A Quick Look At Linux Mint 22 "Wilma"
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Today, I'm taking a look at the recently released Linux Mint 22 "Wilma". Mint comes in three desktop editions: Cinnamon, Xfce and MATE. I'm going to be checking out the Cinnamon edition in a virtual machine.
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Mint is, basically just a good solid install of Debian.
LMDE 6 especially. Installing updates from bookworm-backports gives you the latest kernel and LibreOffice too.
No Ubuntu because it's Ubuntu based. LMDE is the Debian based.
I love Mint but Debian is also cool on its own
Just install Debian please
@@edbeckerich3737 Mint better
Satisfyingly boring release.
Thanks for the video .. I have Mint on one of my computers and thinking more and more serious of using it on all my computers. I am not a Linux guru so Mint works for me, especially with the latest added features
Most of the crashes and bugs that you run into are VM issues... You wouldn't have these problems installed on bare metal.
I run Mint(Ubuntu) using VM and it seems a bit heavier, but it runs fine.
Now I don't have activate the sound anymore in removable devices.
Apart from the unverified flatpak ridiculousness (I mean, come the f on), I think this is another solid release of Linux Mint. I just hope they don't spread themselves too thin with maintaining all of these Mozilla packages, GTK 3 forks, and Cinnamon, especially given the ongoing Wayland transition!
Hey DT, could you make a video taking a look at hyprland? It's working pretty well these days even on nvidia.
When my universal package manager is ready enough, which I'm daily driving, you will be able to easily enable snaps on linux mint, with a few commands. IF you desire, like I had to. I already can do this with the version I'm daily driving. I haven't worked out disabling them though yet. That's a bit tricker.
There are a couple of new things. You can customize the right click menu, which sounds convenient. Software manager is way faster than before. They made themselves a new account login for various services, google, ms etc which are available even for MATE and xfce. I think the mint team is doing a solid job.
First thing I wanna mention is how clear your narration is. You have treble turned up which makes things a LOT easier for us with tone deftness to understand (because we lose the highs). One thing I hate though is that 19x7 screen! Mine are two 5x4's set side by side that take up exactly 30" of width on my desk. Try THAT with yours! AND you can still purchase 5x4's. Yeah they may be a bit pricey but well worth the extra cost! One thing I liked atta 1.x was kde's spectacle. but it no longer works on 22. so I uninstalled it after the upgrade and installed shutter as its replacement. Yeah shutter works but its just not as elegant as what spectacle was. Nemo is my default file manager but I use List view not icon view like you're using. I also have two panes permanently displayed because that way its easy to move or copy stuff from one pane to another. If you're messing with anything under / though then you gotta become GOD to do anything in there. I strongly recommend that novices stay the hell away from playing GOD anywhere inside /!
BUT... Does a fresh install like you did auto display the boot menu? If no then you gotta take some extra steps such as changing the TIMEOUT inside grub from 0 to say 10. Now in order to do that you DO need to become GOD for just ONE edit on THIS file: /etc/default/grub. now how in the hell do you do that? Well the easiest way is to launch a text editor and by default I believe one is installed... I think. so launch a terminal and enter THIS command:
sudo xed %U. That will launch the editor in GOD mode. now you can click file/open/other locations/computer/etc/default/grub and set GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 and save the change. Now close out the editor and run this command:
update-grub. Now close out the terminal and the next boot will show the boot menu (for 10 seconds). To stop the boot hit the up/down arrows so you can read it at leisure. By default the top selection is always booted by default.
Hmnn.. now do you see WHY newbies are hesitant regarding linux? Because its just about impossible to change ANYTHING from the defaults without using the terminal! I use it constantly BUT I've been running linux since ubuntu release 4.04. You know a lotta vendors write bash scripts that need to be run to install their stuff, you know? so how are you gonna launch bash without the CLI? I also write backup scripts which makes my backups target ONLY the data that I need to have backed up.. here's a perfect example... I have a zillion notes under Gnotes. And I want those things backed because one thing I have in there is my PW file! with THOUSANDS of PW's built up over the years. I do NOT use browser PW files but I DO have THOUSANDS of bookmarks and I need those backed as well. How are you gonna do that without a script? Fortunately Windows users migrating to linux don't care about backing anything... but savvy users do care.
I've given up distro hopping, I just install Linux Mint, liq. kernel, and extra ppa for mesa and graphics drivers and I'm set to game.
I highly recommend Linux Mint to any new user of Linux coming from Windows. It was perfect for those of us coming from Windows 7 because... other than the Wallpaper... it was pretty much identical to Windows 7. It still is in a way but I still recommend it to people even if they're coming from Windows 10 or 11. It may look like a step backwards but it's still really easy to use.
Put Linux Mint 22 Wilma onto a 2013 Dell Inspiron 15R (5537) with i5-4200U (1.6 Ghz), 500tb 2.5-in. hdd, and only 6gb of ddr3 1600 this week. It runs like a champ 👍 Updated firmware, too. Was total trash but now a fun play thing for family.
I don't understand why Cinnamon theming has only rounded upper corners?? It is just not aesthetic.
I always fix that by installing Arc theme, which has no rounded corners. I hate rounded corners.
square corners are just dated, round corners and more white space is what normies want
why is the start menu squared but windows rounded, so wrong - embarrassing lack of consistency
such a hard UI fail
I have a question. Does Mint support a indexbased desktop search in the new version? It is about the only reason for me to not use it.
I just hope that Mint 22 FIXES my audio issue where I have no sound coming out of the front panel, and only the back panel if I boot Mint with the headphone jack already plugged in. On Windows 10 I had zero issues with sound in either the front or back panel.
Oh, and it would be nice to be able to run Waylan out of the box. It crashed on my Mint machine.
Linux Mint is a solid distro and just gets out of the way. It "just works."
Linux Mint was the first version of Linux I tried and I encountered quite a few bugs including the one that caused my screen to seemingly randomly go black. I checked the screensaver settings and the drivers and searched online and couldn't find anything so I was like fork this lol
I might try it again but I've found Fedora to be more what I was hoping Mint would be in terms of out of the box stability
Good presentation DT
I started off with 21.1 last year. Shortly there after, I had a chance to go to 21.2, so I did. That went well. About the time 22 was released, I went ahead and moved to 21.3, as that was required to update to 22. So, I am now at 22. A few little things needed to be tweaked to keep my happy. Nothing is really new to me with the update. The stuff I have been using, still works fine. The one big plus was my built in audio on my Beelink Ser5 works now. I have since noticed that when I play .WAV files in VLC, and pause, back up, restart, it seems to disconnect and connect to the sound driver. That results in some dropouts in audio. Just have to change how I use VLC.
@14:51 - Ah! You're using apt without a stable CLI Interface! You can use dpkg-query --list instead .. but when I tried it just now, it gave me a different result. Hmmm. I still use apt-get and apt-cache when I can, but I don't normally list out all my packages.
New Mint looks awesome
Did you install your virtual mashine with the tweeks mentioned in the release notes of the mint blog? Maybe that is the cause of your problems.
Interesting note, When I installed this yesterday on my drum room PC, and it asked me if I wanted to use pipewire or pulseaudio. I've been having issues with pipewire and my mixer so I used pulseaudio. So, you can choose which one you want during the installation.
Please look at VanillaOS too
I second that. Although I've already tried it, I'm interested in DT's opinion of Vanilla OS. In fact, Linux Mint is so predictable at this point, IMO Vanilla OS would have been a more interesting review to begin with.
@@UltraZelda64 Most of DT's opinions are very biassed hot takes that I find most folk just simply don't agree with, but that's why I watch him lmao
I'm on Mint 21 for 2 years w/ 2 displays on Ryzen 5 + gtx1650 and never once had any crashes like seen here. Presentation is positive but wound-up looking like a slap in the face for a hard working Mint team. Why not just resolve and redo?🤨 Was this another cog in the wheel of some daily content mill?🤔
I upgraded to Mint 22 and had plenty of issues so I went back to 21.3. It's not very polished yet.
@@AM-tu1rc Good to know, maybe folks should wait?
@@AM-tu1rc Ever tried to skip the middle man Ubuntu and go with Debian based Mint?
Any ideas why there is no Mint GNOME edition? TIA
This one produced by "Zeuss" right?
Looking forward to the album this will be featured on.
If they don't like snaps, why don't they quit Ubuntu based and only do Debian based?🤔
Ubuntu, contrary to popular belief is much more than just a 1:1 clone of Debian, even before snaps. Most applications are designed with Ubuntu dependencies in mind, Debian is great but it is not the Standard for home desktop Linux users.
installed mint and noticed that my display was stuck to 1080 with no option to change, tried some forums of people with the same issue but couldn't solve it ! Deleted to partition and returned back to windows :) Don't hate me I'm just a noob !
Linux-Mint with the Cinnamon desktop has been my go to replacement for many older laptops and PC's that really don't have the resources to run Win 10 or 11. It's fast, and not resource intensive, and just an overall solid distro that 'just works'!😉👍👍
Really bro? Can u help me like :-
I installed Linux mint Cinnamon on my laptop but it has few issues like can't woke from suspend, battery drainage to zero only when the lid is closed and slow startup idk why ...plz guide
My laptop specs :-
Lenovo e540
Core i7 4th gen
4gb ram
256 SSD
Integrated GPU
@@diego88920 What year and model laptop are you working with Diego? CPU? RAM size? If it has an Intel chipset made before 2014 or so, there is a known issue with the ACPI bios that causes problems with sleep and suspend. I know this because I have an old HP Pavilion with the exact same problem. There's no more BIOS updates for it, so I just shut it off completely when not using it, and set it to not got to sleep or hibernate.
@@diego88920 Just saw this second post.. once again, pretty much any Intel-based chipset made before 2014 or so has inherent issues with the ACPI not being supported. I looked up your Lenovo, and it's pretty much the same deal. I think any version of Linux-Mint (and other distros) require something that older bios and chipset versions don't support (at least in the Intel family). Older AMD stuff doesn't seem to be affected for the most part.
@@danw1955 This is the only problem I am facing so if I don't suspend and ignore slow startup . will it work fine ,like it doesn't harm my laptop?
Genuinely surprised as to your confusion on the hate for snaps.
I did try the Linux Mint Cinnamon the problem is the BlueTooth is not working well. Linux Mint Xfce is display super small.
I support Mint's anti snap stance given how Canonical has been absurdly pushy with snaps. If they had both snaps and deb packages and they kept the 2 clearly separated then fine, I wouldn't have any issues with snaps whatsoever. I am all in favor of having competition in the markets. It's when they started making deb packages that install snap versions of apps that I draw the line.
Either keep the 2 separated and have both, or get rid of debs and do snaps for everything. If I am installing the deb for a package I want it to be the freaking deb. If they are gonna pull this garbage then no, blocking snaps by default is entirely fair game.
Are you aware that you can pretty easy purge snap from Ubuntu with their snap store, replace it with the default gnome software store and lower priority of snap so it would never get installed again under literally 3 minutes? Canonical never restricts you, you can absolutely change whatever you want
I wish Linux Mint was stable ON MY COMPUTER.
zorin is better anyway
DT are u gonna check out the pop_os cosmic? im so excited its looking pretty decent for an alpha some of the stuff they added is good tiling features. maybe since your a pro tiler u could throw in some suggestions lol.
Linux Mint, my simple data recovery distro for when my Windows gaming machines shit their own prolapsed asshole out
Kek
Can this thing disable update notifications ? Literally that's the only reason I prefer Debian over mint for virtual machines (xfce version) with private data.
Package updates? I do that by removing mintupdate from the startup app list, with the gui. Type "mintupdate" on the search bar from the start menu. You still can launch it manually and stop it later by right click from the panel and "quit".
couple things. the long time it took for librewriter to launch, probably just a first launch thing right doing stuff in the background? and for the htop seemingly high cpu usage, again the OS may be doing stuff in the background so close to a fresh install, but it's probably because you only allotted a portion of your CPU to the VM right?
writer takes a long time to launch. I happen not to care though. lotta stuff takes time to launch. For example Google Earth. I use that thing every day but sometimes just leave it up on my 2nd monitor (which looks much better on my 5x4 than it does on 16x9). 5x4 also take up a LOT less desktop space and especially when you have 2 of them.
@@leecowell8165 i cant recall which one but i remember either snaps or flatpacks tend to take a long time to load. maybe libreoffice on wilma is one of those package versions?
I don't like the Wilma version of Linux Mint. I have to download the old software that were decommissioned, that's why I'm sticking to Virginia and once the LTS has expired for Virginia, I'll be switching to Arch Linux Cinnamon.
why not checking out Cosmic Desktop alpha release?
These type of videos are almost always a skip for me unfortunately. I haven't watch the video and I already know what's in it because it's always the same format. (VM with 2 core, install, default partitioning ext4, strong & complicated password, took around 5 min minute on my machine to install, Ram Usage, list number of apps installed, take a quick tour of the launcher menu, file manager, look at wallpapers ...)
I don't mind the fact that someone shows a fresh release of a distro, but there's nothing different in the way it is shown. It's a new release, so what's new in it compare to the previous one ? What this distro does differently then others ? ... Things like that seems more important than knowing what has already been said in all other Debian/Arch/REL based distros "quick look videos". Cause the way it's done at the moment, you could change the title to: A Quick Look at "insert Debian Based Distro Name"' - and everything would stay the same apart from the chosen DE.
DT has the knowledge to go deeper in a overview & can explain very well things that might seems complicated to many. I just know he can do better than staying on the surface.
Hoping this is not received as a negative comment but more has constructive one to push the content further.
Unfortunately, that's how most Linux RUclips channels take a look at any new release of a Linux distro. And it's sad and boring.
@@SifatUllah-12 yeah right.
I've only been on Linux for 2 years and I could make a video like this if I wanted too (and had all the skills required of course lol). It's just a too simple content format.
Brodie is too advance/technical for me sometimes, but when he shows something, he'll get into the nitty-gritty, make suggestions, explain things & each time it will be different because of all that. (he doesn't really make quick look video like DT but if he looks at a DE, you'll learn something along the way for sure & from the perspective of an advanced user)
While I do agree with you for the most part, it does save me the time of installing these distros when I can watch dt. I would like to see more comparisons though like what feature or benefit distro x has over distro y.
what's wilma?
i don't have the heart to tell you...
WIIIIIILMAAAA!! Wilma Flintstone ?
WILMA NUTS FIT IN YOUR MOUTH SON-
Man's took one for the team, respect
God, those 2000+ kids don't know anything!
Zoomer
nice vid, thx
disappointing video. you go through the standard walk through. why not show how to partition the HDD for the install, what space is needed for different partitions, etc. mint uses flatpak so the home drive can be bigger. you know? show the places where the install gets a little technical. snaps suck, slow loading. nemo is good but you dont really give a full rundown of why nemo is great - right click open in terminal, open as root, double pane view. it was good you pointed out that firefox and thunderbird are system packages and not flatpak. no explanation or applets, desklets, and other add ons. all and all waste of time skipping thru this
a boring distro with a boring DE
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but both are boring in a good way - everything set to work, nothing breaks - just what you'd expect from Mint
ive already noticed this in your last mint video, that you changed the accent color to all green. this makes the distro kinda look like shit, lol. since a few versions, they are going with the blue/sand version to make the folder icons look nice and sandish, and make the rest of the accents more modern with a blue colour, trying to move mint away from the all green theming, as it looks outdated, yet in a presentation of the distro you "revert" this design decision from mint, by using the old theming choices they made, taking one of the "updates" away from it.
i know that you are trying to showcase the ease of use in the theming menu, but i feel like it makes cinnamon look worse in the rest of the video, potentially making newbies feel like cinnamon isnt their cup
nontheless, i love the videos! especially the mint ones. otherwise i wouldnt have bothered to write a comment
keep em coming:)
I was having sound issue so i tried pulseaudio but it didn't helped, so i came back to ubuntu
Same dated design from 2005. Icons are made by a 5 year old?
lol
Yes, and he's doing his best!
I use arch btw
good for you
That explains all of the balloons I saw in the sky today. Yeah!!!!
@@CTSFanSam what?
Man Cinnamon desktop looks VERY old, they really need an overhaul
It is just the default look, but you can make it modern in a few steps
@@fedordostoievski6751 I know its customizable but it will still have elements thar look like windows 98
@@ramyextraSome people like that, for example it’s classical not anything like modern minimalist bs, it’s actually functional for example start menu has 0 animation, unlike windows which wastes time.
@@ramyextra that's the beauty of linux, cinnamon only exists cause of gnome making 3.0
I use the desktop to launch the Apps I am going to use for the rest of the day. Is the desktop some kind of video game?
What a memeable name
they should have baked in snap, flatpak, app image launcher, bottles and distrobox too. BTW POP OS cosmic desktop is released yesterday.
Snap???
Alpha*
raahh
Not a Flintstones joke… yet 😂
Hey DT, can you help me install Nvidia drivers on Fedora 40 KDE Wayland
Linux Mint 22 has a bunch of issues, I switched back to 21.3
examples?
Not a single issue mentioned...
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Wilma just sounds too close to "Alma" for me to trust it LOL
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Stable distros they said. try linux mint they said. it isn't buggy as much as windows they said.
(They lied 😞)
There is Mint on Ubuntu, like this one, and there is LMDE. I haven't had an issue yet with LMDE. Just don't do stupid things with it. Make sure you know what you are going to do.
Pretty much everything you hear on the Internet is a lie, don't listen to them.
All Linux distros are buggy depending on your hardware.
Because all distros have the same Linux kernel, which can be buggy.
why make videos if you don't want to waste time in vm 🥴
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yay!!!
"nemo is one of the better filemanagers on linux" ouch that's sad. I run directory opus on windows and if that's what you guys have on linux I don't think I can switch.
Same, it's kind of shocking to see what linux users use for file managers. I use Total Commander on Windows (and used dir opus all the way back in the Amiga days). I was hoping there's something similar on linux. Maybe you're just supposed to use the cli for everything. It's not enough to keep me on Windows though, I've finally had enough of MS's spyware they call an OS.
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Linux.... lol
LOL!!! LMAO EVEN!!! DID I MENTION ROFL!?!? ROFLMAO!!!
don't be a snooty unix user
the less people that use windows and mac os the better