How to learn the IPA (part 1): accelerate your language learning

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  • You asked where to learn the International Phonetic Alphabet, I listened. This week, we start with consonants.
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  • @obvv7714
    @obvv7714 Год назад +237

    Ok I’ll bite the bullet and finally learn IPA instead of always saying I will.

    • @morebaileyskim
      @morebaileyskim Год назад +8

      😂😂😂

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад +33

      YES!!!

    • @ajrollo1437
      @ajrollo1437 8 месяцев назад

      It's been four months. Read this:
      “Ɪn ðæt dɪˈrekʃən,” ðə Kæt sed, ˈweɪvɪŋ ɪts raɪt pɔː raʊnd, “lɪvz ə ˈHætə: ənd ɪn ðæt dɪrekʃən,” ˈweɪvɪŋ ðiː ˈʌðə pɔː, “lɪvz ə Mɑːtʃ Heə. ˈVɪzɪt ˈaɪðə jʊ laɪk: ðeə bəʊθ mæd.”
      “Bʌt Aɪ dəʊnt wɒnt tə ɡəʊ əˈmʌŋ mæd ˈpiːpl,” ˈÆlɪs rɪˈmɑːkt.
      “Əʊ, jʊ kɑːnt help ðæt,” sed ðə Kæt: “wɪər ɔːl mæd hɪə. Aim mæd. Jɔː mæd.”
      “Haʊ duː jʊ nəʊ Aim mæd?” sed ˈÆlɪs.
      “Jʊ mʌst biː,” sed ðə Kæt, “ɔː jʊ ˈwʊdnt hæv kʌm hɪə.”

    • @SesshyLover777
      @SesshyLover777 6 месяцев назад +2

      Me right now 😩

    • @nwandydoris1758
      @nwandydoris1758 4 месяца назад

      Me right now

  • @lucifermorningstar1902
    @lucifermorningstar1902 Год назад +139

    Polyglot and professional vocalist here, learning the IPA was obviously beneficial to my language learning, but fewer people know that it is also instrumental to singing too. When you think about it though, it is very intuitive, as singing demands you make a variety of often challenging sounds, and moreover sustaining them (as opposed to in speech, where you don't usually hold a sound for a long time). It was super helpful for me to learn about the position of my throat and tongue to optimize my sound and projection for different vowels, and better articulation for consents, especially those not in the languages I'm fluent in.

    • @Danielle-zq7kb
      @Danielle-zq7kb Год назад +8

      Playing the flute has helped me with some foreign language sounds because it relies on several odd mouth movements too.

    • @RobespierreThePoof
      @RobespierreThePoof 7 месяцев назад +1

      I find that playing the skin flute professionally has improved my glottal stops and rhotics quite a bit.

  • @carbon6274
    @carbon6274 6 месяцев назад +46

    Where is part 2, 3 and 4

  • @supaspydamn
    @supaspydamn Год назад +52

    I can attest to this advice. One semester I took a speaking class for communications credit and we learned IPA. I learned how to make every sound the human mouth is capable of producing. The next semester I took Arabic, Chinese, and Korean... all A's!

    • @faerie_cakes
      @faerie_cakes Год назад +2

      did you experience any trouble learning chinese and korean together? you know, because they're so similar. i am interested in picking them up both at once, but i am scared of confusing them.

    • @bigfat4172
      @bigfat4172 11 месяцев назад +7

      ​@maryyammar they are not that similar. Different grammar structures, different vocabulary, different writing system, chinese is tonal and korean is not. Both are pretty difficult though.

    • @Englishcomprendsive_input
      @Englishcomprendsive_input 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@bigfat4172 They have many cognates, also shared in Japanese.

    • @andrew_owens7680
      @andrew_owens7680 2 месяца назад +1

      @@faerie_cakes I'm studying Dutch and German and have studied Italian and Spanish. Pronunciation is the key. If you have very accurate pronunciation, you won't find nearly the number of common words, because you can sort them by sound. Also, although you could use your knowledge of another language during speaking to make yourself understood (and it is super helpful in reading), try to really fill in your vocabulary knowledge first so that you are certain. I have attempted Arabic and try to think of each dialect as a separate language.

    • @andrewtheworldcitizen
      @andrewtheworldcitizen 2 месяца назад

      ​@faerie_cakes
      Mandarin Chinese, as well as the other Sinitic languages, and Korean are not related to each other at all....
      they sound extremely different from each other......
      they don't sound anything like each other, and they are not related to each other...
      Learning Chinese and Korean at the same time would perhaps be like learning English and Arabic at the same time....
      Although Korean and Japanese are also not related to each other,
      I think for someone who has never studied Korean or Japanese, and has never been around many Korean or Japanese speakers, the two languages can sound somewhat similar.....

  • @ginabee1212
    @ginabee1212 Год назад +85

    As a speech language pathologist, I had to take phonetics in college. It has helped me so much with learning how to pronounce different languages and accents. Even if I don't know the perfect symbol to represent a given phoneme (sound), it's usually enough to help me remember how to pronounce the word.

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад +27

      Isn’t it great? And there’s also pronouncing people’s names

    • @ginabee1212
      @ginabee1212 Год назад

      @@languagejones6784 Yes, for sure!

    • @wagnerjunior6524
      @wagnerjunior6524 Год назад +3

      I've got a question: if our vocal folds do not vibrate when we whisper, then how was it possible that I can still hear and feel the difference between voiced and voiceless sounds when I whisper them????
      I mean, of the only difference between voiced sounds and their voiceless counterparts is the vibration in our vocal folds then they should all sound the same when we whisper, yet they feel and sound different, why is it? Is there anything I'm missing here maybe???

    • @ginabee1212
      @ginabee1212 Год назад +3

      @wagnerjunior6524 My first thought is context. You understand all or most of the whispered message, so your brain is able to fill in the missing pieces when part of the message is NOT clear.
      Also, if you can still feel the vibration of your voice, maybe you are speaking a little bit louder than a whisper.

    • @mattreichmann8118
      @mattreichmann8118 3 месяца назад +2

      @@wagnerjunior6524 I may be a LITTLE late to the party here, but there's also the 'level of explosiveness' for example, or how 'extreme' your fricative is.
      When whispering, you can make subtle changes between how intense certain letters are. For instance, you can make your 'b' quite soft in terms of how much air you let out in one go, compared to a 'p', where you'd typically use more for clarity.
      Same goes for 's' and 'z' (although less distinguishably so) or 'd' and 't'.
      People tend to say d's and z's more gently, and that's why we can often manage to differentiate them, even without context per se.

  • @aze4308
    @aze4308 3 месяца назад +29

    can’t wait for the second part

    • @th1rtyf0ur
      @th1rtyf0ur Месяц назад +2

      ikr? This video is 10 months old now- where is part 2? Or are we expected to watch his hour-long livestream to get the vowels? XD

  • @kfitch42
    @kfitch42 Год назад +90

    You could argue that the Korean writing system (hangul / 한글) was a similar (yet less universal) earlier attempt at one-symbol one-mouth-shape. This system was developed in the mid fourteen hundreds by King Sejong the Great (세종대왕). In fact the shapes of the "letters" are intended to demonstrate the proper mouth-shape. For example the "ㅁ" is pronounced like an "m", and is supposed to show the shape of the lips pressed together. Of course once you get beyond the beginner level you find there are sooooo many "sound change rules" that the simple 1:1 mapping of symbol to mouth-shape only holds like 75% of the time. That being said, it is still leaps and bounds easier than English.

    • @Karamazov9
      @Karamazov9 Год назад +13

      It’s weird how people esp white people talk about Hangul like it’s some sort of revelation

    • @Wolfeur
      @Wolfeur Год назад +17

      Hangul is somewhat featural, but it's not like its purpose was to give a universal system. It's completely bound to Korean phonology and phonotactics

    • @satanissima
      @satanissima Год назад +25

      ​@@Karamazov9because it is a sort of revelation for those unfamiliar with it.

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier Год назад +16

      ​​@@Karamazov9Hangul is intentionally designed to be easy to learn. It is quite unusual for such a writing system to actually become common.
      There's also just a really satisfying "click" when a native English speaker learns the rules of Hangul... it looks complicated at first, but is so simple compared with the mess which is English spelling.
      FWIW: I suck at languages.

    • @jenm1
      @jenm1 Год назад

      @@satanissima white people sometimes have main character syndrome.
      I think in the broader sense it still speaks to how white people see non whites, like they're a backdrop for us to explore. If it were just a personal revelation to finally understand something, that doesn't have the same racist connotations as like wow nonwhites did something impressive! or as if the white person has made some discovery.

  • @jmi967
    @jmi967 Год назад +11

    If I remember correctly, the greyed ones are the ones that were deemed physically impossible and the missing ones are ones just not used in any known dialect.
    As for a bilabial flap, I would think it would be an unaspirated pop, like when you put your finger in your mouth and pop it out.

    • @revangerang
      @revangerang 14 дней назад

      That's what I was thinking!

  • @auntiechris
    @auntiechris Год назад +4

    "Where/how/vibe check" is a perfect recall device. Brilliant.
    AND
    Yes, please re minced oaths!

  • @falkmihi
    @falkmihi 2 месяца назад +4

    Where the ipa is part2?

  • @rykerwebb9379
    @rykerwebb9379 11 месяцев назад +5

    2 things
    1. I would love to see you try to pronounce an alveolar fricative trill also known as Ř in the Czech language.
    2. When are parts 2-4 coming out?👀

  • @scheddoc
    @scheddoc 11 месяцев назад +5

    This just occurred to me: I wonder what’s the fewest number of languages you’d need to learn in order to use the entire IPA thru those languages

  • @erldagerl9826
    @erldagerl9826 11 месяцев назад +2

    IPA is my love language. I love the precision with which it describes and denotes sounds. So much better than “a distorted r sound,” which is narshkeit.

  • @DynamicFortitude
    @DynamicFortitude Год назад +8

    Note in some languages combinations of two IPA characters are needed. For example Polish t͡ʂ (affricate) is different than just tʂ said one after another.
    There are also combinations of places of articulation like alveolo-palatal ɕ. You can have double trouble: t͡ɕ (alveolo-palatal affricate).
    Sounds t͡ɕ d͡ʑ t͡ʂ d͡ʐ are a 100% indication someone is a native Polish speaker.

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад +7

      I was trying to save all the diacritics for the third video, to keep it as simple as possible at the start. I’m definitely excited about getting to those, and same for the vowels (Australian “no” will be involved)

    • @Tim_Sviridov
      @Tim_Sviridov Год назад +1

      @@languagejones6784, yeah, nah, really, mate?

    • @notwithouttext
      @notwithouttext Год назад

      @@Tim_Sviridov i think "australian no" probably refers to how some australians say "no" that sounds to some people as "naur"

    • @Tim_Sviridov
      @Tim_Sviridov Год назад

      @@notwithouttext quoi? Nah, mate. Nobody here says it with an r at the end. Or for that matter, the "нау" part.
      (And yes, I get that that you were trying to write "nah". I am making fun of English's inability to spell.)

    • @notwithouttext
      @notwithouttext Год назад +1

      @@Tim_Sviridov no, i DO mean naur, with a distinct r-sounding approximant at the end. only a few young australians say it, though, and only in some regions. so maybe nobody THERE but there are some. geoff lindsey has a good video about why some australians say naur

  • @czyko
    @czyko Год назад +10

    Fantastic explanations here, very excited for the rest of this series.

  • @berniemacs
    @berniemacs 11 месяцев назад +1

    2minutes in and this is already absolutely masterful. Thank you Doctor Jones

  • @frannybellotti4790
    @frannybellotti4790 Месяц назад

    Thank you for this video! This is the best topic... I have been trying to memorize the IPA for years and each time I get a little more progress. Good luck to all others who are learning it. IPA is super useful.

  • @uchuuseijin
    @uchuuseijin Год назад +4

    I think the IPA can be very useful, but as an MA TESOL student I would like to point out that, at least in English, there are a lot of issues with the IPA transcriptions used in English dictionaries. American dictionaries used to plagiarize British dictionaries, so there are tons of instances where even now American words will be transcribed with phonemes that only exist in RP, (strut vowels in the place of schwas, for instance) as well as phonetic transcriptions based on outdated views of English phonology or as the product of one side of a phonological debate vs the other. IPA isn't uselss or bad to learn, but you also gotta keep your ears open to the sounds speakers are actually making!

    • @artugert
      @artugert 9 месяцев назад

      Sounds like you’ve been watching Geoff Lindsey’s videos. Or if you haven’t, you should, because that’s something he talks about a lot.

    • @uchuuseijin
      @uchuuseijin 9 месяцев назад

      @@artugert I have (that's why that's the example I used haha) but it's not the only example and the difference between what's in reference materials and what's in the actual language is a constant theme in my classes. Seems like Dr. Jones agrees, given one of his latest videos implores people to start listening to real stuff as fast as possible haha.
      I think analysis can be a useful supplement but the language is ultimately the language. I think the more you spend time in analysis mode using learner materials, the deeper you're putting yourself into a sort of platonic language cave.

    • @artugert
      @artugert 9 месяцев назад

      @@uchuuseijin Yeah, I think it depends on how you use the IPA. Since there are many accents and ways of pronouncing words, there are many possible transcriptions for any given word. I'm not sure, but I would guess some words could have dozens of possible (close) transcriptions. A person learning English as a second language will need to get a feel for all the various ways a word can be said, otherwise they will understand one accent but not all the others. Of course, for speaking, they will probably be learning one particular accent, such as General American, but even within GA, there are many nuanced differences in people's speech patterns. Eventually, they will have to develop their own preferences and their own voice. So, yeah, I agree. The IPA is a helpful tool for beginners in a language to understand what is actually going on when a particular sound is articulated, but it can't be relied upon for a perfectly accurate representation of speech. Eventually, you need to rely on your own ears and your own tongue, lots of practice and (at a more advanced level) perhaps a bit of intuition.

  • @quazillionaire
    @quazillionaire Месяц назад

    I recently used the IPA to figure out the distinction between similar fricative sounds in Polish. it really made it a lot easier to understand, without having to use vague terms like "hard", "soft", "harsh", etc.

  • @tvb2690
    @tvb2690 7 месяцев назад

    I was forced to learn the IPA aged 10, I hated it back then and appreciated when learning the additional 5.5 languages I speak today (decades later) and many additional ones I dipped my linguistic toe in. I highly recommend it. And your explanation is brilliant.

  • @jasenkaboskovic4609
    @jasenkaboskovic4609 10 месяцев назад +1

    I found that my mothertong helps a lot when pronouncing. It is serbian and when you use cirilic writing there are 30 letters and 30 sounds, completely phonetical. However there are words with differences in meaning if the vowel is long, short, or the accent is ascendent or descendent. 😊

  • @noelleggett5368
    @noelleggett5368 Год назад +37

    I teach the Irish language. I find the IPA indispensable for teaching the sounds of the language properly. The Gaelic languages are unusual in that one of the most characteristic features of the (three) Gaelic languages is that all consonants (except h) have distinct ‘slender’ (palatized) and ‘broad’ (velarized) qualities. Also, in Irish, for many various reasons, the first sound of a word often changes from plosive to fricative (lenition), or from unvoiced to voiced, or voiced to nasal (eclipsis). Sometimes, a voiced consonant in the middle of a verb is pronounced unvoiced (which indicates the future or conditional tense). Without a knowledge of basic phonetics (with the help of the IPA - or at least a consonant table indicating ‘where’ and ‘how’), teaching and learning these sound ‘mutations’ is laborious and makes little sense. With the IPA as a reference, it is easy.

    • @nicolao.dos.santos
      @nicolao.dos.santos Год назад +4

      I always wanted to learn Irish, I love the country, the culture, the music, and the people!

    • @noelleggett5368
      @noelleggett5368 11 месяцев назад

      @@nicolao.dos.santos And the language is amazing, too. (And in many ways, Irish is more closely related to Portuguese than English.)

    • @eugenetswong
      @eugenetswong 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@nicolao.dos.santosI haven't always, but I do want to learn Irish.
      I distinctly remember what a white guy said, probably a guy of Irish descent, and probably learning it for the 1st time: "This feels so natural.". I reflect on that often, and assume that languages are strongly influenced by our genetics which influence our comfort levels.

    • @angelareed225
      @angelareed225 9 месяцев назад +3

      I'm so thrilled with this comment section for the quality of conversations happening here! What a cool thing to share and a perfect use of IPA. I had no idea Gaelic consonants have this feature. I'm excited to go down a youtube rabbit hole listening for this now

    • @eugenetswong
      @eugenetswong 9 месяцев назад

      I agree about finding comment sections. 🙂@@angelareed225

  • @taycobayco
    @taycobayco Год назад

    I had to skip a linguistics class a couple weeks ago and this came out the same day. After watching it I was like two lectures ahead. Love your videos!

  • @slicksalmon6948
    @slicksalmon6948 3 месяца назад

    Thank you. I spent all day today watching Gabriel Wyner videos on the same topic, and I considered defenestrating myself. Apparently, I'm going to have to learn this. I see Part 2 on vowels appeared as a live stream.

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  3 месяца назад +1

      I will eventually make a shorter video on it, but the editing nearly killed me. And this is one topic I can't outsource editing on.

  • @handybanana2274
    @handybanana2274 Год назад +1

    I've made a big effort on this IPA alphabet thing this year. I haven't met linguistics students who are actually good with languages until very recently but this seems very useful, especially if you don't have the best ear like a musician but rather can drill movements like an athlete.
    ( The example pronunciations provided by linguistic students and conlangers on wiki and youtube seem very silly and not very useful though (it's something that's meant to be, as I understand it, descriptive of how natives speak in terms of place/s of articulation, not prescriptive. So I'm dabbling in all these languages just to build my IPA mental audio database esp for vowels and it's exhausting. )

  • @mossworksmedia
    @mossworksmedia 2 месяца назад

    using your videos to help with my german, japanese, and singing overall
    gonna have some fun results after a few months of study and practice

  • @alexisericson241
    @alexisericson241 Год назад +1

    IPA was life-changing for me. Glad more people are learning it!

  • @fernandoteitelbaum
    @fernandoteitelbaum Год назад +3

    Excellent video, as always! I've always thought the consonants on the IPA were rather transparent (you did a great job explaining it) BUT I never could understand the vowels... looking forward for the news one!

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад

      We’re gonna have so much fun with that! I LOVE the vowels. There are sounds in French that I had to learn by triangulation…literally getting height/backness/and rounding one at a time by using other vowels I know, and then dialing it in once I was in the neighborhood. I still have an accent but it’s a LOT better. Listen and repeat wasn’t gonna cut it

  • @viciousrodent
    @viciousrodent 2 месяца назад

    Learning IPA was basically just me sitting in front of a computer staring at a chart, clicking "play" on recordings of all the sounds, and making funny noises alone for a couple hours for a few days.
    It feels remarkably silly to actually sit down and try to do, but, it's absolutely the best thing I did for my abiity to learn and learn about languages.

    • @luisasr8068
      @luisasr8068 2 месяца назад

      And for example in english how do u learn and memorize the pronunciation of each diphthong, vowel, and consonant, for every word?

  • @TeaAndFloppyDisks
    @TeaAndFloppyDisks Год назад

    We learned some IPA in school to be able to read the English dictionary (English is a second language for us). It's been a very valuable tool for learning foreign languages, especially since a lot of good dictionaries also include the IPA transcription.
    Thank you for this series!

  • @tildessmoo
    @tildessmoo Год назад +1

    The one issue I have with using IPA for language learning is that a lot of resources copy the professional linguist's tendency to use the symbol /r/ to represent rhotics. Linguists do this in places where the exact pronunciation doesn't matter - for instance, when using IPA to represent a language the reader doesn't necessarily need to know while demonstrating a point about syntax - so it's fine for them, but the actual rhotic(s) in a given language can be a number of actual phones, like /ʁ/ in French or both /r/ and /ɾ/ in Spanish. (And then there's Arabic that uses /r/ as a rhotic but also has /ʁ/ as a separate consonant.)
    On the other hand, it's been a huge help in learning to pronounce sounds like /ʕ/ and /q/ in Arabic (though the phonotactics still screw me up in /ʕiraːq/) and Welsh ll /ɬ/ (yes, I can now impress my friends (and little else) by saying /ɬanvairpʊɬɡwɨŋɡɨɬɡɔɡɛrəχwərndrɔbʊɬɬantəsɪljɔɡɔɡɔɡoːχ/)

  • @gwendolynpitts5462
    @gwendolynpitts5462 Год назад

    This explains how my Italian relatives Di Maio had their name spelled Di Mayo, Di Majo, and Di Maio. Thanks for the lesson!

  • @NihonNiv
    @NihonNiv 2 месяца назад +1

    This is wonderful. I can't wait for part 2!

  • @aze4308
    @aze4308 3 месяца назад +3

    next video?

  • @KBD88888
    @KBD88888 8 месяцев назад +1

    I love this! Hope you will continue the series.

  • @justin.booth.
    @justin.booth. Год назад +2

    I've been waiting for a video like this for a while! Great job!

  • @randytriezenberg98
    @randytriezenberg98 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks! Very easy to understand. Did you do Part 2 (vowels)? I don’t see it in your channel.

  • @M.athematech
    @M.athematech Год назад +3

    Insert standard OCD complaint that standard Arabic ayn is most definitely not the voiced equivalent of Arabic Haa despite everyone saying it is. Typical Arabic pronuncition is not a voiced fricative but an approximant (with two types of approximants encountered, one described as "tight").

  • @faerie_cakes
    @faerie_cakes Год назад +1

    fantastic explanation. have been waiting for part 2 ever since this video came out!

  • @sherrijennings9309
    @sherrijennings9309 Месяц назад

    In our first year linguistics, our teacher told us that someone labelled the uvular as vulva. We were all panicking that it was ourselves until we got the tests back. FYI it wasn't me.

  • @AngloSaks666
    @AngloSaks666 8 месяцев назад

    I noticed a certain type of 'v' in Georgian yesterday (in the word 'ბავშვი', where it appears twice, making it sound more like 'baushwi' than 'bavshvi' to an English speaker, at least via the pronuncation of that person), and I guess I generally understood what was going on when I heard it pronounced, but you've clarified for me that it's 'approximant'.

  • @mjackstewart
    @mjackstewart Год назад +3

    I was really proud of myself when I figured out how to pronounce ق and ع

  • @reuuu8526
    @reuuu8526 Год назад

    ɡreat video i appreciate how they went from easy to more difficult (for english speakers)
    at 13:45 they say that bilabial tap / flap is impossible but im fairly sure it is its just not a part of any known language, that's why the box isn't shaded in.

  • @Quixote3
    @Quixote3 Год назад

    I’ve actually been thinking of this a lot recently. Until now most of my languages have been in characters or the romance languages, but Russian is in Cyrillic and it’s a new perspective for me.

  • @Giraffinator
    @Giraffinator Год назад +3

    Very handy for Japanese ん. Not just an "N" sound.

  • @joenotjim
    @joenotjim 4 месяца назад

    Duuuuuude, just came across this video and am devastated to find out it's 7 months old and there's no part 2!!?

  • @jkkl4590
    @jkkl4590 Год назад

    Wow, right on the spot. Ive started watching your series recently and seeing how much you are using it i started going trough Wikipedia page about IPA. Now there is brand new series covering it, right before I start a1 course on Spanish.

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад

      I realized at a certain point I can’t make the videos I want to in the future without it, andI shouldn’t just keep telling people to learn it on their own

  • @JohnSmith-ju1gi
    @JohnSmith-ju1gi 11 месяцев назад +1

    I met you in grand central in late 90s or early 2000s (you were heading to grad school in a month or two) and loved your view on language and ended up buying rosetta stone in Russian Spanish German and Chinese.
    I am so pleased you found such a great career.
    Never tried German and shelved Chinese but Russian and Spanish were helpful.
    Question: where can I travel to that speaks primarily russian so I can experience it in the real world. Also I have never been able to pronunce numerals like 20 30 even 5 properly and would like tips as Duolingo also agrees I cannot handle these sounds
    Thanks for being awesome.

  • @IanJones942
    @IanJones942 2 месяца назад

    Fricative ... wait, let me start again...
    Frickin' awesome!

  • @jack2453
    @jack2453 Год назад

    Can't wait for the vowels - I have never been able to figure out the IPA chart. I'm sure your excellent explanation will sort me out.

  • @jack2453
    @jack2453 Год назад

    I love your demonstration of the glottal in the word bottle. It sounds just like Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins.

  • @BlueSky-gu1vn
    @BlueSky-gu1vn Год назад

    Imagine having to memorize grammar and on top this complicated chart now. Language learning should be simpler. A lot of listening, reading, writing and finally speaking will do.

  • @mjackstewart
    @mjackstewart Год назад +6

    "Different 'mouth shapes' cause different 'mouth sounds' to come out of your ''mouth hole.'" --Dr. Taylor Jones
    But I tease the hot genius! 😅

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад +4

      A wise friend of mine always encourages me to use simpler words wherever possible - “If you can’t explain it without jargon, you don’t really understand it”

  • @danii_maciasr9866
    @danii_maciasr9866 Год назад

    Great video, upcoming ones will be really helpful as a linguistics student (Spanish philology). The video about those curse expressions you mentioned sounds like a great idea!

  • @claybrown6154
    @claybrown6154 6 месяцев назад

    The IPA is a fascinating subject/tool so thank you for introducing me to it. I would love to see a practical application such as "Irish accent" vs "Southern US accent" or a college friend meant to say, "Merci beaucoup" but said "merci beau cul." While I can hear the difference and can produce the sounds I am not sure how IPA shows them. (I have not watched past Part 1, please forgive me if these are addressed in later episodes.)

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl Год назад +1

    0:04 I'd be happy to be able to use IPA in my writings.
    e, ε, e:, ε:
    is so much more slick than explaining a Swedish pronunciation to the French by
    é, è, éé, ê
    however, I think the main users of my writings in French, when touching on language, are so much less likely to use IPA as well as French orthography, as they are to drink IPA along with blanc, rouge, rosé, cidre, Leffe ...

  • @ailblentyn
    @ailblentyn Год назад +3

    What is really useful for language learning is to understand a little bit of (articulatory) phonetics. What specifically depends on the language.

  • @MoniBahaa
    @MoniBahaa Месяц назад +2

    Part 2 coming anytime soon?🥹

  • @ajaxtaur
    @ajaxtaur Год назад +4

    This is invaluable for worldbuilding as well :)

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад +3

      There’s so much I wanted to discuss that I need this for first! Can’t get to historical change without distinctive features, can’t do distinctive features without IPA

  • @Benyoisme
    @Benyoisme 10 месяцев назад

    I’m just thinking there should be a comprehensive video about this. Some language conjugate base on the vowels and consonants. It’s absolutely important, if you don’t want to memorise every single words out there.

  • @shybard
    @shybard Год назад +3

    This is excellent. I can't make all of the sounds to my satisfaction, but I could get most of them pretty close. Probably look and sound like a maniac doing it, but that's fine.

    • @alexisericson241
      @alexisericson241 Год назад

      Sorry, I know you sound completely crazy. When I was learning the IPA, I used to walk home from work muttering the letters to myself. I remember learning ʁ and sounding like I was gargling. All the neighbours hated how their dogs started howling as I came by

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад +3

      You just reminded me: I once went to see Don Ringe, who teaches historical linguistics, in his office. When I got there, he was pacing back and forth reading some manner of incantation in Akkadian. I slowly backed away.

  • @Codsworthy1701
    @Codsworthy1701 6 месяцев назад

    When’s part 2 coming? I’m interested to learn the full IPA here and was hoping to use my lull in Japanese learning capacity to binge this series 😂

  • @DrustZapat
    @DrustZapat Год назад

    I'm taking phonology right now and this is so useful. Thanks!

  • @lifefindsaway7875
    @lifefindsaway7875 7 месяцев назад

    I’m finally getting around to watching this series.
    I thought the series was complete, but I can’t find the other videos on your channel. Did a RUclips update mess up your playlist settings? Have you not done your video on vowels yet?
    Thanks. I love your content

  • @Luvs2ReadFantasy
    @Luvs2ReadFantasy Год назад

    Thanks for the IPA review, it's been so long since my phonetics class in college!

  • @paull7968
    @paull7968 2 месяца назад

    This languagejones video was really informative. I had never heard of the IPA before. Is there a part 2? I haven't found it.

  • @jaymiller8222
    @jaymiller8222 11 месяцев назад

    The explanations of producing different sounds are great - very clear and straightforward. The spoken demonstrations become confusing, however, when examples of of voiced versus unvoiced items sound identical. Both seem highly voiced. What am I missing ?

  • @thomasrussell3911
    @thomasrussell3911 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Jones! Did you ever release the part 2 for this video?

  • @peterelios7568
    @peterelios7568 5 месяцев назад

    Outstanding video. You sir are a natural teacher. Subbed of course.

  • @JeffersonCasavant
    @JeffersonCasavant Год назад

    Definitely want a minced oaths video. I'm curious if there are more than we normally notice - is "oh well" minced "oh hell"?

  • @M.athematech
    @M.athematech Год назад

    The only Hebrew pronunciations that has quf as a uvular stop are from first language Arabic speaking areas that are simply pronouncing Hebrew as Arabic. Arabic qaaf as uvular plosive I would argue is something unique to prestige pronunciation of standard Arabic. The evidence points to early Hebrew quf being tenuis velar with lip rounding originally and possibly some other form of fronting in the classical period contrasting with kaf which originally was not lip rounded or fronted and probably aspirated in the classical period with fricative allophone having developed at some point. Both Hebrew quf and Arabic qaaf descend from what would have been a glottalized velar in proto-Semitic.

  • @sebastianromero9568
    @sebastianromero9568 5 месяцев назад +2

    Is there a part 2 to this?

  • @resourceress7
    @resourceress7 Год назад +1

    My understanding is that every IPA character has a name, or at least I have a book somewhere that explains each symbol and its name. (Not just its descriptive phrase for place and manner of articulation).
    Some symbols, like ash and esh, are commonly referred to by a name, so more people are likely to know those particular ones.

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад +2

      I now know what I must find! Not sure how this was never covered in my schooling

    • @resourceress7
      @resourceress7 Год назад

      @@languagejones6784 It wasn't in mine, either. And all the official sources I googled today (wanted to paste a resource for you) are sadly lacking in symbol names.
      I've had to drastically pare down my belongings for a series of cross-town and cross-country moves. I really wish I had made records of all the books I had to let go vs still have.
      I do have a basic packing inventory and I just found and checked 2 small boxes of books, but no luck so far.
      For now I just remember it's a purple paperback. I'll see what I can do.
      Must. Share. KNOWLEDGE!!!!
      ---
      EDIT: Found it! (online, but not my physical copy yet)
      Phonetic Symbol Guide
      by Geoffrey K. Pullum and William A. Ladusaw
      University of Chicago Press

    • @noelleggett5368
      @noelleggett5368 Год назад +1

      Wikipedia has a good article on the naming conventions of IPA letters. I’m afraid you might be disappointed by some (e.g. ‘turned y’ for the palatal lateral approximant, which I always thought of a ‘lambda’). But others can be pretty amusing. (Like the diacritical marks called a ‘seagull’)

  • @Viky.A.V.
    @Viky.A.V. Год назад

    The Welsh "l" is still a mystery to me, I gotta google it =)
    Thanks for the explanation! Now I at least got it how Chinese speak)

  • @joeyjojojunior1794
    @joeyjojojunior1794 3 месяца назад

    6:52 I will MAKE such a language! -Someone with more time and more ambition than I

  • @danielnikolov2860
    @danielnikolov2860 Год назад

    Also, Dr., I would like to suggest making this some kind of TsikTsok challenge where people film themselves trying all these mouth shapes 😂 i just caught myself and thought it would be a hilarious challenge and get you more well deserved exposure 💕

  • @cjpgconman
    @cjpgconman 8 месяцев назад

    This was fascinating, makes me curious to learn the IPA as I learn French. I'm sure you're busy, especially with the little one, but do you have a release schedule for the other videos? Are there any resources for how to use the IPA for your target language?

  • @ProfessorLion9576
    @ProfessorLion9576 Год назад +7

    IPA! Hooray!

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад +5

      I hope everyone is as excited for it as you are! I've gotten a lot of requests for it, but I've been afraid it would be too technical.🤞

    • @Somebodyherefornow
      @Somebodyherefornow Год назад

      @@languagejones6784IPA? too technical? prople need to read

  • @dakotadalton85
    @dakotadalton85 5 месяцев назад

    RUclips won't let me like the video, so I'm leaving a comment.

  • @dash-t5489
    @dash-t5489 8 месяцев назад +1

    Waiting for the part two

  • @urbanfrog8466
    @urbanfrog8466 Год назад

    Oooo... yes please! A video on minced, oaths, and taboos 😊

  • @M.athematech
    @M.athematech Год назад +1

    Your "gamma" pronunciation was actually a rhotic approximant, for the voiced counterpart of the "chi" just add voicing, it will sound like typical modern Greek fricative gamma. (In Arabic depending on regional accent the ghayn may be fricative or approximant or have both as allophones or even shift to uvular position which is what results in confusion over what the IPA gamma is meant to represent.)

  • @mickgorro
    @mickgorro Год назад +1

    AFAIK Xi in Mandarin is alveolo-palatal, not palatal.
    Gn and gl(i) in Italian are the palatal nasal and lateral approximant.

  • @aliroukissy6097
    @aliroukissy6097 8 месяцев назад

    Hi, I am from Morocco and you really lost me when you said except for Moroccan Arabic. I literally watched the video over and over again just to understand what you were saying. can (may) you elaborate more on this subject. It really caught my attention, and I would really appreciate it🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦

  • @digitaltutorials1
    @digitaltutorials1 Год назад

    Bookmarked. I always run into IPA and have no understanding of what the symbols mean. Subbed for articulation.

  • @torch2nine
    @torch2nine Месяц назад +1

    Hey did you ever do part 2

  • @Bloodrammer
    @Bloodrammer Год назад

    19:30 19:53 both of those sounds exist in Bashkir

  • @Ryanetherite
    @Ryanetherite 2 месяца назад +1

    where are the other parts?

  • @Goddybag4Lee
    @Goddybag4Lee 2 месяца назад

    The ð is actually a thing in Icelandic and I assume it stems from Old Norse.

  • @calmbear
    @calmbear Год назад

    I really appreciate this and it is better than other explanations I have found, but I still had to listen three times before I felt like I could grasp the ideas if not really hear all the differences. For example, it took me a long time to figure out that (at 11:40) you were talking about the middle sound of “butter” and “ladder”, not the “r” at the end.
    I think it would have helped to have the chart always in front of me, since the words fricative, approximant, etc. are basically meaningless to me, so I would lose track of what you were talking about.
    I think I understand that after bilabial and labiodental going across, the rest all use the tongue. So “Dental” means tongue touching teeth, right? That wasn’t clear to me at first.
    I look forward to the rest of the series!

  • @rkozakand
    @rkozakand Год назад +4

    Voiced h is used in Ukrainian.

    • @eyeballpapercut4400
      @eyeballpapercut4400 Год назад

      Everyone's been throwing героям слава everywhere but unfortunately it seems few noticed

  • @Ben-ej1xp
    @Ben-ej1xp Год назад

    I always make more sense in my target language after an IPA or two.

  • @kim15742
    @kim15742 10 месяцев назад

    I love your humor, these videos are great!

  • @vednigavekar5270
    @vednigavekar5270 2 месяца назад +1

    Wait, where is part 2?

  • @mixal1608
    @mixal1608 Год назад +1

    Interestingly even though I have tried to properly understand underlying principles of IPA (as opposed to remembering individual sound-symbol pairs) a few times, this is the first time I understood some of these concepts in practice (voicedness and place, still not the manner).
    Thanks.
    Though I don't feel I can trust your pronunciation.
    Specifically your 'c' and 'ɟ' sound more like /tʃ/ and /dʒ/.
    To be blunt, it sounds like a foreigner encountering these sounds for the first time.

    • @keithkannenberg7414
      @keithkannenberg7414 Год назад +1

      He put a link in the description to the IPA website that includes recordings of all of these sounds.

    • @languagejones6784
      @languagejones6784  Год назад +2

      Fair point - they’re absolutely foreign to me. The link in the description has a variety of recordings from phoneticians; go by their pronunciations. And also, remember that these are realized slightly differently in different languages. Voice Onset Time might systematically vary between two languages where we use /b/ to represent two different, but similar sounds. I’m glad to have at least helped with remembering more of the system

  • @Bmonkeygurl
    @Bmonkeygurl Год назад

    I am not great with IPA, but it has helped with Arabic and Thai.

  • @wagnerjunior6524
    @wagnerjunior6524 Год назад +1

    I've got a question: if our vocal folds do not vibrate when we whisper, then how was it possible that I can still hear and feel the difference between voiced and voiceless sounds when I whisper them????
    I mean, of the only difference between voiced sounds and their voiceless counterparts is the vibration in our vocal folds then they should all sound the same when we whisper, yet they feel and sound different, why is it? Is there anything I'm missing here maybe???

  • @romulo9454
    @romulo9454 6 месяцев назад

    Part 2 when??? Please, this was the best video about IPA I've found so far. I can't believe it is just one video 🥲

  • @littlejoelgriffo2
    @littlejoelgriffo2 25 дней назад +1

    Wen part 2?

  • @arnhuber5115
    @arnhuber5115 Год назад

    When will the next part come out? Im super excited been waiting ten days lol