Great review...as always. And also big thanks for that little extra history lesson about the origins of Octava and Soyuz. I would love to see a comparison of Beesneez and Soyuz too! 🙂
Fascinating history to Soyuz, I genuinely didn't know any of that! The full-bodied sound from this thing is pretty amazing! No-holds-barred low end is rare these days, most people roll it all away. Cheers, and thanks for another awesome video! Always excited to see more Pags from MEI!
Thanks for checking it out @DapperDanLovesYou! I love me some full-bodied sound! Was just what i was looking for for kick, and surprised me on floor tom. Basically what I've been looking for in a floor tom mic. Rejection was awesome and the thicc (2 C's) bottom end is just a powerhouse.
Man they make nice mics! I’ve seen them for years… and always thought they must be amazing in studio use. Oh! They look like no other mics, too. Some look like porcelain, the finish is so beautiful. Thanks for the video.
The 013's we got for review... i was honestly scared to put them up as overheads. The finish is like fine china. I was scared one would fall and shatter. lol.
I almost got one, but it was out of stock at the time I was buying and picked up a handfull of various other condensers instead... What I did end up with as my go to kick drum mic for now is the Dr Alien lien8, is a dynamic that sounds more like the kick drum as it is in the room that many other mics I tried.
I was looking at the Dr alien smith mics a while back. Youre the first person ive bumped into that owns one. We were lookin at the green bullet style mic. The figure 8 mic is interesting. Do you put it IN the kick or i front? I can imagine a fig 8 mic inside would have significant phase issues.
@@meistudiony I generally use it just a couple of inches outside the hole with the cardioid pattern engaged. I am doing live take recordings to minimize spill, the figure 8 pattern has a more natural sound again, But so far this in this setup, this mic has left all my other mics in the dust. to my ears it just seems to capture the natural sound (and feel) im getting from the drum in the room through the system better than most other options. The only thing I would do differently would be to use a LDC further back, but is hard to do that in my small space when its packed with other musicians ...
Thanks for mentioning this. Cant tell you how many people ask why i include the distorted guitar part. This is the exact reason. The whole middle of the freq spectrum lights up with distortion and it reveals a lot in an area thats usually kind of difficult to manage with eq alone, which is why finding a mic that sounds close to what you like is important. Thanks for checking the video out!
The high end on the 103/102 is something that can work on darker sources as theyre kinda bright. Not a fan. The soyuz sounds more full and less harsh to me.
If i needed a pair of good pencils, thats probably where I'd land. They're slightly less than the KM184 but sound way better. Again, hand made everything. The finish on them is like fine china.
Bomblet was really nice. In comparison the bomblet was kind of neutral sounding. The 73 has a heck of a thump to it. Thanks for checking out the video!
An excellent video as always! It would be really interesting to hear your thoughts on microphone manufacturers self consciously trying to innovate in the realm of microphone design (companies like Lewitt, Austrian Audio and Lauten come to mind). Are their additions to the tried and tested mic formulas just gimmicks or are there products being made today that genuinely change how mics can be used in the studio?
Thats a great question! And to be honest, I don't see anyone really "innovating" anything really. The basic construct of a condenser, dynamic and ribbon motor haven't really changed for the most part. The circuits that surround the capsule are constantly being tweaked to meet the demands of the day. For instance, everything 10 years ago was just BRIGHT. That seems to be falling slightly out of favor these days and we can see mics tailoring the circuits to even out the top end a bit more on some higher end mics. (and cheap ones too... i mean look at the difference between what a neewer 800 sounds like compared to the FiFine K669... i mean... dang!). The biggest innovation in recent times, was the modeling mic and the use of a dual diaphragm where the polar pattern and axis settings can be "reset" after the fact. To me at least. Austrian Audio is working off their great experience at AKG and doing what AKG doesn't do any more in making really high quality components. Lauten is kind of same ol to me. I've used a bunch of their mics and none of them have really made my eyes open and say "wow!". Lewitt is kind of the same. Their cheap line is re-branded chinese stuff from what I can tell (again have used a bunch of their stuff in the studio). Their more expensive line seems to be really solidly built and again tailored to current tastes, which is not a BAD thing at all. I have a hard stop price point wise and any mic thats over $2K better do something REALLY special that no other mic can do for me to consider paying that kind of price for. As far as HOW we're using the mics... the modeling and dual diaphragm mics have changed some things. The vast majority of the other mics seem to be business as usual. Point the business end to what we want to capture, adjust settings and push the red button. I would love to see something truely NEW. A new way to capture sound (i guess MEMS mics are the newest). We went from carbon granles, to ribbons, to crystals, to moving coils, to condensers, to electrets and now MEMS, which are kind of just another type of electret. Would be really cool to see something never done before that has some kind of advantage. Years ago i was playing around with a mic element design that was free floating in a ferrofluid suspension. The bottom end was HUGE, but the top end kind of sucked and the whole assembly was quite messy and would dry out over years. Thanks for the great question and for checking out the videos, appreciate it!
That definitely makes sense. I guess this kind of thing happens in every field of engineering, a fighter jet pilot from the 1950's would think that they were in a spaceship if you put them in one from the 1970's yet the designs between 2000 and 2020 just come down to tweaking details (an extreme example just to illustrate my point). Impractical as your ferrofluid design sounds in day to day applications, if you were to demo something like that on the channel I'm certain that there's an audience of people like myself that would find that absolutely fascinating - even if you can't scale production of this technology just knowing it's possible is inspiring by itself
Great channel from the few videos I have watched so far but I have to say I'm rather disappointed with the promoting of Russian microphones and the excuse that the guys at Soyuz just want to make microphones. Just can't get on board with any Russian product no matter how good the quality might be or how much they manage to ignore what their country is doing. These "Certain actions" as you call them are known to sensible people as a war. A war that not only threatens the country of Ukraine but also the rest of Europe and really freedom and democracy all around the world. Sad that you go out of your way to tell people basically to pay no attention to what is going on and endorse these mics. If you were alive during WWII would you have been cool about buying and promoting Neumann mics back then???
@nettlecarrier8259 It's my honest opinion on the subject so I suppose according to you I have been brainwashed into thinking that supporting a company from a totalitarian country that has been trying to take over the country next door to it by destroying it and and it's people is not cool no matter how good their mic sounds or how great a price it might be.
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Thanks so much for your research on our history! We really appreciate your thorough approach!
Sorry about mispronouncing your name. Mikhail smacked me for it. 😔
The best video for 1973 testing! Thanks
Wow! Thank you so much! Very much appreciated. 🙏
You *always* provide great information in your videos. We had no idea that Soyuz had a connection to Oktava. Thanks, as always, for your insights.
Not really a connection, more of an almost was something different... or something... lol but seems like thats where it all began.
Great review...as always. And also big thanks for that little extra history lesson about the origins of Octava and Soyuz. I would love to see a comparison of Beesneez and Soyuz too! 🙂
Thanks for checking it out. Definitely going to set that up sooner than later.
Fascinating history to Soyuz, I genuinely didn't know any of that! The full-bodied sound from this thing is pretty amazing! No-holds-barred low end is rare these days, most people roll it all away.
Cheers, and thanks for another awesome video! Always excited to see more Pags from MEI!
Thanks for checking it out @DapperDanLovesYou! I love me some full-bodied sound! Was just what i was looking for for kick, and surprised me on floor tom. Basically what I've been looking for in a floor tom mic. Rejection was awesome and the thicc (2 C's) bottom end is just a powerhouse.
Nice to soy uz today
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Brilliant comment.... just brilliant!
@@meistudiony I'm here all week.....end
Man they make nice mics! I’ve seen them for years… and always thought they must be amazing in studio use. Oh! They look like no other mics, too. Some look like porcelain, the finish is so beautiful. Thanks for the video.
The 013's we got for review... i was honestly scared to put them up as overheads. The finish is like fine china. I was scared one would fall and shatter. lol.
Fantastic coverage of the mic Pags, thanks for the really great demonstrations.
Thanks for checking it out and leaving a comment! Appreciate ya!
I'd love to see a Beesneez and Soyuz comparison. Thanks for the great videos.
As would I. Im gonna have to drag him and his mics down from CT now to get this done! Thanks for watching.
Great video - Very tempted by the Soyuz 1973 myself
I went into this expecting nothing. This is now my go to for outside kick, floor tom and bass.
I almost got one, but it was out of stock at the time I was buying and picked up a handfull of various other condensers instead... What I did end up with as my go to kick drum mic for now is the Dr Alien lien8, is a dynamic that sounds more like the kick drum as it is in the room that many other mics I tried.
I was looking at the Dr alien smith mics a while back. Youre the first person ive bumped into that owns one. We were lookin at the green bullet style mic. The figure 8 mic is interesting. Do you put it IN the kick or i front? I can imagine a fig 8 mic inside would have significant phase issues.
@@meistudiony I generally use it just a couple of inches outside the hole with the cardioid pattern engaged. I am doing live take recordings to minimize spill, the figure 8 pattern has a more natural sound again, But so far this in this setup, this mic has left all my other mics in the dust. to my ears it just seems to capture the natural sound (and feel) im getting from the drum in the room through the system better than most other options. The only thing I would do differently would be to use a LDC further back, but is hard to do that in my small space when its packed with other musicians ...
@@Vor-tech-studios thanks for sharing. Gonna have to see if i can get my hands on one!
There's nothing like distorted guitar to show off big differences in frequency response. Great looking mics at not-crazy prices.
Thanks for mentioning this. Cant tell you how many people ask why i include the distorted guitar part. This is the exact reason. The whole middle of the freq spectrum lights up with distortion and it reveals a lot in an area thats usually kind of difficult to manage with eq alone, which is why finding a mic that sounds close to what you like is important. Thanks for checking the video out!
How would you compare to something like a TLM 102 or other entry level Neumann mics? Seems similar but higher noise floor specs on paper.
The high end on the 103/102 is something that can work on darker sources as theyre kinda bright. Not a fan. The soyuz sounds more full and less harsh to me.
Those 013’s sound great!
If i needed a pair of good pencils, thats probably where I'd land. They're slightly less than the KM184 but sound way better. Again, hand made everything. The finish on them is like fine china.
Can you use this on a guitar cab live without picking up other instruments?
Depending on how you have it set up you can minimize bleed but no mic will be completely isolated in a live environment.
That Bomblet is an excellent mic too
Bomblet was really nice. In comparison the bomblet was kind of neutral sounding. The 73 has a heck of a thump to it. Thanks for checking out the video!
An excellent video as always! It would be really interesting to hear your thoughts on microphone manufacturers self consciously trying to innovate in the realm of microphone design (companies like Lewitt, Austrian Audio and Lauten come to mind). Are their additions to the tried and tested mic formulas just gimmicks or are there products being made today that genuinely change how mics can be used in the studio?
Thats a great question! And to be honest, I don't see anyone really "innovating" anything really. The basic construct of a condenser, dynamic and ribbon motor haven't really changed for the most part. The circuits that surround the capsule are constantly being tweaked to meet the demands of the day. For instance, everything 10 years ago was just BRIGHT. That seems to be falling slightly out of favor these days and we can see mics tailoring the circuits to even out the top end a bit more on some higher end mics. (and cheap ones too... i mean look at the difference between what a neewer 800 sounds like compared to the FiFine K669... i mean... dang!). The biggest innovation in recent times, was the modeling mic and the use of a dual diaphragm where the polar pattern and axis settings can be "reset" after the fact. To me at least. Austrian Audio is working off their great experience at AKG and doing what AKG doesn't do any more in making really high quality components. Lauten is kind of same ol to me. I've used a bunch of their mics and none of them have really made my eyes open and say "wow!". Lewitt is kind of the same. Their cheap line is re-branded chinese stuff from what I can tell (again have used a bunch of their stuff in the studio). Their more expensive line seems to be really solidly built and again tailored to current tastes, which is not a BAD thing at all. I have a hard stop price point wise and any mic thats over $2K better do something REALLY special that no other mic can do for me to consider paying that kind of price for. As far as HOW we're using the mics... the modeling and dual diaphragm mics have changed some things. The vast majority of the other mics seem to be business as usual. Point the business end to what we want to capture, adjust settings and push the red button. I would love to see something truely NEW. A new way to capture sound (i guess MEMS mics are the newest). We went from carbon granles, to ribbons, to crystals, to moving coils, to condensers, to electrets and now MEMS, which are kind of just another type of electret. Would be really cool to see something never done before that has some kind of advantage. Years ago i was playing around with a mic element design that was free floating in a ferrofluid suspension. The bottom end was HUGE, but the top end kind of sucked and the whole assembly was quite messy and would dry out over years. Thanks for the great question and for checking out the videos, appreciate it!
That definitely makes sense. I guess this kind of thing happens in every field of engineering, a fighter jet pilot from the 1950's would think that they were in a spaceship if you put them in one from the 1970's yet the designs between 2000 and 2020 just come down to tweaking details (an extreme example just to illustrate my point). Impractical as your ferrofluid design sounds in day to day applications, if you were to demo something like that on the channel I'm certain that there's an audience of people like myself that would find that absolutely fascinating - even if you can't scale production of this technology just knowing it's possible is inspiring by itself
I prefer the 023 on piano & clean guitar 1973 on bass 023 fet on od guitar
Great channel from the few videos I have watched so far but I have to say I'm rather disappointed with the promoting of Russian microphones and the excuse that the guys at Soyuz just want to make microphones. Just can't get on board with any Russian product no matter how good the quality might be or how much they manage to ignore what their country is doing.
These "Certain actions" as you call them are known to sensible people as a war. A war that not only threatens the country of Ukraine but also the rest of Europe and really freedom and democracy all around the world. Sad that you go out of your way to tell people basically to pay no attention to what is going on and endorse these mics. If you were alive during WWII would you have been cool about buying and promoting Neumann mics back then???
just one question. Are you a bot or just brainwashed?
@nettlecarrier8259 It's my honest opinion on the subject so I suppose according to you I have been brainwashed into thinking that supporting a company from a totalitarian country that has been trying to take over the country next door to it by destroying it and and it's people is not cool no matter how good their mic sounds or how great a price it might be.
@nettle. Neither.... which are you ???
I would encourage people to not buy an products that help support the Russian economy. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇲 💙💛🏁
Most of the economy of Russia is from the oligarchs drilling for oil
Who cares
Support russian production, maybe putin will send you a hypersonic "gift"!