as an Armand fan its really funny seeing your disdain for him xD Assad and Jacob's performances were phenomenal tho, definitely a big part of why this is a fan favorite
One thing that i thought when i watched this episode is how....technically, this is the first time we ever heard Lestat. I think Sam (Lestat's actor) confirmed this because he asked the same question i did when he read the script. Why did we listen to Lestat's voice if that was only in Armands mind? The recolection was only from Louis and Daniel. But, as an audience, this is the first piece of reality we have. Points of perspectiva are everything in this show and we havent seen the real Lestat yet. Only Louis's, Claudia's, Armand's versions of him.
I love this episode so much and just adore Assad Zaman for all the different layers of Armand that he peels back on in the 70s flashback. He wears so many masks over time in San Francisco, Paris, and Dubai that I can’t help but find him ✨fascinating✨.
So glad to see your reaction to this episode! Every time you’ve talked about hating Armand I was waiting for you to see this episode. He is definitely cruel and spiteful and loves to twist the knife. When I first watched the episode and realized Armand planted Louis’ words ‘preserves his happiness’ ‘i had a hunch’ I got chills!
It's such a good nod to how textually Armand has strong powers of suggestion and use it unsparingly, but I dont think a lot of show watchers catch the extent of it 🫤
I really like your reactions! I think part of the reason that Armand was so unhinged toward Daniel goes back to Louis talking to him about Lestat for 10hrs straight. Armand seems super insecure about any possible bond between Louis and Lestat. In fact, I think he contacts Lestat against Louis’ wishes to punish both Louis and Lestat. However, Armand gets punished too when he has to hear once again how much Lestat loves Louis, not Armand. One other revelation in this episode: this is only the 2nd time we have encountered the real Lestat: here during his conversation via Armand and in S2E2 via his letter to Louis. In both cases, Lestat expresses his love and concern for Louis. He doesn’t seem angry or vindictive at all about their “recent unpleasantness.” Hmm…
trust me when i say lestat is not a one dimensional cartoon villain the guy is extremely broken and there is a redemption element to his story as there is for armand as well these are complex characters not characters to just be hated
@@PerfectlyImperfect93you can justify it anyway you want, but Lestat was right and they should have listened to him. Both Louis and Claudia were vampires that shouldn't have ever been made. Lestat knew it, and was trying to protect both of them from other vampires who would destroy them. He also had reasons for not telling them about the history of vampirism. If you have read the books, you know what I'm talking about.
it's crazy how armand left louis in a room with only newspaper on the windows and no blood for days (5 if we believe Daniel). we saw how quickly louis got better after he got armands blood.
Thankyou so much, honestly, for being able and willing to see Armand for what he is. And not being afraid or even hesitant to verbalize exactly how you're feeling about this character. Thankyou for being honest and very blunt about his sadism and cruelty, especially towards Louis... and not trying to give him some kind of pass or excuse, like so many other people do. It's very refreshing 🙌🏽 I don't think there's a "romantic" love or a connection between Louis & Daniel (I wouldn't be against it at all), but I do think it is a genuine connection and bond, more along the lines of true friendship. Than anything romantic or sexual. That's not to say that Daniel isn't attracted to Louis, because that's clear. For one, it's Louis. It's just a given. But it's clear that Louis not apposed to it either. But it does feel more platonic, than anything else. As to Armands physical and psychological torture of Daniel, plus his psychological and emotional torture of Louis. I 100% think that the reason Armand turned to Daniel and tortured him that badly, for that long, instead of say just killing him outright. Is because he wanted to really hurt Louis, but Louis was so incapacitated, both physically and mentally, that Armand couldn't actually "hurt" him anymore. So her hurt Daniel, in front of Louis, when Louis could do nothing to stop him, in a way that would make Louis feel fully responsible for it... literally to hurt Louis more. That's why the part where he's like "oh your fascinating boy", that's where he starts picking him up and slamming him on the ground. Because as hurt as Louis is, he's still worried about Daniel, still wanting to know if he's okay. He still cares about Daniel. And Armand hates it. Hates that Louis have any genuine connection to anyone or anything else. Because he does not have, and will not give that to Armand. Louis is already too broken, so Armand breaks Danial in an attempt to break that "bond". In order to break down Louis even further, without having to touch him at all. And he succeeds. He breaks Louis down so far, that by the end he's comforting and apologizing to Armand and essentially promising to "stay", even as Armand continues to terrorize and hurt them both. And then to cement what he got out of it (Louis feeling both like he wanted to stay, but also like the entire thing was his fault. That he was the "bad" guy), he erases it. So that Louis doesn't remember all that Armand said and did, so that he doesn't remember anything about Lestat, and so that he doesn't remember that while he did originally bite and nearly kill Daniel. And Armand did stop him. It was Armand ultimately that almost kills Daniel, and Louis that saved him, from Armand. And all of it, just to keep Louis. To keep him bound up tightly in the "prison" he created for him. And it's both funny and horrific & sad... that the "prison" door is wide open, and Armand is sitting in there with him, but Armand is the only one who can freely leave.
I can easily believe Louis was bored in that relationship, tho. Armand is unhinged and his real self is very interesting (to me, at least, he's my favourite in the books) but he also sometimes tries to mold himself into what he thinks the other person needs. And he seems to think Louis needs... a prison of empathy is a great description for what he's roleplaying in that relationship.
Your hate of Armand is so funny to me. He's my favourite character in the show and anytime you say hate him that's one of the things I love about him 😭
Love your reactions, but there is one thing I think you should keep in mind: in terms of toxicity - Lestat has never spoken for himself (everything we know about Lestat comes from someone else's perspective) he has yet to appear on his own. While we see Armand's, and Louis's, toxic behavior in the moment, we only ever see, or understand Lestat's behavior from other "interested" parties.
@@NerdGuyProductionsAnd that's why this is series: thirteen core novels, a spine off series, one involving witches, and one involving mummies. Werewolves maybe if the third series (The Talamasca) goes how I think it will.
You guys always say this but I don't see how this somehow will remove Lestats toxicity or downplay it lol. In fact if anything the fact that Louis is usually the one telling the story means that he often downplays Lestat negative traits. I just don't get why y'all are so convinced Lestat will be vindicated. In fact later on you'll see Lestat address how own behaviors
It might be hard to accept, but I do think Claudia never loved Louis the way he loved her. She stayed with him because she had no one else (and when she found someone more fitting, she was ready to leave Louis for good). Heck, she even left him in S1 (she came back, but I'm not sure it was out of love solely). So yeah, Armand is right, and Louis knows it, he acknowledges it and that's what makes him do what he does.
The kind of connection Claudia has is one I'm still unsure about. To me there's a lot of evidence that she does love him quite dearly just not on the same level as a companion.
Agree. Claudia loved Louis as a father/brother - an interesting thing about those relationships is that they’re not supposed to be your primary relationship. Of course, you leave your father, your brother, for your love interest. Even before Louis was turned, he went out with Lestat, he didn’t stay home with his momma and Grace, lol. But Armand took that natural degree of love and twisted it into something darker
If any of this was true then she would have simply left for Europe without him. It's ok for her to want to put herself first because she understood that they never would. She needed someone outside of Louis and that's ok. It doesn't mean that she didn't love him.
@@yanyan9356 I never said she didn't love him. She did, just not as much as Louis loved her, or not in the same way. I also think her attachment to Louis was healthier than the other way around.
Armand is my favorite character since I first read the books and I must say - I just freaking love how much you despise him, I can't stop laughing every time you're bullying him. He deserves that
The characters on this show- the more awful they are, the more I love them! Your reaction to the rest of the season should be… interesting to say the least 😂 The show lulls you in to the calm before the storm, and then hits you with ten more storms after that!
I don’t hate Armand. I totally get why one would, obviously, but I think I sort of understand him in the flashback. I mean, you spend like 30-40 years (by that point), and a person just constantly gets high and goes off with other guys, is obsessed with his ex, and then calls you boring. Armand is cruel, absolutely, but Louis isn’t exactly great to him either. Tho given the whole power dynamic (maitre, arun) thing they have, I think that emotional abuse is sorta what Armand seeks…
Your hate for Armand is something😂 It's completely understandable though. Him and Lestat are the worst (and that's why they're my favorite lol). I don't think there's anything romantic between Louis and Daniel, but their friendship is precious❤Seeing Daniel almost cry made me emotional too. It was a beautiful genuine moment between these two.
You are not the only one who has watched this show and potentially... Seen some romantic tension between Louis and Daniel... But I will let you know that it is not a canon ship. They never get together in the books and so it's very very very very very very unlikely that they will go that route in the show. 🤷♀️ You are absolutely free to ship them, though! There's a BUNCH of people in this fandom who do (I, personally, don't)...but I don't want you to get your hopes up that it's actually going to happen in the show... The writers in interviews very much seem to be sticking to the canon ships in the books, from what they have said. So their relationship will most likely remain platonic. If you do want to see people delving more deeply into that relationship though and making it romantic... there's a bunch of fanfic out there. Archiveofourown is my personal favourite site to use for fanfiction. Regarding Armand versus Lestat... Yeah there's a lot of discussion within this fandom about the different types of abuse that these two lovers of Louis direct towards him... Lestat is much more verbal and physical... Especially in response to his fear of being abandoned... And Armand is really mainly psychological with definitely some physical as he did leave Louis in significant pain when he VERY easily could have healed him with his blood immediately... But he let him sit in the pain for a couple of days first. So while Lestat can absolutely be manipulative... Armand is 10 times more manipulative and opportunistic, absolutely. Some vampires are naturally really good at certain "Vampire skills"... So some really excel at the Cloud gift or the Fire gift Armand excels at the Mind gift... As shown in this episode, where he's able to manipulate a humans memories, like Daniel... but he's ALSO able to manipulate Louis' memories... Armand is SIGNIFICANTLY more skilled at the Mind Gift than pretty much ANY other vampire in the book series, from what book readers have told me. And as for is the show is going to "make you like Lestat"... That is to be determined, for sure. There absolutely are people who decidedly do NOT like Lestat... But there are some people who start off not liking him and come around to him, for sure.... It is a fact from book 2 onwards (which will be season 3 onwards) Lestat is pretty much the main character of the books. The writers of the TV show have said that they are absolutely going to keep Jacob Anderson as a co-lead in the show... So they are going to have Louis around and doing more stuff than he EVER does in the books, which is a positive for the majority of people watching this show because Jacob Anderson is absolutely amazing on this show... After the first book Louis VERY much becomes a background character that kind of just pops up every so often... He honestly doesn't do a lot... but they have fleshed out Louis' character significantly more than he is in the books and so I'm really really happy that they're going to have him do more stuff ...I like show Louis SIGNIFICANTLY more than I like book Louis!.... But yeah Lestat isn't a side character... Or he isn't solely Louis' love interest... He becomes more of a main character... So he isn't going anywhere... And if anything he's going to show up a lot MORE in the future seasons, if they get the seasons obviously. But yeah you're absolutely free to not like him... He has a LOT of unlikable qualities to him. 100%... You don't necessarily have to like a main character in a show... I mean in my opinion liking the main character...makes the show more enjoyable! but you absolutely don't have to like them to still enjoy the show. The show most likely will be going into Lestats backstory in season 3, from what people can guess... And so learning his backstory... you might like him more or at the very least you'll understand exactly WHY he is the way that he is in current day... Because there are absolutely reasons for the behaviour that he displays in the show... He's pretty heavily traumatized but that isn't unique amongst vampires. It'll be interesting to see if your opinion on Lestat changes or if it stays the same... Regardless, you won't be alone in that opinion... There are absolutely people who have read the entire book series and absolutely HATE Lestat's guts... that's a valid opinion to have, for sure lmao.
Absolutely loving your reactions to Armand! It’s so interesting to see who different people will find themselves hating or empathizing with in shows about monsters like this. Louis is by far my favourite character in the show, but also as a gay man it’s such a strange punch in the gut to realize in a throwaway line that Louis is essentially a serial killer of queer men with drug issues in 1970s Sam Francisco lol, 127 men that he’s apparently had sex with and then murdered. And yet Armand’s treatment of Daniel in the wake of Louis’ comments somehow feels worse because we’re watching in real-time as he takes out his pain about his relationship with Louis on this hungover innocent bystander. Armand is maybe my second favourite character on this show, by far the most powerful vampire we’ve met in the series so far but simultaneously desperate to submit to someone, to not have to be in control of the coven, if his relationships, of himself, desperate to recreate the fucked up relationship he had with the man who groomed him, killed him, created him, and in the process hurting everyone around him, especially Louis
The fact that we have to wrestle with our own morality and the lines we will or won’t cross for fictional characters is my Favorite thing about this show. Nazi horizontal collaborators and serial killers and manipulative gaslighters and I love them all. It’s wild.
@@MrMgage13 I mean based on the characters we’ve seen so far in the show, like he was much more powerful than Lestat when they first met and he’s clearly more powerful than Santiago (he also defeared Santiago’s maker) and the rest of the coven as well. There are absolutely more powerful vampires out there, including whichever powerful vampires killed Armand’s maker Marius and forcibly assigned him as head of the Paris coven, but we haven’t met any of those vampires onscreen yet
Something about those episode 5s! Last season's ep 5, the big fight scene episode, you rated it highest of the season with an 8.8; this one a 9! Dying to see if you go higher on the fantastic final three!
Yes, you will end up loving Lestat. Season 3 will DEFINITELY do it even if you don’t catch all the hidden signs in 2x7. This little “phone call” is the first time you’ve ever gotten a glimpse of the REAL Lestat without either Louis’s memory issues & denial issues coloring his portrayal, so while he’s done some terrible things, the reasoning behind them as well as his frame of mind haven’t really been seen yet. One thing it’s important to know about him is that just bc he’s very verbally expressive of his love, doesn’t mean he’s being manipulative. His love language is words of affirmation bc he never got that, so he always makes sure to express his love as often & meaningfully as he can. He’s also much less calculating than you’d think. His bad decisions are much more based in impulsivity from emotional dysregulation than anything else.
Gonna add my voice to the chorus thanking you for how much you hate Armand! Part of what I love about watching RUclips reactions to the show is seeing the wide variety of takes people have on the characters and storyline, and not enough people take him to task like this. And I say that as someone who understands and empathizes with him 😁
Lestat is the main character. Louis and Armand are just as manipulative as he is, you’ll see. Season 3 is going to be all from Lestat’s POV Armand and Daniel have a decades long relationship in the books
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This was Assad and Jacob’s first scene for s2 together and they absolutely killed it! They should’ve gotten awards ❤
as an Armand fan its really funny seeing your disdain for him xD
Assad and Jacob's performances were phenomenal tho, definitely a big part of why this is a fan favorite
Very very remarkable performances
One thing that i thought when i watched this episode is how....technically, this is the first time we ever heard Lestat. I think Sam (Lestat's actor) confirmed this because he asked the same question i did when he read the script. Why did we listen to Lestat's voice if that was only in Armands mind? The recolection was only from Louis and Daniel. But, as an audience, this is the first piece of reality we have. Points of perspectiva are everything in this show and we havent seen the real Lestat yet. Only Louis's, Claudia's, Armand's versions of him.
I love this episode so much and just adore Assad Zaman for all the different layers of Armand that he peels back on in the 70s flashback. He wears so many masks over time in San Francisco, Paris, and Dubai that I can’t help but find him ✨fascinating✨.
So glad to see your reaction to this episode! Every time you’ve talked about hating Armand I was waiting for you to see this episode. He is definitely cruel and spiteful and loves to twist the knife. When I first watched the episode and realized Armand planted Louis’ words ‘preserves his happiness’ ‘i had a hunch’ I got chills!
It's such a good nod to how textually Armand has strong powers of suggestion and use it unsparingly, but I dont think a lot of show watchers catch the extent of it 🫤
To be fair, Daniel would‘ve been drained by Louis had Armand not showed. They both saved Daniel at some point, from each other.
I think Armand said that Louis would have passed away before killing him.
I really like your reactions! I think part of the reason that Armand was so unhinged toward Daniel goes back to Louis talking to him about Lestat for 10hrs straight. Armand seems super insecure about any possible bond between Louis and Lestat. In fact, I think he contacts Lestat against Louis’ wishes to punish both Louis and Lestat. However, Armand gets punished too when he has to hear once again how much Lestat loves Louis, not Armand.
One other revelation in this episode: this is only the 2nd time we have encountered the real Lestat: here during his conversation via Armand and in S2E2 via his letter to Louis. In both cases, Lestat expresses his love and concern for Louis. He doesn’t seem angry or vindictive at all about their “recent unpleasantness.” Hmm…
trust me when i say lestat is not a one dimensional cartoon villain the guy is extremely broken and there is a redemption element to his story as there is for armand as well these are complex characters not characters to just be hated
Lestat tried to warn Louis and Claudia about the vicious European vampires but they wouldn't listen....
And people chalk it up to being manipulative rather than Lestat being scared man who underwent trauma himself from the same Paris coven
He’s a liar who withheld they had every reason not to believe him.
@@PerfectlyImperfect93you can justify it anyway you want, but Lestat was right and they should have listened to him. Both Louis and Claudia were vampires that shouldn't have ever been made. Lestat knew it, and was trying to protect both of them from other vampires who would destroy them. He also had reasons for not telling them about the history of vampirism. If you have read the books, you know what I'm talking about.
well he didn’t give them any reason to trust a word he says, so tbh I do believe that’s a failing on lestat’s part
@@PerfectlyImperfect93that’s a very simple minded way of looking at it
it's crazy how armand left louis in a room with only newspaper on the windows and no blood for days (5 if we believe Daniel). we saw how quickly louis got better after he got armands blood.
Armand is something else
Well yes that would happen after he made fun of his years in slavery
I completely support your commitment to Armand hateration.
Thankyou so much, honestly, for being able and willing to see Armand for what he is. And not being afraid or even hesitant to verbalize exactly how you're feeling about this character. Thankyou for being honest and very blunt about his sadism and cruelty, especially towards Louis... and not trying to give him some kind of pass or excuse, like so many other people do. It's very refreshing 🙌🏽
I don't think there's a "romantic" love or a connection between Louis & Daniel (I wouldn't be against it at all), but I do think it is a genuine connection and bond, more along the lines of true friendship. Than anything romantic or sexual. That's not to say that Daniel isn't attracted to Louis, because that's clear. For one, it's Louis. It's just a given. But it's clear that Louis not apposed to it either. But it does feel more platonic, than anything else. As to Armands physical and psychological torture of Daniel, plus his psychological and emotional torture of Louis. I 100% think that the reason Armand turned to Daniel and tortured him that badly, for that long, instead of say just killing him outright. Is because he wanted to really hurt Louis, but Louis was so incapacitated, both physically and mentally, that Armand couldn't actually "hurt" him anymore. So her hurt Daniel, in front of Louis, when Louis could do nothing to stop him, in a way that would make Louis feel fully responsible for it... literally to hurt Louis more. That's why the part where he's like "oh your fascinating boy", that's where he starts picking him up and slamming him on the ground. Because as hurt as Louis is, he's still worried about Daniel, still wanting to know if he's okay. He still cares about Daniel. And Armand hates it. Hates that Louis have any genuine connection to anyone or anything else. Because he does not have, and will not give that to Armand.
Louis is already too broken, so Armand breaks Danial in an attempt to break that "bond". In order to break down Louis even further, without having to touch him at all. And he succeeds. He breaks Louis down so far, that by the end he's comforting and apologizing to Armand and essentially promising to "stay", even as Armand continues to terrorize and hurt them both. And then to cement what he got out of it (Louis feeling both like he wanted to stay, but also like the entire thing was his fault. That he was the "bad" guy), he erases it. So that Louis doesn't remember all that Armand said and did, so that he doesn't remember anything about Lestat, and so that he doesn't remember that while he did originally bite and nearly kill Daniel. And Armand did stop him. It was Armand ultimately that almost kills Daniel, and Louis that saved him, from Armand. And all of it, just to keep Louis. To keep him bound up tightly in the "prison" he created for him. And it's both funny and horrific & sad... that the "prison" door is wide open, and Armand is sitting in there with him, but Armand is the only one who can freely leave.
I mean, you can hate Armand, but, boring?, unhinged torture is anything but. Anyway , as always, thanks for the amazing content 🫀🩸
I just wanted to be like Louis and say something hurtful to him lol
I can easily believe Louis was bored in that relationship, tho. Armand is unhinged and his real self is very interesting (to me, at least, he's my favourite in the books) but he also sometimes tries to mold himself into what he thinks the other person needs. And he seems to think Louis needs... a prison of empathy is a great description for what he's roleplaying in that relationship.
Daniel for sure has been crushing on Louis
Your hate of Armand is so funny to me. He's my favourite character in the show and anytime you say hate him that's one of the things I love about him 😭
Its the difference between a normal healthy functioning human being, and a broken one like you
Love your reactions, but there is one thing I think you should keep in mind: in terms of toxicity - Lestat has never spoken for himself (everything we know about Lestat comes from someone else's perspective) he has yet to appear on his own. While we see Armand's, and Louis's, toxic behavior in the moment, we only ever see, or understand Lestat's behavior from other "interested" parties.
You make a very valid point.
@@NerdGuyProductionsAnd that's why this is series: thirteen core novels, a spine off series, one involving witches, and one involving mummies. Werewolves maybe if the third series (The Talamasca) goes how I think it will.
You guys always say this but I don't see how this somehow will remove Lestats toxicity or downplay it lol. In fact if anything the fact that Louis is usually the one telling the story means that he often downplays Lestat negative traits.
I just don't get why y'all are so convinced Lestat will be vindicated. In fact later on you'll see Lestat address how own behaviors
as an Armand understander, I love how you genuinely hate him 😂😂
Armand is an innocent baby. He can do no wrong 😂
i love these reviews. your hatred for armand is truly fascinating even though he's one of my favorite characters. keep them coming😂😂❤
It might be hard to accept, but I do think Claudia never loved Louis the way he loved her. She stayed with him because she had no one else (and when she found someone more fitting, she was ready to leave Louis for good). Heck, she even left him in S1 (she came back, but I'm not sure it was out of love solely). So yeah, Armand is right, and Louis knows it, he acknowledges it and that's what makes him do what he does.
The kind of connection Claudia has is one I'm still unsure about. To me there's a lot of evidence that she does love him quite dearly just not on the same level as a companion.
Agree. Claudia loved Louis as a father/brother - an interesting thing about those relationships is that they’re not supposed to be your primary relationship. Of course, you leave your father, your brother, for your love interest. Even before Louis was turned, he went out with Lestat, he didn’t stay home with his momma and Grace, lol. But Armand took that natural degree of love and twisted it into something darker
If any of this was true then she would have simply left for Europe without him. It's ok for her to want to put herself first because she understood that they never would. She needed someone outside of Louis and that's ok. It doesn't mean that she didn't love him.
@@yanyan9356 I never said she didn't love him. She did, just not as much as Louis loved her, or not in the same way. I also think her attachment to Louis was healthier than the other way around.
Armand is my favorite character since I first read the books and I must say - I just freaking love how much you despise him, I can't stop laughing every time you're bullying him. He deserves that
honestly, i'd pick daniel/louis relationship over louis/armand any day hahaha
The characters on this show- the more awful they are, the more I love them! Your reaction to the rest of the season should be… interesting to say the least 😂 The show lulls you in to the calm before the storm, and then hits you with ten more storms after that!
I don’t hate Armand. I totally get why one would, obviously, but I think I sort of understand him in the flashback. I mean, you spend like 30-40 years (by that point), and a person just constantly gets high and goes off with other guys, is obsessed with his ex, and then calls you boring. Armand is cruel, absolutely, but Louis isn’t exactly great to him either. Tho given the whole power dynamic (maitre, arun) thing they have, I think that emotional abuse is sorta what Armand seeks…
Lestat- as horrible as he is still didn’t want both of them not to go Europe.
Your hate for Armand is something😂 It's completely understandable though. Him and Lestat are the worst (and that's why they're my favorite lol).
I don't think there's anything romantic between Louis and Daniel, but their friendship is precious❤Seeing Daniel almost cry made me emotional too. It was a beautiful genuine moment between these two.
Another episode 5 Banger
Since we know that Armand messed with their memories, can we be sure that Daniel and Louis didn’t get together?
wouldn’t put it past armand to take extra care to scrub that one out if it did happen 🤣
I love how much you hate Armand, it's great and fun to watch, I love Armand, but I love your reactions to him.
You are not the only one who has watched this show and potentially... Seen some romantic tension between Louis and Daniel... But I will let you know that it is not a canon ship. They never get together in the books and so it's very very very very very very unlikely that they will go that route in the show. 🤷♀️ You are absolutely free to ship them, though! There's a BUNCH of people in this fandom who do (I, personally, don't)...but I don't want you to get your hopes up that it's actually going to happen in the show... The writers in interviews very much seem to be sticking to the canon ships in the books, from what they have said. So their relationship will most likely remain platonic. If you do want to see people delving more deeply into that relationship though and making it romantic... there's a bunch of fanfic out there. Archiveofourown is my personal favourite site to use for fanfiction.
Regarding Armand versus Lestat... Yeah there's a lot of discussion within this fandom about the different types of abuse that these two lovers of Louis direct towards him... Lestat is much more verbal and physical... Especially in response to his fear of being abandoned... And Armand is really mainly psychological with definitely some physical as he did leave Louis in significant pain when he VERY easily could have healed him with his blood immediately... But he let him sit in the pain for a couple of days first. So while Lestat can absolutely be manipulative... Armand is 10 times more manipulative and opportunistic, absolutely.
Some vampires are naturally really good at certain "Vampire skills"... So some really excel at the Cloud gift or the Fire gift Armand excels at the Mind gift... As shown in this episode, where he's able to manipulate a humans memories, like Daniel... but he's ALSO able to manipulate Louis' memories... Armand is SIGNIFICANTLY more skilled at the Mind Gift than pretty much ANY other vampire in the book series, from what book readers have told me.
And as for is the show is going to "make you like Lestat"... That is to be determined, for sure. There absolutely are people who decidedly do NOT like Lestat... But there are some people who start off not liking him and come around to him, for sure.... It is a fact from book 2 onwards (which will be season 3 onwards) Lestat is pretty much the main character of the books. The writers of the TV show have said that they are absolutely going to keep Jacob Anderson as a co-lead in the show... So they are going to have Louis around and doing more stuff than he EVER does in the books, which is a positive for the majority of people watching this show because Jacob Anderson is absolutely amazing on this show... After the first book Louis VERY much becomes a background character that kind of just pops up every so often... He honestly doesn't do a lot... but they have fleshed out Louis' character significantly more than he is in the books and so I'm really really happy that they're going to have him do more stuff ...I like show Louis SIGNIFICANTLY more than I like book Louis!.... But yeah Lestat isn't a side character... Or he isn't solely Louis' love interest... He becomes more of a main character... So he isn't going anywhere... And if anything he's going to show up a lot MORE in the future seasons, if they get the seasons obviously. But yeah you're absolutely free to not like him... He has a LOT of unlikable qualities to him. 100%... You don't necessarily have to like a main character in a show... I mean in my opinion liking the main character...makes the show more enjoyable! but you absolutely don't have to like them to still enjoy the show. The show most likely will be going into Lestats backstory in season 3, from what people can guess... And so learning his backstory... you might like him more or at the very least you'll understand exactly WHY he is the way that he is in current day... Because there are absolutely reasons for the behaviour that he displays in the show... He's pretty heavily traumatized but that isn't unique amongst vampires. It'll be interesting to see if your opinion on Lestat changes or if it stays the same... Regardless, you won't be alone in that opinion... There are absolutely people who have read the entire book series and absolutely HATE Lestat's guts... that's a valid opinion to have, for sure lmao.
Absolutely loving your reactions to Armand! It’s so interesting to see who different people will find themselves hating or empathizing with in shows about monsters like this. Louis is by far my favourite character in the show, but also as a gay man it’s such a strange punch in the gut to realize in a throwaway line that Louis is essentially a serial killer of queer men with drug issues in 1970s Sam Francisco lol, 127 men that he’s apparently had sex with and then murdered. And yet Armand’s treatment of Daniel in the wake of Louis’ comments somehow feels worse because we’re watching in real-time as he takes out his pain about his relationship with Louis on this hungover innocent bystander.
Armand is maybe my second favourite character on this show, by far the most powerful vampire we’ve met in the series so far but simultaneously desperate to submit to someone, to not have to be in control of the coven, if his relationships, of himself, desperate to recreate the fucked up relationship he had with the man who groomed him, killed him, created him, and in the process hurting everyone around him, especially Louis
The fact that we have to wrestle with our own morality and the lines we will or won’t cross for fictional characters is my Favorite thing about this show. Nazi horizontal collaborators and serial killers and manipulative gaslighters and I love them all. It’s wild.
Interesting comment, Louis is also my favorite but I don’t think Armand is the most powerful lol
@@MrMgage13 I mean based on the characters we’ve seen so far in the show, like he was much more powerful than Lestat when they first met and he’s clearly more powerful than Santiago (he also defeared Santiago’s maker) and the rest of the coven as well. There are absolutely more powerful vampires out there, including whichever powerful vampires killed Armand’s maker Marius and forcibly assigned him as head of the Paris coven, but we haven’t met any of those vampires onscreen yet
Best episode of season 2!!!
I’m so excited for the next episodes. I cried!!
Something about those episode 5s! Last season's ep 5, the big fight scene episode, you rated it highest of the season with an 8.8; this one a 9! Dying to see if you go higher on the fantastic final three!
I’m so waiting for you to get to episode 7 and 8 lol I can’t wait to see how pissed u’ll get lol
Every episode just gets better!!!!
Yes, you will end up loving Lestat. Season 3 will DEFINITELY do it even if you don’t catch all the hidden signs in 2x7. This little “phone call” is the first time you’ve ever gotten a glimpse of the REAL Lestat without either Louis’s memory issues & denial issues coloring his portrayal, so while he’s done some terrible things, the reasoning behind them as well as his frame of mind haven’t really been seen yet.
One thing it’s important to know about him is that just bc he’s very verbally expressive of his love, doesn’t mean he’s being manipulative. His love language is words of affirmation bc he never got that, so he always makes sure to express his love as often & meaningfully as he can. He’s also much less calculating than you’d think. His bad decisions are much more based in impulsivity from emotional dysregulation than anything else.
Gonna add my voice to the chorus thanking you for how much you hate Armand! Part of what I love about watching RUclips reactions to the show is seeing the wide variety of takes people have on the characters and storyline, and not enough people take him to task like this. And I say that as someone who understands and empathizes with him 😁
your strong hatred for armand is hilarious. you're gonna have a ball with the last episode for sure!! i'm excited to see it
Lestat is the main character. Louis and Armand are just as manipulative as he is, you’ll see.
Season 3 is going to be all from Lestat’s POV
Armand and Daniel have a decades long relationship in the books
Lestat and Louis will be the MCs. And I really don't think Louis is anywhere near as manipulative lol
Listen, I love Armand so so much, but your Armand hatred had me giggling like mad