....they are a versatile machine for more then just pin fitting... also we weld an old bushing to an old pin then remove .010-.020" off the o.d. in the crankshaft grinder so it passes through the rod pin bore they look like your installer that you showed there... we have "innies" and "outties" and on the innie we set the old bushing on the pin where it bottoms on the press stop when the bushing is centered in the rod then weld it solid grind the o.d. and its ready for years of service and centered bushings
Good video
How about an update on the farm tractor. Please
Should have one within the month!
Do the customer acknowledge all the work that goes into the service you provide?
Heating the pin end of the rod will expand the diameter. How about dropping the new bushings in liquid nitrogen? We use that method to install cylinder sleeves. No more hammering or cold pressing.
How do you accurately clock those tapered bushings while inserting them? Or is there a little wiggle room?
Awesome video!😊
Great channel!
Here's some insight from an old guy:
If you're doing something that dudes are really interested in, you'll find that everyone is an expert. They all want to be the cool kid and show off.
Just ignore them.
👍👍
Using the magnetic gizmo, some, like my self would be in trouble health wise as I have a pacemaker inserted in my chest to keep my heart behaving its self, magnetic fields are a big no no, probably won't kill me, but it will definetly send pacemaker into a wobble.....
Clever teacher 22
Do you have a good ground on your system (
I just hired your cleaning guy for some benefits
My man, i think heat differential is the best way.
The Cleaning guy still has it. NOW, if you can only convince him to wear the PPE to save his hearing. I'm tested at 72% loss after a 39 year career of loud pneumatics and no hearing protection. Yep, I too am still to lazy to get the plugs.
Every time I look at the con rod that came from my C32 it always blows my mind how much mass is moving inside that 32L behemoth of a v12.
what is the clearance of the connecting rod pin after repair?
ah, yeah I know the Physics behind engine parts getting magnetized. If you take an iron needle and stroke it with wool and put it on a leaf that is in a cup of water the needle will point towards a magnetic heading. You can get the same effect by banging an iron rod, and again it will align with the magnetosphere. If you want those to point to north, the needle/bar needs to be aligned with magnetic north, but most align them with the rising or setting sun which is good enough to get you where you're going. As for degassing internal engine parts? Well, those things even with perfect geometry and proper lubrication still erodes microscopic particles of metal which can build up where no one wants it too.
Probably more to do with all the magnetic field and the rods moving during cranking. If you have a compass , install it on the dash, and crank your engine. Glow plugs also make magnetic noise
I want to buy some sbi valve seats and guides for a pulling tractor head. I contacted sbi but they wont sell to me. Do you know where i can buy them?
Cool video
Impact , you can magnetize a piece of metal with a hammer .
rod screws bolts have nuts
izin bertanya tuan,alat tersebut untuk memeriksa apa ?
The comments section with now complain that you didnt you black magic to put the bearing in.
Managed to show every part of the removed bushing ... except the part outside of the chisel diving point that would be the origin of any damage to the rod. That you hid.
Look a little closer. It's shown loud and clear. Maybe you need glasses 😭
@@JAMSIONLINE Nope. It was pointed at the palm of your hand the entire time you were twisting the bushing around to show it.
Clever water 12
Fuking awesome. And yes, u did everything correct. Why? Cuz I said so!!!…. Woohoo
Boring pin bushings is actually a lot more exciting than it sounds...
I use heat everytime I install them
Tempdif is the only way
i was wondering where did squatch252 send his farmal H tractor head for resurfacing, if it was your shop it would be very interesting in the comment section. what is your waiting time to process a tractor head from unknown state from the time you get in touch with you to the time you finish the job. i am curious just because he claims it can take months and i have no idea what a small machine shop troughput is. then again he might sed it in other direction and youtube trolls like me will never know untill he get's it back
have nice day
How many engines did the cleaning guy need to clean before he knew when a bushing feels right?
Only 40+ years worth! Would you believe it?!
Short hunter 42
Everything in my engineering brain is telling me the heating install has the least chance of distorting any part of the rod and bearing sleeve. I have also seen a lot of cold installs, where the bearing is frozen and the journal is either room temp or gently heated.
You should have used a press AND temperature difference method. 🤣 👍👍 Its to each their own i guess.
Looks like a Kwik Way RM-100 was cannibalized for your rod boring fixture
We move the fixture back and forth lol. We still have the Kwik way
I'm wrong to
To answer your question, the comments will always say you did it wrong. No matter what you did.
Yo what the heck is the engine cleaner doing on a machine!!!