Escalation!!! | Ouran High School Host Club 1x8 Reaction

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

Комментарии • 38

  • @Aloysius_OHare
    @Aloysius_OHare Год назад +99

    We have to remember, these guys have never been real close friends with females. Sure they have a business to bring them happiness but they aren't friend status like Haruhi and the other boys are with each other. They don't really know how to act around her and it makes their world change. Which i find to be amazing writing how subtle it is.

  • @Arkleo21
    @Arkleo21 Год назад +175

    This is such an interesting episode because its such a product of its time and the social structure of Japan. When i first watched this episode, I was incredibly confused. I didn't understand why Haruhi was treated like she was in the wrong, or why the message felt like it had such a gender specific attachment to it.
    But after multiple rewatches, I understand where this all came from, and have come up with a personal interpretation for the episode. I think the English dub helps with this, because you could take Tamaki's argument about Haruhi being a weak girl, as him not expressing himself correctly. Which is that she was also in danger by acting without thought. She did the right thing stepping in, but did the stupid thing by not accounting for how dangerous the situation was or her own lack of strength. If Tamaki hadnt come to save her, she might have drowned. So I think theyre both right. Tamaki just isnt expressing himself in a way that Haruhi understands.
    And then the Kyoya thing. Lets all just admit that scene happened because this is a 2000s anime lol. But as is already obvious, Kyoya is trying to prove Tamaki's point by playing up the role of villian. The main context reads as he's a man and she's a girl. So shes defenseless and vulnerable against him. Which can be true alot of the time, but in this specific instance I like to think he's more demonstrating the difference in power and strength between them. Showing that underestimating that difference can be dangerous, regardless of gender. It just so happens that Haruhi is weaker than the others, so this comes into play.
    In summation, I don't think the main message of this episode is handled super well due to when it came out. But if you boil it down to Haruhi not understanding how acting without thought can be dangerous even if it's the right thing to do, and doesnt think to reach out to friends for help because she always handles things alone, then I think this episode plays off better. And you can read Tamaki and Kyoya's more gender based arguements as more of a concern for a friend who acted recklessly and didnt account for her weaknesses. So I don't think anyone is technically wrong here. Even Kyoya pointing out how a person's sex matters because men can take advantage of women is somewhat true. Im not fond of how that message was delivered, but there is still truth to it. It just fails to account for the times when woman can also be stronger than men. So the arguement is very gender focused when it should be more person based. But again, thats more of a cultural message bleeding in along with the early 2000s mentality.
    So yeah. I dont know if that made any sense, but those are kind of my thoughts on it. But anyone, I'm looking forward to the next episode!

    • @toastoast
      @toastoast Год назад +36

      I think this is a great interpretation. I've felt this way but couldn't put it to words. Haruhi was right to go help, but the boys weren't necessarily wrong for being worried for her safety, I just think they expressed it poorly

    • @eucalyptusdoesthings7525
      @eucalyptusdoesthings7525 Год назад +18

      I like to think about it this way too. It makes rewatching this episode a lot easier.

    • @Danideeaso
      @Danideeaso Год назад +7

      Thank you for your interpretation you worded how I was thinking

    • @ashleypenn7845
      @ashleypenn7845 22 дня назад +2

      I like how the live action show handled it best. Once Kyouya pins her down, Haruhi tries to raise her arm and when she can't, she says, "I see. So there's THAT much of a difference." She admitted that he did make a good point. She was physically weaker than the guys and most likely couldn't fight off one, let alone TWO of them all by herself.

    • @sandcarad
      @sandcarad 18 дней назад +1

      I think you summed it up perfectly

  • @EternityRose1
    @EternityRose1 Год назад +72

    I always saw the apology as not relying on any sort of help when it was available.
    She if she was alone and wanted to help it is brave to try. However one of the girls managed to run to the others which shows they werent that far away.
    It would be like running past a group of people to stop someone getting mugged in an alley. Congrats you now get to fight a mugger but you could also bring attention to the situation and not do it by yourself... therefore not putting youself in uneeded danger.

  • @ef8379
    @ef8379 Год назад +27

    11:31 can we talk about how good timing it was with that lighting and the background lights?

  • @toastoast
    @toastoast Год назад +15

    "Who would choose to handle snakes?" ...me lol. I find them kinda cute, especially little garter snakes. Once they find out you're warm they just kinda snuggle up to you and hang out. When I was little I went to a cabin with my cousins and we collected a bucket full of garter snakes just like Tamaki in this episode 😂 I obviously don't go searching for snakes anymore, especially because I live in an area with rattlesnakes, but I've never had a problem with them.

  • @ShineeSylveon
    @ShineeSylveon Год назад +24

    I always love seeing you jamming out to this opening. I really like the English version of this song a lot

  • @cynical9165
    @cynical9165 Год назад +18

    This is one of my favorite episodes.

  • @puddin.ilikejjk
    @puddin.ilikejjk 4 месяца назад +4

    the way he smiles awkwardly 😭😭 11:34

  • @ultracringe0
    @ultracringe0 7 дней назад

    I LOVEEEE watching reaction videos on shows I love while I do my APUSH homework. It helps so much. Thank you!

  • @Hunka777
    @Hunka777 Год назад +20

    im not sure what exactly the problem was its a little confusing to me. but maybe they were mad that she put herself in danger because then THEY would be sad at their friend getting hurt... i still agree if there are no better options u should help but if you get hurt or worse then you would be also hurting your friends.

    • @Orion_TheyThem
      @Orion_TheyThem Год назад +5

      I made a comment addressing it. But basically TL;DR Japan (along with China and Korea) have very misogynistic social structures. And women/girls have to follow very strict gender and social norms. So what Haruhi did was seen as dangerous and she made everyone worry. Which, is just so fvcked up that everyone in this episode shamed and guilted her for stepping in when no one else was there. This episode is my least favourite and makes my blood boil a bit. Still love this anime and it's a comfort series of mine. But yeah.

    • @luellavanallen9481
      @luellavanallen9481 Год назад +10

      to me at least it makes sense. The thing is, besides physical capabilities, if those boys had discovered when trying to ruff her up that she was a girl the situation could have gotten a lot worse. Like how Kyouya demonstrated. The twins also mention that she could have also easily called for them to help instead of chargining in alone. As much as it sucks, Haruhi being a woman, there is more she has to consider to keep herself safe. Like how often woman know to park their cars where there are lights and cameras or carrying pepper spray, things men don't normally think about. Well neither does Haruhi, and she is also unwilling to ask for help. Haruhi acts like gender and sex do not matter, and while it shouldn't, that won't stop her from being a target just because she is a woman.

    • @Angelicwings1
      @Angelicwings1 Год назад +3

      @@Orion_TheyThemthat wasn’t what it was about! It was the fact that she put herself in a situation where the creep guys potentially could have treated her like a girl and hurt her along with the others. What was she gonna be able to do without any way of fighting like karate or something?

    • @JungcockSevenDaysAWeek
      @JungcockSevenDaysAWeek 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@Orion_TheyThem Some parts may have come off as misogynistic, but their points weren’t wrong either. In fact, everyone’s views were valid in this episode. Because at the end of the day, she is weaker than the rest, and because of that, it put her at a disadvantage. What she did was brave but stupid. That’s literally like running into a fight where someone is held at gunpoint, and you yourself have no weapons to protect you. You see how stupid that sounds because not only are you putting yourself in danger, but also the person whom you’re trying to ‘save’. And that’s basically what she did; she put everyone in danger by trying to fight off two guys with no combat experience. Literally getting thrown off a cliff, now imagine if the guys didn’t come. Not only would she have drowned and possibly died, but she could have put those girls in even more danger than they already were by angering them. Or they could have possibly even found out she was a girl herself and taken advantage of her as well. That’s their point! There is nothing wrong with wanting to help, but as long as it’s done smartly and isn’t out of your league, which in this case, Haruhi was.

  • @Orion_TheyThem
    @Orion_TheyThem Год назад +36

    7:55 unfortunately Japan is (still) pretty misogynistic for social standards. Although they're more liberal than China or Korea on some things they still have pretty rigid gender norms and stereotypes. And of course Tamaki was "concerned" for her well-being. Albeit a bit too concerned and overbearing. But because he's a guy and older than her, social custom dictates she listen to and respect him. This, as you may guess, can lead to a lot of power imbalance in toxic relationships and such. But yeah. That's what it boils down to.

    • @GrayeGoose
      @GrayeGoose Год назад +6

      Yup! That's kind of how I read it, too. Plus, this show also came out almost twenty years ago in 2006. That's the same year the "Me too" movement began, and a lot has changed around the world since then.

    • @Orion_TheyThem
      @Orion_TheyThem Год назад +8

      @@GrayeGoose yeah. It's really sad. Everyone in the anime, kpop, kdrama, etc community idolize TF out of all 3 countries. But there's still a lot of stuff wrong with their social structures. They're all also still very racist countries and are HORRIBLE to POC. And misogyny runs RAMPANT. not mention LGBTQIA people. Which, like I said above....Japan is better than the other 2 with LGBTQIA stuff but they still have more to do to be more welcoming.
      This is still one of my favourite animes though. But the episode has always been my least favourite. Still some good moments but overall just not.....great.

    • @Angelicwings1
      @Angelicwings1 Год назад

      That’s not the main point.

    • @GrayeGoose
      @GrayeGoose Год назад +2

      Agreed, there are still a lot of other issues, and I hope our world can move forward across the globe. We should be supporting each other, not tearing people down who are different. We're all human. Embrace the love! LOL!
      And yeah, this is probably my least fav episode, too.@@Orion_TheyThem

    • @amalkacioui2262
      @amalkacioui2262 Год назад +2

      Sorry but if you know you don't stand a chance and you could get Hurt it's wrong to try and help by yourself

  • @CatsRul85
    @CatsRul85 7 месяцев назад +14

    fun fact in the manga the beach/house actually belongs to a different character not Kyoya

  • @v.v365
    @v.v365 15 дней назад +1

    This episode really solidified my idea of Haruhi being asexual & nonbinary

  • @zizhenzhu
    @zizhenzhu Год назад +1

    I love your reaction and thank you for react to this anime i feel so nostalgia

  • @miriamvlachoulis6875
    @miriamvlachoulis6875 Год назад +11

    'Takami'
    Please keep pronouncing it this way

  • @yyoveltube
    @yyoveltube 25 дней назад

    9:15 you agree???