2 WAYS ya handle it. Seen a Video on another U tube Channel Strong Successful Male the Guy had a GF ask for a Open Relationship so He said to her 'OK be safe' SO after that moment he cut off ALL GF privileges NO more Dinners, calling/Txting every day. He just Demoted her to a Side chic or FWBs he moved on with his life. Took a couple if months til she flipped out and started complaining about him NOT putting effort so He told her why. The Guy said ya make these Girls regret there decision for the rest of their lives. BUT if it's your Wife the very moment she asks YA MARRIAGE is OVER. Just tell her I'll think about it and Secretly go see serveral Lawyers get ya Financial situation in order and File for divorce get ANY evidence ya can of her CHEATING and move on with ya life
I stopped giving womn the benefit of doubt just because they are womn aka dainty little angels. They are all sus until proven otherwise. If the mom is supportive of open relationships, then just assume she is part and parcel of the lifestyle. The daughter must have gotten the confidence to bring up open relationships from somewhere or someone.
Perfect marriages or relationships aren't real; they're all unique. What makes one person happy might not make another person happy. But I've discovered that there's always a solution to every problem. Five years ago, my wife and I were almost divorcing because of issues in our marriage, but we managed to work through them. It was a tough time, but we came out stronger.
I really understand the significance of your words, and I genuinely want to find happiness too. I have a partner, and even though we're not together right now, I can't imagine life without her; my love for her is strong. I miss her a lot, and I'm fully committed to bringing her back. We've explored different ways, like therapy, to mend things.
Letting someone you deeply care for go is always difficult, but in my scenario, I was fortunate to have the counsel of a spiritual mentor who preserved the unity of my marriage. Her name is Suzanne Ann Walters.
Thank you for this direction. I'll swiftly seek her out online. I appreciate it. I'm hopeful that following this course of action will yield results for me as well; her absence weighs heavily on my heart.
When it comes to cheating or open relationships/marriages, most women always tend to stick together b/c they HATE accountability. It's their kryptonite.
The mother shut that question down fast when op asked his dad about what reaction he would give if his mother asked him for an open relationship. Op's mum is for the streets..
@@kwakithailand caring? Or caring about women’s feelings. I only care about my kid’s feelings and my gf. Outside of that I don’t care. If you love someone it’s not easy to not care. I guess I’m a 🐈 then 😂😂😂
This guy needs to cut the people from his life that are not interested to listening to him, or his story. These are people that will always tell him he is wrong no matter the circumstance. His own mother and sisters sound about as narcissistic as his soon to be ex girlfriend.
Some takeaways from this great story: 1. You did the right thing. 2. Female own group preference will always protect the sisterhood over men, especially if they are “ birds of a feather”. 3. Asking that type of question is NEVER just a silly question, but there is motive behind it. As seen here it gives them plausible deniability if does not go their way. 4. Focus on your grind and find your purpose, and do not waste your energy on females (family members included) 5. Stand in your truth. Enjoy your journey.
You are correct , she was setting you up for cheating with another guy ,then feigning ignorance ! You avoided a BIG PROBLEM , don't listen to ANYONE else , you did the right thing !
This is REALLY close to home for me, my Ex once told my mother and sisters that I abused her physically and they immediately took her side, had a family intervention for me, I however took this opportunity to invite the 1 witness i had to said intervention, I stayed quiet thye whole time until MY guest arrived and gave them the cold hard truth, I was defending myself against a woman that was furiously jealous, insecure and absive. I DO NOT SPEAK TO MY FAMILY, its been 15 years since. WOMEN STICK TOGETHER NO MATTER THE CIRUMSTANCES.
He didn't change her at all that's what she wanted to do all along sharing spit in a troft like hogs do he did spare himself heartache for sure by letting her go
One of the hardest things for guy to do is stand on there morals against family. OP your doing the right thing. The women in your life are going to constantly gaslight and pressure you to change your views but you have to stand firm on what you believe in. Yes, they will be angry but they will respect you. And if they keep constantly annoying you, drop them.
The woman tried to keep you programmed my young fella … glad to see it didn’t work. You did the right thing. It would have been you in that triangle with that “changed woman”.
Your female relatives have made it clear they have chosen her over you. I think it is high time to choose you over them. Much less stress for you in the long term, and they might learn that constantly bad mouthing people they claim to love will destroy a relationship. I had to do it. It will hurt for a bit, but they made their choice. You cannot win them back. Do not try,
OP, let me translate your conversations: Ex: I'm considering two-timing you with someone else. It's just a thought. You: OUT! Her: Two times other guys. Your mom and sisters: _You made her that way._ That's how stupid this is. Yes, you dodged a bullet. You rejected her for bringing up the very behavior she ended up engaging in, that she originated and wanted, and your mom and sisters are blaming you for her behavior. smh
I think about open relationships the way I do about old sitcoms: if you ask, there will be no “Cheers,” you will walk “Step By Step” out of my “Full House” and be a “Perfect Stranger”. If you smell what The “Roc” is cooking.
Bro you shouldn't have a gf. Stay focused on your studies, career for now. There will always be womn waiting and available at the finish line to pick winners. When that time comes don't allow yourself to be picked. Instead you decide if you want to pick it not. As a man don't ever be beholden to womn.
Great job, OP. My father always had a saying, "If women are calling you an a-hole... You're doing something right." Protect yourself first. They will not protect you.
This is why no one should get married before 27 at the earliest! She's monkey branching! It was just your time! It's over! Never underestimate the power of the henhouse! Watch your back! They always try to come back! The answer should be "no!"
Women do not think they feel. Their feelings are labels placed on their emotions. They strive to feel alive, for that emotional rush, that chemistry, that spark that they all feel they are entitled to in life. In their mind, questions on open marriage is just testing the boundary of the relationship, to see how far they can go to achieve their feelings. They never outwardly expect it be a deal breaker, but if the roles were reversed would feel the man was in the wrong and hold it over his head forever. In any situation where a woman makes a mistake, women position themselves to transfer the blame to the man claiming he over reacted otherwise they have take responsibility for their action and the consequences that result. This is why we see in this story the sisters and mother telling him he over reacted. It is only natural for them to say that, otherwise they would have to admit another woman made a mistake. God forbid a woman can make a mistake. Think about it how many times does a man have to apologize, own his mistake, compared to a woman in any relationship? The only time that will happen is when she is caught and there is no escaping it. Even then she will play the I made a mistake card to get out of taking responsibility and face the consequences. She will expect forgiveness and forget about it, something women rarely do for men they claim to love. They forget a mistake is one thing but a choice is quite another. In this case, she asks the question, which is a choice, she failed to take into account the consequences which was her mistake. OP NTA, and yes you dogged the bullet. Also, I like how you reversed the qeustion on your mother to your dad and how she blew up, over reacting, proving the open marriage question was the wrong.
Yeah from all the stories that we heard here, most likely one or all of the women in your family are cheating or cheated. Also you are doing the right thing. Regrets for women don't start till they hit 25 and up.
OP honestly, there’s more wrong with that girl than the open relationship question. That girl is childish as hell and annoying. Keep your family out of your relationships. They’re too invested.
When they ask for an open relationship you have either been cheating or they have someone in mind and have already been setting up something!! Yea you did it rite!! You dipped !! Just (don't walk away !RUN !!) She showded you who she really is!! Belive her !!
Boy, you did good getting rid of that user, I guarantee she was going to cheat on you. You don't owe her anything.Stand strong don't let dodgy women use up your resources. Move on for yourself.
You did right by yourself, OP! You listened to your gut about a cheater and you cut it off. I'll never forget the lesson on how tight women's ingroup bias towards other women are when I was a teen and its why I'll never let myself be maneuvered into a situation where I'll be on the wrong side of it. Believe it or not, you also highlighted how big of an outgroup bias towards women that men have by your father tacitly approving and allowing her to stay in his home, eat his family's food and associate with them after she asked to cheat on you. Do what makes you happy and healthy, OP. Society wants nothing good for you and only to make you a slave to a hole.
Notice how the mother, sister, and the ex were trying to manipulate him/shame him or even downright emotionally abuse the dude into doing what they wanted? Notice how the father is on the guys side AND is keeping chill about it? There is a saying by Zig Ziglar "Circumstances don't create character. They reveal character." This is so apt here for all the women in the story and the father of this man.
One of the BEST responses to 'open' relationships I came across was from another men's channel, SSM, was a guy who basically said ok. He pulled out his phone called a woman who had been 'hitting' on him(he had never responded) made a date with her, that night, got up slowly dressed, while the GF was pleading for him to not go. He went, stayed the night, came back that morning, told her and the woman's friend, who came over, that the relationship was over.
great job young man. you did the correct thing! never tolerate disrespect no matter who its from never ever forget what your own siblings did and said and how they treated you. they chose a random person over you. always remember they are never to be trusted. When your X bursted into your parents room - remember what was said. the story that was given and what was said was lies about you - proving your X was not a true real good person - fake lying cheating X.
I don't say to my wife 'What do you think about electric cars?' if I haven't been thinking about buying one myself. Same goes for open relationships... if you bring it up you've been at least contemplating whether you could do it or not. The probability is, of course, that you've already begun.
Once trust is gone it's over. Whether it's relationships or family. Women who support cheaters just because they're female need karma 10 fold, especially picking a cheater over their own son/ or brother. Never let anyone gaslight you into accepting disrespect.
You did the right thing by dumping his cheating girlfriend she proved that she's a cheater that goes right after that she went and started dealing with two guys so she probably was already cheating she just wanted permission.
You did the right thing! God doesn’t like cheaters.
2 месяца назад+1
When a mother and sisters side with the cheating partner instead of defending their own kin, it only means they identify with the cheater because they share some of the same features. But honestly, they are 18 yo. They still have to grow and mature a lot.
Guys we know the M.O. if a partner asks for one it's one of three things. Currently cheating, a partner on stand by,or both. OP dodged the silver bullet.
OP thought he had a loyal, monogamous girlfriend, but, in reality, it was just his turn. She was going to cheat on him as long as humanly possible. All OP had to do was be at school too long, study or do homework too long, work too long, not give her enough attention, or she would dig any other excuse from the cheater's handbook to ffff other dudes. Asking OP for an open relationship showed OP he wasn't enough for her, showed him who and what she really was. OP dodged a nuclear missile by not marrying the 403 who is now the town bicycle.
Birds of a feather flock together. Stay on your grind, Detach yourself from the women in your family (Mama included ),Meaning, until they can respect you as a MAN, They have no reason to give their opinions about your personal and professional life.
You'd be surprised how your own mother will believe or take anyone's word over yours. This has happened to me with my mom countless of times. I now haven't talked to my mom in months. And my life is way more peaceful. Blood is almost NEVER thicker than water
Back in the 90s after my first love left me because she got pregnant by someone else my own mother betrayed me for my 2nd girlfriend she knew B was cheating and kept it away from me my god sister told me to dump her as when I got back from out west
Lol the sisterhood of traveling 304s is strong. Countless stories like this where the women in the mans family gaslight and shame him for having boundaries and ending things, they take the wife/girlfriends side and in cases like this or straight up cheating you find out later the mom, sisters, aunt etc. Also were cheaters or did open relationships/marriages. Homie did the right thing and it's never just a question...if they randomly bring up open relationships or open marriages it's because they are already cheating or plan to/have someone in mind. This shit is so frequent and common now.
What amazes me is how there is any argument in the first place especially outside the guy and the ex, like why the heck is everyone else so bloody invested in the relationship and act like they have a say? I mean real talk if you woke up and decided just because the day ended in the letter Y, if you said you are done with the relationship then you are done! They like your ex so much why don’t they date her? That said I totally agree, no one just brings up and asked about an open relationship just for small talk.
OP just didn't doge a bullet but an extinction level comet. also found out the real deal with mom & sis, I'd be grey rocking them for the future. Oh and they are probably cheaters as well
OP should tell his father in front of his mother that he should maybe do some checking on her phone since she "seems" to be downplaying open relationships/cheating and may have been teaching 304 behavior and lack of accountability to his daughters/OP's sisters...and if the sisters wanna play the game, give them some drama...publicly announce that his sisters supported his ex's ideas about being in open relationships giving their primary men leftovers of other men...sloppy. Sloppy nasty. Make mom and his sisters do their own damage control so they will LEAVE HIM ALONE. He didn't make his ex turn into a 304...she already was one. He just couldn't prove it yet. Focus on your studies and your physical health and let these triffling 304's around you do their own thing without you involved. You still live at home and going to college, so you don't need to be thinking about marriage talk right now anyway. Having a stable monogamous relationship while living at home and doing college is fine, but when that "perfect" long term woman head's for the ditch you need to leave her there.
Younger women often have relationships by committee, involving their friends, which is a deal breaker with me. If Im not with your friends, what business do they have butting in our relationship? Make your own decisions. If that's not going to happen, I have no place with you.
From a Christian perspective: his mum isn’t concerned about Open Relationships, or them sleeping together, but thinks he has a demon for not wanting to go to church??? Yeah, none of them are actually following Christianity.
You should send this to SSM channel as well. Honestly bro, think long and hard but it sounds like you might need to cut your mom and sister out for awhile. What if your gf cheats and they side with her? They might think you are overreacting about a question but the fact that they are talking shit on you because she is basically asking about an open relationship is ridiculous! Think long and hard about distancing yourself from your mom and sister Dude you dodged a bullet!
A simple question disguised as an ulterior motive…. Good on you OP for standing your ground! Tell your mom and sisters to F off and mind their own business. Block your ex-gf from text and social media and focus on yourself and your purpose!
The dad is not doing a good job of defending his son. If I was in the position if this was my son, there would be hell to pay of the women in my life ganged up on my son. THIS IS BULL$#IT
First of all you are too young to get married and should be going to college, get your degree and do not pay attention to any of these females. Just have fun with your life. When you are ready financially to settle down and have a family, then go for it. That should be any time after 30 years old and she should be younger than you. There will be many other woman to deal with, so don’t let this one surprise you, because it’s only getting worse with women on this mindset. But, I love the way this young man was mature enough to pose his father the same question. And it’s funny how the mother gaslighted her husband by creating a loud commotion with her son and didn’t allow the husband to answer the question. How his mother all the sudden shot that down. All of these women are highly manipulative and it’s obvious that there are many secrets with the women in that family. I agree that you didn’t do anything wrong. You have standards of living and you are strong in your principles and convictions. Don’t ever let anyone convince you to do things that are against you and what you stand for. Now my question to “The family feud” is where is all the supposedly Christianity teaching with the women in your family, because they are clearly working under a different type of frame work? It’s too bad that your dad didn’t say now wait a minute and didn’t take that moment as a teaching moment to straighten them all out, because from the looks of it the women are not right in the head! Maybe you can still have that conversation in private with your father to see where he stands on this issue? Maybe he can’t really express himself under the pressure of your mother and sister’s weight?
When they refused to look at her text message and fail to see and acknowledge what her behavior devolved into. There was noting you could do. What they say is true....None so blind as those who will not sing.
Geez, If you had another chick lined up, then you would have jumped on the open relationship topic immediately. You should let the ex's other boyfriend know that she's with someone else too. Actually karma will be coming for your mom and sisters. Trust your gut like you did.
Women will put more effort into avoiding accountability and mental gymnastics than the actual relationship. They would sooner die than break rank in the sisterhood. Success will be your revenge
Na you did exactly what you should've done in that situation. They chose her side cause they either did or want that kind of lifestyle hence they support it without any logic. You didn't break her, you allowed her to be herself.
Wahmen who stick together or cover for one another means that they have chested as well. That’s why they gaslit this kid and blamed him for her whorish behavior. Wouldn’t surprise me that mom cheated on husband. Once they suggest an open marriage the relationship is over. She has cheated or on the verge of cheating or she will resent for not letting do it.
Sounds to me like your mother and sisters don't really care about you. They couldn't stick to you when you needed support against the ex, who wanted to be a degenrate. What happens when it's something worse? Like being accused of crime? I think you should cut contact with your mother and sisters once you move out, but keep up with your father. He seems to be the only one who's sensible.
Mom is suspect I would go through her phone, do a dna test with your father, you need to tell your sisters to ask their bf for an open relationship, and tell your mom to ask your father for one and see how they handle it, I will tell them to f off and mind their own business or you will cut them off for life.
There are only 2 circumstances someone asks this question, and 2 circumstances only. 1. She is already cheating and wants a get out of jail free card 2. She already has someone picked out and is probably setting it up and wants your permission to cheat If she gives you the BS line, "If you say no we can forget it and never talk about it again". That just means she will do it behind your back.
This guy came across as very immature. I get that at 19 years-old he had zero life experience. But the way he handled this situation by inflaming the whole situation, with both his girlfriend and then his whole family, was pretty chaotic. On the other hand, his whole family set-up and his relationship with his ex-GF seemed highly toxic. Only his father appeared remotely reasonable and he was well advised to move out and live on his on.
Ten seconds in and it is already clear his mother is a cheater and that is why she is supporting the cheating girlfriend.
2 WAYS ya handle it. Seen a Video on another U tube Channel Strong Successful Male the Guy had a GF ask for a Open Relationship so He said to her 'OK be safe' SO after that moment he cut off ALL GF privileges NO more Dinners, calling/Txting every day. He just Demoted her to a Side chic or FWBs he moved on with his life.
Took a couple if months til she flipped out and started complaining about him NOT putting effort so He told her why. The Guy said ya make these Girls regret there decision for the rest of their lives.
BUT if it's your Wife the very moment she asks YA MARRIAGE is OVER. Just tell her I'll think about it and Secretly go see serveral Lawyers get ya Financial situation in order and File for divorce get ANY evidence ya can of her CHEATING and move on with ya life
Amen Bro (clearly you ain't a Sis). And the sisters too. It's like a Ho Club.
Be interesting to know if Mommy Dearest and the two Sisted Twisters had a history of tawdry lives, themselves . Probolee !
my thoughts exactly
I stopped giving womn the benefit of doubt just because they are womn aka dainty little angels. They are all sus until proven otherwise. If the mom is supportive of open relationships, then just assume she is part and parcel of the lifestyle. The daughter must have gotten the confidence to bring up open relationships from somewhere or someone.
I had the same idea
I like what you did there with the two words
Op needs to stand up and put those women in their place.
Not his house. That's his dad's job. OP needs to bide his time and let this roll over while he builds his future.
Perfect marriages or relationships aren't real; they're all unique. What makes one person happy might not make another person happy. But I've discovered that there's always a solution to every problem. Five years ago, my wife and I were almost divorcing because of issues in our marriage, but we managed to work through them. It was a tough time, but we came out stronger.
I really understand the significance of your words, and I genuinely want to find happiness too. I have a partner, and even though we're not together right now, I can't imagine life without her; my love for her is strong. I miss her a lot, and I'm fully committed to bringing her back. We've explored different ways, like therapy, to mend things.
Letting someone you deeply care for go is always difficult, but in my scenario, I was fortunate to have the counsel of a spiritual mentor who preserved the unity of my marriage. Her name is Suzanne Ann Walters.
Thank you for this direction. I'll swiftly seek her out online. I appreciate it. I'm hopeful that following this course of action will yield results for me as well; her absence weighs heavily on my heart.
I promise you will not regret it.
When it comes to cheating or open relationships/marriages, most women always tend to stick together b/c they HATE accountability. It's their kryptonite.
Blood is NOT thicker than nonsense.
The mother shut that question down fast when op asked his dad about what reaction he would give if his mother asked him for an open relationship. Op's mum is for the streets..
Women don’t care how men feel at all…
At all. Never have, never will. Learned the hard way.
Men shouldn't care, too.
Feelings are for 🐈...
@@kwakithailand 😂😂 I wish it were that easy.
@@aceklub96 what's difficult, though?
@@kwakithailand caring? Or caring about women’s feelings. I only care about my kid’s feelings and my gf. Outside of that I don’t care. If you love someone it’s not easy to not care. I guess I’m a 🐈 then 😂😂😂
guy did good getting rid of the thot gf but he really needs to draw some boundaries with his sisters and mom.
This guy needs to cut the people from his life that are not interested to listening to him, or his story. These are people that will always tell him he is wrong no matter the circumstance. His own mother and sisters sound about as narcissistic as his soon to be ex girlfriend.
This chick is incredibly immature. She isn’t even girlfriend material.
I’ll bet that in her mind she is somehow a 10 😂
Well they’re 19 it’s reasonable to be immature to some extent
Some takeaways from this great story:
1. You did the right thing.
2. Female own group preference will always protect the sisterhood over men, especially if they are “ birds of a feather”.
3. Asking that type of question is NEVER just a silly question, but there is motive behind it. As seen here it gives them plausible deniability if does not go their way.
4. Focus on your grind and find your purpose, and do not waste your energy on females (family members included)
5. Stand in your truth.
Enjoy your journey.
Best comment. 💯 on point.
@@EBaron007 thank you
The women in his life are beyond disrespectful. If he ends up slapping someone or cursing one of them out he’s going to be the bad guy.
You are correct , she was setting you up for cheating with another guy ,then feigning ignorance ! You avoided a BIG PROBLEM , don't listen to ANYONE else , you did the right thing !
Please have a follow up when it comes out his sisters get caught cheating.
This is REALLY close to home for me, my Ex once told my mother and sisters that I abused her physically and they immediately took her side, had a family intervention for me, I however took this opportunity to invite the 1 witness i had to said intervention, I stayed quiet thye whole time until MY guest arrived and gave them the cold hard truth, I was defending myself against a woman that was furiously jealous, insecure and absive. I DO NOT SPEAK TO MY FAMILY, its been 15 years since.
WOMEN STICK TOGETHER NO MATTER THE CIRUMSTANCES.
He didn't change her at all that's what she wanted to do all along sharing spit in a troft like hogs do he did spare himself heartache for sure by letting her go
One of the hardest things for guy to do is stand on there morals against family. OP your doing the right thing. The women in your life are going to constantly gaslight and pressure you to change your views but you have to stand firm on what you believe in. Yes, they will be angry but they will respect you. And if they keep constantly annoying you, drop them.
You need to listen to your dad. Focus on yourself, and better yourself.
The woman tried to keep you programmed my young fella … glad to see it didn’t work. You did the right thing. It would have been you in that triangle with that “changed woman”.
Stick to your guns buddy. You know here better than they do and you knew why she asked even before she sent those text messages.
Your female relatives have made it clear they have chosen her over you. I think it is high time to choose you over them. Much less stress for you in the long term, and they might learn that constantly bad mouthing people they claim to love will destroy a relationship.
I had to do it. It will hurt for a bit, but they made their choice. You cannot win them back. Do not try,
You're doing the right thing. Forget what your mom and sister's think and keep going with school. 🔥
GF immediately started lying to your parents to get sympathy. Dump her for that alone.
Church going people tolerate a lot these days. Shameful
OP, let me translate your conversations:
Ex: I'm considering two-timing you with someone else. It's just a thought.
You: OUT!
Her: Two times other guys.
Your mom and sisters: _You made her that way._
That's how stupid this is. Yes, you dodged a bullet. You rejected her for bringing up the very behavior she ended up engaging in, that she originated and wanted, and your mom and sisters are blaming you for her behavior. smh
I think about open relationships the way I do about old sitcoms: if you ask, there will be no “Cheers,” you will walk “Step By Step” out of my “Full House” and be a “Perfect Stranger”.
If you smell what The “Roc” is cooking.
Bro you shouldn't have a gf. Stay focused on your studies, career for now. There will always be womn waiting and available at the finish line to pick winners. When that time comes don't allow yourself to be picked. Instead you decide if you want to pick it not. As a man don't ever be beholden to womn.
Team Clam.
team taco
Team Arby's..extra sauce...
Blood only makes one related... how we treat one another is what makes family.
Great job, OP. My father always had a saying, "If women are calling you an a-hole... You're doing something right."
Protect yourself first. They will not protect you.
This is why no one should get married before 27 at the earliest! She's monkey branching! It was just your time! It's over! Never underestimate the power of the henhouse! Watch your back! They always try to come back! The answer should be "no!"
Women who defend cheating/having sex with other men are themselves cheaters.
Women do not think they feel. Their feelings are labels placed on their emotions. They strive to feel alive, for that emotional rush, that chemistry, that spark that they all feel they are entitled to in life. In their mind, questions on open marriage is just testing the boundary of the relationship, to see how far they can go to achieve their feelings. They never outwardly expect it be a deal breaker, but if the roles were reversed would feel the man was in the wrong and hold it over his head forever. In any situation where a woman makes a mistake, women position themselves to transfer the blame to the man claiming he over reacted otherwise they have take responsibility for their action and the consequences that result. This is why we see in this story the sisters and mother telling him he over reacted. It is only natural for them to say that, otherwise they would have to admit another woman made a mistake. God forbid a woman can make a mistake. Think about it how many times does a man have to apologize, own his mistake, compared to a woman in any relationship? The only time that will happen is when she is caught and there is no escaping it. Even then she will play the I made a mistake card to get out of taking responsibility and face the consequences. She will expect forgiveness and forget about it, something women rarely do for men they claim to love. They forget a mistake is one thing but a choice is quite another. In this case, she asks the question, which is a choice, she failed to take into account the consequences which was her mistake. OP NTA, and yes you dogged the bullet. Also, I like how you reversed the qeustion on your mother to your dad and how she blew up, over reacting, proving the open marriage question was the wrong.
Yeah from all the stories that we heard here, most likely one or all of the women in your family are cheating or cheated. Also you are doing the right thing. Regrets for women don't start till they hit 25 and up.
The mother and sister can go #Sand.
You’re right pal. If she asks for an open marriage she’s either already cheating or she has someone lined up and ready to go. Relationship is over
Allways stand TRUE to yourself 👍
If she is only 19 and wants you to consider an open relationship your relationship is going to be on life support soon!!
OP honestly, there’s more wrong with that girl than the open relationship question. That girl is childish as hell and annoying. Keep your family out of your relationships. They’re too invested.
When they ask for an open relationship you have either been cheating or they have someone in mind and have already been setting up something!! Yea you did it rite!! You dipped !! Just (don't walk away !RUN !!) She showded you who she really is!! Belive her !!
Boy, you did good getting rid of that user, I guarantee she was going to cheat on you. You don't owe her anything.Stand strong don't let dodgy women use up your resources. Move on for yourself.
Even without cheating ,if she asks about an open relationship it means she doesn't really love you
Mom and sisters are unfaithful.
You did right by yourself, OP! You listened to your gut about a cheater and you cut it off.
I'll never forget the lesson on how tight women's ingroup bias towards other women are when I was a teen and its why I'll never let myself be maneuvered into a situation where I'll be on the wrong side of it. Believe it or not, you also highlighted how big of an outgroup bias towards women that men have by your father tacitly approving and allowing her to stay in his home, eat his family's food and associate with them after she asked to cheat on you.
Do what makes you happy and healthy, OP. Society wants nothing good for you and only to make you a slave to a hole.
Notice how the mother, sister, and the ex were trying to manipulate him/shame him or even downright emotionally abuse the dude into doing what they wanted? Notice how the father is on the guys side AND is keeping chill about it? There is a saying by Zig Ziglar "Circumstances don't create character. They reveal character." This is so apt here for all the women in the story and the father of this man.
One of the BEST responses to 'open' relationships I came across was from another men's channel, SSM, was a guy who basically said ok. He pulled out his phone called a woman who had been 'hitting' on him(he had never responded) made a date with her, that night, got up slowly dressed, while the GF was pleading for him to not go. He went, stayed the night, came back that morning, told her and the woman's friend, who came over, that the relationship was over.
great job young man. you did the correct thing!
never tolerate disrespect no matter who its from
never ever forget what your own siblings did and said and how they treated you. they chose a random person over you. always remember they are never to be trusted.
When your X bursted into your parents room - remember what was said. the story that was given and what was said was lies about you - proving your X was not a true real good person - fake lying cheating X.
I don't say to my wife 'What do you think about electric cars?' if I haven't been thinking about buying one myself. Same goes for open relationships... if you bring it up you've been at least contemplating whether you could do it or not. The probability is, of course, that you've already begun.
Once trust is gone it's over. Whether it's relationships or family. Women who support cheaters just because they're female need karma 10 fold, especially picking a cheater over their own son/ or brother. Never let anyone gaslight you into accepting disrespect.
You did the right thing by dumping his cheating girlfriend she proved that she's a cheater that goes right after that she went and started dealing with two guys so she probably was already cheating she just wanted permission.
Ten bucks says mom has some skeletons in her closet
You did the right thing! God doesn’t like cheaters.
When a mother and sisters side with the cheating partner instead of defending their own kin, it only means they identify with the cheater because they share some of the same features. But honestly, they are 18 yo. They still have to grow and mature a lot.
With family members like his. He needs no enemies.
When THE HELL, are these women gonna SUPPORT their OWN SONS?
Guys we know the M.O. if a partner asks for one it's one of three things. Currently cheating, a partner on stand by,or both. OP dodged the silver bullet.
OP thought he had a loyal, monogamous girlfriend, but, in reality, it was just his turn. She was going to cheat on him as long as humanly possible. All OP had to do was be at school too long, study or do homework too long, work too long, not give her enough attention, or she would dig any other excuse from the cheater's handbook to ffff other dudes. Asking OP for an open relationship showed OP he wasn't enough for her, showed him who and what she really was. OP dodged a nuclear missile by not marrying the 403 who is now the town bicycle.
Birds of a feather flock together. Stay on your grind, Detach yourself from the women in your family (Mama included ),Meaning, until they can respect you as a MAN, They have no reason to give their opinions about your personal and professional life.
You'd be surprised how your own mother will believe or take anyone's word over yours. This has happened to me with my mom countless of times. I now haven't talked to my mom in months. And my life is way more peaceful. Blood is almost NEVER thicker than water
Back in the 90s after my first love left me because she got pregnant by someone else my own mother betrayed me for my 2nd girlfriend she knew B was cheating and kept it away from me my god sister told me to dump her as when I got back from out west
@@Lord_darkside74 man that shit is crazy! That's why I just stay out the way and mind my business.
Remember to cut out toxic people including family
Lol the sisterhood of traveling 304s is strong. Countless stories like this where the women in the mans family gaslight and shame him for having boundaries and ending things, they take the wife/girlfriends side and in cases like this or straight up cheating you find out later the mom, sisters, aunt etc. Also were cheaters or did open relationships/marriages.
Homie did the right thing and it's never just a question...if they randomly bring up open relationships or open marriages it's because they are already cheating or plan to/have someone in mind.
This shit is so frequent and common now.
She's dating 2 other guys and she just uncovered her real self.That's all
What amazes me is how there is any argument in the first place especially outside the guy and the ex, like why the heck is everyone else so bloody invested in the relationship and act like they have a say? I mean real talk if you woke up and decided just because the day ended in the letter Y, if you said you are done with the relationship then you are done! They like your ex so much why don’t they date her?
That said I totally agree, no one just brings up and asked about an open relationship just for small talk.
We need to start a men’s rights protest
OP just didn't doge a bullet but an extinction level comet. also found out the real deal with mom & sis, I'd be grey rocking them for the future. Oh and they are probably cheaters as well
OP should tell his father in front of his mother that he should maybe do some checking on her phone since she "seems" to be downplaying open relationships/cheating and may have been teaching 304 behavior and lack of accountability to his daughters/OP's sisters...and if the sisters wanna play the game, give them some drama...publicly announce that his sisters supported his ex's ideas about being in open relationships giving their primary men leftovers of other men...sloppy. Sloppy nasty. Make mom and his sisters do their own damage control so they will LEAVE HIM ALONE. He didn't make his ex turn into a 304...she already was one. He just couldn't prove it yet. Focus on your studies and your physical health and let these triffling 304's around you do their own thing without you involved. You still live at home and going to college, so you don't need to be thinking about marriage talk right now anyway. Having a stable monogamous relationship while living at home and doing college is fine, but when that "perfect" long term woman head's for the ditch you need to leave her there.
Younger women often have relationships by committee, involving their friends, which is a deal breaker with me. If Im not with your friends, what business do they have butting in our relationship? Make your own decisions. If that's not going to happen, I have no place with you.
From a Christian perspective: his mum isn’t concerned about Open Relationships, or them sleeping together, but thinks he has a demon for not wanting to go to church???
Yeah, none of them are actually following Christianity.
Those who supporting her on open relationship and shamed you for dumping her are also Cheaters trust me only Cheaters support other Cheater....
You should send this to SSM channel as well. Honestly bro, think long and hard but it sounds like you might need to cut your mom and sister out for awhile. What if your gf cheats and they side with her? They might think you are overreacting about a question but the fact that they are talking shit on you because she is basically asking about an open relationship is ridiculous! Think long and hard about distancing yourself from your mom and sister
Dude you dodged a bullet!
This is insane, being a devoted christian but playing down the open relationship/marrige thingy is contradictory.
A simple question disguised as an ulterior motive…. Good on you OP for standing your ground! Tell your mom and sisters to F off and mind their own business. Block your ex-gf from text and social media and focus on yourself and your purpose!
7:43 Ann Silvers M.A.
Abuse OF men BY women: It happens, it hurts, and it's time to get real about it
The dad is not doing a good job of defending his son. If I was in the position if this was my son, there would be hell to pay of the women in my life ganged up on my son. THIS IS BULL$#IT
First of all you are too young to get married and should be going to college, get your degree and do not pay attention to any of these females. Just have fun with your life. When you are ready financially to settle down and have a family, then go for it. That should be any time after 30 years old and she should be younger than you.
There will be many other woman to deal with, so don’t let this one surprise you, because it’s only getting worse with women on this mindset.
But, I love the way this young man was mature enough to pose his father the same question. And it’s funny how the mother gaslighted her husband by creating a loud commotion with her son and didn’t allow the husband to answer the question. How his mother all the sudden shot that down. All of these women are highly manipulative and it’s obvious that there are many secrets with the women in that family.
I agree that you didn’t do anything wrong. You have standards of living and you are strong in your principles and convictions. Don’t ever let anyone convince you to do things that are against you and what you stand for.
Now my question to “The family feud” is where is all the supposedly Christianity teaching with the women in your family, because they are clearly working under a different type of frame work?
It’s too bad that your dad didn’t say now wait a minute and didn’t take that moment as a teaching moment to straighten them all out, because from the looks of it the women are not right in the head!
Maybe you can still have that conversation in private with your father to see where he stands on this issue? Maybe he can’t really express himself under the pressure of your mother and sister’s weight?
When they refused to look at her text message and fail to see and acknowledge what her behavior devolved into. There was noting you could do. What they say is true....None so blind as those who will not sing.
Geez, If you had another chick lined up, then you would have jumped on the open relationship topic immediately. You should let the ex's other boyfriend know that she's with someone else too. Actually karma will be coming for your mom and sisters. Trust your gut like you did.
Women will put more effort into avoiding accountability and mental gymnastics than the actual relationship. They would sooner die than break rank in the sisterhood.
Success will be your revenge
Its never the woman's fault, just accept it, and don't care.
Na you did exactly what you should've done in that situation. They chose her side cause they either did or want that kind of lifestyle hence they support it without any logic. You didn't break her, you allowed her to be herself.
you 100% did the right thing always trust your gut. sounds like your sisters and mum are cheaters.
Dude, stand your ground. Red flags early on..
Bro she was cheating you good
The dad needs to check his wife and daughters. To show his son not to take crap. Men in other countries don't take this crap.
Wahmen who stick together or cover for one another means that they have chested as well. That’s why they gaslit this kid and blamed him for her whorish behavior. Wouldn’t surprise me that mom cheated on husband. Once they suggest an open marriage the relationship is over. She has cheated or on the verge of cheating or she will resent for not letting do it.
Sounds to me like your mother and sisters don't really care about you. They couldn't stick to you when you needed support against the ex, who wanted to be a degenrate. What happens when it's something worse? Like being accused of crime? I think you should cut contact with your mother and sisters once you move out, but keep up with your father. He seems to be the only one who's sensible.
Mom is suspect I would go through her phone, do a dna test with your father, you need to tell your sisters to ask their bf for an open relationship, and tell your mom to ask your father for one and see how they handle it, I will tell them to f off and mind their own business or you will cut them off for life.
U did the right thing
Trust your gut, not your hoax.
So adult, running to his parents.
Cheaters side together …. Your mom and sisters got skeletons…. Church doesn’t mean anything
8:10 mom talks that much smack, sister does too and then mom shoves the phone in my face? That phone is about to become microchips
No woman floats that idea randomly. chances are she has already cheated and wants to assuage her guilt and monkey branch to another dude.
Yup! You *dodged* ...
There are only 2 circumstances someone asks this question, and 2 circumstances only.
1. She is already cheating and wants a get out of jail free card
2. She already has someone picked out and is probably setting it up and wants your permission to cheat
If she gives you the BS line, "If you say no we can forget it and never talk about it again". That just means she will do it behind your back.
This guy came across as very immature. I get that at 19 years-old he had zero life experience. But the way he handled this situation by inflaming the whole situation, with both his girlfriend and then his whole family, was pretty chaotic. On the other hand, his whole family set-up and his relationship with his ex-GF seemed highly toxic. Only his father appeared remotely reasonable and he was well advised to move out and live on his on.
Bud, you were an A-hole (justifiably) and in a hole (with that family). BUT you were RIGHT in such a tough plight. 😂
Polyamory that was a 60s and 70s thing too.
You saw her for what she was
Nope you didn't op her actions did it