Well I’m a bit confused on which to invest in between huo and Nevsky. I’m gonna get Joan to 5515 regardless, but you just previously that huo/joan was the best option. But you best march was Joan/nevsky? Which is it?
Awesome video. Cavs still rule even though the commanders are older. Might be a reflection of how good cav gear is and how much march speed affects kills.
Interesting video. One think which made me think was the reason you use Joan primary. Maybe the reason I find scipio/liu che so tanky and affective in murderballs is due to scipio A support tree and all the skill damage reduction.. I fully agree with you about guan. I run Liu che/alex and guan/scipio as my two marches. Guan always underwhelms. I just don’t think Wallace is worth it for my 5 march setup. Funny enough my huo/william(maxed) outperforms all my other marches by a big gap
I always wait for this video after your kvk because this is one of the best way to check if commanders are great as what other content creators are claiming so thank you 😁... I'll still skip Wallace tho Alex is enough for me
You should either keep the hunter on a single damage commander or a commander with 5 targets aoe to take advantage of it. If its on joan its only a 6% boost instead of 10%
"Why do people run joan primary?" because they hate getting more kills... the skill tree is much MUCH better than the support tree and it is not close. it's interesting that you're so much higher on wallace than basically everyone else. to be clear i think youre very correct, he's being extremely underrated atm.
Heres hoping scipio wallace can work because i want to continue to use gorgo liu or liu alex. Im still not fully sold on wallace as it is. I have every inf commander besies cheok tariq and pakal .
hello, may I ask for advice? i have 1 march cava (joan nevsky), i want to add 1 march infa, so liu che and who should i expert right? The golden head is only enough for 2 expert commanders. is it liu che & alex (alex 5511) or is it better to upgrade expert liu che & ww? i am f2p so don't want to make bad decisions because golden gead is quite hard to get, thanks
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You can listen to everyone tell you not to use ww, or you can watch all the videos of him obliterating everyone and ignore the jackazzes who told you not to use him lol
@@jimibones178 WW is for sure the best pair for LC but you have to think about what is he going with his ScipioP. If he doesn't have a suitable pair for his ScipioP, he shouldn't expertise WW. So if you have ScipioP allready, do not make WW because it's a waste of golden heads spent. If you do not have ScipioP, 100% go for WW.
@Haustark 100% true. Is the predicament I'm in now. But I gotta get rid of guan. I was thinking on pairing ww with gorgo so I can keep skippy/lc as it is. Sux to break up such a goated pair, but not sure how else to set up 2 marches
@@jimibones178 i have the same problem im rocking Scipio with Lu che. And only have purple special gear for a second Infantry march.. got some sentimental value on Scipio as well lol
Darn it I enjoyed other RUclipsr telling to sleep on WW now comes Gainz to show the receipts lol! Please don't promote WW let me enjoy him and a few of us who enjoys this killing machine.
Interesting video till the part where you randomly decide to sum up random commander to evaluate a pair ... this make no sense cause when a march gets 1 kill, both commander get the credit for that kill. That's why your Zhu and your Hermann have the same number of kills. That's also why if you sum up nevski's and Huo's (without the one Huo got with William), you end up with Joan's kills (Joan = Nevski + Huo - William) Btw Huo Joan is a terrible march cause of the massive anti-synergy those 2 have. Joan is a massive damage dealer, meaning she is very likely to get the march a kill on her round of active skill, aka round 3 of a skill cycle or even worse: on round 5 ... if that happens, you litteraly lost 5 round of rage generation cause of Huo's expertise. Huo's expertise is godtier in Altar fight, but outside of that "'niche" situation Huo is worse than Nevski and Belisarius. Now regarding Wallace ... because of that point i made, that a kill from a march credit both commander from the said march, i dont think Wallace is deserving the credit of those 4M kills ... it's LuChe that is carrying the kill count. It's hard to evaluate which of Alex or Wallace did the best with LuChe cause you paired Alex with scipio and scipio with guan, making the kill count really random. Also the overall duration where you ran LuChe Alex is an unknown factor
I think you have the wrong idea of how kills are credited to each commander: it’s not 1:1, when 1 commander gets 1 kill they both get 1 kill. Each active skill will do different amounts of damage. For example, for LC/Alex, when Alex has an instant proc, that skill damage counts for his kills - not LC’s, which is why I add in the part about pairings. I also made a disclaimer about the different pairings I ran, even though Scipio/Alex was only run for maybe 2 fights throughout Kvk, that still adds variability. It’s not a perfect system, simply a way to analyze how each march did on average. You would need a sophisticated AI system to track all kills throughout Kvk, somewhat similar to the one Cuba’s Mike has. Also - if Huo and Joan are not a good pairing, why is it the #1 pairing for Altar fights when you can only bring 1 march? (Because it’s the best cav option) Huo and Joan basically never dies for the reason you gave, Huo does a massive heal, Joan kills a lot of enemies. That isn’t anti-synergy.
@@gainzgaming1 i was a bit to quick on my response (tyhat was already quite long lol) "Huo's expertise is godtier in altar" so much that it offsets the anti synergy. Because a march is the best does not mean what i described is false: loosing 5 round of rage generation sucks, period, and it more likely to happen with Joan than any other commander. Does not mean that other options are stronger tho. Your claim about the active skill (or any skill actually) crediting only the commander owner of that skill is easy to check: hit a dummy and retreat after the primary launch his active but before the secondary does. If the primary gained more kills, then you are right. I am not in a situation allowing me to check that rn, sorry.
What do you think about how each commander did? 👀
Well I’m a bit confused on which to invest in between huo and Nevsky. I’m gonna get Joan to 5515 regardless, but you just previously that huo/joan was the best option. But you best march was Joan/nevsky? Which is it?
Liu che is a beast of a commander no matter who you pair him with Alex,Scipio.WW he just works.
Lc can carry any infantry commander.
Facts
I look forward to these videos every time you leave Kvk. Thanks dude!
Glad you like them!
Awesome video. Cavs still rule even though the commanders are older. Might be a reflection of how good cav gear is and how much march speed affects kills.
60mil kills nice! GG Gainz 79 did great
Thanks bro!
Interesting video. One think which made me think was the reason you use Joan primary. Maybe the reason I find scipio/liu che so tanky and affective in murderballs is due to scipio A support tree and all the skill damage reduction..
I fully agree with you about guan. I run Liu che/alex and guan/scipio as my two marches. Guan always underwhelms. I just don’t think Wallace is worth it for my 5 march setup.
Funny enough my huo/william(maxed) outperforms all my other marches by a big gap
Dang that’s crazy!! Huo William is still such a great march
Really thanks for sharing
I always wait for this video after your kvk because this is one of the best way to check if commanders are great as what other content creators are claiming so thank you 😁... I'll still skip Wallace tho Alex is enough for me
yes please skip wallace thank you.
🙌🏼
Great content and thanks for letting me know now who the best commanders are 😅
Glad to help!
gj mate ,we were fighting in the same team , hope I wil help more next time, you're kingdom is great, gg. Hope you win next time :)
Thank you!!
I like the graphics you used for the kills
Thanks!
Prediction before video even starts: 1) LC/Alex, 2) Nevsky/Joan, 3) ZL/Herman, 4) Guan/Scipio, 5) Huo/William
Welp, I’m surprised. I really thought LC/Alex was gonna be number 1 😮
@@BobaTeaRoK If WW had not come out in the middle of kvk and he used LC/Alex the entire time it may have ended up that way.
@BobaTeaRoK yeah bro, lc/alex would have 100% had the dub if ww didn't crash the party 😂😂😂😂😂😂
huo william should have more kills tham guan scipio
@@bannozz I don’t know, man…. AoE is king in the field. Aoe commanders should always have more kills than single target. Example, Joan vs Nev
Thank so much for sharing and great information
Glad it was helpful!
Wow I can't believe William wallace that good!
no he's not don't use him thanks.
You should either keep the hunter on a single damage commander or a commander with 5 targets aoe to take advantage of it. If its on joan its only a 6% boost instead of 10%
That’s a good idea
I adore joan of Ark, she's great 😫
"Why do people run joan primary?" because they hate getting more kills...
the skill tree is much MUCH better than the support tree and it is not close.
it's interesting that you're so much higher on wallace than basically everyone else.
to be clear i think youre very correct, he's being extremely underrated atm.
I was also the only Rok RUclipsr that was saying LC Alex was broken when LC came out haha
You do the best ifo vids ever
Thanks!!
If you'd need to Pick only ONE inf march, would you rather go for Lc and Wallace or Lc and Scipio?
Wallace LC
You should try Scipio/Wallace and LC/Alex. I wonder how that would compare to Wallace/LC Guan/Scipio
Scipoi wallace
Is good
I have ww liu.. i have killed a lot of liu alex here. 🤣🤣
Heres hoping scipio wallace can work because i want to continue to use gorgo liu or liu alex. Im still not fully sold on wallace as it is. I have every inf commander besies cheok tariq and pakal .
@@LFC1533 yeah skip ww let just a few people use them thanks.
Hey bud nice video, you were insulting my farm cheesburguring you in kvk. Good fight this kvk.
Hahaha 😂
so who is the better investment herman or ww?
If you have LC/Alex Boudica/Zhuge, then Hermann.
hello, may I ask for advice? i have 1 march cava (joan nevsky), i want to add 1 march infa, so liu che and who should i expert right? The golden head is only enough for 2 expert commanders. is it liu che & alex (alex 5511) or is it better to upgrade expert liu che & ww? i am f2p so don't want to make bad decisions because golden gead is quite hard to get, thanks
LC Alex 5511 is a good starting point but eventually getting to WW LC is best
Wait you would rather run WW/LC SCIPIO/ALEX over LC/ALEX SCIPIO/WW ???? Did you ever run scipio ww??
I did for a bit, but not long enough to have a full conclusion
Thanks for the inputs! Curious to know how much does it cost to buy all the pop up?
109 usd
@@gainzgaming1 thank you bud!
Could you share what app you used to track speed ups/ resources/ kills ?
I just counted manually lol
Well it gives me reassurance ive benched guan scipio for scipio WW as guan scipio was performing horribly last kvk 😢
Smite is great. Barely any commanders have reduction for it
LC its just him, zughe also very strong but he misses out on march speed
Facts
i was thinking to get nevsky and pairing him with huo but should i pair huo with a second joan? my wheel is in 5 hours
I think Joan is better than Nevsky since she has aoe and buff
@@zaiminnosi2905 alright, I got both and am just gonna use Huo Joan for now
I’d prefer Huo Joan for sure
How do you get so many rss? That seems to handcuff me every kvk, since only allowed 2 accounts per kingdom it’s frustrating
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@@gainzgaming1 thank you bud
Just picked up the third relic of YSG. 7 to skill damage was not ideal but good enuff for a commander I still pair with Boudica
Nice
If I was just heading into kvk 3 for one infantry march should I do WW/ Liu or ScipioP/ Liu ??
WW lc
I only run one archer which is boudica/zhuge. Should I max Herman or wait for the new archer?
Also, if you have herman please share your thoughts 👀
5551 herman
@@jimibones178I’m just afraid lilith releasing another archer meta
Hermann will be better than the new archers imo
Brother which auxiliary skills best for gorgo and liu in season of Quonset
For open field
I’d have to see what the options are. Haven’t played that Kvk in ages
is 5551 hermanP better than max boudica? my zhuge+boudica performed worse than guan+scip
I think so yes.
If you guys already have Alex, no need to invest for WW unless you running for 2nd or 3rd infantry march.
Yea
Correct
If my Joan is only 5525 but my Nev is exp should I still put her as the primary commander ?
Yes
Is hou viable in the field at 5551 or does he have to be maxed?
Viable yes, but worth the max
@gainzgaming1 just finished ww pass 6 opens tomorrow so I'll try him and I'll save gh for hou now
So if im running one Infantry march do i bench Scipio for William Wallace? Or is Scipio lu che stil fine
If you allready have Scipio, do not make WW.
You can listen to everyone tell you not to use ww, or you can watch all the videos of him obliterating everyone and ignore the jackazzes who told you not to use him lol
@@jimibones178 WW is for sure the best pair for LC but you have to think about what is he going with his ScipioP. If he doesn't have a suitable pair for his ScipioP, he shouldn't expertise WW.
So if you have ScipioP allready, do not make WW because it's a waste of golden heads spent. If you do not have ScipioP, 100% go for WW.
@Haustark 100% true. Is the predicament I'm in now. But I gotta get rid of guan. I was thinking on pairing ww with gorgo so I can keep skippy/lc as it is. Sux to break up such a goated pair, but not sure how else to set up 2 marches
@@jimibones178 i have the same problem im rocking Scipio with Lu che. And only have purple special gear for a second Infantry march.. got some sentimental value on Scipio as well lol
Bro I had Alex already and liu che - but my DA went and maxed gorgo did I make a mistake ?
Eh now you have a garrison! Haha 🤣
Can i run guan and lue chei?
It’s not meta but usable I guess
You are much cuter than Omniarch! 😏
🤣🤣🤣
Btw how i can change the graphics in my pc i cant find it ??
This is just the remastered Kvk graphics
I dont understand what some people are talking about when they say ww sucks. I expertised him, and the dude is an absolute truck with lc secondary
no don't promote ww let us enjoy him lol
Dude fr
@@IZTheOne 🫵😎
Darn it I enjoyed other RUclipsr telling to sleep on WW now comes Gainz to show the receipts lol! Please don't promote WW let me enjoy him and a few of us who enjoys this killing machine.
Hahahaha I love it 😂
Wouldn’t Herman be a better primary just like Joan. Same skill trees
It’s cause of ZL’s expertise that makes him better primary even to boudica.
You want ZL to be primary for his exp
My wallace did 9 mil kills in pass 4
Daaaang
You said “scam gaming” ??? LOOLLL
Huh?
Interesting video till the part where you randomly decide to sum up random commander to evaluate a pair ... this make no sense cause when a march gets 1 kill, both commander get the credit for that kill.
That's why your Zhu and your Hermann have the same number of kills.
That's also why if you sum up nevski's and Huo's (without the one Huo got with William), you end up with Joan's kills (Joan = Nevski + Huo - William)
Btw Huo Joan is a terrible march cause of the massive anti-synergy those 2 have. Joan is a massive damage dealer, meaning she is very likely to get the march a kill on her round of active skill, aka round 3 of a skill cycle or even worse: on round 5 ... if that happens, you litteraly lost 5 round of rage generation cause of Huo's expertise. Huo's expertise is godtier in Altar fight, but outside of that "'niche" situation Huo is worse than Nevski and Belisarius.
Now regarding Wallace ... because of that point i made, that a kill from a march credit both commander from the said march, i dont think Wallace is deserving the credit of those 4M kills ... it's LuChe that is carrying the kill count.
It's hard to evaluate which of Alex or Wallace did the best with LuChe cause you paired Alex with scipio and scipio with guan, making the kill count really random. Also the overall duration where you ran LuChe Alex is an unknown factor
I think you have the wrong idea of how kills are credited to each commander: it’s not 1:1, when 1 commander gets 1 kill they both get 1 kill. Each active skill will do different amounts of damage. For example, for LC/Alex, when Alex has an instant proc, that skill damage counts for his kills - not LC’s, which is why I add in the part about pairings. I also made a disclaimer about the different pairings I ran, even though Scipio/Alex was only run for maybe 2 fights throughout Kvk, that still adds variability. It’s not a perfect system, simply a way to analyze how each march did on average. You would need a sophisticated AI system to track all kills throughout Kvk, somewhat similar to the one Cuba’s Mike has.
Also - if Huo and Joan are not a good pairing, why is it the #1 pairing for Altar fights when you can only bring 1 march? (Because it’s the best cav option) Huo and Joan basically never dies for the reason you gave, Huo does a massive heal, Joan kills a lot of enemies. That isn’t anti-synergy.
@@gainzgaming1 i was a bit to quick on my response (tyhat was already quite long lol)
"Huo's expertise is godtier in altar" so much that it offsets the anti synergy. Because a march is the best does not mean what i described is false: loosing 5 round of rage generation sucks, period, and it more likely to happen with Joan than any other commander. Does not mean that other options are stronger tho.
Your claim about the active skill (or any skill actually) crediting only the commander owner of that skill is easy to check: hit a dummy and retreat after the primary launch his active but before the secondary does. If the primary gained more kills, then you are right. I am not in a situation allowing me to check that rn, sorry.
wallace aint it for me, lol
How come?
Why are you hoarding vip & gems ? I really fail to understand the logic behind ppl doing that.
If I have my gems open I spend them