According to the music files (yes, we're going that far) Pinwheel's theme is right after Capra Demon's, which makes sense considering when the clerics leave for the catacombs. There's still no set order for fighting them, but that has been my headcanon for a while. It actually feels like a real boss if you fight it around this time too.
Fun fact: A guy by the name of NGPlus actually did find a way to skip the Sanctuary Guardian! (He was doing a DS1 challenge run where he tried to beat all bosses in alphabetical order). You need to get somebody to drop you the Purple Coward's Crystal into your world. Then use a precise trick where you fall off a ledge while using a moss clump and immediately swapping to the Purple Coward's Crystal to wrong-warp outside of the PvP arena, which is beyond Artorias' arena. Then you can proceed through the DLC (relatively) normally.
I have issues with my own video, but thank you for shouting me out!! Honestly learned some things from this and going by the amount of souls earned is a creative way to fix that issue of boss order in a game like DS1. Amazing video and you did a RBO video really good justice.
I just started the video but I can’t tell you how much I appreciate it isn’t titled “CAN YOU BEAT EVERY DARK SOULS BOSS IN REVERSE ORDER?!” I’m getting mighty sick of that whole naming standard that has become the norm for challenge runs so thank you for not doing that and switching it up.
There is a way to skip the sanctuary guardia but it requires co-op to get the purple cowards crystal early, then use it to perform a wrong wrap. It takes you straight to the Artorias arena. A channel named NGPlus discovered it while doing an all bosses in alphabetical order run.
Oddly enough it's not that well known a skip because there isn't much point other than a challenge run but it is the basis for several good challenge runs . First I saw it was in a kill everyboss with moonlight greatsword run in ng . Wrong warps and boss skips galore . Got to hand it to Miyazaki, even if you are intentionally trying to, you can't get stuck even if u managed to skip a gold gate . There's always a way out
This video popped up in my feed, then I realized I forgot to sub after watching a few of your other vids earlier. I have now changed that. Keep it up c:
I'm laughing my ass off just imagining someone going all the way down to blightown, fighting Quelag, going all the way back up to Firelink, then all the way down the catacombs for Pinwheel just to return for Ceasless
I often die on the "tight jump" to free laurentius. here is a less risky method: 1. land in the depths and then jump directly on top of laurentius' room full of barrels 2. turn left and run along the ridge of the roof towards the tunnel. jump off the edge (using keyboard controls for precision) 3. you usually land floating above the tunnel, tap W until you drop down to the ceiling
Around 33:37 made me sub. Most fromsoftware game streamers Ive seen tend to leave out their screwups. He added them like thats how youre supposwd to do it🤣
Dude this was crazy. I tried the iron golem skip for the memes a long time ago and that trick is impossible! You did it multiple times to pull this off. Kudos!! What was the hardest trick you did to accomplish this run?
Putting Pinwheel before Anor Londo is not nearly as weird as putting Pinwheel between Quelaag and Ceaseless, at least if you're putting all _three_ of them before Anor Londo.
great video. I have no clue if anyone has commented it already but I was wondering: couldn't you also while doing the golden door skip on Duke's for the first time also free Logan buy all his crystal spells and then "make him a piñata" (lol) to drop teh TCC? afaik the moment you enter the archives the game triggers to put him there if you rescued him at Sen's. maybe some might think the TCC is a bad idea due to half the casts but, I think the damage does compensates for it mostly (and most bosses later on were solved on two or less shots anyways so yeah) anyways this seems fun and might be something I might try one day.
Unfortunately, Logan doesn't move until you either have the Lordvessel and go through his (leave) dialogue in Firelink, or you enter the prison. Going through the prison is an option to get him to move; but since I skipped it, he never moved. The TCC and Crystal Soul Spear would help with some bosses, especially Kalameet. So definitely not a bad idea if you want the extra damage from them.
@@splee5556 yeah this was what I was thinking, going through the prison. it will be something I will keep in mind then since I remember someone doing something similar in a challenge run once
I bought the D.S. collection and played ds3 and absolutely loved it! Then i tried ds2, and the controls were so bad. I forget how fluid and smooth controls/player movements have become. Old games just feel so jerky by comparison. Also, the graphics are just not good. I tried ds1 before i played ds3, and that was an experience to day the least, lol. Painful is a good word. Painful to look at, painful to control the player, and painful in difficulty settings. The parry timing and dodging were so different from modern games. Everything felt slower somehow. And if you need to do farming to level up some to help you get past a character or boss fight, you only have that starting area to do it in. So i just had to run through the same area over and over and over, and none of them yielded high souls, so it took forever. I know farming is repetitive, but when it yields good soul levels, it's rewarding cause you know it's paying off at least. Ds1 and Ds2 are just too dated at this point. Some people enjoy old games, and that's fine. But I just can't get down with these old a.f. games. They're just painful to look at and painful to control. The graphics are so bad that sometimes I don't even know what im looking at.
In DS2 if you could parry-walk the game amounted to just being a boss rush . That being said, if you know a way past sanctuary guardian then the rest is doable via boss skips, wrong warping (are there wrong warps in the dlc ?) or quitting out before victory achieved appears on the screen (doesnt really apply if you fog gated into a fight) and if not then at least ya didnt waste that much time finding out .
15:44 How come you didn't die to fall damage? I've heard of Fall Control quit-outs, or using RoFaP to have enough rolls to just meme roll all the way down, but never heard of comboing those two. What is the interaction here? Does fall control calculate fall damage based on distance from the previous roll? If that's the case, why do falls without fall control not do that as well? Also bonus question: Could you have done a fall control quit-out here?
@@EthereaL-m5f I believe it calculates fall damage with Fall Control from the height of the final roll. Fall Control has a bunch of weird effects (i.e. delaying death, causing certain kill planes to not work until it wears off). I'm not sure why exactly it works, I just know it does. Lol I don't believe a Fall Control Quit Out will work there, as the elevator is considered unstable ground. So you'll just end up back at the top of the shaft unfortunately.
Unlikely to exist in DS2, as it's on a different engine. DS3 is on the same engine as DS1; so there's a chance that it's possible somehow. But there's no known way to do it as of now.
I can see you doing so many bonkers challenge runs that eventually 'Beating Dark Souls Normally and Still Enjoying It', will be a challenge run you'll do.
I suck at getting the death cam for sens skip, everything else is fine, I've only ever performed sens skip around 3 times because of the death cam triggering. 😅
@@DerHaus If you go through a load screen or bring up a prompt on an item in a shop, the max item use quantity gets reset to 0 in memory. For whatever reason, the game lets you use up to 99 of an item when the max quantity is set to 0.
I kinda feel like soul duping kinda broke it bc you can get greatscythe and havel armor and that can beat every boss without issue, but i dont even play without glitches in normal runs so i cant talk 😂
wym you can't place the lord vessel without beating the four kings? just punch frampt after obtaining it to wake him up. and hell give you a schpeal about how you really are the chosen undead, and take you to the firelink altar where you place the lord vessel Edit: just to 31:10 and realized you were planning on going the dark lord route so frampt wasn't available to you lol
@@zennitheveringham4125 Yes. You can go to the Catacombs to get the Darkmoon Seance Ring before going to Anor Londo, which makes him accessible. (Or you can jump at that statue and save and quit to break it on load in.)
You can't access Firelink Altar without either ringing both bells, or speaking to Kaathe. Since Quelaag can be skipped, it requires one less boss than the Kaathe route. So the least bosses possible is Gargoyles, O&S and Gwyn.
@@splee5556 Oh, I thought you got to the kiln of the first flame via a wrong warp and therefore could bypass jumping down frampts hole? Cause wouldn't you need the lord souls to go through the altar the intended way anyway? (I'm halfway through the video so if you explain it later I apologize)
Holy SHIT good job man, and I seriously hate to be that guy, cus you don't deserve that guy, but its tehnically possible - one person who did it is the "Beating ds bosses in alphabetical order", you can just... go to Gwyn, and then do everything in ng+. But to be fair you still do need the lordvessel and I don't think there's any known glitch to get the lord vessel early. That's a shame, so anyways, exactly why do you need to kill bell gargoyles for the lordvessel?
In order to access Firelink Altar, you need to either ring both bells to summon Frampt, or beat the Four Kings to summon Kaathe. Since Quelaag can be skipped, ringing the bells requires one less boss than going the Kaathe route. So the least bosses route is Gargoyles, O&S and Gwyn.
Most of them do. The distance grab cancels send you are tied to framerate however; so Iron Golem skip isn't possible unless you're using something like DSfix to run the game at 60 FPS. PTDE also has some different glitches that can be used in certain places. For example, Eingyi Drop.
now beat dark souls in sideways boss order
OR in frontwards
You gotta do it turnways bro
or even turnwards if you’re feeling quirky
Try it in 5th dimensional order
PLEASE 😂
That Iron Golem skip was the most surreal thing I've ever seen. I love speed running so much.
yeah that's insane
According to the music files (yes, we're going that far) Pinwheel's theme is right after Capra Demon's, which makes sense considering when the clerics leave for the catacombs.
There's still no set order for fighting them, but that has been my headcanon for a while. It actually feels like a real boss if you fight it around this time too.
Fun fact: A guy by the name of NGPlus actually did find a way to skip the Sanctuary Guardian! (He was doing a DS1 challenge run where he tried to beat all bosses in alphabetical order).
You need to get somebody to drop you the Purple Coward's Crystal into your world. Then use a precise trick where you fall off a ledge while using a moss clump and immediately swapping to the Purple Coward's Crystal to wrong-warp outside of the PvP arena, which is beyond Artorias' arena. Then you can proceed through the DLC (relatively) normally.
Yeah, as long as you allow summoning friends in your run, you can do that for sure 😁
If I had friends, I wouldn't be here watching DS challenge runs
@@yds6268 real
@@yds6268 mos real comment here
It’s wild that ancient humanity’s development of agriculture led us to this point in history.
It baffles me how people find all this skips and ways to get around in the game. Great video!
Gwyn didnt give you his souls until NG+ so TECHNICALLY he gave you 0 in that NG cycle, thus making his spot appropriate
you get his souls in ng, you just cant use them in the same game cycle
@@brunomiguel6156 yup youre right but watch the video first to get some context on my comment lol
Well you can't use his soul to ng+, it auto-drops into your inventory upon beating him .
@@brunomiguel6156right . You cant get out of kiln of the first flame if he's dead .
I have issues with my own video, but thank you for shouting me out!! Honestly learned some things from this and going by the amount of souls earned is a creative way to fix that issue of boss order in a game like DS1. Amazing video and you did a RBO video really good justice.
As someone who plays almost exclusively without glitches, it was really cool to see you break the game like this!
seeing you get mauled in the room leading up to gargoyles was amazing
It's cute that this is put out in the format of a guide given no sane viewer will replicate this
This category is very fun to watch with all the tricks you have to perform
i have never seen that iron golem skip before. ive been watching these types of runs for a long time. thats amazing stuff, that skip. 🎉🎉
The way you piss missiled Ornstein was traight disrespect
I almost exclusively watch glitches runs but this was wicked cool great run
I’ve seen a lot of speedrun and glitch videos but this is by far the most impressive
41:23 Holy shit what a chad jump
My man just breaks everything he touches. Fortunately, it makes for an incredible video. Loved this run, skips were mindblowing as always.
🇨🇦 fellow maple leaf love these videos
whoa, so many skips I never saw before, pretty cool !
It's wild anyone found that Iron Golem skip, let alone half these skips
Your technical ability to pull them off 2nd to none my guy well done
finally a dark souls youtuber who doesnt make sex jokes for no reason whatsoever ive been waiting for this
I just started the video but I can’t tell you how much I appreciate it isn’t titled “CAN YOU BEAT EVERY DARK SOULS BOSS IN REVERSE ORDER?!” I’m getting mighty sick of that whole naming standard that has become the norm for challenge runs so thank you for not doing that and switching it up.
Approved !
this deserves way more attention
Absolutely love to watch these runs. Awsome stuff bro
This guy is better than most RUclipsrs
There is a way to skip the sanctuary guardia but it requires co-op to get the purple cowards crystal early, then use it to perform a wrong wrap. It takes you straight to the Artorias arena.
A channel named NGPlus discovered it while doing an all bosses in alphabetical order run.
Definitely the first time I've seen someone smack the Stray Demon before the Asylum Demon
Oddly enough it's not that well known a skip because there isn't much point other than a challenge run but it is the basis for several good challenge runs . First I saw it was in a kill everyboss with moonlight greatsword run in ng . Wrong warps and boss skips galore . Got to hand it to Miyazaki, even if you are intentionally trying to, you can't get stuck even if u managed to skip a gold gate . There's always a way out
Seeing the Stray and Asylum Deamons reunited is wholesome.
Mino is awesome, really cool to see someone do this run
This was great! Gonna go back and watch your kotor2 video next! Which game do you prefer to play regularly?
This video popped up in my feed, then I realized I forgot to sub after watching a few of your other vids earlier. I have now changed that. Keep it up c:
1:15 "gaping before quelaag"? 😭
1:18 you can't say that broo..
I'm laughing my ass off just imagining someone going all the way down to blightown, fighting Quelag, going all the way back up to Firelink, then all the way down the catacombs for Pinwheel just to return for Ceasless
I haven't seen most of these glitches. Bravo
Now beat dark souls without a liver
i can beat it without a kidney 😎 one of mine is atrophied bc genetics
Another banger, can't wait for more
I often die on the "tight jump" to free laurentius. here is a less risky method:
1. land in the depths and then jump directly on top of laurentius' room full of barrels
2. turn left and run along the ridge of the roof towards the tunnel. jump off the edge (using keyboard controls for precision)
3. you usually land floating above the tunnel, tap W until you drop down to the ceiling
Hope the next time I see this channel you get to 10k subs 🎉
1:37 Me who eats penwheel for breakfast the moment I land on the Firelink shrine 👽
keep making videos man you're on fire
Nice videos bro keep em coming!
now beat dark souls in ds2 order
yay splee uploaded
Around 33:37 made me sub. Most fromsoftware game streamers Ive seen tend to leave out their screwups. He added them like thats how youre supposwd to do it🤣
Great video!
That was really cool!
29:37 your chosen undead can swim, nice!
This was a great video
11:34 wow I've never seen that, so cool
Kalameet is now Kalameat after that Kalabeatdown.
One the great things DS2/3 did was make a proper boss order
Having the boss souls be in order
9:49 Never seen anyone do that jump before 😮
I like your accent.
Me too lol Sounds like west Chester or Philly PA
Dude this was crazy. I tried the iron golem skip for the memes a long time ago and that trick is impossible! You did it multiple times to pull this off. Kudos!!
What was the hardest trick you did to accomplish this run?
The hardest one for me was the Centipede skip, since I had never done it before.
Fun fact: You can perform a plunge attack on Demon Firesage but you cant to Stray Demon
Least glitchless gameplay of Dark Souls 1 Remastered...
Putting Pinwheel before Anor Londo is not nearly as weird as putting Pinwheel between Quelaag and Ceaseless, at least if you're putting all _three_ of them before Anor Londo.
I’m thrown at ‘you probably wouldn’t fight Pinwheel or Sif before going to Anor Londo’ ummm, every run I do? Why wouldn’t I?
Btw in painted world you can just jump attack the legs of the dragon and he will stand up so u can just jump down
When I first clicked on this video my headphones weren't picking up any audio.
I thought my phone was broken. 😂
Might be on its way out though. 🙃
so cool
I feel like there is no such thing as a Soul's challenge runner with a bad voice. Ya'll really won in life voice wise :p.
Master of Arts (Dark Souls)
Hey I just want to let you know that you are hilarious. I laugh at each and every one of these 7:02 specifically
great video.
I have no clue if anyone has commented it already but I was wondering:
couldn't you also while doing the golden door skip on Duke's for the first time also free Logan buy all his crystal spells and then "make him a piñata" (lol) to drop teh TCC? afaik the moment you enter the archives the game triggers to put him there if you rescued him at Sen's.
maybe some might think the TCC is a bad idea due to half the casts but, I think the damage does compensates for it mostly (and most bosses later on were solved on two or less shots anyways so yeah)
anyways this seems fun and might be something I might try one day.
Unfortunately, Logan doesn't move until you either have the Lordvessel and go through his (leave) dialogue in Firelink, or you enter the prison.
Going through the prison is an option to get him to move; but since I skipped it, he never moved. The TCC and Crystal Soul Spear would help with some bosses, especially Kalameet. So definitely not a bad idea if you want the extra damage from them.
@@splee5556 yeah this was what I was thinking, going through the prison.
it will be something I will keep in mind then since I remember someone doing something similar in a challenge run once
Wow just wow 😦👏
When you realize there is a way to beat Gwyn without credits :)
I bought the D.S. collection and played ds3 and absolutely loved it! Then i tried ds2, and the controls were so bad. I forget how fluid and smooth controls/player movements have become. Old games just feel so jerky by comparison. Also, the graphics are just not good. I tried ds1 before i played ds3, and that was an experience to day the least, lol. Painful is a good word. Painful to look at, painful to control the player, and painful in difficulty settings. The parry timing and dodging were so different from modern games. Everything felt slower somehow. And if you need to do farming to level up some to help you get past a character or boss fight, you only have that starting area to do it in. So i just had to run through the same area over and over and over, and none of them yielded high souls, so it took forever. I know farming is repetitive, but when it yields good soul levels, it's rewarding cause you know it's paying off at least. Ds1 and Ds2 are just too dated at this point. Some people enjoy old games, and that's fine. But I just can't get down with these old a.f. games. They're just painful to look at and painful to control. The graphics are so bad that sometimes I don't even know what im looking at.
I really should do a mage run of this game some time
Now beat dark souls in correct boss order
Did you know you can land directly on the second ledge of the 4 kings skip?
Kinda sad when you realize that AI disabled Capra is barely easier than normal Capra if the extras still have AI.
In DS2 if you could parry-walk the game amounted to just being a boss rush . That being said, if you know a way past sanctuary guardian then the rest is doable via boss skips, wrong warping (are there wrong warps in the dlc ?) or quitting out before victory achieved appears on the screen (doesnt really apply if you fog gated into a fight) and if not then at least ya didnt waste that much time finding out .
Nice
I thought you will fight with Manos with the start weapon and level, and with first start boss on highest) But still this run was amazing!
Can we get a dark souls 3 challenge video? 😊
Was gonna moan about you duping souls, but after seeing the absolute labyrinth you had to conquer I'm keeping my trap shut.
15:44
How come you didn't die to fall damage? I've heard of Fall Control quit-outs, or using RoFaP to have enough rolls to just meme roll all the way down, but never heard of comboing those two. What is the interaction here?
Does fall control calculate fall damage based on distance from the previous roll? If that's the case, why do falls without fall control not do that as well?
Also bonus question: Could you have done a fall control quit-out here?
@@EthereaL-m5f I believe it calculates fall damage with Fall Control from the height of the final roll. Fall Control has a bunch of weird effects (i.e. delaying death, causing certain kill planes to not work until it wears off). I'm not sure why exactly it works, I just know it does. Lol
I don't believe a Fall Control Quit Out will work there, as the elevator is considered unstable ground. So you'll just end up back at the top of the shaft unfortunately.
I beat dark souls 1 in diagonal order actually, so… train for 100 more years
I like your speaking voice.
Didn't expect Jordan Peterson would be good at Dark Souls
shouldn't you have done firesage and centipede before O&S since you would normally need the lord vessel to fight them?
Yes. But since Nito was later on my list, he was prioritized, which is why I had to do O&S first.
Brotha, is there a poopwalking in ds2/3? And if so, could you show us how you complete it?
Unlikely to exist in DS2, as it's on a different engine. DS3 is on the same engine as DS1; so there's a chance that it's possible somehow. But there's no known way to do it as of now.
I can see you doing so many bonkers challenge runs that eventually 'Beating Dark Souls Normally and Still Enjoying It', will be a challenge run you'll do.
Im always thinking who and how tf u find those skips and glitches
I suck at getting the death cam for sens skip, everything else is fine, I've only ever performed sens skip around 3 times because of the death cam triggering. 😅
Now do it while poopwalking!
I know this dupe with 999 arrows, but how do you do this with 99 out of nothing?
@@DerHaus If you go through a load screen or bring up a prompt on an item in a shop, the max item use quantity gets reset to 0 in memory. For whatever reason, the game lets you use up to 99 of an item when the max quantity is set to 0.
I kinda feel like soul duping kinda broke it bc you can get greatscythe and havel armor and that can beat every boss without issue, but i dont even play without glitches in normal runs so i cant talk 😂
couldn't you have activated a certain elevator to skip doing skip to get to centipede second time?
The elevator doesn't activate until you beat Firesage unfortunately.
wait why did you fight capra after gargoyles isnt that the regular order?
Basing it off the amount of souls they give, Capra comes first.
This is the most bullshitty bullshit ive ever seen someone perform in Dark Souls. Do it again i loved it.
wym you can't place the lord vessel without beating the four kings? just punch frampt after obtaining it to wake him up. and hell give you a schpeal about how you really are the chosen undead, and take you to the firelink altar where you place the lord vessel
Edit: just to 31:10 and realized you were planning on going the dark lord route so frampt wasn't available to you lol
ugghhh Manus is the final boss of the dlc not Kalameet
Good video though, thanks
1:30 is it even possible in a normal run to do Gwyndolin before O&S?
@@zennitheveringham4125 Yes. You can go to the Catacombs to get the Darkmoon Seance Ring before going to Anor Londo, which makes him accessible. (Or you can jump at that statue and save and quit to break it on load in.)
Why do you have to beat the gargoyles to get to Gwyn?
You can't access Firelink Altar without either ringing both bells, or speaking to Kaathe. Since Quelaag can be skipped, it requires one less boss than the Kaathe route. So the least bosses possible is Gargoyles, O&S and Gwyn.
@@splee5556 Oh, I thought you got to the kiln of the first flame via a wrong warp and therefore could bypass jumping down frampts hole? Cause wouldn't you need the lord souls to go through the altar the intended way anyway? (I'm halfway through the video so if you explain it later I apologize)
@@CB-lh4ph You still need to jump down Frampt's hole (or be taken to the Altar by Kaathe) to wrong warp to the Kiln.
Holy SHIT good job man, and I seriously hate to be that guy, cus you don't deserve that guy, but its tehnically possible - one person who did it is the "Beating ds bosses in alphabetical order", you can just... go to Gwyn, and then do everything in ng+. But to be fair you still do need the lordvessel and I don't think there's any known glitch to get the lord vessel early. That's a shame, so anyways, exactly why do you need to kill bell gargoyles for the lordvessel?
In order to access Firelink Altar, you need to either ring both bells to summon Frampt, or beat the Four Kings to summon Kaathe.
Since Quelaag can be skipped, ringing the bells requires one less boss than going the Kaathe route. So the least bosses route is Gargoyles, O&S and Gwyn.
do the glitches work in dark souls ptde ? i want to try this it's so cool
Most of them do. The distance grab cancels send you are tied to framerate however; so Iron Golem skip isn't possible unless you're using something like DSfix to run the game at 60 FPS. PTDE also has some different glitches that can be used in certain places. For example, Eingyi Drop.
@@splee5556 thx !!!!! i will check this ! love ur vids btw :)