@@RUclipsTVbeakfly204 most definitely. I have been very interested in onexplayer but I rather have the ability to have good support. Seems to be the best option for handheld gaming.
Were there indication of addressing the audio quality of the legion go speakers? I don't have the first gen device, but I hear it could be much better.
The ergonomics of the GO 1 and lack of OLED were the primary reasons I held out from being an early adopter. I knew a 2.0 model was going to have to improve on those fronts. Now I can’t wait to get my paws on it
I have an Ally X and am still in the return window. I love the 16:10 screen on the Go S, and the ergonomics. Just curious if it’ll be a reduction in speed as it seems like it’s between the Z1 & Z1 Extreme processor from last year?
@madboyokc the go s offers two variations one is a z1 extreme and a 6000 series steam os will be available publicly from April for free so just wait for that or wait for go 2 with oled vrr z2 extreme 74 wh
Yes they are tighter now. I sent a modded pair to Lenovo with tighter joystick modules and I think they implemented it. It's the same size module in the Go 2 but they are tighter, so seems like the mod I sent was implemented
I know everyone is looking at the z2 extreme, but do you think anyone will be trying to put the full fat ai 395 into a handheld? It seems to be in a class all on its own performance wise.
The power envelope seems way too high for handheld…. Looks like range is 45W to 120W so you’d need a gigantic machine even on the lower end just for cooling
@@KaiThouKingI haven’t had the pleasure of trying simulators tho I did play Need For Speed growing up and for emulation I dabble with some racing games with PS2 (NetherSX2) - not yet anything on my channel, but I have future plans to get some content uploaded.
Alienware have to be kicking themselves They had the 'UFO' handheld concept in 2021 that OneXplayer and Lenovo Lego Go 2 have made into actual products.
Wow nice 1st look at the OneX G1. If you recall me I am a big fan of the original GPD Mini. This having a bigger screen definately interests me. Did you find out if the display is a native portrait then? With the current design I kinda wish they raised the controller bed higher and squeezed in a larger battery. Did you happen to catch the rated batter capacity btw? With the higher bed they could sell the keyboard as optional but make it attachable on the bottom. Yeah it would add bulk but I would not need to always carry it since the touch keypad is always there anyways. I worry the physical button layout is confusing. Start and select should be paired together. Why separate Joystick On and Mouse Optical On as two buttons? They should just toggle with one or slide switch. A dedicated left / right click is sure is handy though. Note it sounds like you cannot have the mouse cursor on when using the keypad. Might have to toggle between each which will be a drag if that is the case. Edit: It labels Joystick Start and Controller Start, are one of these a Home button? Yup confusing. I really dig that they fit both usb type A, 2 type C's and oculink! Oh I also now wonder if they could have opted for the Smaller 8" 120hz VRR oled screen with room to fit a hd camera in there next time? Sorry I got a bunch of questions packed in there. I hope you get more hands on time with it. The win mini feels great in the hands and I image this mid step is best when avoiding a win max situation.
@@okestgamer game tech talk, filled me in. It's a 51.97W/Hr battery and the keyboard, keypad and physical buttons are still not final. There is a keypad with joystick mouse mode (so perhaps the touchpad isn't moving the cursor when mode is selected). They say the keycaps will be see through, to support rgb backlighting and touch keypad is getting a number row which wasn't shown on that prototype.
Love the Legion go, but was hoping they would change the layout of the back buttons for the Legion Go 2.. The left side is fine but the right side the buttons are horizontal rather than vertical.. would of preferred vertical layout on both sides.
The legion go s seems smart but I really want to get the legion go 2. I know 64gb of ram is hard to do but I wish they made a version where you pay more like 1500 and they includes a dock that can give you more power. So you get ps5 levels of graphics but high frames. On my legion go I can get games to look amazing at 30 fps or look mid and play above 60.
@okestgamer Yeah, 🤣 I guess it's just a pc in the end , but I hope they can do all this into a more console experience. To where when you dock it , it's just steam OS , or even an Xbox console style experience with the power of a PC , maybe if you pay more you get better performance or something. But they can figure that out !
Hopefully they sell the controllers on the Go 2 so it can be used for the original Go. That looks comfortable, especially the curve towards the bottom. I heard that on the new Go 2 the old controllers are usable
Ill probably wait for the go 2. Onex G1 is nice but too expensive and the battery is not enough, it looks real nice but im waiting on reviews to see the keyboard touchpad functionality.
@@okestgamer Wow. I don't get it. Apple always strives to increase the power of their portable devices while getting the weight down. Valve did the same thing with the OLED deck. Why is every other company increasing the weight on these things. It's a recipe for carpal tunnel.
Legion Go 2 screen confirmed specs according to Lenovo: 8.8 inch, OLED, 144Hz, VRR, landscape. I'm unsure of its resolution, max brightness, whether it can do HDR (i.e. SD OLED does do HDR, so hopefully the Go 2 can as well).
These new handhelds need to quit emulating switch joy con layout. The ergonomics are awful. Need more that match the steam deck, that is the most comfortable and would like to see more options with that layout.
For what it's worth, I'd suggest grabbing an ally X instead if you aren't going to grab something with the Z2 extreme chip right away. The difference in Ram makes a huge difference in games. Not just in general performance, but in binary yes no playability.
@@fairplayer916 DFoes it really make a difference? I've heard some people say that the screen on the LeGo is so good that its not really that observable that it doesnt have VRR as compared to the Ally X....
@@fairplayer916 Also, the ROG is just so ridiciously expensive in the UK at the moment. I feel like I could just wait for the LeGo 2 based on current ROG Ally X prices.
@@megabyte64 it does. the extra ram gives you a general FPS bump, but the big thing is that 16 gb split between system and Video memory just isnt enough for some games. even with minimum settings. and VRR is a noteworthy point itself. lower FPS feels like higher FPS with VRR.
@gamers-generation that’s for the support bro. This comment is gold. I agree with @okestgamer we do provide a good balance with brevity and detail. It’s been an honor and has been fun being here at CES 2025.
Legion go 2 8.8 oled vrr 74wh z2 extreme 32 ram but over 2lbs up to 2b top version 999? maybe if it was few hundred grams less I would get it hopefully better cooling though and better speakers and software support or just launch it with steam os
I like innovation, but the One X Sugar sounds ridiculous 🙄 bet it'll be priced crazy too based on OneX pricing. It's also supposed to be Android, and with my experience of AyaNeo/Ayn/Retroid OneX better optimize the Android OS PROPERLY. What I mean by that is those 3 popular companies are forgetting multiple key features of Android and AyaNeo has the worst OS of the 3. So if OneX does it good I'd be down to try it if it's under $600. I'd personally rather attach a display to a device I own to give it a secondary screen rather than an all in one device.
@okestgamer I'm loving the F1 Pro honestly and own multiple handhelds. The F1 Pro just does it for me for controls, performance, compatibility, and even the battery isn't that bad all considering.
The Main Issue with this handhelds are the Price. To me it's more like a novelty item for those who can spend money. Im looking for a mid ranged handheld that is UPGRADABLE With Easy Repairs, components that is accessible and can be ordered online, and the traditional removable BATTERY...
The go 2 will gonna have that z2 extreme chip no doubt but I really don’t think anything has been announced. It’s 2 versions of the S which is like go 1.5 that they announced. But the chip is at best comparable to the Z1 extreme & it might not even match it. It’s better than the Z1. The same as the Z1 extreme, i don’t know. At best the steam deck model is basically the original ROC Aly only with Variable refresh rate, but w/o the AMD software suite that enables frame gen. In 2025 there is no way you should buy that.
Go2 is next year at the earliest. 1 non functional display unit, yea thats the phase right after material design pass which is after the concept phase, that shit EARLY. by the time go 2 releases Z3 will be out.
Gonna say thay the Go2 is the one im going to get for sure. Its everything i want in the Go. Thanks for sharing
No problem, it looks pretty sick NGL
Same, Go2 looks promising to be honest
@@RUclipsTVbeakfly204 most definitely. I have been very interested in onexplayer but I rather have the ability to have good support. Seems to be the best option for handheld gaming.
@RUclipsTVbeakfly204 I'm expecting same performance as the ai 9 hx 370 in the onexfly F1 pro
Were there indication of addressing the audio quality of the legion go speakers? I don't have the first gen device, but I hear it could be much better.
The Go 2 is my Go-To.
Can't wait.
Awesome video!
Thanks so much for the support @MaybesWorld. We have had fun recording these and talking about CES 2025.
Glad you enjoyed it, it's looking to be a pretty nice device
Legion Go 2 Problem is ..time, how much time will we have to be waiting for buying it??? End of summer??? This is too much
Lmao 🤣😂 yeah I know the suspense is killing me too dude
Same here dude
Most likely late Q1 or early Q2
The ergonomics of the GO 1 and lack of OLED were the primary reasons I held out from being an early adopter. I knew a 2.0 model was going to have to improve on those fronts. Now I can’t wait to get my paws on it
Vrr > oled
Yeah it's got a beautiful screen
I have an Ally X and am still in the return window. I love the 16:10 screen on the Go S, and the ergonomics. Just curious if it’ll be a reduction in speed as it seems like it’s between the Z1 & Z1 Extreme processor from last year?
@madboyokc the go s offers two variations one is a z1 extreme and a 6000 series steam os will be available publicly from April for free so just wait for that or wait for go 2 with oled vrr z2 extreme 74 wh
It's likely a little less powerful
Are the joysticks tighter?? That one of my only issues with the first one you can blow of them and they move
Yes they are tighter now. I sent a modded pair to Lenovo with tighter joystick modules and I think they implemented it. It's the same size module in the Go 2 but they are tighter, so seems like the mod I sent was implemented
I know everyone is looking at the z2 extreme, but do you think anyone will be trying to put the full fat ai 395 into a handheld? It seems to be in a class all on its own performance wise.
The power envelope seems way too high for handheld…. Looks like range is 45W to 120W so you’d need a gigantic machine even on the lower end just for cooling
Isn't that what's in ASUS's Flow Z13?
That's the Asus Flow Z13
@@ktvx.94 yeah i saw that. maybe they will release a controller cradle for it of some kind.
Probably not, maybe if it was some hybrid device that was larger
So the $729 model available at BestBuy right now is the lowest end chip model??
I believe so
@@okestgamer sheesh. That's terrible value
@madboyokc no the one you see on BestBuy is the Windows version of the Go … the Go S (steam is in 2-3 months i guess )
Any thoughts on the audio for the legion go 2?
It was too loud to test unfortunately
1:45 Didn't recognize Forza Horizon? But Dave the Diver????
I haven’t taken much time to play racing games, but still enjoyed my time on the Legion Go S nonetheless. I’m open to recocmendations.
@@GamingForInsight Which racing games are you into? Arcade or Simulation style?
@@KaiThouKingI haven’t had the pleasure of trying simulators tho I did play Need For Speed growing up and for emulation I dabble with some racing games with PS2 (NetherSX2) - not yet anything on my channel, but I have future plans to get some content uploaded.
Legion go 3 will fit in my hands even better I feel 😂
Probably will lol
How much does the mini laptop cost
They start at 899 for 8840u one.
www.indiegogo.com/projects/onexplayer-g1-compact-powerhouse-for-game-work#/
Alienware have to be kicking themselves
They had the 'UFO' handheld concept in 2021 that OneXplayer and Lenovo Lego Go 2 have made into actual products.
Dell is the name of the company, not alienware. It is a product line
Maybe they will enter the game still, just a little late
Wow nice 1st look at the OneX G1. If you recall me I am a big fan of the original GPD Mini. This having a bigger screen definately interests me. Did you find out if the display is a native portrait then?
With the current design I kinda wish they raised the controller bed higher and squeezed in a larger battery. Did you happen to catch the rated batter capacity btw? With the higher bed they could sell the keyboard as optional but make it attachable on the bottom. Yeah it would add bulk but I would not need to always carry it since the touch keypad is always there anyways.
I worry the physical button layout is confusing. Start and select should be paired together. Why separate Joystick On and Mouse Optical On as two buttons? They should just toggle with one or slide switch. A dedicated left / right click is sure is handy though. Note it sounds like you cannot have the mouse cursor on when using the keypad. Might have to toggle between each which will be a drag if that is the case. Edit: It labels Joystick Start and Controller Start, are one of these a Home button? Yup confusing.
I really dig that they fit both usb type A, 2 type C's and oculink!
Oh I also now wonder if they could have opted for the Smaller 8" 120hz VRR oled screen with room to fit a hd camera in there next time? Sorry I got a bunch of questions packed in there. I hope you get more hands on time with it. The win mini feels great in the hands and I image this mid step is best when avoiding a win max situation.
So display is native portrait (same display as X1 mini and legion Go), battery I think I heard was 55wh or something
@@okestgamer game tech talk, filled me in. It's a 51.97W/Hr battery and the keyboard, keypad and physical buttons are still not final. There is a keypad with joystick mouse mode (so perhaps the touchpad isn't moving the cursor when mode is selected). They say the keycaps will be see through, to support rgb backlighting and touch keypad is getting a number row which wasn't shown on that prototype.
What do you think about the speaker placement? Because the sound on the OG legion is pretty bad.
Didn't pay too much attention to speakers due to the loud environment
@ I see. Just hoping that the speakers placement does not affect the sounds. Thank you!
Speakers on LeGo 2?
Environment was super loud so couldn't get a gauge on it
Big fan of the original legion go hope this new legion go 2 will knock it out of the park
I think it's going to do very well
My only concern about the Go 2 is the supposed 500 nits for the OLED screen. That's not really enough for an impactful HDR experience in my opinion.
Yea idk why they didn’t put a brighter OLED screen
Could be battery issues. Probably best to just try and chase down an anti-glare protector.
Didn't get too much of a chance to test out the display, it did look nice, not as bright as some others though
The G1 is interesting. Direct competition for GPD and their cyberdeck, I mean mini gaming laptop.
Yeah more competition in the form factor is a good thing
I was hoping they were going to surprise release the go 2 with the S models but I’m excited for it!
Yeah I'm thinking it will be late q1 or early q2
Love the Legion go, but was hoping they would change the layout of the back buttons for the Legion Go 2..
The left side is fine but the right side the buttons are horizontal rather than vertical.. would of preferred vertical layout on both sides.
I hear ya, I guess the fps mode kinda makes it have to be that way
@@okestgamer That's spot on.. shame as it's a gimmick I and many others have no intention of using.
The legion go s seems smart but I really want to get the legion go 2. I know 64gb of ram is hard to do but I wish they made a version where you pay more like 1500 and they includes a dock that can give you more power. So you get ps5 levels of graphics but high frames. On my legion go I can get games to look amazing at 30 fps or look mid and play above 60.
Basically an egpu solution where it docks on top?
@okestgamer Yeah, 🤣 I guess it's just a pc in the end , but I hope they can do all this into a more console experience. To where when you dock it , it's just steam OS , or even an Xbox console style experience with the power of a PC , maybe if you pay more you get better performance or something. But they can figure that out !
Hopefully they sell the controllers on the Go 2 so it can be used for the original Go. That looks comfortable, especially the curve towards the bottom.
I heard that on the new Go 2 the old controllers are usable
Apparently they are looking into this. I asked today when I went back
@okestgamer Awesome news, hopefully it's easy to get access to outside US
Ill probably wait for the go 2. Onex G1 is nice but too expensive and the battery is not enough, it looks real nice but im waiting on reviews to see the keyboard touchpad functionality.
Yeah it's a nice unique take on a handheld. I'm always happy to see experiment device form factors
Does the Go 2 feel lighter ? You didn’t mention weight
I would say it feels very slightly heavier
@@okestgamer Wow. I don't get it. Apple always strives to increase the power of their portable devices while getting the weight down. Valve did the same thing with the OLED deck. Why is every other company increasing the weight on these things. It's a recipe for carpal tunnel.
@misters7413 battery size. Take a look at any of my review videos and you'll see in the comments section that everyone wants a larger battery
I really hope the Go 2 will have Steam OS otherwise it's a skip for me.
Let's see, I wouldn't be surprised if they would try an option
No VRR😢
Legion go 2 has vrr
Legion Go 2 screen confirmed specs according to Lenovo: 8.8 inch, OLED, 144Hz, VRR, landscape. I'm unsure of its resolution, max brightness, whether it can do HDR (i.e. SD OLED does do HDR, so hopefully the Go 2 can as well).
@@tappersreviews4677 max brightness was 500 nits
They confirmed it to have vrr
@okestgamer it on there site kinda insane
"Its probably the lightest 8 inch that I've held"😆
Lol it was. The aokzoe A1 felt similar in weight
But I know where you were going with it lmao
@@okestgamer 😆
You sick sick man lol
😆
That OneXG1 looks awesome as a travel laptop/portable gaming device. Im sure itll cost like $1500 or something though.
Starts at 899
These new handhelds need to quit emulating switch joy con layout. The ergonomics are awful. Need more that match the steam deck, that is the most comfortable and would like to see more options with that layout.
There's a preference for all, but modular would be best so you could choose
Might just get the Go S Steam version until the GO 2 comes out
It's a pretty nice device
Im just going to buy LeGo 1 now, and then wait for LeGo 2 to go on sale
For what it's worth, I'd suggest grabbing an ally X instead if you aren't going to grab something with the Z2 extreme chip right away. The difference in Ram makes a huge difference in games. Not just in general performance, but in binary yes no playability.
@@fairplayer916Are you speaking from experience of owning both Legion go and Ally X? And which games in particular?
@@fairplayer916 DFoes it really make a difference? I've heard some people say that the screen on the LeGo is so good that its not really that observable that it doesnt have VRR as compared to the Ally X....
@@fairplayer916 Also, the ROG is just so ridiciously expensive in the UK at the moment. I feel like I could just wait for the LeGo 2 based on current ROG Ally X prices.
@@megabyte64 it does. the extra ram gives you a general FPS bump, but the big thing is that 16 gb split between system and Video memory just isnt enough for some games. even with minimum settings.
and VRR is a noteworthy point itself. lower FPS feels like higher FPS with VRR.
I came for an OKest recap, but the INSIGHT provided here was more than OK.
We balance each other out nicely haha
@gamers-generation that’s for the support bro. This comment is gold. I agree with @okestgamer we do provide a good balance with brevity and detail. It’s been an honor and has been fun being here at CES 2025.
This comment is gold @gamers-generation!
@Gaming_for_insight it was AI generated.
Very nice kinda od wish it had a larger battery. 499 is a great price 👍🏼
Yeah it's a matter of pick what you can to get the cost down
Legion go 2 8.8 oled vrr 74wh z2 extreme 32 ram but over 2lbs up to 2b top version 999? maybe if it was few hundred grams less I would get it hopefully better cooling though and better speakers and software support or just launch it with steam os
I wouldn't be surprised if the had a steam os version
I like innovation, but the One X Sugar sounds ridiculous 🙄 bet it'll be priced crazy too based on OneX pricing. It's also supposed to be Android, and with my experience of AyaNeo/Ayn/Retroid OneX better optimize the Android OS PROPERLY. What I mean by that is those 3 popular companies are forgetting multiple key features of Android and AyaNeo has the worst OS of the 3. So if OneX does it good I'd be down to try it if it's under $600.
I'd personally rather attach a display to a device I own to give it a secondary screen rather than an all in one device.
We will see what it turns out to be like. I'm not massive into android gaming, so I don't have many strong thoughts one way or another
@okestgamer I'm loving the F1 Pro honestly and own multiple handhelds. The F1 Pro just does it for me for controls, performance, compatibility, and even the battery isn't that bad all considering.
I just saw my arm :)
It was the highlight of the video! It was great to meet you btw.
Hopefully Legion Go 2 has a 100 W battery
It is confirmed it has 74wh battery finally, any link to see that about 100wh?
The problem for the LeGo 2 is ...a prototype so , when will it be for sale?? End of the summer perhaps? So much time waiting...
They said around in 84 what or 80 w no hundred though
@@Andrew-Nightthey said in the end of 2025
Lmfao good one
When Legion Go 2?
Not soon enough probably…
I'm thinking Q2
I saw a video were a Lenovo rep confirmed for 2nd half of the year
هل يتوفر بلعراق هذاا جهاز
That part I'm not sure
@okestgamer ياخي اريد هذا جهاز شلون اكدر اجيبه
The Main Issue with this handhelds are the Price. To me it's more like a novelty item for those who can spend money. Im looking for a mid ranged handheld that is UPGRADABLE With Easy Repairs, components that is accessible and can be ordered online, and the traditional removable BATTERY...
I'm sure we will see more of those in the future
Lego 2 please
Should be soon
They didn't recognize Forza Horizon? Wild reporting
We had 3 new handhelds and that was the takeaway?
(A larger 8-in) HaHaaaaa 😂 That's what she said
Ya know, I had thought of how it sounded and hoped nobody caught it lol
@okestgamer lol 👍😎
The go 2 will gonna have that z2 extreme chip no doubt but I really don’t think anything has been announced. It’s 2 versions of the S which is like go 1.5 that they announced. But the chip is at best comparable to the Z1 extreme & it might not even match it. It’s better than the Z1. The same as the Z1 extreme, i don’t know. At best the steam deck model is basically the original ROC Aly only with Variable refresh rate, but w/o the AMD software suite that enables frame gen. In 2025 there is no way you should buy that.
Go2 is next year at the earliest. 1 non functional display unit, yea thats the phase right after material design pass which is after the concept phase, that shit EARLY. by the time go 2 releases Z3 will be out.
there is a working screen video on cyberdopamine channel
Nah it's looking to be most likely Q2 this year device is running and is pretty close to being ready n
oneXplayer likes to copy GPD ;-)
They all borrow from each other in some way or another
Battery. That’s all I want to know, if it’s not 80whr or better, I don’t want it
Legion Go 2 is 74wh
@ 74 is solid, that’s ballpark 🤙