I look forward to seeing more of Coleman on channels like this. His work is too honest, reasonable and thought-provoking to be ignored. It's fantastic to see someone doing so much so early in their career.
Great to see Coleman getting the air time he deserves. I pay attention to him not because he's a Black intellectual, but because he's simply one of the smartest people (of any skin color) on RUclips.
Wrong. He's nothing more than a resknined Thomas Sowell. Affirmative Action benefits white women more than any other demographic, but that's not beneficial to him so he's not going to address it.
Mister Man Is comparing him to Thomas Sowell supposed to be some sort of an insult? Thomas Sowell is very intelligent and very successful and I think the man in the video would take that as a compliment.
@@luvitluvitbaby oh I'm just saying the quiet part out loud, reading these comments it's clear that people are also thinking he's one of the good ones. I'm just the only one with the testicular fortitude to say it out loud.
@@msi8311 I'm sure it's not that deep. This guy is clearly just as awful as the liberals he's claims to hate in that if someone doesn't 100% agree with them they're wrong.
This is a huge problem. People actually think that these programs should constantly be evolving. No, these programs need an expiration date. Everything should have an expiration date, and when it come time to vote or renew it must be reviewed primarily on the original circumstances for which they were intended.
Ernest Perkins, you are correct---everything should have an expiration date. I would say Affirmative Action should end the same day White Supremacy ends. We won't need it if White Supremacy goes away.
@@justmyopinion9883 white supremacy doesn’t exist. It’s our human condition, our group mentality that tells us that our group is the superior one. This certainly goes back to before we turned Sapiens. Why do you think we killed the Neanderthals and all of our other cousins. Ex: in India, where I’ve lived, if you’re a bit darker, you’re a nobody. They practice the insidious, the abhorrent, Less-Dark Supremacy. Those less dark people are evil, right?
Actually, supreme court justice Sandra Day O Connor put an expiration date of 25 years after the 2003 decision to uphold a nuanced, wholistic ptactice of AA. So, year 2028.
Coleman Hughes' definition for affirmative action (from 1:57) is correct and honest: "Affirmative action is a euphemism for racial preferences, for taking race into account in the confluence of factors that you use to decide whether somebody gets into a school or gets a certain job." Then CBS juxtaposes the Merriam Webster definition, which is a roundabout definition that uses the word "affirmative action" within the definition for "affirmative action." Like he says, we use euphemisms for things, because we feel uncomfortable talking about them honestly and plainly. We feel uncomfortable, because we have an intuitive feeling that they are wrong in some way. (Also, the lady talks too much for an interviewer.)
@@mariussielcken if that was the case they should go back to afrlca where it all started. no one would.wanna go there cause they would have the equality they want priviledhe
Coleman straight up honest. He did not need the racial booster-seat of affirmative action. “Awkwardness” talking about it by administrators/lawyers = they know full well it is racial discrimination but do the verbal dance to deny it.
It's not leveling the playing field. You do not have a Black person, a White person, an Asian person, and a Hispanic person all spending the same amount of time studying. Someone might be studying 4 hours a day while another maybe studying 2 hours a day. They don't spend the same amount of effort. You don't level the playing field by giving people who spend less time studying more bonus points. Some say it's to right the wrong of previous generations. But it's not. Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, but it's South Asian's children and East Asian's children that are paying the price.
The Black students who are admitted to these programs are ALREADY QUALIFIED thus they wouldn't be dropping out due to coursework rigor. 🙄 There are a whole host of other challenges that students of color can face including, lack of financial support, lack of familial support, lack of resources, etc.
The question that needs to be addressed is, why is there still racial disparity in jobs and education and how can it be corrected?. I wish Coleman would look at the research of Dr. Tommy Curry who is a scholar of philosophy.
@3:15 you can almost hear the moment in which the host says "it sounds like a great idea" while simultaneously coming to the realization of how actually messed up the whole idea of affirmative action is.
@@Reverb.X it should be entirely based on income and/ or zip code. A poor white kid attending some garbage inner city public school is at just as much a disadvantage as his black classmate. Maybe 60 years ago it would make sense, but in 2021 the color of a prospective students skin should not be a factor.
@@bigblack9819 You need to add wealth in there as well. You can have two households with the exact same income but the one with more accumulated wealth from past income or inheritances will be wealthier and that should be factored in.
It's doublethink. "This is obviously wrong, racist and discriminatory, but it benefits me and my kind". People will always rationalise what benefits them.
Affirmative action needs to be reformed to include all races and genders the same. It should identify people who's parents were citizens of that country that did not have college opportunity nor obtained sufficient wealth to afford college. It absolutely should never enter into the public workplace. It has done more damage to many societies working class. We have lost our edge in nearly all industries in the USA due to such policies. It has allowed the explosion of gains and prosperity in India, China, and Mexico. A lot of offshoring of skilled professional work and over bloated overhead useless management staff in USA. It's running down S. Africa too.
Affirmative action is outdated concept. If you want to be fair, we need to invest in educational program is poor communities. There are poor white and Asian folks as well who does not have access to resources. There are also wealthy black and Hispanic families who has access to resources. Using race alone is not right.
now we should do the right thing? that really corrects the past injustices your argument rings hollow since I denied your family for decades today I have a change of heart that makes everything alright. Those who benefited from racism now feel that fairness makes those who suffered feel better. If the shoe was on the other foot I would you feel? A wrong is still wrong.
Here is a negative aspect of affirmative action. It skims off the top. So... instead of elevating the most poor or the most disadvantaged people in a community, it's actually just plucking a few more of the bright, talented people out of a disadvantaged community, and implanting them into somewhere nicer. So... poor communities simply lose a few more of their role-models, their leaders, and their pillars who would benefit their communities. What is a better solution than affirmative action? Programs that focus on the most underperforming kids. Not the smart black kids who want to get into Harvard instead of a standard College. Raise the whole community up by lifting it from the bottom, and not just robbing it of it's strongest members.
Where is affirmative action in nfl or nba? Certain race is good with certain thing and nothing wrong with it! Let’s people compete and that’s what make America great.
First, we should consider the thousands of EEOC cases blocked by local states with the assistance of local law firms and possibly the attorney general's office. Then we should look at the "other Affirmative Action. The "Good Old Boy" systems allowed growth into government-founded agencies using Minority tax dollars. We must also look at those outside countries that attack us with Cyber Crimes, Super Bills, and Counterfit products that infringe on American copyright law and business revenues. The choices and the way are clear.
I think AA is a good policy. We dont talk about the number of people who arent interviewed/hired solely based on their name sounding too "ethnic". When it comes to college admissions, people mistakenly believe all we do is send a photo of ourselves and we get automatic admission. WRONG! I had a 4.0 GPA, great extracorriculars, and test scores yet still didnt get into Marquette or Stanford and settled for a D3 school. There is this sense of entitlement that exists for some people in this country and I feel they dont understand that life isnt solely about getting what you want.
Why is affirmative action not described as corrective action? It's correcting for past mass injustices, and most importantly, the effects those mass injustices had.
I’m sorry do or don’t colleges have gpa and test score minimums that are REQUIRED for you to get in. If he has the scores, why would it be a question of whether he’s black asian or white, isn’t that the whole point of affirmative action? People are confused.
@@robertmadison1205 So You’re saying that if a non-white applicant does not have all the test score minimum’s that are needed, but is non-white, that because of their non-whiteness, in addition to them may be having the GPA, but not the test scores they would get in to the college?
@@robertmadison1205 because that sounds like nonsense to me. And also sounds like it has never happened even with affirmative action. Because guess what I’ve applied to some colleges knowing full well I didn’t have the test scores, and guess what being black did not get me in.
@@guessan154 And by the way, you cannot just say non-white, because Asians, esp Korean, Chinese, Japanese and Indians tend to get the highest scores, so, though quotas are illegal, those ethnicities likely count against them. Universities look at "the whole package" to make decisions.
Im not sure where coleman is coming from. Selective colleges and universities are intrinsically discriminatory - i.e., thats what makes them selective in the first place. Race, as warranted by the history of adverse "affirmative" actions toward descendants of slavery specifically, is one of the criterion used to determine admission because that applicant pool would inevitably be smaller in comparison to whites. With limited spaces for admission to the student body, without affirmative action, despite the merit of a black student, the chances of admission are slimmer because we are outnumbered by a larger and richer number of meritocratically comparable white applicants. Without affirmative action, even eligible black students will fall through the cracks. We actually do have to proactively seek out high achieving black students, otherwise, with no black students being admitted, we are substantiating a myth that black students cannot rise the occasion - a classic racial trope. So long as black students, particularly descendants of slavery, are admitted on as stringent a standard as any other applicant, I am okay with it. The sad presumption that people make is that a black student is "only" admitted on the bases of their race. The truth is they are admitted on the bases of merit, but race is a point because without that point they are indistinguishable from their white counterparts; and by virtue of being part of the larger group, white applicants of comparable merit are likely to overwhelm the probability of admitting comparable black students.
I went to law school on affirmative action and I have been an attorney for 30 years. Thank you to Northeastern University School of Law for taking a chance on me. Thank you to the US Army for developing me professionally and seeing me through college. I’m from Washington Heights, NY and I’m a first generation American who struggled to speak proper English. Thank you to the New York City Public School System for never giving up on me. I will never forget you, but I need to speak more boldly to others of my story.
02:49 that poll at 02:49 is the most stupid thing I've seen in my life. First for a simple thing, races don't exist and they even went on tilting it "race AND ethnicity" 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Coleman Hughes is clearly a beneficiary of Affirmative Action, no one could be that young and that against social justice and equity and also be intelligent.
There are hard working Black Asian, white, male and female will loss their equal and hard earned chance to some unqualified black Asian white male and female to a quote of affirmative action so the school looks better to the government. The real equality is no matter race or gender the best and most qualified gets the job !
So let's see years of discrimination and now color shouldn't matter when will the goal post stop being moved? Diversity measure can be harmful when test score are the deciding factors, those who score well may not be the best candidate for the job but because of Diversity this candidate harmed how many?
Yep. It shouldn't. Those in the past who discriminated were wrong to do so. And any discrimination now, no matter the stated intent, also will be wrong.
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@@diranshouse7061 You are OUT OF YOUR MIND! People are today, who say the have no responsibility in this situation, while simultaneously spending THE MONEY and enjoying THE PRIVILEGE, that has been inherited to them and passed down for generations! Get outta here with crap!
You might not know, but at least your intelligence shows that there is no doubt that you belonged there. Makes Columbia look good! They actually admit based on merit.
What a morally corrupt person you have to be to say I know I got in because of affirmative action and I thought that was ok. Which means, I know other people were discriminated against in my favor and that's great. 🤮
Unfortunately, that's not how she sees it. She sees it as recompense for having been historically in discriminated against. In her worldview whoever lost out so she could get in, can thank their Great Grandparent for that misfortune.
America is supposed to be a land where we lift up all people. But, instead, we are a country where money is power, and only the powerful rule. You're more likely to win the lottery and get a fortune, than to work hard your whole life and earn a fortune.
Depends what a fortune is to you. I know many immigrants (including my own mother and her siblings) who came to the US, got an education, got a job, and are doing well enough. They're not millionaires but they're stable homeowners with kids and able to vacation.
@@pheeel17 I know many who did that got a good job saved money, invest in real estate and small side businesses and are now millionaires. It's so common that it's sad to see so many not see the path.
He's not only a descendant of African slaves in America, he can trace his ancestry directly. I knew his Mom in the South Bronx. She and Coleman's Father would both laugh right in your stupid face.
Simple anti-discrimination law could've solved that. No need for affirmative action. In the UK, they never had affirmative action for women, for example. But the number of women increased exactly the same as the US.
@@garywood97 There are some forms of positive discrimination for women in the UK, sadly. Look up All Women Shortlists in the Labour party. Which mandate 50% of MP/candidates are women and that female MPs can only be replaced by female MPs or minorities. It was sued against and the policy was rightly deemed illegal. So Labour just passed legislation to make it legal. We're going down the same road as the US.
Affirmative action doesn't have to have any exclusive aspect to it, it can be merely inclusive. There are qualified black people we just have to find them and add them not at the expense of anyone else and indeed to rectify past exclusion. Then it will be productive.
@@couldbe8348 That may be the case. AA doesn't have to be based on limiting anyone else just adding black folks they have excluded in the past. Many places have to have outreach to reach qualified blacks and other rminorities.
@@ishaq24722 Perhaps I’m missing something, but what does that mean “reach out” As if these people are in caves hundreds of miles away we need to find them. Put another way, big banks large corporations are looking for the brightest and most creative people. They don’t discriminate-just want earnings so why even need in an affirmative action program
@@ishaq24722 I work in the corporate world so, no, I don’t think there’s much I haven’t seen or read about. Profit profit profit is the end all. I’m not sure why affirmative action is needed. Do you?
Ok so now I’m seeing that maybe affirmative action is a problem for colleges in that it is in no way a solution to the problem. However it does, for the time help nonwhite people get more deserved access to education. The problem is that it doesn’t also help poor whites.
Any black kid getting AA into the Ivy League would have no problem getting into most other colleges on their own merits. They would still have access to a quality education that they truly "deserved". The large majority of black AA recipients at elite colleges come from middle class and above households. People like Obama's kids are getting the AA, not some kid in a housing project in Baltimore.
@@janso7979 How do you know this? I thought the whole point of affirmative action was to allow for high achieving lower income students to get access to education. And why put deserved in quotations? Do you have a problem with everyone, or nonwhite people getting education, that is DESERVED? Or do you feel that it’s not deserved, because there is a program that is supposed to be helping them? And why would Obama‘s kids need affirmative action? Like what is it that you’re even saying? What point are you trying to make? And the point is to have DESERVED access to all colleges, including Ivy leagues. More importantly it’s about having real access to the colleges that you want to go to.
@@janso7979 and your comment is also so crazy because you say that they could get into other colleges based on their merits, which includes their grades and academic prowess, but at the same time say that affirmative action is how they get into the ivies. Like…don’t you see how that is a problem? Doesn’t it seem odd that the ivys are blocking black kids that have the merit to get into colleges????? Hello
@@guessan154 I know about it because I've read about it. Apparently, you haven't. I also went to an elite college myself, although it wasn't Ivy League. The black girl in my Freshman dorm was the daughter of a Federal judge, and I doubt that any of the other black students at the school came from the bottom 50% in family income. What you thought was the point of AA, and how AA is actually administered in the real world don't line up. I'd be much less against AA if it were implemented as you imagine. The black students at the Ivy League aren't coming from impoverished backgrounds, except in rare instances. Many AA slots for black students even end up going to rich foreigners with zero ties to any historical American racial discrimination. I don't have a problem with anybody, white, black, or green, getting access to an education they deserve. I have a problem with people being admitted to schools and hired for jobs with lower qualifications based on their skin color. You're absolutely right that Obama's kids shouldn't need AA. It goes to show how messed up our system is that despite how privileged his kids are, they still would qualify for AA.
@@guessan154 Do you realize that different schools have different standards of admission? There are tens of thousands of kids of all races who meet all the standards to attend a good school like the University of Michigan who however don't meet Harvard's standards of admission. Should everybodywith average grades and SAT scores be admitted to Harvard? If a white kid is good enough to play basketball for his local junior college does that mean he should therefore be recruited to play for Duke?
He is Black. His father is a Black man. Mother is Puerto Rican. I'd you are claiming only folks with 2 Black American parents are black, then boy there a lots of black folks who don't know they ain't black. I'm sure some are even relatives of yours.
@@diranshouse7061 The part of your statement you let out with ,,, if ,, let alone claim. But that is your like of understanding of my statement. But let me help you. The simple term speaking of black or not, which seems to be your position is speaking only of melanin. Which obviously he has. However my statement spoke of Black Americans , which is not a statement or whether or not anyone has melanin let alone or black or not. Simply one specific group that have a 200 and something year history in this country. And anchored in that history. People that immigrate here from other countries and are also black. And have gained citizenship are also considered black American. Which is only your turn previously used by those black Americans or African Americans, that have a 200-year history in this country and have lived the experience that this guy opposes, it's not a question of his melanin or whether he's black or not. Just not black American. So he doesn't get to speak for me,
Your only hope and salvation from this madness is Jesus Christ. You`re a sinner, Jesus was crucified for your sins on the cross so you could live forever with him. He provided a way out. Repent or face his judgement and wrath for the time is at hand, these are the end times.
Always hurts me to see individuals claim via the internet that someone who would identify as black as "hardly black". As if race can be given and take away with typed words. Always shocking for me.
@@prollyRB - I have always admired the nuances in King’s civil rights marches. The men then didn’t carry signs saying, “I am a black man”. They carried signs saying, “I am a man”. That is the difference between the identity-politics movements of yesteryear and today. Noble movements seek to create integration. Ignoble movements seek a type of segregation. Martin Luther King, Jr’s movement was noble.
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about. Affirmative Action primary goal is to diversify campus. It not just about race, it includes religion, nationally, sex and creed
Your racist projection is typical of leftists. Who the feck are you to decide what is good for his "own people"? You're clearly not a deep thinker like Coleman is.
What is "privilege" I shudder at a benign word which has been weaponised. Is LeBron James priviliged ? Are Black athletes making insane money privileged because they were born into a particular athletic body ? Are beautiful people privileged ? Will you blame Mr James for his privilege ? Or that famous tennis player Willams ?
I don’t know why you’re bringing race into this when Hughes didn’t use privilege in that context. His point he believes that affirmative action as we know it isn’t worth having, however he believes that there should be something in place to allow the less privileged (of any race or in general) opportunity.
@@matthew3977 The entire discussion is about "race" and "privilege" in case you missed the core . People are getting into university because of the colour of their skin. What was not talked about is "culture". many Urban US Blacks have no "culture of education" or "book culture". That is why immigrants outpace the US born Blacks. Because their parents understand that reading and getting a decent grade matters. Professor John McWhorter just published this critique on substack (April 23) called "NO MORE TESTS: WE SHOULD MEASURE BLACK KIDS ON THEIR "DESIRE TO KNOW." Loury and McWhorter have in the past discussed the problem of the anti education mindset in parts of the Black Community.
Dumb comparison. Athletics isn’t nearly as subjective as other areas of society. If you can run fast, jump high, etc. you’ll get a spot on the team. Didn’t work like that initially before in many college admission offices or hiring offices in the business world which is why affirmative action was implemented in the first place.
@@aoht06 and the Biden Administration just killed the charge of anti Asian Racism when getting into universities. This is called marxism. when people get stuff because they have the-right book in hand or the perfect skin tone.
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I look forward to seeing more of Coleman on channels like this. His work is too honest, reasonable and thought-provoking to be ignored. It's fantastic to see someone doing so much so early in their career.
Great to see Coleman getting the air time he deserves. I pay attention to him not because he's a Black intellectual, but because he's simply one of the smartest people (of any skin color) on RUclips.
Wrong. He's nothing more than a resknined Thomas Sowell. Affirmative Action benefits white women more than any other demographic, but that's not beneficial to him so he's not going to address it.
Mister Man Is comparing him to Thomas Sowell supposed to be some sort of an insult? Thomas Sowell is very intelligent and very successful and I think the man in the video would take that as a compliment.
@@kutie216 You think? Could have fooled me. Sounds more like you assume.
@@misterman2830 He did address it in this very interview, you knucklehead.
@@misterman2830 Hugh? He did address it. Did you watch it?
Coleman Hughes 🙏🏼
He's one of the good ones
@@samueltexeira2734 He’s one of the good ones??? Please elaborate.
@@luvitluvitbaby I can only assume he was trolling
@@luvitluvitbaby oh I'm just saying the quiet part out loud, reading these comments it's clear that people are also thinking he's one of the good ones. I'm just the only one with the testicular fortitude to say it out loud.
@@samueltexeira2734 That kind of implies that most of “them” are bad tho. Is that what you think?
They never wanted to hear from Thomas Sowell but Coleman is gentler on them I guess
Coleman is trash as well
@@brenandemossita1000 he's brilliant
@Brenande Mossita Any reason?
@@msi8311 I'm sure it's not that deep. This guy is clearly just as awful as the liberals he's claims to hate in that if someone doesn't 100% agree with them they're wrong.
@@brenandemossita1000 Oh, is Coleman getting in your way of free handouts and your fake narratives? Nah, it's more because you're a racist.
Glad I came across Coleman Hughes I absolutely love his thought process..
He just feels like people don't respect his accomplisment because of affirmatime action.
Coleman Hughes is extremely impressive! I hope he is given more opportunities to speak and enlighten people.
This is a huge problem. People actually think that these programs should constantly be evolving. No, these programs need an expiration date. Everything should have an expiration date, and when it come time to vote or renew it must be reviewed primarily on the original circumstances for which they were intended.
Ernest Perkins, you are correct---everything should have an expiration date. I would say Affirmative Action should end the same day White Supremacy ends. We won't need it if White Supremacy goes away.
@ The surefire way to prove you are losing a debate is to use profanity or make personal attacks. That's why I never do those 2 things.
@@justmyopinion9883 white supremacy doesn’t exist. It’s our human condition, our group mentality that tells us that our group is the superior one. This certainly goes back to before we turned Sapiens. Why do you think we killed the Neanderthals and all of our other cousins. Ex: in India, where I’ve lived, if you’re a bit darker, you’re a nobody. They practice the insidious, the abhorrent, Less-Dark Supremacy. Those less dark people are evil, right?
Actually, supreme court justice Sandra Day O Connor put an expiration date of 25 years after the 2003 decision to uphold a nuanced, wholistic ptactice of AA. So, year 2028.
@@justmyopinion9883 just end racism /white supremacy and replace this demonic system with a system of justice! Yes you are correct!
Coleman Hughes' definition for affirmative action (from 1:57) is correct and honest:
"Affirmative action is a euphemism for racial preferences, for taking race into account in the confluence of factors that you use to decide whether somebody gets into a school or gets a certain job."
Then CBS juxtaposes the Merriam Webster definition, which is a roundabout definition that uses the word "affirmative action" within the definition for "affirmative action."
Like he says, we use euphemisms for things, because we feel uncomfortable talking about them honestly and plainly. We feel uncomfortable, because we have an intuitive feeling that they are wrong in some way.
(Also, the lady talks too much for an interviewer.)
Love what he's saying
“Cosmetic Diversity”. Coleman, you are a genius w words!! Forever fan!
There’s no such thing as reverse discrimination. You either discriminate or you don’t.
Reverse discrimination is revenge discrimination.
@@mariussielcken if that was the case they should go back to afrlca where it all started. no one would.wanna go there cause they would have the equality they want priviledhe
I have to commend CBS for having Coleman on. This is what news should be. Well articulated and reasoned diversity in argument.
Forced diversity is a bad thing.
🌞 Hughes 2024 🇺🇸 🗽 🇺🇸
He wont be old enough. He won't be the required minimum age of 35 until the 2036 election.
This segment is eye opening.
When she interviews Kendi, will she point out that his opinion is only one of many? I predict not.
Trust me I had my red pill moment 10 years ago...never looked back.
Coleman straight up honest. He did not need the racial booster-seat of affirmative action.
“Awkwardness” talking about it by administrators/lawyers = they know full well it is racial discrimination but do the verbal dance to deny it.
It's not leveling the playing field. You do not have a Black person, a White person, an Asian person, and a Hispanic person all spending the same amount of time studying. Someone might be studying 4 hours a day while another maybe studying 2 hours a day. They don't spend the same amount of effort. You don't level the playing field by giving people who spend less time studying more bonus points.
Some say it's to right the wrong of previous generations. But it's not. Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, but it's South Asian's children and East Asian's children that are paying the price.
No mention of the high black dropout rate because of too demanding placements.
Yep, and blacks changing to less rigorous academic programs in those schools.
The Black students who are admitted to these programs are ALREADY QUALIFIED thus they wouldn't be dropping out due to coursework rigor. 🙄 There are a whole host of other challenges that students of color can face including, lack of financial support, lack of familial support, lack of resources, etc.
Over 100 HBCU's and they're still crying Victimhood 😂
I love this guy…appreciate honesty. Don’t get much of that anymore. It probably means he was smart enough to get into Columbia.😊
Coleman's words on this topic equate to minimalism... nothing... We already knew this!!!
Very cool point, those who benefit from the affirmative actions aren’t those on food stamps
Kendi clearly benefited from AA.
They did my man dirty with the thumbnail
Smart man.
The question that needs to be addressed is, why is there still racial disparity in jobs and education and how can it be corrected?. I wish Coleman would look at the research of Dr. Tommy Curry who is a scholar of philosophy.
One of many opinions.... right
@3:15 you can almost hear the moment in which the host says "it sounds like a great idea" while simultaneously coming to the realization of how actually messed up the whole idea of affirmative action is.
@@Reverb.X it should be entirely based on income and/ or zip code. A poor white kid attending some garbage inner city public school is at just as much a disadvantage as his black classmate. Maybe 60 years ago it would make sense, but in 2021 the color of a prospective students skin should not be a factor.
@@Reverb.X exactly
@@bigblack9819 You need to add wealth in there as well. You can have two households with the exact same income but the one with more accumulated wealth from past income or inheritances will be wealthier and that should be factored in.
It's doublethink. "This is obviously wrong, racist and discriminatory, but it benefits me and my kind". People will always rationalise what benefits them.
CBS, although you didn't listen to your guest at all, please invite him again, your audience might listen :) Thanks for having him.
Love seeing Coleman on here!
Affirmative action needs to be reformed to include all races and genders the same. It should identify people who's parents were citizens of that country that did not have college opportunity nor obtained sufficient wealth to afford college. It absolutely should never enter into the public workplace. It has done more damage to many societies working class. We have lost our edge in nearly all industries in the USA due to such policies. It has allowed the explosion of gains and prosperity in India, China, and Mexico. A lot of offshoring of skilled professional work and over bloated overhead useless management staff in USA. It's running down S. Africa too.
No it doesn't get over it
3.85 million subscribers and the engagement/views on this video are microscopic.
Nah. Not challenged. Not challenge. Not challege. /
The only dilemma is what to do about the stupidity of the woke ..
Go Coleman!! I feel kinda bad for him though, like being on this woke "news" network is beneath a man of his intelligence.
Affirmative action is outdated concept. If you want to be fair, we need to invest in educational program is poor communities. There are poor white and Asian folks as well who does not have access to resources. There are also wealthy black and Hispanic families who has access to resources. Using race alone is not right.
now we should do the right thing? that really corrects the past injustices your argument rings hollow since I denied your family for decades today I have a change of heart that makes everything alright. Those who benefited from racism now feel that fairness makes those who suffered feel better. If the shoe was on the other foot I would you feel? A wrong is still wrong.
Coleman Hughes is one of the good ones!
Attention CBS video editors. Take it from a university instructor: Your audience cannot listen to one thing and read a different thing simultaneously.
That's the point. They were purposely trying to disorient their viewers.
Here is a negative aspect of affirmative action. It skims off the top.
So... instead of elevating the most poor or the most disadvantaged people in a community, it's actually just plucking a few more of the bright, talented people out of a disadvantaged community, and implanting them into somewhere nicer. So... poor communities simply lose a few more of their role-models, their leaders, and their pillars who would benefit their communities.
What is a better solution than affirmative action? Programs that focus on the most underperforming kids. Not the smart black kids who want to get into Harvard instead of a standard College. Raise the whole community up by lifting it from the bottom, and not just robbing it of it's strongest members.
Really good questions
Where is affirmative action in nfl or nba? Certain race is good with certain thing and nothing wrong with it! Let’s people compete and that’s what make America great.
First, we should consider the thousands of EEOC cases blocked by local states with the assistance of local law firms and possibly the attorney general's office. Then we should look at the "other Affirmative Action. The "Good Old Boy" systems allowed growth into government-founded agencies using Minority tax dollars. We must also look at those outside countries that attack us with Cyber Crimes, Super Bills, and Counterfit products that infringe on American copyright law and business revenues. The choices and the way are clear.
If one is poor, they aren't getting into college unless they take out loans end up in debt
If the degree is worth it the job it leads to pays off debt.
I think AA is a good policy. We dont talk about the number of people who arent interviewed/hired solely based on their name sounding too "ethnic". When it comes to college admissions, people mistakenly believe all we do is send a photo of ourselves and we get automatic admission. WRONG! I had a 4.0 GPA, great extracorriculars, and test scores yet still didnt get into Marquette or Stanford and settled for a D3 school. There is this sense of entitlement that exists for some people in this country and I feel they dont understand that life isnt solely about getting what you want.
Why is affirmative action not described as corrective action? It's correcting for past mass injustices, and most importantly, the effects those mass injustices had.
So you getting a seat instead of an Asian is better,huh.
All races have had injustices and effects from them. Blacks haven't cornered the market on injustice like Whoopi seems to think.
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@@stephenmarket7237 Asian need to get there test scores up like blk folks and it's actually white women who are getting those seats not many "blk ppl"
Commit more injustices to right for past injustices? You’re so crazy man 😂
Why you all judge the people by the color of their skin, not by the content of their character... and calling it an affirmative action? So repulsive.
At the very least let Asians be treated as equal to Whites.
Diversity based on race isn't beneficial. Diversity of approach to problem solving, skills..etc are beneficial.
What’s up with the racial jobless rate graphic the network just threw up on the screen..?
I’m sorry do or don’t colleges have gpa and test score minimums that are REQUIRED for you to get in. If he has the scores, why would it be a question of whether he’s black asian or white, isn’t that the whole point of affirmative action? People are confused.
No, thats not the point. The point is to factor in race as a positive, advantage for job or education applicants.
@@robertmadison1205 So You’re saying that if a non-white applicant does not have all the test score minimum’s that are needed, but is non-white, that because of their non-whiteness, in addition to them may be having the GPA, but not the test scores they would get in to the college?
@@robertmadison1205 because that sounds like nonsense to me. And also sounds like it has never happened even with affirmative action. Because guess what I’ve applied to some colleges knowing full well I didn’t have the test scores, and guess what being black did not get me in.
@@guessan154 Well, it is not a guarantee that you will get in, it just confers an advantage for some schools that desire a diverse group of freshmen.
@@guessan154 And by the way, you cannot just say non-white, because Asians, esp Korean, Chinese, Japanese and Indians tend to get the highest scores, so, though quotas are illegal, those ethnicities likely count against them. Universities look at "the whole package" to make decisions.
Im not sure where coleman is coming from. Selective colleges and universities are intrinsically discriminatory - i.e., thats what makes them selective in the first place. Race, as warranted by the history of adverse "affirmative" actions toward descendants of slavery specifically, is one of the criterion used to determine admission because that applicant pool would inevitably be smaller in comparison to whites. With limited spaces for admission to the student body, without affirmative action, despite the merit of a black student, the chances of admission are slimmer because we are outnumbered by a larger and richer number of meritocratically comparable white applicants. Without affirmative action, even eligible black students will fall through the cracks. We actually do have to proactively seek out high achieving black students, otherwise, with no black students being admitted, we are substantiating a myth that black students cannot rise the occasion - a classic racial trope. So long as black students, particularly descendants of slavery, are admitted on as stringent a standard as any other applicant, I am okay with it. The sad presumption that people make is that a black student is "only" admitted on the bases of their race. The truth is they are admitted on the bases of merit, but race is a point because without that point they are indistinguishable from their white counterparts; and by virtue of being part of the larger group, white applicants of comparable merit are likely to overwhelm the probability of admitting comparable black students.
I went to law school on affirmative action and I have been an attorney for 30 years. Thank you to Northeastern University School of Law for taking a chance on me. Thank you to the US Army for developing me professionally and seeing me through college. I’m from Washington Heights, NY and I’m a first generation American who struggled to speak proper English. Thank you to the New York City Public School System for never giving up on me. I will never forget you, but I need to speak more boldly to others of my story.
🤎🤎🤎 A LOT of leaders went to school on affirmative action including Michelle Obama, Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor, Ketanji Brown, etc.
A privileged kid
Two parent households and Family Values helps.
02:49 that poll at 02:49 is the most stupid thing I've seen in my life.
First for a simple thing, races don't exist and they even went on tilting it "race AND ethnicity" 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Coleman Hughes is clearly a beneficiary of Affirmative Action, no one could be that young and that against social justice and equity and also be intelligent.
Hmmm... Don't know if this is meant to be sarcastic.
I just saw him pole dancing in his fruit of da looms on a subway train for his self promo... good job CBS🙄
There are hard working Black Asian, white, male and female will loss their equal and hard earned chance to some unqualified black Asian white male and female to a quote of affirmative action so the school looks better to the government. The real equality is no matter race or gender the best and most qualified gets the job !
So let's see years of discrimination and now color shouldn't matter when will the goal post stop being moved? Diversity measure can be harmful when test score are the deciding factors, those who score well may not be the best candidate for the job but because of Diversity this candidate harmed how many?
Yep. It shouldn't. Those in the past who discriminated were wrong to do so. And any discrimination now, no matter the stated intent, also will be wrong.
@@diranshouse7061 You are OUT OF YOUR MIND! People are today, who say the have no responsibility in this situation, while simultaneously spending THE MONEY and enjoying THE PRIVILEGE, that has been inherited to them and passed down for generations! Get outta here with crap!
You don't combat racism with racism. You combat racism with equality. Super simple.
You might not know, but at least your intelligence shows that there is no doubt that you belonged there. Makes Columbia look good! They actually admit based on merit.
What a morally corrupt person you have to be to say I know I got in because of affirmative action and I thought that was ok. Which means, I know other people were discriminated against in my favor and that's great. 🤮
Unfortunately, that's not how she sees it. She sees it as recompense for having been historically in discriminated against.
In her worldview whoever lost out so she could get in, can thank their Great Grandparent for that misfortune.
Coleman is Puerto Rican not Black
and ya face, if you blush, is scarlet not red...whatever!
America is supposed to be a land where we lift up all people. But, instead, we are a country where money is power, and only the powerful rule. You're more likely to win the lottery and get a fortune, than to work hard your whole life and earn a fortune.
Depends what a fortune is to you. I know many immigrants (including my own mother and her siblings) who came to the US, got an education, got a job, and are doing well enough. They're not millionaires but they're stable homeowners with kids and able to vacation.
Define a "fortune".
I don't need a fortune, personally.
@@pheeel17 I know many who did that got a good job saved money, invest in real estate and small side businesses and are now millionaires.
It's so common that it's sad to see so many not see the path.
Mis-information Coleman Crews. BTW I wonder what give you the right to speak on issues concerning the descendants of American slavery?
He's not only a descendant of African slaves in America, he can trace his ancestry directly. I knew his Mom in the South Bronx. She and Coleman's Father would both laugh right in your stupid face.
Affirmation action was implemented because collages were rejecting based on race specifically if they were black.
Now they reject Asians for being yellow and overachieving.
Affirmative action is just a euphemism for racism and it does not work
Simple anti-discrimination law could've solved that. No need for affirmative action. In the UK, they never had affirmative action for women, for example. But the number of women increased exactly the same as the US.
Wrong, they literally could have not provided the race information to the admissions people
This is just false.
@@garywood97 There are some forms of positive discrimination for women in the UK, sadly. Look up All Women Shortlists in the Labour party. Which mandate 50% of MP/candidates are women and that female MPs can only be replaced by female MPs or minorities. It was sued against and the policy was rightly deemed illegal. So Labour just passed legislation to make it legal.
We're going down the same road as the US.
Affirmative action doesn't have to have any exclusive aspect to it, it can be merely inclusive. There are qualified black people we just have to find them and add them not at the expense of anyone else and indeed to rectify past exclusion. Then it will be productive.
Don’t understand what you’re saying. Do you mean that the issue is that we are not “finding” the black talent?
@@couldbe8348 That may be the case. AA doesn't have to be based on limiting anyone else just adding black folks they have excluded in the past. Many places have to have outreach to reach qualified blacks and other rminorities.
@@ishaq24722 Perhaps I’m missing something, but what does that mean “reach out” As if these people are in caves hundreds of miles away we need to find them. Put another way, big banks large corporations are looking for the brightest and most creative people. They don’t discriminate-just want earnings so why even need in an affirmative action program
@@couldbe8348 You’d be surprised what’s going on you don’t know about
@@ishaq24722 I work in the corporate world so, no, I don’t think there’s much I haven’t seen or read about. Profit profit profit is the end all. I’m not sure why affirmative action is needed. Do you?
Affirmative Action Around the World: an empirical study
It doesn't work in theory or practice.
Maybe blacks, latinos, and females should step up their game and stop depending on discrimination aka affirmative action to get ahead.
We need affirmative action for employment but NOT education.
No to both. But DE&I does exist in the workforce.
Ok so now I’m seeing that maybe affirmative action is a problem for colleges in that it is in no way a solution to the problem. However it does, for the time help nonwhite people get more deserved access to education.
The problem is that it doesn’t also help poor whites.
Any black kid getting AA into the Ivy League would have no problem getting into most other colleges on their own merits. They would still have access to a quality education that they truly "deserved". The large majority of black AA recipients at elite colleges come from middle class and above households. People like Obama's kids are getting the AA, not some kid in a housing project in Baltimore.
@@janso7979 How do you know this? I thought the whole point of affirmative action was to allow for high achieving lower income students to get access to education. And why put deserved in quotations? Do you have a problem with everyone, or nonwhite people getting education, that is DESERVED? Or do you feel that it’s not deserved, because there is a program that is supposed to be helping them? And why would Obama‘s kids need affirmative action? Like what is it that you’re even saying? What point are you trying to make?
And the point is to have DESERVED access to all colleges, including Ivy leagues. More importantly it’s about having real access to the colleges that you want to go to.
@@janso7979 and your comment is also so crazy because you say that they could get into other colleges based on their merits, which includes their grades and academic prowess, but at the same time say that affirmative action is how they get into the ivies. Like…don’t you see how that is a problem? Doesn’t it seem odd that the ivys are blocking black kids that have the merit to get into colleges????? Hello
@@guessan154 I know about it because I've read about it. Apparently, you haven't. I also went to an elite college myself, although it wasn't Ivy League. The black girl in my Freshman dorm was the daughter of a Federal judge, and I doubt that any of the other black students at the school came from the bottom 50% in family income. What you thought was the point of AA, and how AA is actually administered in the real world don't line up. I'd be much less against AA if it were implemented as you imagine. The black students at the Ivy League aren't coming from impoverished backgrounds, except in rare instances. Many AA slots for black students even end up going to rich foreigners with zero ties to any historical American racial discrimination. I don't have a problem with anybody, white, black, or green, getting access to an education they deserve. I have a problem with people being admitted to schools and hired for jobs with lower qualifications based on their skin color.
You're absolutely right that Obama's kids shouldn't need AA. It goes to show how messed up our system is that despite how privileged his kids are, they still would qualify for AA.
@@guessan154 Do you realize that different schools have different standards of admission? There are tens of thousands of kids of all races who meet all the standards to attend a good school like the University of Michigan who however don't meet Harvard's standards of admission. Should everybodywith average grades and SAT scores be admitted to Harvard? If a white kid is good enough to play basketball for his local junior college does that mean he should therefore be recruited to play for Duke?
Good to see he's not riding buses and nothing but his underwear nowadays. Puerto Rican pretending to be black American
He is Black. His father is a Black man. Mother is Puerto Rican.
I'd you are claiming only folks with 2 Black American parents are black, then boy there a lots of black folks who don't know they ain't black. I'm sure some are even relatives of yours.
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The part of your statement you let out with ,,, if ,, let alone claim.
But that is your like of understanding of my statement. But let me help you. The simple term speaking of black or not, which seems to be your position is speaking only of melanin. Which obviously he has.
However my statement spoke of Black Americans , which is not a statement or whether or not anyone has melanin let alone or black or not. Simply one specific group that have a 200 and something year history in this country. And anchored in that history. People that immigrate here from other countries and are also black. And have gained citizenship are also considered black American. Which is only your turn previously used by those black Americans or African Americans, that have a 200-year history in this country and have lived the experience that this guy opposes, it's not a question of his melanin or whether he's black or not. Just not black American. So he doesn't get to speak for me,
Your only hope and salvation from this madness is Jesus Christ. You`re a sinner, Jesus was crucified for your sins on the cross so you could live forever with him. He provided a way out. Repent or face his judgement and wrath for the time is at hand, these are the end times.
that coleman kid is wild corny
That guy is hardly a black man.
Not less black than Obama.
Always hurts me to see individuals claim via the internet that someone who would identify as black as "hardly black". As if race can be given and take away with typed words. Always shocking for me.
He is a man.
@@StrategicWealthLLC this is a true sentence.
@@prollyRB - I have always admired the nuances in King’s civil rights marches. The men then didn’t carry signs saying, “I am a black man”. They carried signs saying, “I am a man”.
That is the difference between the identity-politics movements of yesteryear and today. Noble movements seek to create integration. Ignoble movements seek a type of segregation. Martin Luther King, Jr’s movement was noble.
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about. Affirmative Action primary goal is to diversify campus. It not just about race, it includes religion, nationally, sex and creed
Let’s diversify the NBA and NFL. 🤣
And you're an enemy of your own people
Who is an enemy of their own people?
Your racist projection is typical of leftists. Who the feck are you to decide what is good for his "own people"? You're clearly not a deep thinker like Coleman is.
Diversity is the greatest weakness of the US
Indeed send whites back to Europe
Cosmetic/superficial diversity is not a weakness... it's neutral.
The weakness is the Pretending that cosmetic diversity is a strength.
What is "privilege" I shudder at a benign word which has been weaponised.
Is LeBron James priviliged ?
Are Black athletes making insane money privileged because they were born into a particular athletic body ? Are beautiful people privileged ? Will you blame Mr James for his privilege ? Or that famous tennis player Willams ?
I don’t know why you’re bringing race into this when Hughes didn’t use privilege in that context. His point he believes that affirmative action as we know it isn’t worth having, however he believes that there should be something in place to allow the less privileged (of any race or in general) opportunity.
@@matthew3977 The entire discussion is about "race" and "privilege" in case you missed the core . People are getting into university because of the colour of their skin.
What was not talked about is "culture". many Urban US Blacks have no "culture of education" or "book culture".
That is why immigrants outpace the US born Blacks. Because their parents understand that reading and getting a decent grade matters.
Professor John McWhorter just published this critique on substack (April 23) called "NO MORE TESTS: WE SHOULD MEASURE BLACK KIDS ON THEIR "DESIRE TO KNOW."
Loury and McWhorter have in the past discussed the problem of the anti education mindset in parts of the Black Community.
Dumb comparison. Athletics isn’t nearly as subjective as other areas of society. If you can run fast, jump high, etc. you’ll get a spot on the team. Didn’t work like that initially before in many college admission offices or hiring offices in the business world which is why affirmative action was implemented in the first place.
@@aoht06 and the Biden Administration just killed the charge of anti Asian Racism when getting into universities. This is called marxism. when people get stuff because they have the-right book in hand or the perfect skin tone.
@@aoht06 run fast. Score higher in a test. I'll say they are similar.