Here's the thing about the Caernarvon - it's _not_ a heavy tank. It's a Main Battle Tank. It's not supposed to be engaging in battlecruiser warfare (dealing and receiving massive damage) it's supposed to be a highly mobile, tougher, medium tank. It's supposed to move into position quickly, take a few shots, then relocate.
andre brito It's not that fast, but it loses very little off-road handling, and can accelerate/brake very quickly. The turning circle is quite small, too. Mobility is more than just straight-line speed.
jingles, could you do a show called history with jingles or something? or add more history in your reviews? I don't know if anyone would feel the same but I love your knowledge on tanks and aircraft.
In ancient times there used to be a building in every town containing lots and lots of books. Sources are unclear, but it has been suggested they'd let people rent books for free... ;-) Not that I disapprove of your idea. My point is people should start reading books again. If you're interested in ww tanks, the library can provide you everything you desire.... for free.
Jingles, More tank reviews please. Most are out of date now due to changes in the meta game and buffs or nerfs to individual vehicles.. I have 13 tier tens now.. but jingles tank reviews were a great help to me as a learner and even now are entertaining at the very least. Love a good tank review video.
Master Jingles didn't mention anything about crew skills or equipment so I'll give you folks one good recommendation: safe stowage AND wet ammorack. Why? Because Caernarvon's ammoracks are located on both flanks of her lower plate and believe me, I've had enough battles where the rack is damaged twice in that one round to know what I'm talking about. Fairly safe to say it's at least 3 times more often than the second tank racked twice. The biggest advantage of Caernarvon is after all great rate of fire of well penetrating snipeshots so you'll really need those shells flying as often as possible.
I honestly loved the Caernarvon after I unlocked the 20 Pounder gun. Got some crazy high damage just on account of how fast firing and accurate it was, despite the low alpha, along with the sooperstronk turret and front plate allowing me to hulldown pretty well at tiers 8 and 9.
Something I'd like to quickly say about the BP's turret, is that the frontal thickness in the in-game description is only applicable to the very outer edge of the front, as the rest of it is either covered by a monster 300+mm gun mantlet or much thicker armor. So unless you have the second gun on the carn or want the better view range and gun handling then I'd suggest sticking with the BP's turret until you do have the second gun.
I remember driving the Caernarvon. Even when stock, the Caern was a force to be reckoned with. People really expect this tank to have no hull armor, and to be sluggish. And... Well, it isn't. The upper plate armor of this when angled properly will bounce tier tens at times, and that gun. Ohhhhh that gun. This gun is capable or carrying tier nine teams, and absolutely excels at long range combat.If you like a heavy that can slug it out at range, get this tank. It's a lot better than it looks.
The only thing that really hurts it is the almost sluggish ROF on the Top 20 Pounder. For such low alpha It really is quite odd that at this point(almost to 9.6) it still has not received a ROF buff. The same can also be said of the Black Prince with the almost woeful nature of it's 17 Pounder.
Herminipper I know this. I've had mine for a LONG time and know what I'm talking about. It simply can not be used like a medium because it does not have the speed to exploit openings and under-guarded flanks like the Centurion can and because the armor is somewhat poor you can't afford to be caught alone in it. The last part would not be such a harsh case IF it had the DPM to defend itself from more then one opponent But most players will shrug off a 230 damage to out flank you because they know that once you have to start fighting more then one flank they have you and almost all the mediums can match it's reload or have a better one.
Since nobody ever realises that track traverse in the WoT garage is only listed for *stock* power-to-weight, here's the actual track traverses of the British HT line (top modules, no equipment, excl. terrain resistance): Churchill I - 25 d/s Churchill VII - 22 d/s Black Prince - 35 d/s Caernarvon - 27 d/s Conqueror - 35 d/s FV215b (120) - 38 d/s (garage listings are always correct for automatically elite tanks)
Hey Jingles, you forgot to mention how much better the upper plate is compared to the Centurion. When I had this tank I used to drive it in platoon with my brother in his Centurion and he hated the Centurion because in it you cannot shot ANY other parts than your turret, if you don't want to get penetrated. On the Caernarvon however, if you drive upwards over ridge lines your sloped upper plate becomes impenetrable while using that 10 degree gun depression to rip your enemies apart. In the Caernarvon you only really need to know where your enemies are (so you don't get shot in the sides and rear), know where to find small hills to climb/peek over and to hide your lower plate.
I have a few really good games on my Caernarvon. I even have some where I play really aggressive and face hug enemies to give them no chance to pen me. I have the FV215b, and I have got to say the tank line really changes from the Caernarvon on up. you will be blown away with the Conqueror Jungles. and the Fv215b is leagues ahead of that. I am happy to see you do this tank line, and I am one of the unfortunate souls that worked on the heavy line first and had to unlock everything when I got it.
Best game I ever had in my Caernarvon was amazing. Tier 9 standard game on himmelsdorf fired that gun so much I ran out of ammo but I got a Radley Walters medal out of it.
My recommendation is to not unlock the Type B Barrel on the Caernarvon because of two very good reasons: it firstly shortens the grind you have with it, secondly the stock gun Type A Barrel on the next tank, the Conqueror, has a decent rate of fire and its characteristics are close to the Type B Barrel and the Conqueror also has some hull armour that is worth mentioning, so grinding with that tank is more fun.
I'd have popped up tank inspector, the British tanks as modelled in world of tanks nearly all have side-skirts, they are only ~8mm thick but in combination with the 20mm spaced armour that the tracks provide and the loss of normalization even a 122mm russian gun witch gets overmatching bonuses faces upwards of 300mm of armour when side-scraping everywhere but near the turret ring!
Well Jingles, you didn't mention some of the major strengths of this tank, its great accuracy on the move and its great view range. when fighting in a team battle, I mount binos on it and provide some spotting for my teams of IS-3's
I found out that in the Caenarvon, as I recently just got it, if you angle it at 20 degrees it bounces a lot of shots. Hope this helps those out there who own a Caenarvon! :)
10:00 Glad you mentioned that (stock Caern.). For me, the stock Caern. was an absolute nightmare (for my play-style at least) I just couldn't take the grind trying to get it even started upgrading, it (the grind) felt so slow I wanted to /wrists due to being quite a weak stock tank (by weak tank I mean it is quite tough to get consistent and reliable damage, therefore reducing XP earning potential). I ended up selling it to go down another line of tanks. This coming from someone who played over 1100 matches in an M46 to grind xp/credits (especially the credits) for an M48 as non-premium at the time. (Though the fact the M46 does actually more closely fit my play-style is almost certainly a contributing factor to this)
I must say that I love this tank. It is not slow, got a good gun, and good armor. I get your point jingles, but I had no problems with the armor. I mean, I got IS3s or 110s bouncing off my front armor. The turret gives Tier 10 tanks problems. A 113 kept bouncing off. I was holding a ridge allone gainst an M 103, he could not penetrate my turret frontl and also bounced on my frontal armor. While I were pinging him to death. The gun depression is also great. This tank has the ability to fight over an hill. I was holding 3 tanks back, I could shoot over the hill and hit them, they had all kind of troubles. My favourite Tier 8 tank at the moment.
Stock Caern isn't too bad if you are tier 8 matched and under, above that it gets frustrating. Ground the British heavy line w/o premium up through the Conqueror before even touching the British medium line.
Thanks for another great review Jingles. And as you stated, please do more, we miss them -- the more detailed and longer with game footage are the best! Also, nothing wrong with re-reviewing a tank previously done in the past, since WG is dead set on constantly changing them all :P Thanks again!
Jingles I have the conqueror heavy the teir 9 british heavy tank and I think your gonna love it if you like the E-75's gun because the 120 on it is so much fun
Yay! Finally another review :D MOAR please! One thing, though: I'd really have liked it if one of the replays had shown how to handle the Caernarvon when it isn't top tier. As amazing as that 2nd replay was, it was still mainly against IS's, Hellcats and Co. How do I have to play this thing to not get butchered vs. E-100s, IS-7s, or even E-75s and ST-Is? I have the Caernarvon in my garage but I hardly ever play it for just that reason: when I'm top tier, I do alright. When I'm not, I can't do jack shit (excuse my French). It's just no fun to play for me when 2/3 of the time, I'm just fodder. My request for future reviews would be to have replays for each tier the vehicle can get into, to show how to adapt its playstyle in those different situations.
The 130 UFP shouldn't be take into account, as the tracks are so thick that to hide the side armour when peeking out a corner is difficult, but possible.
The Caernarvon has basically the same hull as the Conqueror. This means; never expose anything below the line that the headlights sit on, you will be ammo racked if you do, and the upper front plate, while fairly thinly armoured, is raked back at such an angle, that most tanks you will face cannot reliably penetrate it without using gold. You can even angle (slightly) to make it more troll. Just don't give the enemy a chance to overmatch your pathetic side armour. Also, you can often hang out in front of an enemy heavy, and get 2 shots into him, while he reloads. Hope this helps any aspiring Caernarvon drivers. Also the Conqueror in top spec makes the Caernarvon stock grind worth it.
Jingles I just wanted to say first off that I love these damn videos. You got me into World of Tanks(Xbox, but eh, roll with what you got eh?) and Ive since become a complete addict. You've made me try tanks I didnt think I'd ever bother with and in particular, the French BDR G1 B which has become my most fun tank to trundle about in and the Luchs, assuming I can get through the Cromwell and Comet, Im looking forward to the Centurions as well. So keep up the good work, and keep mye paying WG's bills.
TheQuiriGamer yeah i already do :P i just really enjoy jingle's videos and would be interested in some from him aswell! its fine if he doesn't... i have been a loyal sub since WT Alpha test which i was a part of... since then he has made me play WoT which i am now a big fan of and also WoWs, AW soon, and other good stuff
Hey Jingles, wasn't a good chunk of damage done due to his assistance actually from when he tracked the T-34 as it headed for the IS-3? It was like 237 damage right after a tracking shot. If that is true, that means that there's even far less damage done due to his assistance somewhere else.... maybe I am wrong...
The canearvon generally just needs a hill to do well, it has amazing gun depression so it can turn itself into a wall of auto bounce and just keep pumping out shots into its opponents. To be fair this is hard to do unless you are good know the correct spots in maps, and have support (or silly opponents) basically it has the same rule as all British tanks do they are either awful beyond belief or completely un stoppable and great fun.
Worth noting; the Centurion turret is not actually better than the Black Prince turret. The Black Prince turret is not in practice 152mm thick at the front; the turret front has a kind of 'ridge' surrounding the mantlet. Essentially, the Centurion turret is 152mm thick with a large gun mantlet; the Black Prince turret is 240mm thick.
The Caernarvon is actually a really good tank, but everything it does other than long range snapshots is simply done better by the T 32 American Tier 8 Heavy tank. Also, the really good pen on the gun with AP doesn't really matter in competitive play, because APCR. Not to mention that the accuracy of the gun is negligible at under 100M, where some engagements happen. IS-3's have no issues hitting weak points at that range.
I only played console. I think this tank is underrated because of the perception of other players. They tend to target other tanks. They don't assume that you are a threat. It puts you in a good position when someone is looking the other way.
Did jingles just call the conquerer a proper heavy? My experience was that of a strange looking TD with the conquerer, considering how anything equal tier or higher could pen the turret cheeks and it has the hull of the caenavon.
I do quite like the Caernarvon. While it does have low DPM in comparison to the BP, anyone who has driven the BP will tell you only 1 out of every 5 shots actually goes in due to average accuracy and weak pen. In the Caernarvon, on the other hand, due to it's great gun handling and fantastic pen, most shots go right into a weakspot and pen. The armor may look bad on paper, but that second clip is a perfect example of how to drive a Caernarvon. Get on a backwards slope, with the ridgeline covering your lower plate, at medium ranges where they can't pinpoint the weak roof of your turret, and keep moving. This thing can bounce all comers in those kind of positions, including trolling a few tier 10 guns (Not that you should rely on that).
Not really. With the BP you can be in a position where you don't need high accuracy to hit,while doing so in a Carn will only end up with you in flames. Also the 17pdr had more than enough pen to handle any t7 without giving much thought about weakspots. On t8s you really need to aim carefully and yes only about 60/70% will go through, while it's almost useless against t9. The same applies to the 20pdr B, with the exception it can handle some tier 10s. The big difference is the durability of both tanks. Skilled BP's driver will give a HARD time trying to get rid of them. With some support so you don't get rushed, you can sidescrape all day long in a BP without taking damage (thanks to the better turret,which is actually 240mm and 152mm on the edges, which are far more tricky to hit than the upper front turret) and ,yes, you might not do a lot of damage in t9 games, but you will end up being a super scout. The only superior thing about the Caern is the gun depression, but i'll take a smaller gun depression for an impenetrable side armor (while sidescraping ofc) any day. I almost forgot: the BP is far more resilient to arty than a Caern, which is pretty important imo, since both need to hold a position in order to work properly.
samuele inzaghi Caernarvon is a hill tank, BP is a city tank. If you play a Caernarvon on hills with is gun depression it will last as long as you need it to. BP has a stronger turret front for sure but you rarely get to take advantage of that.
I love the British heavy line, had some great games in the Churchys and the BP. Almost done grinding through the Caernarvon and yeah I like it as well. The low damage on the Brit heavies seems like it would suck to play but being able to constantly fire and track peeps faster than most other heavies can really be fun sometimes : D
the fire on the T34-2's front isnt really suprising. when i play my t34-1 i get set on fire almost every time someone shoots me in the front. I mean getting engine dmg in Germans from the front is annoying enough but also geting set on fire is just so frustrating.
The Caernarvon's engine deck isn't the only issue it has against artillery... the roof armor in front of the turret is also massive and incredibly weak, and a significant portion of the Caern's turret front 0is angled forward with only 51mm of armor. There is a significantly large portion of the side armor of 51mm that isn't protected by the tracks or spaced armor as well. The commander's cupola's side armor offers very minimal protection against arty HE penetration due to how small that strip of 121 armor is relative to the size of the turret. It is simply one of my favorite tanks to shoot at as an Arty player.
Edrycson Abinan yeah if you don't rush into taking a shot you can always trade damage for damage even against a hull down Caern. The gun mantlet is actually pretty small and it's easy to shoot the upper front, the cheeks or even turret ring (which actually is a good spot to shoot because you're probably gonna jam his turret with 1 or 2 shots. Another annoying issue is that almost every single shot in the lower glacis will either fuck up your engine/ammo rack or kill the driver or both.
Great tank, I really hated the BP and now I get this and I'm in love. A keeper for me as a HUGE fan of the gun and British high tiers in general (meds and heavies atleast). Can't wait for the conqueror and chieftain
Well it certainly was not your first game, way back in 2011 back in October around when I first subbed, you did a video on british heavys being introduced. I loved your old intro with the gun sounds
The Caernarvon is more of a universal tank. I have owned mine since patch 8.1 and I think is way better then the IS3. You can push, brawling and snipe with it. I kinda feel that Jingles hasn't really played the Caernarvon enough to see it's full potential.
well yes the second replay showed the tank as a good tank BUT how does this tank perform when not top tier and on a map like himmelsdorf where u cant hide your hull?
Spot on, it's not bad, it's not great. That was a great game by the guy at the end but look what he faced, tier 8 mediums, 1 premium heavy and mainly tier 6s and 7s, very few TDs. Against 170-200mm pen guns the Caernarvon will bounce it's fair share if you hide that lower plate. What it really needs is a DPM boost, that reload should 1.5 seconds quicker at least then it would be a really fun tank to use. Oh and the Conqueror is not a proper heavy tank, it has a Heavy Tank gun but it's armour is actually WORSE than the Caernarvon and it again very much a support tank.
So, Jingles, remember when you put up your review of the Löwe tier 8 premium heavy tank, saying you were going to revisit older tanks you hadn't reviewed in a while? (Of course, in the Löwe's case...) Maybe some of your next few tank reviews could be something along those lines. Also, can we expect a review of the AMX 50 Foch anytime soon?
Just from watching the beginning of this video, something caught my eye. I'm sure others will back me up on this. TOG!!! TOG platoon, Jingles. C'mon! You know you want to.
I really couldn't get on with the Caernarvon - I was totally hopeless, right up until the last few games before I sold it, suddenly did really well for some reason lol
Hey Jingles! If your going to make more tank reviews in the near future, could you make a video with short reviews of your favorite tanks in the game right now? My favorites at the moment are the LTTB and M41 Bulldogg, so much fun :)
The shame is that once you get to the Conqueror at tier 9 you have to use the same hull with a better gun but with a way worse turret. You need parkinsons to be able to wiggle the turret on the conqueror enough to get bounces and yet there is that gigantic cupola ontop which is the first thing the enemy sees if you try to go hull down with it. I still love the conqueror and the caernarvon though, they are not bad tanks, but be prepared to be penned alot if you even show anything but the upper plate at an angle. FV215b gets a really strong turret at tier 10, but yet again the hull armor is riddled with flat surfaces and other weakspots.
I really dont kniw why everyone is complaining about the long outro. I LOVE it. I always take the time to read some comments and listen to the musik :3 If you think its too long you could always turn it off...
Is there any possible way to slip a tank review once a week in your schedule? As you said before it'd be nice to go back to doing them more often. Great review btw, the tank has a place in my garage :)
An old fashioned jingles' tank review :D
Your new content is always getting better, but nothing beats the classics.
agree, i love the tank reviews!
he needs to do warthunder tank reviews
Bobby D No he doesn't. War Thunder sucks ass.
tetramanus
Opinions are a very complicated thing, eh?
tetramanus warthunder is awesome idk what your talking about
Warrant Officer Class 3 Sexey
Staff Sergeant Sargent
Stabsfeldwebel Bieber
Are you kidding us Jingles?
Blind luck, I swear!
Good to know I wasnt the only one who noticed :)
The Mighty Jingles
hahaha, Sargent Buck Sexey Drives my Chaffee :)
One of my artillery loaders used to be Sergeant Scare before he got promoted :D
Crimsun Barun It's not really naming. You can only use preset names, not make stuff up yourself.
Yes! PLEASE bring back your tank reviews, that's what brought me to your channel, your replays just made me stay. :)
Here's the thing about the Caernarvon - it's _not_ a heavy tank. It's a Main Battle Tank. It's not supposed to be engaging in battlecruiser warfare (dealing and receiving massive damage) it's supposed to be a highly mobile, tougher, medium tank. It's supposed to move into position quickly, take a few shots, then relocate.
The Centurion is also a Main Battle Tank which explains why they are both similar.
Spot on, good man!
highly mobile??? sure with 34kph
andre brito It's not that fast, but it loses very little off-road handling, and can accelerate/brake very quickly. The turning circle is quite small, too. Mobility is more than just straight-line speed.
It was designed to be a heavy tank
Yes this is how good review should look like. All prepared up front,lots of cuts on the important stuff. Very good Jingles.
The return of the good old tank reviews, perfect time to take it easy.
Thanks for the respite.
jingles, could you do a show called history with jingles or something? or add more history in your reviews? I don't know if anyone would feel the same but I love your knowledge on tanks and aircraft.
That's an awesome idea, i'd love for him to do a history peice on certain tanks/planes.
In ancient times there used to be a building in every town containing lots and lots of books. Sources are unclear, but it has been suggested they'd let people rent books for free... ;-)
Not that I disapprove of your idea. My point is people should start reading books again. If you're interested in ww tanks, the library can provide you everything you desire.... for free.
Btw: Jingles has uploaded history vids before. He basically talks about the tank during replays. Search for various War Thunder sim videos.
Jack Rolfland yeah, but the library doesn't have jingles's voice. Ive watched most of his history shiz and know I can't get my fix :(
please do this pllllsssssss @themightyjingles
Please, more Tank Reviews, there is nothing like settling in for 40 - 50 minutes for a nice dose of Jingles !
yes honestly my fave content you provide is the classic tank review Jingles, i would love it if you brought it back more.
I haven't been blessed with a Jingles review in quite some time. What a way to start my day!
Jingles,
More tank reviews please. Most are out of date now due to changes in the meta game and buffs or nerfs to individual vehicles.. I have 13 tier tens now.. but jingles tank reviews were a great help to me as a learner and even now are entertaining at the very least. Love a good tank review video.
Always grateful for your WOT tank reviews! There are many great wot youtubers who make decent reviews, but yours are the best IMO
Master Jingles didn't mention anything about crew skills or equipment so I'll give you folks one good recommendation: safe stowage AND wet ammorack. Why? Because Caernarvon's ammoracks are located on both flanks of her lower plate and believe me, I've had enough battles where the rack is damaged twice in that one round to know what I'm talking about. Fairly safe to say it's at least 3 times more often than the second tank racked twice. The biggest advantage of Caernarvon is after all great rate of fire of well penetrating snipeshots so you'll really need those shells flying as often as possible.
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Your tank commander's name Jingles! Its Sexey! LOL
This tank is actually cool looking! and a fast tank compared to the BLack Prince :D
Looks cool? What are you smoking Sherman? It looks like a centurion got drunk one night and met her brother who happened to be a conquerer.
Phoenix Fire
Beauty tends to be quite subjective though.
Yeah I agree. All it needs is a bustle on the back of the turret and it's perfect =)
Dont lie it is purty ugly...
TNX255
or some fuel cans and things to make the engine deck look better, it's kinda...naked.
I honestly loved the Caernarvon after I unlocked the 20 Pounder gun. Got some crazy high damage just on account of how fast firing and accurate it was, despite the low alpha, along with the sooperstronk turret and front plate allowing me to hulldown pretty well at tiers 8 and 9.
I like when you do tank reviews it lets me know what other people that are average are thinking about higher tier tanks. It gives me a tank to go to.
Spent most of my holidays binge watching Jingles, bruhhh, holiday well spent 👌
Something I'd like to quickly say about the BP's turret, is that the frontal thickness in the in-game description is only applicable to the very outer edge of the front, as the rest of it is either covered by a monster 300+mm gun mantlet or much thicker armor. So unless you have the second gun on the carn or want the better view range and gun handling then I'd suggest sticking with the BP's turret until you do have the second gun.
I remember driving the Caernarvon. Even when stock, the Caern was a force to be reckoned with. People really expect this tank to have no hull armor, and to be sluggish. And... Well, it isn't. The upper plate armor of this when angled properly will bounce tier tens at times, and that gun. Ohhhhh that gun. This gun is capable or carrying tier nine teams, and absolutely excels at long range combat.If you like a heavy that can slug it out at range, get this tank. It's a lot better than it looks.
The only thing that really hurts it is the almost sluggish ROF on the Top 20 Pounder. For such low alpha It really is quite odd that at this point(almost to 9.6) it still has not received a ROF buff. The same can also be said of the Black Prince with the almost woeful nature of it's 17 Pounder.
This isn't a heavy tank. It's a main battle tank. You have to play it like a medium tank with better armour.
Herminipper I know this. I've had mine for a LONG time and know what I'm talking about. It simply can not be used like a medium because it does not have the speed to exploit openings and under-guarded flanks like the Centurion can and because the armor is somewhat poor you can't afford to be caught alone in it. The last part would not be such a harsh case IF it had the DPM to defend itself from more then one opponent But most players will shrug off a 230 damage to out flank you because they know that once you have to start fighting more then one flank they have you and almost all the mediums can match it's reload or have a better one.
Herminipper Medium can outDPM you, so...
samuele inzaghi They can also bounce off me.
Oh Jingles, I absolutely love my Caernarvon, I would say its the best vehicle I play with and I find it to be my favorite tank in the game so far!
Since nobody ever realises that track traverse in the WoT garage is only listed for *stock* power-to-weight, here's the actual track traverses of the British HT line (top modules, no equipment, excl. terrain resistance):
Churchill I - 25 d/s
Churchill VII - 22 d/s
Black Prince - 35 d/s
Caernarvon - 27 d/s
Conqueror - 35 d/s
FV215b (120) - 38 d/s (garage listings are always correct for automatically elite tanks)
Hey Jingles, you forgot to mention how much better the upper plate is compared to the Centurion.
When I had this tank I used to drive it in platoon with my brother in his Centurion and he hated the Centurion because in it you cannot shot ANY other parts than your turret, if you don't want to get penetrated.
On the Caernarvon however, if you drive upwards over ridge lines your sloped upper plate becomes impenetrable while using that 10 degree gun depression to rip your enemies apart. In the Caernarvon you only really need to know where your enemies are (so you don't get shot in the sides and rear), know where to find small hills to climb/peek over and to hide your lower plate.
Yay, new tank review!!!!
Love the various series but I love these the most
I have a few really good games on my Caernarvon. I even have some where I play really aggressive and face hug enemies to give them no chance to pen me. I have the FV215b, and I have got to say the tank line really changes from the Caernarvon on up. you will be blown away with the Conqueror Jungles. and the Fv215b is leagues ahead of that. I am happy to see you do this tank line, and I am one of the unfortunate souls that worked on the heavy line first and had to unlock everything when I got it.
what could be better watching the mighty jingles while eating popcorn
A Jingles tank review in under 30 minutes?? This is madness!! :P
Thank you for reviewing my current favourite Tier VIII heavy.
Best game I ever had in my Caernarvon was amazing. Tier 9 standard game on himmelsdorf fired that gun so much I ran out of ammo but I got a Radley Walters medal out of it.
My recommendation is to not unlock the Type B Barrel on the Caernarvon because of two very good reasons: it firstly shortens the grind you have with it, secondly the stock gun Type A Barrel on the next tank, the Conqueror, has a decent rate of fire and its characteristics are close to the Type B Barrel and the Conqueror also has some hull armour that is worth mentioning, so grinding with that tank is more fun.
I'd have popped up tank inspector, the British tanks as modelled in world of tanks nearly all have side-skirts, they are only ~8mm thick but in combination with the 20mm spaced armour that the tracks provide and the loss of normalization even a 122mm russian gun witch gets overmatching bonuses faces upwards of 300mm of armour when side-scraping everywhere but near the turret ring!
Is nobody going to mention the fact that Jingles' commander is named Warrant Officer Sexey, and his gunner is named Sergeant Sargent?
Well Jingles, you didn't mention some of the major strengths of this tank, its great accuracy on the move and its great view range. when fighting in a team battle, I mount binos on it and provide some spotting for my teams of IS-3's
Thanks for another tank review Jingles. Been waiting for ages :)
I found out that in the Caenarvon, as I recently just got it, if you angle it at 20 degrees it bounces a lot of shots. Hope this helps those out there who own a Caenarvon! :)
With an stock tank this feels lot better allready than other tanks in british heavy line. Except MATILDA
10:00 Glad you mentioned that (stock Caern.). For me, the stock Caern. was an absolute nightmare (for my play-style at least) I just couldn't take the grind trying to get it even started upgrading, it (the grind) felt so slow I wanted to /wrists due to being quite a weak stock tank (by weak tank I mean it is quite tough to get consistent and reliable damage, therefore reducing XP earning potential). I ended up selling it to go down another line of tanks.
This coming from someone who played over 1100 matches in an M46 to grind xp/credits (especially the credits) for an M48 as non-premium at the time.
(Though the fact the M46 does actually more closely fit my play-style is almost certainly a contributing factor to this)
I must say that I love this tank.
It is not slow, got a good gun, and good armor.
I get your point jingles, but I had no problems with the armor.
I mean, I got IS3s or 110s bouncing off my front armor.
The turret gives Tier 10 tanks problems.
A 113 kept bouncing off. I was holding a ridge allone gainst an M 103, he could not penetrate my turret frontl and also bounced on my frontal armor. While I were pinging him to death. The gun depression is also great. This tank has the ability to fight over an hill. I was holding 3 tanks back, I could shoot over the hill and hit them, they had all kind of troubles. My favourite Tier 8 tank at the moment.
Stock Caern isn't too bad if you are tier 8 matched and under, above that it gets frustrating. Ground the British heavy line w/o premium up through the Conqueror before even touching the British medium line.
Please do more, I just love hearing you ramble on :)
i agree with the sentiment that you should be doing more of these, i myself find them quite entertaining!
I'm very surprised that jingles' review of this tank.
I thought that he'd like it, because it opens more options for combat than most heavies.
Thanks for another great review Jingles. And as you stated, please do more, we miss them -- the more detailed and longer with game footage are the best! Also, nothing wrong with re-reviewing a tank previously done in the past, since WG is dead set on constantly changing them all :P Thanks again!
I loved my Caernarvon, not as much as my Centurions but still up there; only beaten out by the Tiger II in tier 8 heavy tanks.
Jingles I have the conqueror heavy the teir 9 british heavy tank and I think your gonna love it if you like the E-75's gun because the 120 on it is so much fun
At 14:29 you have a damage indicator that displays the HIDDEN Rhm damage. Please resolve this thanks.
The Caernarvon is an awesome tank...it is fun to drive and I have a blast in it Jingles...Great Review as always
Yes. You really need to make more of these. Reason i started watching you Jingles!!
Jingles doing what he does best. There are still plenty of tanks in the game left to do a review on ;)
I just finished the Caern and I loved it. Had a 70% WR and 3 MOE It just works
Yay! Finally another review :D MOAR please!
One thing, though: I'd really have liked it if one of the replays had shown how to handle the Caernarvon when it isn't top tier. As amazing as that 2nd replay was, it was still mainly against IS's, Hellcats and Co. How do I have to play this thing to not get butchered vs. E-100s, IS-7s, or even E-75s and ST-Is? I have the Caernarvon in my garage but I hardly ever play it for just that reason: when I'm top tier, I do alright. When I'm not, I can't do jack shit (excuse my French). It's just no fun to play for me when 2/3 of the time, I'm just fodder.
My request for future reviews would be to have replays for each tier the vehicle can get into, to show how to adapt its playstyle in those different situations.
The 130 UFP shouldn't be take into account,
as the tracks are so thick that to hide the side armour when peeking out a corner is difficult, but possible.
The Caernarvon has basically the same hull as the Conqueror. This means; never expose anything below the line that the headlights sit on, you will be ammo racked if you do, and the upper front plate, while fairly thinly armoured, is raked back at such an angle, that most tanks you will face cannot reliably penetrate it without using gold. You can even angle (slightly) to make it more troll. Just don't give the enemy a chance to overmatch your pathetic side armour.
Also, you can often hang out in front of an enemy heavy, and get 2 shots into him, while he reloads. Hope this helps any aspiring Caernarvon drivers. Also the Conqueror in top spec makes the Caernarvon stock grind worth it.
Jingles I just wanted to say first off that I love these damn videos. You got me into World of Tanks(Xbox, but eh, roll with what you got eh?) and Ive since become a complete addict. You've made me try tanks I didnt think I'd ever bother with and in particular, the French BDR G1 B which has become my most fun tank to trundle about in and the Luchs, assuming I can get through the Cromwell and Comet, Im looking forward to the Centurions as well. So keep up the good work, and keep mye paying WG's bills.
stock caernarvon = just kill me now.
Jingles! Could you start doing tank reviews on WTGF?
or WAT The!! Get Fucked!
Himanshu Gogoi pretty much how i feel driving the KV-2 or M4A3 (105)
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***** I recommend you BaronVonGamez for reviews.
(Please take this as a tip, not as spam)
TheQuiriGamer yeah i already do :P i just really enjoy jingle's videos and would be interested in some from him aswell! its fine if he doesn't... i have been a loyal sub since WT Alpha test which i was a part of... since then he has made me play WoT which i am now a big fan of and also WoWs, AW soon, and other good stuff
Hey Jingles, wasn't a good chunk of damage done due to his assistance actually from when he tracked the T-34 as it headed for the IS-3? It was like 237 damage right after a tracking shot. If that is true, that means that there's even far less damage done due to his assistance somewhere else.... maybe I am wrong...
Screw history channel, this is where its at!
The canearvon generally just needs a hill to do well, it has amazing gun depression so it can turn itself into a wall of auto bounce and just keep pumping out shots into its opponents. To be fair this is hard to do unless you are good know the correct spots in maps, and have support (or silly opponents) basically it has the same rule as all British tanks do they are either awful beyond belief or completely un stoppable and great fun.
Hope you do more reviews more often, the standout thing I watch your videos for, think I've watched every single review now.
Worth noting; the Centurion turret is not actually better than the Black Prince turret. The Black Prince turret is not in practice 152mm thick at the front; the turret front has a kind of 'ridge' surrounding the mantlet. Essentially, the Centurion turret is 152mm thick with a large gun mantlet; the Black Prince turret is 240mm thick.
Can we get an updated Caernarvon breakdown please
FINNALY a new vid man ive been waiting all day today i turned my comp. at 10 and now here its 3 oclock.... FINNALY
I stop playing WOT , but this was the one of my favorite tanks.
The Caernarvon is actually a really good tank, but everything it does other than long range snapshots is simply done better by the T 32 American Tier 8 Heavy tank. Also, the really good pen on the gun with AP doesn't really matter in competitive play, because APCR. Not to mention that the accuracy of the gun is negligible at under 100M, where some engagements happen. IS-3's have no issues hitting weak points at that range.
Just got the first upgrade on caernarvon (Xbox 1), such a relief to finally get rid of the 17pdr!
I only played console. I think this tank is underrated because of the perception of other players. They tend to target other tanks. They don't assume that you are a threat. It puts you in a good position when someone is looking the other way.
Did jingles just call the conquerer a proper heavy? My experience was that of a strange looking TD with the conquerer, considering how anything equal tier or higher could pen the turret cheeks and it has the hull of the caenavon.
I do quite like the Caernarvon. While it does have low DPM in comparison to the BP, anyone who has driven the BP will tell you only 1 out of every 5 shots actually goes in due to average accuracy and weak pen. In the Caernarvon, on the other hand, due to it's great gun handling and fantastic pen, most shots go right into a weakspot and pen. The armor may look bad on paper, but that second clip is a perfect example of how to drive a Caernarvon. Get on a backwards slope, with the ridgeline covering your lower plate, at medium ranges where they can't pinpoint the weak roof of your turret, and keep moving. This thing can bounce all comers in those kind of positions, including trolling a few tier 10 guns (Not that you should rely on that).
Not really. With the BP you can be in a position where you don't need high accuracy to hit,while doing so in a Carn will only end up with you in flames. Also the 17pdr had more than enough pen to handle any t7 without giving much thought about weakspots. On t8s you really need to aim carefully and yes only about 60/70% will go through, while it's almost useless against t9. The same applies to the 20pdr B, with the exception it can handle some tier 10s. The big difference is the durability of both tanks. Skilled BP's driver will give a HARD time trying to get rid of them. With some support so you don't get rushed, you can sidescrape all day long in a BP without taking damage (thanks to the better turret,which is actually 240mm and 152mm on the edges, which are far more tricky to hit than the upper front turret) and ,yes, you might not do a lot of damage in t9 games, but you will end up being a super scout.
The only superior thing about the Caern is the gun depression, but i'll take a smaller gun depression for an impenetrable side armor (while sidescraping ofc) any day.
I almost forgot: the BP is far more resilient to arty than a Caern, which is pretty important imo, since both need to hold a position in order to work properly.
samuele inzaghi Caernarvon is a hill tank, BP is a city tank. If you play a Caernarvon on hills with is gun depression it will last as long as you need it to. BP has a stronger turret front for sure but you rarely get to take advantage of that.
I love the British heavy line, had some great games in the Churchys and the BP. Almost done grinding through the Caernarvon and yeah I like it as well. The low damage on the Brit heavies seems like it would suck to play but being able to constantly fire and track peeps faster than most other heavies can really be fun sometimes : D
Props to JoJo2802, that was one of the best replays I've ever seen
Thanks for the review Jingles. I have the BP and I'm getting close, so it's good to know what I'm going to have to work with....
the fire on the T34-2's front isnt really suprising. when i play my t34-1 i get set on fire almost every time someone shoots me in the front. I mean getting engine dmg in Germans from the front is annoying enough but also geting set on fire is just so frustrating.
the lower frontal plate is only 76mm thick which you can pen it with a stug 3
The Caernarvon's engine deck isn't the only issue it has against artillery... the roof armor in front of the turret is also massive and incredibly weak, and a significant portion of the Caern's turret front 0is angled forward with only 51mm of armor. There is a significantly large portion of the side armor of 51mm that isn't protected by the tracks or spaced armor as well. The commander's cupola's side armor offers very minimal protection against arty HE penetration due to how small that strip of 121 armor is relative to the size of the turret. It is simply one of my favorite tanks to shoot at as an Arty player.
Turret cheeks are very easy to hit at close range.
Edrycson Abinan yeah if you don't rush into taking a shot you can always trade damage for damage even against a hull down Caern. The gun mantlet is actually pretty small and it's easy to shoot the upper front, the cheeks or even turret ring (which actually is a good spot to shoot because you're probably gonna jam his turret with 1 or 2 shots.
Another annoying issue is that almost every single shot in the lower glacis will either fuck up your engine/ammo rack or kill the driver or both.
just deleted cearnarvon
Great tank, I really hated the BP and now I get this and I'm in love. A keeper for me as a HUGE fan of the gun and British high tiers in general (meds and heavies atleast).
Can't wait for the conqueror and chieftain
I do miss the tank reviews
Well it certainly was not your first game, way back in 2011 back in October around when I first subbed, you did a video on british heavys being introduced. I loved your old intro with the gun sounds
Jingles, the simulator event on War Thunder is back. I don't know about you and the others but I'm really happy in my pants because of this. :D
7:55 no you want to get track first because you will not be able to put new gun in your new turret not spending credits improved suspension.
I'm currently following this tankline, because I would like to have a chieftain in the future :D
you might also update some of the older garage reviews
You do realize that JoJo told the fury his damage in the replay
I really Like the WoT Intro, its badass indeed
The Caernarvon is more of a universal tank. I have owned mine since patch 8.1 and I think is way better then the IS3. You can push, brawling and snipe with it. I kinda feel that Jingles hasn't really played the Caernarvon enough to see it's full potential.
Jingles you need to do a review of the M103. I need to see your reviews to know how it all works, and I'm sure a lot of other people think so too.
well yes the second replay showed the tank as a good tank BUT how does this tank perform when not top tier and on a map like himmelsdorf where u cant hide your hull?
Spot on, it's not bad, it's not great. That was a great game by the guy at the end but look what he faced, tier 8 mediums, 1 premium heavy and mainly tier 6s and 7s, very few TDs. Against 170-200mm pen guns the Caernarvon will bounce it's fair share if you hide that lower plate. What it really needs is a DPM boost, that reload should 1.5 seconds quicker at least then it would be a really fun tank to use.
Oh and the Conqueror is not a proper heavy tank, it has a Heavy Tank gun but it's armour is actually WORSE than the Caernarvon and it again very much a support tank.
I love this channel, if I'm bored you're always there:D
Stay classy jingles and nice crew
So, Jingles, remember when you put up your review of the Löwe tier 8 premium heavy tank, saying you were going to revisit older tanks you hadn't reviewed in a while? (Of course, in the Löwe's case...) Maybe some of your next few tank reviews could be something along those lines. Also, can we expect a review of the AMX 50 Foch anytime soon?
you didnt mention the weak ammo rack which when your shooting it is behind the lower plate on your right
Just from watching the beginning of this video, something caught my eye. I'm sure others will back me up on this. TOG!!! TOG platoon, Jingles. C'mon! You know you want to.
I really couldn't get on with the Caernarvon - I was totally hopeless, right up until the last few games before I sold it, suddenly did really well for some reason lol
Hey Jingles!
If your going to make more tank reviews in the near future, could you make a video with short reviews of your favorite tanks in the game right now?
My favorites at the moment are the LTTB and M41 Bulldogg, so much fun :)
Loving the music in this intro!
Jingles, i think ill get myself a Panther 8,8 , tried it at the test server (without apcr) and liked it... but i dident see any team killers there
Good vid , and it comes along just as I am finishing the BlackPrince , spot on timing , ta-mutchly , Salty .
The shame is that once you get to the Conqueror at tier 9 you have to use the same hull with a better gun but with a way worse turret. You need parkinsons to be able to wiggle the turret on the conqueror enough to get bounces and yet there is that gigantic cupola ontop which is the first thing the enemy sees if you try to go hull down with it.
I still love the conqueror and the caernarvon though, they are not bad tanks, but be prepared to be penned alot if you even show anything but the upper plate at an angle.
FV215b gets a really strong turret at tier 10, but yet again the hull armor is riddled with flat surfaces and other weakspots.
I really dont kniw why everyone is complaining about the long outro. I LOVE it. I always take the time to read some comments and listen to the musik :3 If you think its too long you could always turn it off...
Is there any possible way to slip a tank review once a week in your schedule? As you said before it'd be nice to go back to doing them more often.
Great review btw, the tank has a place in my garage :)