Me too. I put u4t in my wife's white kbd8x mkii and kbdpad, because she prefers u4t. I personally prefer the tecsee coffee chip ice cream. I lubed mine with tribosys 3203, and to me it feels so smooth, sound so deep and creamy. It sound like pressing on a real traditional piano's key. I liked it so much I bought 3 extra bags of 110 switch as my backup supply :)
So I’ve been looking around to trying a tactile switch and I think you’ve won me over. I was debating U4T, Anubis and Blueish Whites for awhile, primarily U4T and Anubis. So it ended up being a great and unexpected surprise seeing the Anubis as one of the main comparisons since I haven’t seen too much talk about them. I hear that they can be a bit boring and I do hear things about how a two stage spring swap for the Anubis helps it out a ton. But other than that, I’m guessing it’s a sign I should pull the trigger on the Anubis.
Could you please compare the boba u4 switch to his alternatives? Trying to find the best tactile silent switch, but seems like there are no good alternatives to u4 at all... Im kinda confused, hope for your help!
there's a difference between boba u4t and u4t, from what i've been told! Boba is a plastic formulation that reacted poorly with some foams (i.e. discoloration), but looking at gazzew's new offerings there's Black Boba U4t so I think it should be fine!
Thanks so much! So I’ve never tried the moyu black, but I do know that the Anubis uses the same stem mold as the moyu black! From my understanding, Mechsondeck wanted a better sound and smoothness with the same tactility as the moyu, hence the semi-opaque bottom and the nylon top for the Anubis :)
Hey, thanks for sharing your experience. I recently started getting into the mechanical keyboards enthusiasts thing. Sorry to ask you but if you have a chance please can you try to help me on this one? I went to a Best Buy yesterday to try different switches. I tested a few different keyboards. Initially I thought that I was a linear switch person. I stand with that feeling after trying the first keyboards but then I tested the HypeX Aqua tactile switches and somehow I felt that it was the right fit for me. Those switches were smooth, light (I guess factory pre lubed), with light thocky sound, almost silent I'd say and with a little to nothing actuation tactile force against the fingers. My first inclination was to order thoses switches, well, they are not for sale. What are the tactile extreme super light pre lubed thocky (but almost silent) switches that you know that could be what I'm looking? Are those bellow in this category? - Tecsee Blue Sky 63.5g - Kailh Midnight Pro 55g - KTT Phalaenopsis 50g - Neapolitan Ice Cream 63.5g - Boba U4T V2 62g (this is what brought me to your video) - TTC Silent Bluish White 50g - Outemu Silent Cream Yellow Pro 60g To summarize, I think I'm looking into a tactile switch that is almost a linear switch, very light bump and a thocky low sound signature.
I also love the Anubis switches but I had a LOT of inconsistency issues with my switches from batch 1... and return issues as well on the mods. I spring swapped them to 67 g springs and that helped a lot but it still feels a bit off on the return. Do yours have that issue?
I personally didn’t but I could see it happening with the large tactile bump on the moyu black stem, and a lighter spring! I pretty much immediately spring swapped to 69g kinetics though so that might be why I didn’t have the same issue!
I used boba for about 3 months or even more, then I just swapped back my glorious pandas. what I actually dislike about them are: 1. they are actually more clacky then thocky compared to GP, but this might be different from board to board, on my board GP sounds better; 2. when you soft press them, right at the beginning you can hear a pop noise, very metallic and ones you notice it, it becomes very annoying; 3. the way they bottom out makes them weird on the spacebar, you can even hear that pop sound better on the spacebar in each review video. they are actually more tactile compared to GP, just slightly and you might prefer that but I would consider them for a more clacky build.
I admit the bobas do sound better when they are lubed and your board is modded. I like the sound better than my HP. However, I haven't read or heard about one issue with the bobas which I learned only when I wanted to change my keycaps. Lo and behold, the switches are coming out with the keycaps. Turns out they sound great and feel great, but they fit the keycaps terribly. They are so tight and snug, having a bigger stem so that when I started removing my MT3 keycaps, the switches came with the keycaps. It happened on every single one of my boba. That's when my FB group told me that that is an issue. So now I am using only clones on my bobas. And they are never going to be replaced ever. Too much trouble. They may sound and feel great but not so great when you want to change your keycaps every so often lest they end up breaking your keycap stems. I think my keycaps are still more expensive than the switches.
100% to this comment. I've noticed that the Boba U4Ts have often come out, along with my Cherry/SA/MT3 keycaps, on both a PC plate and a steel plate. For that reason, I do not often use U4Ts when I'm experimenting with keyboard mods or keycap swaps. I wonder if this is something specific to tactile switches, because I have never encountered this sort of issue with the linear switches I've tried.
Perfect timing video, I'm now planning on picking up some coffee switches just to try em, but they're kind of in limited stock. I've heard that blue velvet tactiles or purple pandas are just them recolored? Is that true?
Wow thanks haha. Yeah I see that they're all made from tecsee all featuring pom stems and pme housings. Im just curious since some are cheaper than the others. And also the purple pandas are on prime which is really convenient.
Fantastic video! This is the content I was looking for as I'm just getting into tactile switches. It's good to get another perspective on the U4T's because there's so many new tactile switches out there.
I already have the U4T's, just wondering if theres anythign out there the community considers a clear "upgrade" or has it come to a point where everything is just a sidegrade now based on preferences.
I think it will always come down to personal preference; I prefer the Anubis switches but they aren't like a full stop better or anything :) definitely comes down to typing feedback and if you're itching for something new, a spring swap can make the same switch feel totally different for way less money!
My other keyboards have kailih switches and I don’t like them anymore. Tried a friends electro capacitive keyboard (topre copy) and I fell in love. I am gonna try some gateron yellow pros or maybe the ink v2 next before I buy a topre or electro capacitive keyboard
@@MakerMods I just got my gateron pro's (ks9 2.0) and am in love. Gonna buy a topre keyboard next or probably the clone (niz atom) My friends niz felt so good when I tried it.
One thing that triggered me was the audio and the lipsync. I think it's off. Sound seems ahead than the video. Edit: At first I was hmm you seem strange. My mind kind of immediately picked up on the audio not matching your lips. I think when you did the two keyboard the audio was muted for the blue keyboard and I think when people do audio test like that should also include a visual of the volume. I don't know what it is called but that bar or graph that you see when you edit the sound. Cause the bar helps people visualize what the sound the switches produce. I know it's easy to differentiate the difference between a clacky or thocky keyboard but sometimes when switches sometimes produce a more subtle difference if it is lubed. Also I would enjoy it much more it the sound tests were more back to back instead of spaced out with you saying what switch. What you could've done is mention which switches you were going to do in order or/and adding the name of switches in editing. And also in this video timestamps are off for the switches I'm not going to check the others (I can't be bothered). When you say the name of the switch it is still halfway through the previous ones. Anyway I hope some of my feedback I can give based on this video helps ya out.
Thanks so much for the feedback! Definitely still working on my craft and my more recent vids have some of the suggestions you mentioned! Thanks for the support!
@@MakerMods Damn mb, forget about the lipsync one since you've already fixed it. I think my browser was just acting weird with that video cause I refreshed the page and it acted the audio just wasn't working right I guess. But I'm currently on my phone and your videos look fine. 🙃 Also do you have a discord community? It'd be nice to have a faq there since it would help tell me more about your self. Like questions such as how many switches you've tried? What sound profile you like (clicky, clacky, thocky or whatever sound)? Your current favourite or daily driver? Your favourite linear, tactile, clicky switch?
I have both of them and i think the Nixdork switches are ok compare to their U4Ts. It's more like a gimmick imo... The longer i use the U4Ts, the more i start to not like them as a stock switch. I've tried the Nixdork stock and they feel pretty good as in i didn't lube them and just use them.
Dude, nicely done. Super impressed by the depth you went into on this video. Thank you.
Thank you so much!!!! :D
Awesome video - Brave of you to say the U4t's have been dethroned! definitely subscribing.
Puahaha! Hot takes incoming in 2022!!! Thanks for the support!
Me too. I put u4t in my wife's white kbd8x mkii and kbdpad, because she prefers u4t. I personally prefer the tecsee coffee chip ice cream. I lubed mine with tribosys 3203, and to me it feels so smooth, sound so deep and creamy. It sound like pressing on a real traditional piano's key. I liked it so much I bought 3 extra bags of 110 switch as my backup supply :)
So I’ve been looking around to trying a tactile switch and I think you’ve won me over. I was debating U4T, Anubis and Blueish Whites for awhile, primarily U4T and Anubis.
So it ended up being a great and unexpected surprise seeing the Anubis as one of the main comparisons since I haven’t seen too much talk about them. I hear that they can be a bit boring and I do hear things about how a two stage spring swap for the Anubis helps it out a ton.
But other than that, I’m guessing it’s a sign I should pull the trigger on the Anubis.
Could you please compare the boba u4 switch to his alternatives? Trying to find the best tactile silent switch, but seems like there are no good alternatives to u4 at all... Im kinda confused, hope for your help!
I’ve had mine for about 4 months and I’m having a extreme amount of double clicking issues there really good it’s just annoying
What board are you using?
@@MakerMods I’m using a gmmk pro
Can you compare them to cheap AF Ajazz (Huano) Banana / Kiwi ?
the u4t are now black, are they still the same?
there's a difference between boba u4t and u4t, from what i've been told! Boba is a plastic formulation that reacted poorly with some foams (i.e. discoloration), but looking at gazzew's new offerings there's Black Boba U4t so I think it should be fine!
First
LOL INSTI YOU’RE AWESOME
I still have a bag of U4T’s unlubed and unused. I quickly found that I really like linear switches so lots of other switches jumped the line
Haha I totally feel ya!!!
the nixdork bobas almost look as dope as your beautiful eyes ben
LOL FREAKING BEN, ILYSM MAN
Dang I just bought 80 Boba U4T last night.
Was thinking of swapping them to brown housings
Great insight on types of tactile switch 💕. What are your thought on anubis vs moyu black?
Thanks so much! So I’ve never tried the moyu black, but I do know that the Anubis uses the same stem mold as the moyu black! From my understanding, Mechsondeck wanted a better sound and smoothness with the same tactility as the moyu, hence the semi-opaque bottom and the nylon top for the Anubis :)
Hey, thanks for sharing your experience.
I recently started getting into the mechanical keyboards enthusiasts thing. Sorry to ask you but if you have a chance please can you try to help me on this one?
I went to a Best Buy yesterday to try different switches. I tested a few different keyboards. Initially I thought that I was a linear switch person. I stand with that feeling after trying the first keyboards but then I tested the HypeX Aqua tactile switches and somehow I felt that it was the right fit for me.
Those switches were smooth, light (I guess factory pre lubed), with light thocky sound, almost silent I'd say and with a little to nothing actuation tactile force against the fingers. My first inclination was to order thoses switches, well, they are not for sale.
What are the tactile extreme super light pre lubed thocky (but almost silent) switches that you know that could be what I'm looking?
Are those bellow in this category?
- Tecsee Blue Sky 63.5g
- Kailh Midnight Pro 55g
- KTT Phalaenopsis 50g
- Neapolitan Ice Cream 63.5g
- Boba U4T V2 62g (this is what brought me to your video)
- TTC Silent Bluish White 50g
- Outemu Silent Cream Yellow Pro 60g
To summarize, I think I'm looking into a tactile switch that is almost a linear switch, very light bump and a thocky low sound signature.
I also love the Anubis switches but I had a LOT of inconsistency issues with my switches from batch 1... and return issues as well on the mods. I spring swapped them to 67 g springs and that helped a lot but it still feels a bit off on the return. Do yours have that issue?
I personally didn’t but I could see it happening with the large tactile bump on the moyu black stem, and a lighter spring! I pretty much immediately spring swapped to 69g kinetics though so that might be why I didn’t have the same issue!
@@MakerMods ahhh that makes a ton of sense. I might try out the 69 g kinetic labs spring you mentioned in your other video then. Thanks a ton!
thanks for adding the comparison to salmons I was deciding between both of them!
I used boba for about 3 months or even more, then I just swapped back my glorious pandas. what I actually dislike about them are:
1. they are actually more clacky then thocky compared to GP, but this might be different from board to board, on my board GP sounds better;
2. when you soft press them, right at the beginning you can hear a pop noise, very metallic and ones you notice it, it becomes very annoying;
3. the way they bottom out makes them weird on the spacebar, you can even hear that pop sound better on the spacebar in each review video.
they are actually more tactile compared to GP, just slightly and you might prefer that but I would consider them for a more clacky build.
I admit the bobas do sound better when they are lubed and your board is modded. I like the sound better than my HP. However, I haven't read or heard about one issue with the bobas which I learned only when I wanted to change my keycaps. Lo and behold, the switches are coming out with the keycaps. Turns out they sound great and feel great, but they fit the keycaps terribly. They are so tight and snug, having a bigger stem so that when I started removing my MT3 keycaps, the switches came with the keycaps. It happened on every single one of my boba. That's when my FB group told me that that is an issue. So now I am using only clones on my bobas. And they are never going to be replaced ever. Too much trouble. They may sound and feel great but not so great when you want to change your keycaps every so often lest they end up breaking your keycap stems. I think my keycaps are still more expensive than the switches.
100% to this comment. I've noticed that the Boba U4Ts have often come out, along with my Cherry/SA/MT3 keycaps, on both a PC plate and a steel plate. For that reason, I do not often use U4Ts when I'm experimenting with keyboard mods or keycap swaps. I wonder if this is something specific to tactile switches, because I have never encountered this sort of issue with the linear switches I've tried.
Perfect timing video, I'm now planning on picking up some coffee switches just to try em, but they're kind of in limited stock. I've heard that blue velvet tactiles or purple pandas are just them recolored? Is that true?
I’ve sent some messages to Tecsee and CK, I’ll let you know what I discover!
So no word yet on whether they’re the same, but CK has an order of the CCICs coming in!
Wow thanks haha. Yeah I see that they're all made from tecsee all featuring pom stems and pme housings. Im just curious since some are cheaper than the others. And also the purple pandas are on prime which is really convenient.
Tecsee does a lot of recolors so I wouldn't be surprised if those tactiles are all the same
So I got my switches mixed up. Tecsee confirmed the Neapolitan is a custom mold; I’m waiting for confirmation re: CCIC
your complaint is that they won'
t tell you what plastic they are using? isn't it kind of like a secret? so they stay superior???
is it me or is the audio video not synced properly? looks kind of delayed
Fantastic video! This is the content I was looking for as I'm just getting into tactile switches. It's good to get another perspective on the U4T's because there's so many new tactile switches out there.
Great to hear!
Great video!! Interested in how the penguins fair against the anubis switchs
Let me dig my penguins out of the closet and compare!
thinking of spring swapping my coffee chips, do you have any recs?
Sorry for the late reply! My favorite springs are 69g symmetric from kinetic labs :)
What about the durock sunflower ?
Where are the keycaps pictured at 7:25 from/ who are they made by?
The brown and green colored ones are GMK Camping R2, and the blue and yellow are GMK bellafonte!
I already have the U4T's, just wondering if theres anythign out there the community considers a clear "upgrade" or has it come to a point where everything is just a sidegrade now based on preferences.
I think it will always come down to personal preference; I prefer the Anubis switches but they aren't like a full stop better or anything :) definitely comes down to typing feedback and if you're itching for something new, a spring swap can make the same switch feel totally different for way less money!
twitch misses you, keebdad!
I bought the U4 silent version. I regret it and wish I got these U4T’s
My other keyboards have kailih switches and I don’t like them anymore. Tried a friends electro capacitive keyboard (topre copy) and I fell in love. I am gonna try some gateron yellow pros or maybe the ink v2 next before I buy a topre or electro capacitive keyboard
What don’t you like about the u4??
@@MakerMods they’re just too quiet lol, don’t really care for anything about it actually. Just very meh feeling especially for the $70 I paid
@@MakerMods I just got my gateron pro's (ks9 2.0) and am in love. Gonna buy a topre keyboard next or probably the clone (niz atom) My friends niz felt so good when I tried it.
sound test is silent for gmk belafonte?
Yeah I just realized that as well! :’( so sorry… it got overwritten when i was adding my music tracks and I’m trying to redo the video now!
One thing that triggered me was the audio and the lipsync. I think it's off. Sound seems ahead than the video. Edit: At first I was hmm you seem strange. My mind kind of immediately picked up on the audio not matching your lips. I think when you did the two keyboard the audio was muted for the blue keyboard and I think when people do audio test like that should also include a visual of the volume. I don't know what it is called but that bar or graph that you see when you edit the sound. Cause the bar helps people visualize what the sound the switches produce. I know it's easy to differentiate the difference between a clacky or thocky keyboard but sometimes when switches sometimes produce a more subtle difference if it is lubed. Also I would enjoy it much more it the sound tests were more back to back instead of spaced out with you saying what switch. What you could've done is mention which switches you were going to do in order or/and adding the name of switches in editing. And also in this video timestamps are off for the switches I'm not going to check the others (I can't be bothered). When you say the name of the switch it is still halfway through the previous ones. Anyway I hope some of my feedback I can give based on this video helps ya out.
Thanks so much for the feedback! Definitely still working on my craft and my more recent vids have some of the suggestions you mentioned! Thanks for the support!
@@MakerMods Damn mb, forget about the lipsync one since you've already fixed it. I think my browser was just acting weird with that video cause I refreshed the page and it acted the audio just wasn't working right I guess. But I'm currently on my phone and your videos look fine. 🙃 Also do you have a discord community? It'd be nice to have a faq there since it would help tell me more about your self. Like questions such as how many switches you've tried? What sound profile you like (clicky, clacky, thocky or whatever sound)? Your current favourite or daily driver? Your favourite linear, tactile, clicky switch?
Videos keep getting better mate 🙌
Thanks for the support!!!!
I have both of them and i think the Nixdork switches are ok compare to their U4Ts. It's more like a gimmick imo...
The longer i use the U4Ts, the more i start to not like them as a stock switch. I've tried the Nixdork stock and they feel pretty good as in i didn't lube them and just use them.
Totally agree! Keeb wife said the lubed sounds way better LOL
@@MakerMods I used mine stock because i like louder clacks.
Boba U4T is the goal that Glorious Panda failed to achieve lol.
The stock typing test is silent?
So sorry about that, think it was recorded in stereo but it’s a phase issue. I’ll try to get an updated test uploaded!
@@MakerMods no worries, thank you
So you are reviewing this Nixdork switch instead of actual in-stock U4Ts. You should have made that clear in the title.
To be fair, they are essentially the same switch with the black boba bottoms :P