The Score: Alvin Patrimonio vs. Nelson Asaytono, Biggest Rivalry of the 90's?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Where does the Alvin Patrimonio and Nelson Asaytono rivalry rank on the list of greatest PBA Rivalries? PBA Legend Jerry Codiñera and Former PBA Star Eddie Laure shares his thoughts on The Captain vs. The Bull.
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It was a shame Asaytono didn't make the Top 40.
What Nelson lacks was charisma. He failed to bag the mvp award even when leading the statistical race because of this.
Asaytono is the one power forward of the PBA ..hes deserving the 25 / 40 Greatest PBA Player
The Bull, one hand fade way shot.
No MVP. Not in the 25 Greatest or even the 40 greatest list. Not in the PBA Hall of Fame. Those snubs is the testament that Nelson was a wild man. Ganun sya kagaling to the point na winasak nya na yung ego ng mga nakalaban nya. Sa MVP alam naman natin na kaya nya ang problema kasama sa criteria yung players’ votes dun sya lagi natatalo. Pinakamasakit yung 40 Greatest na snub. Sure sige sali lahat ng MVPs but maraming slots na sya na sana sa non MVP. Pingris, Raymundo, Chito, Marlou. Sure those 4 guys had successful and memorable careers but Nelson scored over 12000 points 5th All Time. It’s blasphemous not to include him.
papogian kasi dati gawa ng media coverage pati hatak sa fans madami kasi pati PBA player pogi gusto pero sulit package si Nelson kung real basketball fanatics ka po at talgang naglalAro ka?
Si Asaytono ung equivalent ni Lebron s a Pinas. Kaso nangyari na sobrang napulitika. Di naman mayabang pero sobrang intensed and medyo mainitin Ang ulo pero regardless of that, kung maganda PR nya. Kaya nga manalo. G 2-3 MVPs
Sumira naman sa career ni Asaytono si coach Jong, Uichicho ng pinalitan nya si coach Ron Jacobs sa pag coach ng Smb at binangko na sya simula nung dumating si Danny Siegle at Belasco sa team.kayang kaya pa ni the BULL makipagsabayan at bumuhat ng team nuon.
Both are great pf's both can play back to the basket and face up they also have decent perimeter shooting mostly mid range, asaytono maybe is physically stronger than alvin but alvin has more moves, i'll give alvin slight advantage on defense but asaytono is a better rebounder, asaytono is a bit more athletic but i'll choose alvin over nelson if i have to pick one to be my star player because has leadership skills and charisma something nelson doesnt have
Thank you Jerry for including Bong. Sobra underrated ni Bong. Sya anchor ng alaska, parang point forward, though they have the best point guard (johnny) and best closer (jolas) and best coach (tim)... syempre alvin is above them but bong and nelson are on the same level and hawkins is more valuable as a winner than nelson though nelson is better stat wise.
nelson have it all even in amature award player champion player even PBA excluded MVP papogian kasi hatak sa media at player pati po? Laro lang kasi si The Bull di sanay sa media at PR.
I agree mas malakas si asaytono kesa kay alvin kung sa body siguro, but alvin is more consistent in his games. alvin is a true leader to his team. he gain the respect of his teammates. plus the factor that he is really a humble & kind player. he doesn't have to show exciting moves, simple shot is 2 pts anyway, he's a shooter.
asaytono must be one of the greatest too
liezl alfonso well said in favor of captain lionheart
i will say nelson is more gifted sa mga moves than capt..pero kng sa lakas ng katawan,,i would say malakas si cap,.,.or sabihin na nating parehas lang,,mano y mano,,talagang match lang halos pero me mga intangibles kasi si cap kaya sya much better ke nelson,,pero sympre respect pa din ke da bull,dpat 92 sya mvp talaga
isa lang kulang kay asaytono ang magandang attitude...dyan daig sya ni alvin...
Nelson asaytono forever!!!!
Top power forward alvin nelson bong
Si asaytono hnde nasama sa top 40 eh ang lakas nyan..tapos si santos nsa top 40 pero he's still playing in the pba dapat kunin nila sa top players ung mga retired na... tas syempre ung mga naglingkod sa bansa naten gilas un acceptable talaga un kahet naglalaro pa tulad ni castro 2 times best pointguard in asia.. asaytono in arwind santos out.
Alvin was above Nelson and Bong ... He was always on top during his prime ...
Nelson is always above the rim against alvin during their time.
Yes Alvin is good, but for me basic lang galawan niya. Si Nelson kasi everytime lulusub sa gitna ma eexcite kung anung moves na naman gagawin nya. Andami nya moves, very unpredictable.
Really? Patrimonio had basic moves? You really know what you talking about. Imports nga nagbabantay sa kanya pano naging basic lang moves niya? Have you ever watched his prime?
Nelson mas athletic pero Alvin is more superior player. Fundamentally very sound and very skillful at his position. Sa katunayan nga e nagevolve sya as shooting guard nung back end ng career nya and he did not have any problems doing it. Top 1 or 2 player all time si Cap
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Junemar, alvin, don ramon, benjie and johnny are my top 5, in no particular order. Pwede sa SG si don ramon, SF si cap, PF si benjie. Shempre 5 si kraken at 1 si flying a lol
6th man ko dynamite danny I, multiple positions uli. Joining him sa bench are jawo, asi, menk, caidic. Not sure sino last 2 spots ko pero candidates sina samboy, adornado, norwood (defense), others lol
Asaytono original kalawit rebound.
David Thirdkill ang original
D bull idol Yan #11
Hahah...naaalala ko noong dinakdakan Ni Asaytono si Patrimonio nasa tapat ko sila mismo nasa upper box ako Ng court side sa Cuneta Astrodome nanood ako Ng live noon at sigawan kami mga SMB fans Yong katabi Kong Purefoods fans ay lumipat sa may bakante Kasi first game sila Kaya Hindi pa puno tapos sa 2nd game bumalik din sa tabi ko
Sir Mico
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Sila The Cap, The Bull, The Hawk and The Tank💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Da bull.
Nelson the bull lakas nun idol na idol ko xa sa san miguel
Mga magagaling Power Forward noon
Alvin Patrimonio
Nelson Asaytono
Noli Locsin
Bong Hawkins
Victor Pablo
Dennis Espino
For me Nelson is the GOAT of PBA, next is alvin.
Yah right!😀 ikaw lang nagsabi nyan.
Kay Vic Sanchez lang e di uubra yang c da bull
Bakit naman sila magging rivalry back in 1988 ata mag kakampi sila nila jolas , jerry, alvin, nelson di lang nag work.
Tama ka dyan dati silang magka kampi sa Purefoods.
Kung entertainment Alvin pero kung sports Nelson kaso entertainment ang PBA...
Dyn napolitika si nelson sa pagka mvp, natalo si nelson sa boto ng mga player at media...di hamak nmn na mas malakas talaga si nelson kesa kay alvin
asaytono aq,idol q yan...
The Bull should be the GOAT of the PBA, prang import ang laro nya.
Nelson is good scorer but not team player no defence no assist not a two way player I choose bong Hawkins than Nelson in power forward position 2 way player
SUGOD LANG NG SUGOD KAYA SIYA TINAWAG NA THE BULL
May pulitika din sa PBA.. isa si Nelson Asaytono na nagbigay kulay sa PBA.. hindi yan the "bull" for nothing.. kaya pumutok nguso noon ni Sonny Alvarado.. nakatikim kay nelson...
Alvin is more consistent throughout their careers .. a leader and more reliable at crunch time!
Bong Hawkins is more of a role player .. who can rebound, defend and outside shooting as well.
Nelson Asaytono is one of the greatest power forwards who could take over a game but he lacked consistency and leadership qualities. That is why he was shipped to San Miguel from Swift bec the team thought Vergel Meneses was a more capable leader and scorer who didn't have attitude issue like Nelson. To Nelson credit, he should belong to the
top 40 PBA hall of famers at least better than Chito Loyzaga and Pingris and even Ato Agustin ..
Eksakto ang sinabi m sir
Lol. Nelson di sinama. Sinabi na ng mga player at analyst oh "epitome ng PF position". Kasing level na yan ng Patrimonio.
Sayang lang di nasama sa RP team ni Nelson since mas compatible laro niya sa international kasi he can drive and shoot. Stretch 4 na pwede mag big wingman. Nataon lang na naglaro siya sa maling era.
UNIVERSITY OF MANILA - ASAYTONO!
Paano Kasi Ginebra yung idol Ng mga Tao noon. Tapos si Nelson SMB Siya.
tapos si nelson hindi kinuha sa 25 greatest.. what the F 🤫
Never isinama si nelson sa phil team. Kaya pala hindi nag champion kahit isang beses man lang.
Kung sinali sana sya, pati un si alvarez, cgurado nakapag champion na ung phil team, di lang isang beses
sinama sila ni jawo..problema kay asaytono snub nya unh panawagan ni jawo...attitude ang meron kay nelson..si bong alvarez naman nabaril noon kaya d na nakabalik sa practice..
The Bull syempre, basic lang moves ni Alvin.
basic..pero hirap na hirap mga kalaban...3 na nakabantay basic pa sayo
@@batangkangkalo9134 Bakit may tripple team din nman si asaytono, basic nman tlaga galawan nya.
@@zaskatlas3369 basic pero mas effective.
Basic daw si Alvin imports nga ngbabantay at triple team pa tapos basic daw😀 Ngayon lang ata pinanganak ito di napanood si Alvin na Ironman of the PBA and the most consistent and prolific power forward the PBA had. Kung isa lang ang bantay nya eh kakainin lang nya ng buhay. I’ve been watching the PBA since the late 80’s til today so I’ve watched all these legends how they’d fair in their heydays.
Maring moves si alvin patrimonio boy
Nestor asaytono.😂😂😂
Parehas ko idol si Cap tsaka The Bull , pero 2 sa 4 na MVP ni patrimonio kay asaytono dapat , yung pangalawang Mvp ni cap dapat kay the bull , kaso sobrang popular ni Cap nung time na yun kaya sa kanya binigay , kaya umalis sa purefoods si the bull nun , tapos yung pang apat na MVP ni Cap dapat kay the Bull din kaso nag commisioner si ramon fernandez nang MBA e nung time na yun si fernandez pa lang naka kaapat na MVP si patrimonio 3 MVP , Kaya binigay kay Cap para pareho silang tig 4 na MVP
Naku kung magkasama si Alvin at Nelson sa isang team? Ewan ko lang
Instrumentalists Jade nagkasama po sila sa Purefoods, line up nuon Alvin,jerry, asaytono, jolas, jack tanuan, dindo pumaren, al solis
1989 pumasok c the bull s purefoods
Alvin steady sa clutch?? Sa PbA siguro.. yr 1994 asian games sa hiroshima.... ]Japan vs phi.. alvin missed two free throws in crucial seconds that could have given the win for the philippines.. andun ka jerry...
1994 asia gages
Ano ba pinaguusapan dito? In pba history diba? Hay pinoy!
na binawi nya nung nasa centennial sya against Japan 3pt play pa
FYI isa lang po yung namintis nya baka si Racela yung sinasabi mo watch mo ulit yung video