@@mkhanman12345 They were G1 Optimus Prime and G1 Megatron upgraded into Beast-formers, but Hasbro decided to replace them with Optimus Primal and BW Megatron. Why I cannot say with 100% certainty, but my best guess is that Hasbro executives decided a gorilla and T-rex were more "commanding" beasts then a bat and crocodile.
@@TFfangeek ty for that explanation. I also wanted to state in my first post that Dinobot was also my fave. Loved his second form and his sword with the first form
I quite enjoyed their RotB incarnations - even though they were mostly underdeveloped - but I have no nostalgia for Beast Wars so I'm sure I missed some stuff that would enrage long time fans.
They did primal and airazor justice cheetor and rhinox not so much They weren't bad they were just background characters But given they had so many characters and the short runtime it was understandable at least they both had great scenes
@@nathanielhernandez3584 That's fair enough I suppose. Assumed Cheetor would have been more prominent though, he's the Bumblebee (or maybe the Hot Rod) of BW, right?
@@HelloMisterJAMWAH of course but they want to focus more on mirage that why they killed off bumblebee for a while you can't have three kid appeal characters in a movie
The fact that they turned Rhinox, a philosophical pacifist who spends most of the original series waxing poetic about spirituality and the value of life and only fought when pushed to his limits, into a silent "Hulk Smash" type of character wielding a giant Warhammer was enraging, yes.
@@orinanime I didn't really see him as a hulk smash character as he didn't talk in the movie and I do think Unicron coming through the portal is good enough reason to fight, here he talks in the next movie
When Primal ordered his crew to "Maximize!" in the film, I was bouncing in my seat. If they had slipped in a bit of the Beast Wars theme music I would have lost it.
My personal favorite Maximal is actually a weird pick. Honestly DepthCharge won me over from his first appearance to his last. His alternate mode was super cool and his brash personality was everything id hoped for. Probably the most forgettable Maximal but he remains my favorite
The ROTB sequel better have more maximals and a bigger focus on them. Like give us two cells that survived, one lead by a lion and another lead by an elephant/mammoth.
I kinda wished that we saw the maximals more and more of them in Rise Of the Beasts, like in the opening scene and Apelinq's fight with Scourge, they could have had in the group of maximals present when he gives the transwarp key to Primal be not just Cheetor, Airazor, and Rhinox but also Rattrap, Depth Charger, Tigatron, and Dinobot, and when they go to flee, Depth Charger, Tigatron and Dinobot elect to stay behind and stay with Apelinq to buy the others time to get from there all the way to the tower thing and launch their ship. Then have the four of them transform to robot mode because they would be alot more effective in robot mode than beast mode, and have them tell each other it was a honor to fight along side them before fighting Scourge together. It would have made for not only a cool fight but also set Scourge up to be more menacing and intimidating by having him solo 4 maximals by himself but then again it would have made his death seem a bit dumb.
great video, I loved it. now both of the factions within the beast era series have videos of their own. I would also love to see a basics video on the 4th maximal character from the film, the female maximal peregrine falcon Airazor. While on the topic of flying good guys in Transformers, I think that Powerglide would also serve as a good topic for a basics video in future.
I’ve got a wild theory: It is well-known that Beast Wars and Beast Machines follows the G1 continuity, isn’t? Well, I presume that bio-mechanic transformers were a consequence of the Headmasters and Targetmasters organic and mechanic combination at the end of season 4. Remember that Vector Sigma was somewhat inside the Oracle’s files in Beast Machines? I think the Oracle is some kind of backup program to hide and protect Cybertron’s main computer Vector Sigma and when the humans and nebulons combined with the autobots, somehow Vector Sigma realized the fact that organic and mechanic life could merge together, allowing it to evolve life in Cybertron. I even kind of remember what Alpha Trion says to Optimus at the end of season 4, something about a new era or a big change.
Another solid video, Chris! :D Can't wait for next week's video on another Beast Wars history! (Although I would like to point out that Nissan is actually pronounced as "Knee-Sawn".
Plot holes have always been a part of Transformers, but the only one that bothered me in ROTB was how the Maximals already looked like Earth animals despite not having been there yet.
i can see them explaining this by having the maximals already having visited earth some time in the past, would also explain why they transwarped to earth of all places
I hope the remaining maximals in rotb finds out that other maximals had escaped despite what airazor had stated in the movie not only that but also the predacons as well
I loved beast wars being all computer animated but now it looks goofy to me, while the Japanese beast wars looks like transformers still. It looks classy
I'm not against reimagining Beast Wars. The original BW series did what G2 failed to do, breathing new life into Transformers in the Western markets. The connections to G1 proved that there is room in the lore to move beyond the original storyline and tell a meaningful, entertaining story with new characters.
It would have been nuts if the Maximals were descendants of the Decepticons and Predacons were descendants of the Autobots, with the Predacons still being villains led by the trex optimus primal
Ah. Ok. I had to look up more information and whwn this began. 1996. I never watched this as I seen some clips and i didnt like the animation. Im going to see if i can watch the first season so i can relate to the movie i just watched. Thanks.
Does the Jungle Planet from TF: Cybertron intersect with Maximals at any point? I remember there weren't named factions, but it did seem to follow the good mammals vs evil reptile dynamic from Beast Wars.
Shame we didn’t get introduced to other maximals was really hoping to see dinobot another thing that got me confused we’re the scorpions supposed to be scorponock and are they predacons does anybody know the answer?
No clue what they were 'Supposed to be'... but with the "timey-wimey" nature of the Franchise now* my current Head canon is that RotB Scorpions were drones like the Vehicons of Beast Machines or the Sweeps from TF:TM 1986 and that one of them survived and developed sapience and later aligned with Team Megatron in 2007 for the events of the first Bay-verse film * I say "now" because even before Bumblebee there were things that wouldn't sync up if you gave them more than 5 minutes of attention... I also think that there is a line by Primal, where he's Commenting on Truck Optimus not being as "Legendary " as he thought he would be... this could be a simple case of "Never meet your Heroes"... but between Primal and Apelinq having similar Beast Modes and with the proximity of that line to Primal introducing himself, and citing that he was Named in Honor of Truck Optimus I'm curious if they're not going to play with the timeline (or like everyone else using the Multiverse as a "Get out of Plot Hole free" card) and clarify that Truck Optimus seen here is NOT the Optimus Prime seen in the Bayverse Pentalogy
Personally I like how RotB combined both primary backgrounds for the franchise, the 'jungle planet colonists' and 'transwarp explorers', to be it's own take on things for its movie universe instead of trying to completely nostalgia bomb with the original series. Having escaped a planet destroyed by Unicron leaves a nice opening for Predacons to show up later.
@@novustalks7525 The Jungle Planet has existed before as it's own separate people what's the need to now make it a future Earth? And where did you hear this? Unless it's been confirmed don't spread theories as factual because you cause a lot of misinformation with that and if it ends up being wrong you got you and a bunch of other people who feel stupid.
@@sizzler9731 i do have to admit the Maximals coming from a potential alternate future earth is a neat idea though, but absolutely should be made clearer isn't actually confirmed
I always liked the idea that they evolved smaller forms to be more efficient and use less energy because Cybertron was ruined and almost drained of Energon after the war. Seeing the size difference between them when they found the Ark is something I'll always remember.
It's a shame we never hear rhinox speak but he looked awesome with his hammer smashing terrorcons here's hoping he speaks in the next movie and I hope they bring in both infernos in the sequel
I kind of like how the movie versions of the Maximals are kind of a happy medium between the Autobot descendant original version and the Cybertronian colonist versions from IDW.
@@novustalks7525 it's very heavily implied they are, since we know/can assume they're not the descendants of the Autobots like the original series, since Primal literally tells he named himself after the legendar warrior of Cybertron Optimus Prime. And considering they had the transwarp key in their hands, it can be assumed they were a seperate colony that, using the key, set out to explore other worlds, before eventually colonising the world we see them on at the start of ROTB as their homeworld
@@anorak3334 their planet is earth in the distant future. That's why they have earth animal forms and why the tower is identical to the one in the final battle and energon is everywhere
Rhinox became my favorite in recent years, he was the first case of a Transformer being openly and innately spiritual, and it was something I just found really interesting. Ironically, one of my favorite Rhinox moments comes to Cheetor as a vision when he powers down to allow Rhinox access to one of his components to fix the pod that is later revealed to belong to Airrazor. The vision version of Rhinox mentions how when sparks come online, there is great joy in the universe and how when a spark is extinguished, the universe weeps. Rhinox was openly spiritual but in a way that felt less preachy and more open to everyone around him; he was the most brilliant of the Maximals, and while he wasn't a spiritual leader, he also did make some very spiritual comments and explanations. When we hear Optimus reading from the Covenant of Primus, it's Rhinox who explains what Optimus is reading and even states where he is reading from in Covenant. We actually see Megatron quoting the Covenant of Primus in the final episodes of Beast Wars, and Optimus even points out that Megatron didn't finish the quote when Megatron quotes a particularly bleak verse at Optimus during their fight. Maybe a future episode can cover spirituality in the Transformers continuity and how it has been represented, along with notable spiritual bots in the franchise.
@@thenewbaronzyafton6860 Back when the show was airing, Dinobot was my fave as well, he's still in my top 5 bots list but he's not as close to the top as he used to be
I am not naturally a very spiritual person, believing more in logic and science, so having Rhinox be not only the brains AND muscle of the Maximals, but also their spiritual anchor, I think affected how I see the universe.. And being a Transformers fan since forever, I tend to think of The Allspark as a little like Final Fantasy's Lifestream.. the source of everything to which everything returns. And since science itself has proven nothing can be destroyed, only TRANSFORMED, its state altered, there's definitely something in that! Thanks, Rhinox. 💚🦏
That blew my tiny mind, too; I wondered who the other gorilla was, and when Primal said his name, I did a doubletake. He's come a long way from being a convention-exclusive character..!
It was just hasbro looking through the long list of maximal/autobot names for something monkey-sounding and going "lets use that one!" for a character that dies in like a minute.
I hope Dinobot shows up in the next film. Not having him in the movie feels like doing an X-Men film without Wolverine. Doable, but something's missing.
It was such a joy to see the boss monkey on the big screen. I just wish my favorite Maximal, Rhinox, got more screentime and lines. Awesome vid as always.
I hope the guy who came up with the Maximal name by combining the name of a GI Joe subline with a car name is getting a lot of residuals from his throwaway idea being used everywhere
My one of a few nitpicks with the movie I wish they were all in their robot modes longer so we can see them more closely and absorbe all the details Other than that it was a perfect transformers movie and sequel
The Maximals having robot modes comes across as such an afterthought in the movie. They only transform briefly at the start of the final battle, but before that battle is even over, all of them are back in beast mode. Makes me think they were originally gonna be beast mode only for the whole movies, and having them capable of transformation at all was only added fairly late into production after most of the climax had already been rendered.
agreed, I can get behind saving their robot modes for the final battle so we can have the MAXIMIZE line, but then we barely get to see them in their full glory _during_ that battle outside of their transformation, which even then is kinda rushed and blink-and-you'll-miss-it
I noticed that too, but it could be a nod to how extended use of robot mode in the Beast Wars cartoon led to malfunctions. Maybe there was a cut scene where they mention that?
Does anyone know if there's ever been an explanation for the size discrepancy with the Maximals and Predacons? As was mentioned in the video, they were originally small beings, in line with the actual animals they transformed into, but these days they are often portrayed as being the same size as the Autobots and Decepticons. That's never made much sense to me, especially when they have realistic animal forms (like in the War for Cybertron animated series).
The in story reason for the Beast Wars/G1 universe is that after the Great War, Maximals and Predacons alike underwent a downsizing to smaller, more fuel efficient forms that also allowed them to more easily interact with other, smaller species across the universe. Chris mentions it in the video. Other franchises like the new film simply have them the same size as the other Cybertronians.
For the modern incarnations its probably so they would matter more in a fight with other cybertronians, at the same time though their beast modes arent explicitly said to be for disguise like the vehicles so its no real problem for them to be this massive.
@@Depth217 funnily enough the original optimus primal concept had him being the same size as king kong. his and megatron's alt modes being inspired by that movie.
Back in the day I used to write my own fanfiction version of Beast Wars with many of the toy only figures added in. I had a whole extra episode planed out where his stasis pod crashes in the ocean during the tail end of season 1. Unfortunately, being aquatic bound, I never found much use for him outside of specific spotlight plots, so I just had him off-lined for all of season 2 after getting caught outside during the Vok death ray. His TM2 form gave me a chance to reintroduce him in in season 3 and tying him into a more indepth plot on the origins of the Transmetal Driver that otherwise just showed up out of nowhere in the show. Also, with Depthcharge around now as well as beast modes no longer being necessary to prevent Energon overload, I was able to write TM2 Cybershark into more epodes than his original form.
I was hoping you'd do Airazor. To be honest, I prefer the Maximal line up from Beast Wars Season 1. I have have toys of all seven season Maximals and all seven season one Predacons.
"Um, ackschually" there's plenty in Rise of the Beasts that points to the Maximals being from the future. Not just the "we're from your past and your future" line, which is clear enough on its own, but also the pretty unambiguous one about Primal being named based on the "legendary" Optimus Prime (which is clearly a later, more mature Optimus than the one in the movie).
I really like how Rise of the Beasts had the Maximals living in solidarity and peace with the indigenous people of Peru. It really played well into the overall theme of intersectionality and teamwork in the movie.
after watching the movie, i felt enough fan service, but now i still want a beast war movie even more. It would give the maximals more lines and screen time. the descendants of autobots is still a great idea, but if they were to reimagine the franchise, i could see them as alternative universe versions
I have a feeling that the Maximals from the movie actually are from the future. The movie has alot if hints towards this being the case. Plus, transwarp technology travels through space AND time, so this is definetly still a possibility
@@MDestron2282: Vague in terms of exact time period, but still explicitly from the future, since Optimus Primal mentions taking his name in honor of Optimus Prime.
Primal outright states he's named after Optimus Prime in the movie when Optimus asks about his name. Primal says he was named after the legendary warrior then tells Airazor later that Optimus Prime isn't how he imagined he would be. I thought that indicated they were from the future.
One thing I don't understand is that sometime the Maximals and Predacons say their names followed by either Maximize or Terrorize to transform but other times they just say Maximize or Terrorize without saying their names first or just simply transform without saying anything at all.
I have to say I’m disappointed with how the Maximals in IDW are just cannon fodder and in particular how Primal was basically nothing. I think if they needed Unicron to have a massive army they should’ve used the Energon Terrorcons the explanation could’ve been the were part of "Onyx Prime’s" tribe who perished on Antilla then millions of years later when Unicron awake it used their corpses as templates for a mass produced horde. This is kinda funny to think of after ROTB where Maximals and Terrorcons fight against each other. Additional I wished they’d made Optimus Primal in IDW based on that little profile for him in that Power of the Primes Next Prime poll that described him as a warlord on Eukaris. I like the idea of Primal being someone who’s grown sick and tired of the tribalism plaguing his homeworld and seeks to unify all the tribes no matter how harsh or crazy others my see him "One planet! One people!" Sure he’d still be an antagonist but at least he would’ve had a personality too.
Anyone else notice that Scourge in the Movie had killed Predacons as well as different autobot symbols.. any chance you could go over the badges Scourge had
According to the Transformers wiki: "The various insignia he wears as trophies include the symbols of the Decepticons, Autobots, Maximals, Predacons, Terrorcons, Mercenaries and Wreckers"
Hi Chris Great video about the Transformers: The BASICS on The Maximals, Keep them coming,Also my favorite versions of The Maximals were The CGI Animated American Cartoon Versions of the Maximals, The Cartoon Animated versions of The Maximals were my favorite Transformers Beast Wars Hero Team, but also my favorite Transformers Faction/Organization/ Hero Team of all time, Also it was such a joy to see the Big Bot and Boss Monkey on the big screen. Awesome Video as always.Also my favorite Maximal was The Big Bot Optimus Primal himself the following information is from the following Comic Books they are:1.Transformers:Beast Wars Sourcebook(limited mini-series)#2(of)3(2007),2.Transforners:Beast Wars Sourcebook Trade PaperBack(2008), and 3.Transforners:Beast Wars Omnibus Trade PaperBack(2009): Optimus Primal, Allegiance:(as of 2023): Maximal,Primary Function:(as of 2023): Maximal Commander,Beast Mode:(as of 2023):Ape(formerly)Bat,Weapons & Abilities:(as of 2023): Amazing Strength and remarkable dexterity, Primary weapons dual barrled Blasters,two missile launchers,twin collapsible swords and a spiked ball on the end,He is also well trained in military tactics and close quarter combat techniques,2.Transmetal Form Beast Mode(as of 2023):Ape,Weapons & Abilities(as of 2023):1.Handgun,2.Machine Gun,Twin Cannons,Melee Weapons:Twin Mace weapons,made of a special alloy,Flight mode consisting of his beast form on a hoverboard,3.Optimal Optimus Form,1.Ground Mode(as of 2023):Quad-Former, Optimus had the ability to transform into a robot, gorilla,armored-ground assualt vehicle, and Hypersonic Jet,Jet Mode(as of 2023):Hypersonic Jet,In robot mode Optimus physical strength is unmatched by any of the Maximals. Also your previous video was magnificent Chris all i can say is:keep up the good work,Also Optimus Primal really has grown to be my favorite beast warrior. The 2018 TF IDW Optimus Prime series really put a new spin on Maximals.also i really like how the Maximals and The Autobots not only meet but also team up for the first time against The Current Terrorcons and their leader Scourge in Transformers: Rise of The Beasts live action movie which i planned to see later this year, Also thanks for sharing Chris and even though you're still asleep and even though I'm leaving you a comment, keep up the great work stay safe out there and have a good day.🙂🟢🦸✌️💪🤩🇺🇲
I wonder why we never gotten a Maximal or Predacon with a human alt mode? I think that would be an interesting concept especially if it's used for infiltration.
The maximals looked awesome in the movie. Primal was one of the best parts from the movie! His personality really fit well with his original counterpart.
Awesome video and I did see TF Rise of the Beasts the other day and it was truly awesome and I still feel nostalgic about Beast Wars both the series and original toys and my favourite Maximals has always been Dinobot and still remember how hard it was to get his toy as a kid but those were wonderful times.
It made me sad to hear all the other maximals are just dead in the movie continuity. It might make for an interesting story how they all came to their demises defending their part of the transwarp key
I would have loved for Tigatron to have appeared on the film. They could have even used him on the first scene as a sacrifice for the others to escape and later or in a sequel to comeback already fused with Airazor. It was a missed opportunity imo 😢
I liked how beast wars took Airrazor from a "little sister" to rhinox and cheetor to being romantic with Tigertron. Her treatment in the movie really angers me.
Dont know if said, but i dont think the maximals in the new movie are transformers that evolved on another planet because of three interactions in the movie. The first being a line from air razor, "we are both your distant past and far future". Then later when primal says his name and says hes named after one of cybertrons greatest warriors. The final one is where air razor and primal are talking and she asks, if i remember right, is this the prime from history and primal responds with he is young. Those interactions lead me to believe that while they are ancient by the time we see them in the movie, that they are from the future and used the transwarp key to travel to the past.
I am a big fan of the Beast Wars and Beast Machines series, so am glad their legacy has not been forgotten. Can't wait to see the movie, and hope it does justice to the characters.
Air razor was the clear standout Maximal. But I gotta admit that Primal just stole my heart with sheer badassness. I loved his robot mode. Sorta like a ninja Optimus Prime. Loved the designs overall.
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Don't think I ever click anyone else's videos as fast as I do for a Transformers Basic video
Other than severely underusing Rhinox, Cheetor & their robot modes, the maximals were great in the movie. I hope we get more of them in the sequels.
At least they got robot modes. Remember Airrazors? Me either
"Huh, Neat!"
Well that movie was too short
@@Getwright- i believe they made 2 completely different bot modes for 2 of her toys for the movie. 0.o
@@jochiedu5 I thought it was too long
In the Beast Wars cartoon the Maximals gained a powerful friend and ally when Dinobot defected from the Predacons and joined Optimus Primal's team.
What happened to that bat guy and that croc dude
@@mkhanman12345 They were G1 Optimus Prime and G1 Megatron upgraded into Beast-formers, but Hasbro decided to replace them with Optimus Primal and BW Megatron. Why I cannot say with 100% certainty, but my best guess is that Hasbro executives decided a gorilla and T-rex were more "commanding" beasts then a bat and crocodile.
@@TFfangeek ty for that explanation. I also wanted to state in my first post that Dinobot was also my fave. Loved his second form and his sword with the first form
@@mkhanman12345 You're welcome. Dinobot is the greatest!!
Can't wait for the new universe of movies with the Maximals and Predacons!
I quite enjoyed their RotB incarnations - even though they were mostly underdeveloped - but I have no nostalgia for Beast Wars so I'm sure I missed some stuff that would enrage long time fans.
They did primal and airazor justice cheetor and rhinox not so much They weren't bad they were just background characters
But given they had so many characters and the short runtime it was understandable at least they both had great scenes
@@nathanielhernandez3584 That's fair enough I suppose. Assumed Cheetor would have been more prominent though, he's the Bumblebee (or maybe the Hot Rod) of BW, right?
@@HelloMisterJAMWAH of course but they want to focus more on mirage that why they killed off bumblebee for a while you can't have three kid appeal characters in a movie
The fact that they turned Rhinox, a philosophical pacifist who spends most of the original series waxing poetic about spirituality and the value of life and only fought when pushed to his limits, into a silent "Hulk Smash" type of character wielding a giant Warhammer was enraging, yes.
@@orinanime I didn't really see him as a hulk smash character as he didn't talk in the movie and I do think Unicron coming through the portal is good enough reason to fight, here he talks in the next movie
When Primal ordered his crew to "Maximize!" in the film, I was bouncing in my seat. If they had slipped in a bit of the Beast Wars theme music I would have lost it.
My personal favorite Maximal is actually a weird pick. Honestly DepthCharge won me over from his first appearance to his last. His alternate mode was super cool and his brash personality was everything id hoped for. Probably the most forgettable Maximal but he remains my favorite
Continuing on from the beast theme I’d love to see an episode on Fuzors and Mutants next!!!!
The ROTB sequel better have more maximals and a bigger focus on them. Like give us two cells that survived, one lead by a lion and another lead by an elephant/mammoth.
Sliverbolt and Dinobot were my 2 favorites.
I kinda wished that we saw the maximals more and more of them in Rise Of the Beasts, like in the opening scene and Apelinq's fight with Scourge, they could have had in the group of maximals present when he gives the transwarp key to Primal be not just Cheetor, Airazor, and Rhinox but also Rattrap, Depth Charger, Tigatron, and Dinobot, and when they go to flee, Depth Charger, Tigatron and Dinobot elect to stay behind and stay with Apelinq to buy the others time to get from there all the way to the tower thing and launch their ship. Then have the four of them transform to robot mode because they would be alot more effective in robot mode than beast mode, and have them tell each other it was a honor to fight along side them before fighting Scourge together. It would have made for not only a cool fight but also set Scourge up to be more menacing and intimidating by having him solo 4 maximals by himself but then again it would have made his death seem a bit dumb.
I Love it I love it I love it I love it ❤️❤️❤️❤️ and I just can’t wait to see this movie 🎥 and my favourite maximal is Optimus Primal
It was a perfect review and it made me understand the storyline for the new movie!
Is anyone else dissapointed that Beast Wars Megatron didn't show up and go "Yeesss."
great video, I loved it. now both of the factions within the beast era series have videos of their own. I would also love to see a basics video on the 4th maximal character from the film, the female maximal peregrine falcon Airazor. While on the topic of flying good guys in Transformers, I think that Powerglide would also serve as a good topic for a basics video in future.
Would love to see an episode on scourge
I’ve got a wild theory: It is well-known that Beast Wars and Beast Machines follows the G1 continuity, isn’t? Well, I presume that bio-mechanic transformers were a consequence of the Headmasters and Targetmasters organic and mechanic combination at the end of season 4. Remember that Vector Sigma was somewhat inside the Oracle’s files in Beast Machines? I think the Oracle is some kind of backup program to hide and protect Cybertron’s main computer Vector Sigma and when the humans and nebulons combined with the autobots, somehow Vector Sigma realized the fact that organic and mechanic life could merge together, allowing it to evolve life in Cybertron. I even kind of remember what Alpha Trion says to Optimus at the end of season 4, something about a new era or a big change.
Another solid video, Chris! :D Can't wait for next week's video on another Beast Wars history! (Although I would like to point out that Nissan is actually pronounced as "Knee-Sawn".
Plot holes have always been a part of Transformers, but the only one that bothered me in ROTB was how the Maximals already looked like Earth animals despite not having been there yet.
i can see them explaining this by having the maximals already having visited earth some time in the past, would also explain why they transwarped to earth of all places
I hope the remaining maximals in rotb finds out that other maximals had escaped despite what airazor had stated in the movie not only that but also the predacons as well
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I loved beast wars being all computer animated but now it looks goofy to me, while the Japanese beast wars looks like transformers still. It looks classy
I’m assuming then the next profile is on Airazor correct? Cause let’s be honest, her role in the movie was amazing yet tragic at the same time
I'm not against reimagining Beast Wars. The original BW series did what G2 failed to do, breathing new life into Transformers in the Western markets. The connections to G1 proved that there is room in the lore to move beyond the original storyline and tell a meaningful, entertaining story with new characters.
I hope I get to see my man Dinobot in the next movie 🙏
"Perdacons, terrorize!"
So I don’t know if you already did this one but would you do one on Glitch/Tarn
I wish the Maximos and rise of the beast actually look like the real animals.
Do Terrorcons next
Maximals!! MAXIMIZE!!!!!
It would have been nuts if the Maximals were descendants of the Decepticons and Predacons were descendants of the Autobots, with the Predacons still being villains led by the trex optimus primal
I miss my knighty boy Silverbolt...
I'll never not hate what IDW did with the Maximals. Did they seriously think it'd go down well?
Nice.
90's:Trukk not Munky!!
20's:Trukk and Munky!!
Ah. Ok. I had to look up more information and whwn this began. 1996. I never watched this as I seen some clips and i didnt like the animation. Im going to see if i can watch the first season so i can relate to the movie i just watched. Thanks.
Does the Jungle Planet from TF: Cybertron intersect with Maximals at any point? I remember there weren't named factions, but it did seem to follow the good mammals vs evil reptile dynamic from Beast Wars.
Not literally, but the Jungle Planet is the basic concept that IDW's Eukaris and ROTB's Maximal homeworks grew out of.
Always Trucks! 😂
Well, that's just Prime...!!!!
Shame we didn’t get introduced to other maximals was really hoping to see dinobot another thing that got me confused we’re the scorpions supposed to be scorponock and are they predacons does anybody know the answer?
No clue what they were 'Supposed to be'... but with the "timey-wimey" nature of the Franchise now* my current Head canon is that RotB Scorpions were drones like the Vehicons of Beast Machines or the Sweeps from TF:TM 1986 and that one of them survived and developed sapience and later aligned with Team Megatron in 2007 for the events of the first Bay-verse film
* I say "now" because even before Bumblebee there were things that wouldn't sync up if you gave them more than 5 minutes of attention... I also think that there is a line by Primal, where he's Commenting on Truck Optimus not being as "Legendary " as he thought he would be... this could be a simple case of "Never meet your Heroes"... but between Primal and Apelinq having similar Beast Modes and with the proximity of that line to Primal introducing himself, and citing that he was Named in Honor of Truck Optimus I'm curious if they're not going to play with the timeline (or like everyone else using the Multiverse as a "Get out of Plot Hole free" card) and clarify that Truck Optimus seen here is NOT the Optimus Prime seen in the Bayverse Pentalogy
Personally I like how RotB combined both primary backgrounds for the franchise, the 'jungle planet colonists' and 'transwarp explorers', to be it's own take on things for its movie universe instead of trying to completely nostalgia bomb with the original series.
Having escaped a planet destroyed by Unicron leaves a nice opening for Predacons to show up later.
They're planet is future earth. That's why they have their earth forms already and why the same tower appears on both worlds
@@novustalks7525 The Jungle Planet has existed before as it's own separate people what's the need to now make it a future Earth? And where did you hear this? Unless it's been confirmed don't spread theories as factual because you cause a lot of misinformation with that and if it ends up being wrong you got you and a bunch of other people who feel stupid.
Also really like how they merge the 86 movie, the Unicron triology and Beast Wars, you can really tell the movie was directed by a huge fan.
@@sizzler9731 i do have to admit the Maximals coming from a potential alternate future earth is a neat idea though, but absolutely should be made clearer isn't actually confirmed
I always liked the idea that they evolved smaller forms to be more efficient and use less energy because Cybertron was ruined and almost drained of Energon after the war.
Seeing the size difference between them when they found the Ark is something I'll always remember.
"Maximals, maximize!"
wait how the hell was this 4 hours ago
huh, neat
Roooarrrr!!!!
How in the world was this 5 hours ago💀
Rattrap, MAXIMIZE!
It's a shame we never hear rhinox speak but he looked awesome with his hammer smashing terrorcons here's hoping he speaks in the next movie and I hope they bring in both infernos in the sequel
His voice inth’ jap series was epic!
We barely got to see them fight dissapointing
@@Mojavekight17 agreed
I think they ran out of budget, heard there was a whole deal with Mirage getting remade to rit his va more and then being set in Peru.
It actually got two words of dialogue, we have to live with that
I kind of like how the movie versions of the Maximals are kind of a happy medium between the Autobot descendant original version and the Cybertronian colonist versions from IDW.
They're not colonists in the film
@@novustalks7525 it's very heavily implied they are, since we know/can assume they're not the descendants of the Autobots like the original series, since Primal literally tells he named himself after the legendar warrior of Cybertron Optimus Prime. And considering they had the transwarp key in their hands, it can be assumed they were a seperate colony that, using the key, set out to explore other worlds, before eventually colonising the world we see them on at the start of ROTB as their homeworld
@@anorak3334 The same line implies they are from the future.
The key allows them to travel through space AND TIME so it's purposely vague
@@anorak3334 their planet is earth in the distant future. That's why they have earth animal forms and why the tower is identical to the one in the final battle and energon is everywhere
Ratrap has always been my favourite. Was the first Beast Wars toy I got. Just loved his snark in the show.
Optimal for me. Had his first and third form
Rhinox became my favorite in recent years, he was the first case of a Transformer being openly and innately spiritual, and it was something I just found really interesting. Ironically, one of my favorite Rhinox moments comes to Cheetor as a vision when he powers down to allow Rhinox access to one of his components to fix the pod that is later revealed to belong to Airrazor. The vision version of Rhinox mentions how when sparks come online, there is great joy in the universe and how when a spark is extinguished, the universe weeps. Rhinox was openly spiritual but in a way that felt less preachy and more open to everyone around him; he was the most brilliant of the Maximals, and while he wasn't a spiritual leader, he also did make some very spiritual comments and explanations. When we hear Optimus reading from the Covenant of Primus, it's Rhinox who explains what Optimus is reading and even states where he is reading from in Covenant.
We actually see Megatron quoting the Covenant of Primus in the final episodes of Beast Wars, and Optimus even points out that Megatron didn't finish the quote when Megatron quotes a particularly bleak verse at Optimus during their fight.
Maybe a future episode can cover spirituality in the Transformers continuity and how it has been represented, along with notable spiritual bots in the franchise.
Mines dinobot
@@thenewbaronzyafton6860 Back when the show was airing, Dinobot was my fave as well, he's still in my top 5 bots list but he's not as close to the top as he used to be
I am not naturally a very spiritual person, believing more in logic and science, so having Rhinox be not only the brains AND muscle of the Maximals, but also their spiritual anchor, I think affected how I see the universe.. And being a Transformers fan since forever, I tend to think of The Allspark as a little like Final Fantasy's Lifestream.. the source of everything to which everything returns. And since science itself has proven nothing can be destroyed, only TRANSFORMED, its state altered, there's definitely something in that!
Thanks, Rhinox. 💚🦏
I like how primes helmet becomes a ceremonial headpiece for the future high council
Still really crazy that Apelinq showed up in the first five minutes of a major motion picture.
That blew my tiny mind, too; I wondered who the other gorilla was, and when Primal said his name, I did a doubletake. He's come a long way from being a convention-exclusive character..!
It was just hasbro looking through the long list of maximal/autobot names for something monkey-sounding and going "lets use that one!" for a character that dies in like a minute.
Well that’s just prime.
Optimus Primal really has grown to be my favorite beast warrior.
But yeah the 2018 TF IDW "Optimus Prime" series really put new spin on Maximals.
I hope Dinobot shows up in the next film. Not having him in the movie feels like doing an X-Men film without Wolverine. Doable, but something's missing.
We’re also missing Ratrap and tigertron
In Kingdom Primal said that Dinobot would have made a terrible Maximal.
But he really was the best of them. He lived with honor.
It was such a joy to see the boss monkey on the big screen. I just wish my favorite Maximal, Rhinox, got more screentime and lines. Awesome vid as always.
There's still hope for the other two movies
It was OK. I kind of wish he was in his robot mode more. He even went back to gorilla form during the battle, lol
That's me with Cheetor.
I hope the guy who came up with the Maximal name by combining the name of a GI Joe subline with a car name is getting a lot of residuals from his throwaway idea being used everywhere
I doubt he's getting a single solitary dime for it
Nice work Chris !
It really brings me joy that the maximals (and my boy Primal) are now world famous.
Truck AND monky indeed
Seeing these dudes in live action was so cool
I love how their designs are a blend of fur, feathers etc and the mechanics of any cybertronian
“Well, that’s just Prime.”
1:00 That is... way more obtuse of an origin than I would have ever imagined. Ever since 1996 I've always assumed it was simply "MAXIMUM" + "MAMMAL" 😂
I don't think it's only mammals.
Like they have birds like Airazor and fish like depth charge
I think my favorite Maximal has to be Tigatron. His spiritual and reclusive life style in Beast Wars really won me over.
My one of a few nitpicks with the movie I wish they were all in their robot modes longer so we can see them more closely and absorbe all the details Other than that it was a perfect transformers movie and sequel
The Maximals having robot modes comes across as such an afterthought in the movie. They only transform briefly at the start of the final battle, but before that battle is even over, all of them are back in beast mode. Makes me think they were originally gonna be beast mode only for the whole movies, and having them capable of transformation at all was only added fairly late into production after most of the climax had already been rendered.
agreed, I can get behind saving their robot modes for the final battle so we can have the MAXIMIZE line, but then we barely get to see them in their full glory _during_ that battle outside of their transformation, which even then is kinda rushed and blink-and-you'll-miss-it
I noticed that too, but it could be a nod to how extended use of robot mode in the Beast Wars cartoon led to malfunctions. Maybe there was a cut scene where they mention that?
@@hostiledodo1150agree with you but the maximize line was so good
@@tommyboy3427 yeah that made me dance in my seat ngl lol
Does anyone know if there's ever been an explanation for the size discrepancy with the Maximals and Predacons? As was mentioned in the video, they were originally small beings, in line with the actual animals they transformed into, but these days they are often portrayed as being the same size as the Autobots and Decepticons. That's never made much sense to me, especially when they have realistic animal forms (like in the War for Cybertron animated series).
The in story reason for the Beast Wars/G1 universe is that after the Great War, Maximals and Predacons alike underwent a downsizing to smaller, more fuel efficient forms that also allowed them to more easily interact with other, smaller species across the universe. Chris mentions it in the video.
Other franchises like the new film simply have them the same size as the other Cybertronians.
For the modern incarnations its probably so they would matter more in a fight with other cybertronians, at the same time though their beast modes arent explicitly said to be for disguise like the vehicles so its no real problem for them to be this massive.
@@Depth217 funnily enough the original optimus primal concept had him being the same size as king kong. his and megatron's alt modes being inspired by that movie.
And what about that bat dude and that croc dude?
@mkhanman12345 They are the original toys for Optimus and Megatron. The show chose to use larger gorilla and t-rex toys instead
My favorite Maximal toy is the deluxe Beast Wars Cybershark. It kinda makes me wish he had a role in the cartoon or at least in the comics
He was in the 2006 IDW bw comics and the 2021 one too
Well,
Incase you don't know already,
The Trans-Metal version of Cyber Shark would be recycled into a new character;
The Haiku spouting Sky-Byte
Back in the day I used to write my own fanfiction version of Beast Wars with many of the toy only figures added in. I had a whole extra episode planed out where his stasis pod crashes in the ocean during the tail end of season 1.
Unfortunately, being aquatic bound, I never found much use for him outside of specific spotlight plots, so I just had him off-lined for all of season 2 after getting caught outside during the Vok death ray.
His TM2 form gave me a chance to reintroduce him in in season 3 and tying him into a more indepth plot on the origins of the Transmetal Driver that otherwise just showed up out of nowhere in the show. Also, with Depthcharge around now as well as beast modes no longer being necessary to prevent Energon overload, I was able to write TM2 Cybershark into more epodes than his original form.
@@Mekboy_ComputerMonster skybyte is just a repaint? That's disappointing to hear
@@novustalks7525 Not really disappointing;
This is a series that, from it's very inception, LOVES to Reduce, Reuse and Recycle.
I was hoping you'd do Airazor. To be honest, I prefer the Maximal line up from Beast Wars Season 1. I have have toys of all seven season Maximals and all seven season one Predacons.
"Um, ackschually" there's plenty in Rise of the Beasts that points to the Maximals being from the future. Not just the "we're from your past and your future" line, which is clear enough on its own, but also the pretty unambiguous one about Primal being named based on the "legendary" Optimus Prime (which is clearly a later, more mature Optimus than the one in the movie).
I really like how Rise of the Beasts had the Maximals living in solidarity and peace with the indigenous people of Peru. It really played well into the overall theme of intersectionality and teamwork in the movie.
after watching the movie, i felt enough fan service, but now i still want a beast war movie even more. It would give the maximals more lines and screen time.
the descendants of autobots is still a great idea, but if they were to reimagine the franchise, i could see them as alternative universe versions
Let’s hope more maximal will appear in the live action universe. That’ll be spectacular.
I have a feeling that the Maximals from the movie actually are from the future.
The movie has alot if hints towards this being the case.
Plus, transwarp technology travels through space AND time, so this is definetly still a possibility
Well, IIRC, either Primal or Airazor mentions being from the Autobots' past _and_ future, so that looks very likely.
@@Brickerbrack Yeah. They kept it purposely vague for potential future movie plots.
@@MDestron2282: Vague in terms of exact time period, but still explicitly from the future, since Optimus Primal mentions taking his name in honor of Optimus Prime.
Primal outright states he's named after Optimus Prime in the movie when Optimus asks about his name. Primal says he was named after the legendary warrior then tells Airazor later that Optimus Prime isn't how he imagined he would be.
I thought that indicated they were from the future.
They are. Their planet is future earth
One thing I don't understand is that sometime the Maximals and Predacons say their names followed by either Maximize or Terrorize to transform but other times they just say Maximize or Terrorize without saying their names first or just simply transform without saying anything at all.
Ahh my childhood, I had a small army of beastwars toys growing up.
I miss them 😭
Get back to collecting bro
I have to say I’m disappointed with how the Maximals in IDW are just cannon fodder and in particular how Primal was basically nothing.
I think if they needed Unicron to have a massive army they should’ve used the Energon Terrorcons the explanation could’ve been the were part of "Onyx Prime’s" tribe who perished on Antilla then millions of years later when Unicron awake it used their corpses as templates for a mass produced horde.
This is kinda funny to think of after ROTB where Maximals and Terrorcons fight against each other.
Additional I wished they’d made Optimus Primal in IDW based on that little profile for him in that Power of the Primes Next Prime poll that described him as a warlord on Eukaris.
I like the idea of Primal being someone who’s grown sick and tired of the tribalism plaguing his homeworld and seeks to unify all the tribes no matter how harsh or crazy others my see him "One planet! One people!"
Sure he’d still be an antagonist but at least he would’ve had a personality too.
Its also sad that they're baddies 😢
Anyone else notice that Scourge in the Movie had killed Predacons as well as different autobot symbols.. any chance you could go over the badges Scourge had
there probably needs to be a whole update on the Scourge video, as well as the Terrrocon one.
According to the Transformers wiki: "The various insignia he wears as trophies include the symbols of the Decepticons, Autobots, Maximals, Predacons, Terrorcons, Mercenaries and Wreckers"
Hi Chris Great video about the Transformers: The BASICS on The Maximals, Keep them coming,Also my favorite versions of The Maximals were The CGI Animated American Cartoon Versions of the Maximals, The Cartoon Animated versions of The Maximals were my favorite Transformers Beast Wars Hero Team, but also my favorite Transformers Faction/Organization/ Hero Team of all time, Also it was such a joy to see the Big Bot and Boss Monkey on the big screen. Awesome Video as always.Also my favorite Maximal was The Big Bot Optimus Primal himself the following information is from the following Comic Books they are:1.Transformers:Beast Wars Sourcebook(limited mini-series)#2(of)3(2007),2.Transforners:Beast Wars Sourcebook Trade PaperBack(2008), and 3.Transforners:Beast Wars Omnibus Trade PaperBack(2009): Optimus Primal, Allegiance:(as of 2023): Maximal,Primary Function:(as of 2023): Maximal Commander,Beast Mode:(as of 2023):Ape(formerly)Bat,Weapons & Abilities:(as of 2023): Amazing Strength and remarkable dexterity, Primary weapons dual barrled Blasters,two missile launchers,twin collapsible swords and a spiked ball on the end,He is also well trained in military tactics and close quarter combat techniques,2.Transmetal Form Beast Mode(as of 2023):Ape,Weapons & Abilities(as of 2023):1.Handgun,2.Machine Gun,Twin Cannons,Melee Weapons:Twin Mace weapons,made of a special alloy,Flight mode consisting of his beast form on a hoverboard,3.Optimal Optimus Form,1.Ground Mode(as of 2023):Quad-Former, Optimus had the ability to transform into a robot, gorilla,armored-ground assualt vehicle, and Hypersonic Jet,Jet Mode(as of 2023):Hypersonic Jet,In robot mode Optimus physical strength is unmatched by any of the Maximals. Also your previous video was magnificent Chris all i can say is:keep up the good work,Also Optimus Primal really has grown to be my favorite beast warrior. The 2018 TF IDW Optimus Prime series really put a new spin on Maximals.also i really like how the Maximals and The Autobots not only meet but also team up for the first time against The Current Terrorcons and their leader Scourge in Transformers: Rise of The Beasts live action movie which i planned to see later this year, Also thanks for sharing Chris and even though you're still asleep and even though I'm leaving you a comment, keep up the great work stay safe out there and have a good day.🙂🟢🦸✌️💪🤩🇺🇲
I find amusing that the ruler council in the japanese continuity consists in a bunch of maximals that look like Optimus (or Convoy if you like).
If Beast Wars taught me anything, don't turn Rhinox into a Predacon.
Also still waiting on the Basics of Tarantulas.
In Transformers Animated, the Maximals even has a cameo in "Predacons Rising."
Right, time to go down a drunk rabbit hole and see if I can't buy some 3rd party beast wars toys lol
My fav Is ratrap, Dinobot, I wish they were back on RoTB
I wonder why we never gotten a Maximal or Predacon with a human alt mode? I think that would be an interesting concept especially if it's used for infiltration.
The maximals looked awesome in the movie. Primal was one of the best parts from the movie! His personality really fit well with his original counterpart.
Beast Wars wasn’t my first trip into Transformers but it was the one that hooked me.
Great video.
Awesome video and I did see TF Rise of the Beasts the other day and it was truly awesome and I still feel nostalgic about Beast Wars both the series and original toys and my favourite Maximals has always been Dinobot and still remember how hard it was to get his toy as a kid but those were wonderful times.
And don’t forget the that some of the others maximals can also transform the ways as the predacons like Blackrachina and Dinobot
Chopper face aka Dinobot I hope he makes a comeback someday
The Maximals are perhaps the most heroic Transformers faction ever, without them, all the universe would have been wipe out
Great to see the Maximals in live-action. Hopefully we see them again soon.
I wonder if Primal and Cheetor are going to get updates because of this.
It made me sad to hear all the other maximals are just dead in the movie continuity. It might make for an interesting story how they all came to their demises defending their part of the transwarp key
Another great Saturday morning classic!! 10 out 10!! Great job!!
I'm only watching til the part where the spoilers for Rise of The Beast then I'm clicking off but I'll be back when I seen the Rise of The Beast.
I would have loved for Tigatron to have appeared on the film. They could have even used him on the first scene as a sacrifice for the others to escape and later or in a sequel to comeback already fused with Airazor.
It was a missed opportunity imo 😢
My favorite Maximal is Rattrap and my favorite Predacon is Inferno.
I liked how beast wars took Airrazor from a "little sister" to rhinox and cheetor to being romantic with Tigertron. Her treatment in the movie really angers me.
Dont know if said, but i dont think the maximals in the new movie are transformers that evolved on another planet because of three interactions in the movie. The first being a line from air razor, "we are both your distant past and far future". Then later when primal says his name and says hes named after one of cybertrons greatest warriors. The final one is where air razor and primal are talking and she asks, if i remember right, is this the prime from history and primal responds with he is young.
Those interactions lead me to believe that while they are ancient by the time we see them in the movie, that they are from the future and used the transwarp key to travel to the past.
Dinobot is my nomber 1, waspinator is 2 , rattrap is 3, inferno is 4 and quickstrike is 5
Beast or Bot, The Maximals will always Maximize and Rise to the occasion.
I am a big fan of the Beast Wars and Beast Machines series, so am glad their legacy has not been forgotten. Can't wait to see the movie, and hope it does justice to the characters.
I always thought the name came from maximum and mammal.
Air razor was the clear standout Maximal. But I gotta admit that Primal just stole my heart with sheer badassness. I loved his robot mode. Sorta like a ninja Optimus Prime. Loved the designs overall.