Battlemaster vs Paladin - Same Cost (C&C Generals ZH)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @NostalgicGamerRickOShay
    @NostalgicGamerRickOShay 2 года назад +33

    Your description fails to take into consideration The horde bonus that the Battle Master tanks get when they are in groups of five or more.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 11 месяцев назад +1

      In mixed unit composition, Battlemasters would also have propaganda bonus from Overlords.

  • @pumkintheboi7545
    @pumkintheboi7545 2 года назад +21

    i remember battlemaster and gattling tank rushing my dad, he found a counter to it eventually but not before pissing him off countless times

  • @allanwong3447
    @allanwong3447 2 года назад +65

    No wonder why people use rocket humvees instead of tanks in competitive games.

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 2 года назад

      USA Faction tanks are garbage.

    • @coel3572
      @coel3572 2 года назад +6

      rocket humvee is essentially a rocket buggy, but can target air units as well
      also no USA generals have tanks(except for laser)

    • @DocikaPTJ
      @DocikaPTJ 2 года назад +5

      Because of better micro , humvee is much faster than a tank and have much better turn rate.

    • @Thiccoman
      @Thiccoman 2 года назад +3

      tanks are just too slow to do anything, while rockvees are so versatile, fast and deal more damage to all targets

    • @whybndsu
      @whybndsu 2 года назад +7

      This is why rocketvees were removed in the ROTR mod

  • @adnanadil4498
    @adnanadil4498 2 года назад +35

    The Paladin is more well rounded, plus it has some problem with Composite armor upgrade- receiges only 20, not 25 percent armor. And of course, let's not forget the strategy plans, they give huge boost.

  • @ZhuYuan0148
    @ZhuYuan0148 2 года назад +8

    One of the best reason why I always choose China during multiplayer coop is the Horde bonus.
    Atleast 10 BMs per wave causes panic. Ah good old days

    • @watashielshaeddo5454
      @watashielshaeddo5454 Год назад +2

      until you meet USA player with rocket humvee and his micro harassment BS in competitive

  • @aaronveloria694
    @aaronveloria694 2 года назад +14

    Horde bonus. That's why i love Battle master tanks

    • @jozefkovac6858
      @jozefkovac6858 2 года назад

      Would like to see not enough BMs to have the Horde Bonus vs Paladins.

    • @mizuiro3494
      @mizuiro3494 Месяц назад

      Ahh your Profile
      sparkle/hanabi ❤

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver 2 года назад +20

    When I saw Palidan tank lose to a soloing marauder, that's when I realize they are not worth the General Points.

    • @xX_Pokeman_Xx
      @xX_Pokeman_Xx 2 года назад

      Yeah, it's kind of a shame that their only use is really successfully assaulting Patriots.

    • @marxLz
      @marxLz 2 года назад +10

      They're good as general purpose unit. But as you mentioned, they don't have anything special when it comes to firepower.

    • @MajorHickE
      @MajorHickE 2 года назад +5

      Perhaps not as strict anti-armor, but the laser is a good soft counter to scorpion rockets and stinger sites.

    • @looseycanon
      @looseycanon 2 года назад +6

      That is because Paladin is NOT a replacement for Crusader. In my days of playing, I always considered Paladin to be more of a counter-tank to GLA's Scorpion, which, when upgraded properly, can take down battlemaster, even in groups.The Scorpion rocket upgrade is the tipping point for this match up, but Paladin take's that advantage away, thanks to it's laser.

    • @vidara6093
      @vidara6093 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@MajorHickE​paladins can also shoot down scuds from scud launchers

  • @wes0112
    @wes0112 2 года назад +12

    i see a paladin as a defensive units, they're good on disabling rockets. as for battlemaster is really good with that china buffs.

    • @Thiccoman
      @Thiccoman 2 года назад

      paladin is meant to fight mixed units and base defenses, so while he shoots at vehicles and buildings, lasers will protect from whatever rockets come at them.
      Same-cost Paladins would win vs same-cost Battlemasters if they were tested vs mixed armies

  • @aldrichbalnazzar8214
    @aldrichbalnazzar8214 2 года назад +11

    Look folks 1v1 Paladin wins, in stuff these where the horde bonus is in effect Battle Master always wins

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 2 года назад +1

      Nope, 1v1 against a Marauder, the Paladin loses, and the Marauder gets a salvage upgrade.

    • @aldrichbalnazzar8214
      @aldrichbalnazzar8214 2 года назад +6

      @@Marinealver now now stick to the topic, were talking about battlemasters vs Paladins

    • @darryljones3009
      @darryljones3009 2 года назад +3

      @@Marinealver Then the Overlord shows up and literally crushes the Marauder.

  • @Doflaminguard
    @Doflaminguard 2 года назад +8

    Its kinda crazy that in CnC games, Allies/USA has weak tanks when in reality, they have a really strong tanks that they are still in use just minor adjustments to armors and stuff even as an old model.

    • @ugabugatugatuga
      @ugabugatugatuga 2 года назад +5

      because balance, USA is strong in airpower, while china is strong in ground

    • @AndrewsMachado-h6i
      @AndrewsMachado-h6i 8 месяцев назад

      The idiotic balance.

    • @Fullgrym
      @Fullgrym 7 месяцев назад

      This really didn't age well lol. Allied and USA tanks in Ukraine proved they burn just as good as any other.

  • @marxLz
    @marxLz 2 года назад +6

    You can also include temporary upgrades provided by the strategy center.

    • @NostalgicGamerRickOShay
      @NostalgicGamerRickOShay 2 года назад +2

      And he needs to make the matches only four versus four so that the Battlemasters don't get their horde bonus.
      If they do get to The horde bonus, then it's only fair that the paladin tank gets the buffs from the strategy center.

  • @paulmetzgar2604
    @paulmetzgar2604 7 месяцев назад

    That horde bonus really does wonders in tank battles. This is why I love to have attack choppers around as a counter.

  • @SoundShunter72
    @SoundShunter72 2 года назад +4

    After Zero Hour introduced Avengers, Paladins lost what made them unique. I would given the Paladin a machine gun to be able to deal with infantry or something.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 Год назад

      paladin should have laser plus machine gun to make it able to counter infantry considering that it cost a whole god damn general point to use.

    • @whatrulookinatm8
      @whatrulookinatm8 3 месяца назад

      they already have a laser point that attacks enemy infantry

    • @SoundShunter72
      @SoundShunter72 3 месяца назад

      @@whatrulookinatm8 You're right, I forgot...

  • @juannixs1524
    @juannixs1524 2 года назад

    Congrats on getting to 500+ subscriber keep it up your videos are amazing

  • @apowong76
    @apowong76 2 года назад +2

    Battlemaster Tank: Rate of fire is the key to any victory!

  • @alfredmarcos1761
    @alfredmarcos1761 2 года назад +1

    Sure the Paladin tank can have a drone and has a laser that can shoot down incoming projectiles but it costs a promotion point and I'd rather spend that on the a10 strike or the fuel air bomb

  • @nothaider3057
    @nothaider3057 2 года назад +2

    u should make a video on world builder how u make these videos and explain all the steps about it specially om armies and the civilian buildings

  • @emperorkane317
    @emperorkane317 2 года назад +4

    I'd like to see some infantry vs battles

  • @justin_isaac_rada44
    @justin_isaac_rada44 2 года назад +1

    Some USA and GLA ground units cannot fight China's mass ground units due to Horde Effects bonus if they are 5+ units of them. Soften them or decrease their numbers with artillery, air support and splash damage weaponry. Use Guerilla Warfare and Hit & Run Tactics against a large but slow moving army.

  • @mischaprudon3316
    @mischaprudon3316 2 года назад +2

    The Paladin isn't good in competitive, where it's good is in compstomps when your facing usa or gla.
    Why?
    Paladins are good in being a wall between your squishy units like, tomahawks, avengers, or even soms humvees (when the enemy has equel or more range then em).
    In china slug matches crusaders do fine but in gla or usa slug matches the paladins anti rocket laser is great to diminish dmg from stinger sites or rocket buggies.
    Patriots or other usa missile units.
    Yes they won't shoot all rockets down but, they make up for that in armor.
    Support a group of paladings with anti air or arty and they will do fine in compstomps.

  • @Adnqn69
    @Adnqn69 2 года назад +3

    Make it day lol i can barely see anything

  • @Adnqn69
    @Adnqn69 5 месяцев назад

    How do you make unit fight each other like this. Would you mind if you share this map with its scripts?

  • @selimcaner8270
    @selimcaner8270 2 года назад

    please prepare for us a new video which is about dragon tank VS toxin tractor or paladin VSmaruder or red guards VS rangers maybe rebels or emperor VS scorpion i liked this videos please keeep it up

  • @vladislav2523
    @vladislav2523 2 года назад +3

    Paladins are more universal tanks, battlemasters don't have so many advantages like paladins

    • @aldrichbalnazzar8214
      @aldrichbalnazzar8214 2 года назад +3

      Yeah but horde bonus doesn't care

    • @adnanadil4498
      @adnanadil4498 2 года назад +6

      Absolutely, they can defend themselves from air missiles and rockets and against ground rockets and missiles.

    • @vladislav2523
      @vladislav2523 2 года назад +1

      @@aldrichbalnazzar8214 yes, but you need 5 battlemasters to activate horde bonus, paladins with upgrades like ''search and destroy" and "advanced training" feels more sure on the battlefield

    • @vladislav2523
      @vladislav2523 2 года назад +1

      @@adnanadil4498 Also paladin's laser can kill infantry at a close range, sometimes it's a big advantage

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 2 года назад

      except being better per cost.

  • @LoWi96
    @LoWi96 2 года назад

    Subscribed yo

  • @lemonacidrounds7293
    @lemonacidrounds7293 2 года назад

    Go SCUD launcher vs deployed NUKE cannon all in range (without any of the units moving) but at least 100 vs 100 cause the destruction will be beyond imagining

  • @LovelyKuore
    @LovelyKuore 2 года назад

    The paladin is not using one of his best weapons which is the missile interceptor laser!
    And the battlemasters are made for raw battle in the open field, their number bonuses give them a big advantage.... are they up to date against chain blast? ANOTHER ADVANTAGE!!!
    In short.... I love the Chinese faction... but this is an unfair battle.... it's like sending the Navy Seal into the open field, melee without their tactical weapons, facing a gigantic group of barbarians, where his battle element is the OPEN FIELD GRRRR

  • @NostalgicGamerRickOShay
    @NostalgicGamerRickOShay 2 года назад

    Make it four versus four so that the Battlemasters lose their horde bonus.

    • @Nod_Soldier
      @Nod_Soldier 2 года назад +1

      Nope. It's a not same cost

  • @mintico
    @mintico 2 года назад

    Nationalism will bring us victory!!

  • @shadarf7237
    @shadarf7237 2 года назад

    nice video keep it up

  • @riceburner6739
    @riceburner6739 2 года назад

    Paladin strength is against missile plus US drone, China BM tanks has horde effect.

  • @aegeanharrier6648
    @aegeanharrier6648 2 года назад +1

    Now I wonder about Rocket Buggies vs Paladins.

  • @warlord9259
    @warlord9259 2 года назад

    У танкового баттлмастера с двойной лычкой и перезарядкой с апом на урановые снаряды, будет бонус преимущества в толпе против 5 Паладинов. По сути Паладин самый слабый танк в игре, Крестоносец на его фоне выглядит лучше.

  • @BBBS12
    @BBBS12 2 года назад

    battelmaster have way more units than paladin ....why not the same unit number ?!

  • @spacemanspiff6332
    @spacemanspiff6332 2 года назад

    Now do Rise of the Reds battles.

  • @102johnny8
    @102johnny8 2 года назад

    looks like he used 3 pc to make vid ?

  • @ettazss4159
    @ettazss4159 Год назад

    well add 50% china tanks 50% usa tanks cuz this doesnt prove nothing that china tanks are better cuz they are more numbered

  • @voimanakkiman2059
    @voimanakkiman2059 2 года назад

    Paladins are nighmare to gla players.just 3 of them with ambulance and just can do tons of harm gla army even when u skillful gla playa.

  • @odkoodko8609
    @odkoodko8609 2 года назад

    1v1

  • @jasonstephen7564
    @jasonstephen7564 2 года назад +2

    Why are your numbers always so wonky?
    800 * 60 = 48,000
    1100 * 43 = 47,300
    That is not nearly the same cost?? There's a 700$ difference. That's almost a full Battlemaster.
    Why couldn't you just do 55 Battlemasters and 40 Paladins?
    800 * 55 = 44,000
    1100 * 40 = 44,000
    This is the same cost without any difference whatsoever.
    All your videos are completely wrong about the cost and it's incredibly confusing why that is so when it's so easy to get the same cost without always having such massive differences.

  • @nishikatarq2656
    @nishikatarq2656 2 года назад +1

    USA 💙Is better. it is cheaper and tactical

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 2 года назад +1

      their tanks are garbage though

    • @ADMG2003
      @ADMG2003 Год назад

      ​@@Marinealverpowerful yet expensive