I’m amazed that your company can even create something like that “in house”. I’d love to see the progress of the control board. This looks really cool!
His pro audio terminology is not good. He's kinda pretending he knows, but he doesn't know. Console would be my go-to word (recording console). But I do know lots of engineer who say "sliders." These videos are a bit all over the place. This video implies they'll be building a console in-house, but other videos show the 32 frame Studer console they purchased. They replied to a comment I made yesterday, and they said they would be building their own console in-house. They must have the engineering know-how there to be able to do it (even though most of their expertise is probably designing for home hifi), but it's a huge undertaking. I have two friends who decided they wanted to build their own consoles, and years later, they're just finishing up. One told me if he knew what it was going to take he wouldn't have done it. It's as big and costly an undertaking and building your own house oftentimes.
@@Wizardofgosz He's had the Studer for years. They are making a custom digital console. No recording engineer I've ever worked with in the past 25 years (my 9-5 day job) have I ever heard call faders sliders.. maybe it's a European term for it?
@@drdelewded It might be regional for some people? But I was a full-time engineer for about 15 years and I would hear people occasionally call them sliders.
@@drdelewded And I don't think they're making a custom digital console. To perform any changes to DSD audio you have to convert it back to PCM because digital signal processing in the DSD environment is a gigantic computational challenge. So I'm guessing they just want to build a console with high quality preamps and some faders and possibly EQ to pass signal through it to mix.
@@Wizardofgosz He mentioned it being a digital console in another video.. I think its just gonna be a tracking desk, with no built in eq or procressing.. Just DSD converters being fed by preamps. Who knows, he sorta jumps around with what they have planned.. they switched from Sonoma to Merging while still posting newer videos talking about Sonoma.. Pyramix (merging) DAW does allow a more comprehensive use of DSD/DXD though im not exactly certain what sort of DAW Capabilites are available in Native DSD.. Kinda looking into it.. but I hate PCs so Its only a casual exploration.. When were you an engineer? It might be something left over from the 60s.. Ive never heard any pro from the 80s on up call them sliders.. Just musicians who have a little mackie or something as a PA who dont really mix professionally.
So do you need somebody to haul that old Studer board away? I'll do it for cheap. Heck, because I like all your videos I'll even do it for free! No need to thank me.😁
Hi Paul, Can you say a bit more about how this board will be used? Is it for recording or for mixing? I can see that you might want to put PS audio’s considerable abilities into a proprietary analog console for capturing audio before encoding it to DSD… alternatively, if you will be mixing in the digital realm, could this perhaps be a control surface for mixing within a DAW, or even a high resolution digital console using the dxd format in hardware? Please give us a hint! - Richard
Real nice shop, id kill just to have a CNC machine... ugh! So Neils board is likely for tracking and this new jumpoff will be for mixing/mastering I take it?
Thank you. No, we'll be building two of these beauties, one for tracking/mixing and the other strictly for mixing. They will be fully automated with wicked cool sliders that are modeled after the ones used on the old EMI boards.
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Seriously impressive! Friend of mine got a board from the 90's I helped get working. It had an old style floppy drive built into it that required a boot disk to operate.
Hah! Nice. Thanks for the smile this morning. Of course, this is going to be a surface controller so all the sonic characteristics will come from the electronics and software it controls.
Rhetorical questions: What happened to the vintage doomsday board you bought before? And how much of Octave Records' costs have to be stirred into amplifier and DAC prices? This whole project has been looking more like a fetish and a lot less like a realizable business plan.
I’m amazed that your company can even create something like that “in house”. I’d love to see the progress of the control board. This looks really cool!
Thanks, Neil. Yes we will keep the videos coming of when we add to the board. Next step will be the metal bits and that's pretty exciting.
First time ive ever heard of a console/mixer/desk called a control board..
Or faders called sliders.. ;)
Looking forward to seeing what comes of this
His pro audio terminology is not good. He's kinda pretending he knows, but he doesn't know.
Console would be my go-to word (recording console).
But I do know lots of engineer who say "sliders."
These videos are a bit all over the place. This video implies they'll be building a console in-house, but other videos show the 32 frame Studer console they purchased.
They replied to a comment I made yesterday, and they said they would be building their own console in-house.
They must have the engineering know-how there to be able to do it (even though most of their expertise is probably designing for home hifi), but it's a huge undertaking. I have two friends who decided they wanted to build their own consoles, and years later, they're just finishing up. One told me if he knew what it was going to take he wouldn't have done it. It's as big and costly an undertaking and building your own house oftentimes.
@@Wizardofgosz
He's had the Studer for years. They are making a custom digital console.
No recording engineer I've ever worked with in the past 25 years (my 9-5 day job) have I ever heard call faders sliders.. maybe it's a European term for it?
@@drdelewded It might be regional for some people? But I was a full-time engineer for about 15 years and I would hear people occasionally call them sliders.
@@drdelewded And I don't think they're making a custom digital console. To perform any changes to DSD audio you have to convert it back to PCM because digital signal processing in the DSD environment is a gigantic computational challenge. So I'm guessing they just want to build a console with high quality preamps and some faders and possibly EQ to pass signal through it to mix.
@@Wizardofgosz He mentioned it being a digital console in another video.. I think its just gonna be a tracking desk, with no built in eq or procressing.. Just DSD converters being fed by preamps. Who knows, he sorta jumps around with what they have planned.. they switched from Sonoma to Merging while still posting newer videos talking about Sonoma.. Pyramix (merging) DAW does allow a more comprehensive use of DSD/DXD though im not exactly certain what sort of DAW Capabilites are available in Native DSD.. Kinda looking into it.. but I hate PCs so Its only a casual exploration..
When were you an engineer? It might be something left over from the 60s.. Ive never heard any pro from the 80s on up call them sliders.. Just musicians who have a little mackie or something as a PA who dont really mix professionally.
So do you need somebody to haul that old Studer board away?
I'll do it for cheap.
Heck, because I like all your videos I'll even do it for free!
No need to thank me.😁
Hah! I will have to dig up the video where we moved that beast in the first place. Maybe for tomorrow. Stay tuned.
Hi Paul,
Can you say a bit more about how this board will be used? Is it for recording or for mixing? I can see that you might want to put PS audio’s considerable abilities into a proprietary analog console for capturing audio before encoding it to DSD… alternatively, if you will be mixing in the digital realm, could this perhaps be a control surface for mixing within a DAW, or even a high resolution digital console using the dxd format in hardware? Please give us a hint!
- Richard
Hi Richard. Yes, it will become a control surface for both recording and for mixing on the Pyramix DSD system. I will have more info as we move along.
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Thank you Paul - I look forward to it.
Wait a minute, is that Elcom profiles?
🤗😎😍😍😍
Real nice shop, id kill just to have a CNC machine... ugh! So Neils board is likely for tracking and this new jumpoff will be for mixing/mastering I take it?
Thank you. No, we'll be building two of these beauties, one for tracking/mixing and the other strictly for mixing. They will be fully automated with wicked cool sliders that are modeled after the ones used on the old EMI boards.
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Seriously impressive! Friend of mine got a board from the 90's I helped get working. It had an old style floppy drive built into it that required a boot disk to operate.
@@AllboroLCD Thanks! Yes, this is exciting and I can't wait to show you the next steps.
How do you want to get warm sounds out of such a cool controlboard?
Hah! Nice. Thanks for the smile this morning. Of course, this is going to be a surface controller so all the sonic characteristics will come from the electronics and software it controls.
Rhetorical questions: What happened to the vintage doomsday board you bought before? And how much of Octave Records' costs have to be stirred into amplifier and DAC prices?
This whole project has been looking more like a fetish and a lot less like a realizable business plan.
Just enjoy in everything Paul is giving to us to experience. There is no need for envy.
@@zoranzanze9161 Bad guess. Envy must be endemic for you. It is not for me.